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CONSTRUCTED RESOURCES:
>Current metas, complete with deck lists
https://www.mtgtop8.com/
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/
>Build and share decks
https://deckstats.net/
http://tappedout.net/

CUBE RESOURCES
>Build and share cubes
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CARD RESOURCES
>Search engines
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https://scryfall.com/
https://mtg.wtf/

Previous: >>74606110

TQ:
Did you like Allies? How would you improve them?

>> No.74624102

>>74624092
>Did you like Allies? How would you improve them?
More diversity

>> No.74624142

>>74624092
make an Enemies tribe that's all about fucking Allies up (even your own ones) and getting bonuses from it. they won't have as much synergy as Allies (or Rebels) do beyond "fucks Allies up"

>> No.74624161

HE

>> No.74624195

Is wg titan vial a meme or here to stay deck?

>> No.74624201

Post your deck(s) and let your fellow posters judge your personality based on them
That's always fun

>> No.74624505

>>74624092
>Did you like Allies?
No, they're shit.
>How would you improve them?
Just make creatures give tribal bonuses to creatures that are not their own type.

>> No.74624521

>>74624201
I just started playing modern recently but I do like my current budget decks. I have:
>8-whack
>white weenies
>vialess, FoN-less merfolk
>half of hardened scales
>half of mono g infect
>this weird gw humans hardened scales pile (took the deck from MTGGoldfish)

I think my first real deck is going to be either goblins or gifts strom

>> No.74624576

>>74624201
7 forest belcher
RG aggro-esque flying/reanimate
RW bolt tribal

>> No.74624577

>>74624521
You are a cheapskate aggronigger. You are dipping your toe in trying to find something you like and for now you like speed. You want to win on the board, and fast, with overwhelming swings, but you want to still be able to make skillful moves, big game-stealing power plays, to show finesse.
Goblins is kind of retarded and reddit but with Snoop the deck is basically snowballing aggro that can pull a Splinter Twin out of its ass and toolbox through so there is some other stuff going on there to keep it interesting. It probably is a good fit for you.

>> No.74624584

>>74624201
Modern
>Lantern Control
>Eldrazi Burn
Pauper
>Delver
>Tortured Existence
Commander
>Dromoka, the Eternal

>> No.74624630

>>74624201
>Modern
Dredge, Humans, Bogles, formerly Affinity
>Pauper
Affinity, G/B Aristocrats, Skred Faeries, R/B Control
>EDH
Zedruu the Greathearted

>> No.74624643

>>74624577
>Goblins is kind of retarded and reddit
t. Uro pile player

>> No.74624751
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74624751

With Double Masters having tanked the prices of some modern cards, would it be a bad/wasteful idea to grab some cheap staples, despite not having any immediate interest in playing the decks?

an example would be Goblin Guide. I don't have plans to play burn, but this is probably the cheapest time to get the card.

>> No.74624774

>>74624584
A true patrician.

>> No.74624836

>>74624751
It'll be the cheapest amount to get guides if you look into the recent past.
It'll be the most expensive amount if you look into the future.

Lists have begun cutting guides nowadays. Also, imagine the feeling of T1 guide into them drawing a land and playing it with grazer or uro next turn. Pure FIRE

>> No.74624861

>>74624201
landfall, counter/stall spells, flood in the late game and also flying. idk i play legacy with 2-3 people at most so it's definitely not meta.

>> No.74624863

>>74624576
You like to gamble but also to play it safe which is why you play these cheapo decks that swing for the fences. Low investment, high return.
>>74624584
You are a guy who wants to control the pace of the game and win with overwhelming advantage but you play decks that rely on finesse because you want to feel like you earned it
>>74624630
>Dredge

>> No.74624893
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>>74624201
UW Spirits

>> No.74624930

>>74624893
You like Spirits. You feel like they embody everything you like about Magic. The synergy, the natural evasion, the speed, the focus on tempo, the flexible interaction. Event he flavor hits all the right marks. But you seethe because you feel like you're always just going to be playing Humans Jr.

>> No.74625500
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OOF

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>>74624201
>Modern
Mono G Nyxwave
>Pauper
Goblin Storm
>Edh
Tatyova Turbo Lands

>> No.74625939
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74625939

>>74624201

>modern
gtron and BW eldrazi and taxes

>legacy
DnT, belcher, cephalid breakfast, enchantress, mono w stax

>> No.74625996
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74625996

>>74624201
>modern
Gifts Storm
>Pauper
Elves I also played vinestorm before gush got banned, even though it was ass.

>> No.74626055

>>74624201
https://deckstats.net/decks/157294/1712267-scarecrow-tron

>> No.74626402
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74626402

as if it wasn't already an absolutely horrific time to be playing DnT in legacy since oko's rise, now elves is also a t1 deck

i think i'm 0-12 vs. elves as DnT. absolute horror show

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>>74624201
8 whack
amulet titan
mono g tron

>> No.74626834

I'm "building" a loam pox deck, but it's not for a competitive environment so I'm obviously not interested in shedding money for staples like Thoughtseize, Liliana of The Veil, Damnation or Mutavault

I already have playsets of smallpox, sinkhole and Hymn to Tourach, plus 2x Pox (ice age). I used to run a casual mono black land destruction w/ Gurmags, and that's kinda of what got me into the archetype. I'm ready to invest a bit more time and money into it this deck though, and I wanted to explore some BG Loam options to see what interactions I liked, and how can I polish this a bit further

1st thing I'd get would probably be a playset of Loams, and that would specifically hit the $ ceiling I would impose, I'm just trying the deck after all. I know the Loams can be used in other decks if it doesn't work out.
Next, The Rack (3s maybe?) is a cheap option.
Instead of getting Nether Spirit or Bloodghast, I thought about using a mixbag of Scrapheap Scrounger and Bloodsoaked Champion I already own
Wrenchmind is a card I'm looking at, but I'm wary the BB cost is gonna fuck me over more often then not.

Anybody experienced with symmetrical stax effects want to chime in on Pox decks?
I know it's a bit under powered these days with many cards being 2-for-ones, but I'm sure it can be fun AND effective

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>>74624201
>Modern
Niv2Light
Mono-U Tron
Bant Stoneblade Control (Without Uro)
Hollow One Random Discard Shenanigans

>Commander
Zakama
Thraximundar

>> No.74626968

>>74624201
I play Lands and Doomsday in Legacy. I used to play Dredgevine and Living End in Modern but I sold out of Modern when Hogaak came out and pretty much all my Modern cards spiked. I still need to re-buy Leyline of the Void now that I think about it.

>> No.74627031

>>74626968

You have like two weeks to sell out of legacy. Fair warning. Duals and LEDs might be safe but nothing else is.

>> No.74627033

>>74624201

humans, elves, dnt

>> No.74627050

>>74627031
I have been considering it with the Mox Diamond spike. I have been toying with the idea for a while since Tabernacle got up to 2k, but now with other stuff going up I'm getting closer to pulling the trigger.

>> No.74627059

>>74624201
>Memedern
Electrobalance
UW Spirits
8-Whack
>Legacy
DnT
>Premodern
Chronostasis
Suicide Black

>> No.74627090

>>74627050

The main thing is just that legacy staples are on a 12 month loop and always spike in june/July/August but the format can't survive another year of FIRE.

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>>7462705
>>74624201
oh fug I forgot UB Mill for memedern as well

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>>74627059
>>74624201
oh fug I forgot UB Mill for memedern as well

>> No.74627301

>>74627033
You hate Plague Engineer and question everyday what you did to deserve it
>>74627059
>>74627121
You don’t really care about winning or losing you just want to make sure your opponent hates magic by the time the game is over

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>>74627031

>Duals and LEDs might be safe but nothing else is.

my survivalcoin is doing quite nicely

>> No.74627769

>>74624201
>Modern
DnT (W, BW, GW) variants.
Bogles
Lantern
Whir prison
Red prison (mono red + RW)
>Legacy
Enchantress
Mono red prison
Pox
>Old school
Disco troll

>> No.74627802

>>74627769
>Pox
post list

>> No.74627815

Does anybody play casual decks on Xmage or anything?
How easy would it be to get a friendly game going?

>> No.74628183

>>74624201
>Modern
Deadguy Ale
Yagmoth
Death Shadow
>Pauper
UB Delver
>Commander
Daxos The Returned
Kels Fight Fixer

>> No.74628319
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74628319

>>74627802
It is not optimal by any means, but would love suggestions.

>> No.74628364

>>74628319
>Phyrexian Obliterator
Does it work out well for you more often than not?

>> No.74628386

>>74628364
We have a lot of burn in my meta.
It is basically a bridge that also wins me games sometimes.

>> No.74628416

>>74628386
Sorcerous spy glass over Pithing Needle/Phyrexian Revoker?
I'm not an expert by any means

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>>74624201

>> No.74628513

>>74628416
Revoker dies to innocent blood and information is nice. I usually get it with 1/3 whishes, so the mana isn't usually important. Maybe I am too used to playing chalice, I care too much about these things.

>> No.74628824

>>74625500
>Transguild Promenade
>Notion Rain
what the sweet unholy fucking shit is this abomination of a format.

>> No.74628914
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>>74628423
>Delver
>AND Oko

>> No.74628942

>>74624201
>Modern
UB Inverter
Temur Eldrazi
>COOMander
Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet

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>>74628423

>> No.74628957
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74628957

>>74624201
*hoots*

>> No.74628996

>>74624201
>edh
Avacyn angels
>Pauper
white weenie and my boros watermark theme deck. Might make another pauper deck sometime, it's been a really fun format to play, but not sure what sort of deck. Kinda wanna do another guild theme deck.

>> No.74629090

>>74624201
>modern
deadguy ale
ponza
>edh
queen marchesa
cao cao

>> No.74629222
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74629222

>>74624201

>> No.74629243

>>74629090
How's modern deadguy working for you? Was thinking of picking some cheap Bob's to finish mine. Don't you just insta lose to a resolved plague engineer?

>> No.74629374

>>74628957
Isn't this just worse than eight rack in every way?

>> No.74629405
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>>74629374
>domes you for 36
*hoot*

>> No.74629479

>>74624201
>Vintage
Dredge.
>Legacy
Dredge
>Modern
I don't play M*dern
>Pauper
TortEx.

>> No.74629648

>>74624201
Krark-Clan Ironworks is the best but any artifact heavy deck is okay

>> No.74629667

>>74628957
Do you have an updated list?

>> No.74629689

>>74629374
It has a certain beauty to it though.

>> No.74629697
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>>74629667
It's basically the same as before. I've settled on Niv as the vs-control sideboard wincon. He's performing much better than Keranos and Chandra, Awakened ever did.

I've tested a ton of M21/IKO cards but nothing worked out, so the list hasn't updated much since last time. The type of cards we need are so niche, that we barely ever get good stuff to mess with. Perhaps Zendikar will bring the juice.

Basically, the only piece I'm looking for is some efficient life gain/aggro-hosing that also advances our strategy. Something like that would solidify our bad matchups.

>> No.74629710

>>74629697
whoa...
*boggle*

>> No.74629721

>>74629243
I've been doing fine with it, though my lgs is much more casual than most. Plague Engineer is pretty bad, yeah. Though your creature types are varied enough where it isn't an instant loss, unless you went all in on Lingering Souls or something.

>> No.74629723

>>74629697
Sweet, thanks for the list

>> No.74629756

>>74629723
;_; Sadly, with the banning of Astrolabe and drifting away from Yorion snowpiles, I'm noticing more people jamming tons of copies of Force of Negation into all their uropile mythic shitlists.

Back in the Yorion meme days, we could crush those decks that ran less than 4 FoNs in an 80 card list. Now, the cancer of fetching Mystic Sanctuaries to loop Force of Negation, backed up by T3f, is a cancerous mongpile that is hell to smash through.

Was fun while it lasted, though. Ahhh, one day we shall rise again, out from the tier-4 mire... one day.

>> No.74629773

>>74629756
>Rise again
>Owling dogshit
Julaj, you're tier cuck my nigga, you belong in the bog.

>> No.74629785

>>74629773
Fuck off, get back into your soggy waffles incest dungeon. Owling mine is based as fuck.

>> No.74629801
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74629801

Actually, on the note of meta shits, I've actually been pretty happy with Blitz taking over from Burn. They're still tough to deal with, but them sinking much of their face-destroying powers into on-board threats, gives our bounce spells something to do, and Exhaustions stuff to lock down. Bouncing a Stormwing just feels amazing. And, Trinisphere drops such a giant dookie on them in game 2+ that the match is actually winnable, as opposed to before.

Blitz' penchant for cantrips also enables all of our giant damage sledgehammers. Why yes, I would like to hit you for 7 with Cerebral Vortex, thank you very much. I hope that mana you got from Manamorphose was worth it!

Matches vs. Burn were just apocalyptic. We can at least play against Blitz, and have a hope of winning, even game 1 on the draw! Our matches vs. Uropiles are worse, but Blitz taking over from Burn is a welcome relief.

:) Hope you enjoyed my blogposting again, friends! Now to vanish again, for another undisclosed period of time.

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Cyberpunk dice edition.
>friendly, daily and threadly reminder that wotc is de facto printing an illegal cryptocurrency where prices are kept artificially inflated due to artificial scarcity and insider trading that gets distributed through lottery tickets and lootboxes and that they spend, all costs included, 2 cents per card to print them

>> No.74629852

>>74629773
Oh, you're probably one of the randos I've domed. Anon, I am deeply sorry that my adorable owl friend hurt you so deeply.

>> No.74629861

>>74629785
Owling Mine has a certain charm to it, it's a beautiful deck when it's in motion.

>>74629756
One day.

>> No.74629896

>>74629861
>it's a beautiful deck when it's in motion.
Honestly, the reason I love it, and still play it to this day, is because of how it changes game states.

Games against Owling Mine aren't just "How do I jam my deck into my opponent's face", they become more about thinking which play lines you want to take to save yourself.

I really wish more decks like it were in the meta. A meta is healthiest not only when it has a diversity of viable archetype, but also when those archetypes promote a diversity of game states.

>> No.74629922

https://youtu.be/Fk5o6cbq_Qs
One might think that this video has nothing to do with magic or traditional games, but if you look and listen closely, with the right mindset, you're gonna get precious insights about mtgfinance and even dating advices because why not.
tl;dr wotc is playing the "let's see how far can we pull the rope without having it snap" with us at the expense of our wallets and the health of the game.
Proxy whenever you can.

>> No.74630031

>>74629922
good ol' pump'n'dump
as old as the money changers themselves

>> No.74630142

>>74628824
Look at the sey symbols? Obviously a Rav plane draft

>> No.74630191

>>74629922
Disgusting
I hope they all rot

>> No.74630469

>>74626834
try some Lingering Souls, Roar of the Wurm or Cling to Dust as discard fodder for your poxes
i don't know how the deck works but (small)pox makes you discard shit so i think recursion value cards could be nice.

>> No.74630566

>>74629801
I will never surrender Burn for Blitz. Burn is love. Burn is life.

>> No.74630806

>>74629785
>>74629852
>hehehe my tier Z deck is le baste as le fUARK!!! i win EVERY GAME I AM GOD GAMER!!!
KEK sure retard.

>> No.74630831

>>74630806
who are you quoting?

>> No.74630844

>>74630831
You cuckbunny.
Now go masturbate over your 1-70 record with your dogshit deck.

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74630849

>>74630844
what's wrong with you? you wanna talk about it?

>> No.74630906

>>74629817
based

>> No.74631060

Good morning. I hope you're all doing well today.

>> No.74631074

>>74624201
r/w allies
budget affinity
blue steel
slowly doing ponza

>> No.74631084

>>74631074
was going to say based but then
>ponza

>> No.74631086

>>74631074
>budget affinity
My condolences.

>> No.74631094

>>74631084
if it changes anything, it's more of a gruul aggro/midrange than actual ponza because i just want to play big red creatures
>>74631086
i mean, with mox opal banned it doesn't really change that much from normal affinity, it's still a fun deck

>> No.74631238

Why does everyone hate Dredge so much?

>> No.74631246

>>74631238
Nobody really hates dredge because that would involve playing mtg, and playing mtg is a meme now.

>> No.74631258

>>74631238
Games are usually dictated by if you can gravehate them or if you can just kill them faster. I think dredge is cool but it shouldn't be surprising that people don't like games against dredge.

>> No.74631269

>>74631238
magic is a Bo1 format now and sideboards do not exist.

>> No.74631311

>>74631258
Dredge is actually the underdog now, the hero of Modern who never gives up

>> No.74631350

>>74631311
That and Tron.
Worst timeline.

>> No.74631385

>>74631350
But only the classic Tron variants that don't play K4rn

>> No.74631410

>>74631385
A valid point.

>> No.74631424

>>74631238
Most people hate gameplay that revolves around a simple yes or no question. Dredge games are pretty much ALWAYS that yes or no question.

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>>74631238
>hahaha you start at 8 life I start at 32 life

>> No.74631521

So is sanctioned paper play still suspended by wotc? Any of you play in a tournament? How much of an atrocity is that app that replaced the DCI? Are LGS owners transitioning well to running tournaments with it?

>> No.74631576

>>74631521
I downloaded the app to see what it was like. When you boot it up a faggy goblin that looks like it was made in that CalArts cartoon style pops up. Then the app asks you to put in your real name before you can use it for anything.

>> No.74631607

>>74631576
Can't you just use a fake name? I mean, it's not like the LGS will ask for ID... right?

>> No.74631617

>>74631607
Yes, but I couldn't think of a good fake name so I just closed the app.

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>>74631576
>>74631607
>register as A. Wyatt Mann

>> No.74631623

>>74631436
How the fuck has this card remained legal? What fucked up world has been created that this is somehow balance? Dredge can win without even putting a fucking creature on the board.

>> No.74631632

>>74631617
Fair enough. And even that aside they've had severely compromising network issues with user authentication in the past, and I just can't see myself giving them access to my phone.

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>>74631623
>Creeping Chill created to support Surveil
>Wilderness Reclamation made to support Adapt

>> No.74631635

evens binge/purge on 2 big macs, 3 large fries, and a dozen dunkin donuts
odds buy 2 noble hierarchs

>> No.74631653

>>74631632
>and I just can't see myself giving them access to my phone.
That's the main issue. They had literal spyware in Arena, got called out on it, tried to run damage control denying it was spyware and only relented after being absolutely shat on by all the tech nerds in the MtG community. And even then they didn't apologize.
I don't want them having access to my phone and I don't want them having access to all my info in a single centralized account. I don't like this attempt to build a single digital profile that all tech companies are colluding to do because it feels like they're trying to create a virtual voodoo doll

>> No.74631665

>>74628824
Supreme Draft

>> No.74631703

>>74631653
>all tech companies are colluding to do
Anon, that's just some schizo shit. Companies are certainly doing it, but it's not some grand conspiracy in a singular database.

Well, perhaps some governments are, but that's just a government oppression issue, not a global corporate conspiracy.

>> No.74631719

>>74631703
based good goy

>> No.74631753

>>74631703
>Companies are certainly doing it, but it's not some grand conspiracy in a singular database.
It doesn't have to be an organized conspiracy, the collusion can be natural as long as interests align. It's obvious that all the big tech players collect this data and also communicate with, or at least are aware of the actions and plans of, each other. If your data is collected by Facebook then you can be assured Google has it, then they have their own data, which is referenced by Facebook, and all these data subsets can be compiled to form a comprehensive digital profile. We know that they coordinate because if someone is banned on Twitter they get banned from Youtube too. We know that they will also affect the real world, because people have been dropped by their bank due to online activities.
At some point, most likely already but in the future most definitely, there will be a 1:1 digital copy of you stored in some server and it will be used against you in every aspect of your life. This isn't schizo shit, this is for real.
Anyway I know that Google mines my data already but I don't trust WotC with it.

>> No.74631781

>>74631719
Sure, anon, all these companies are secretly working together to gather every bit of info on you in a singular database for a global Jewish conspiracy.
Holy fuck.

>> No.74631795

>>74627031
You are a brainlet, legacy doesn't drive cards' prices since years already...

>> No.74631796

>>74631436
>uncountrable
>doesn't use the stack
>doesn't use a draw
>doesn't require to be in your hand
>costs 0 mana
>makes you start the game at 32 life and the opponent at 8
>the conditions in a dredge deck are not a downside at all
Yep, this is just draft chaff that will see no play besides some limited surveil decks.
This is R&D ladies and gentlemen and every other pretend-gender you can come up with.

>> No.74631801

>>74631753
>This isn't schizo shit, this is for real.
The internet allowing this free flow of complete retardation will be the downfall of civilized society.

>> No.74631816

>>74631796
They should have made it common so I can play it in Pauper

>> No.74631826

>>74631753
>We know that they coordinate because if someone is banned on Twitter they get banned from Youtube too. We know that they will also affect the real world, because people have been dropped by their bank due to online activities.
Yeah, making shit up really makes you look less crazy. Smh.

>> No.74631855
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74631855

>>74631816

>> No.74631856

>>74631620
>or Big Nick Digger
>or Hugh G. Rection
really, if you don't have a list of punny fake names to use as sideboard tech against scamware, you're doing it wrong

>> No.74631861

>>74631781
This but unironically

>> No.74631886

>>74631855
I also believe they should have made Smiting Helix an Instant, or given it Flash if it's cast from the GY.

>> No.74631920

>>74631816
based
>>74631886
Omega based.

>> No.74631932

>>74631801
Why must you gaslight you disingenuous faggot?

>> No.74631947

>>74631665
>is just richman draft but with 2 picks per pack instead of one, for 18 packs instead of 36
>first supreme draft will be all ravnica sets (except WAR)
oh, how boring
>next will be MH1
oh, how dreadful

thank fuck it's MTGO only

>> No.74631988

>>74631932
You crazy fucks used to be confined to only spouting your dumb shit on street corners, bothering a rather small number of people who usually pitied you for your mental issues. Giving you a bigger platform was a mistake.

>> No.74632011

>>74628423
Nice pringles bro

Why the fuck do people waste money on foils, again? To flex their potato chips? Lmao

>> No.74632015

>>74631988
>ad hominem
>gaslighting
>name calling
>lying
>autistic screeching
Is that the best you can do?
Are you even paid for it?

>> No.74632065

>>74632011
>Why the fuck do people waste money on foils, again?
I seriously don't know. I remember once when my friend ordered a playset of something and they showed up foil even though he definitely didn't order them foil. He had to toss them and order another set because you could always tell where they were in the deck.
I guess if the whole deck is pringles it's less of an issue, but damn.

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>>74624201
legacy abzan maverick, legacy death and taxes, modern bant hatebears company, modern death and taxes, vintage monowhite hatebears. Not pictured is modern and legacy versions of chandra themed boros pillowfort, modern orzhov superfriends, modern 4color humans, and pioneer bant hatebears company.

>> No.74632074

>>74632065
Nice foils you have the...JUUUUUUUUDGE

>> No.74632081
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74632081

>>74632065
>>74632011
I only have 1 set of foils in my deck and it's because it wasn't printed in non-foil.
Luckily they are flat enough that they're not "marked" but I dislike foils because that's always something you will have to be aware of and to be honest in a matte sleeve most foils look like crap

>> No.74632085
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74632085

>>74624201
I sold everything besides legacy RUG delver, Worldgorger dragon control and premodern fluctuator, the rock and suicide black.

>> No.74632134

>>74632067
Didn't finish my maverick due to covid. Now a fucking cradle costs as much as the rest of the deck

>> No.74632136

>>74624201
Modern
>Faeries
>Spirits
Standard
>Monoblack Knights

>> No.74632137

>>74631238
>hate Dredge
More like combo in general
Imagine playing the most interactive card game on the market and refusing to even acknowledge that your oponent exists, instead playing a solitaire game in which you always do the same plays repeated and autowin if you do it without your rival answering. If that appeals to you please play yugioh. Comboing there is actually fun and expected.

>> No.74632153

>>74632134
Nigga, just buy fakes.

>> No.74632156
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74632156

>>74631238
After the Theros Ox came out Magic AIDS did a video on it and it was everything wrong with Dredge

>> No.74632189
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74632189

>>74624201
>Modern
Temur/UW/Grixis Delver, Grixis Shadow, Merfolk

>Legacy
Sultai Delver, ANT

>Pauper
UB Delver

>> No.74632204

>>74624201
Modern Burn
Modern Elves

>> No.74632246

>>74631886
Smiting Helix is fine.
Cycling is not even competitive in any format.
You just lost to a meme deck, get over it.

>> No.74632254

>>74632246
what are you talking about schizo I never said anything about cycling

>> No.74632255
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74632255

>>74632134
Cradle is pretty optional. It has high upside when you get to cast a fat Zenith with it or whatever but it's also a liability. It taps for 0 after they play Deluge, plus it can be wasted when a random basic forest can't. Honestly not all of my builds of the deck even have cradle, and it depends on how many basics I'm able to include. If I feel like I need more basics, usually because I'm playing a 3-4 color version and I have too many nonbasics, Cradle is one of the first lands I'll shave for them.

>> No.74632314

>>74624201
modern
>jund
>mardu pyro
>jeskai spirits
pioneer
>esper humans
>mardu aristorcat
>bg midrange
standard
>jeskai draw2
pauper
>ur machinegun

>> No.74632326

>>74632314
>all those modern decks
oh no no no
based but also tragic
>pioneer
oh no no no
why would you play pioneer wtf?

>> No.74632387

>>74632326
>oh no no no
>why would you play pioneer wtf?
Because it's more complex than standard but slower than modern and i have no investment in it because the chinaman's got me covered so i don't give a shit if prices tank or skyrocket. :^)
Feels good to be free from the racket.

>> No.74632511

>>74632387
>I'm free from the racket because I now take part in the newest racket format but at least I don't pay for it
reconsider your life choices

>> No.74632514

Mardu Pyromancer did nothing wrong

>> No.74632525

>>74628423
>Oko
Bubbles.......Why?

>> No.74632548

>>74632525
If you're not playing either oko or combo in legacy at the moment you're sitting at the 0-4 tables

>> No.74632553
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74632553

>>74629817

>> No.74632560

>>74632153
>buying fakes
>not printing proxies
cringe

>> No.74632570

>>74632514
Free looting. That shit destroyed a million decks and half of our lgs just disappeared after the ban
>But it was abused too much!
If it was G the card would get a pass because they have a gigant bias. See ancient stirrings for more info

>> No.74632589

>>74632189
>Delver
Unfathomably based

>> No.74632620

>>74632548
Fair enough I suppose

>> No.74632628

So is there a format where I never need to worry about playing against Uro? I'm getting very tired of playing the same two decks ad infinitum with no way to counter them beyond my opponent drawing extremely poorly, which is nigh impossible with such decks.

>> No.74632643

>>74629817
Nice dice

>> No.74632645

>>74632628
Premodern or pauper

>> No.74632657

>>74632326
>oh no no no
it's fine, all of those are my budget versions, no great amount of $ lost
>why would you play pioneer wtf?
my lgs opened in 2016 so most people essentialy play pioneer when we play modern, it's fun and i get to use old favourites like Cartel Aristocrat

>> No.74632675

>>74632628
Cube and other draft variants

>> No.74632710

>>74624201
>Modern
D&T, Titan Vial

>Pioneer
UB "inverter"

>Legacy
D&T, Maverick, Esper Vial (with 4€ gilded drakes bought 10 years ago)

>Pauper
Mono U Faeries, BW Pestilence, BG TortEX

>> No.74632737

>>74629697
Your deck looks sweet as hell

>> No.74632808

>>74624201
Modern
>Gifts Storm
>UW Control (going to sidegrade this to a Pioneer deck due to it being functionally obsolete because of expensive upgrades)
>8-Rack
>Budget Mono-G Stompy

>> No.74632822

>>74624201
Bant control with a shape anew package. Works very well for not tryharding at your LGS

https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3305928#paper

>> No.74632859

>>74632643
Hey! That rhymes! You're a poet and didn't know it lol!

>> No.74632881

>>74632085
Is it bad that I drink coffee like this?

>> No.74632891

Goddam, Phoenix decks are so fun to play.

>> No.74632920

>>74631238
Because you could've just sat at home playing with yourself instead, same reason everyone hates Uro piles because you don't have to think anymore, no risks or thought just jam your value engines and either you win or you don't.

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>>74624201
>modern
jund, red prison, gr assault loam, u tron, grixis delver
>legacy
esper stoneblade, lands, elves, spanish inquisition
>pauper
ur skred
>coomemeder
niv reborn
>pokemon
raticate break poison

>> No.74632938

>>74632931
is raticate break fun?

>> No.74632951

>>74624195
The amulet titan discord is so bored of the new list with Dryad that they won't let vial titan not be a thing

>> No.74632967

>>74624201
UW Spirits
Storm
>Building
Amulet Titan
Lantern {rest in peace mox opal}

>> No.74632978

>>74624751
I definitely think all the staples should be snatched up, but you have a window till corona finishes. After stores really open back up/some big competitive events finally fire, everything in Modern is gonna SPIKE

>> No.74632984

>>74632978
>After stores really open back up/some big competitive events finally fire, everything in Modern is gonna SPIKE
Really? Because they have fucked up the game so bad during the lockdown that I think a lot of people have dropped out and will not come back

>> No.74632985

>>74632938
yes, it's basically the pokemon equivalent of infect since you can win very quickly with just one creature. raticate can poison a dude, then hyper fang him down to 10 health no matter what, and it'll die immediately as you pass the turn. do this every turn for 6 turns and you win (if you're not familiar with the rules, that's how they work).

>> No.74633024

>>74632985
I am an insectile degenerate unknown to humanity or shame, what Pokemon deck would I enjoy? is there something like dredge?

>> No.74633034

>>74632984
>they won't come back
Where else are these people going to go?
What's more you're right that people are disillusioned, they've done what Magic players always do. They sell EVERYTHING and leave. Then a year or 3 later they come back and of course want to buy into most of the things they had.

Also people have realized that Wizards isn't going to effectively reprint fetches this year, but Wizards is tightening their anus because they know the backlash is going to be huge. Expect some big fetchland print before mid 2021 which will further push modern sales as people realize they can build a landbase for it for less than $500

>> No.74633041

>>74633034
>Where else are these people going to go?
During the coronavirus lockdowns people learned that there is actually a lot of stuff out there to do.

>> No.74633365

>>74632560
Have fun trying to get those to pass at Legacy night.

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>>74633365
>tfw my FLGS's legacy night allows proxies and didn't have a compfag meltdown because people play for fun, not for prizes

>> No.74633396

>>74633388
You can have fun and try to win at the same time.
I have fun getting people DQ'd for fakes

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>>74633396
>tfw you get the two biggest LCS whales DQ'd and they stop buying and the LCS shuts down

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74633425

>>74633396
good for you. however, some people, don't care about the fake-ness of a card. we had custom set draft weekends like half a year ago, shit was so cash

>> No.74633428

>>74633034

Delusional copeshit.
What's actually going to happen is that Hasbro is going to dump the company.

>> No.74633440

>>74633409
Another proof that a wider audience not priced out by wotc, hasbro and scalpers would greatly benefit the ecosystem in its entirety and that whales are the backup plan of a dying business that's being killed on purpose.

>> No.74633451

>>74633409
based and ancappilled
also sauce

>> No.74633471

>>74633428
>copeshit

I don't have holdings or <investments> of any kind in mtg, I like the game

Hasbro will dry up the whales yes, people will get burnt out on Arena (won't last longer than hearthstone trust me) but Paper will draw people back, the price of Black Lotus will never return below 80k, nothing will ever dethrone Garfield's game as the key thing to sleeve up and play. Commander players will continue to create near constant demand for weird ass shit.

>> No.74633483

>>74632570
I wonder if anyone actually thinks we're in a better spot with the meta before MH when Looting was legal.

>> No.74633486

>>74633034
>Where else are these people going to go?
You act like Magic is literally the only hobby in existence.
People have been locked at home for like five months or some shit. Imagine being a Jund player. You can't play the game in person and that takes away from a huge amount of enjoyment playing the game. You are stuck inside, your deck gathering dust and its value draining away in real time. Now it is irrelevant in Modern, replaced by a gigantic pile of 2019-2020 cards that eats your lunch because it doesn't care about answers, and you get to watch the absolute bloodbath that is Standard with all these bungled sets like Ikoria introducing broken shit that pollutes whatever you care about.
You will find other things to do. I know some guys who were massive consoomers buying cases of Magic product, getting at least a box of every set, buying all the SL as soon as they dropped. Now they're just sick of it and they're into mountain climbing and video games. They have already sold out.
I am sure that there will be a lot of this.

>> No.74633503

>>74633471
Paper will only bring people back in if WotC makes major changes over the next couple years. It's going to take a long time to unfuck the game unless they just want to do massive bannings in every format.

>> No.74633520

>>74633503
they won't even apologize or admit they did anything wrong, and until they do I'm not even going to consider coming back

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>>74631988
>You crazy fucks used to be confined to only spouting your dumb shit on street corners, bothering a rather small number of people who usually pitied you for your mental issues. Giving you a bigger platform was a mistake.

>> No.74633563

Can someone explain to me how the heck people are supposed to make friends over Arena? There's no chat function, there's no chat lobby, and if you have friends IRL you'd be playing paper with them instead of playing over a simulator. What even is the point of Arena?

>> No.74633570

>>74633471
I do agree with the other anon. Pretending mtg is "too big to fail" is delusional. Pioneer fails to fire online when online is the only way like half of the world can play mtg. Modern and legacy are left to rot almost completely unregulated. Standard is a mess, as always. Mtg will transition to Magic: the edhing, and I just realized I could not have worded this sentence better.

All that is left for panic sellouts is some critical mass of mtg figures leaving, and wotc even countered that one by molding a pro scene of their chosing (MLP) where players are basically held hostage because they know their invites are dropped the second they criticise wotc. Which they are contractually forbidden to do anyway.

That all said, cube is still fun

>> No.74633599
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74633599

Anyone got that story about how wizards hated that we loved the vampire colonizers of ixalan and they deleted a poll or something. I always see it mentioned but never a link or a source.

>> No.74633609

>>74633563
you are not supposed to make friends.
arena is you in a dark box having your money extracted to play some crude bastardization of the game you once enjoyed

>> No.74633702

>>74633599
>Noooooo! You can't love the most compelling faction over the heckin' dinorino faction! Our research shows people love dinorinos! Noooooo

>> No.74633713

>>74633563
>What even is the point of Arena?
Seeing how it is programmed, the formats it supports, how little it is optimized etc, I would say it is made to make people quit mtg for good

>> No.74633771

>>74633702
Mayans would have worked better if they actually worked the duality of their societal advance and the barbarism of their rituals

>> No.74633776

>>74633599
You aren't going to find out shit about it because all the information was deleted by WotC and the only places that were calling it out were like a few posts on MTGSalvation that aren't there anymore either. I remember what happened during it though. They changed the format to some gay geolocation shit and then they ended up resetting the geolocation thing at least once too so that the Aztecs would win. A lot of people noticed it was really fishy and early on due to the geolocation thing you could see that the Mexicans, literally the direct descendants of the Asstecs, supported the Legion of Dusk too which was fucking hilarious.
WotC scrubbed everything and only this remains, which at least proves that they fucked with the system at least once
https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/vote-control-golden-city-2018-02-07

Then there's this damage control article published immediately afterwards by Hipsters of the Coast where the very first point is "thank god the Legion didn't win and if they were ever going to win it would have been super duper problematic and I'm sure they would have vetoed it"
https://www.hipstersofthecoast.com/2018/02/58868/
You might think "literally who cares" but Hipters of the Coast has a lot of direct ties to WotC and does damage control for them publishing articles backing them up after controversial decisions. A lot of the staff for it know WotC employees and they all share the same politics. Take that as you will

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>>74633702
SHOW ME where they said this you dummy pants. I want to have a good laugh at wizards creating kino accidentaly.

>> No.74633838

>>74633776
I'm always amazed how this plays out and wo der which is more idiotic
>Constantly refering to happenings in a fictional world as "problematic" as if there were any ties to reality
Vs
>Making fictional settings painfully obvious references to the real world, give people a choice and then act suprised when they vote for the coolest party instead of pretending we must right centuries old "wrongs" in this fictional setting

Baffling

>> No.74633856

>>74633838
They’re sheltered seattleites. The most exciting shit they have going out is imaginary issues and victories

>> No.74633877

>>74633838
One can only hope they make a WW2 themed set. Black facist zombies vs underpriviledged white kike-kin and such.

>> No.74633907

>>74633563
You just need to consoom and work as cannon meat to have a significative playerbase, thinking is not required.

>> No.74633938

>>74633776
oh boy HAHAHAHA. The geocaching link following that wizards article actually shows the Aztecs on the bottom so what happened there?
>https://www.geocaching.com/promotions/promo/magic/
I find it very comedic when woke people do the opposite of what they think is appealing and meaningful, people like it and then they demand to ban everything.

>> No.74633948

>>74633776
>That hipsters of the coast article
I want to howl at the moon in pain at the thought that someone actually got paid for writing this inane rambling, it physically hurts me

>> No.74633955

>>74633563
It's a fun way to play MTG without getting overly-invested. It teaches newcomers how to play the game, it allows people to get the urge to play out of their system, and considering how easy it is to get wildcards you can make a Standard-ready deck for only $100 as opposed to having to study microeconomics and get insider-information to make a net negative of $100 after blowing upwards of $550 just to be competitive in paper.

>> No.74633961

>>74633877
But kikes are blue black

>> No.74633981

>>74633961
then who would be white? the soviets, who get their cities sieged and whose men die trying to hold the line?

>> No.74634002

>>74633781
They already did this kind of thing before with Mirrodin. They made it seem like there was a choice between Mirrodin and Phyrexia winning, but Phyrexia was always going to win. The choice was a lie, the books had already been written and the set had already been made with Phyrexia dunking on Mirrodin and the way it was all timed, there was no way your decision could have changed things even if WotC cared.
Shitxalan was supposed to be the same thing. The Sun Empire was always supposed to win because all the other factions were "the bad guys"
>Legion of Dusk are white and proud conquistadors, literally Hitlersatan
>Pirates are criminals
>Merfolk are not human and Kumena is an asshole
So imagine how mad those buttboys were when they released the first poll and the Legion was BTFOing everyone else. IIRC they actually reset the poll, and then the Legion was still shitting on everyone so they said the poll was inaccurate and switched over to the geocache thing which was even more embarrassing because the Legion was still winning and you could see that even Latinos support the Legion so they reset that at least once and possibly two or three times because people were howling on MTGSalvation about how it wasn't moving or it was losing numbers

>> No.74634009

>>74633961
Remember that wotc makes the sets, not us

>> No.74634024

>>74633981
Soviets are pretty white in the sense that they incarnate the worst of white. They’re also black due to how worthless life is for their higher ups

>> No.74634181

>>74631753
>people have been dropped by their bank due to online activities.
Source?

>> No.74634203

>>74634002
This is so insanely pathetic
>No, you must be on the RIGHT side of our fictional fantasy setting

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>We don't want it to be easy for you to splash other colors
>We are going to make it so that each color has a way of doing everything (like Black enchantment removal)
Fuck this guy.

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74634299

>We DO pander to commander
At least he is honest for once

>> No.74634402

It still surprises me how bad of a company WotC is

>> No.74634451

>>74631796
>Doesn't use the stack
I mean, at least you're completely wrong about that part. It does in fact use the stack, so if an opponent judges it into their yard you can wait for them to be done dredging and then surgical extraction the creeping chill out of their yard in response to its own trigger.

>> No.74634483

>>74634402
Turns out you really can treat your customers like garbage because they'll just keep on consooming regardless

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So the new Nahiri seems pretty cool. Good? Maybe. But at least cool. So I'm trying to think of excuses to play. She's boros and I have this old boros equipment deck laying around so maybe something like this. But she cares about creature type Warrior too, so maybe that will be relevent in the new block. Maybe some pushed boros Warrior or something that pairs with her.

https://decks.tcgplayer.com/magic/modern/kooba3/goblin-engineer/1360060

>> No.74634704

>>74634501
No one cares kooba, go back to losing to the arena AI

>> No.74634817
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>>74632560
yes, yes, proxies of course

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>>74634817
insanely based

>> No.74635027

>>74634817
Where did you have these printed? They look good

>> No.74635114

>>74624201
>Modern
Kibler Big Zoo
>pauper
G stompy
>edh
38 draft chaff decks

>> No.74635118

>>74634817
if you played this against me i'd call a judge and have you removed.

>> No.74635137

from /pol/
>>>/pol/275118703

>> No.74635171

>>74635137
what's the point of tapping it when you have to tap a creature to attack?

>> No.74635185

>>74635137
This is literally just a worse Justice Strike, which fits the image better

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>>74635171
Ah I see you've forgot the keywords

>> No.74635224

>>74635171
Gets around vigilance I suppose

>> No.74635230

>>74635171
To screw creatures with vigilance
>>74635185
new standard has these buffed bears with one extra toughtness. Also Justice Strike doesn't target players.

>> No.74635270

>>74635137
that's a pretty well designed card
>>74635185
the guy didn't shoot himself

>> No.74635285

>>74635137
>doesn't target planeswalkers
into the trash it goes

>> No.74635294

>>74633981
Yugo resistance

>> No.74635319

>>74634501
Don't ever stop.

>> No.74635321
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>>74633961
Jews are orzhov, they just conquered the dimir and are employing their methods.
Us dimir renegades are trying to regain control of our guild just like lavinia did when dovin baan gained control over the azorius guild due to bolas.

>> No.74635346

>>74635137
Better than their previous attempt.

>> No.74635347

>>74634501
Based Kooba

>> No.74635361

>>74634501
>So the new Nahiri seems pretty cool.
No.
>Good?
Absolutely not.

>> No.74635367

>>74635321
Lol get fucked, dimir were always the worst guild.

>> No.74635368

>>74635270
Justice Strike does damage equal to the creature's power because it's getting punished for its own evil, reaping what it's sown, etc. It's basically "fuck around and find out." That's why it's called Justice Strike. It works much better for the card on its own.

>> No.74635371

>>74635367
:(

>> No.74635373

>>74635285
This
It should be "any target" since the planeswalker rules changed

>> No.74635378

>>74635371
Alright, fine, other than the izzet, golgari, and gruul. Happy?

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>>74635378
The izzet are our homies.
They use linux!

>> No.74635471

>>74635118
And everyone in a 3-mile radius including yhe judge would take turns kicking your ass for being so soi and cringe. Some people would be waiting for weeks as we'd need to let you recover between near-death beatings so you can fully feel everything.

>> No.74635485

>>74635118
>implying faggots like you are worth playing with

>> No.74635512

>>74635367
>he thinks the dimir guild exists
Unironically take your meds schizo.
There are only 9 guilds in ravnica, incel.

>> No.74635543

>>74634501
Free equip, you could like do something cool with Fervent Champion and Sunforger. Unattach from the Kor to Fervent and instant cast stuff.

>> No.74635545

>>74635471
>letting him recover
Lame

>> No.74635562
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74635562

larp or real?

>> No.74635576

>>74633563
>What even is the point of Arena?
It's to turn the game over to secondaries and milk it for everything it's got while slowly cancelling paper magic.

>> No.74635577

>>74635562
Every time someone posts something from Reddit here I feel myself losing braincells. I don't know how people can even stomach these idiots. I can see why Wizards just gleefully fleeces its userbase if this is an accurate representation of their mental capacities.

>> No.74635591

>>74635562
>new art by sam rowan
>at a specific collectors number
This is 'tism.

>> No.74635600

>>74635562
Extreme autism or it's real.

>> No.74635603

Is Dreadhorde arcanist good enough to put into a Mono Red Arclight Phoenix deck?

Been thinking of going like this creature wise:
4 Arclight Phoenix's
4 Soul Scar Mages
4 Young Pyromancer
3 Runaway Steam-kin
2 Ox of Agonas

The rest is spells. Is this good enough? Do i have too many creatures?

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>>74635577
>he thinks he knows pain

>> No.74635630

>>74635591
It's a leak i think, it's a bit too specific.

>> No.74635653

>>74633563
My theory is to get rid of paper MtG slowly. Chat and Friend Lists can be implemented later.
With Corona-chan going rampage and LGS being closed, Hasbro might push it way harder.
Arena cost almost nothing to implement compared to paper magic.

>> No.74635667

>>74635630
Anyone can make a throwaway account and list a bunch of seemingly random specific stuff for attention. I'll still keep it in the leak file though like I did the wedge leaker and the mt. gag leaker since those were weirdly specific and were also true.

>> No.74635682

>>74635604

i'm not recommending anyone does this, but if you want to gaze into the abyss, go visit the legacy sub on reddit
you will immediately realize the utter futility of our situation

>> No.74635685

>>74635653
Imagine killing your most profitable part of your business willingly though.

I simply think they have people in charge who are complete idiots.

>> No.74635690

>>74635653
that would be stupid since whales will go after Hasbro and WotC heads.
They also are the ones who keep the game alive.

>> No.74635692

>>74635630
>Leak
>So yeah that's my wish list
Maybe if this is the reddit way of doing leaks so accounts don't get banned or something

>> No.74635698
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74635698

Why not just reprint Lotus Cobra with this art?

>> No.74635700

>>74635685
Disney killed Star Wars by shitting on their loyal fans so I wouldn't be surprised.

>> No.74635720

>>74635698
>Terese Nielsen
the sjw in wotc would never allow the art from a terf

>> No.74635722

>>74635692
I took it as a very sarcastic "wish" list of listing stuff that might be true.

>>74635667
Yeah you're right, i'll keep it in mind but then again it's gonna be spoiled this week anyway so hookers.

>> No.74635723

>>74635512
Dimir got revealed as existing tenth guild at the end of OG block.
Since then they pretend to be postal service, archivists and librarians.

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>>74635604
For example, reddit are orzhov thrulls.

>> No.74635740

>>74635698
I've heard in other places that they were gonna reprint Cobra tho.

>> No.74635763

>>74635562
Mt gag leaker supports this
>>>/vg/305381278

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>>74635562
>>74635667
The plot thickens

>> No.74635775

Ideas for mono blue casual/multiplayer decks that aren't gay?

I want to build some fun interactive decks for my friends and every other color and combo I have a lot of ideas for but mono blue is eh.
Please don't suggest Talrand or anything token based.

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>>74635723
Guys guys!!!
I found out the tenth guild! They're the dimi... wait... why is the guildpact falling apart?

>> No.74635779

Does anyone else not give a shit about anything until they actually hold people accountable for FIRE first? They could reprint fetchlands and I wouldn't care because I want someone fired for FIRE

>> No.74635800

>>74635779
The man responsible for FIRE is the President or R&D, Aaron Forsythe. He's going nowhere unless the highest brass of WotC want him gone.

>> No.74635810

>>74635545
Recover IN BETWEEN beatings, to let his nerves recover and feel the full brunt of the next beating

>> No.74635848

>>74635810
he doesn't deserve nerves

>> No.74635849

>>74635775
define "gay". mono-blue has
>card draw/sorting
>counterspells
>bouncing permanents to hand
>freezing (tapping permanents, sometimes for a few turns)
>overcosted creatures
>dorks with evasion
>fish tribal
and if you wanna look at pre-modern times
>Donate and Visions of Grandeur
there's plenty of casual decks that can be made with the color, but until i know what "gay" means to you i can't help you choose the right deck.

>> No.74635858

>>74635848
then why even beat him if he can't feel it?

>> No.74635874
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74635874

>>74635775
Paradox Engine
Bunch of 2cmc mana rocks
Paradoxical Outcome
Pull From Tomorrow
Etc.

Wincons are Aetherflux Reservoir (Storm style kill), milling them to death with Jace's Archivist in one turn (funny as fuck), or hardcasting Emmy Cool.
The deck is absolute jank, perfect for casual/multiplayer.

>> No.74635945

>>74635858
It's still gratifying, I promise.

>> No.74635960

>>74635945
I don't beat people for personal pleasure. I beat them... for society

>> No.74635969

>>74635960
ur doin it wrong

>> No.74636002

>>74635698
>free growth spiral for standard
lmao

>> No.74636020

>>74635874
Oh... and I guess you could run that 2cmc blue card with a certain je ne sais quoi. I stopped playing with the deck years ago, so I only have an old list in my head.

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>>74635779

>> No.74636066

>>74635849
Gay is just stuff not fun to play against, subjective I know.
I just want something that isn’t oppressive.
Btw I’d likely replace counterspells with something like Divert

>> No.74636067

>>74636044
It took time for reddit thrulls and wotc shills to come up with this ad hominem, but it's finally here.

>> No.74636120
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>>74636066
monoblue is literally nothing but things that make faggots feel bad
>bounce your shit
>counter your shit
>tap down your shit on reaction so you can't attack or block
>bounce your shit and then counter it when you try to replay it
>bounce your shit while it's still literally on the stack
>counter it
>mill your shit so you never even get to have the card in your hand
if you live your life trying to avoid making peabrains get the feelsbads then you will never be happy and you will also be pathetic

>> No.74636129

>>74636044
Incredibly stupid insinuations aside, my only real complaint is "X don't."

>> No.74636151

>>74636120
Yeah. He'd probably have a fucking aneurysm if he got milled out by a Jace's Archivist, it seems.

>> No.74636179

While I'm still being too poor to buy goyfs(why they weren't in 2XM I don't know) what can act as a reasonable replacement? I was thinking either scooze, or hexdrinker do the best job, but grimflayer doesn't look too bad if I have any cards that do reasonable in the grave.

>> No.74636189

>>74636151
No dude, I own all the blue degenerate shit, but I want casual fun.
Infinite/I win combos are on the gay side

>> No.74636254

>>74636179
pissdrinker is uselessly slow
scooze is a good bet since uropiles outnumber every other deck by like a million and then monored is close behind

>> No.74636292

>>74636189
>requires a Paradox Engine, Archivist off of summoning sickness, a boardstate loaded with mana rocks and/or a rather specific hand
>also requires your opponent has no significant amount of untapped lands or you're probably going to draw them into something that disrupts you or entirely destroys your deck
>REEEEEE THAT'S DEGENERATE
Holy shit, faggot.

>> No.74636329

>>74636292
I didn’t say anything specific about the archivist combo retard

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>>74636329

>> No.74636362

>>74636292
he's probably trolling by setting up an impossible request to just waste your time
this type of trolling is common

>> No.74636396

>>74636362
I should have known better, honestly.

>> No.74636434

>>74636292
>>74636360
>>74636396
When did I specifically comment about your combo? I never said no to it.
You said I’d have an aneurism off of some stupid combo, I said I actually own degenerate shit but I want lower power decks. That’s all, you can’t read.

>> No.74636462

>>74636434
>everything I don't like is gay
Your mistake is thinking we care about anything you say now.

>> No.74636471

>>74636462
You’re gay>>74636462

>> No.74636549

I'm gay no one will see this

>> No.74636556

>>74624201
Modern
>G tron, RW Hammer, Merfolk, Infect, Mono R, 4c Astral Drift, Twiddle.
Commander
>Too many to count but I usually play Tuvasa, Nu Captain Sisay and Krenko.
Cube has been what I’ve focusing on along with a home brew format my buddies and I made up:
>60 card decks, you can use any card that’s ever been printed in a theme, event, or sealed Non commander constructed deck put out by wizards.
Pretty fun

>> No.74636572

>>74636549
post bussy

>> No.74636579

>>74636556
>Astral Drift
post list

>> No.74636597

>>74636572
I'm not a bottom tho sorry

>> No.74636599

>>74636556
>Commander
>Too many to count
That's unironically sad.

>> No.74636616

>>74636597
I'll teach you.

>> No.74636673

>>74636579
How often are you on here? I’ll post it tomorrow. Also the deck sucked dick.
But off the top of my head:
3 Kitchen finks
3 Siege Rhino
2 Wasteland Strangler
4 Kitesail freebooter
2 forget his name, 5/5 elemental with persist destroys a permanent on etb

4 astral drift
3 FoN (have 12 since I kept pulling them)
2 Green Force that destroys artifacts and enchantments
4 censor
4 paths
2 dismember

3 Green cycle land
3 white cycle land
2 blue cycle land
2 black cycle land
4 windswept heath
3 flooded strands
2 breeding pool
3 temple garden
2 Watery Crypts
1 overgrown tomb
3 Hallowed fountains
3 of each basic to round it off

Had extra FoN, Surgicals, The sphere that hoses Tron, 2 katakis, and 3 engineered explosives

>> No.74636691

>>74636599
Yea 9 years Playing it will do that to you, I took apart 90% of them for the ever growing cube though

>> No.74636694

>>74636673
I will check back here tomorrow because I want to see this list. I have 4 promo Assdrifts and maybe I can have some fun with friends

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>>74635562
>Creature that gets a copy of itself from your sideboard on ETB

>> No.74636702

whats the most nigger card, /mmg/?

>> No.74636726

>>74636702
3feri

>> No.74636788
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>>74636702

>> No.74636804

>>74636702
These anons here are correct.
>>74636726
>>74636788

>> No.74636888

>>74636702
Uro

>> No.74636959

>>74636701
We've come to a point where fundamentally stupid stuff isn't even worth getting annoyed over, seeing how there will inevitably be stuff that is absurdly and clearly broken.

I wonder if this card used to be a companion

>> No.74637011

>>74636959
MaRo did imply that they wanted to do more companions.
I honestly believe that they expected companions to be a huge success everyone loved and then they would have had 1-2 companions every set like the new PWs

>> No.74637080

>74636549
It should be illigal to be gay

>> No.74637143

>>74637080
It is in some countries.

>> No.74637157

>>74637080
Move to Russia, live your dream.

>> No.74637201

>>74636549
Post cock

>> No.74637225

>>74636120
>bounce your shit
But this is fun as fuck

>> No.74637467

>>74633776
2020 has taught me that I will never be able to comprehend how crowded the Malebolge is.

>> No.74637544

>>74636044
>words words words
Whole lotta butthurt made this image.

>> No.74637588
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>>74637011
What if Companions worked more like pic related?
You can pay some cost and replace a draw for your companion to go into your hand.

>> No.74637597

>>74637588
what if your wife orbits my dick

>> No.74637608

>>74637544
It looks like something straight outta r/socialism. It's probably a parody of leftist memes and you just feel for the bait we best hope.

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74637626

>buy a playset of runed halo for $160 in 2018
>my playset is now worth $0.80
i have no words, am i the biggest cuck on this planet?

>> No.74637627

>>74637588
What if you stopped rambling about fictional """"fixed"""" versions of companion and ended yourself kooba

>> No.74637645

>>74637627
>the day kooba defended companions
he will never live it down

>> No.74637654

>>74637627
who hurt you?

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>>74637626
He bought?

>> No.74637676

>>74637225
based and moonpilled

>> No.74637683

>>74637626
I was trying to find a card who crashed harder than halo so you could feel better but i can't think of any other card who literally -99.5%, sorry anon.

>> No.74637687

>>74637011
>We eventually get the Companion zone
>We'd have EDH + Companions
>Partner commanders + Companions
Why stop there? We can incorporate Oathbreaker and Brawl rules too!
>Partner Commanders
>Companion
>Loyal Planewalker fren that can also partner with another planeswalker
>Oathbreaker Spell
You know, just casually having a second hand of cards to play. It'd be fun, interesting, replayable as all heck and absolutely exciting.

>> No.74637697

>>74637683
B...but... muh value!

>> No.74637711

>>74637687
You just described yugioh.

>> No.74637725

>>74637697
Here kids, that's why your portfolio should only be composed of RL cards.

>> No.74637734

>>74637687
Getting to play the exact same cards every single game on the exact term technically fits under a definition of "replayable".

>> No.74637739

>>74637645
It was more like a month tbqh

>>74637654
/ccg/ in /mmg/ hurts me physically

>> No.74637757
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>>74637626
Yes
What were you expecting to happen?

>> No.74637760

>>74637739
the saddest part is that they're now printing cards that would get you roasted on /ccg/
this game is foegod tier

>> No.74637761

>>74637645
he went from mmg cute autistic mascott down to most hated faglord in 2 posts. He must regret so hard the day he tried to shill for coompanions.

>> No.74637774

Is XMage worth the download?
How easy is it to get a friendly match or playing off meta decks?

>> No.74637791

>>74637757
idk, maybe a dip around 20 bux a pop, but 20 cents... i feel like i got raped by a big circumcised kosher dick.

>> No.74637811

>>74637761
His idea of a "fixed" companion was an equipment that you can only cast if you have Thalia on the field and then for 2 butthole mana you get to summon a Thaliasword out of thin air and equip it to Thalia for free to give Thalia +1/+1 and he said it's balanced because "it's not a big boost and it has flavor"

>> No.74637835

>>74637761
I honestly always liked him and still do for just, you know, posting about mtg and brewing around.

Nowadays he is kind of indistinguishable from a very slow spambot tbqh

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>>74637791
What have you learned?

>> No.74637851

>>74637835
He just posts the same retarded deck over and over with 1 card changed each time

>> No.74637879

>>74637774
It is. It's super easy to drop in and out of matches etc
Though it's better if you know what yoj want to play, downloading all card images in existence is quite prone to problems

No idea about playing modern with randoms though. I mostly use it for friends and drafts

>> No.74637912

>>74637757
>ywn smell like garbage and piss
>ywn attack people's cats because they happened to spot you eating trash
>ywn be torn apart by Beagles while a hideous Anglo chases you on horseback
>ywn have your corpse sodomized by said Anglo

>> No.74637921

>>74637851
this, muh maverick

>> No.74637938

>>74637851
I honestly wouldn't know, I aways just ignored the link, but I suppose it makes sense.

>> No.74637949

>>74637846
Cards who can be reprinted are intrinsically worthless, i guess?

>> No.74637958

>>74637879
>downloading all card images in existence is quite prone to problems
What exactly do you mean? As you're downloading them or while you're actually playing after you've finished downloading?

>> No.74637978
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>>74637912
Stay far from the swamps and you should be alright

>> No.74638038

>>74637958
For me there always seemed to occur some problem when I did it, probably some rare promo version of a card lost to time but it always stopped the whole Download

Though that was probably 7 years ago, it very likely is fixed nowadays. Or it was just my problem to begin with.
Oh and what is additionally nice is that you can import custom set (read:cube) lists on xmage, draft and play them with friends

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>>74637949

>Cards who can be reprinted are intrinsically worthless, i guess?

>blood moon reprinted for the 500th time
>original printing increases in value
really, really gets my noggin a joggin, as they say

>> No.74638138

>>74638038
>draft and play them with friends
Don't make me feel bad, anon, it's the weekend.

>> No.74638479

>>74638108
>always the same tired "muh 4 horsemen, muh alpha bolt" argument
yawnnnn, yeah ok brainlet, minus alpha, happy?

>> No.74638510

>>74638108
Why don't you take the 8th ed. for your example? Oh right, it went from 45 down to 8 bux. Faggot.

>> No.74638596

>>74638108
yeah it is a good jog for a nog
why don't people and "investors" realize it's a bubble and cash out instead of buying a 300$ jusam djinn or 500$ alpha birds or whatever they cost

>> No.74638867

>>74638596
Maybe because the fiat currencies' bubble is a thousand time more inflated?
I'd unironically prefer to hoard 10 alpha birb than $50,000 in cash right now.

>> No.74638938

Reminder that Arena and Bo1 are the future of Magic

>> No.74639015

>>74638938
>no pioneer
>no modern
>no legacy
>no vintage
fuck off

>> No.74639029

>>74639015
>modern
>legacy
haha uro go buaaaagh

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74639049

>>74638479

>blood moon was printed in alpha

/mmg/ experts never cease to amaze

>> No.74639063
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>>74638479
>minus alpha

>> No.74639077

>>74639029
Why didn't you include pioneer in uro.formats?

>> No.74639082

>>74639077
I've never touched it and don't know the meta, he bad there too? lol of course he is....

>> No.74639187

>>74639049
>>74639063
>doesn't know what 4 horsemen stand for
D-do you really think you can teach me anything about mtg? I was already chasing FBB miscuts you were still wearing diapers.
You don't even get your own "muh alpha remain valuable" meme, you truly are irredeemable...

>> No.74639198

>>74639029
>>74639077
he will get banned
even if he doesn't, I rather kill myself than play Standard for the rest of my life

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>>74639187
>blodo moon
>alpha

>> No.74639251

>check last t1.5 top8
>legacy show&tell splashing green for uro
it remind me of oko

>> No.74639257

>>74639198
Uro getting banned is as likely as Wizards of the Coast getting peacefully burned down and looted by peaceful protestors.

>> No.74639265

>>74639235
I never said it was alpha, everyone knows moon is from arabian nights ffs...

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74639287

>>74639198
>he will get banned
they banned teferi from standard and historic because they admitted he is inherently broken and will do nothing but cause problems in the future
then they kept him legal in the eternal formats with powerlevels 50x higher
he will never leave

>> No.74639288

>>74639265
>I never said it was alpha

>"blood moon reprinted for the 500th time"
>"original printing increases in value"

You:
>"minus alpha" (referring to Blood Moon's original print)

bro I don't even have to scroll up to see you post this shit....

>> No.74639328

>>74639288
I said alpha in reference of
>muh alpha only increase in value!
not in reference of blood moon. But if you want i can post my playset of the dark signed moon *sigh*

>> No.74639341

>>74639328
>But if you want i can post my playset of the dark signed moon *sigh*
Only if they're each ripped into 4 or more pieces.

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74639347

>>74639328
Ah, so you're a retard trying to strawman and not just a plain old retard.
Coolio. Thanks for clarifying.

>> No.74639357

>>74639287
I claim this since 2015 : the main goal of wotc is to kill every single eternal format. Either by making them into a shitshow or by transforming them in forced perma-rotating formats, which is exactly the same thing.

>> No.74639367

>>74639357
well they succeeded, everything sucks

>> No.74639398

>>74639367
Yep , goal's acheived.
The fun thing is they could have done so by drastically increasing the quality of standard. But it's, by their own admission, not something they have the ability to do. They are bankrupts on every levels but financially.

>> No.74639429
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74639429

>>74639398
what's the matter son
why can't you comprehend all this fun
we even put cripples, heckin' cute doggerinos, and epic memes on the cards just for you

>> No.74639435

>>74639347
No, you are the retard for trying to shine in society with your newborn level of mtg knowledge. So of course you get rekt when you face someone truly knowledgeable.

>> No.74639471
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74639471

>>74639435
>someone truly knowledgeable.
Ah yes, like you, the retard who thought Blood Moon was printed in Alpha, then had to
backtrack to save face. Yes, so knowledgeable, very someone.

You're a retard pretending to be retarded so people don't think you're a retard. Begone.

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74639476

>>74639429
The people in charge of this shitshow deserve pic related, but given their numale jaw capabilities they would probably survive unscathed.

>> No.74639501

>>74639429
>look at how HARD we worked on sharknaderino :
>'haha add some *braaaap* dude'
>'lmao so fun, lets also do *flbrpprrr* because why not'
>'hey dudes, why not add this je-ne-sais-quoinerino *plop* so it truly feels like a rare? ahah!'

I hate kikes so fucking much.

>> No.74639514

>>74639471
No, you are so dumb you can't understand the farce you truly are while i'm mocking your kind. I only feel pity for you.

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>>74639514

>> No.74639547

>>74639429
>heckin' cute doggerinos
ngl they are though

>> No.74639572

>>74639501
I wish I had a job this easy.
And doesn't the staff say they don't get paid enough? Paid enough for fucking what?

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>>74639547

>> No.74639698

>>74639606
Why do you have this cursed image saved on your device.

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74639707

>>74639606
pic related is you, stay mad

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