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Laughably meh spoilers edition

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last thread >>74742900

thread question: How are you liking the spoilers so far? Have your hopes been met? Have your fears been confirmed? Does return to return to Zendikar do justice to the plane, or is the one-set-blocks format too tight to really showcase all of the potential?

>> No.74759145

First for fuck mtg
Sell out as long as you can

>> No.74759148

>>74759126
>TW
who cares?

>> No.74759182

>>74759148
i'm interested, because im secretly a WotC employee working for the datamining branch.
Please be honest when answering the TQ, or else i'll throw all of your answers to the recycling bin and bullshit some "all customers are satisfied" nonsense

>> No.74759209

>>74759182
tell your masters that I will purchase a case of every non-commander set they put out for the next 5 years but in exchange I want maro's head and the return of my foreskin

>> No.74759290

>>74759126
>TQ
Happy with spoilers because nothing seems too game breaking so far.

>> No.74759349

>>74759126
>TQ
Absolutely loving the lower power level

>> No.74759353

>>74759290
You're falling for the trap. You are happy because this set isn't as bad as the last 2 years of absurd sets but the game is already in ruins. In flames. And those cards aren't going away

>> No.74759365
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Anyone want to provide feedback on my cube list?
https://www.cubecobra.com/cube/list/chez
I'm aiming for a mid-power experience, where card synergies usually outweigh independently powerful cards, while also limiting the quantity of rares and mythics. Let me know if any cards, colors, or strategies look specifically overpowered compared to other options.

>> No.74759374

TQ
The fucked up political shit, corporate culture, and dozens of design fuck ups that effect every format can not be turned back.

>> No.74759382

>TQ
Party is really lame but at least they haven't shown anything super retarded and broken yet. I think.
I've never been super fond of Zendikar.

>> No.74759385

>>74759290
>>74759353
keep in mind that modern horizons 2 comes out next year...
they're softening us up so that they can rip us a new one next year

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>> No.74759439
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74759439

Party up

>> No.74759546

>>74759439
nice flavor text, would be nicer without the "as circumstances demand" bit

>> No.74759767

>>74759439

intense flavor fail

>> No.74759792

>>74759439
Christ, just reprint Changeling, you cowards.

>> No.74759795

>>74759439
>A valuable companion to carry your loot or your body back home
hire me wizzards

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>>74759439
>a brainless mule robot can be a wizard but you can only steal shit
>he also does your job
>and two more

>> No.74759827

>>74759813
dps are a diamond dozen

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Daily reminder that Skyclave Apparition is the real deal and gives a flicker style deck a great boost. Archon of Emeria is great too, because it puts the Eidolon of Rhetoric/Ethersworn Canonist effect into the maindeck. I am really looking forward to playing this version with the new cards. They are both seriously powerful. That said, I'm glad the set so far has a slightly lower power level (barring a couple specific insane cards) because that means future standard and future impact these standard legal sets have on eternal formats might be more reasonable.

4 Aether Vial
3 Giver of Runes
4 Thalia
4 Leonin Arbiter
3 Spirit of the Labyrinth
2 Phyrexian Revoker
3 Flickerwisp
3 Eldrazi Displacer
3 Skyclave Apparition
2 Blade Splicer
2 Mirran Crusader
2 Aven Mindcensor
2 Archon of Emeria

4 Ghost Quarter
2 Field of Ruin
2 Horizon Canopy
2 Geir Reach Sanitarium
1 Eiganjo castle
2 Mutavault
1 Shefet Dunes
2 Scavenger Grounds
6 Plains

3 Selfless Spirit
4 Kor Firewalker
4 Leonin Relic-Warder
1 Devout Lightcaster
2 Fiend Hunter
1 Rest In Peace

>> No.74759838

>>74759439
This is fucking awful. Really shows how little thought they put into the mechanic.

>> No.74759840

>>74759829
Shut the fuck up Kooba nobody cares

>> No.74759870

That new lynx looks like my boyfriends fursona

>> No.74759876
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>>74759829
>Daily reminder
There is only one reminder I care about tbdesu
>friendly, daily and threadly reminder that wotc is de facto printing an illegal cryptocurrency where prices are kept artificially inflated due to artificial scarcity and insider trading that gets distributed through lottery tickets and lootboxes and that they spend, all costs included, 2 cents per card to print them

>> No.74759882

>>74759829
based. keep making doomposters seethe by actually talking about the game.

>> No.74759902

>>74759882
Stop talking to yourself koober

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>>74759365
Gruul smash. Looks fun

>> No.74760169

>>74759870

trolling should be subtle

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>>74759126
How widespread is this seething sentiment? At my LGS, people are livid over the D&D crossover and the double Innistrad vampire vs werewolf sets.

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>>74759876
When will the bubble finally pop?
How hard will prices crash when it happens?
Will Rudy commit sudoku with his special tool?
Personally I think it might actually happens this November with Trump reelection. People will dump their overpriced cardboard in exchange for canned food, water, guns and ammo to fight off blm zombies and looting joggers.

>> No.74760903
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>>74759382
Guess again

>> No.74760962

>>74760834
I hated the Godzilla crossover with passion but I am actually kind of hype for the forgotten realms crossover. It works in the scope of magic, it can be just another plane and it will be cool to see the big names getting cards.

>> No.74760975

>>74760834
>At my LGS, people are livid over the D&D crossover and the double Innistrad vampire vs werewolf sets.
Why those specifically? Why are those the straw that break the camel's back for normies?

>> No.74760994

>>74760903
I mean Fiend artisan was hyped and see no play either.

>> No.74761023

>>74760903
Nah dude this isn't broken, it has no inherent protection, will almost never drop on turn 2, requires that you suicide yourself *and* keep pressure on the opponent's life total to remain relevant. In a format with Uro and a shitton of incidental lifegain, this guy has no place.

>> No.74761027

>>74760962
Mtg was originally an offshot from DnD and meant to be a quick game in-between sessions.
We have come full circle.
This game was never meant to be collectable nor competitive. Yet, look where we are now.

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>>74761023
Add this plus lifegainand set the world on FIRE.

>> No.74761041

>>74760873
it will never pop, rudolf and friends are staying the course, firing on all cylinders, they're balls deep in the reserved list, pounding her as hard as possible. She begs for release, begs them to stop, but they pound her even harder, till nothing is left to pound. the destination is moon , then mars, and then even further. A foil academy rector will do well in feeding your family in the future. And a foil grim monolith might even power your starship a hundred years into the future. The future my friend, yes, that is the reserved list, and it's up to YOU to invest right NOW and catch that last ticket to the moon and beyond.

>> No.74761151

>>74759414
Remember that this is okay because Magic is Commander now.

>> No.74761200

>>74761040
I dunno, this still seems like a lot of work to pull off reliably

>> No.74761217

>>74759126
>is the one-set-blocks format too tight to really showcase all of the potential?
My fucking christ yes. Flavour and storytelling are dead at this point.

>> No.74761233

>>74761217
These 1 set blocks are just dreadful because even if the story is interesting it's so rushed that there is no way it can be done satisfactorily and then you're zooming off to the next place. But I wonder if they could even still write a good storyline, with the way things are going. Their writing has been so shit for so long.

>> No.74761488

>>74759439
>-Avengers
>-Shrek
>-Attack on titan
>-Isekai (""rpg adventures"")
Can't wait for the "guild" and "quest" mechanics in the dnd set.... So shallow... so tiresome.

>> No.74761626

>>74761488
It's not isekai it's just shitty D&D and then later on we're going to the actual literal D&D plane

>> No.74761702

>>74759126
That's a great pic and I hate that I don't have any friends into both Magic and Uzaki-chan to share it with.

>> No.74762194

>>74760903
This is based, not broken

>> No.74762413

>>74759353
I am only happy for the status of the product since it looks like my 1 deck will be safe and not phase out or have stuff banned. I'm still not gonna buy product and fuck WotC.

>> No.74762453
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74762453

Imagine being worked into a shoot seethe because another format exists

Imagine being worked into a shoot seethe because modern is a dead format now lmao

>> No.74762505

Every format now is so unbelievably awful I can't believe it

>> No.74762507

>oh boy spoiler season!
>another set that doesn't explain it's own mechanics just like companion
So you can just play either side of these >land cards?
Why not TELL US on the fucking cards what the cards do?

>> No.74762538

>>74762507
So they can make rules changes later without having to make errata.

>> No.74762552

>>74762507
You choose one side or the other, and the "front" side determines what the card is treated as in every zone other than on the battlefield. Welcome to the era of being able to Thoughtseize your opponent's land drops.

>> No.74762562

>>74762507
The worst part of the explaining was mutate.
>it only removes the top creature
>NO, it removes the entire stack
And that’s just explaining the mevhanic on a vacuum

>> No.74762572
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>>74762538
The absolute state of wizards.
The only mechanic I remember having to look up was cipher. The card's still told you what it did, it was just a confusing ability to read as a newbie.

>>74762552
Fucking hell

>> No.74762610

>>74762505
Just play peasant lemao

>> No.74762616
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74762616

>choose any number
I choose 30.

>> No.74762776

>>74762552
>Welcome to the era of being able to Thoughtseize your opponent's land drops.
If your opponent is banking that hard on their DFC taplands it's their own fault if you ask me.

>> No.74762794
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>>74762616
>i cast inscription of ruin for 4BBB, you discard 10 cards, i return 5 creatures with cmc 2 from my graveyard and destroy 5 creatures you control with cmc 3

>> No.74762806

>>74762616
I like this card, even if only from the illustration.
Black is so aesthetic

>> No.74762863

>>74759876
This guy is based.

>> No.74762896

>>74762453
edh trannies are used to seething every game

>> No.74762949

Why does Magic Arena run so badly?
This game is literally not playable.

>> No.74762963

>>74759876
>whenyoucastzenithflare.jpg

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>>74759829
>Skyclave Apparition
Sorry kooba, but the card is kinda shit

>> No.74763265

>>74763260
let him dream

>> No.74763305
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Is it just me or is she kind of fat?

>> No.74763328

>>74761041
based und rudolfpilled

>> No.74763411
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>>74763305
holy shit they post-walled nahiri so god damn hard, she look like a mix of fat walmart pleb and cool wine aunt

>> No.74763427

>>74763305
Thicc ;)

>> No.74763432

>>74763411
That's not Nahiri it's just some random kor fatass even though kor are a race of people who do the most athletic thing possible all day every day

>> No.74763490

>>74763432
overweight badasses are the wave of the future!

>> No.74763514

>>74763432
>'it's genetic bruv!'

>> No.74763568
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>>74760903
>literally a standard legal one shot combo with terror of the peak
i can't wait for the shitshow frens :3

>> No.74763587

>>74763432
>Race that lives by climbing and adventuring in a chaotic floating world
>Fat
I didn't want to remember...

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>>74763305

>> No.74763661

>>74763568
Only if your opponent is at 20 or less life and actually lets you keep your dragon in play and resolve a 7 mana creature. Sounds about as "broken" as underworld dreams+peer into the abyss, i.e. not at all.

>> No.74763671
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>>74760903
>take death's shadow
>add a kicker effect
>make it mythic
Mythic rarity is the numero uno worst thing to happen to Magic

>> No.74763692

>>74763661
let me dream about my shitshow already!

>> No.74763732

>>74763568
Are you retarded? Its only a OHKO if you're both sub-10.
Its power is defined by the current boardstate in all zones. Hell even if it did read like deaths shadow it wouldnt work that way bevause deaths shadow enters the battlefield with a modified p/t.

>> No.74763746

>>74763732
Oh right kicker, nevermind it turns out it was *i* who was the retarded

>> No.74763779

>>74763746
it's ok bro, we all are the retards sometimes

>> No.74763822
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>>74763671
>Mythic rarity is the numero uno worst thing to happen to Magic
No, it's this piece of kike shit

>> No.74763912

>>74763822
This pic is hilarious on so many levels

>> No.74764104

>>74760903
one step closer to making Suicide Black viable, but still not quite there

>> No.74764141

>>74763305
>she
Did you just assume...

>> No.74764233

>>74763305
Impressive how green has gone from naturalize to naturalize with cycling and white is still stuck with this shit LOL

>> No.74764245

>>74764233
It also has Naturalize with GY hate tacked on

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1B, Sac another creature: put a +1/+1 counter on Skyclave Shadowcat
Whenever a creature you control with a +1/+1 counter on it dies, draw a card.

>> No.74764287

>>74759439
What's the point in making a mechanic around specific types if everyone just slap a 2 mana common artifact into their deck?

>> No.74764363

Why couldn't white get Disenchant with cycling?

>> No.74764584

>>74764363

Fuck white.

>> No.74764659

>>74763568
huh?

>> No.74764668

>>74760873

Never. This is exactly how power went from $150 to $1500 and later how duals went from $20 to $200. You missed the gaintrain. If you want a ride you'll be waiting for pioqueer to rotate out.

>> No.74764743

>>74760903
Hello, baddy!

>> No.74764778

>>74761041

This guy gets it

>> No.74764792
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>>74761023
>Nah dude this isn't broken, it has no inherent protection
how absolo-god-damned-lutely FUCKED Magic has gotten where this statement can actually be real

>> No.74764875

>>74764233
White had been lost for some time.They don't know what to do besides weenie, and stax is out of the question because it is "unfun"

>> No.74764939

>>74760903
>Death's Shadow
leg it one of the best form-and-function flavor home runs of all time

>This card
>ha ha demon go succ

if there has ever been such a stark example of the downgrading in MTG lore/flavor/design before, I don't know it.

>> No.74764949

>>74764875

Unfun is in white's pie and the entire color has no place in magic. Literally the only thing that design is doing right.

>> No.74765012
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>>74764233
>>74763305
Today I will remind them

>> No.74765022

>>74765012
but why

>> No.74765097

is death's shadow fun?
sometimes I think about playing it. I have most of the cards but then I think about how burn is half the format

>> No.74765113

>>74765097
but anon, the burn only makes it stronger

>> No.74765164

>>74765097
Death's Shadow has a great matchup vs burn mate. that's the point of the deck.

>> No.74765182

>>74765164
>>74765113
how does it do against uro?

>> No.74765212

>>74765012
>design a white card
>make it green

>> No.74765217

>>74765182
Terribly, just like every other deck.

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>>74763822

>> No.74765284

>>74765257
Manlets really are the worst.
I understand now why Storm is called the manlet deck.

>> No.74765298

>>74765284

Nah boi the tallcount is at one

>> No.74765304

>>74765284
Nah man I'm 5'9 and I play Gifts. He doesn't represent us.

>> No.74765325

>>74765304

>under six thinks it's a person

Oof

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>>74765304
>I'm 5'9

>> No.74765431

What deck should a 6'1" chad such as myself play?

>> No.74765445

>>74765431

Shorties like you play burn or whatever

>> No.74765454

>>74765431
None. "Chads" don't play Magic.

>> No.74765564

>>74759795
Under-fucking-rated comment, anon.

Regarding the party mechanic placeholder rules text, why didn't they just say "If your party contains less than 4 creatures, this can be a member of your party"? Gets around making a robot mule a fucking wizard.

>> No.74765625

Manlets in my experience play stuff like Jund or some other midrange deck and complain about every other deck that isn't midrange.

>> No.74765626

>>74765564
Because they're idiots.
It's sad that randos on 4chan can write better flavor text than WotC while shitposting.

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>>74762562
Mutate was fine but apparently we can't have regeneration anymore. Hell, Mutate made Banding look simplistic.

>> No.74765753

>>74765681
>Mutate made Banding look simplistic.
mutate made the entire game of Magic altogether before it look simplistic, anon.
It wasn't just the most complex mechanic ever, it was complex to the extreme. No other mechanic has SO MANY rules questions that have to be answered in regards to it.
It was so bad, the article WotC released explaining it had errors in explaining how it functioned.

>> No.74765778

>>74765625
But I play Jund and I'm 5'10.

>> No.74765819

>>74765778
anon...

>> No.74765830

>>74765819
The 6'0 cutoff is just a dumb /fit/ meme. Manlets are noticeably short like 5'4 or below.

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>>74765778
>5'10

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>Forgotten Realms set in 2021
>an mtg expansion in pretty much the original dnd setting/plane.
Mtg is pretty much going into a renaissance by going back to its roots of classical fantasy. Why is no one excited about this?

>> No.74765952

don't reply to it

>> No.74765960

>>74765937
>Why is no one excited about this?
Because they aren't going back to OSR 70s D&D. They're going to 5e "race has no modifiers and 50 pages of the Player's Handbook are dedicated to choosing your backstory with no gameplay impact" snowflake Forgotten Realms. This has NOTHING to do with classical fantasy, anon.

>> No.74765962

>>74764257
finally a decent art

>> No.74765992

>>74765952
you can't tell me what to do!

>> No.74766018

>>74765937
Anon, why don't you go take a spin around the 5e generals and find out what they think?

>> No.74766038

>>74765962
>monster that literally looks like it was crafts project made with a potato on more generic dark brown ruins
>decent art

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>>74765962
>Doesn't look like a Manilla Road Album Cover
>Decent

>> No.74766177

>still no decent vampires
>in a "zendikar" set
Really hope tomorrow is the day, i start to lose patience

>> No.74766184

>>74765937
>its roots of classical fantasy
The only thing cool about old magic is how worn/gritty/dark it was. Worn aesthetic is the exact opposite of approachable, since it makes it feel like it's an old thing where you need to learn lots of history to understand. This means they won't have any of that old worn-down artifact aesthetic.
Literally everything else about the classical fantasy setting was garbage along the lines of the jacetice league (fuck the Weatherlight) is now, so there's not any real possibility of anything improving.

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>>74766184
this, gimme back my fucking dark aged left hand path grimoires, until then their "fantasy" can fuck off

>> No.74766413

>>74766125
eh, i prefer Cirith Ungol desu

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>>74762794

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74766625

>>74761702
me too, man, me too.

>> No.74766816

>>74759876
W...wait!
This guy isn't me! D:

>> No.74766893

>>74760873
>pyramids is almost 900 burgers
what the fug man I saw this for like 300 leafs not even a year ago

>> No.74766916
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>> No.74766926

>>74766916
>top of library
at least if it was to hand it might have had a chance of being playable somewhere but this is pretty shit

>> No.74767252

>>74766916
I wonder if this used to return to battlefield before they depowered the set.

>> No.74767261

>>74765830
but, why would anonymous people on the internet ever lie to me?

>> No.74767346

>>74766916
skeletons are cool

>> No.74767402

>>74766916
CCP does not approve! >:(

>> No.74767418

>>74766916
>>74767402
what will the CCP approved art be?

>> No.74767440
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>>74767418
Something like this.

>> No.74767494

>>74767440
Is purple also taboo in china or something, why make him blue

>> No.74767533

>>74765681
>Why yes, I did put illegal cards in my main deck to have them changed midgame as a midgame sideboard strat
Fucking companion. If I play a black lotus in my modern deck I get a DQ but if I play 2 lightning bolts in my singleton deck I get a free sideboard

>> No.74767535

>>74767402
the chinese art censorship hasn't been an issue for a while. they mostly do it to bully foreign companies. it's very inconsistent. wotc and hasbro are probably at a place where the chinese have given them carte blanche.

>> No.74767584

>>74767533
Wait what

>> No.74767590

>>74765284
>tfw dredge player
>tfw 6'1''
>tfw extremely antisemitic

>> No.74767605

>>74759126
Fucking finally, a set that doesn't scream broken garbage.

>> No.74767620

>>74767584
According to official rules, if say you're playing Lurrus and you have a ravenous baloth in your deck (cmc4) you don't get a game loss or DQ you get a warning, then you have to stop and remove all cards in your deck that don't qualify for your companion and replace them for sideboard cards that do.
So basically you get free sideboarding.
Nobody shitposted with this in a tournament because of covid.
Companion and deck building restrictions are fucking stupid if I am not allowed to demand a deck check, that said, if you play with a companion deck you should demand a deck check always, this triggers the shit out of kooba btw, because he doesn't understand how easy it is to cheat with this since he only plays arena.

>> No.74767908

>>74767620
>According to official rules, if say you're playing Lurrus and you have a ravenous baloth in your deck (cmc4) you don't get a game loss or DQ you get a warning, then you have to stop and remove all cards in your deck that don't qualify for your companion and replace them for sideboard cards that do.
Wow, that's fucked. I love it.

>> No.74767915

>>74767908
Aye, mind you, this was clarified because everyone assumed it was a DQ, like as said, if you put a blotus in your modern deck you get DQ'd or it is replaced by a basic land, buuuut not here.

>> No.74767948

>>74767620
Or, you can just choose to not cast it from your sideboard so you can negotiate if to have a companion or not, that's like, 3 layers of cheating and we still have autists that complain about mana weaving even of you shuffle the deck after or uncommon prints of pauper legal cards.

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>> No.74767990

>>74767948
>or uncommon prints of pauper legal cards.
Thats a matter of principle not a matter of cheating

>> No.74767997

>>74767990
Of course, in the spirit of pauper you always pick the cheapest, shittiest print possible.
Why yes, my deep hour ninjas are spanish salvat white bordered.

>> No.74768000

>>74767990
That's a matter of autism.

>> No.74768047

>>74767494
>purple also taboo in china
Its a old meme but it checks out. China has a taboo on purple.

>> No.74768050

>>74767997
>still waiting for the reprint of quirion ranger, priest of titania, thorn of the dusk rose, preordain, delver of secrets and fully upgraded pauper challenger decks in place of the shitty, worthless, useless, nonsensical planeswalker decks aimed at 13y olds and their grandmas

>> No.74768068

>>74767948
>mana weaving even of you shuffle the deck after
If you shuffle afterwards then whats the point of weaving in the first place?

>> No.74768076

>>74768068
I have autism.
I personally re-order my cards so the names are properly oriented, my sleeves are opaque and monocolor.

>> No.74768089

>>74768068
Reducing the number of shuffles i have to do once i pick up the clump of lands between games, if my opponent is an autismo lord i can just shuffle longer but he would bitch eventually about how long i take to shuffle.
It's a lose-lose situation, the only proper response is beating them with a stick.

>> No.74768107

>>74761041
Imagine thinking this
Who buys the cardboard they're out of reach for anyone except other collectors?
Assets without liquidity are practically non assets.

>> No.74768142

>>74765564
because it mechanically being 5 creature types also matters sooooo why not just do that

>> No.74768218

>>74765454
Those days are over bro, right now the price alone filters non chads from playing the game.

>> No.74768231

>>74768107
Noooo don't bring logic my investerinos I am a real wolf of wallstreets!

>> No.74768235

>>74768089
lol. If you need to weave to unclump your lands you're not shuffling properly, you dirty cheater.

>> No.74768347

>>74767997
>spanish salvat white bordered
utterly based

>> No.74768372

>>74768235
I can just shuffle longer you retarded troll, but you're gonna keep your whore mouth shut and wait until i'm done shuffling.

>> No.74768397

>>74767983

monowhite will NEVER be playable in any relevant format ever again

>> No.74768447

>>74768397
good

>> No.74768494

>>74767983
Party is such an unfathomably uninteresting and retarded mechanic.

I wonder if the person that came up with OMGKITTENS also came up with this abomination.

>> No.74768621

>>74768372
>He sucks at shuffling
ngmi

>> No.74768660

>>74767983
that art is terrible wtf

>> No.74768673

>>74768660
I honestly thought it was an uncard.

>> No.74768680

>>74768673
it's a still shot from that fucking japanese game show where people have to fit through the wall like what is this crap!?

>> No.74768715

>>74768680
I'm trying to read it but i can't tell if he was thrown through the wall or the wall was exiled with him.

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>>74768673
Same here, there was a very similar one in a recent unset if I recall correctly.
Maybe I can dig it up

>> No.74768759
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>>74768725
Reminder that unsets are here to prepare us for the clownworld that is new mtg sets

>> No.74769033

>>74763822
is this unit moviebob?

>> No.74769036

>>74763822
Someone please add Yu-Gi-Oh to his hand, out of reach for magiclets

>> No.74769051
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Is that a strictly better Guide?

>> No.74769059

>>74769051
Imaging attacking with both T1. Consider your board state afterwards.

This should tell you the answer.

>> No.74769069

>>74769036
Do it yourself, if you're so great

>> No.74769101

>>74769051
isn't lack of goblin type a big detriment?

>> No.74769107

>>74769051
It's not a goblin guide.
You can have some memes with it mid game because of the return clause.

>> No.74769127

>>74767983
is this an un card

>> No.74769150

>>74769051
No, it's a strictly worse Guide. How bad are you at mtg to ask this question?

>> No.74769177

>>74769150
>trample
>landfall shenanigans
>can let you reuse the new dfc spell/lands

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>>74769069
k
sorry for shit quaity, exceling at work here, and also not that good with graphic tools

>> No.74769216

>>74769051
Holy shit, this is a nice one drop for red.

>> No.74769219
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>>74769185
fixed some issues

>> No.74769221

>inb4 amulet reprint

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>>74767983
>it is actually an UN card
>Like no joke, "Party" is a major UN-mechanic tier shit
>That art

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>>74769051
>landfall just got landier.

>> No.74769290

>>74766916
Wait are we still on Ravnica?

>> No.74769295

>>74769280
>the landoliers

>> No.74769349

>>74767997
Hey, salvat white bordered are based and i use them in every deck i can

>> No.74769470

>>74769051
Seems like complete garbage tbdesu.

>> No.74769757

>other formats that don't have their own thread
So this can be the /limited general/ too?

>> No.74769807

>>74769757
Yes

>> No.74769831

>>74769757
Go ahead, we could talk about an alive format for once

>> No.74769838

>>74769757
Yeah sure friend, but only good limited formats.

>> No.74769897

Have they spoiled the TN card yet or are they saving it to dump with the commons to minimize backlash?

>> No.74769909
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based murdoch

>> No.74769930

>>74769897
TN card?

>> No.74769946

>>74769930
Terese Nielsen. Unless I'm crazy jotc said she had art in this set

>> No.74769947

>>74769838
But what if I want to talk about M21, Amonkhet Remastered and Ikoria?

>> No.74769960

>>74769947
those aren't real Magic sets, anon.

>> No.74769972

TQ:
the land/spells are a little bit scary, they could break formats if done wrong.
red got some nice new cards
white got 1 good stax creature and not much else
>justice to the plane
i dont think this is possible on the second return to a plane
>>74769838
how would you define "good limited formats"
im working on my cube and could use some input. How many turns should a game go? Should it be easy to splash colors? Should combo be a valid option?

>> No.74769980

>>74769946
Oh I completely forgot about that. I thought it was some supposed new rarity or booster pack or whatever.

>> No.74769987

>>74769807
>>74769831
OK and separate from any format >>74769897 how do you deal with an idiot who always wanted to draft the same color combo at the table? We have a guy like this at our store. It's not a big problem, it means he typically drafts a worse deck if he's being cut, but it is a problem because everyone knows he's trying to draft those colors and he's effectively cutting other people when he has no reason to.

It's usually something slow and grindy in the format like UB or BG and that feels extra bad because often those decks need a bit of care to come together, whereas you can kind of draft a generic aggro deck out of an average pile. Knowing this dude poaches your signpost card or payoff for no fucking reason is so frustrating.

>> No.74769995

>>74769987
tell him to stop being a dick or you guys aren't going to play with him anymore

>> No.74769999

>>74769972
Red's looking really spicy coming out of Ikoria. Not necessarily super strong just really interesting.

>> No.74770011

>>74769995
It's a weekly store event, the story isn't going to ban one of their most regular draft players. Unfortunately.

>> No.74770017

>>74769947
>M21
It was average
>Amonkhet Remastered
Pretty nice, except for all the Amonkhet overpriced effects
>Ikoria
Self-balancing limited, pretty nice with mutate

>> No.74770028

>>74769987
Just learn to play around him
It's an easy win

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>>74770017
>Self-balancing limited

>> No.74770038

>>74769987
You should get everybody else who regularly plays in the store together and viciously hatedraft against him so it's impossible for him to ever win.
It's up to you whether or not to tell him why.
He will learn or die.

>> No.74770040

>>74770017
>Self-balancing limited
t. Tour de france

>> No.74770051

>>74769987
Tell him to talk to his therapist about his obsession with gb grindrange

>> No.74770053

>>74770017
>Self-balancing limited
Also known as "one thing is so fucking overpowered that the more people force it the worse it gets". There was nothing special about it. You could literally make that statement about any colour combination in the game in a draft.

Ikoria was just really badly designed. That's all.

>> No.74770060

>>74770017
Amonkhet Remastered is basically the most fun I've had with an aggro format in limited.

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>>74770017
>self-balancing limited

>> No.74770078

>>74770035
>>74770040
The cycle deck being overpowered means several players will try to force it, diluting the cycle cards between them
Also some of the cycle cards have uses outside of that deck, which means they're going to be picked by noncycle players, further diluting the cards
The result is that none of the cycle players have a good cycle deck

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>>74770017
>Self-balancing limited

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>>74770078
>zenith flares your post

>> No.74770121

>>74770078
>The cycle deck being overpowered means several players will try to force it, diluting the cycle cards between them
Don't you understand that this applies to literally everything in every draft ever?

If it's too strong it risks being diluted between too many players, making it weak.

If it's weak no one wants it so someone gets all of it, making it decent.

Only retards think this statement is special in regards to Ikoria.

>> No.74770136

>>74770103
>Not first picking Flare so you can play a fun mutate deck
>>74770121
That's exactly my point, "Ikoria limited is bad because Cycle is overpowered" is a stupid statement
Cycling for 1 mana is still a mistake though

>> No.74770165

>>74770136
>That's exactly my point, "Ikoria limited is bad because Cycle is overpowered" is a stupid statement
What's stupid is claiming that "Ikoria has a self-balancing limited format, thus was good". EVERY limited format is self-balancing. It's fucking inherent in a draft you blathering fool.

If the best thing you can say about a format is that an inherent property of it was present, then it WAS shit.

>> No.74770187

think about this for a second
there is a guy saying ikoria limited, which features the strongest draft archetype in the history of the game by several orders of magnitude, is balanced because everyone has to hatedraft 1 archetype or automatically lose to it. large portions of your deck are gimped as a given because you need to take every cycling card you see.
you can tell, by your own visceral reaction, that this guy is making a very stupid statement. everyone thinks this person is stupid. there is really no disagreement. it's one contrarian idiot. this person is either retarded, or they are trolling, which is "pretending" to be retarded, which is functionally the same to you as them being retarded.
don't engage with retards, they seek only to waste your time.

>> No.74770192

I've seen people picking flare just to cuck the smartasses that were going cycling.
Broken format, unironically unplayable for both sides, cycling deck or not.
Seethe and cope wotc shills, fuck you.

>> No.74770199

>>74770165
I was preemptively attacking the complaints people like you would make
I also said that mutate was fun
>>74770187
>everyone has to hatedraft 1 archetype or automatically lose to it. large portions of your deck are gimped as a given because you need to take every cycling card you see.
That's not even close to what I said
Cycle players hatedraft themselves

>> No.74770204

>>74770187
It's probably limited's Kooba.

>> No.74770228

>No, no you see you HAVE to pick cycle cards
>So you can play a "fun" deck with world's most wtf-tier mechanic (mutate)
>Otherwise the cycle player kills you with it
>This is good
Am I having a stroke?
Like actually are limited players this stupid? Is this your logic? "Nah just draft the cycle's deck not OP finishers so you can win... with other decks lol".
if I am drafting zenith flares already, so other players don't get them, hence hate drafting, why the fuck wouldn't I play cycle too?
Specially since like, half of the common cards cycle for 1?

>> No.74770233

Watching this troll defending Ikoria made me remember how if someone mutates a creature onto another creature, it's basically an aura, so I cast removal on the creature but then the opponent gets to play the mutate creature anyway. I found this out on Arena and it made no sense because the creature on the field is mutating into the one being played, so if you kill it it should fizzle. Why do they get to play the mutate creature anyway? How does it make sense?

>> No.74770243

>>74770204
What if it IS Kooba?

>> No.74770252

>>74770233
Mutate makes no sense, stop questioning it.

>>74770243
Doubtful, Kooba posts his waifu and spams his dogshit decks (btw he only plays arena).

>> No.74770280

>>74770228
Because there's not enough cycle cards to make a good cycle deck
Unless you're playing with retards, you'll most likely end up with zero Flare, one if you're lucky
I'd rather end up with an average deck than half a good one

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>>74770243
*dramatic music*

>> No.74770286

>>74770233
They made it work that way so people don't get blown out by a removal spell, like Bestow

>> No.74770307

>>74770233
Don't forget that if you kill a mutated creature with a returns to play effect all the creatures come back, for some reason.

>> No.74770314

>>74770307
>for some reason
The game's rules.

>> No.74770340

>>74770307
>for some reason
Its in the card. And all cards in the pile are affected by it. Mutate is cool

>> No.74770379

moooom I'll eat breakfast later, I'm trolling /mmg/

>> No.74770386
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>>74770379
Who are you quoting

>> No.74770399

>>74770307
Huh, so let's say it had persist or undying, do they all come back separately with a counter?

>> No.74770427

>>74770399
Yes

>> No.74770441

>>74770379
Kek

>> No.74770447

>>74770427
intuitive and fun

>> No.74770471

>>74770447
>intuitive
No
>fun
Yes

>> No.74770503

>>74770280
The strength of a cycling deck is the cycling, not the payoffs. If everyone is picking cards that cycle, they're not picking cards their deck can use. If the cycling player picks cycling cards, he picks up a free deck thinner(thanks to how low and generic the cycling costs are in Ikoria), and with a thin deck you have more chance to draw your bombs.

>> No.74770522

Of course draft is more fun when you pick cards you don't want to play over cards you do want. That makes it self correcting. If I'm playing mutate of course I'll pick the Zenith Flare over something like Brokka so that I can win against the cycling deck and lose to the other decks that were actually focused. What part of this don't any of you understand?

>> No.74770545

>>74770503
You know cycle cards have more text than cycling {cost}, right?
>>74770522
You don't have to win against decks that don't exist

>> No.74770575

>>74762616
this is some Eternal tier art

>> No.74770600

>>74770522
>Of course I'll make my deck worse so I play a worse deck that I might not actually play or which might not even exist
I can see why /mmg/ hates limited all of a sudden.

>> No.74770670

>>74770545
>You don't have to win against decks that don't exist
>A more focused draft deck that picked cards on color and in theme doesn't exist
Now I know you must be trolling, nobody this dishonest really exists.

>> No.74770683

>>74770078
You're talking to people who only ever drafted with bots in MTGA. Of course it's easy to force it then because the card pool is unlimited.

>> No.74770703

>>74770670
When half the table tries to force an archetype that uses cards that are good all around, none of them will end up with a good deck

>> No.74770731

>>74770280
Waaaay to miss the point.
The point is that a deck is so broken that I need to instapick all of its pieces to deny it, however all the pieces are common or uncommon AND good in a vacuum, giving me no reason not to play said deck.

>> No.74770752

>>74770731
>The point is that a deck is so broken that I need to instapick all of its pieces to deny it
Speaking of missing the point

>> No.74770791

>>74770670
He is jewish

>> No.74770800

>>74770683
MTGA has real drafters now, albeit they all just go by online rankings/ratings for the most part so e.g. black is completely open in M21, because it's the worst color, and you get ridiculous wheels like a pick 12 Eliminate.

>> No.74770828

>Then
>God Ikoria draft is so bad because of how STRONG cycle is
>Now
>Oyyy vey goy Ikoria draft was kino and peeerfect!!!
This is why I don’t play (((draft))).
That and 18+€ to play.

>> No.74770886

>>74770828
>>Today
>>God Ikoria draft is so bad because of how STRONG cycle is
>>Also today
>>That's not a problem, the way draft works helps diluting the power of strong archetypes
FTFY

>> No.74770888

>>74769051
I might just had a stroke but I think this is really good. You can play it turn 1 but you don't have to attack with it immediately.
From turn 2 onwards you can start thinking if its worth attacking or not depending on your what's your hand

>> No.74770911

>>74770886
KEk sure retard.
Don’t make me go get proof of you limitards screaming about cycle, see the memes you faggots made.

>> No.74770960

>>74770911
>limitards are a hivemind
The cycle deck is very good on paper but once everyone knows it, people either try to force it because it's the strongest or don't because retards will force it and dilute it
At least that's for Draft
In Sealed, it's not possible to dilute the pool so you can force a cycle deck

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>>74770911
it's just our resident shitposting faggot who is also a third world KLK weeb that plays 8rack
all he does is post retarded shit on /mmg/ for 10 hours a day

>> No.74770981

>It’s another limitards prove they are jews and dishonest subhumans episode
My favorite.
The other good one is
>Limikikes insist you play limited as a new player, because it’s easy you see! However also insist limited is the most skill intensive game mode

>> No.74770994

>>74770981
Sealed is good for new players
Draft is very skill intensive

>> No.74770998

>>74770888
It only works with severe advantage/support/gamble and is a complete waste turn1. If you don't play with shit like that sorcery that was just revealed I don't see the point at all.

>> No.74771030

>>74770966
>Diarrhea skin animememer
Of course.

>> No.74771044

>>74770575
>not liking curse capsules
Take the blackpill

>> No.74771103

>>74770800
Yeah i have noticed most mtga players suck at the game, they just go by guides even in draft, i could pick up tons of removal too with no issue. Problem i feel is that the players you draft against you don't play with later.

>> No.74771122

>>74770828
>paying 18 bucks to keep cards you drsft and can later sell the bombs.

I mean i pay 5 bucks to play in weekly tourneys, what's the difference?

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>> No.74771192

>>74771178
goes great in my Kozilek edh deck

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>>74771178
how many god damned mythics does this fucking set have?!

>> No.74771207

>>74771178
I like it (I also like the Eldrazi ref, fight me)

>> No.74771212

>>74769051
Oki doki baddy

>> No.74771216

>>74771178
man this is some bullshit

>> No.74771244

>>74771205
More than ever before. Mythic pull rate is now 1/7.3 going forward rather than 1/8.

>> No.74771250

>>74771178
>reduce white to nothing but lifegain
>give everything else passive lifegain

>> No.74771264
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>>74771178
goes great into my artifact cube
too bad you can't missplay with it
why the fuck does it gain life?

>> No.74771265

>>74771205
We have 17 but we're missing at least one black (the spellland) and maybe one green

>> No.74771284

>>74771178
>tfw Ayli won't be in the set.

She was great too, still play her in my sac deck.

Hmm can we make colorless work in standard?

>> No.74771290

>>74771178
This is the most boring card ever.

>> No.74771295

>>74771265
>>74771205
>>74771244
should be 20 mythics in this set IIRC

>> No.74771300

>>74767983
The art in this set so far is 95% garbage.

>> No.74771305

>>74771178
goes great in my wishboard

>> No.74771307

>>74771178
tron forever

>> No.74771319

>>74771284
T1 goose
T2 palladium myr
T3 this monument
T4 ugin

Pretty straightforward

>> No.74771351

>>74771178
>lifegain just tacked on for some reason
:/

>> No.74771362

>>74771178
Makes my lands attack for a billion, cool.
Oh and it ramps and gains life, of course it does.

>> No.74771366

ELDRAZI WINTER AND ARTIFACTS MATTER WERE FUCKUPS SO HUGE THEY NEARLY KILLED THE GAME AND THE JEWS ACTUALLY HAD TO APOLOGIZE FOR IT
WHY ARE THEY PRINTING MORE SUPPORT FOR OP COLORLESS SHIT?

>> No.74771375

>>74771362
Time to buy Stone coil serpents

>> No.74771392

>>74771178
goes infinite with monolith.

>> No.74771476

>>74771178
>do thing
>gain life
>ramp
Woooow

>> No.74771484

>>74771392
Only the bad one. And that was some obscure deck they banned away several months ago, so why would anyone at wizards remember those cards?

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>>74771476
>doesn't draw card
PATHETIC

>> No.74771502

>>74771375

More like time to buy Ugin

>> No.74771530

>eldrazi gets better support in the "no we wont bring back eldrazi" set than white
you cannot make this up

>> No.74771560

>>74771178
The anus mana passes for this because it's somewhat eldrazi themed, but please wotc stop putting anus mana on cards that have nothing to do with eldrazi.
The urza lands in particular.
Please.

>> No.74771571

>>74771178
Legit busted.

>> No.74771595
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>>74771560
>The urza lands in particular.
Urza's many anuses was truly, truly miserable...

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>>74771178
Wow it's The Great Henge for Tron
Magic is never coming back
This is supposed to be the "low power set"
Fuck this game

>> No.74771609

>>74771560
Eldrazi tron is close to the only deck that plays eldrazi.

>> No.74771662

>>74771178
retard here, the way its worded works with tron lands right?
If I'm adding 3 colorless instead of 1, I still get the additional 1 from this card right?

>> No.74771697

>>74771178
dies to artifact removal

>> No.74771699

>>74771662
Yes, you get 10 mana from the tron lands

>> No.74771705

>>74771607
No, its an unholy mix of zendikar resurgent and the immortal sun for tronniggers

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https://youtu.be/d004BlPRVN4
I haven't even watched the video yet.

>> No.74771830
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>people already hate tron but at least you can try racing it and they need to get all the tron lands to pop off
>nvm now they have passive lifegain and can ramp without all 3 lands and their wurmcoils get boosted

>> No.74771839 [DELETED] 

>>74771821
>Rallying people to get the Dual Lands off the Reserve List
Unfathomly based.

>> No.74771861 [DELETED] 

>>74771839
The Professor is in some weird quantum state of totally cucked and absolutely based at the same time. What an oddity.

>> No.74771877

>>74771861
His opinions on the state of magic are generally based. Everything else is up for debate.

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>>74771178

mmmmmmm, gards

>> No.74771893

Final four pathways are coming in Kalheim

https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/making-magic/zendikar-rising-challenge-part-2-2020-09-07

>> No.74771897

>>74771877
>His opinions on the state of magic are generally based.
So the opinions that matter are based

>> No.74771898

>>74771830
which tron deck is going to play that turn 3?

>> No.74771914

>>74771861
The professor is great as long as you avoid looking at Twitter. Twitter is a hellhole.

>> No.74771956

>>74771898
None but it will be part of K4rn wishboard

>> No.74771970

>>74771898
A lot of them. If you can't see this, then I'd assume you also thought Lurrus was balanced.
>Wurmcoil is now an 8/8 that produces 2 5/5s
>Tron lands tap for 10 total, even more if you get more out
>Incidental lifegain helps mitigate disadvantage against burn and aggro decks, the decks Tron struggles the most against

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>>74771914
You now remember him scrambling to find black MTG content creators to make videos with because he was facing down a twitter lynch mob and making a video with some random black YGOfag who didn't play MTG

>> No.74772014

>>74771970
surely its not going to be that bad....right....?

>> No.74772051

>>74772014
Probably not in all honesty, but it is busted and I could easily see it being run in the SB for K4rn or even as a 1/2-of in the main deck.

>> No.74772065

>>74771178
upsetting

>> No.74772081

>>74770575
first time i see this game mentioned on /tg/

>> No.74772098

>>74771970
>>Tron lands tap for 10 total,
I think the even bigger deal is they now tap for 2 each WITHOUT tron assembled/after it is disrupted.

>> No.74772125

>>74772098
hey uh
can u delete this post its making me feel sad

>> No.74772147

>>74772098
Stop being antisemitic and just buy the packs Goy
>>74771821
Reported for hate speech. SHUT IT DOWN.

>> No.74772208

This is God's punishment
All formats will just be Tron vs. RDW vs. Uropile forever

>> No.74772249

>>74772208
Oh yeah? Well what if I just play Storm?

>> No.74772259

>>74772249
Then you are a manlet and God has already punished you

>> No.74772264

>>74772249
manlets are not welcome

>> No.74772280

>>74772208
>He is scared of Tronchads
Good, know your place, trash

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>everyone seething over tron and uro
>play twiddlestorm

>> No.74772339

>>74772280
>trontard feeling superior to anyone
You’ll never be a real woman

>> No.74772345

>>74772323
>manlet is also a spic

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>>74772323
>bounces one of your lands in response to Lotus Field ETB
HEH
HEH
HEH

>> No.74772407

>>74772339
Obviously I won't, I'm a man

>> No.74772436

>>74772407
man(let)

>> No.74772466

>>74772436
I'm 6'0

>> No.74772478

>>74772466
of course you are sweetie

>> No.74772554

>>74772466
post yourself standing in a doorway with a timestamp and your deck in your hands

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>>74771821
Literally scalpers have no recourse besides seething, kvetching and autistic screeching on twatter and leddit.
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

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>permanent spell
wtf

>> No.74772667

>>74772654
holy fuck this game is done for

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74772675

>>74772654
imagine being a judge

>> No.74772691

>>74772654
If this card had been printed in 1995 it would be $4000 now. This is obscene. I can't believe they would print something like this. I'm actually stunned.

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>>74772654

>> No.74772703

>>74772654
Just means you need to copy it on the stack, right?

>> No.74772705

>>74772654
EDH trannies bout to buy this all up

>> No.74772727
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>>74772654
Footage from the meeting where they came up with "permanent spell".

>> No.74772732

>>74772703
Yes.
This is also going in the Karn wishboard so you can get 2x Wurmcoil Engine and then when the death ability triggers you can activate it again if it's untapped and you get 4 tokens

>> No.74772754

>>74772732
If its that simple why cant magic players read their cards?

>> No.74772758

>>74772654
is that just a retarded way of saying nonland?

>> No.74772761

>>74772703
I think it MIGHT refer to double faced cards that have a spell side and a land side.
But even with that it doesn't fucking makes sense.

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>>74770966
what the fuck are you talking about you absolute mouth breathing retard?

>3rd world
im american

>8rack
its 8 whack

>he
>implying

>10 hrs
?? tf i post here maybe two times every couple of days. are you okay? how do u see a shitpost in everything and attribute it all to some boogyman

>> No.74772779

>>74772758
Yes but it also refers to timing since it can only be copied on the stack.
>>74772754
It's more that this ability has never appeared before, at least to my knowledge.

>> No.74772807

>>74772773
>literal animutranny

>> No.74772820

>>74772675
reminder, you have to PAY to be a judge now.

>> No.74772825

so whatever happened to them being afraid to make good artifacts again because they always had to watch out for stuff like tron?

>> No.74772840

>>74772773
i like your nails, steve

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>>74772773
Oh noes the tronmutt with the pancake ass and mosquito bites is back...

>> No.74772847

>>74772773
you'll never pass

>> No.74772870

>>74772773
>Tron deck
You're giving us a bad name, stop playing that deck

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>>74772807
>>74772840
>>74772847
>tranny

cope and seethe manlets. you wish i was a tranny

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>>74772825
They reprinted tron in double nigger masters so that they could increase interest and demand for the tron pieces they wanted to print in the upcoming set.
They are fucking ruthless.

>> No.74772886

>>74772761
No, anything you cast goes on the stack as spell, hence why counterspell works as written.
Permanents are obvious, so permanent spell simply means a permanent while its on the stack from being caster.

>> No.74772894

>>74772844
He never left, he was shitposting all this time under different fake identities. Same posting pattern as all the avatarfag shitposters who appeared after trontranny mysteriously "left." Did you notice that?
Pretty much all low quality posts on 4chan generals are the same 1-2 people.

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>>74772773
>those nails
why on earth

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>>74772870
never ever. im gonna be a tronchad till i drop magic. nowadays i mostly play amulet titan tho. ive been thinking about rebuilding jund with chinaman foils tho

>> No.74772934

>>74772882
>dudes can't have long nails
wew, steve, you good?

>> No.74772968

>>74772924
You can't be a chad if you're a tranny

>> No.74772971

>>74771861
he's an EDHfag with a mission

>> No.74772976
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Traumatize(edh edition)

>> No.74772977

>>74772971
>a mission
To find black people to put on his show?

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>> No.74772996

>>74772977
if that's the price of getting oubliette reprinted, then he'll do that.

>> No.74773000

>>74772976
>each
Wow this is unbelievable they actually are killing this game for EDH. Mill is already a legit deck now because they have that new 1drop millcrab and now this. Basically another Glimpse the Unthinkable but easier to cast.
Dimir or Sultai Mill is going to be t1 now.

>> No.74773004

>>74771861
Hes a washed up fucking english major trying to get youtube money, so he does what makes him popular with reddit

>> No.74773006

>>74772976
>opponent
>mills
into the trash

>> No.74773008

>>74772976
This gives me a mill boner.
W...we no l...longer will b...be the underdog millchad brethren!

>> No.74773016

>>74773008
>underdog
What are you, retarded? Mill is incredibly strong now.

>> No.74773033

>>74773016
Up to one week ago mill was burn's weird cousin nobody ever talks of.

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>>74772968
good thing im not a tranny then. im a natural born woman

>>74772921
stiletto nails are comfy

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>>74772976
>6 mana mills for half
>kills with Bruvac on the spot

>> No.74773059

>>74773042
>woman
>competitive magic

>> No.74773062

>>74773033
Yes but they have been pushing mill incredibly hard and now it's a legit deck that has 8 Hedron Crabs, mills 1/4th of your library if you fetch, can play Ashiok to fuck over a lot of meta decks, and now it's got 8 copies of Glimpse.
Mill is insane now.

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>>74773059
all the trannys play EDH. i hate that shit format

>> No.74773099

>>74773054
>kills whole table in EDH
>with Bruvac casted from the command zone
I know this isnt the edh general but I cannot wait for the seethe over it. Just tutor up Maddening Cacophony and delete the table

>> No.74773116

I liked mill when it was a meme deck that no one but me played

>> No.74773125

>>74773099
I don't play EDH but i'm ecstatic because this game is flying directly into the shitter at record speed due to WotC catering to them, so now they get to feel the burn as well

>> No.74773200

so I play burn
now I can play blue burn but they call it “8-crab”?
I’m in

>> No.74773240

>>74771994
>Magic is so white the professor had to go to a whole other card game to talk to a nigger
Also i'm pretty sure the specific black guy isn't even a good yugituber.

>> No.74773262

>>74773062
I see they are been learning "overloading" from riot games huh...

>> No.74773283

>>74772758
>nonland
no it means creature/artifact/enchantment, nonland would include I/S.

>> No.74773315

>>74773062
>Mill is insane now.

So you could say it's... PEAK PERFORMANCE

>> No.74773327

new thread where?

>> No.74773337

>>74773327
we're about to be set free anon
embrace the end

>> No.74773343

>>74773327
nowhere I hope

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>>74773315
Fuck off Kooba

>> No.74773414

>>74773116
I knew about mill thanks to needle worm back when i used to play yugioh before synchro monsters made the game F.I.R.E.
It was love at first sight...
The amount of seething that card caused in kids back then was delightful.

>> No.74773647 [DELETED] 

>>74771861
>Brings blacks to the show
>hey Jamal, did you know most of the slave owners where jewish?
Even when he's cucked, he's based.

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>>74771821

>> No.74773734
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>> No.74773756

>>74772466
Whoa, have you gotten your bottom operation yet dude?
Don't, men with pussies are hot.

>> No.74773784

>>74772773
>>3rd world
>im american
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>> No.74773804

>>74772976
>Mill
>EDH
HUH
HOH

>> No.74773884

>>74773098
>>74773042
Show your vagina then.

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>>74772727
isn't the point of a permanent that it's a spell that stays around permanently, thus "permanent spell"? i've always thought that this was the reasoning behind permanents being called permanents. i guess it is silly to explicitly say "permanent spell" when referring to things on the stack, but it works with the rules

>> No.74773970

>>74773647
Wait did he actually said that?

>> No.74774070

>>74773734
finally some good fucking planeswalker removal. shame it's 3 cmc though

>> No.74774101

>>74774070
>good
>removable 3 mana sorcery speed removal

>> No.74774135

>>74774070
The only effective removal for planeswalkers is counters and discard. Everything else is just treading water.

>> No.74774143

>>74773734
>a slightly better Arrest
w-whew, slow down there Wizards, you're pushing white so hard!

>> No.74774215

>>74774135
if you kill your opponent the planeswalker goes with them :)

>> No.74774470

So 2 days ago MagicAIDS posted a video where he came out with a Sultai Mill deck utilizing Hedron Crab, Ruin Crab, and Uro. This allowed for a consistent t4/t5 kill as it was something like 25% faster than traditional Dimir Mill decks. Uro also gained life against aggro decks and allowed double the Landfall triggers as well as providing lots of draw and ramping to be able to play more spells and hold up countermana and such. IIRC he went 4-1.
This was before this new card was spoiled. Imagine what a boost this would have been to such a deck. With Uro ramp you can easily pay the Kicker on this and mill gigantic amounts of cards quickly, and it's like having 8 copies of Glimpse the Unthinkable even without the Kicker. This will greatly speed up Sultai Mill. I'm sure some actual nerd can crunch the numbers on this because I'm bad at math but you're looking at a t3-t4 win, basically the same as red but it doesn't care about life totals and can actually protect itself rather than just trying to go zoom zoom super fast.
Now I find this very funny because WotC's design decisions seem to be running in the direction of reducing "feelsbads" like mana screw/flood which is why there's so much draw and now modal lands, and things like uncounterable creatures, powerful ETBs, more flash, more haste, etc. And the three biggest feelsbads in the game are getting discarded, getting milled, and getting countered, this makes the dumber players absolutely fucking seethe because in their mind, they hate being unable to even play the card before they lose it. These are all abilities that Dimir/Sultai Mill will have.
So what's this mean? They have created YET ANOTHER Uro deck, that is very strong and consistent, that will be very difficult to hate against because of this consistency and because mill is difficult to fight besides killing it before it mills you, and which will piss off many, many players.
Mill nigs, buy your Uroshit now.
Everyone else, put 1 Gaea's Blessing in your SB.

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>>74774470
imagine being this bad

>> No.74774540

Imagine being a weeb tranny

>> No.74774725

>>74774470
I don't believe in any MagicAIDS decks after the meme that was Vexing Devil

>> No.74774750

>>74774725
Come on, this is your time, millshitter

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>>74774470
FOR THE LAST TIME KOOBA IM NOT BUYING MILL ILL PLAY PHYREXIAN UNLIFE IF I WANTED TO PLAY A DECK WITH AN ALTERNATE WIN CONDITION JESUS CHRIST MY AUTISM IS TRIGGERED AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA-

>> No.74775119

>>74772727
Bold of you to assume any cute women work at wotc

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>>74773098
TITS OR GTFO

>> No.74775213

>>74772988
>blue card
>its a kubik cube for retards
Fucking kek

>> No.74775225

>>74772988
b e t t e r
t h a n
c r y p t i c
c o m m a n d

>> No.74775237

>>74772976
You’ll never cast this for 6 unless you’re an edhlet and at that point you should commit suicide

>> No.74775259

>>74773042
Jesus christ i have seen chickens with more aesthetic fingers

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>>74772976
>each
I hate these cards

>> No.74775321

>>74775307
You know who to blame

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>> No.74775361

>>74775333
>8 fucking mana

>> No.74775386

>>74759145
This.

>> No.74775397

>>74775333
>8cmc
even with being modal thats absolute trash

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>>74773734
When do we get to see Sorin violently rape Nahiri while destroying Zendikar?

>> No.74775671

>>74770600
Lol

>> No.74775881

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>implying nu-wotc will ever have the balls to do something like that
>implying nahiri won't pwn sorin and he will get forced to apologize for being an insensitive jerk and promise he will be all flowers and rainbows and onions from now on and will check his vampire privilege

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