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Undercover Chaos Apothecary Assassin Edition

>Imperial Armor Update

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>Previous Thread:

Which do you find the best in your experience in terms of final product quality, Acrylic or Oil Paints? Maybe a third option? Feel free to share.

>> No.75641819
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Art of War's tier-list by Nick Nanavati and John Lennon
Art of War's 9th edition tier list:
Space Marines
Dark Angels
Blood Angels
Ad Mech
Grey Knights
Death Guard
Space Wolves
Thousand Sons
Chaos Space Marines

Only thing here I disagree with is Orks.

>> No.75641820
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What colour should i paint the head?

>> No.75641831

Which do you find the best in your experience in terms of final product quality, Acrylic or Oil Paints?


>Undercover Chaos Apothecary Assassin Edition
This would be based, but not as much as the idea that half the so-called successor Chapters of the Ultramarines were actually made from Alpha Legion geneseed and simply were never told.

>> No.75641850

>no deathwatch
The new codex will either make or break our boys in black...

>> No.75641855

Kislev Flesh with a Seraphim Sepia wash.

>> No.75641875

>orks that low
>custodes not S
>guard that high
Lmao, people pay money to this guy

>> No.75641892

Acrylic easily, assuming we're talking purely miniature painting

>> No.75641903

A-tier is definitely where custodes are.
I do disagree with Orks
Guard are beginning to ramp up with more usage of Bullgryn
>people pay money to this guy
They stream and can be asked questions for free lol

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Y’all paint anything today?

>> No.75641946
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>orks C tier
>Daemons A tier

>> No.75641961

IS the armour red or Magenta?

>> No.75641962

that whtv sw painting video today sure wasn't liked

>> No.75641965

Custodes have won more tournaments in than every single one of his S-tiers except for marines. And if you look at the goon-hammer meta analysis, they're better in a majority of metrics than most of them as well. Granted the recent FAQ should mix the meta up a bit, but anyone claiming custodes aren't S tier is talking out their ass
>They stream and can be asked questions for free lol
Doesn't change the fact people still pay them money

>> No.75641974
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Have any of you tried snow effects on your minis? Overall are they worth the effort and do they generally make the models look better or is it more of a gimmick?

>> No.75641992

Daemons are really fucking good rn. Mono Slaanesh has been doing well, and Nurgle is frequently souped into DG, and is usually the most important part of them.

>> No.75642000

Looks like shit to me.

>> No.75642034

>Put effort into making sure all your mold lines are gone, your primer goes on nice and smooth and your paint job is nice
>cover it in lumpy jizz

>> No.75642038

Orks are just skew that will fall out of favor when people remember how to play against them.

>> No.75642043

Mmm, I wouldn't put it on the minis themselves, it's way too coarse. Makes them look like they're the size of pugs instead of men.

>> No.75642050

mono slaanesh and undivided daemons are hitting 60%+ winrate

>> No.75642052

Too much on top of the model looks like shit. If you're moving around that much snow doesn't build up. A little on the bottom of the robes would do just fine

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>> No.75642111
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On the model looks a bit jankly. Generally snow doesn't settle on things that move for long unless you're in a blizzard. And without the blizzard which you obviously can't model, it looks a bit odd.

>> No.75642117

>tfw when southern and leftist yuppies stole my word

>> No.75642121

I don’t because I assume it melts on marine armour.

>> No.75642152
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they should have gone with black and gold like the 30k SW terminators and destroyers

>> No.75642160
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Just got the Kill Team starter box for my birthday. Never played KT before but it looks like rad. Anyone here have any kill teams you recommend for Space Wolves, Blood Angels, or Ultramarines?

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>> No.75642178
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Are Ynnari good?
If I can't mix-and-match within a detachment and I still get just as CP penalized for taking a CWE and DE detachment as I would a Ynnari DE and Ynnari CWE detachment I fail to see the point.

>> No.75642180

Is there a way to find a list of models by base size?

>> No.75642181

Fuck y'all, its a tragedy of vernacular

>> No.75642201

Every since the switched to "battle ready" tutorials it has been shite. I don't need a tutorial to show me how to do the bare minimum on a mini, I can figure that out myself. The in-depth tutorials were aspirational if nothing else, they gave you something to aim for and encouraged you to go outside your comfort zone.

>> No.75642202

hes right though. the words been hijacked and somehow become cringier.

>> No.75642212
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I did it for my buddy's Vostroyans but only kept the snow to the top of their hats

>> No.75642214

I spent some time with an 8-digit randomizer for letters and numbers, tried probably a thousand different codes.

If any anons have bought a codex and used the code for the app, did the codes have a specific base? I'm wondering if the codes aren't made at random on their part.

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>> No.75642218

Kill Team is getting an update earlier next year.
You're safe going with Intercessor sergeants w/ Combat specialist and then Eliminator as leader
Orks want to meme list with a grot leader and Klaw/big Choppa nobs. Burnas are a trap.

>> No.75642224

>deldar, nids, orks getting good placings
>C tier

>craftworld 2nd to worst win rating
>B tier

>> No.75642236
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What do you eat while painting?

>> No.75642245

it never looks good

>> No.75642260

I don't, especially not a meal

>> No.75642267

just painted that guy yesterday

>> No.75642270

lol manlet Armageddonite

>> No.75642275

What's the go-to for crimson fist paintjobs? Both hands red? Just the right? Just the left?

>> No.75642282

Aren't they literally broken in the current state?
Like the rules don't make sense broken
I think the new codex is going to be really good though, judging from the small supplement they released.
RIP 8th edition bros that bought a shit ton of aggressors though.

>> No.75642287

I don't eat or drink, that would just cause more oil to form on your skin.

Wash your hands often while painting.

>> No.75642288

Nothing, it will get all over your fingers.

>> No.75642292
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Could the Wolves have razed Prospero without the help of the Custards and SoS?

>> No.75642297

No, nor should they be. Ynnari are an abortion in both fluff and rule terms

>> No.75642302
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>> No.75642303

Nothing, you're asking to get food and paint places they shouldn't be doing that. Why is everyone eating during every aspect of this hobby? I mean a snack during long games or like a food break or something I get but damn.

>> No.75642310

Wow, what is that? I'm thinking the US might be missing out in the pastry department.
I don't eat anything while painting though, A) I want to keep my guys clean and B) it's bad enough that I keep absently trying to rinse my brush in my soda.

>> No.75642315

If dubs neon green

>> No.75642317

>nids good placings
Mostly fringe tournaments in aussieland, one of which was beaten by the fourth place ad mech list, and relied on counter-meta spam since everyone gearing up for marines
>deldar getting good placings
Nothing higher than a third place, and one was a soup list.
>Orks getting good placings
I do agree, and I think they should be A-tier. They haven't played with buggyspam, and most of their ghaz and boyz tests haven't been as fruitful.
>craftworld 2nd to worst win rating
I think Nick is still coping for this one. They are definitely C-tier.

>> No.75642320

If you want to mix and match, look at the PA info about the "reborn".

>> No.75642323

Both hands are for vets or officers only. They don't have any other blazonry like painted helmets or anything either.

>> No.75642324

Maybea a cheese sandwich, nothing messy.

>> No.75642325

The new DW primaris box would've been nice for 8th, for 9th is a joke, they are so obviously clearing out stock and taking the old veterans away...

>> No.75642326

Teal or blue would probably look good.

>> No.75642327

>Power gaming faggots that just spam unit of the week don't know anything about the game
Wow what else is new. 2D weapons for 2W models? Ground breaking.

>> No.75642328

Fair, I just want to bring Harlequins with Dark Eldar and not pay CP

>> No.75642334

I’m irish and our woketards started saying it. Sounds so ridiculous

>> No.75642339

Because their painting vids have become lazy as shit.

>> No.75642346

Thoughts on what’s in the BA army box next month?

>> No.75642353

doritos and digestive biscuits

>> No.75642355

>They are definitely C-tier.
They haven't even come close to even placing and have one of the lowest win rates in the entire game. They're shit tier, even knights are arguably better

>> No.75642361
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to think there could be a single chapter more based than the black templars

>> No.75642365

So how about a Deathwatch watch sergeant who's ex-crimson fists? Would he be able to keep the hands or would he not?

>> No.75642369
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>Deathwatch units have literally been created and subsequently removed before either of my armies have received updates from Finecast

>> No.75642373

It’s mind boggling that slaanesh is the best. Stay faithful.

>> No.75642380

>Power gaming faggots that just spam unit of the week don't know anything about the game
Only thing I disagree with here is Orks.
>don't know anything about the game
They are ranked the highest in last year's placings, and one of the guys who did that list took first place in the largest GT played in 9th yet.

>> No.75642384

I miss Duncan

>> No.75642388

New York fag, hearing people say it sounds so fucking dumb in a lawn guy land aacksent.

>> No.75642390

What are shark threads?

>> No.75642392

deathwatch should have never been a seperate army.

>> No.75642397

Sanguinary Guard
10x Assault Intercessors
Blood Angels Lieutenant
Primaris Librarian

>> No.75642400

Paying CP is honest;y not a huge deal, a ton of top lists pay the tax to take extra detachments.
You're honestly bet off doing it, since ynarri will probably never be very good after they got nerfed from late 7th/early 8th

>> No.75642401

Pure knights are not being played, and I heavily doubt that Craftworlds are at the level of fucking Tau

>> No.75642407

>That guy at the LGS that's so fat he has to sit down to play 40k and pays someone to move his models for him.
Anyone else experience this particular breed of thatguy?

>> No.75642412

Definitely would have all died if they didn't have the Sisters of Silence. Literally was listening to Prospero Burns on audiobook and the narration character was thinking "We're all going to die" until the Sisters of Silence showed up.

It's a curious question of what the fuck the Thousand Sons would have done if they had stopped the Wolves at Prospero. Probably stand around awkwardly unsure of what to do with their hands.

Of note, the Space Wolves and Custodes are fucking retarded in Prospero Burns

"Hey, Amon, equerry of Magnus the Red, attacked us in the back rooms of the Council of Nikea, severely wounding two space wolves and Amon of the custodes."

And then they just kind of... let him run away and never follow-up on that or mete out any punishment, because literally any followup would have revealed that the real Amon was sitting with Magnus pretty much the entire time and what they fought was a daemon disguising itself.

>> No.75642415

>thinking theyll put manlets in the box

>> No.75642419
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>Only thing I disagree with here is Orks.
>They are ranked the highest in last year's placings,
Daemons/Harlequins are the highest ITC winrate factions by a significant margin and they put them in A.

>> No.75642421

slaanesh was always kinda my favourite chaos god and chaos army
still not going to play them until we get new noise marines, but I'm happy for my bonerbros

>> No.75642427

40k stats metrics has them worse than tau. ITC has them higher, but not by much (and only .3% better than pure knights). And that's just WR metrics

>> No.75642429

You're subbed to SayHiPaul too eh?

>> No.75642448

They're YOUR dudes. That's the best part about Deathwatch to boot.

However. No, as far as DW LORE goes, they're only permitted to bear their old pauldron and any chapter specific "swag" like censers for Dark Angels or Raven Feathers for Ravenguard. Stuff like that. Otherwise, DW is a strict uniform.

>> No.75642451
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why isnt a new siege of terra novel coming out anytime soon?

saturnine was released almost a year ago.

>> No.75642455

Wait, replace Sanguinary Guard with Inceptors

>> No.75642457

>They are ranked the highest in last year's placings, and one of the guys who did that list took first place in the largest GT played in 9th yet.
And? "they played well last edition" doesn't mean shit, how are they placing in 9th?
And even that doesn't change the fact that their rankings fly straight in the face of the many objective metrics available on performance.

>> No.75642458

Probably not. The Wolves took massive casualties before the Talons showed up, and even then it was a tough fight.

>> No.75642461

Sayhipaul would be one of the best if I didn't have to listen to his labored breathing all the time

>> No.75642467

>And? "they played well last edition" doesn't mean shit, how are they placing in 9th?
John got first place in the largest event in 9th so far

>> No.75642469

Chaos anons, I've got the Warth and Rapture box and the old deamons battleforce as my starters for daemons, what else should I get as a noob? The Lord of Change looks great so I'm thinking of buying him

>> No.75642475

Eh, not really. slaanesh's gimmick is great in 9th, it's not that surprising they're doing well

>> No.75642479

Cutlery exists you fucking savages.

>> No.75642486

Someone mind explaining to me how the waifus are S tier now?

>> No.75642487

I know a guy in my university tabletop game club that is so fat he has to bring his own chair to classes and club because the normal folding ones everyone uses break under his weight. He also can't fit in anybody's car when we go out to local events, so he never comes.
A different guy I work with was diagnosed with diabetes but ranted about how modern medicine is bullshit and they are just discriminating against him cause he's fat. He didn't stop eating the foods that made him diabetic in the first place and it fucked up his feet (which can happen, apparently) and now he can't walk and he looks like he's gonna fucking die any second whenever I see him his complexion is so disgusting. Still eats at least 4 cookies at lunch.

>> No.75642492
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When this guy was brought out, Squats were still a supported army. Necrons and Tau had never even been conceived of. The Deathwatch were nearly a decade away. Sisters and Custodes were just curious sidenotes in the fluff part of the old rulebook.

>> No.75642501

If you only used Aggressors to camp like a bitch then you deserved the nerf, just like the faggots with only SB+SS kill-teams.

>> No.75642512
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Play Crusade.

>> No.75642513
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This is peak 40k

>> No.75642515

He's skinny compared to what i'm talking about.
I'm talking about someone so massive they can use their gut as a painting table with room for storage.

>> No.75642528

>feeling sad for the faggots who ran anything other than sally flamer aggressors
>feeling sad for marines at all

>> No.75642535

Going out on a limb and saying that Heavy bolters , flamers, and MM got buffed.

>> No.75642538
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Just look at these prime men

>> No.75642543

Leaning harder into Slaanesh is the better competitive call right now.
From a hobby aspect: just get a bunch of different daemons until you can field them as a bunch of different detachments.

>> No.75642559
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Does this look like the face of someone you should trust?
Don't believe his LIES and INVENTIONS.

>> No.75642561

Buffs to their weapons.
S tier might be a little bit of a stretch though. As other's have pointed out, there a quite a few flaws in that ranking

>> No.75642565

what half-assed unit addition will DA/BA get?
reivers+SW upgrade sprue
so maybe
aggressors+DA upgrade sprue
inceptors+BA upgrade sprue

>> No.75642569

>yfw you run mainly Repentia
livestream becoming an hero?

>> No.75642575

death company inceptors

>> No.75642578

Unironically the best batreps
I am disgusted by the grotesques in this hobby though

>> No.75642580

I am and Grey Knights are bullying my daemon engines and obliterators

>> No.75642588

That guy is actually based tho he has a funny sense of humor and the channel is in my opinion literally the best 40k tabletop battle report channel on YouTube.

>> No.75642591

yeah but what KINDS of ork army are good?

if orks have only 1 build that is really good and everything else sucks ass the codex is awful garbage.

>> No.75642594
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What are you guys working on?

I've got some blood ravens with 'gifted' outriders. Going to be a white scar, ravenwing, and raven guard bike.

How the fuck do I avoid these seams, or what is best to patch them? These are from the starter box.

>> No.75642595

What exactly is Asurmen and the Dire Avenger aspect's thing? Being guardians without a proper day job?

>> No.75642607

Upstatefag, we don't have the Noo yawk accent but it drives me up the wall to hear idiots up here saying y'all now in our fucked up pseudo-canadian.

>> No.75642610

I don't know what he's doing in this picture though? Looks the same as the rest of you mechanicus weirdos to me. Just make more tanks, please.

>> No.75642612

Looks like Herman Munster

>> No.75642616

Lord of Change is an amazing model, but best when used with Tzeentch daemons I think.

>> No.75642620

>Fat guy is funny
Well yeah. They have two modes. Fat or fat and funny

>> No.75642624

fuck that, i'd rather have absolutely no new releases for BA for the rest of the edition than GW slapping the black rage on a unit that would benefit from it in no way shape or form

>> No.75642627

guardians are just temporary conscripts
dire avengers are basically professional soldiers

>> No.75642630

sub to his channel.

>> No.75642634

You'll most likely get assault intercessors with a DC upgrade sprue.

>> No.75642645

Apply more force? maybe spackle? Idk I don't actually do this hobby I just shitpost here. Those are Imperial Guard dudes right?

>> No.75642648

Ok cool, thanks. I was figuring I could probably just go ahead and do it, but I'm a lorelet and didn't know what the protocol was, I couldn't find much on specifically fists.

>> No.75642651

Use some greenstuff to fill in the seam. Plastic glue will melt the plastic a bit and helps prevent seams by doing so. Remove some of the peg to have a bit more leeway with how they push together

>> No.75642652

>Archmagos falls to Chaos in 30K
>Current year
>Archmagos found doing heretical stuff
>Isn't immediately *BLAM* by Guilliman.
Does all nulore suck

>> No.75642654

Clip the pegs, the EtB kits are always trouble if you dont

>> No.75642658

I pull up a chair. Especially if it's a 2v2 game and people wanna drag out their phase.

But PAY people to move my models? That's probably the fattest thing I've ever heard.

>> No.75642660

Pretty much. You join a shrine, spend all your time training and fighting, then after some years you retire and go back to your normal life (if you don't get shot to death/eaten)

>> No.75642662

When does my MTO Indomitus box ship? Reee

>> No.75642663

Why is that a problem for Orks and not SM? They all learn entirely into Bladeguard, Eradicators and Drop pods.

>> No.75642670

>yeah but what KINDS of ork army are good?
Boyz heavy, mega-nobz heavy, mad max vehicle spam.
And that's just GT and majors, RTT likely has more variety

>> No.75642681
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I do not like the primaris psyker model. Any recommendations that are in the GW range? Thinking saruman on foot.

>> No.75642693

I am an Ork player.
I unironically can't fucking stand Boys as a unit.

>> No.75642694

AoS Flagellants

>> No.75642703

>Archmagos falls to Chaos in 30K

>> No.75642707
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Clearly done by someone who has never been out in snow before. It rarely clumps on you like that unless you've stood still for hours. It'd make sense for a tank or terrain piece maybe, but infantry should have a light frost effect on their coats or other "cold" parts of their bodies with little to no stuck on snow anywhere but the boots and shins. The heat the motorized and flesh areas those models would have would melt the snow enough to cause it to slough off in most cases. If anything, lower parts of the body should be covered in mud, unless it's something like pure ice and snow they're walking on, or extreme cold and there's not been much sun or movement over that piece of ground yet


No, I've worked outside in actual inclement weather before. I just forget a lot of 40k hobbyists don't go outside much and wouldn't know this sort of thing. A lot of weathering and rust effects people do don't really make sense and I forget it's because they really don't know better.

>> No.75642708

Not as bad as the guy who has a huge fucking zit that looks like it's about to burst.
Can't even bother to cover it up with a little makeup.

>> No.75642709

Try what this guy did at 1:18


>> No.75642710

I cut off the pegs for pushfit and use plastic cement instead. apply a tiny bit of tamiya extra thin cement to the gap and boom done. that's what is did with my outriders 2 and 3. that will get rid of the gaps but seam will still be visible, you'll need putty and sanding for a smooth surface.

>> No.75642712

t. has flat butt

>> No.75642716

I hear ya. I held off purchases for the last year or so on my army. I got just over 1000 points, probably more since the point boosts.

>> No.75642719

Bellybutton Callgirl

>> No.75642723

>ork player
>hates orks
lmao what?

>> No.75642738

Don't really agree. He doesn't have huge amounts of synergy with the Tzeentch lesser daemons and is a very effective focal point for any Undivided list. Only real thing you have to think about is sticking your slaanesh stuff in its own detachment for advance and charge.

>> No.75642741

Wet snow sticks to fucking everything, retard.

>> No.75642745
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forgot pic

>> No.75642751

Hates Ork boy unit anon.

>> No.75642754

it's important to cut off the pegs and not push too hard, otherwise you'll have plastic goop oozing out of the gaps.

>> No.75642755
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>the historic colors were reversed

>> No.75642764

oh so there is some at least a little bit of variety? then thats pretty good.

>> No.75642768

Or, instead of assuming its because people dont go outside a lot, realize that many parts of the world don't get enough snow for them to have even seen the effect before.

>> No.75642770

Me on the right

>> No.75642773

Not a bad option, but not my taste.

>> No.75642776
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>dkok squatted
>ywn read about dkok breeding program in detail
why live bros?

>> No.75642778
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>tfw I yoyo from 250 to 400 to 250 every other year
>still go to campaign events anyway, just make sure I get in early and pick a spot close to a wall and out of the way

>> No.75642782

>plastic goop oozing out of the gaps.
This is not a problem on non-detailed surfaces, just leave it to harden and then cut/scrape/sand it off.

>> No.75642793

Not orks, just boys, I hate them too.
Ancient arm flailing termagant wannabe bullet bait.

There are likely a lot of potential variety, lots of room for experimentation, only snakebites are utter trash with zero synergies or interesting combos.

>> No.75642799

Boyz are literally just plain orks, and embody the entire ethos of the faction in their rules and lore.

>> No.75642812

How the fuck do you yoyo 150 pounds.
Jesus christ man stop eating

>> No.75642817

yeah how much snow does the uk actually get? most brits probably dont know anything about it.

>> No.75642824

>Shit at melee
>Not tough
>Die like a wet blanket

>> No.75642825

This can't be healthy. Less healthy than just being overweight, even.

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Maybe collegiate battle wizards

>> No.75642843

I hate fat "people"

>> No.75642859

Too bad their models are ancient and ugly with shitty posing.

>> No.75642867

I wouldn't know, I live in new york. 15ish years ago we got a decent amount of snow that you could go sleeding for a few days before it was gone, and it took awhile to shovel out the driveway. Last year I think we only got a few dustings, maybe one good snow day total. Can't even remember the last white christmas. I want to move to northern montana, I hear it's north enough to see the lights.

>> No.75642874

Of course the yank loves the espawts shit.

>> No.75642877

the only reason they succeeded was because Tzeentch backstabbed Magnus

>> No.75642878

ew why so pale?

>> No.75642891
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Would the ttcombat industrial hive terrain be good for 40k?

>> No.75642895

>>still go to campaign events anyway, just make sure I get in early and pick a spot close to a wall and out of the way
are there rules that wouldn't let you?

>> No.75642903

You dont become a wizard by being physically active in the sun all day, anon.

>> No.75642909

Grab an old sanctioned psyker from somewhere.

>> No.75642911

How do you have a regular variance 150 pounds anon? Might be worth seeking professional health

>> No.75642915

even with psi-titans, custards, sos and magnus not even fighting back until halfway into the battle they still needed tzeentch's help and even so the wolves took massive casualties

>> No.75642916

>Shit at melee
What the fuck are you on about? They're solid for a horde troop option. Compare them to literally any other non-marine troop
>Not tough
Again, see above. They don't have Armour but compare them to guardsmen, Guardians, firewarriors, etc and see that they're tough in their specific horde niche
>Die like a wet blanket
So does everything

>> No.75642929

It looks really fucking cool anon, but the first thing you should do is check the dimensions to see how many models you can fit on it first. Assume both players are playing huge hordes as the stress test.

>> No.75642930

Yeah but that guy's fucking blue.

>> No.75642932

We get about 20 days of snow, but it doesn't get much higher than a 1-2 foot. The rest just turns into sleet or mush by mid-morning.
The largest I've ever seen was a few years back during that mental snow storm we had, and it got to about 3 metres near me. But that's the first and only time I've seen it fall like that in 30 years

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Those novels are a fucking distaster in terms of internal consistency and coherent plot. It is like they knew they needed The Burning of Prospero to happen because it was already in the fluff, but no one had a fucking clue how that should happen, what events would lead up to it or how it would go down and it just turned into a garbled mess of characters making illogical decisions. Not in-universe mistakes, just straight up nonsensical actions because the authors don't seem to know what is going on in their own story.

>> No.75642938

You will not be missed

>> No.75642940

How tall are you?
Just stop eating nigga

>> No.75642944

It's cheap, it's effective, it's in scale with some of the infantry. Just make sure to paint it

>> No.75642951
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navigator (espern locarno) or primaris psyker (aradia madellan) from blackstone fortress

>> No.75642954

It’s TZEENTCH! HE’s always backstabbing someone. It’s like saying the only reason the Space Marines beat the Eldar in [Insert Battle Here] is because gravity held them against the ground when they attacked.

>> No.75642955

Maybe he's cold anon. He could be an ice wizard.

>> No.75642967

AP 0 1 Damage is shit.
T4 means nothing
Armour save doesn't exist since ard boys vanished as a buy ability, but again if you give them 4+ SV they're not Ork Boys anymore. Same with Skarboys were a 5 makes them viable.
They are Orks, their whole shtick is being hard to take down.

>> No.75642970

I think he's a celestial one?

>> No.75642972

>What exactly is Asurmen and the Dire Avenger aspect's thing?
Theoretically it's "a balance of offense and defense." In practice that means being fairly cheap dudes with 4+ armor and invulnerable saves.

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>> No.75642983

>>Shit at melee
>>Not tough
Absoluelty wrong, unless you're comparing to marines or custodes or something. Boyz being good at melee and durable for a horde unit is a primary reason why orks have done so well

>> No.75642992

anon, you're just straight up wrong
the fact that all good boyz-heavy lists run them as skarboyz is proof enough of that

>> No.75642993

Oil paints are very very very useful for a blanchitsu / otherwise grimdark way of painting. Otherwise acrylic.

>> No.75642996
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you could also try cleaning up these rogue psykers to make them more loyalist

>> No.75643000

Celestial = heaven
heaven = very high up
very high up = cold
He's cold because his magic comes from a place thats really high up, thus turning him blue.

>> No.75643005

>unknowingly undercover Alpha Legion chapter
that amuses me

>> No.75643007

Again they're doing well because Skarboys, which makes their entire stat line!= Ork boy.

>> No.75643013

That's more intended for something like Necromunda, but give it the obscuring tag and it should work fine. Otherwise there are are too many holes and sightlines through it.

>> No.75643023
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Anyone have a good suggestion on a paint brush set for miniatures? I was going to buy one off amazon. Also wanted to get some other paints that were designed with mixing in mind? Does liquitex make good paints? I saw they have like some sort of basic kit which includes things like mars black and titanium white etc. I guess some primary colors?

>> No.75643036

>using brushes

>> No.75643045

Anon, you're retarded
AP0 D1 is basic across the board for almost all troops. Astartes get AP-1 on chainsword but are now about 20 points each and output less attacks per point than you
T4 means a lot if you've ever played a T3 army. You take 25% less casualties against S4 shots than a T3 model. That's better than a 5+ save. That's better than a 4+ save against ap-1.
Orks have always been poorly equipped hordes that rely on natural toughness over armour. Fuck off

>> No.75643048

>armour decorated with celtic/viking knots
>only wolf shit is a pelt (because those are common regardless of legion), and the legion badge on his knee

that dude is pretty cool

>> No.75643060

I too enjoy finger painting

>> No.75643065

Since you're new, get cheap ass brush sets and don't get attached to them, they'll serve you well but won't last very long even with good care.

As for paints, Citadel, Vallejo, and Army Painter are the go-to ones I've heard of

>> No.75643068

How would you encourage people treating Space Marines properly as a supplement to the main imperium armies instead of as a stand alone faction? Assuming that you aren't going to squat any large portion of the current SM lineup.

>> No.75643072

Are there any noise marines with weapons that aren’t guitars? Where are the power drums? The power sax? The power glockenspiel?

>> No.75643074

>he dips his fingers in paint
I use my tongue to apply paint so I dont get it on me

>> No.75643082

pretty sure that range is aimed at Necromunda and Infinity but that actually looks amazing seeing how modular that set is, im caught between that and their Ruin Sector now

>> No.75643086

>Their whole shtick is being hard to take down
God I hate orkfags.

>> No.75643089

>he doesnt swish paint around in his mouth to thin it with saliva and spew it onto his model

>> No.75643094
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Space Wolves are far better when they're leaning more to their space-viking side than their wolfy mcwolfersson on his wolf-drawn wolfchariot side.

>> No.75643102

is that not the ork shtick?

>> No.75643103

Neck yourself faggot.

>> No.75643109

Oh wow let me just go into the meta where guns are S4 AP 0 and people are only wounding me on 4s.
Ggggggggget fucked mathhammer faggot

>> No.75643121

>not injecting the paint into your dick using a sounding tube and then masturbating to completion and nutting the paint/cum mixture onto the model
So many secondaries in this thread..

>> No.75643127

it is a universal fact every chapter looked better in their legion days

>> No.75643130

>the fact that all good boyz-heavy lists run them as skarboyz is proof enough of that
Nah. See the second place list here: https://www.40kstats.com/nswironman. Just because Goffs is the most popular route doesn't mean it's the only viable one.

>> No.75643133

Also Grey wolves>Baby smurfs

>> No.75643134

>Orks literally replace limbs for fun
>Orks main guy is a dude who took a bolter to the head, survived, and then got said head chopped off and still survived
We get it anon, you're a lorelet

>> No.75643140

Just don't buy your white from GW, they're terribly lumpy. And think abut what kind of primer you'll want, everyone makes very different primers.

>> No.75643150

>He does this with his own dick instead of using his wife's boyfriend's dick.

>> No.75643152

No. Custodes, Death Guard, Necrons, and to an extent Iron Hands are meant to be durable. Orks are meant to be giant piles of muscle wielding literal scrap for both arms and armor. That doesn't really imply being especially durable.

>> No.75643155

Emphasize Imperial Guard more. Bring up conflicts where space marines aren't involved and actually make important things happen where space marines are at most supplementary to the efforts.

Sadly, lore-wise, space marines are in a perfect lore position for spotlight stealing. They're a rapid response attack force which cuts off the enemy when a normal force cannot, which means they're always fighting the enemy's most important forces

>> No.75643156

The real heresy was not against the Emperor but style.

>> No.75643165

No anon, you don't understand your own faction.

>> No.75643166

green stuff, or...
apply plastic-glue and press it together
works for me

also, you primed your minis, don't you?

>> No.75643167

What the fuck can be done about Tau? I don’t think I’ve seen a single battle report in 9th with them winning.

>> No.75643170

Orks should be hard to take down with small arms fire. What kills a normal man an Ork boy laughs at, but what kills a space marine must kill an Ork

>> No.75643174

No their schtick is being a horde of naked screaming retards. Your worry is not having enough bullets to put all of them down before they culturally enrich you.

>> No.75643182

they are supposed to be hard to kill with regular weapons which they kinda are.

its just they 90% of players in the game play space marines and they all got bolt guns.

>> No.75643185

They are. Lasguns only wound them 1/3 of the time.

>> No.75643187

You see anon I actually play Orks, I don't pretend they get 30*4 attacks in combat.

>> No.75643191

That's why they're T4 you dumbass.

>> No.75643194

>Small arms fire

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Idk man, it's almost an addiction when I start losing weight then life throws something at me and I end up falling back off the wagon for a bit. Thankfully the doc says I'm all good otherwise, just got some minor back pain which is easily treated with over the counter meds. I had to get a second opinion a few times because it was initially worrisome though.
Nah but it's a dick move to be in the way so I avoid doing so whenever possible.
Who sat on your models?

>> No.75643202

yeah totally. I've got a bunch of manlet kits sitting around that I'm not using anymore, so I've been thinking about getting a box of wolves and make a detachment with less wolf fetishes

>> No.75643217

I've played Orks since AoBR
If you think ork boys should have a better save than a t-shirt or higher toughness than a space marine, you're a fucking moron who does not understand your own lore.

>> No.75643221

Okay and it takes around 8 lasgun shots to take down a boy, double that for a nob. I can see them being t5 but giving them a good armor save seems dumb as hell.

>> No.75643222

No, not at all. Their schtick is recklessness and brutality and having a LOT of whatever it is (Bodies, Attacks, Shots). There's is a certain toughness to Orks that is reflected in T4 and their "come back for more" vibe. But it's not really defining for them. Especially on the table. They die all the time, there's just "more where that came from."

>> No.75643235

And yet you fucking spastic ard boys has been established for fucking ever. Get the fuck out

>> No.75643237

Y'know it seems even some orkfags agree with me on this, which is a rare occurrence. I'm going to take it as a sign that I'm right.

>> No.75643245

You suck

>> No.75643250

Orks are more about... well being bullies.
Tougher, stronger, faster and luckier than expected, or than their point cost would imply.

One of the reason they do better the smaller the game size, but put practically an Ork unit against their equivalents from another army and they lose.

>> No.75643253

>All boys are Ard boys
Again, get the fuck out

>> No.75643255

you really only need like 10 paints while youre starting out
> 5 paints specific to your army
> also black, off white, black wash, brown wash, gold

also a texture paint for your base

>> No.75643260

>No boys can't be ard boys
Neck yourself

>> No.75643263

about half

>> No.75643264
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>not using your tits
you can learn a thing or two from george soros's daughter in law

>> No.75643266

Small arms refer to individual soldier's weapons, as oppose to crew-serviced ones.

>> No.75643272

So, I recently started a new army that had White as a main color. Because of this I started messing around with a tonne of different paints and recipes for white. Here is what I found.

For your base coat, take Army Painter Matt White and Liquitex White Ink and mix them 1 to 1. It layers beautifully, depending on your base color/primer you may need to do a second coat. If you're painting shit loads of infantry, you could just use the one coat and then give it a coat of Apothecary White for some easy shadows and highlights, it very easily creates a White result that looks high effort, with virtually no fuss.

>> No.75643273

Are you using GW's crusade cards?

>> No.75643281

>having tits
flat is justice, using modern paint is heresy

>> No.75643291

In every Space Marine battle, mention that the main war is happening nearby offscreen with Guard vs the horde of the week, or that the Marines need the Guard to do somethng for them to pull their party tricks. Show Guardsmen dying in the background or underfoot when Marines do the movie poster poses.

>> No.75643294

That kit is 10/10 for conversions and proxies

>> No.75643296

I'm sure there's some copypasta that gets spammed about them recently that's a good first step

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>your thought here should be "why would she want to come up with an excuse? why doesnt she feel safe enough with me to just say she doesnt want to date?"
I hope that's not the reason but it doesn't seem likely, she seems to genuinely care about me and tries to help me often. I assume she just didn't want to hurt my feelings. She really did plan to leave but the whole covid thing threw those plans into whack.

The asking her while she's on the freeway thing was a joke, especially since i'll just chicken out again either way.

>> No.75643307

Not him but that makes it kinda hard to distinguish what you're referring to by 'small arms fire'. Look at Devastators / Eradicators / Termies with Assault Cannons / Hellblasters / whatever else. On Space Marines those are 'small arms' as they're just wielded by a single marine. For Imperial Guard those all would be crew serviced.

>> No.75643313

I drink cold black coffee through a straw

>> No.75643317

Please stop being you.

>> No.75643322

You could probably sell them and buy a better army

>> No.75643329

>400lbs at 5'8
Jesus christ anon how do you fit through doors?

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>> No.75643332

Anon, life is hard. Don't make it harder on yourself, you need to give up on this girl and just be happy that she's willing to be friendly with you. I'm not trying to be mean, you just kind of sound like a creep. Do you know what we mean?

>> No.75643344

doea anyone have a good guide on subassembly to suggest? I want to try it

>> No.75643348

It's hard not to compare everything to marines when they're the most played faction

>> No.75643354
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>A bolter on a stick with a power sword bayonet
>One of the most powerful and hardest to make weapons in the Imperium of Man's arsenal
Truly humanity has declined.

>> No.75643359

horse skull man

>> No.75643361

Whats to explain

>> No.75643366

Hyper-advanced power armor covering him from head to toe
>uses a wooden shield
What was this artist thinking?

>> No.75643375


>> No.75643376

Are you asking about painting Subassemblies?

>> No.75643380

>every time there are any amount of space marines in a box set, they aren't sold by themselves
>instead they're a supporting force to guard, admech, or sisters of battle
>exceptions can be made for conflicts where it truly is a battle with only marines in it
>additionally, you can take a patrol of marines (maybe with some PL cap on how big it can be) alongside admech, sob, or guardsmen without CP penalty, provided your warlord is of the space marines.

>> No.75643385

>He doesn't know about magic space-tree wood

>> No.75643406

>falling off the wagon
>one hundred and fifty pounds of fat
I work in the hospital and I hate fat people so fucking much, literally all you have to do is not guzzle down food constantly.

>> No.75643408

I hate this picture so much. His stance is awful, the way he's gripping his weapons is awful, his face looks somewhere between a pufferfish and a howling banshee, etc.

>> No.75643411

You have to be around 700ish before doors become an obstacle

>> No.75643417

just wondering if bit by bit is too autistic and what can be considered a rational amount of pieces to work with. Or is it simply head, rx arm, and the rest.

>> No.75643421

People can walk at that weight?

>> No.75643438

Yeah I know you're just trying to troll for the fun of it, or as a cover for your own insecurities you're trying to project onto me.

You miss every shot you don't take.

>> No.75643452

I'll subassembly anything that would make painting the surface underneath it a pain. How much is "too much" is entirely down to what you consider to be too much effort.

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>> No.75643462

"walking" is basically just falling and catching yourself, so yes they can "walk" but it just destroys their knees long term.

>> No.75643463
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Bit by fucking bit anon. It's the only way to be sure. Do you want to glue everything together only to notice there's a blank patch in some part of it that everyone can see but you can't reach because no brush can make the two 45 degree angle turns needed to paint it?

>> No.75643465

Same bro, shit's disgusting. I really think they don't know just how bad being fat is for your body. It literally harms every single part of your body. Or they do know and just don't care.

They kinda shuffle around more than walk, and not very far. Most will use a mobility scooter at that weight though.

>> No.75643470

ok, I'll try eyeballing it then

>> No.75643473

I go OMAD with a 500 cap, I'm no stranger to a diet but I guess I just let myself slip because I know how easy it is to recover when necessary. Sorry about your job though anon, I know most fat people make your life hell

>> No.75643481
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I fucking love shit like this, a tiny glimpse into the universe that makes it feel more lived in.

>> No.75643483

nah you are being a complete autistic cunt that creeps literally everyone out.

>> No.75643486

You -TOOK- your shot anon. Don't project onto me, I'm happily married, and have been for 5 years this November. You need to know when its time to stop and move on. I'm trying to help, not troll :(

>> No.75643495

lel nice tau gun

>> No.75643508

Used to be nearly a fourth of every codex.
Now that's devoted to MS-paint recoloured schemes.

>> No.75643509

Subassemble to your heart's content. However, keep in mind that generally you're going to make the whole process take longer than it needs. If this is your first army, honestly don't sweat subassembling. Save it for elite units and HQs, don't worry about most of your other stuff.

>> No.75643511

IG bolters are not crew-served. I also don't think a crew-served weapon counts as a "small arms" just because someone can pick it up and fire it from the hip with efficiency. Even in Devastator squads the bolter marines nobody takes are suppose to assist the gunners.

>> No.75643517

>even more RE Xenotech
Oh fuck, GW did say DW was getting some new goodies soon

>> No.75643530

congrats, you fucking larper

>> No.75643531

How did Inquisitor Retinues work in the past?

>> No.75643539

I am but all these reabsorptions to give things adaptive physiology is hell on my knees

>> No.75643540

Are the memes about sister models and their faces true? They seem pretty good if you don't do GWs typical style also I plan to give them all slutty make up

>> No.75643542

>pulse carbine

I thought pulse weapons were suppose to be piss weak according to the Imperium.

>> No.75643543

>tau gun is sanctified for imperial use
>immediately gets a bayonet
how can xenos fags compete

>> No.75643552
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they generally range from okay to fucking unsalvageable

>> No.75643556
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>Re-engineered Tau gun that's been purified
>Has purity seals, a skull, and a bayonet attached to it
>Also wires for no reason, just to make it look cool
Fucking Mechanicus

>> No.75643562

>pulse weapons being weak
Since when?

>> No.75643569

>acolyte Jimbob has sword, therefore Inquisitor gets a bonus melee attack
>acolyte Greg has shield, therefore Inquisitor has 3++

>> No.75643572

> Cuck tier
> Art of War

>> No.75643578

They're strength 5 anon, that's alright

>> No.75643580

Okay then Hellblasters or Eradicators or Inceptors that dual wield short range plasma cannon pistols or even Terminators if you want a manlet example.

>> No.75643585

According to the propaganda.
Deathwatch being a subset of the Ordo Xenos know, hate and respect alien weaponry.

>> No.75643590
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da Vinci has some great brush sets, I personally prefer their red sable, they are intended for water colors but work great for acrylics too, especially for soft layering, but their synthetics are pretty good as well and pretty cheap

>> No.75643592

BA already have death company intercessors
DA could get bladeguard variants
when a main codex supplement comes out we can prob expect flame aggressor variant for Sallies, outriders for WS, etc

>> No.75643597

Yeah i took my shot and took her at her word and now the situation is different. She'll either say no or she'll say yes. I should do nothing on the chance she'll say no? I should do nothing on the chance that i'm not interpreting the situation correctly?

I appreciate everyone else who posted encouragement about fasting and counting calories. That was much more helpful than someone armchair psychoanalyzing a sardonic post made in the middle of the night as if one could gleam 1/1,000,000th of the situation from that.

If she says no again then yeah i'll let it go because it'll mean that "i'm leaving soon don't wanna get involved" was just an excuse and I'll know for certain that I need to lose a bunch of weight and shit to get the kind of girl that will fit in a rowboat.

>> No.75643606
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To the guy who did the lewd Harlequins, here is my contribution (WIP)

>> No.75643611

The SoB do not just loiter around on shrine worlds, waiting to fight. They are out there all the time on the front lines.

>> No.75643612


>> No.75643623

basically no one plays them so people just put them wherever they like on ranking lists. Despite only having about two "competitive" orders and an otherwise limited and subpar codex, they always get shunted to the top as there's basically no data to prove it one way or the other.

>> No.75643627

Yes, because you trust Imperium account to be the accurate and unbiased source of info.
What, you watch Fox news too?

>> No.75643633

>wires for no reason
get some imagination
clearly it's meant to allow it to accept imperial energy ammunition

>> No.75643634

>Death Company Intercessors
>But not Death Company Assault Intercessors

>> No.75643636

>Regimental Standard
You can't be serious

>> No.75643640

General question, is 1 CP worth about 50 points?

>> No.75643642

You know what, never mind. You should buy that girl roses and chocolates. Make sure to only give them to her when she goes into the walk in pantry. That way you can freak out and REEEEE as you shut the door in a panic while stuttering "Y-Y-Y-YOU TOO".

What a waste of flesh you are.

>> No.75643649


>> No.75643659

>regimental standard for lore
Based guardsman

>> No.75643668

>"according to the Imperium."

You just skipped over that bit in my post or what?

>> No.75643669

Fuck you

>> No.75643675

And you know that shield will offer him a 5++ !

>> No.75643684

For DA they could add Veteran Hellblasters (as Company Veterans equivalent), Ravenwing Outriders and Deathwing Bladeguard or Heavy Intercessors (to finally give Deathwing a troop choice).

Blood Angels already have DC Intercessors but Bladeguard can be the Primaris Sanguinary Guard.

>> No.75643687

Just wait for the new Codex, it'll happen.
>Implying anyone should use anything other than OG Death Company w/ jetpacks

>> No.75643690


>> No.75643694
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In my Inquisitorial Retinue I'd have
>2 Daemonhosts
>3 scions
>1 Intercessor
>1 Sister of Silence
>1 Sister Hospitaller
>1 Skitarii

For a squad of 10.

Imagine if GW released a "Inquisitorial Retinue" box with a bunch of imperial stuff in it for you to mix and match across all imperial factions.

>> No.75643696

No inquisitorial subfaction should

>> No.75643705

its probably ADBs book and he is super behind schedule.
But the chodes of this hobby suck his nuts, so BL just has to grind their teeth and wait

>> No.75643706

I'm not king creepster you dingleberry
I just refuse to believe that anything nice would ever happen

>> No.75643709

>the kind of girl that will fit in a rowboat.
I'm saving that.

>> No.75643714

don't think a sister of silence would ever stoop that low

>> No.75643717

Ad Mech's fucking good, mate

>> No.75643720

Bullshit they had necron models out then. The lord and the warrior. And the weird chair guy

>> No.75643725

look at this appalling optimist

>> No.75643729

It's Fenrisian wood folded dozen times.

>> No.75643731

> *labored breathing*
> muh *pants* first *pants* born!!!

>> No.75643738

>weird chair guy
Destroyers. Plus immortals that were actually cool and bulky!

>> No.75643753

>Ravenguard get their own inceptors
I just splooged my pants

>> No.75643760

Thinking about it I wouldn't be surprised if BA get Death Company Assault Intercessors with Jump Packs.

>> No.75643769

I don't think anyone would understand considering how incredibly bizarre that is

>> No.75643771

>two lore snippets from the same perspective
>one says X is a shit
>the other says X is not a shit

Question isn't about imperium being the objective truth, questions is when did the imperium start regarding pulse rifles as artillery?

>> No.75643772

Its not like she can say no

>> No.75643773
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The wires are to inject kool-aid into the xeno machine spirit to keep it happy.

>> No.75643787

If a girl can't fit in a rowboat she's too fat. It's a very simple metric for judging the value of a woman.

>> No.75643790
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Glad to see you posted anon. I just got home 30 mins ago and just started painting.

>> No.75643791
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>Searching for opinions on best way of running unit X
>People that are sure of their particular way of doing things, insisting they are correct even in the face of evidence or proof otherwise
the standard of ability for most 40k players is really low, huh

>> No.75643795

you can already make death company assault intercessors in the temporary index, you can swap out the rifles for chainsword + pistol

>> No.75643809

>"Hey I met this girl she's really nice"
>"Would she fit in a rowboat?"
>"...Fuck you dude she's trying to lose weight and it's the best I can get, okay?"

>> No.75643811
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This is how I usually do marines. Models with cape I usually keep the upper body separated from the legs
Essentially what >>75643452 said

>> No.75643812

i would think it would be a phobos unit

>> No.75643830

>best way of running unit X
VS what enemy, and unit? In what type force? With what type Objectives?

>> No.75643845

Nice anon, happy painting

>> No.75643849
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Finished this guy last night. My necrons are fully painted now and now deciding in next project.

>> No.75643873

how are the sisters in the dark imperium getting their novices?

>> No.75643883

They get bred by the priests and train their daughters

>> No.75643886

Well for this particular unit, people were just recommending shit. Weapons that underperformed against every target type

>> No.75643896

this answer is bad and I don't like it

that is NOT where novices come from!

>> No.75643921

Speaking of Apothecaries, if you already have a named Chapter Master, it costs 25 points to make your apothecary a Chief Apothecary, and 1CP to use Hero of the Chapter to give him Selfless Healer, correct? Or does he gain Selfless Healer automatically.

>> No.75643925

what are the chances they squat all eldar factions into a single one?

>> No.75643930

40k and 40 stone? Well, at least their shirts are honest.

>> No.75643949

they're primed grey, since I didn't want to try painting from red for doing a white scars bike.

>> No.75643951

Damn son, nice job.

>> No.75643960

No thanks. Im gonna wait until the primaris death company kit comes out. If space wolves get a hounds of morkai primaris kit then I'm getting one too or I'm gonna continue with my xenos armies. Fuck marines.

>> No.75643979

Thoughts on my fuck youj 9th ed space wolf list?

I got a good feeling
Space Wolves Battalion

1 Extra Relic -1CP
1 Extra WL Trait -1CP


Primaris Chaplain on Bike, Master of Sanctity
Wise Orator, Benediction of Fury
Litany of Hate, Canticle of Hate, Mantra of Strength 150

Wolf Guard Battle Leader on Thunderwolf,
Hero of the Chapter,
Rites of War,
Teeth of Terra 105

Bjorn 175
Plasma Cannon


7 Blood Claws, WGBL, 2 fists 146

5 Incursors with haywire mine 115

5 Incursors with haywire mine 115


Invictor with incendium cannon 160

Murderfang 150

>Fast Attack

5 Thunderwolf cavalry, 4 storm shields, 1 thunder hammer, 1 power fist, 3 chainsword 270

12 Fenrisian wolves 84

12 Fenrisian wolves 84

>Heavy Support

Predator Annhilator w/lascannons 170

Total: 1999

>> No.75643985

(Imperial Guard Battalion - Pyromaniacs, Gunnery Experts)
>2x Company Commander (Warlord)
>4x10 Guardsmen
>Master of Ordinance
>2x2 Hellhounds
>Manticore (Full Payload)
>4x Chimera (2x Heavy Flamers each)
(Deathwatch Patrol)
>Chaplain (Hero of the Chapter, Master of Sanctity, Benediction of Fury, Wise Orator, Jump Pack)
>Veteran Kill Team, 5 with SS+SB, 5 Vanguard Veterans with Twin Lightning Claws + Jump Packs)
>Intercessor Kill Team, 5 with ABR's, 5 Outriders
Does this seem like a decently fluffy and fun list to play against?

>> No.75643997

nobody cares

>> No.75644001

Asexual reproduction then

>> No.75644003

Lmao the hounds kit is literally Reivers+SW upgrade sprue

>> No.75644014

A little harder, since CWE and DE don't have much in common, where as with Marines it's more about difference in doctrine.

>> No.75644022

Just fucking melee them for fucks sake

>> No.75644030

IMO They should all be in one book.

>> No.75644063

>no hounds of morkhai
You don't know how to play space wolves

>> No.75644064

can plastic model be ruined by soaking them for too long in 99% IPA? like over a week long?

>> No.75644069

lots of civilians world lost on the dark side of the rift too, and with supplyline cut they are happy to send off useless girls in exchange for some aid or just a blessing.

>> No.75644079

Not in the least.

>> No.75644083


>> No.75644094

How so? Mechanized guardsmen with some supporting Deathwatch. Playing against some Necrons later today.

>> No.75644108

Define "ruined"
I like to put them on the board as "decoration" so my models know what ill do to them if they lose

>> No.75644120

Look guy, you asked and I answered. Fuck off.

>> No.75644122

I'm just curious what I should change to make it more fluffy dude.

>> No.75644130

mostly its because the two rarely ever work together

>> No.75644146

I thought the Deathwatch mostly supported other factions battling xenos.

>> No.75644152

the hounds are just a reiver kit + the existing upgrade sprue, if they make a death company assault intercessor kit it'll be the same: normal ass intercessor kit + BA upgrade sprue

>> No.75644164

Dont use deathwatch
Theyre shit

>> No.75644172

they can make 5 man obsec outrider squads tho

>> No.75644175

Yes but not directly. They're elite strike teams sent in to fuck specific xenos at different times. It may POSSIBLY happen that they're caught on an open battlefield with greater imperial support but that's a fringe case where they aren't being elite elites.

>> No.75644176

that's a crock of shit, inquisition requisition guard regiments all the time. Playing deathwatch outside of kill team is already blurring the lines of fluffy for them anyway, so a small elite force alongside a larger imperium army is about as fluffy as it gets.

>> No.75644187

Less shoulder by shoulder more... walking artillery strike, or on rare occasion they might aid a protagonist bogged down by aliens.

>> No.75644202

until WAACfags abuse them at a tourney and we lose that too, just like everything else that could be fun with Deathwatch

>> No.75644210

Force field generators make the material of the shield irrelevant. Same for power weapons

>> No.75644213

So if I were to run DW + Guard I should just do whirlwinds / other artillery.

>> No.75644244

I mean that the DW are the walking artillery strike.

>> No.75644257

So you mean like deep striking?

>> No.75644259

No, it's
>run DW as nuclear bomb on legs
>run IG as chump cannon fodder with big guns

>> No.75644271

Well yeah that's what my list is trying to be.

>> No.75644285

>Xenos detention subject
>Head in a jar without the jar and with handles
I guess that's an efficient way to do it

>> No.75644287

what's the worst case scenario?

>> No.75644288

That'd be thematic, or their special landing craft, dumping a unit of specialists into the heart/rear of the enemy along with a barrage of missiles and lascannons.

>> No.75644303
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What the fuck is this guy even talking about? What exactly does "sketching" a mini even do? Does painting wait on black primer really do all that much? I am just so confused. How does this come into play when using metallic acryllics too? Does it help at all? I wanted to get into using more blending etc but most of the guys I paint are mostly metallic. Like necrons and chaos space marines. What is this dude even talking about!?


>> No.75644308

So with the last of the Primaris rolling out either this year or the next, does this mean they only have HQs for all the Chapters left to update to the Primaris range?

>> No.75644318

loss of detail

>> No.75644321

wrong link. FUCK!


>> No.75644324
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>So with the last of the Primaris

>> No.75644339

I had heard that would happen with resin, but with plastic too?

>> No.75644344

>So with the last of the Primaris rolling out either this year or the next

>> No.75644348

>last of the Primaris
didn't jes say a year or two back they got enough primaris for a decade sketched out

>> No.75644354
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links to 3d file for this or something similar???

>> No.75644367

ask >>75620922

>> No.75644369

He's doing a brush on zenithal highlight, mostly of use with airbrushing or very thin layers.

>> No.75644370

Shapeways mi amigo

>> No.75644371

jesus how many times do you have to ask? yes the plastic melts and it ends up looking like as if someone had covered the model in many thick layers of grey paint.

>> No.75644378
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>that guard list
>2 company commanders, no command squad
>no commissar
>master of ordnance alongside a single artillery vehicle
>"Is it fluffy?"

>> No.75644423

Haven't tried it myself, but I'd certainly expect it to. Plastic's not metal, it's a chemical mix that reacts with others, much like resin.

>> No.75644425

I'm not >>75644287

>> No.75644426

So the new dark eldar/orks/admech models wont come out until next year? didnt they tease them first in like march?

>> No.75644440

They teased a ork last year

>> No.75644448

Sent :)

>> No.75644450
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Daily reminder that the painting handle is getting an update and your army is not.

>> No.75644456

How to sculpt fur if any space yiffs are interested

>> No.75644462

Not him but cut the deathwatch down to 1 killteam with the chaplain.
Have 1 company commander and don't bring master of ordnance with just 1 artillery piece.
Otherwise good

>> No.75644471
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real shit

>> No.75644487

Do you really think anyone browses 4chan without fucking video previews?

>> No.75644489

>Gabriel Angelos isn't in the compendium
Don't fucking do this to me geedubs I just bought him

>> No.75644494

if you cant sculpt fur off the get go you are braindead. as a 16 teen year old with horrible painting skills even i could green stuff fur

>> No.75644546

so feel like we know plenty of melee focused chapters in the lore, but what are some shooty ones?

>> No.75644553

Guard artillery regiments son!

>> No.75644560
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>> No.75644565

i really like this answer

a tithe of girls in exchange for holy protection

>> No.75644576

Who among the traitor legions might be capable of slaying any of the following in single combat:
>Avatar of Khaine

>> No.75644577
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why have Tau been hurt this edition? kind sad, they deserve high up in the rankings

>> No.75644596

No, dolphin laugh man, my army is getting a Palatine someday!

>> No.75644597

literally it was just the fly key word.

>> No.75644599

Partial to DA plasma gunlines myself.

>> No.75644626

>they deserve high up in the rankings

>> No.75644628

because objectives and points matter.

>> No.75644637

>he thinks there's gonna be a "last of" primaris
Sorry sweaty, theyre gonna keep pumping out primaris kits until it stops printing them money

>> No.75644639

given how each unit has no options its really easy to pump new ones out, i.e existing primaris + new wargear. we can probably expect jump pack intercessors and primaris hq's at some point and more bike hq's

>> No.75644644
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So the reason GW hasn't bothered with creating new plastic Imperial Guard models (that aren't HQs, full squads) is b/c of the already existing market of third-party IG models and bits? SoD's warcry bands gave me some hope they might create new regiment models.

>> No.75644661

What was their doctrine before?

>> No.75644688

Stealth suits should be great at the objective game with their decent troop removal power, good mobility and solid save.

>> No.75644689

didn't have one, people just wanted an op thing for their favorite army

>> No.75644705

Dark Angels, Iron Hands, Ultramarines,

>> No.75644706

No you are sweaty.

>> No.75644708

they're paper thin, but more importantly tau don't have any way to clear an objective and take it the same turn

>> No.75644714

no obsec, can't kill marines

>> No.75644715

>kind sad, they deserve high up in the rankings
no they don't

>> No.75644716


>> No.75644724

>Ignore casualties during the shooting phase
which wasn't great but had some nifty attributes; *the* shooting phase means overheating and dying wasn't a problem, and if an infantry squad was mowed down to a man on an objective then guess what, you hold it, which would sometimes force your enemies to move and get into melee or use psychic powers
secondaries need not apply

>> No.75644731

Like the idea but, you should have to have a non SM warlord imo.

>> No.75644733

>mfw when I am almost all of these in some way and collect Mordians

>> No.75644734

It's actually because the model team doesn't respect cruddace.

>> No.75644753

Gw lost a lot bc of the chapter house lawsuit.

>> No.75644756

So when they get a custom sept able to choose obsec on X unit and -1 extra ap they'll be good?

>> No.75644759

and smaller no man's land, smaller board, can't castle, objective heavy, and in melee 9th they have no decent fighters.

no interest beyond characters and GW can't stop masturbating to space marines

>> No.75644763

He's just making a manual zenithal highlight with his brush to hit all of the highest points of light before putting down his colors. He's right to call it sketching, it's very similar to how you'd sketch out the values on a drawing with pen or pencil. Also I don't know how the hell this is confusing you since he spells it out verbatim in the video, unless you're trying to shill, in which case neck yourself.

>> No.75644777
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And I'm retarded and forgot the image.

>> No.75644778

They deserve to drink diarrhea

>> No.75644781

maybe if burst cannons go to 2 damage
and they get a few extra attacks
along with obsec and the ap

>> No.75644789

Deathwatch seems like the most pointless of spacemarine armies. I don't understand why they are even a thing. Its the kind of thing that makes sense in the lore ...kind of but why the fuck they were ever put into the actual table top is beyond me.

Why even bother having chapters? Could just have grey knights and deathwatch.

>> No.75644806

apply yourself secondary shitter

>> No.75644824
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I guess what I don't get is how can a zenithal highlight help you if you are painting mostly metallics? When you finally paint over the zenithal highlight... does it even do anything on its own OR is it to help you make a mental note of the highest points of light etc?

>> No.75644828
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Tell me something about your dudes. Such as;
>What planet are they from?
>Who are their closest ally and enemy
>Who lead them into battle?

>> No.75644831

The new one is about as good. Your morale is a bit worse but now your guys won't run in combat as easily so your more likely to bog things down slightly and the extra shooting is handy.
Pretty much a side grade

>> No.75644835

Personally i think they should have just been an elite slot for troops choices like legion of the damned was. But since they wanted to expand them into an individual force, they should have shared a codex with grey knights.

>> No.75644845

Mostly plastic some of the older kits could use an update as their basic transport has mould slip and causes some gaps
>Blood Angels
Marines have been getting plenty of updates
>Word Bearers
outside of cultists and possessed they got plenty of updates recently with the CSM update

>> No.75644856

Please fucking kill yourself secondary retard.

>> No.75644881

Deathwatch are perfect for a boardgame or a video game.

It doesn't work on the tabletop.

>> No.75644883
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No, not even close. Pic related for the math about "extra shooty" lmao.
We literally break like everybody else now but the only modifier to combat attrition is when you're below half-strength, really impactful and fluffy.

>> No.75644892

>didn't name the planet because I am bad with names
>worst enemy is gene stealers and nids
>who leads them- Lord Solar Rounwythan
>black library
>Only more harlequins are their allies and their worst enemies have been literally everyone
>lead by Ronald McDonald

>> No.75644915

>Who leads them into battle
I have a deathjester that I run as the warlord for my Harlequins Masque of the Midnight Nova. I call him King Jaegerjaques.

>> No.75644918

>The new one is about as good.
Your tank has a 5/6 chance to then get a 1/2 chance to then get a 1/6 chance to land shots from its main battle-cannon (which doesn't get grinding advance), and you now run on 1's only in combat attrition after already failing morale, it's dead.

>> No.75644933

XCOM is essentially Deathwatch.

Get to work GW. Make it happen please...

>> No.75644963

>what planet are they from?
Mont'fio a colonized jungle death sept world
>Who are their closest ally and enemy
Closest ally, i guess is other tau as xeno race they don't really ally with anybody else in the galaxy
Enemy, is IG regiments and pdfs on surrounding planets in the system especially those with groups of catachan stationed.
>Who lead them into battle?
Shas'o Mont'fio Jila'nera Kessan J'Kaara
A newly promoted commander being given her first actual command Leading a small assortment of mechanized infantry

>> No.75644980
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All acrylic paint is translucent to a degree when thinned down, so yes. It stands out more in this specific video because he's using acrylic gouache which is made to be more transparent and work with this kind of highlighting but even dense metallics will show the primer's tones through somewhat. Obviously non-metallic metals will show through better but NMM is hard to learn for a lot of people and a lot of work to get a good look. Zenithal highlighting can be more than black and white too - you could zenithal a metallic over black to get a similar value range while preserving a more metallic shine.

>> No.75644982

But xcom is shit

>> No.75645000

Weird to see BA that high and especially Orks that low.

>> No.75645017

>What planet are they from?
Da big dust
>Who are their closest ally and enemy
>Who lead them into battle?
Currently lead by Speedboss Fragbad Flamespitta, but after a embarrassing complete mechanical failure of his Wartrike he's lost favour among the boys and many look to his former subordinate Big Mek, as his kits is always running smoothly.

>> No.75645020


Not the one from 1993.

>> No.75645021

real dunning-kruger hours

>> No.75645025

Yes unless he is your warlord, then you can give him the trait for free.

>> No.75645026

or long war

>> No.75645036

Second row, second from the right is great

>> No.75645054

No. Snow effects look like shit. Snowflakes aint that big.

>> No.75645056

>just fucking staple a knife onto that pulse rifle, nobody will notice

>> No.75645068

Wait, is the implication that they're using an Eldar's severed head for Warp-based communication? Cause that's metal as fuck.

>> No.75645070

Cool stuff dude. The red really works.

>> No.75645075
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What is the Imperium’s birth rate?

>> No.75645086

a trillion per second

>> No.75645101


Where's that from? Looks cool

>> No.75645105

Not high enough.

>> No.75645107

Guys, I noob.

Do you generally speaking want to have one large unit of melee models instead of 2 smaller units of equal number?

Reason why I'm asking is because if your squad of 4 charges into an enemy squad of 6, you can't (at least as much as I'm aware) have the other 4 model squad charge the same unit and even things out/annihilate the enemy squad. What's more likely to happen is that your smaller quad will get destroyed by the unit it charged and then the other 4 will have to move in to try to finish the job. Contrast this with just having one squad of 8 charge the 6 unit squad and you could 1) do more damage in the first fight phase and 2) it would leave less of the enemy left to fight back. Am I right in making this assumption?

>> No.75645109

WHC Facebook.

>> No.75645112

>What planet are they from?
O'Tau'ais sept. They are remnants from the 4th sphere, their ship got separated from other 4th sphere ships in the warp and they've ended up somewhere in the Imperium Nihilus cut off from the rest of Tau empire. Their home planet orbits around a super massive red giant, and the orbital period of their home world is over 9000 years long.

>Who are their closest ally and enemy?
They are completely cut off from allies, but they are subverting nearby imperial worlds to the tau empire. They are in a constant battle with local ad mech and Titan house holds since they are a source of rare materials that the Sept can use. The sept basically runs a lot of hit and run raids.

>Who leads them into battle?
Shas O'Hka. A Coldstar Commander who is known for devastating lighting strikes and raids. Though he is very hot blooded and likes to rush into battle.

>> No.75645131

Depends on whether you have good buffing units.

>> No.75645141

Smaller is generally better.

But Bigger units work better if you're going to be buffing them with strategems.

Its really dependent on how you want to play.

>> No.75645159

How many points/power is your typical game?
I prefer smaller games personally. 500 and 1000 are typical for me. 1500 on occasion, and 2000 is really rare. Like once a year my group will get together and do mini apocalypse, like 4000ish points.

>> No.75645185

You can charge one target with multiple units, it's just that you'll have to move them so that there's room for all of the units to have at least 1 model in base contact.

>> No.75645205

i only ever play 2000pts because thats what everyone else wants to play.

i think i prefer like 1500pts. its a bit faster and the board doesnt get so crowded.

>> No.75645222

>What planet are they from?
The majority of their recruits are vanished from the orphanages and military academies of an as-yet-unnamed death world that's about 60% seas and 38% forests leading to a strong focus on small unit tactics that mirror the ships and hunting parties of their culture.

>Closest Ally
A Flawless Host warband under Lord Ghostemane (twin lightning claws, Intoxicating Elixir, Ultimate Confidence)

>biggest enemy
toss-up between a particularly genestealery splinter of Hive Fleet Hydra, and an extremely mechanised Iron Warriors warband

>Who lead them into battle?
Chooma Eigh-Lannd, Winged Khorne Lord with Murdersword and I am Alpharius

>> No.75645248

>blood ravens
they're just blood ravens
>Thousand Sons
Those loyal to Ahriman, and those to magnus, are coming together for a new mission
they're loyalists
My archon survived the purge of the noble houses by becoming a wrack for some time. She now has mutated, worthless wings, and slowly built up her reputation again. I'd initially magical realmed my archon, but since the model was destroyed I'mma tone down the magical realm
Hive Fleet Grootslang seems to prefer sheer intimidation, heavily favouring fast carnifexes charging down the front lines, supported by hormagaunts and genestealers. They have very little shooting to speak of.
The People's Front of Juditia(not to be confused with the SPLITTERS in the Juditian People's Front) are a cult serving the hapless Primus, Brian, who steadfastly insists publically that he is NOT the messiah. They seek to overthrow the imperial forces of their home mining world of Juditia, because what have the imperials ever given them?
tl;dr a monty python themed GSC
The Armageddon 230th, the Emperor's COBRAAAAAAAAs, are a regiment of the imperial guard, seeded from a planet in the armageddon sector that follows a bizarre sect of the imperial cult. Viewing the God-Emperor of mankind as the Great Cobra, they are no less fanatical in their zeal to destroying His enemies. The Ordo Hereticus have performed multiple checks of their cult, but finding it close enough to the Imperial Truth, they are allowed to continue worshipping in their manner.
GI Joe COBRA-themed guard
Not quite sure yet. Intention is going to be a melee-focused list but I don't have a real army yet. They're the Danaca Dynasty though yes, it's an anagram for Canada.

and over in AoS
>Grove of the Coming Spring
With the end of winter comes new life, rebirth. So too will the sylvaneth return to the realms of mortals.

>> No.75645249

>yourdudes guard+yourdudes-ish krieg+mechanicus
>their planet is a collection of less of a dozen nation states of various types of government, they usually vote a planetary governor whos appointed for life, the place used to be a mechanicum colony back in the age of strife, but a successful rebellion pushed the martians out into their orbital stations, and a now considered saint magos vetoed glassing the planet with nukes till they reached a peace agreement with the mechanicus still occupying the stations of the plaents rings, which in ten millennias became a proto ringworld. every nation contributes to the tithe
>closest ally, dkk vets since after their first campaign they were deployed with them and suffered enough losses that they had to be merged into mixed divisions, leading to an exange of doctrines (dkk adopting mechanized warfare and the donut steel regiment adopting gear such as the lucius pattern rifle or getting into hazardous enviroment warfare)
>enemies: tau, they operate in the eastern fringes
>leaders: a triumvirate of a mechanicus archmagos, am lord commander and a rogue trader the three of them have the common interest in fuckmurdering an inquisitor that fucked them over int heir first operations

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>> No.75645280

With new MM buff, Martyred Lady will see some use because of Judith. 2 squad of MM retrib in HB immolators in a judith aura can deliver an alpha strike of 24 Melta shot Reroll 1's for hit and wound while being well protected first turn. And with judith on the table, easy 4++ for everyone.

>> No.75645295

I like 1500 to 2000+.

>> No.75645301

What's the purpose of assault squads?
Anti-infantry? Getting people stuck in melee?

I might get some by want to know how useless they are first before I get my hopes up

>> No.75645312

1,750 is the sweet spot.

>> No.75645316

For the love of god please just read the rules.
All charging units are able to fight first, unless the enemy 2cp's interrupts or has a special ability, read up on combat activation so you understand when you're units can fight vs when the enemy can.

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>> No.75645338

>What's the purpose of assault squads?
Ass raping shooty bois and capitalizing on they're mobility like taking far away objectives.

>> No.75645352

It’s from The Office.

>> No.75645367

haha jetpack go nyoom

>> No.75645392

Yea, reason why I asked was because I read that two units in melee combat can't be targeted by ranged weapons until one unit disengages or a unit gets annihilated. Then when I watched the official basic rules video by GW's 40k youtube channel they basically said that the melee/combat phase works the exact same way as the shooting phase (as in hit rolls, wounds, etc.) which confused me into thinking that only 2 units can engage in melee combat with each other and nobody else can jump in, ranged, melee or otherwise.

>> No.75645411

Ah, I only ever used them to throw melts bombs at things in DOW, so I didn't know how they translated to the table

Well I guess that's as good a reason as any to spend $38

>> No.75645440
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Why the fuck are recasters so hard to find

When did china cuckout on copyright infringement??

>> No.75645468

They're not that hard.

Also the megas are exactly why they're not immediately available

>> No.75645478

If give you the two that I know, but then people would call me a faggot and reply with that "reported" to get yous

>> No.75645486


Can't even use half the units in the game because taking them into games that small is an asshole move

>> No.75645504

My dudes are stormtroopers (scions as the models) known as Aqulian Shards that are recruited from all sorts of sources, such as guardsman, prisons, laborers, etc. Hand picked by officers already in the army. They are the personal army of an Ordo Xenos inquisitor. He specifically wanted to recruit from several sources, with the idea that the strongest aspects of the diversity would survive.
Their leader is Alaric Aurelius. He is an inquisitor of the Ordo Xenos who loves to plunder xenos tech.
They have an interesting relationship with the Mechanicus. Often selling Xenos tech to forge worlds that are more open to the idea.
Alaric loves to find Necron tech, so naturally they are a common enemy.

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>> No.75645585
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When will we get get plastic noise marines?

>> No.75645615

that's exactly why I like it, as long as there's a gentleman's agreement in place that no more than a quarter of your lists are objectively cancer, usually you trade a stomp each way and have 2 games of tense infantry cityfighting with the occasional beast or monster, and fairly often you have a game that's smashing your scary things into each other and 3 nice balanced ones
or we can get in a 2k game in the same amount of time which will usually lead to a unit shitting the bed so hard they get shelved indefinitely, several new grudges for the book, and has about a 50% chance of being a stomp that one player just has no fun during

>> No.75645638

when you print them yourself

>> No.75645643

someone in an earlier thread mentioned admech getting models in specialist games. is that just the blackstone stuff? I would love to have skitarii with alternate poses etc similar to DG mini releases

>> No.75645656

Based, 500pt is the best way to play.

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No, but they have some pretty rad resin models.

>> No.75645682

Is 2nd edition fun to play?
Is the oldest you should go back 3rd/4th?

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Craft world (insert name)
Ally, none yet
Enemy (insert race and/or event that massively fucked the craftworld)
Their leaders are wraithseer balthazar and farseer (insert name).

Im still working on the major stuff. But I think i came up with a tad more backstory I really like. Im thinking the wraith stuff and MAYBE a spiritseer are going to be the only original craftworlders that were there pre (insert event that fucked the craftworld). And everyone else either showed up during (insert event) or not to long after, maybe as reinforcements that came too late. Im still working on it though.

>> No.75645696

Ah ok, yeah nah.
The actually attacking part does work the same way as shooting(choose target/weapon, hit/wound/save rolls, etc.), the only thing a bit different is who you're eligible to attack.
The round a unit charges they can only attack who they've declared in their charge, but after that round they are able to attack whom ever they're locked in combat with, just like a unit that's been charged. Another important thing to not is that one unit can lock multiple enemy units in combat so long as they keep coherency, it's useful when you have a large mob to tarpit the enemy to stop them from shooting the next turn.
Here's a more in depth article about all that if you wanting a better understanding of assault tactics.

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Is it just me or does it seem like lore for the so called "Good Guys" just seems to be better than it does for the more unapologetic "Bad Guys" Like I prefer Dark Eldar on tabletop. But as far as lore goes there's very few stories or tidbits of lore I can even care about. Ya know?

>> No.75645728

Like the specific fast attack unit "Assault Squad?" Nothing. They're basically a legacy choice still around because they're an OG unit and their role has been entirely replaced by Vanguard Veterans or chapter specific units.

>> No.75645734

I'd rather have games around 1000-1500 points that are still fast but don't outright prevent taking a lot of models, rather than multiple "shitty but fast" games

>> No.75645745

I just noticed that the blood angels tactical squad isn't on the website anymore. Now I'm sad.

>> No.75645753

Aren't pretty much all miniature printers resin anon?

>> No.75645765

500pts is for brainlets

>> No.75645768

Was there a time in which they were good?

>> No.75645781

god, contrast on models with flat panels like this looks fucking terrible

>> No.75645798

8th is meh
7th is wtf is going on?! the eldar do what?!
6th getting a little hectic
4th is great

no idea how other editions play and 5th is just bad

>> No.75645801

That's not contrast

>> No.75645820

2nd edition is a lot of fun. It's still my favorite GW ruleset. But the rules are best suited for small games and particularly skirmish. I think Necromunda/Inquisimunda is the best way to play the 2nd ed. rules since you also have the campaign stuff. And the battle size is then perfect. Still there's a lot of neat and crazy stuff in 2n ed. 40k proper, Eldar Tank pop-up attacks, Multiple Ork weapons with crazy damage tables, Vehicle damage tables in general, bonkers wargear like Vortex and Virus Grenades. Just keep the games a little smaller, and don't expect balance.

>> No.75645829

meant for

>> No.75645852

lore is imperium (more specifically, space marine) wankery and you could make the argument that what was once satire is now clear delineation by GW to streamline the story into good vs bad.
the "NPC faction" thing might be a meme, but the way GW treats them is absolutely not that far off. it's not necessarily their fault though, look at AoS. 40k is just filled with space marine paypigs, and they have to cater to that audience.

>> No.75645853

not particularly. they're supposed to be speedy cheap units that can cross terrain easy, cap lightly or undefended objectives, and tie up shooting units that aren't good in melee. unfortunately, they're bad at that

>> No.75645864

Post models fuck boy.

>> No.75645873

with the buff to heavy boltors how are they going to balance autocannons because 15 pts for that profile is fucking ass.

>> No.75645877

But I shouldn't let the fact they're basically there just because they're iconic and not good keep me from getting some, right

>> No.75645886

>how are they going to balance autocannons
they're not

>> No.75645895

I want to say there were points in 3rd ed. when Blood Angels made good use of them, but I don't remember specifically.

>> No.75645904

if we assume that reaper autocannons are still 2x the shots for 0.5x the damage, it seems that they only got an additional AP
Autocannons don't get a good buff because space marines don't use them

>> No.75645908

I mean like I said in my initial post, that's what I've been doing (because we're playing a Crusade atm)
I just personally don't enjoy it as much as the rapidfire small games, and that's mostly because I really enjoy MSU's having some survivability and small speed/deployment shenanigans being disproportionately useful

yeah but filament can look fine, just not amazing on that scale

>> No.75645917

>Deathwatch only becomes an army in 2016
>calls me a secondary

k dood

>> No.75645931

You can get some and run them as Vanguard Vets with chainswords which is a perfectly okay unit.

>> No.75645934

well I guess that is on more useless weapon on the pile

>> No.75645966

what the point difference between the 2 now?
If they're still similar, and extra 12" range and str 7 is an alright trade off for 1 less shot.

>> No.75645995

That has nothing to do with anything cunt.

>> No.75646002

if you think they look cool, go for it. I have 30 of them and still want more because they're cool

>> No.75646005

>Vanguard Vets
But anon, I'm playing the dark green homos

>> No.75646021

Hey they still do stuff for Dark Angels specifically because DA can't take VV.

>> No.75646036

they are both 15 pts

>> No.75646039

HB and AC are the same cost.

>> No.75646059

So it's just a trade off for higher str/range for an extra shot now, what's the problem?

>> No.75646064

idk why you guys mock this, literally how 40k is IRL. Every single place.

>> No.75646071

lol cause its ass

>> No.75646087

Thanks for the input, retard.

>> No.75646088
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>Playing my DE vs some Tau
>Get my Incubi to charge one of his gunline
>Easy kills for me
>Driving home later that night
>Imagining in my head how the melee looked
Man, I love melee and I love Incubi. I think they're honestly the single coolest thing about Dark Eldar.

>> No.75646091

Not really. Anything they can do for DA is better performed by Plasma Inceptors or various Ravenwing Bikers.

>> No.75646092

>Noise Marines attacking
>Gouge out your ear drums
Now what fuckers?

>> No.75646119

if you are too inept to understand how irrelevant str 7 is you probably unironically run multi lasers

>> No.75646122

not sure if joking or retarded

>> No.75646134

>Plasma Inceptors
Melee dudes and plasma dudes are very different niches

>> No.75646142

Being deaf actually doesn't do anything from sonic blasters from still effectively killing you. According to their description they rupture organs and rip you apart with vibrations.

>> No.75646154

It's still a threshold breaker for a lot of heavy infantry, go back to wanking off to your mathhammer spread sheet.

>> No.75646160

>McNeil straight up ignored this in a story, and an Iron Hands who was already deaf tanked everything a Noise Marine gave him and just shot him in the head

>> No.75646200

>imperials get wanked so hard they ignore physics and all kinds of sense
Like you'd have to be a complete retard to think being deaf no sell sonic weaponry

>> No.75646209

When will they sell and deliever Imperial Armour book?

>> No.75646223

Partly weapon buffs. Heavy Bolters and Multi-meltas are actually really efficient weapons now and Sisters love em. Also important is the Bloody Rose rules actually turns the sisters melee units into powerhouses. Which is really important in 9th. They're kinda glass cannon compared to marines melee, but their offensive output is top notch. Plus they have cheap durable troops, great deep striking skirmishers, and one of the best main battle tanks around. And miracle dice are also a great army rule in the hands of a smart player. Basically they're just a really well rounded army with all the tools necessary to play 9th ed. missions.

>> No.75646224

If they haven't already announced it on community why do you us retards would know?

>> No.75646238

Pre-orders start this friday. So about a week after that?

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A fellow man of culture, though I wonder.
What color does Tau Blood actually have?

>> No.75646255

I hope the vendetta gets roving gunship

>> No.75646292

"Assault Squad" aren't really melee dudes. That's the problem. One of the things an Assault squad can do is operate as deep striking skirmishers. And Inceptors are generally better for that role.

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I honestly have no idea but I just imagine it as red for simplicity

>> No.75646341

I'm building a waifu detachment for my army. Which is better the bolter or the melta?

>> No.75646376

no one


thinks grey knights are that high

>> No.75646380

Maybe next year.

>> No.75646381


>> No.75646382

>Whats better, the anti armor weapon or the anti infantry weapon
Gee anon

>> No.75646411

I need to get an ancient for my DA
Should I get the (finecast) one GW currently sells or kitbash my own?

If the latter, how would I do that? Just get some veterans and make a toothpick-paper standard for him? What about the others?

>> No.75646477

Both are good. As are Storm Bolters/Meltaguns. It just depends on what you want that squad to do. Heavy Bolters are for killing marine infantry. Multi-meltas are for fucking big targets.

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You'll take your mono-pose $36 model and you'll like it.

>> No.75646549

>Assault squad aren't melee
Okay pal

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That sounds rather boring.
How do you paint a colorfull picture when you kill Tau and their Mon'keigh auxilliary if its both red.

>> No.75646651

They are easy. I found a site just googling.

>> No.75646733

what search terms did you use?

>> No.75646885

damn those incubi are hot as heck

i really should get a 10 man squad of those boys

>> No.75646928

What, they are totally loyal. Just like Dork angles.

>> No.75647504

Not in 1993.

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