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>Current meta, complete with deck list
>Build and share casual decks

>Build and share cubes

>Search engines
>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
Your local chinaman (we're still researching this one)
Your printer + bulk cards + sleeves can also do the trick
>Library of in-demand alters


What cards do you own are not selling even though you already lowered the price?

>> No.76359735

Can we get through one thread without hate?

>> No.76359738

I am the hate

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>> No.76359766

no fuck you and everything you stand for. plus your favorite deck SUCKS

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>> No.76359811

this but unironically

>> No.76359815

You will pay X.

>> No.76359855
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I know we often talk about how affinity players were the most JUSTed, but what about DS players?
>TS from $40 down to $10
>IoK from $15 down to $2
>fatal push from $8 down to $1.50
>bauble from $50 down to $2
>DS from $15 down to $3
>kolaghan from $25 down to $5
>wraith from $10 down to $0.50
Just one of each copy would have costed you $163 in 2018.
Now it would cost you .... $24.


>> No.76359875

DS players can at least still play their deck, what can Affinity players play now? Whirza?

>> No.76359878

thotseize only ever went that high due to pioneer

>> No.76359881

>iok at 2$

>> No.76359906

>bauble from $50 down to $2
This one really hurts, i've 2 playsets laying around i got for memebrews, but i was too lazy to sell back then. I didn't spend $50 to get them since i purchased them after the IMA reprint, i believe i spent around 10 bux each. But still, that's like $65 down the drain.

>> No.76359918

it's just an unfair mechanic

>> No.76359920

>bought 2 playsets
>complaining about losing money
someone post the ugins

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>that's like $65 down the drain

>mfw it's what i lost on each noble from my playset i bought at the top to make humans

>> No.76359961

If you’re not playing against Uro/Omnath piles, is Modern still fun? I haven’t played since the pandemic started.

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It wasn't speculation, i needed a playset in two different decks and i love my decks to be completed, it trigger my autism to swap cards back and forth between my decks.

>> No.76360061

So a thread without trannies basically, i hope too anon, but don't expect too much on it

>> No.76360101

Tbf, the meta adapted to the simic tumor, i'd say that primetime is now more cancerous than strict uro-piles (even though some primetime piles plays uro to ramp).
The meta never have been worse than now, it's now 120% solitaire : you either play full blown aggro or full blown combo. Control decks have totally disappeared from the meta, hell, even midrange is a thing of the past. Both got ousted by the retarded valueboys. And since killing your opponent before he can use all the extra value he get from FIRE cards is the only option left, well, only combo and fast aggro can thrive.
So basically expect to see delightful matches such as oops all spell vs burn and rakdos DS vs amulet titan.

>> No.76360107

Fuck trannies
Fuck arena scrubs
Fuck discord shills
And fuck WOTC

>> No.76360146
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I have a challenge /mmg/
Try to find one (1) modern played-card printed before 2018 and who didn't lose value during the FIRE era. So edh crap not allowed!

>> No.76360167

This pic will never not make me sad. Poor guy, poor doggo..

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and you'll be happier than ever.

>> No.76360234

Blue Eyes White Dragon

>> No.76360236

Nice find indeed. I wonder why they didn't reprint it yet, while shizo got it's reprint.

>> No.76360259

Is it normal i can't think of any card fitting the description?

>> No.76360265

I used to think Prime Time was cool. Now I want it banned

>> No.76360296

Ban Uro, Omnath, and Primeval Titan.

>> No.76360302

All financeniggers deserve the rope. No exceptions.

>> No.76360308

They probably forgot that it existed, also it's a bit too complicated for their draft testers to understand.

>> No.76360309

>tfw you unironically regret UW control and Jund
how did jotc managed to fuck up everything this bad and this fast?

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I wrote myself a letter of execption saying i'm exempted from any rope session ever, and there is nothing you can do about it.

>> No.76360345

FIRE, obviously.
I think we peaked in Ikoria with companions, but Omnath makes me think that next year is going to be a complete shitshow as well.

>> No.76360363

Tireless Tracker
Angels grace
City of Brass

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>> No.76360498

based and Ron Paul pilled

>> No.76360540


look at her, look at the kid, look at the dog, you just know and the dog is like "dude you gotta pay attention"

>> No.76360574

>"please John, tell me you wont accept this abominable little turd at home"

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>> No.76360753

>make landbased cube
>Oboro is a fucking all star that slots into every deck
>moonfolk are based as fuck
>no mdfc because double faced cards are too annoying to deal with

>> No.76360807

That sounds awful.

>> No.76361043

Wooded Foothills has stayed pretty stable.

>> No.76361196


spoiler alert: she fucks the dog, too

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>this thread

>> No.76361747


this is just not true. there are multiple flavors of control still viable in the meta. UW miracles, UB narset lock, and the sultai FOT control piles. There is also Blue Moon and UR kiki jiki combo. You seem like you have no idea what you're talking about.

I want FOTD and possibly either T3feri or veil of summer to be banned. If i could pick just one, FOTD. That would bring back even more control. As good as teferi is, there are a lot of answers in a format like modern.

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Ohhh shit fren. How much did you get? Do you know yet?

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>he'd keep t3feri

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w-wat? I don't understand, fren!

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Come on man, I blew the bloody doors off on october 26. You know for sure exactly what I'm talking about. I got something like 12k.

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Are you going to be at the potluck on the 21st of this month? I think I'm going to go in a guy fawkes mask, you should wear one too.

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And why are you so surprised by this? Hawks and frogs go way back. We share interests and
What, you didn't think you were the only one who noticed how thin the walls had gotten? Momma noticed ME too.

>> No.76362201

I have 0 clue about what you're talking about fren, you start to spoop me.

>> No.76362229

I'm your /pmg/ bro with the little jade frog. We fucking did it man.

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We did what? And what should i know?

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Well, if you haven't figured it out yet I won't spoil it for you. Suffice it to say I got what I wanted and fucking then some.

And I don't give a fuck who knows. I told that obi-wan looking dude with the big gold chain that I wasn't afraid of him, then and now. Open challenge to anyone reading this, if you have a problem with it then you can take it up with me directly.

And I got friends now.

>> No.76362315

Are you a magician?

>> No.76362341

you sound like someone high on mushrooms.

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Yes. This is the modern magic general after all, why wouldn't I be?
I've done a shitload of mushies but I'm just a little stoned right now.

>> No.76362364

Rock on.

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i don't know what's so controversial about this picture. it's obvious they adopted the baby.

>> No.76362517

Unironically name one (1) counter to your opponent doing this
Protip: you can't

>> No.76362766

>playing the deck that killed the thing you played for a decade
lol no, there's no artifact-based alternative

>> No.76362773

based, saved for posterity

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you should obviously take advantage of his previous two spells

>> No.76362841

>mindslave him beforehand
>cast two of his spells that he kept on the stack
>cast ulamog with the remaining mana
>mindbreak trap
game two ?

>> No.76363025

Sublime ephiphany can counter the ability and ulamog

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>> No.76363227

Is it just me or is /mmg/ less active?

>> No.76363262

I scared a bunch of people away by making a lot of noise and attracting a bunch of attention. Can't say I won't do it again though, it's kind of fun.

>> No.76363516

There are so many creatures with etb/cast abilities/haste that it feels like everything has a free sorcery on it so actual sorceries are shit unless they win the game outright

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>> No.76363581

gemstone caverns

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*Blocks your path*

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Blue elitism got so bad that wizards decided to fuck them over the hardest because (((they))) could pump & dump paypig trannies for more squeaky dollars than they could the crowd who already had their (((50k USD))) collections.
Fuck (((investors))), why are they always bluefags? Because they play legacy with decks that have an inane pricetag on them in the format where (((blue))) is king.
And (((Hasbro))) in their infinite wisdom saw how easily these collectible cards would spike in value, and had the design team create (((((BATTLE FOR ZENDIKAR))))), which broke a bunch of formats but sent prices SOARING on a bunch of old niche gards. It's not like jotc hadn't played with the idea before now, of course, but this time the (((suits))) got involved.
I'm tired of this game. I'd like to play a new one now please.

>> No.76363659

How is that a spoiler? That is just expected.

>> No.76363765


only 6cmc!

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>I'm tired of this game. I'd like to play a new one now please.
Play an old one instead, one where skill matters and it's ok to acknowledge that White is superior.

White to play and send Black back to Africa in two moves.

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>friendly, daily and threadly reminder that wotc is de facto printing an illegal cryptocurrency where prices are kept artificially inflated due to artificial scarcity and insider trading that gets distributed through lottery tickets and lootboxes and that they spend, all costs included, 2 cents per card to print them

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Install lackeyccg and the vtes plugin. Garfield made another ccg called vampire the eternal struggle after wanting to right the mistakes of mtg. It's by far the superior game.

>> No.76363892

They should delete these threads until you chess faggots fuck off to your own thread

>> No.76363896

Are you quite sure you want M:tG rejects at your (virtual) table, fellow Methuselah?

>> No.76363898

Keyforge is also fantastic, though losing out on deckbuilding is obviously a dealbreaker for some.

>> No.76363912

>everything else is fine, but the one chess puzzle per thread is really triggering my autism and I'm too much of a brainlet to participate so I feel really left out

>> No.76363925

that's why LGS has it at 75% off and people still won't buy it?

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As long as they are willing to learn, don't stall and don't get afraid of a little table talk and politicking (backstabbing). I'm an mtg reject too since mirrodin, but what ever.

>> No.76363941

Just because something is good doesn't mean it always sells.
Conversely, just because mtg sells well doesn't mean it's good.

>> No.76363968

Keyforge is just draft without deckbuilding
We call that Sealed in MtG and it sucks, it's considered the worst non-EDH form of MtG. Yet when Keyforge does it it's amazing? Fuck off, Keyforge shills. That shit gets old so fast.

>> No.76363981

it's a slow month for mtg, and modern has been dead for a while

>> No.76363991

this. Plenty of games with good gameplay end up dead because no one wants to bother trying something new or supporting it long-term

>> No.76363997

>if I can't pay more money than somebody else to get an advantage over them then it sucks
Like pottery

>> No.76364013

>he says, as people were selling Keyforge decks for hundreds of dollars

>> No.76364025

Star City Games says that Modern is in a good place now because you can infinite combo with Heliod and that checks all the other broken decks.
How pathetic is this?

>> No.76364033

Queen f6
If opponent take horse f6. If he doesn't Queen f7.

>> No.76364046

What you're apparently unaware of is those decks (any deck, actually) gets immediately nerfed after winning a tournament. The game literally autocorrects its own meta, which was brilliantly designed.
Garfield delivered an excellent product, far superior to mtg.

>> No.76364058

formats are good when boardstates are interesting and bad when they're not, and modern's fucking terrible

but as far as heliod goes, toolbox piles and bears are the two decks that actually care about boardstate in any capacity beyond "run them over", and his deck is one of them

>> No.76364059

Absolutely perfect, anon.

>> No.76364102

It wins by playing a 2 card infinite
If this deck is the solution to Modern's problems it's actually even more shit than just Uropiles
How is Heliod Combo vs. Omnath Combo supposed to be a good meta?

>> No.76364106

lol these threads are still going?
pathetic, just give up already. MTG sucks, move onto better things.

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Mtg sucks

>> No.76364238

Play Starcraft Brood War
The True Perfect High IQ Game

>> No.76364255

While I'll advocate for chess as the superior game, I do love me some Brood War.

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the fuck are you talking about, every other match I play is fucking mystic sanctuary Cryptic command fuckery. But yeah, midrange is completely dead, primetime decks are more cancerous then ever, and so are combo decks;Heliod, oops and Ad naus are all fucking miserable to play against

>> No.76364307

UW control is just a worse version of Uro piles. Jund was always shit though, even before FIRE

>> No.76364318

but omnath, prime time, uropile, and g/w toolbox are all midrange creature combo decks. also even if midrange was "dead" it's because of midrange being so overpowered that the only thing that can beat it is delete player combo decks.
you have only yourself to blame

>> No.76364320

>a solved game with a major faction imbalance
Human vs Computer the computer will always win Chess

Two computers, white will always win.

>> No.76364342

>I literally have no idea what I'm talking about
Fair enough.

>> No.76364362

Are you retarded? Uro and Omnath piles are definitely control, the play like max 7 creatures, the rest are spells and planeswalkers

And g/w toolbox an primetime are ramp decks.

>> No.76364371

Just reinstalled mtga after quitting a year ago. Never put any money in, got quite a good collection and now I'm back to grinding some shit. Though the people are so shit that atleast when I started with mtga, I dominated with an ub creatures only deck. Let's see what I can make from the precons and if it can keep my interest and if it can do anything.

>> No.76364377

it's almost like decks can be more than 1 thing
something like heliod is a midrange creature deck with tempo/control elements and a combo jammed in.
midrange killed modern, not combo. if you think otherwise you're just some coping midrange faggot

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and watch them immediately scoop

>> No.76364399

This has to let them cast Ulamog once so it's already failed. And it's 4 fucking mana. Against Tron.
You meant Meddling Mage.

>> No.76364420

it means that the only people who play Ulamog seriously are FNM tryhards and Arena casuals.

In actual magic formats Tron has significantly more value than just shitting out an Ulamog

>> No.76364425

Of course decks can be more than one thing, but saying Uro piles is midrange is stupid. Midrange can be described as a deck that can generally be aggressive, see Tarmogoyf. Not to the point of burn, but still put on pressure early. An Uro pile will never put anything down that will actually kill until turn 5.
>with tempo/control elements
What, because the play path to exile?

>> No.76364433

>actual magic formats
What the fuck are you talking about? Pooper, where Tron is the biggest cancer in the format? What else do you even do with big mana besides casting big stuff? Tron is a budget deck now anyway.

>> No.76364456

Dude, you can't just call everything a midrange deck. Heliod is a creature combo deck. Simple as that.

>> No.76364476

heliod is literally just a bunch of value creatures and it wins by hitting you with them while it fishes for the combo or for other creatures that are answers. it is carried by an incidental combo and a few very strong creatures. it's a midrange/combo deck. its creature strategy is more viable than something like kiki jiki.
stop fucking coping, you midrange tards killed this game and now you're trying to blame it on combo decks including by classifying one of the most dominant decks as a combo deck. meanwhile the only reason combo is the archetype to beat is because midrange kills everything else, even control because the creatures are 3 for 1s so control going 1 for 1 becomes totally pointless.

>> No.76364488

>heliod is an incidental combo
Holy arena, batman!

>> No.76364505

Let me guess, you think Death's Shadow, Humans and DnT are midrange as well?

Also what the fuck are you going on about? Feels like I'm talking with a schizo. Why are you complaining about combo when it's not even been brought up?

>> No.76364521

death's shadow is a midrange deck.
humans is an aggro deck with midrange elements. d&t is a midrange tempo deck.
I was always talking about combo, tgis whole discussion is because midrangelets like you are crying that modern is a combofest when it's only like this because midrange shit it up and killed everything else

>> No.76364544

Decent bait
Almost thought you were serious for a moment.

>> No.76364555

I accept your admission of defeat

>> No.76364561

>because midrangelets like you are crying that modern is a combofest
Who tf is saying that? There is like 3 combo decks, hardly a combofest in a format like modern. The problem with the combo decks is that 1.Oops all spells is just fucking stupid, and probably the least interactive deck ever and leads to non-games. 2.The Heliod deck just feels too strong, Heliod himself being the center piece, which is like impossible for most decks to remove. I have nothing against Ad Naus, except for the "Je ne sais Quoi fish"

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>> No.76364589

I remember when people in this general were saying combo decks were chad. Prime Time too

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>because midrange shit it up and killed everything else
But Jund is literally dead

>> No.76364606

lmao, look at this absolute cretin!

>> No.76364607

They are tho. I like my selesnya valakut deck. In most games I don't even play the titan.
Heliod company suck because Heliod is retarded.

>> No.76364612

>putting gay dryad in your deck

>> No.76364613

If you've actually played memedern at all within the past 4 years your opinions are invalid and you're a mouthbreathing amerimutt cretin

>> No.76364615

>spout nonsense
>get mad when ppl call you a schizo
like pottery

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Twiddle is still the most chad deck ever, even though it's a dead meme. Does anyone have the:"This is Twiddle" image?

>> No.76364631

It was good up until 2 years ago. What do you play? Legacy? That's even worse

>> No.76364636

Titan was based before Dryad an FotD ruined everything interesting about it

>> No.76364639

Legacucks BTFO forever
How will they ever recover?

>> No.76364641

I used to play legacy regularly but I haven't done so basically since the release of Oko

>> No.76364642

>Legacy? That's even worse
Nop, nothing is worse than modern. Nothing.

>> No.76364649

When standard and pioneer exists?

>> No.76364652

I would support a ban of FoTD. The dryad is interesting and allow for more deckbuilding strategies.

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>> No.76364680

what is modern? a miserable little pile of uros

>> No.76364762

>Play Dryad
>Bring 2 copies of Valakut
Wow, super interesting deck building!

>> No.76364796

Without the dryad your strategies would be limited to having many mountains in your deck and maybe casting scapeshift or a titan.
With the dryad you can make use of combo such as flagstone + elvish reclaimer, use differents sets of utility lands like bojuka bog or blast zone and you are not obligated to play mountains.

>> No.76364839

>elvish reclaimer is a fun and interesting card

Dryad is just ez mode though.
>Fuck deck building around valakut, just play this fat creature that costs 3 for some reason, doesn't die to bolt and fixes your mana for you while perfectly working with valakut

>> No.76364862

Naw, fuck dryad. Not only did it kill RG Scapeshift, it also homogenizes any ramp decks, because it it's so much better than anything else you could play

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>tfw living end player

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This deck looks awful. Why are so many people playing it?

>> No.76364978

>Folds to T3feri

>> No.76365003

It's an interesting deck with many angles of attack. It can kill on turn 3, grind more efficiently than any midrange deck, thanks to pyromancer, light up and bonecrusher, along with flashback cards. It also has Obosh, which can kill you out nowhere. Bloodmoon takes care on any degenerate multicolor decks.

It kinda has it all, despite being mono colored

>> No.76365040

combo decks can be chad, Mindslaver lock, owling mine and twiddle come to mind
no one wants to play with post 2019 cancer tho

>> No.76365107

You're just mad you can't afford magic cards

>> No.76365134

I own multiple legacy decks and >20 duals. I choose not to play memedern because it's a trash format

>> No.76365135

Not wanting to be a consoomer != poor, retard. I make nearly 5 figures annually.

>> No.76365137

mad because bad

>> No.76365176

because it can do it all
there are games where you're a clunky Prowess deck and that's enoguh to win because your opponent doesn't have blockers
there are games where you're a honest "Turn 3 Blood Moon" deck and that's enough to win because your opponent is full of non-basics
there are games where you're a "Remove every creature you play" deck and that's enough to win because your opponent needs creatures to win
there are games where you're a "Obosh, Bolt, Dart, Dart" deck and that's enough to win because your opponent didn't protect his life total

the deck is quite literally the embodiment of "Jack of all trades, Master of none" and that's very good when the meta is Uro piles vs Combo decks vs Fair decks, you just have a plan for everything

>> No.76365184

No, Legacy is worse, and as it absorbs more EDH sewage it will only get worse

>> No.76365190

Man I fucking love this deck. Fuck Uro piles, fuck dryad, this is the deck to play.

>> No.76365259

>play Obosh
>bolt opponent for 6
Mmmmhhhhh yes, I love it. Only deck that is actually fun in the format atm

>> No.76365363

tron is a combo control deck

>> No.76365388

I think WotC needs to bring back ways to mess with the mana that lands produce. Literally turning one Island into a Plains or something would take a player out of Double-Blue territory and get things back on track.

>> No.76365424

No one disagrees. This isn't a hot take. Eldrazi Tron on the other hand...

>> No.76365505

Eldrazi tron is an aggro deck.

>> No.76365576

i really expected manamorphose here

>> No.76365587

disregard I missed Obosh

>> No.76365639
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Hold on laddie, We'll make it through this.

>> No.76365931


>> No.76365972

>fut street wraith

>> No.76366058

Just slap in blood moons and you will be fine.

>> No.76366080

>I make nearly 5 figures annually.
How is that something to brag about?
My magic collection is more than your yearly pay in that case.

>> No.76366194

How is that something to brag about?

>> No.76366334

>buy into ad nauseam tendrils
>veil gets spoiled
i will never not be upset about this

>> No.76366365

6cmc to counter a 10cmc creature and also draw a card and any other applicable options sounds good to me

>> No.76366375

can't the deck play grapeshot or empty the warrens instead to play around veil?

>> No.76366515

>playing around things in a linear combo deck
Anon stop you'll hurt his brain

>> No.76366801

Wich one?

>> No.76366963

Don't worry, you're both retarded

>> No.76367260
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>Tfw no chess puzzle since this morning.

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If the food you make with creation is shadowfell magic then isn't it unhealthy to eat? You wouldn't eat a shadowblade after all

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>> No.76367546

there was one, it got deleted I think

>> No.76367758

>still playing black in living end

>> No.76367774

I know right? That's like people who still play red in Valakut.

>> No.76367810

Death's shadow is modern's delver.

>> No.76367832

Death's Shadow actually takes skill

>> No.76367883 [SPOILER] 
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Do you think Fabled Passage is a good card? I'm looking at it for cube and maybe some EDH decks and it seems like a solid budget option for proper fetches. I guess Prismatic Vista might be better though right?

>> No.76367901

Hahaha you didn't block my shadows? Haha you fool! You utter moron! Whooooooah bolt myself for lethal! Haha did you see that epic play? When I bolted MYSELF? What a twist haha! Who? Me? Dealing damage to ME? But that's your job haha! Super ultra BASED play! Ten million IQ deck right! You can't make this stuff up haha!

>> No.76367934

Does Delver not? I remembered playing a UR faeries/delver deck in modern around the time RtR released and it was hugely skill intensive as a tempo deck. Is the legacy/pauper version (I assume you are talking about one or the other) more straightforward?

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>> No.76368103

Legacy delver used to be one of the hardest decks in the format. Having oko to just instantly out anything you lose to has reduced that skill requirement by a lot

>> No.76368119

Based and redpilled

>> No.76368162

>I make nearly 5 figures annually.
So do most non-NEETs with income not in a third world country

>> No.76368180

why can Oko elk artifacts I own, that makes me so angry
I don't care if you make 1 million 3/3s out of your food tokens but leave my swords alone, fucking hell

>> No.76368193

Play chalice to beat delver? Elk
Play jitte to beat delver? Elk
Play sofi to beat delver? Elk

>> No.76368221

lol no

>> No.76368301

Ah okay, that makes sense to me. I really enjoyed the UR deck I had back in the day but it was super decision heavy. You couldn't actually remove anything with 4+ toughness so you either had to counter or try to race and often times that decision was pretty tough.

>> No.76368374

Your words are as empty as your wallet!

>> No.76368429

The fact that Oko is still legal makes Legacy a joke.

>> No.76368461

>Only MY epic pile of WALLET is le TRUE MIDRANGES!
Ayup, Midrange brainlet at it again.

Based truthsayer, don't let the overweight, low IQ subhuman americucks say otherwise.
>Remember the dank rhino
>remember Uro is a midrange creature

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uro and veil really broke this place huh

>> No.76368596

>Legacy delver used to be one of the hardest decks in the format.
Bullshit. D&T and Miracles are both much harder. It's naturally more forgiving than any non-brainstorm/ponder deck it's much more difficult to un-fuck yourself if something goes wrong or you rip the wrong half of your deck. In top of that the suite of card selection/free counterspells/undercosted threats ensure you have no truly bad matchups and get a fair number of free wins off Threat Daze Force hands.
What there ARE are a lot of terrible Delver players, as they hear (rightly) that it's the best deck in the format and don't know how to approach matchups that aren't Delver mirrors and Storm.

>> No.76368634
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Where were you when D&T lost all credibility?

>> No.76368662

Same place when Spirits lost all credibility.

>> No.76368663

What's that anon? Did you mean 4c orouko pile playing 1 terminus?

>> No.76368728
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>cast skyclave apparatiion, trigger on the stack activate vial on 3

>> No.76368736

This should be the template for white removal going forward. Giving them the original permanent back is way too backbreaking with all the value that permanents generate.

>> No.76368767

reminder that the only reason why white sees play at all in legacy is because swords to plowshares does almost all of the heavy lifting for white.

>> No.76368772
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>Time Stop
>throw you on the table
>remove ur invisible pantsu and sodomize u

>> No.76368785

More like because of Wasteland and Aether Vial.

>> No.76368796

TFW new shift no time to play with friends

>> No.76368808

It's decent. It's better than prismatic vista once you have 4 lands because it doesn't make you lose life but before that it's much worse because the land arrive taped which is not necessarily a huge bummer depending on your curve but it may not be worth it in an optimized deck.
If you have ramp it's an excellent card because you will almost always crack it at 4+ lands and use its full potential. I play it for that reason in my omnath EDH deck.

>> No.76368840


>> No.76368885
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Is $20 too much for a playmat? I usually just buy the $8 solid color Ultra Pros. but this caught my eye.

>> No.76368927

>NOOOOOOOOOOOO you cannot have a good white card!!!!!!!!!
>That's white supremacy
>I am litteraly shaking now. How dare they?
>Primeval titan, seasoned pyromancer, urza, uro, etc. They all at least were not white.
>This card eat a permanent. Do you see the horor? It's super OP!!!

>> No.76368998

Bro if you like it, buy it

20 seems fair for playmat with specific art

>> No.76369060
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This card should never have been printed.

>> No.76369081

They should just make Wasteland standard legal instead honestly

>> No.76369097

and Back to Basics

>> No.76369112
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opened a new box of cmr. how jealous are y'all?

>> No.76369147

Why did checklands stop seeing play in Modern? Kinda weird how they were such a big deal back then.

>> No.76369160

Yeah I guess I should prioritize picking up Vistas. I was looking at Fabled Passage because it was reprinted already and in a core set so I figure it would be a lot cheaper right now so it might be a good time to buy a few.

>> No.76369167

Low expected value, not that jealous

>> No.76369169

quit shilling matt

>> No.76369193

What's wrong with that card? Is it because it synergizes with Flagstones?

>> No.76369364
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>balked at buying a foil brain freeze for 40 bucks a couple months ago
>mfw it's now 100 fucking dollarydoos

>> No.76369445
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>balked that gemstone caverns didn't go lower than $20
>spiked to $40+ during the covid spike

>> No.76369482


legacy is literally oko the format

>> No.76369518
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>bought a playset of fake Cavern of Souls for $20

>> No.76369569

that's fine honestly

>> No.76369871

agreed, what purpose does this serve?

>> No.76369887

Come on now, it's Oko AND Delver

>> No.76370295

>new mothership article talking about region locked story content
Kaldheim is going to be more oozed than this last year combined

>> No.76370298
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what are your pet cards? i really like koth and i'm sad that skred is terrible now

>> No.76370339

Lingering Souls

>> No.76370340

>Retain land parity
Literally what's the problem?

>> No.76370360

how do you have region locked story in a card game

>> No.76370361

If Kaldheim doesn't manage to make Grixis playable again, I'm quitting the game.

>> No.76370382

>chinks and ruskies spared from ritualized gay kang orgies
Some governments look down on gay shit, fictional or otherwise, and WotC doesn't want to have to edit their stories. So now certain things won't get published in some countries.

>> No.76370441

>play against a shitbrew and almost losing online
Seething with anger
>play against a shitbrew and almost losing irl
"Cool deck dude, that was fun"

What is it that makes everything so tilting playing mtg online?

>> No.76370462

Kalitas, but four mana do nothing is way too slow

>> No.76370504

Planeswalkers are super gay and the only thing that makes them not gay is the fact that you can also have them.

>> No.76370526

it's strange how planeswalker hate cards are either overcosted or shitty.

>> No.76370570

that actually makes them even gayer since they are so game warpingly strong that you need to have one too most of the time so there's basically a mandatory class of card nobody fucking likes but are the most important part of the game once they're on the field

>> No.76370594

Bolt does the work for me.

Or are we talking about those permanents on the battlefield?

>> No.76370680
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from recent cards ? I guess Pic related as a 1 of. Otherwise, I built multiple decks around Fathom mage

>> No.76370866

shocks and fetches

>> No.76370927

spirebluff canals
suspend greater gargadon

>> No.76371048

>neither player has a planeswalker
>both players are probably going to have fun and have a 50/50 shot at winning assuming their decks and skill at the game are evenly matched
>one player has a planeswalker
>unless the player without one dedicates their time to removing the planeswalker they'll probably lose
>both players have planeswalkers
>neither player will have fun, but both have a 50/50 shot at winning assuming their decks and skill at the game are evenly matched

>> No.76371098


>5 figures

>almost at 10k boys

>almost there

>> No.76371110

Absolutely everything sucks online, no exceptions. Video games, card games, chess, D&D (and others), conversations, there’s not a single fucking thing that you can do online that matches the quality and mood of doing things IRL.
Lockdown can’t end soon enough

>> No.76371128

Man, literally every old border foils are spiking like crazy lately. Froggy was on laser point with this call.
I wanted to buy some but i thought we'd had more time to buy them... Even him told us it could take up to 2 years before og foils becoming the 'new beta', or something like that, i don't remember well.

>> No.76371129

When is WotC removing Planeswalkers? They are clearly anti-FIRE mechancis.

>> No.76371178

Wtf, i've a playset on sale for 10€ on mcm since ages and it's not selling... How do i sell them in the US?

>> No.76371258

Why are they spiking? I thought the pimp fatigue was extreme with all the countless foils/extended/collector/masterpieces scams versions being printed for every new card?

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pic related is so good in modern. being slept on BIG time.

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i just picked up 3 foil predicts out of fear of them getting much higher
pimping out a legacy high tide deck that i'll probably never get to play again.... could my life get any more JUST'd?

>> No.76371356
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Bros I need some help with some power cards. What are some cheap singles I can get that I can use in kitchen table magic against a friend that has started to spend hundreds of dollars on cards.

pretty happy that I managed to pull a new gold rare from the gold set

>> No.76371384
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The thing jews fear the most is math.

>> No.76371393

Mental Misstep
Take that nigga to pound town.

>> No.76371468


precisely that people are fatigued with all the new modern era "pimp". thats the main reason why people are moving into old borders. though the big caveat is how the time spiral block reprints with new old border foils will turn out (aka if itll look like the shitty mystery booster old borders or the vibrant "true" old borders)

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Feel you catbro, but don't despair, hopefully theses retarded lockdowns will soon be over.. who am i fooling, this is a new feudal age starting, governed by commie states and mega corps, it'll probably not end before decades ;_;

>> No.76371616 [SPOILER] 
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That new hammer deck with Stoneforge seems like a lot of fun, does anyone here have any experience with it?

>> No.76371784

Because they are what collector stuff should be : rares.
New foils are so commong they fetch a negative premium lol.

From what i know only cards who didn't see any printing in old border will get the old border treatment (ie, only 8th and onward).
About the quality, well, i've no idea yet, we can only hope for the best, but knowing wotc it probably will end up looking like shit.

I didn't get my hand on mystery old borders foils' imitation, it was this bad?

>> No.76371807

i dunno, do you have a list?

>> No.76371836


>> No.76371866


>> No.76371883

looks cool but absolutely tier3

>> No.76372353

Lol, just bring Oko, and see what happens

>> No.76372416
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You can run, but Lurrus will always find you.

>> No.76372513

kill me lurrus

>> No.76372824

there's literally nothing wrong with this card

>> No.76372932

Lurrus (and companions in general) are fine now that you have to pay 3 to put them in your hand.

>> No.76373037


I truly hate Magic.

>> No.76373556

after thinking about it i've decided force of vigor is literally the worst designed card in the entirety of modern horizons

if somebody is going to do something degenerate you used to have three options
1. blow their head off
2. remove or counter the thing
3. use permanents to blunt the degeneracy

FIRE was already making 2 increasingly unviable but 3 really just completely shat on anyone who wanted to limit degeneracy instead of simply doing something more degenerate

just an absolutely dogshit format

>> No.76373591

it's the only "free" force spell, ever, to be a 2 for 2

>> No.76373638

i would buy an entire pallet of kaldheim if wizards would extend this principle to hosing permanents that were actually oppressive rather than fucking *enchantments*, the last type in the entirety of the game that needed more shitting on

tale's big end - 2BB
destroy up to two target legendary permanents
you may exile a black card from your hand rather than pay this spell's mana cost

>> No.76373647


you'd be wrong. it's been getting solid results in leagues.

>> No.76373680

Force of Vigor is really retarded because it exists only to fuck over answers. It punishes you for even attempting to interact with green, a color that does nothing but windmill slam retarded shit.
That's why I'm negative on the future of Magic, because much like everything in life, it's gravitating towards enabling retards.

>> No.76373686

Can you please make it white? We need this.

>> No.76373706

>it's gravitating towards enabling retards.
How else will we get the tranny whale cash?

>> No.76373760
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do you think random mtg cards will be worth fat stacks in 10 years time for some reason? I like dropping stuff I don't plan on using to free space but I don't really need the cash

>> No.76373788

you would have to be a god with balls of steel to spec on magic cards right now because they just keep shitting out current reprints
you could end up investing in a bunch of great henges to sell 10 years later but the card gets reprinted in some edh faggot deck or challenger deck or masters set within 5 years
hell, it seems the set designers don't really communicate well. it could be reprinted twice
might as well just buy stocks like some boomer

>> No.76373794
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>veil of summer
>force of vigor
>the great henge
>once upon a time

>> No.76373847

>once upon a time
This card was such a big fucking mistake. People have been bitching about the power of Stirrings for years and then they print a free instant Stirrings. Simbly ebin. In practice, combined with the London mulligan, the consistency was fucking insane. It was like being able to take a free mulligan. It was fucking Jitte tier where you play with it and think, "there's no way. There's no way anyone tested this or else they would have immediately seen the issue."

>> No.76373902

cryptic command + mystic sanctuary is one of the most common decks right now, maybe number one, it comes in UW and 4 color omnath variants, but it is definitely neither combo nor aggro

>> No.76373987

it's not really speccing as it is selling stuff I came across and have now. Maybe in 20 years when the game is discontinued it becomes chased by collectors. Though I see no reason why random, non-iconic cards would be worth shit. And even if they had some value, could I realistically get more than $3000 tops over what I would get now? Not really that good for a 20 year wait.Tho who could have know black lotuses would be like they are now?

>> No.76373992

what if we banned every single one of these in modern?
>mystic sanctuary
>field of the dead
>veil of summer
>prime time
>force of negation
>simian spirit guide
>dryad of the ilysian grove
>tron lands

am i crazy? would this result in wildly

>> No.76374004

in a wildly unbalanced format***

>> No.76374015

how is tier 3 inconsistent with those results? a deck that could never produce any results would be called unplayable, untiered

>> No.76374031

oh i forgot
>creeping chill

>> No.76374045

semen spirit guide is fine, it was fine for years. the problem is the fucking spell lands, there is no fucking way they anticipated people jizzing through the whole deck with those things in oops and there is no way to balance them because if you were to make them count as both spells and lands at once, they could be looped via life from the loam and potentially give dredge retarded grinding ability. of course this is never going to happen so they would have to ban something really dumb like sword of the meek and/or charbelcher.
the situation with this game is so sad right now, they've created so many stupid cards, they would have to ban a ton of them and most aren't even gamebreaking, just very, very poorly designed. but because few are broken in a vacuum, wotc will let them slide

>> No.76374103

I play Dredge and I know Creeping Chill is disgusting but it feels so good. Escaping Ox into 4 Creeping Chill is like winning in Vegas. It's just too strong of a drug. I would inject it into my veins if I could.

>> No.76374366

>force of erasure
>exile two target permanents
>cast for free by exiling two white gards from hand
>counter this spell if you control an island or swamp, exile a blue or black card, or have a blue or black card in hand

>> No.76374479

Nope. The black MH1 force can be (but it's generally pretty bad), Pyrokinesis is used to kill multiple creatures, and the old black pitch spell also has definite potential to kill two things. The real reason why it's cancer is >>7637368. Answers for answers are generally a tool for very unfair decks.

>> No.76374510

i'm saying that aside from a dedicated Eldrazi deck, Ulamog isn't a threat worth playing in any format EXCEPT for tryhards who only target Timmy players at FNM and people who are dogshit at arena and just throw Ulamog/Ugin into every deck as an easy wincon.

Modern, Legacy, Vintage, Pioneer, and even Pauper have way more cards worth spending excess tron mana on that can actually impact the state of the game instead of a random Ulamog out of nowhere.

>> No.76374512


i think force of negation, simian spirit guide, and tron lands can stay. everything else can go

>> No.76374549

Force of Negation and SSG are fine, the rest could be eliminated without negative repercussion.

>> No.76374554

Timmys are the ones playing shit like Ulamog
And if you have mana flowing out the ass why would you not spend it on retarded big mana wincons like Ulamog and Ugin? They're wincons and you answer it or you lose. Ulamog gets to exile 2 permanents on cast. People aren't playing this shit in Tron just because.

>> No.76374563

Are there any rule #34 Lurrus big booby anthro? Anime catgirl?

>> No.76374600

Categories: Vore; Anal Vore; Depression; Suicide; Impregnation; Reverse Impregnation; Catgirl; Furry; Bestiality; Huge Boobs; Rape; Reverse Rape; Straight Shota; Necrophilia; Reverse Necrophilia; Tsunere; Yandere; Paizuri; Chubby; Tail
Artist: Shadman; Minus8

>> No.76374629

Same standard as the opening hand scry 3 sphinx
Combine once upon a time and the sphinx for insane card selection.

>> No.76374651

The original red force does 4 damage divided
Checkmate, athiests

>> No.76374686
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So what are the final thoughts on DF lands/ spells?

>> No.76374689


>> No.76374710

This video makes me laugh every time.

>> No.76374733

Absolute FIRE

>> No.76374801
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MTG has a great community :)

>> No.76374986


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Some faggot keeps having an aneurysm and reports them all.

As requested, fap to your heart's content.

>> No.76375216

There's an issue with your image.
Any winning line White may have relies solely on Black playing poorly. If White queens or is on the verge of queening, Black simply exchanges the Rook for a draw by insufficient material and White has no way of stopping it.

>> No.76375291

I retract my statement. That black rook is in a bad position and off tempo. This requires further investigation.

>> No.76375454

Ok, taking a shot here

1. c7 Rd6+ 2. Kc5 (the critical move, denying Black any good check opportunities and no threat on the pawn)

I haven't analyzed the rest. White still has pitfalls to avoid, but that line should queen the pawn.

>> No.76375538
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Yeah, besides affinity aggro's death, lantern and other prison decks also died. The mox opal ban killed more decks and did more damage to the format than any other mismanagement from wotc, desu.

>> No.76375554

this. Based chesschad.

>> No.76375587

>you midrange tards killed this game and now you're trying to blame it on combo decks
very much this. Fuck all the jundtards and standardlets we get here. They're the ones who have been demanding op planeswalkers and busted value creatures, and they cheered for the bans which gutted the format.

>> No.76375604

Slag Fiend, forever and ever

>> No.76375609

imagine if this cost 1

>> No.76375660

>force of negation
>tron lands
>combo should be <1% of the meta
Just go back to standard.

>> No.76375668

t. storm nigger

>> No.76375763

Why on earth would anyone but a tronfag want tron lands to be legal?

>> No.76375799

>assblasted by Tron in 2020
There is no redeeming the playerbase.

>> No.76375823

i bought a deck builder's toolkit because i wanted to start playing someday. (and because the cards are fucking beautiful)
a year has passed and i didn't even touched it.

>> No.76375840

Build a cube out of proxies if you're still interested in Magic. You can basically bust that out like a board game.

>> No.76375879


>> No.76375932

I like them
Why even play Ulamog when you can just play Walking Ballista for 6 less and still win just as hard?

>> No.76375972

I like deck diversity. Besides, the tron lands are a cool idea. There's nothing much wrong with the deck, really.

>> No.76376011

>cool idea
>hurrr i have turn 7 on turn 3 ok I play big mans now

>> No.76376045

Monarch the format would like a word...

>> No.76376119

I don’t think there’s anything especially interesting about a set of 3 lands that are worth twice as much as other lands. “Colorless” isn’t the drawback WotC likes to pretend it is, especially not nowadays. I’m not foolish enough to claim Tron is especially linear but >>76376011 isn’t far from the mark. Drop land, play rocks, drop big nig every turn and win hard.

I would say Ugin is one of the biggest mistakes. The fact he can be a one-sided board wipe, and he removes/wins on an UPTICK is just gay. Even shit like Karn or Wurmcoil isn’t as astoundingly annoying.

Now add green Ponder that lets you find your wincons OR your missing tron pieces and the deck belongs in a fire pit.

>> No.76376202

>I don’t think there’s anything especially interesting about a set of 3 lands that are worth twice as much as other lands.
The idea behind the deck is assembling the trio quickly. It's pretty novel, and it makes ld playable.

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