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>Previous
>>76408808

>TQ
You get the power to ban a single card but you have to unban 3 other cards in the process, do you do it? What do you ban/unban? (The artifact lands cycle count as a single unban)

>> No.76431777

>Ban
Companion mechanic
>Unban
Looting, Opal, Pod

>> No.76431798 [SPOILER] 
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I know this isn’t really the place for this, but I got bored at work and made a little custom card.

Would this be a balanced card? Or even good?

Please no bully

>> No.76431803
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>>76431720
I unban every card to get as many bans allowed, and then proceed to ban as many FIRE cards as I can, because nothing on the banlist can be worse than the nightmare of current modern

>> No.76431827

>>76431798
for modern ? no
I'd put in my cube though, it looks like a fun card, and works with artifact synergies as well

>> No.76431845

Ban urza,
Unban opal, splinter twin and faithless looting

>> No.76431865 [DELETED] 

All financeniggers deserve the rope. No exceptions.

>> No.76431878

>>76431845
Urza is not even relevant anymore
Amd Twin would go into Omnath Soup and break it

>> No.76431881

>>76431798
Treasure's more red than black.

>> No.76431892

>>76430072
>Swamp
>9th
Can't make this shit up.

>> No.76431896

>>76431720
Ban
Urza
Unban
Looting, Opal and Artifact Lands

Ban
Uro
Unban
Twin, Pod and Jitte

>> No.76431926

>>76431878
Justification is so that opal can be unbanned.

I just want affinity back, And to improve the other archetypes that suffer

I guess ban omnath to make playing 4 color not worth it

>> No.76431992

>>76431881
That’s fair, I think black definitely works as well though.

The flavor felt more sultai when i was creating it but honestly the original intention was that that the beast gets angrier and bigger the more of his treasure you stole and each time you do it he will fly after you. I think the angry aspect of it could definitely fit more into reds category and make him temur.

For some reason sultai makes more sense to me though

>> No.76432015

>>76431896
Anyone who wants Jitte unbanned, wherever he may be, should be executed

>> No.76432026

Remove companions
Remove planeswalkers
Remove fetchlands

I solved MTG!

>> No.76432062

>>76432015
fair enough, I change Jitte for Bridge then

>> No.76432082

>>76431992
Red would be more advantageous mechanically, since it gets a lot of artifact sacrifice synergies.

>> No.76432117

Lol Autumn likes to get buttfucked
Has he had his axe wound yet?

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>>76432117
DREAMBLADE DIED FOR THIS

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.76432413
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>>76432254
Actually looking it up this game seems awesome wtf why can't angels have guns in magic?

>> No.76432532

>>76431720
>TQ
>Ban
Uro
>Unban
Looting, Opal and Library in Legacy

>> No.76432907
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76432907

>buy scourges for $11.50
>they're $10 now
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.76432937

>Ban
Uro

>Unban
Splinter twin, artifact lands and the cloudpost land

>> No.76433019

>>76431720
>TQ
Ban: Uro, T3feri, Companion mechanic
Unban: Splinter Twin, Mox Opal, Faithless Looting

>> No.76433097

I just noticed every single deck i find fun is built around using tha graveyard in some manner.

>> No.76433334

>>76432907
>buying cards that is not on reserved list
You fucking IDIOT!

>> No.76433498

how long should you wait before asking where your order is? bought something from tcgplayer on november 22, shipped without tracking, still not here.
my black friday orders arrived strangely enough.

>> No.76433517

>>76433498
I give it 3 weeks. After 2 weeks it should be there. After 3, no excuse.

>> No.76433545

>>76433517
alright, well i'll wait another week and make it 4 cuz the holidays could've delayed it.

>> No.76433546

jitte costs four mana to do nothing the turn you pay it and could easily come off the list

the reason it was banned was because the text box really just says "you win combat forever" but combat is irrelevant in modern now

>> No.76433559

>>76431798
Absolutely no reason for the hoard counters to not be +1/+1 counters. Don't mix counters, especially when they do the same thing. It doesn't like you saccing multiple permanents per turn, which is some real anti-synergy with its abilities. If you want it to like hoarding, give it a payoff for controlling a bunch of tokens. Your templating is a bit off: "Hoard Counter" instead of "hoard counter," "Flying" instead of "flying," not mentioning "from ~" after the "Remove 2 Hoard Counters" in the ability cost, and not separating the mana symbols and tap symbols with commas. It's also very color-intensive for what it does. Base rate it's 4 mana for a 4/3 with abilities that don't do anything until the turn after, and after the fact it has to tap to create its food. If you want to work on it more, try honing the design to fit a very concrete and simple idea. How would you represent a greedy creature that builds a big hoard? Maybe it trades tokens for other people's stuff or gets bigger based on how large its hoard is.

>> No.76433569

>>76433545
No, if I were you I'd just ask where my shit is. Even accounting for the holidays it should be there and it's halfway through December. If you wait any longer, and they ship out a replacement, it'll get held back even more due to more holidays.

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Guess his birthday
12/12

>> No.76433810

>>76433559
So formatting aside, my thought process was that he is collecting his horde and whenever a piece of his horde gets destroyed (sacking a permanent),
He gets angry/reckless hence +2/-2, it’s meant to be a drawback that is overcome the longer you have him out.

I think you’re right that it could just be +1/+1 counters, I’m just having a hard time justifying the ability happening at the same time as it getting +2/-2 because that seems crowded...

I just want some way to delay the counter or have it be triggered by something else

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oh no bros... our fate has already been set in stone

>> No.76433884

>>76431798
How do I get a job where I can make custom MTG cards? My current job I am so busy supporting 20 people on a production floor I don't have time for that anymore. I can't even go to lunch break without some homo harassing me. I want to quit but I don't want to end up in an even worse job. But I miss doing dumb shit at work.

>> No.76433927

>>76431798
Pretty cool would play in draft

>> No.76433956

>>76432907
>buying singles in standard that could be reprinted in a challenger deck
yikes

>> No.76433963

>>76433884
Night shift IT work lol

>> No.76434098

>>76433810
>because that seems crowded
You're giving it two extra lines at the end. Just replacing "hoard" with "+1/+1" in the first ability would cut out the middleman.
>So formatting aside, my thought process was that he is collecting his horde and whenever a piece of his horde gets destroyed (sacking a permanent),
Alright, so he hates getting his hoard destroyed which is a good thing to start with. +2/-2 doesn't really convey "angry" to me, really. Maybe you could shift the card to being RUG like that other anon said and make it deal damage to everything when you sacrifice a token and also remove the hoard or +1/+1 counter thing. That way, you have a useful and powerful effect that still must be managed lest you kill it. It could also fight things, make everyone sacrifice a nontoken (could be jund), or something else.

If you want to keep the +x/-x and counters, you could make the +1/+1 counters a delayed trigger or something, but that could be clunky. I do see that you have to do the sacrificing over multiple turns to get the first counters in the current design, but it's unintuitive and a bit clunky as-is.

Minor thing and I get that you were fucking around at work, but cardsmith isn't very good. mtg.design is the superior browser-based platform and Magic Set Editor is a downloaded program that is the best to use. Also, if you want to get more into designing custom cards, unearth a /ccg/ thread from the archive and check out the OP for some resources (MaRo has good custom card advice despite being a faggot).

>>76433869
Break into the WotC printing complex and reveal it for us, anon.

>> No.76434129

Is Anusbreacher legit?
Legacy/Vintage players seem to be testing it heavily.

>> No.76434321
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Hey anon, remember when I was a top 1 drop in Legacy?

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>>76434321
Don't make me feel old anon... yes i remember days of mongoose.

>> No.76434386

>>76431720
When did you guys go back to having normal OPs instead of them just being moaning about WotC?

>> No.76434430

>>76432117
wat

>> No.76434445

>>76431720
>You get the power to ban a single card but you have to unban 3 other cards in the process, do you do it? What do you ban/unban?
Unban: Twin, Bridge from Below, Punishing Fire
Ban: Uro

>> No.76434458

Was there a leak from kaldheim of a squirrel that sacrificed lands?

>> No.76434465

>>76431798
make its abilities cost b, 1g and 2u, maybe something with tapping, the card really wants to attack. or give it more defencive stats.
but i'm talking about playability.
i see that you've tried making a weird card and you've succeeded
i really like it

>> No.76434527

>Try brewing a deck for Pioneer
>Literally cannot pack enough removal to wade off the dozens of busted value threats every deck is packing
It's kind of insane how WotC managed to get the game in this state, so quickly. WAR onward really fucked everything up.

>> No.76434586

>>76431720
TQ: Unban: Splinter Twin, Mox Opal, Faithless Looting
This is pretty obviously correct. Banning just one card is harder. I'd go with te3eri. Fuck that card.

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>>76434465
>>76434098

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>>76434357
that's nothing anon. Remember me? I was the top finisher with goose before that Reliquary hussy came. Who uses me now?

>> No.76434658

>>76434591
Interesting. I'd say it's more of a rare than a mythic, but that's really cool now. I like that building the hoard makes it stronger now, you could even put that into the token generation ability in order to save some space and complexity (mana, T: Create token, put a +1/+1 counter on ~). I can zap it onto an MSE card if you want (and if you provide the art).

>>76434627
Was that thing used after Tarmogoyf? Trample and higher ceiling do seem appealing, but the easier mana also seems nice.

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>>76434658
nah, the odyssey rarity trio quietly went away. Goose was the last to go, when Angler came I think.

Side note: this is how you do power levels across different rarities. Note that all 3 of those were playable

>> No.76434690

>>76434591
this ability just reads "create a clue"

>> No.76434736

>>76434627
I certainly remember werebear and mongoose. Don't really recall Terra as a finisher. Guess my mind is going.

>> No.76434787

>>76434736
it wasn't that popular but it saw some play
bear and goose saw more of course, but they were also cheaper $/mana wise, so that's a given

>> No.76434837
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I fucking love this deck so much holy shit.
People just assume I'm playing normal Storm so they try to hate on my graveyard but it literally does nothing to disrupt my combo.
Not to mention that hardcasting my Dragons is a feasible wincon if things get awkward, thank good I took interest in building Ad Nauseam, Lotus Bloom decks are fun as hell.

>>76434527
I've only came up with 4 Pioneer brews so far:
- Goblins
- Big Red
- PO Emry Artifacts with Resevoir as my wincon
- UG Eldrazi Stompy
Two of these decks try to go over whatever my opponent is doing and the other two are aggro decks.
I have not bothered with trying to control or grind my opponents unless there's a combo involved, you just can't expect to do it against 4c piles, maybe things will change after they ban Uro/Omnath.

>> No.76434874

>>76434837
Midrange K.Command decks are my favorite, and they feel completely unplayable across all formats right now.

>> No.76435028

>>76434874
>Midrange K.Command decks are my favorite
That's rough to hear, does Rakdos Pyro do anything for you? It's obviously not a midrange deck but it's probably the best K. Command deck in the format (although I would say RB in general has a lot of unexplored territory, I've seen some madlads trying to port Hollow One over)

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZnIHM2dQvA

>> No.76435145

>>76433963
How did you get it? What degree / certification?

>> No.76435168

>>76435126
jund can't abuse uro
jund can't abuse omnath
jund can't abuse field of the dead
jund can't even abuse blood moon to prey on these decks

it's so sad

>> No.76435196

>>76434874
Come play traditional please. I did really well in a tournament with Mardu Pyro, third overall in a ten-match round-robin deal. Here are my lists:

https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/faithless-pyromancer-1/ - what I ran in the tournament
https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/mardu-pyro-revised-traditional/?cb=1607827645 - revision after the tournament

Regisaurs were spice meant as tech for the E-Tron matchup, didn't end up working out that well. Arcanist just sort of underperformed in general, so I went with Angler. While it does compete with flashback spells, Reveler, and Cling, it has merit in being fat and coming down pretty easily, but I can see it being cut for probably 1x Cling, 1x something else. The EE in the first list were a huge mistake and due to me not having a good idea on what to bring. Arcanist is in the sideboard for removal-light matchups (it did excellently against merfolk, the tournament winner that went 8-2).

>> No.76435207

>>76435126

AAAAAAAA

>> No.76435235

>>76431720
unban my boy birthing pod

>> No.76435256

guys stop making fun of jund

>> No.76435258

>>76435168
Rakdos Midrange and Gruul Midrange outperform Jund
its amazing
its less than the sum of its parts

>> No.76435293

most jund players are dumber than burn players

probably even dumber than bogles players

>> No.76435541

>>76435028
I really don't like Rakdos Pyro, but I think my main problem is I'm a Grixisfag at heart, and that Shard is obviously hurting everywhere that isn't Vintage or Commander at this point.

>> No.76435569

Anyone have a gallery of the niambi edits? I can't find the monkey cage one.

>> No.76435577

Imagine liking Shitxis

>> No.76435708

>>76435196
I like BUG Delver but my favorite deck was Twin. Convince me to play Traditional and suggest me a deck.

>> No.76435709

>>76435577
Not sure why this is as common of a meme, but if people keep overtly shitting on it, maybe Grixis will get the UG treatment someday.

>> No.76435798

>>76435709
Grixis fucking sucks and it’s complete shit, it’s never going to be good
I hope it ever becomes good

>> No.76435968

>>76435709
Shitxis is literally a world that runs on inhaling braps

>> No.76436752

>>76435708
Tell me what you like about them. A truth about Traditional is that the small playerbase creates an environment where hard iteration takes a lot of time. There are very good decks because a lot of people in the format are good brewers and ideas are shared, but you can get away with jank if you're smart about it.

>> No.76436789

I like Jund. Fuck you faggots.

>> No.76436814

>>76436789
>paying all that money
>still losing
Topkek

>> No.76436816

>>76436789
I find it quite odd to be so proud of being a cuckold.

>> No.76436830

>>76436789
Jund stinks
Junk forever

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I used to have an idea for a card that would be the Red Dark Confidant.
Now in the age of FIRE, this card would have to either have Haste and be a 2/2, or be a 1-drop 1/2, just to keep up.

>> No.76437029

>>76431720

>ban
uro
>unban
opal, bridge from below, faithless looting

>> No.76437138

>>76437029
correct answer

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>make shit meme deck by /mtg/ standards
>completely wipe the floor with my play group
>lgs doesnt host any new events and my play group doesnt like my deck and think its cheap

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I had this idea for a silver-border Un-set card
Thoughts?

>> No.76437208

>>76437151
well, post the decklist fag

>> No.76437219

>>76437169

It’s pretty strong.

>> No.76437227

>>76437208
https://tappedout.net/mtg-deckpaste/boros-warrior-tribal-2/

>> No.76437240

>>76437169
Can integrate custom card general into /edhg/ instead of /mmg/?

>> No.76437262

>>76437227
honestly, I'm not surprised, this is basically standard hammer time
what kind of decks were they playing?

>> No.76437263

>>76437240
This.

>> No.76437275

>>76437262
one was running a green white god/hero themed deck and was only ever able to get like 2 creatures out before I bop'd him to death

the other was running a nightmare/horror themed deck

>> No.76437282

>>76437169

1-3: draw one, nice card
4-5: draw two, great card
6: draw 3, amazing card

it's strong and could be good as 1-2x

>> No.76437291

>>76437275
were their curves just too high or what? yours is pretty low

>> No.76437316

>>76437291
I think so?
the green/white guy would have like 5-6 lands out and just not be able to play anything and the one time his deck got rolling I already had a goblin fireblade with maul and 2 relic axes smacking him for 7 every turn

the nightmare/horror guy I just straight up outmaneuvered with my cards since hallowblade had indestructible and I had my maul giving the important smackers flying

>> No.76437329

>>76437282
Wouldn’t a 1 make you draw zero?
Divide by two, round down makes 0.5=0.

>> No.76437359

>>76437282
wouldn't it be
1: draw 0 cards
2, 3: draw 1 card
4, 5: draw 2 cards
6: draw 3 cards

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dont mind me just posting the best non basic land art

>> No.76437410

>>76437371
is this a joke?

>> No.76437416

>>76437329
>>76437359

i'm drunk but yeah it would be 0 cards at 1

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>>76437371

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>>76437423

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>>76437433

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>>76437442

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>>76437461

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>>76437514

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>>76437371

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>> No.76437670

>>76437628

why do i love old magic so much? this land, this art, this ability, so fucking awesome compared to fire garbage.

>> No.76437672

>>76437670
I think its a mix of nostalgia and it being decent art

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>>76437670

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>>76437371
I like this one because it's where my wife was made! Also has unironically fairly nice art by John Avon.

>> No.76437702

>>76437672

it's got unique interactions if the right cards come around so it's such an interesting card. also mostly nostalgia.

>> No.76437737

>lgs thats 30mins away is 10x better than the lgs thats 5mins away
fucking whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy?

>> No.76437906

>>76437737
God’s love always comes at a cost

>> No.76438013

Fuck, I really like some of the alt arts in the secret layers right now, but I don't wanna dump 150$ into a WotC scam tactic right now, and my country doesn't allow to import more than 3 items of the same category at once anyways, how expensive will these be in the secondary market?

>> No.76438221
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>>76437737
Imaging having two lgs's in your neighbourhood

>> No.76438445

>>76438221
I have 3 within an 8 mile radius.

And it doesn't matter because 'rona.

>> No.76438558

>>76437737

>lgs thats 30mins away is 10x better than the lgs thats 5mins away

exact same issue with mine
though it's fairly moot now since i doubt either will survive another 6 months

>> No.76438573

>>76438558
>the one 30mins away said he wont close until someone forces him to
>the one 5 mins away cucked immediately and is suffering
its a weird kinda feel

>> No.76438594

>TQ
Ban Lightning Bolt to unban Oko, Once Upon A Time, and Hogaak
Some people just want to watch the world burn

>> No.76438603

>>76437240
God no.

>> No.76438610 [DELETED] 

>>76438221
I'll take the awkward boomers over niggers hootin' an' lootin' anyday.

>> No.76438681 [SPOILER] 
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Would this custom card be reasonable as a pushed mythic or is it underwhelming

Wanted it to have pseudo indestructible, was thinking about putting a “Jordyn loses hexproof until end of turn” After her tap ability is used

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Black bordered reddit&normie cards.
Soon.
>friendly, daily and threadly reminder that wotc is de facto printing an illegal cryptocurrency where prices are kept artificially inflated due to artificial scarcity and insider trading that gets distributed through lottery tickets and lootboxes and that they spend, all costs included, 2 cents per card to print them

>> No.76438954

>>76434837
How does your big red list look like? Planning on building something in that archetype but i'm not very familiar with the cardpool in pioneer.

>> No.76439173

>>76438775
>Soon
The fuck
We had MUH HECKIN DOGGERINO Secret Lair and that one with slimes where all the cards looked like the same card

>> No.76439357

>>76439173
You know it's coming.
It's not a matter of IF, it's a matter of WHEN.

>> No.76439363

>>76439357
Dude we already have Rick Grimes as a meta card in Legacy

>> No.76439380

>>76439363
It's only the beginning.
Also lmao @ all those gaslighting faggots that said twd secret liar wouldn't become meta.
Not only noobs, but also disingenuous pieces of shit.
lol

>> No.76439838

I think they are going to have to ban Embercleave in Standard because it's become literally impossible to play around

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>>76438954
there are some obvious updates like finding space for a playset of Bonecrusher Giants, getting more Chandra, Torche of Defiance in the maindeck and a couple of Chandra, Awakened Inferno in the sideboard, I just don't have the cash on me right now.
Leyline Tyrant is an absolute beast in this deck, being able to save up all of the excess mana from Nykthos is so fucking good

>>76439838
I played Mono White Control in Standard a few days ago and Embercleave/Henge were really easy to deal with, I feel like if anything ever gets banned it probably ends up being something from Rogues rather than G/RGx piles, but Standard is in a fine place right now for me, a little boring but balanced.

>> No.76440052

>>76440042
It's "balanced" in a terrible way

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>>76437371
>>76437423
>>76437690
Either this, Cabal Coffers, Wasteland by Belledin, Oboro, Misty Rainforest by Yee, original Depths.
I can't choose.
>>76437628
This is nice.

>> No.76440607

>MTGO account deactivated for no reason after making a purchase
Why is this client so shit?

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>>76437371
I disagree. Salt Flats would also be on my short list.

>> No.76440735

I'm watching the ZNR championship stream as background noise and they sometimes cut to someone on the design/play design team during ad-breaks to talk about the thought process behind certain cards.

Holy fuck play design is incompetent and I don't know why you would showcase them since it only makes them look stupider.

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>>76440735
>play design is incompetent
hurrrr dee duuurrr derp derp dooo hurr herp

>> No.76440757
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>>76440607
This has upset me so much, I just want to play some magic with friends while I’m working abroad and everyone back home has lockdowns

>> No.76440894

remember when that one play design shitlicker posted an article on the magic site talking about how proud he was that he added the je ne sais quoi to thassa's oracle and made it win the game because just scrying didn't feel rare enough? this was something he was so proud of that it deserved its own article where he had to share his genius with everyone.
my ass bleeds to this day

>> No.76441078

>>76440894
>Lets give it a trigger that wins the game if your deck is empty
>There is absolutely zero way this could possibly be abused
>Nothing will go wrong
>Everything will be fine
>Isn't it impossible to flip your deck into your graveyard in the first place?
I love how the deck that broke Legacy didn't even use Grave-Troll to flip its deck into the bin. But then again Underworld Breach was its own kettle of fucked up fish. I don't keep up with Legacy Dredge but it wouldn't surprise me in the least if Manaless Dredge used Thassa's Oracle as a win condition. Just Dread Return a Balustrade Spy, Dread Return an Oracle, win. They need 3 counterspells to stop it.

>> No.76441329

>>76434684
>Goose was the last to go, when Angler came I think.
Mongoose was sometimes played in RUG but sometimes Young Pyromancer or TNN went in over it. Really green was primarily for Tarmogoyf

>> No.76441356

>>76440752
>>76440894
The part that pissed me off was when Melissa Del Toro explained how originally Felidar Retreat just put +1/+1 counters on creatures but then they decided to give it an extra mode so it wouldn't be bad on an empty board. It's like they don't understand that sometimes a strong card being situationaly bad is actually good for the game. 4cmc "Put a +1/+1 counter on all of your creatures once a turn" is already a perfectly fine card. "Make a 2/2 once a turn" for 4cmc is also completely ridiculous compared to most other token makers (Outlaw's Merriment is maybe the best comparison but it costs 1MMN which is way harder to splash than the 3M of Retreat).

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>>76440894
Them not seeing a problem with "2 mana win the game" just baffles me. Not even a hard requirement, and can't be stopped by anything other than a counterspell

>> No.76441606

>>76440752
shark typhoon is just fine in modern innit

>> No.76441626

>>76441078
How do you dread return twice? Don't you only have 4 Narcomoeba and the Ballustrade spy?

>> No.76441742

>>76441626
Narcomoeba, Bridge from Below (Cabal Therapy functions as a sac outlet), Ichorid (also triggers Bridge from Below), Nether Shadow.

That's 12 dudes you can get out for free. BfB not only replaces them but in multiples actually gives you MORE creatures. Doing 4 Dread Returns isn't particularly difficult if you have access to them.

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>>76441356
>Once
Lmao, you really believe I land once a turn?

>> No.76442036

>>76441742
Ah I forgot about Ichorid and Nether Shadow. BFB was something I considered but I guess I misremembered how it worked. I see now, thank you for the clarification.

>> No.76442457

Should I sell my Titanias and Sylvan safekeepers?

>> No.76442547

>>76442457
Sell everything you own relating to Magic.

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WW3 JUST STARTED THIS IS NOT A DRILL

50.000 Chinese soldiers were bombed in underground tunnels in Maine

REPEAT WW3 JUT STARTED

>> No.76442902 [DELETED] 

>>76442823
I always knew that when WW3 would start it would be announced on /mmg/

>> No.76442920 [DELETED] 

>>76442902
Watching out for my cardboard brothers.

>> No.76442923 [DELETED] 

>>76442823
you had my hopes up for a second

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>>76431720
Yugioh player here, I've been thinking of buying a bunch of secret lair Bob Ross boxes before the sale ends and then sit on them for a year or two before selling them. Is this a smart idea? Secret lair cards seem to almost always appreciate in value. But people have complained a lot about the quality of the cards and especially the foils which has me concerned.

>> No.76443124

>>76442973
Isn't it funny how Bob Ross could spit out a painting in about 40 minutes that blows away the CG shit that Wizards commissions nowadays. Those two new Swamp arts are absolutely gorgeous, with the two Forests not far behind, and I'm a guy who doesn't like Forest artwork ever.

>> No.76443201

>>76442973
Nice bait here is a (you)

>> No.76443337

>>76442973
If you want to keep the cards in a good shape for a long period of time open the boxes then put some sodium chloride inside to remove humidity so they don't end up like pringles. That's only true for cards printed on American printers the European are one are fine. Kindly note that this is also not a problem with non-foil cards.

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>>76442973

>> No.76443366

>>76443124
Digital art is a fucking joke with no soul, so it's not really surprising.

>> No.76443447

>>76433498
I had some foils show up three or four weeks late. The guy refunded me and told me to keep the cards if they show up. Everything’s fucked with the mail.

I sent some stuff out on eBay, on the 7th, and it hasn’t even left my PO yet.

>> No.76443465

>>76442547
why?

>> No.76444412

>>76443465
Because the game is shit.

>> No.76444680

Thinking about buying 40k gems on mtga lads. Should I do it?

>> No.76444797

>>76444680
there's no good formats on mtga so I'd say no

>> No.76444852

>>76444797
But I'm a loser neet. No friends no gf. And I'm bored. mtga is all I have. mtgo looks fun to try but it's 200 for the burn deck I wanted to play

>> No.76445041

>>76444797
The arena cube is passable, but you can play it with the f2p currency anyway.

>> No.76445183

Do you guys know a good place to discuss MTG?

>> No.76445200

>>76444680
Just grind gold coins and play quick drafts to get gems, then repeat ad infinitum

>> No.76445208

>>76445183
gayrobot and gayrobot discords
that's unironically where the mtg discussion happens now

>> No.76445241

>>76445183
Your local game store

>> No.76445499

>>76444852
>mtgo looks fun to try but it's 200 for the burn deck I wanted to play
that's because you're looking at a fully optimized burn list with all the fetches
you can make a reasonable burn list on mtgo for less than 60 bucks

you can make good budget decks with even less than that, you just gotta look them up

>> No.76445512

>>76445499
$60 for a single deck of cards on an online platform? And not even a remotely fun deck, it's a literal flowchart. You could buy like 2-3 good video games for that money.

>> No.76445544

>>76434129

>Is Anusbreacher legit?

both hullbreacher and opposition agent are retarded as fuck and will be permanent legacy staples going forward unless they are banned.
after ghoulish spirit guide in mh2, opposition agent is gonna be even better

>> No.76445566

>>76445544
We're not getting a black spirit guide. Rituals are pretty much pure red now.

>> No.76445685

>>76445544
it's so sad how not even a few months ago legacy players were dunking on modern saying that legacy was and always would be the best format
look at it now, format is basically unbearable and will probably end up the worst of all

>> No.76446051

>>76445685
Got any details? Geier Reach Sanitarium springs to mind but I assume Legacy has much better. Jace Beleren?

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>>76445685
>>76446051
Gonna assume this is in the 75.

>> No.76446109

>>76445512
>$60 for a single deck of cards on an online platform?
LESS than 60 bucks, for a good eternal list

>And not even a remotely fun deck, it's a literal flowchart.
then why did you want to buy the 200 version in the first place? if you don't like burn, there are other options for even cheaper, but I need a goddamn starting point to help you or you actually don't want to play modern and just want to complain about the prices?

>You could buy like 2-3 good video games for that money.
if you want to do that you can go right ahead, the money is yours
I'm only having this discussion because I assume you'd prefer to use your money on playing MTG rather than something else, otherwise, why are you even here?

>> No.76446128

>>76446109
I wasn't that guy. I come here to shitpost and wallow in the malaise.

>> No.76446136

>>76446109
Why don't you buy Bogles, that has some dignity

>> No.76446148

>>76446074
>My EDH deck I've been running for years is becoming a Legacy staple
Hilarious how this game is turning.

>> No.76446157

>>76446148
Cephalid Coliseum has been a Dredge staple for years for pretty obvious reasons.

>> No.76446228

So I decided to give proxying a try and its honestly pretty good but the paper quality is lacking since Im just using normal printer paper what paper do you guys use?

>> No.76446232

>>76446228
Just get thicker paper, retard.

>> No.76446493

>>76446228
thick printing paper is pretty easy to get, otherwise you can just insert thin prints into sleeved cards to get better proxies with only cheap paper

>> No.76447782

>>76446109
I'm the burn anon. I'm honestly not sure what I want to play. In historic I like to play mono red aggro and goblins. In standard (which is absolute shit right now) I really like mono black sacrifice. And thank you for the help anon :3

>> No.76447786

>>76447782
Try playing Netrunner for a while instead, it's free on jinteki.net

>> No.76447800

>>76445685
Former legacy player here, my last bit of love for the game died after they said the Walking Dead cards would be legacy legal. I will freely admit Modern is the superior eternal format now (or Pauper).

I just can't see myself playing any more magic ever again, though.

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>>76447782
>I'm honestly not sure what I want to play. In historic I like to play mono red aggro and goblins.
so you like red aggro and goblins? that translates well into 8-whack, your biggest worry are what hands to keep because the deck essentially plays itself
I made a budget version just for you and it costs 5 bucks on GoatBots, you just need to make your account pay 10 bucks to upgrade it so you can trade with people and there you go you're playing Modern with a deck that can win a game, it's also very easy to upgrade if you feel like dumping more money into it right away

>And thank you for the help anon :3
no problem, no one was there to help me when I wanted to go from Arena to Magic Online, I'm glad I can help others

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just sold a playset of lotus field on mtgO for a nice x3 tix profit.

any other anons know this feel? or have any hidden frog-specs that might repeat this feeling in the near future?

>> No.76448785

>>76448753
Why'd it do that?

>> No.76448801

>>76448753
>any other anons know this feel?
I sold a playset of the Great Henge for x3 the profit a couple of months ago as well, I'm surprised anyone here likes to dabble in the MTGO finance world
my latest spec was Woe Strider but I'm afraid it might have been a dud, I was seriously expecting Sacrificing decks to show up in Standard and drive up the prices

>> No.76448834

>>76448753
I am banking on archpriest of iona, nimble pathfinder and linvala spiking once the d&d set releases, they are dirt cheap so even if it doesn't pay off i'm not losing much.

>> No.76448857

>>76448834
those are some good specs anon

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>>76448452
This deck looks sweet anon. Aggro goblins is my kind of deck. I was a little on the fence earlier, but I'm really excited to try out mtgo now. Thank you again anon. I really appreciate it :D

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>>76448753
I sold a foiled ancestral recall on mtgo for 250 bucks/tickets, to some sucker. Got it in a sealed pool. It's 6 tickets now. kek

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>>76448861
and on the off chance you think I'm sugar coating how viable the deck is, here's me beating 3 random dudes on the practice tournament lobby (think the unranked play queue from Arena but withou the matchmaking)
2 of them seemed to be brews/budget decks as well, Inverter and GW Enchantments but I took a game from one of the most popular decks at the moment: Obosh Prowess.
I can't guarantee that you'll be 5-0ing every league you feel ike playing with the list I gave you but it's good enough to have a good time and learn the format by experiencing it yourself

>Thank you again anon. I really appreciate it :D
again, it's my pleasure but if you really want to thank me, tell whatever friends you have on Arena to give Modern a try if they ever feel like it, I'd be delighted to help them find budget decks too

>> No.76449924

I thought I'd accepted Legacy's death, but there's still some small glimmer of false hope within me each Monday that we'll see a B&R with Oko, Astrolabe, Veil, and DHA. I wish this game would just fully die so that I could achieve inner peace

>> No.76449982

>>76449924
>DHA
What's this? I want top back most of all. And gush in pauper, so that tribe becomes playable again. That deck sure was fun.

>> No.76449991

>>76449924
whens the next b&r supposed to be?

>> No.76450015
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I wanna get some fun budget legacy decks so that I can just pull out of a box and use to get new players into the game I also don't wanna just buy those battle deck things from CardKingdom since they're just slightly better intro decks from what I can find online. I want at least 5 decks, with each one having a focus on one of the five colors (They don't have to be monocolor,). So far I'm thinking the following decks

>This Mono-W Knights decklist with the Exemplars subbed out for that WWW Lord from Dominaria https://www.mtggoldfish.com
/deck/489019#paper
>This Twisted Image deck https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/489128#paper
>This Mono-B Control list https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/490487#paper
>Mono-R Spellslinger Burn (Taking my pauper deck and just beefing it up with Eidolons and some other stuff)
>This budget Mono-G Tron list https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/489778#paper

Do you play any fun Modern/Legacy decks that run roughly in the $100 range?

>> No.76450066
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Let's complete the cycle of bullshit flash creatures! FIRE it up!

>> No.76450071

>>76449982
Dreadhorde Arcanist. Not as egregious as the other cards, but still a ridiculously good value engine in a format with so many 1-mana cantrips. Like Dark Confidant with added card selection and no life loss. Agreed that Top has no place being banned.

>>76449991
They're not scheduled anymore, since Wizards hates giving away any information about the game these days. It could be tomorrow, or it could be two years from now

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>>76450066
Should say "If a source would deal damage..." to fit better wording. My bad.

>> No.76450991

>>76449982
I'd rather blue have access to gush rather than letting it have that fucking blue monarch enchantment.

>> No.76451105

inb4 minecraft secret lair lands

>> No.76451442 [DELETED] 
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>wake up
>magic still sucks
This is your future, forever.
Fall to your knees and despair.

>> No.76451472

>>76451442
Kill me, Lurrus.

>> No.76451516

Is it possible to return secret lairs? I bought the Thalia secret lair because I wanted it and still somehow had faith but I want my money back from wotc. Is there a way to return it so wotc doesn't keep my money?

>> No.76451526

>>76451442
At least I'm not a furry. Yiff in hell.

>> No.76451533

>>76451526
Thanks to FIRE, we are all yiffing in hell.

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>>76451516
A refund...? A refund?! Someone, help! This anti-semite is trying to shoah me! He's a Nazi!

>> No.76451837

How would you guys suggest selling out of high dollar stuff? Tabernacles, dual lands, mox diamonds etc.

>> No.76451863

>>76451837
Buy high
Sell low

>> No.76451866

>>76451863
I mean like what medium is best to use? Who takes the smallest cut?

>> No.76451879

>>76451837
Walk around town with a briefcase handcuffed to your arm and tell people you have "the goods"

>> No.76451894

>>76451837

sell on here and suck my cock

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>>76451866
>I mean like what medium is best to use?
BillyWitchDoctor.com

>> No.76452145

>>76451442
Kill me, Lurrus

>> No.76452161

>>76439838
I used to play rogues or yorion decks. Now I just play mono red for the wins

>> No.76452417

>>76441356
I think that's why magics design has been so bad lately. They literally refuse to print any cards that have any bad feels or downsides or play arounds. Because of that everything is just front loaded with power. You drop it into play and get everything immediately. It's why standard has been so fucked lately too. Why the fuck would you not just play the objectively best cards printed in the last few years?

>> No.76452456

>>76450071
Dreadhoarde arcanist isn't that bad in my opinion. He leads to slow and interactive games. He is easy to get rid of: bolt, push, counterspells, graveyard hate, chalice all deal with him.
The problem cards are usually cards that you can't remove with these.
For example, oko is a problem because he doesn't die to bolt, he is extremely good against a deck with chalice.
He basically needs to eat a counterspell or he wins.

>> No.76452469

>>76451837
Literally just go online and sell it for slightly less than what other people are offering and you get a quick sale.

>> No.76452526

>>76434837
Show me the emry deck.
Please.

>> No.76452879

>>76449924

ban delver and arcanist can stay
shit, ban delver and we can remove a handful of cards off the banlist

>> No.76453118

>>76452879
I strongly disagree.
Delver is basically an evolved counter burn deck and it is a good thing it is allowed to be played in legacy.
The problem is when delver decks can't stick with UR mana bases and need to splash for oko because they lose if they don't.

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>>76453118

stop fucking whining that delver has a single ~50-50 matchup against snowko and a retardedly high winrate vs. everything else

imagine the arrogance of the average delvernigger that has the gall to complain in spite of his deck being constantly top tier for a fucking decade

>> No.76453612

>Me when delver was released
This card is broken
>Me when in pauper there have been over 4 bans because delver centric decks raped everyone
Delver is the issue.
>Now in legacy delver is an issue
:)

Turns out an evasive 3/2 in the best color to combinate with others (U) that wants you to put very good cards in your deck (instants and sorcs) is way too strong for the game haha, but beaters cannot be broken UwU.

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>>76453612

>Now in legacy delver is an issue
>Now

nigga delver has been an issue for a long ass time and has directly led to many cards being banned for delver's sins

>> No.76453771

>>76453741
"Now" was me fucking with you anon, Delver is just a goyf 2.0: Electric fuckaloo.

>> No.76453843

>>76453741
>Treasure Cruise
>Dig Through Time
>Top
>DRS
>Probe
>Wrenn
>Underworld Breach
>Lurris/Zidra
Nah dude. Half of the cards in this ban list are unrelated to the delver deck, and the other half were powerful enough that even if delver was banned, they'd be played in similar decks.

>> No.76453889

>>76438681
This doesn't work in the way you want anon,

if the creature has more than 4 attack Jordyn dies and comes back and doesn't get the +1/+1 counter, state based actions are checked before the counter resolves

If you can fight and kill something with a 1/3 without it dying then yes you can reset persist

Using undying instead is probably better

>> No.76453995

>>76450066

Red


2R
Flash

Whenever another creature enters the battlefield, deal X damage to it and gain X red mana where X is equal to the creature's converted mana cost. If a creature dealt damage this way would die, exile it instead.

You don't lose unspent red mana as step's and phases end
3/2


Green

2G
Flash

If any non-creature spell would resolve, instead that card and search your library or graveyard for a creature with converted mana cost equal or less to X and put it on the battlefield, where X is that spell's converted mana cost
3/4 (lol)


White

2W
Flash

You, spells you control, and other creatures you control have protection from target player

3/2


What they'll actually print for White

2W
Lifelink Flash

Whenever you gain life, each player draws that many cards
1/4

>> No.76454049

>>76450066
>>76450172
>>76453995
Missing the point here, it should be an asymmetric "punish" effect that is really fucking stupid for no reason because muh EDH.

2G

Flash

Whenever a land etbs under the opponent control, if it isn't the first one of his turn, you may draw a card and put a land from your hand onto the battlefield tapped.

3/2

2R

Flash

If an opponent would cast a spell from anywhere but his hand, create a copy of it with any target.

3/2

2W

Flash.

If a creature ETB and it doesn't have a manacost, exile it instead. :^)

3/2

>> No.76454072

>>76434837
bruh, dragon storm? i fucking love me some dragon storm. what's your list look like?

>> No.76454157

>>76454049
>white is literally an overcosted sideshifted containment priest lmao

True about the asymmetry but the above designs are better more broad punishments similar to hullbreacher than the copying and ramp you suggest

>> No.76454185

>>76453843
Wren and Six was broken in Delver and only Delver.
It was a while ago but was Treasure Cruise as crazy in anything else? I remember it made UR the best deck hands down.

>> No.76454217

why do you retards want more creatures like hullbreacher?

>> No.76454223

>>76454157
Anon, the ramp "copy" also draws you cards.

The white one is powerful because it is a cheaper containment priest :^))))

>> No.76454235

>>76454185
Problem is that delver is just 'play the best low-cost cards +blue'. It doesn't matter what's printed and the only card they wouldn't change colors around would be a tri-color non-blue broken 3 drop.

>> No.76454239

>>76454185
TC is stupid silly in storm.
TC is stupid silly in everything.
You big dum dum.

>> No.76454258

>>76454235
They already run U primarily plus R/G as secondaries/tertiaries, there where even BUG delver builds with tombstalkers and confidants, Delver is just a tarmo, a stupid good clock.
And with how whack color correction is nowadays you can even make an argument for 4c delver decks.

>> No.76454262

>>76451863
Based r/mtgfinanceposter

>> No.76454361
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>>76452526
It's a work in progress but the main combo is getting a bunch of low cmc artifacts out with Inspiring Statuary and Aetherflux Resevoir, PO everything back to your hand for a single blue and cast everything all again. You can also win by just having a bunch of 1/1s from Sai/Saheeli.
Those 2x Paradox Engines are experimental, I saw a Historic deck making great use of them in a UG shell but I'm starting to think that it's a little win-more in my build because it doesn't do much if I don't have an Emry or a Inspiring Statuary + a way to keep drawing cards. I need to test it more.

>> No.76454370

>>76454239
I don't remember Storm even playing it, and I was at GP Treasure Cruise. Ad Nauseam/Past in Flames was the way to go and you don't want to 8 yourself or make RIP better. https://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/grand-prix-new-jersey-legacy-top-8-decklists

>> No.76454445

>>76454258
That's what I mean though. The list of cards banned would have still been majorly played whether or not delver was banned.

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>>76454235

>delver is just 'play the best low-cost cards +blue'

well then it sounds to me like it can afford to lose delver :^)
after all, delver is the worst 4-of in the deck, as delvernig-, i mean delverchads are fond of saying :^)

>> No.76454459

>>76454370
Not to mention, PiF was the deck's primary plan and every Cruise makes PiF and Cabal Ritual worse. Maybe things have changed with the switch to TES as the storm build of choice, Rite of Flame is probably better with it.

>> No.76454472
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>>76454072
>what's your list look like?
very budget, I don't have money for Pact of Negation and Gemstone Mine so instead I treat the sideboard like I'd do for a UR Control deck and use a shitty storage land for Dragons.
other than that, the list is pretty regular, I got seven 2-cmc rituals, a playset of prisms and lotus blooms, eight cantrips and a playset of Irencrag Feat (which makes the deck a lot smoother), oh and Grozoth as a singleton tutor for Dragonstorm.
my dragon package consists of
Dragonlord Dromoka to stop interaction
Karrthus and Dragonlord Kolaghan for haste
Thundermaw Hellkite to get rid of any possible blockers
Atarka for doublestrike
and Bogardan Hellkite for finishing potential

the only innovation I've brought to the archtype is using Valakut Awakening to shuffle back my dragons the turn before I go off and allowing me to dig deep for Rituals/Dragonstorm, it also lets me go down to 20 lands without much worry

>> No.76454493

>>76454445
>>76454258
>>76454449
Just ban Brainstorm. God I feel like I'm back in 2012.

>> No.76454497

>>76454493
>Buhn de consistency
Oh nononono here comes the memerange tard.

>> No.76454505

>>76454497
>implying the best midrange deck doesn't run Brainstorm/Ponder
Uro says hi.

>> No.76454578

As a lands player, I'd love to see blue get wrecked a little.

>> No.76454680

As an ex-legacy player I won't touch the format until Oko is gone

>> No.76454756

Cyberpunk Kamigawa soon

>> No.76454780

>>76454493
>just turn every format into standard
>all formats should be about turning creatures sideways
standardfags should stay in their containment format.

>> No.76454834

>>76454780
Non-blue creature decks have been relevant for exactly 4 months in the history of the format.
>the summer of Maverick
>the one month when Eldrazi Aggro was good

>> No.76454996

>>76454493

there is a confluence of various factors that make delver such a nigger deck
it's not the only nigger deck, but the other nigger decks are nigger decks for much the same reasons that have been oft-repeated in these very threads.

>> No.76455037

>>76454834
>Goblins have never been relevant in the history of the format

>> No.76455046

>>76454834

DnT was okay at various times, and is okay-ish right now

>> No.76455056

>>76455037
Goblins are really silly and cool though, it's different

>> No.76455180
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>>76455056
No, goblins suck. Fuck goblins.

>> No.76455513

>>76455180
tryhard meme

>> No.76455523

>>76455180
Goblins are based

>> No.76455525
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76455525

ikoria would have been cooler if the bonders were gross mutants, or if mutate was just adapt but add keywords instead of +1+1 counters, or if partner didnt essentially read "you may use this card if your deck synergizes with it", or if the mutating crystals actually had
ingame mechanics reflecting that they effect the monsters like this, or if the titanic monsters had titanic stats to them, or if they didnt spin the hunters that thin the populations of the bloodthirsty monsters that would want nothing more than to feast on the citizens hiding in the city as bad guys, or if they explained why the crystals everything on the plane except the humans for some unknown reason, or if the massive monsters that are depicted in the flavor text of land cards that they terraform the land my simply walking yet somehow not a single one has land destruction mechanics.

basically if ikoria was completely different it might be cool

>> No.76455535
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>>76455523
No they're a reddit tier meme tribe, fuck goblins.
>>76455513
No I just unironically hate goblins, they're fucking stupid.

>> No.76455591

>>76455535
Goblins are one of the og tribes. Humans are nu magic onions garbage. Kill yourself and your shit taste.

>> No.76455621

>>76455535
Zoomy please, you can drop the cringelarp

>> No.76455622

>>76455591
>Betraying your own species
Nope, humans have always been in magic too lol. I don't care if goblins are "the og", they're still shit reddit tier garbage.

>> No.76455624

>>76455591
Goblins are onions as fuck

>> No.76455632

>>76450066
W already had Flash hosers.

>> No.76455639
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>>76455621
No, I will never stop reminding goblinfags of their place. You have shit taste and love the actual reddit tribe, now kill yourself.

>> No.76455691

>he doesn't like based heckinfun goblinos
cringe desu

>> No.76455702
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76455702

>>76455639
New planeswalker! Please respect xir's pronouns.

>> No.76455795

>>76455702
CM: When we were developing Niko's origin, we wanted to tell a story that could express the shared experience of non-binary people without focusing on their gender identity. This was partially to ensure Niko was a character that all kinds of people could find relatable, but it was also to ensure that Niko's character was not entirely enveloped by this single aspect of their identity. Our approach was to try and create an origin with a familiar emotional core that we hoped would resonate with non-binary folks.

As a non-binary person, the story that resonated most strongly with me was one about questioning the accepted norms of your world: there is an idea that society accepts as fact, but the more you learn about it, the more you start to question it. Eventually, you decide to challenge the idea yourself and discover that you have the freedom to move beyond it. This was the journey that we wanted to set up for Niko.

We looked at several existing Magic Planes to be Niko's potential home, but in the end, Theros was a very natural fit. Theros is a Plane where the concepts of fate and destiny are very important, but we've seen through the events of our two visits to Theros that fate is not always set in stone and that the actions of individuals can change their destinies. It felt like the perfect place to tell a story about a person learning that "the way the world works" is not, in fact, the way the world works.

>> No.76455817

>>76455702
>>76455795
This can't be real what the fuck...

>> No.76455884

>>76455702
Ew. Gorss.
>>76455795
>From Theros
Eh. Guess that makes sense. Well if That shows up in Kaldheim the set, at least they're not trying to pass off tranny Vikings, it's just an alien visitor.

>> No.76455922 [DELETED] 

>>76455702
This is a very ugly woman.
>>76455795
I will gladly call you by whatever pronoun you want, but it doesn't change the fact that like 90%+ of the transitioners look ugly as fuck as either gender. The problem is they want people to call the beautiful and people won't do that. Most of these people are ugly and forever will be ugly just like more than half the world.

>> No.76455923
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76455923

>>76450172
Er... So +1 mana for flash? Yeah ok.

>> No.76456098

>>76455702
I dont want to see this shit.
There is literally nothing interesting about this character. A game about mages that traverse dimensions and we're just getting a bunch of regular people with different color skin and the same tumblr haircut. I'm seriously done with Magic, this is it for me. This game is honestly embarrassing now, I feel shame at being involved with it

>> No.76456117

>>76455923
ah yes, the words 'this turn' and 'target' have no meaning in this game. I forgot

>> No.76456131

>>76456098
Dude I haven't not felt shame about having played magic in years. If this is the tipping point for you, you have an incredibly high tolerance for shit.

>> No.76456169

>>76456131
I never felt shame, until now

>> No.76456253

>>76456169
I've felt shame about being associated with this game for years now, it's humiliating knowing that many people still think I love this game. I remember in high school I was obsessed with this game and liked to try and play it with friends and teach it to people, but now I regret all of it. I never thought wotc would make me regret and feel embarassed about beloved memories that used to make me happy.

>> No.76456290

>>76455702
Magic is dead, and xe have killed it.

>> No.76456445

>>76456253
For me the shame hit bigly with Ixalan, then Ikoria. A literal trannywalker though, this is the last straw

>> No.76456476

>>76431798
>Planeswalker disguised as a creature
I hate it

>> No.76456907

>>76455922
>half
Being uglier than half the world is average ugliness. These people are in the bottom 5%.

>> No.76456952

>>76456445
Ixalan was based. Pitates fighting dinosaurs is what this game should be. Fun. Not politics and gender validation.

>> No.76456982

>>76456952
>Not politics
>In the set about how colonialism bad filled with black and women characters
Ixalan was by far one of the most embarassing politically focused sets in recent magic, the only likable thing about that trash fire of a world were the vampires.

>> No.76457058

>>76456952
>ixalan wasn't political
shut up retard
They also somehow made pirates vs dinosaur vs vampires extremely uncool, set looked gay as fuck except the Legion

>> No.76457385

Qestion: Can i pick up the card "recurring nightmare" from the graveyard if i sac a creature? or i can only pick it up to my hand when it's in play?

>> No.76457644

Can't belive I spent so much time and money on this piece of shit game Tranny the Gathering

>> No.76457878

>>76456982

The Sun Empire were based off the Aztecs. They needed to die.

>> No.76457985

>>76457878
Well they won because colonialism bad mkay?

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76458094

>>76455702
>>76455795
This is fucking disgusting
>>76456098
I'm with you
>>76456131
I felt enough shame to stop consooming but now I'm done playing, lol.

>> No.76458304
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76458304

>KA: Obviously, as a non-binary person myself, it's incredibly meaningful to see a non-binary hero joining the Planeswalker ranks. I think the power of representation is easy to underestimate—after all, it's not like I can't relate to male or female characters—but there's something truly special about starting to see pieces of your own identity in the epic stories you love. Niko is not intended to be "the non-binary character"; they are a specific person with their own strengths, flaws, goals, and personality. In the long run, my hope is to represent as many different non-binary (and other) experiences as we can, to give as many fans as possible the chance to see themselves in our stories.
absolutely fucking state of this game

>> No.76458364

>>76458304
>we'll make the entire game trannies won't that be great it'll be the best ever we can have a dilation party omg that could be a new format!
Kill me, Lurrus.

>> No.76458372
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Nongender conforming individuals I am H Y P E D for Kaldheim!

This is our Norse barbarian world! Are you ready for one of these to be busted enough to warp modern around xem again?!?!

>> No.76458386

>>76458372
I can see some fag posting this on twitter unironically thinking it's a good meme.

>> No.76458456 [DELETED] 

Why do all these faggots need to see literally them in everything?

>> No.76458508

>>76458456
Narcissism is a huge part of most cultures now.

>> No.76458528

>>76458372
>This is our Norse barbarian world!
No, Keld was that. Back when Magic was good, or at the very least TOLERABLE.

Fuck people who even had a smidgin of hype for Kaladeim. Looking forward to Strixhaven though, with the Harry Potter crossover causes unimaginable buttpain among these idiots.

>> No.76458568 [DELETED] 

>>76458456
They are retarded and cannot identify with anyone who doesn’t match themselves exactly. Social justice types think representation actually matters for whatever reason; personalities and opinions don’t matter, just skin color, genitals, and genital preference.

>> No.76458573 [DELETED] 

>>76458372
>Sexy man only used for cheesecake
I thought sjws were supposed to be prosexuality?
Where are our sexy hot womyn? I even take sexy hot queer cheesecake at this point at least then I can pretend they're traps

>> No.76458588

>>76454505
Okay, you little transgender memerange faggot, if you ban consistency tools then you force decks to play cards that are good off the top and 99% of the time, I understand very well that a well dilate tranny like (you) loves that, you, the filthy, subhuman memerange brainlet, the he-she that plays jund, okopiles and similar dogshit faggot decks doesn't grasp why consistency tools are good or what synergy is, after all you just wanna windmill slam your tarmogoys, uros, okos, etc...

So how about you make that 41 turn into a 42?

>> No.76458593

>Vikings. Gods. Myths. Legends. So many beards. Kaldheim is coming to #*$&ing melt your mind hole.
> Kaldheim is nearly here, and with it comes some of the baddest, most unapologetically awesome characters, cards, and styles Magic has ever seen. To introduce you to this world, we're hosting Magic's Week of Metal all this week as a glimpse into the world that will debut January 7 to kick off preview season in full.
> We're also going to see and meet some pretty [email protected]$$ Planeswalkers. You'll be seeing them freaking everywhere.

Kill me Lurrus, spare me from this unending torment

>> No.76458619

>>76455702
Im ready for xir to be the next teferi funraveler.
>Xey're UW too
fuck

>> No.76458635

>>76458619
>Xey're UW too
Finally, a walker to signify the pure faggotry of control players.

>> No.76458638 [DELETED] 

Even reddit thinks this nonbinary fagwalker looks stupid. I hate this character. Xer story is awful too. Destined to become a great athlete and then just decided to be... nothing? To be a loser? And then became a PW for throwing a game?
What the fuck is even happening?

>> No.76458648

>The tranny card will be good and see play in multiple formats including cEDH, Legacy, and Modern.
I hope you like goatees.

>> No.76458793

>>76455922
the cyberpunk tranny add debacle was obvs because the tranny was not hideous

>> No.76458815

>>76455622
Humans were added in what, 10th edition? Either that or Innistrad.

>> No.76458826

>>76458648
What about goatse?

>> No.76458842

>>76455702
>>76455795
>>76458372
the absolute STATE of the game
And here I thought I would never be more glad than when I sold out of my stuff in february. Run while you still can, the shit is piling up so high that even the normos will start seeing it at this point

>> No.76458849

From now on I'm just going to play the Pokemon card game

>> No.76458852

>>76458648
imagine telling someone 15 years ago that players would drop for meta reasons like having to respect the card's pronouns

>> No.76458862
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>>76458593
Wait, this is real ? link ?
This makes me embarassed for whatever dreg of society wrote this

>> No.76458868

>>76458638
>Even reddit thinks this nonbinary fagwalker looks stupid.
I don't believe it. Give it a few hours. Twitter's reaction from what I've seen has been 100% positive.

>> No.76458888

>>76458849
I still can't help but wonder at how Japan and Japanese media seems completely immune to this shit.

>> No.76458909

>>76458862
WELCOME TO THE FACE-MELTING WORLD OF KALDHEIM

https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/welcome-face-melting-world-kaldheim-2020-12-14

>> No.76458944

>>76458862
https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/welcome-face-melting-world-kaldheim-2020-12-14

>> No.76458954

>>76458588
The state of legacy has more to do with fetchlands and Brainstorm/Ponder enabling perfect mana and allowing a minimum land count. Shit man any reasonable deck already plays cards that are either good topdecks or bused on turn 1 so I dunno what your point even is. Ripping a Delver is pretty not terrible in the late game because a 3/2 flyer can still close out a round.

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>>76458888
>Based quads
It's cause their companies aren't filled with faggots who need to pander to the loudest minority on twitter or be #canceled.

>> No.76458994

>>76458954
>The state of legacy has more to do with fetchlands and Brainstorm/Ponder enabling perfect mana and allowing a minimum land count
This is why legacy is (was) a good format. Consistent hands and no mulligan shitfests like memedern.

>> No.76458999

>>76458888
sadly those dubs were lost, because sony is all over that shit, mostly due to having their HQ on the east coast

>> No.76459012

>>76458999
>dubs
quads, fuck I'm tired

>> No.76459062

>>76458994
Honest question, what is your opinion on Arcumn's Astrolabe? The arguments for banning the card boil down to "it enables too much consistency," but these same arguments have been used to protect the cantrip/fetch package.

>> No.76459078

>>76458909
>>76458944
Jesus, the art is getting worse and worse. It's not like every single piece is bad, but there's just so much cgshit
Pic related is the only redeeming one I saw along with the header

>> No.76459092

>>76459062
Ruins the fundamentals of legacy by allowing you to play 4-5c without being punished by Wasteland and Blood moon/b2b. Hell it's so bad that the 5c astrolabe decks are the ones running b2b.

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>>76459078

>> No.76459140

>>76456952
Anime is fun. Dinos that aren't antropomorpized anime girls are pretty lame, desu.

>> No.76459164

when will wotc finally admit the land system is killing the game and have you keep lands in a side deck that you draw from every turn instead of everyone getting fucked over by pure luck
>inb4 just manaweave bro

>> No.76459207

>>76459092
>Hell it's so bad that the 5c astrolabe decks are the ones running b2b.
I'm not convinced that this is a bad thing. As someone who was attracted to Legacy by all the ridiculous bullshit that you can do I find that to be cool as hell.

>> No.76459211

>>76459164
fuck off retard, go back to heartstone

>> No.76459227

>>76459211
kill yourself fucking boomer faggot you're the reason the game has gone to shit, just slash your wrists and admit this ancient design is CANCER

>> No.76459240

>>76459164
Stop playing shit formats

>> No.76459251

>>76459240
>stop playing every 60 card format
???????

>> No.76459261

>>76459251
Just play a blue legacy deck

>> No.76459286

>>76458852
Imagine telling someone 15 years ago that crossdressers would be taken seriously.

>> No.76459289

>>76459261
based retard

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>>76458304
>In the long run, my hope is to represent as many different non-binary (and other) experiences as we can
>and other
Alright, I demand now cunny representation. And feet. Lots of feet.

>> No.76459366

>>76455702
can we talk about how fucking boring and safe this character is? Like, their big moment is.... purposefully losing an athletic competition. wowwwwwwwwwwww. And they want to fight on the side of *justice.* Slow down there Wizards, I'm getting fucking dizzy here. Really fucking compelling stuff.

>> No.76459376 [DELETED] 

>>76459331
You are less socially acceptable than a nonbinary tranny. How does this fact make you feel?

>> No.76459445 [DELETED] 

>>76459376
I still have my throbbing, veiny dick. So, I am happy. Thanks ^w^

>> No.76459469

Was Ashiok not enough?

>> No.76459582 [DELETED] 

>>76459469
Ashiok is a nightmare creature that kills people in their sleep with conjured nightmares. Ashiok isn't a nonbinary for political faggotry reasons, ashiok is a nonbinary because ashiok is not human, ashiok is a nightmare monster thing.

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>>76459469
Ashiok was a villain. Can't have a tranny bieng portrayed as villanous in -77 Cyberpunk USA.
Also, moar cunny is what this game needs.

>> No.76459665 [DELETED] 

>>76458638
>trannies are self-defeating losers that choose to be failures
It's like pottery.

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>/mmg/ - modern magic general

>> No.76459758 [DELETED] 

>>76459690
Fucking HOT

>> No.76459936 [DELETED] 

>>76459690
>tfw nobody to do this with

>> No.76460041

>>76459094
>good art
>almost guaranteed to be slapped on a shitty lifegain tapland
thanks i hate it

>> No.76460148

>>76460041
I fucking hope it's on a basic

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>>76455702
>sidecut
>nonbinary
>skinnyfat physique
>losing on purpose is biggest achievement
>blue walker

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>>76459261

>Just play a blue legacy deck

"why yes i exclusively play legacy high tide; how could you tell?"

>> No.76460565

>>76457385
No. Returning Recurring Nightmare to your hand is a "cost" you pay along with sacrificing a creature. A card will have to specifically say you can return it to your hand from the graveyard/exile/any other zone in order for it to do so.

>> No.76460634

>>76455795
>theros is a plane where fate is important
>...not!
nice, they destroyed one of the pillars of the world they had build just so they could shoehorn in their speshul tranny

>> No.76460723 [DELETED] 

enbies truscum walker

>> No.76460725

>>76460719
>>76460719
>>76460719

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