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GW heroic scale edition.
Resources (Rules, Lore and Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay)
WFB: https://pastebin.com/qVGrgwwh (embed)
WFRP: https://pastebin.com/inbyBsR6 (embed)
Novels: https://pastebin.com/6FV6bSNQ (embed)

> Alternative Warhammer Miniatures and Manufacturers
https://pastebin.com/2aqCz6fh (embed)

> Warhammer Wikis

> Warhammer Video Games
https://pastebin.com/DU3DE1vv (embed)

Previously, on /wfg/: >>74113183

>> No.74138953
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First for trees

>> No.74139165
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Is it possible for there to be a non-autistic Dwarven Slayer?

>> No.74139415

>is it possible to be a non autistic dwarf

>> No.74139678

it's wfg, everything is autistic

>> No.74139680

>can you have a member of the dwarves that are autistic even by the standards of the already inhumanly autistic dwarves be non autistic

>> No.74139693

>op pic isn't even partially wfg related

good going smooth brain

>> No.74139923

Have you seen the daemon prince model? It's related

>> No.74140301
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Speaking of Dorfs, how to use a Runelord/Runesmith in a story, thread?

They're so intractable and close-minded, even by the usual standards of their kind, and have so many rules as to make them whipping up some cool Runic items as hard as possible, I can't think of how to make much use out of them.

Anyone have any suggestions as to how I could get around that? If you need an example of what I'd want to use, just imagine Thorek, he's pretty much the ur-Runelord.

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Time 2 paint

>> No.74141065

Looking at trying my hand at 6th ed, what do you all use to listbuild?

Battlescribe doesn't have any 6th ed files - am i actually going to have to use the B O O K S?

>> No.74141131

Save some soul for the rest of us, if you keep using so much of it we could run out

>> No.74141147

Can you imagine a non-autistic dwarf? Dwarfs aren't humans and don't think like humans.

>> No.74141183


>> No.74141205

Now now, he could still fuck this up at the painting stage. Let's not get out the torches and pitchforks until we see how that turns out.

In all seriousness >>74140382, that's fucking spectacular, and I can't wait to see it finished. Good luck!

>> No.74141208

this aint warhammer, chief

>> No.74141219

Those look lovely. How did you do them?

>> No.74141313

>Dwarfs don't think
No, they don't

>> No.74141543

Oh that's a good idea, draw the banner and then paint it.

>> No.74141848

I once had an oc who was a Runesmith, who had a character conflict of " do i risk breaking with tradition to regain the lost arts?". His desire to be a Runesmith was born when his grandfather had his prized rune lamp broken in the process of saving him as a young bearling from orcs, and he promised to make him a new one. However, his centuries of training taught him how much has been lost, and how much of what survived was focused on combat and not the miraculous baubles that he loved hearing the graybeards go on and on about "back in my days, everything had runes on it. Part of this comes down to his young for a Runesmith age, as he has only ever lived under High King Grudgebearer.

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This is going to take a while.

I'm no terribly happy with the eye of god so far, but the monster faces are turning out perfectly.

Thank you for the (you)s they make me happy.

>> No.74142031

You _are_ blanche aren't you?

>> No.74142133

I swear this hobby is transcendent

>> No.74142360

Looks like something I’d see in the mordheim book, I love it anon. Is this some seperate artwork for your warband or do you intend to paste it on a banner

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It's the BSB's B

>> No.74143252

Those are some really useful suggestions. The thought of tendrils coming off the weapon and enveloping the wielder is something I too considered but that in combination with giving the weapon the odd sapient-looking eye (maybe in combination with the wielder's face being more or less covered in tendrils who have snaked themselves up from the weapon-arm) seems like a really good way to go about it.

>> No.74143380

That's bloody marvellous, mate.
I love the somewhat nervous look and pouty lips of the Eye of God thingy.

>> No.74143424

Games Workshop should hire you for their art design team, your shit is great!

>> No.74143491

Sigmar was just Drachenfels in disguise

>> No.74143565
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I'm looking to get a dwarf slayer war machine, preferably of the melee persuasion. I'm considering getting the Goblin Hewer and mounting it on some sort of steam-powered tractor - but maybe a third party company have better options. Do any of you know where I could get such a contraption?

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Everything is within the flows of causality.

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You got it anon.

I was listening to Forces on loop.

>> No.74143990
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What are some essential sources of Warhammer lore? And why Warhammer RPG books aren't consider canonic?

>> No.74144089


are you using Acrylic or watercolour?

>> No.74144104

The RPGs are created by different companies, and GW didn't/doesn't want to have an encyclopedic knowledge of what another company is writing to avoid contradictions, but pretty much everything in them can be taken as canon just fine.

If you want general canon, the RPG books are a good start. If you want novels, read the first gotrek and felix books. If you want lore on a specific race, read their army books. If you want just pure lore injected directly into your veins, Liber Chaotica, Liber Necris, and The Loathsome Ratmen: And all their Vile Kin

>> No.74144105

Need some appropriate combat music for my wfrp campaign

>> No.74144116 [DELETED] 

Just my normal model paints so that it ties in better with my army.

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Watered down model paints, so that it uses the same colors as my models.

And because it's what I've got.

>> No.74144260


Duly noted, You’ve inspired me to try out something similar.

>> No.74144296

Thank you.

>> No.74144676


>> No.74144735

Checkout game soundtracks, Vermintide, Total War, Dragon Age, The Witcher Series any of that kind of shit.

>> No.74144774

Flock on old Citadel Woods.

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Witnessing for Sotek intensifies. What is everyone else working on?

Waiting on a free moment to start working on the ripperdactyl things. These are going to be the tactical equivalent of vultures, picking off isolated wizards, warmachines and units that break and run while the saurus bricks get stuck in elsewhere.

>> No.74144986

Do Bretonnians and Imperials foster their noble children as squires or ladies in waiting for other noble families? I can't recall it mentioned anywhere but it also seems to be somewhat of a given examples in history like Aetius.

>> No.74145064

Working on tiddy minis as is my wont.

>> No.74145085


Post tiddies.

>> No.74145207
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Australian figures shipped from discount European Mexico for some reason.

>> No.74145311

Details. Where are they from?

>> No.74145329
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>want to start a Bretonnia army
>tfw when you realize that if you pick Quenelles and spam unicorn heraldry, retards will joke that your army is gay

>> No.74145347

Where's your blog anon?

>> No.74145368
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Lionfish games outta Perth, "Order of the Indigo cross" Kickstarter from late November of last year.

Have "Always, 2009 mix" by Erasure downloaded on your phone and blast them with it at full volume every time you charge. Then they'll truly see that wishes do come true.

>> No.74145390

They won't joke about your army being gay, they'll joke about you being a brony.

>> No.74145969
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>pick Quenelles
>everything has to be white and blue and unicorn related
You're at fault here, this mindset is autistic, sure as fuck you'll have fair share of lion/dragon/sword heraldry in every dukedom. And besides, why care what illiterate faggots say? Unicorn was in medieval (and bretonnian) heraldry long before filthy homisexuals started to use it as their symbol. It's a homozoomer thing that's not even 10 years old.

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Does anyone know where I can find the round, plain shields that GW used to make?

>> No.74146443

Bloodbowl Deathroller?

>> No.74146451

Which Empire Provice should I pick to portray as my guys?

>> No.74146452

Unicorns had a really bad reputation for raping virgin women.

>> No.74146455

Yes. There's examples in fluff and rules for both.

>> No.74146470

This is gonna be great my dude

>> No.74146574
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I'm fairly sure the old Whirlwind and Tenderiser are pretty expensive to pick up second hand, but could give you some more ideas.

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is there a WHF equivalent of the Dutch?

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>> No.74146643
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Had a wee look and in addition to the 3 or 4 deathroller variants GW have released over the decades there are a number of 3rd party "fantasy football" ranges out there with their own versions.
Star Player Miniatures and Willy Miniatures being 2 of them.

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Iron Golems also have a miniature that is just a slayer with a dozerblade.

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you know for some reason that has me thinking of the Dwarves making a fantasy version of this with axe blades on the ends of the chain

>> No.74147004

Ok dumb dumb, I'll humor you.
>citation needed

>> No.74147015

Ebay and a few companies make metal ones.

>> No.74147069

>symbol of purity, goodnes, nobility and sacrifice
>allegory of Christ
>rApINg vIRgInS
Retard, just leave.

>> No.74147117
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If Oglaf wrote the End Times, how would they be improved?

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I haven't been checking these threads as much lately but feel blessed by Sigmar to witness this

>> No.74147348

Hey /wfb/!
You want dumb lore that does nothing but provoke arguments?
Have my timeline I made a few years ago. It combines all the Oldhammer stuff from the RPG and Army books with the 4e+ fluff (that barely changes).


It's interesting to see how much was added just by WFB 4e and how much was laid down back between 1984 and 1987.

>> No.74147817

Blood on the Reik
Life of Sigmar
Empire at War
Gotrek and Felix (only like the first four books)
Loathsome Ratmen
Witch Hunter's Handbook
Liber Necris
Liber Chaotica is alright but there's some 40k shit shoved into it, so I'd call it a maybe unless you want that kinda thing.

>> No.74147826

You'd have some decent comedy aspects like old Warhammer. A lot less grim derp.

>> No.74147832

the 40k stuff isnt really relevant beyond "some chaos warrior has a demon weapon that might be a chainsword"

>> No.74147846

Archaon now literally fucks everyone instead of metaphorically doing it.

>> No.74147883

I'm pretty sure Draigo shows up or is alluded to.

>> No.74147917

Unless its in the tzeench book (which I mostly skimmed) I dont believe that happens.

Theres allusions to the traitor legions of the HH, but those are just visions some dude has.

>> No.74147934

True. The 40krap's easily ignored.

>> No.74147948

Yea, its just an easter egg.

>> No.74147972
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You would think at the very least dwarves would have come up with various mining machines which could then be converted to battle use should need arise.

>> No.74148013

In Liber Chaotic the author gets visions of the 40k branch of chaotic shite but you can still keep it fairly separate.
That said I like the idea that even if the Warhammer world isn't in the 40k universe/timeline the warp happens to link the two and sometimes things fall or move between them.

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Also the Slann are still space frogs however it goes so Amazon laser weapons are always going to be valid at the very least.

>> No.74148120

>even if the Warhammer world isn't in the 40k universe/timeline the warp happens to link the two
Then that would make them linked/part of the same universe or setting, which a lotta people don't want nor like.

>> No.74148147

GW considers the RPG to be canon (or at least as canon as Black Library novels due to the rigid approval process), but WFRP adds nuance and detail to the otherwise stereotyped, locked-in way the races of the wargame are portrayed. This has a weird effect of upsetting people on /wfg/, and isn't really seen outside of this general.

>> No.74148240

>This has a weird effect of upsetting people on /wfg/
Everything upsets us anon. Everything.

>> No.74148326

>to the otherwise stereotyped, locked-in way the races of the wargame are portrayed.
What a bunch of lies. It is WHFR that nails down sterotypes not WHFB and you bloody know it.
>People of Bastonne/Brionne are X
>People of Ostland/Reikalnd are X
This kind of "nuance" is just retarded, but hey - WHRP.

>> No.74148408

RPG canon isn't always better canon though.
WFRP2e says Aenarion was buffed by an Old One device.

>> No.74148534

I never said it was better or worse canon, just that it is canon. The wargame, the novels and the RPG are all filled with terrible lore, but that's a Warhammer problem in general and not confined to a specific product line.

>> No.74148605

No more than Unknown Kadath is part of our reality, anon.

>> No.74148610

Adherence to canon over what you want to do is dumb. The fluff exists to inspire gameplay and modelling and your own creative efforts.

>> No.74148621

I can't find anything saying he was buffed by an Old One device, just that the Elves harnessed the leyline network built by the Old Ones to create the Vortex.

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I agree with you, because adhering mindlessly to the canon is both stupid and nearly impossible. It's like trying to run a Forgotten Realms game and adhering to all of the canon from every single sourcebook and novel over thirty or more years; it's just not the sort of thing that a well-adjusted person is meant to do.

>> No.74148916
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I think he means this sentence in Tome of Corruption.

>> No.74149005

There is nothing 40k about it other than some distinct sections you can easily skip.

>> No.74149018

>Aenarion did the vortex

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>> No.74149036
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I know, right?

Shit on Warcraft for it's dumb choices but at least the Dwarves use their drills for sneaky tunnels.

The Warhammer Dwarves are advanced enough to make Gyrocopters, I have no idea why they wouldn't have come up with a mining machine.

>> No.74149048

Becayse the gyrocopter is the anomaly as opposed to the other way round.

>> No.74149067

Aenarion going super saiyan and the Vortex were fleshed out morei n 7e, so it was before that time. That being said Schwalb still fucked up and didn't read the lore.

>> No.74149103

This. From day one the lore existed to give you a fleshed-out place and ideas to play minis with. Discard or change freely. Saying Tome of Salvation or Liber Chaotica or Bruner's Witch Hunter aren't canon doesn't at all impact the setting itself. It's still Warhammer.

Now, if you start doing some really weird shit, like trying to cross Warhammer with Star Wars, that's when I'd start objecting.

>> No.74150030

so could I use what I want to do to say Fimir have giant barbed cocks that's odour induces ovulation in the human women they capture?

>> No.74150041


Oh for sure there's bound to be a strong "this is the way we've always done it" and "you sayin our miners ain't good enough lad?" side of things.
There is room for both though.

>> No.74150096

I imagine the gyrocopter was invented by a dwarf or group of dwarves who didn't like the ground and wanted to soar like a bird, which would be pretty oddball by dwarven standards.

>> No.74150158

Yeah, sure. That's basically in-line with their core concept.

>> No.74150170

Anon, there probably IS some dwarven mining machine out there somewhere, it just isnt very prominent because the dwarves dont innovate.

>> No.74150203

No, they were designed to traverse Underway safely. After it has fallen to goblins and skaven, underground travel was impossible at places due to danger which impacted communication between holds. Hence gyrocopters.

>> No.74150386

Wait where's it say that? I read on Gyrocopters in Lexicanum and WHFB wiki and they mention the inspiration was likely flying dragons.

>> No.74150731
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>let's pop together
>rocky horror music
was this purposeful?

I appreciate Yor's world though

>> No.74150734
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Oh it's you again.

>> No.74150875

I believe the dwarfs have developed some kind of a handheld steam drill at least.

>> No.74150892
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>get kicked out of the states
>back at parents house in uk
>"here's your old stuff anon"
>large sack of vintage warhammer

Well I guess I know how I'm getting over my ex

>> No.74150914

.....is that spiky knob his tail or his glans?

>> No.74150934

Looks like you have an expert there for settling some grudges. Sucks to hear about your misfortune, but at least it sounds like you've got yourself a cool stash there, would be baller to see more pictures.
Take care, Anon.

>> No.74151007

Thank! When I've got a second I'll lay them out properly and get some photos, at a glance there's Fimir, Chaos Dwarfs, some heroquest stuff and other miscellaneous figs

>> No.74151033
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Anon was slitghtly wrong, copters were meant to be used above surface but yeah.

>> No.74151047

Fimir don't have tails, so that leaves only one option.

>> No.74151119

>Fimir don't have tails
You wanna check that one anon?

>> No.74151130

>dwarves think it's mad to even fly the thing
Yeah that kind of has me thinking the inventor was a bit of a nutty dwarf, given that most dwarves consider someone a fool for even flying it, so spending the time to make it would be just as odd to them.

>> No.74151144

I went looking to see if White Dwarf had an article with older lore on them when they first released a model for it in late 89 but not seeing anything in WDs 115 to 118.

>> No.74151159

Branching off this, Slaanesh is finally represented on Arachaon's mount.

>> No.74151160

There are plenty of mining machines, some even in use, but like military inventions Autistic Guild keeps them in a closet because "not properly tested" or "though it has worked flawlessly in 2000 test runs, Guildmaster Dumbsson thinks it's too innovative" and "200 years must pass before we introduce them, because muh tradition".

>> No.74151227

>Autistic Guild
Are Slayers or the Guild more autistic?

>> No.74151291

Exactly this. In the last Thanquol book, there was some dwarf engineer who has designed automated minigun turrets that just slaughtered hundreds of skaven by themselves, but the guild was: lol no we can't do that because tradition.

>> No.74151324

Except not with that kind of head.

>> No.74151358

Slayers at least are free and can do whatever they want. My bet is on a guild. They might have tank blueprints (which they do), but will not use it because something something tradition.

>> No.74151436
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>invents a handgun that fires 100 rounds per minute and is reloaded in 10 seconds
>guild grumbles
>invents mobile, hand held communication device that has a range of a thousand leagues
>guild is furious

>> No.74151446

It's kind of sad and funny how their autism holds them from their true potential

>> No.74151517
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>TraDItiOn iS oUr grEAtEst sTRenGht

>> No.74151611

Yeah the 2002 Dwarf source book for WFRP has the Gyrocopter, Air Balloon, a section on ships and rules for the "Earth Borer Mining Drill".
A six wheeled steam-powered machine with armoured front and sides to protect the operator from flying rocks. It has a steel and diamond drill made by... Bhlak and Dekkur.

>> No.74151654

What company makes metal ones?

>> No.74151658
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Fimir have never been depicted with tails in art, but they have been depicted with another long, barbed appendage.

>> No.74151774

Just search for 28mm metal shields and you'll find plenty of options.

>> No.74151821

Cheers mate

>> No.74151827

>he thought fimir had tails
oh no no no no no

>> No.74151838

Liber Chaotica came out years before Draigo.

>> No.74151893
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Old School Minis came out with some more Halflings. Not too shabby.

>> No.74152648 [DELETED] 

Not bad, but there are already plenty of halfling minis

>> No.74152700

Coomer please go.

>> No.74153392

>pic related
Is it real?

>> No.74153403

Yeah but it's always nice to see more.

>> No.74153703

>the last thanquol book
Do you expect non-retardation from ET fluff

>> No.74154000

The RPG's are canon and frequently more accurate than the next "BUY THIS NEW MODEL!" army book which are solely focused on wanking off the army of the month.

This does lead to the hilarious attempts by WFRP writers having to explain the various contradictions and silliness in the army books.

>> No.74154141

>ET fluff
>even if it's not
Stop being a retard.

>> No.74154306

8e practically is ET.

>> No.74154354

8e is definitely when GW jumped the Shark and made a model out of it with googley derp eyes yes.

Ignoring it is the only sane option.

>> No.74154367

Are you stupid? >>74148326 this anon get's it, RPG gives X region's people same behavioural patterns and same mindsets which is retarded as fuck, and it's RPG that builds upon fluff blurbs in WHFB exaggerating them to a meme level because designers think it's funny and idiots like you follow up. Like:
>WHFB: Stirland is a poor province
>Next edition WHFB confirms that because GW is retarded and tries to be consistent with other sources

>> No.74154477 [DELETED] 

That Thanquol's last book was written in 2011 doesn't make it a bad book just because something clicks in your head and you sperg about dates. Thanquol is a BL book and has nothing to do with ET. Just fuck off.

>> No.74154685

>Invent button that instantly kills all Skaven in a 1 mile radius
>"Aye we'll accept it but don't ye dare be thinking this can usurp good ole guns ya hear?"

>> No.74154916

big upset autist samefag
please try harder to hide your samefagging in the future

>> No.74155057

>Be a DND 5E baby
>Ended up joining a WFRP 2e game
>Rolled a thug carrer
what am i in for?

>> No.74155196

Go punch a city guard and find out

>> No.74155202 [SPOILER] 
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You are in for thuggery, perhaps even thuganomics

>> No.74155239

If you see an orc, it's not XP fodder. You're a level 0 commoner until you're not, and you'll know when you're not anymore.

>> No.74155306

>"Hmm, your right Grondi. And let's not forget our hold is famous for the best handguns this side of World's Edge mountains. I think we should.."
>"Do you think what I think Turgrin? Does what you're about to propose... begin with a letter G?"
>"Why...of course me good all chap! We're gonna put him and his entire clan in a Book of Grudges for even PROPOSING a useage of such an audacious device!"

>> No.74155385

Abandon other players and tell your GM you're looking for a job as a bouncer in some halfling bordello in Averland.

>> No.74155452

Why do I have a feeling it goes exactly like that 7 times out of 10.

>> No.74155687


>> No.74155818
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Does anyone know if this model has been recast anywhere?

>> No.74156352
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Are there any places in the Empire where you can be a necromancer openly and not get lynched?

>> No.74156390

A vampire's castle in Sylvania

>> No.74156903
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Is it accurate to say the Gods of Order don't like Malal because he's too extreme in his efforts to fight the Gods of Chaos? I think of it as a situation where they have a common enemy they both hate but while Order tends to be more restrained and benevolent, Malal is the "fight fire with fire" guy, IE conduct sacrificial rituals, genocide, etc. all in the name of thwarting Chaos.

>> No.74156922

I'd say it's because he's still a god of Chaos, and therefore in opposition to Law.

>> No.74156951


It's because he's a fucking Chaos God.
The big 4 constantly fight each other anyway.
Malal is just one that prefers to fight Chaos than everyone else.

>> No.74157088

He's the only one that grows stronger as Chaos fights him though, it's the parasitic nature that makes him so dangerous. Plus unlike the other Chaos gods he doesn't fight for souls or territory, he fights for total destruction of them and them alone since he ignores Order.

>> No.74157156

Not as much as Malal. Big four don't fight each other as seriously as Order/Law, and aside from Order/Law Malal is the only tihng that gets them to unite in war.

>> No.74157309

When is Old World going to get released? How many years off? I want to have rank and file, mostly human, mostly low magic fights.

>> No.74157358

>since he ignores Order.
Source? Pretty sure he fought everyone, Chaos gods and other gods as well.

>> No.74157384

Well, we're coming up on a year since the announcement, and they said it would be three or more years. So anytime between November 2022 and December 2072.

>> No.74157459
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Is there an implicit save to magic effects like this in 3ed edition or is everyone just equipped with nukes and games of 3ed edition are just absurd matches of nuking each other.

>> No.74157506

If it rolled on a separate table to affect friendly troops, maybe that'd slightly fix it. But yeah, nukes are pretty much a common thing. Every edition's had them. Ghal Maraz in 6th/7th is basically instant death. Crom negates any magic item near him making him basically the strongest duelist in the game.

>> No.74157536
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Just painted 10 more skeletons(out of 40 total for now), and started work on the last bunch. For the nehek I'll make around 20 to 30 gravestones on bases.

>> No.74157548

This is a 100 point item (in addition where 3000 was the 2000) that subjects literally every single enemy in a massive range to super-animosity.

Of course, the 50 point magic banner is even more op. It just straight kills half of all enemy models whenever they enter an 8 inch radius.

>> No.74157849

Ghal Maraz was not instant death considering the carrier (Karl) or Valten who took 2 lord choices which means you could only take him in 3k and that severly crippled your flexibility (he couldn't be your general too). Besides some armies had "your magic weapon means shit" items. It's also quite simplistic view about lords - your objective was to win the BATTLE, not that your special snowflake lord has to win a duel against killy, named character. I've seen many oh,so powerful fighters both named and generic, outmanoeuvred, tarpited, shot to pieces or run down by combat resolution, so no, close combat "nukes" could be negated if you knew your game. Also, please, Crom negated properties of close combat weapons only and was hardly the best challenger. One of the good ones, but there were many other who stomped him in one round and you could always accept challenge with champion.

>> No.74157960

They Look nice anon, I like old Wargames Factory skellies very much. But skeleton on the right only pretends that he's holding his shield, he clearly rolls it on the ground beside him.

>> No.74157974

I once shoddily painted this model with cheap paint and shit brushes while staying at a buddy's house for a weekend and felt bad about it after learning what the model actually was. It was probably better than how they would have done it but I still felt like it deserved more. Going there this weekend and can maybe get a picture. Don't know anything about a recast, sorry.

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Holy shit.

>> No.74158114

You don't know what WH nuke is if you talk about 6/7th Ghal maraz as an example. 6th had hardly any mass model removal items and only some spells that did one hit per model in a unit (and they were often low S, or were RiP) could qualify. 7th had a lot more of that shit but it was 7th ie. powercreep fest with every next book. Have you ever played a game?

>> No.74158436

Third edition magic is pretty crazy, and the RoC books push that crazy up to eleven.

>> No.74158825

If I were reffing I'd ban this shit, straight up.

>> No.74159014

are crypt ghouls undead? Seems like they're just crazy cannibals

>> No.74159053

Yea, they're not undead. In 6th an earlier this was reflected in the rules, but in 7th gw just said fuck it and made all VC units count as undead like ghouls and necromancers because they were suffused with dark magic or whatever (it was just for gameplay)

>> No.74159062

They're not undead in the RPG, they're just gross cannibals. Same in 5e.

>> No.74159246

You’re a god amongst men anon.

>> No.74159441

What army should I use rules wise if I want to use proxy an army from the sengoku period for Japan?

I was thinking Empire, but I want a second opinion.

>> No.74159472

Tell me more about what you imagine, how they play.

>> No.74159602
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Currently it's an army I'm working on that I plan on using for AoS, Kensei/Torii, KoW, historicals if I can convince my friends, minis to use for L5R rpgs, and Whfb.

In both AoS and KoW it's a combined force of living and undead Japanese army/kingdom.

For whfb, I'm planning on using them for VC or Empire, but I might just use the living portion. Gameplay wise, I would probably do pike and shotte with cav and arty support. I'm still trying to figure out what Sohei (Heavily armored warrior monks that uses naginatas/halberds) and Shinobi/Ninja (the first one would be equivalent to modern day commandos or guerrillas, the second would be more the spies we would imagine) would equate to for Empire.

As for my undead samurai and ashigaru minis, I might use them as a base for a VC army.

Pic related, pic of wip from months ago since I don't feel like setting up and taking a pic of some of my current stuff.

>> No.74159636

Dogs of War

>> No.74159717

Third edition has rules for a Nippon force in the Warhammer Armies book. It's quite small but you could augment it with allies and mercenaries (if you care about such things).

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Pic related. This isn't the full list by the way.

>> No.74159770

Thanks for the suggestions, but I forgot to mention I'm looking for suggestions for 6e or 8e since those are the editions my group has the most interest in.

Though I'll make sure to keep those in mind if I get to play the older editions since they look fun for small scale games or for campaigns.

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>> No.74160000

Dogs of war has a 6th book, and includes an undead unit.

>> No.74160016

That's a cool looking banner

>> No.74160044

My mistake then, I thought the newest they had was a 5e book.

>> No.74160224

You can still use that book in 8th. God knows Bretonnia had to.

>> No.74160684
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how did a mere peasant rise to nobility

>> No.74161412
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Assert dominance with banner size

>> No.74161462

Nice boners, very clean

>> No.74161477

>Sir, we can't charge them! They've got the Banner of BTFO!

>> No.74161488

Acts of knightly valor and/or giving Louen Leoncouer the sloppiest toppy this side of the grey mountains

>> No.74161503
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hello guys

I am writing my interpretations of Cathayan creatures from fluff (as well as some of my own creations) in a sort of compendium style, as if written by an explorer from the Empire.

Any critique?

>> No.74161524


One interpretation could be that the Bretonnian caste system rose out of a tribal custom of villages supplying their champion with weapons and armor, all the food they needed, and a sort of eugenics system of having them marry the most beautiful woman in the village. Eventually this became a hereditary warrior class which became nobility, they had all the chad and stacy genes and everyone else was a dirty peasant. But the idea of society being structured on heroism beyond one's birth is still reflected in the custom in the 2500s where the King has to have completed a Grail Quest. So it's not out of the question for someone who displays sufficient heroism to become acknowledged in Bretonnia, it just becomes rarer the further along in history you go.

>> No.74162029

Absolutely fantastic. I had my doubts about that big ass banner pole the first time you posted it, but with the standard on it it's glorious, can't wait to see the dude holding it painted as well

>> No.74162146
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In the last of the Brunner the Bounty Hunter books, Brunner meats a Blood Dragon who wants to drink the blood of a dragon in order to his cure his curse. Thus leaving him all of the advantages of a vampire with none of the drawbacks.
However, I am unable to corporate that claim with any other lore. Does anyone here know anything more about that?
I'm thinking that an interesting backstory for my vampire lord on dragon could be that he was a blood dragon who succeeded, and raised the dragon he slew to serve him.

>> No.74162174

Aborash did it, but I think no else has.

>> No.74162182

Literal intervention of The Lady.

>> No.74162237

Are you asking about Repanse specifically? Her story is really well known, laid out in 5th and briefly mentioned in 6th, and easily found on a glance at any Warhammer wiki.

The gist of it comes down to that she was divinely inspired by the Lady, and obviously did the Lady's will in killing that Chaos Lord. Basically anytime the Lady is believed to directly get involved in something, it's allowed. If she made it happen, how could she not approve? Same idea with the peasant with religious fits who built the first trebuchet out of Grail Chapel pieces. That isn't just God telling you to build an ark, he's handing you the lumber - and it worked, so the Lady must approve. If she didn't they'd fail, or the Day Enchantress would zap somebody.

It's kind of fascinating really. Every other facet of Bretonnian society comes from an extreme faith and the aping of things associated with faith. That's why every Virtue is associated with a Grail Companion, a veritable Jesus' disciple. It's likely why Bret knights to this day keep using the same weapons and armor Gilles and co would have been familiar with. Everybody Quests like Louis the Rash did instead of trying to get the blessing another way, Louis's questing was obviously approved of by the Lady since he became a Grail Knight, and every King has earned her approval in the same way. The laws he codified are kept to without change because they're as divinely inspired as the Qur'an. Cannons aren't used because the Lady hasn't shown any obvious approval through a vision or sacred artifact.

>> No.74162331
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I need to sign an oath to paint the rest of these guys before I build more (save the rest of the gor herd and a brayshaman.)

>> No.74162370

>one of them is just a fucking foot
Power level off the charts, confirmed mad lad

>> No.74162704


>> No.74162714

That's their whole thing. It's the reason for their name. It's in the 6th Ed army book. Weird if they left it out in later editions.

>> No.74162765

I love having painted models and I'm a decent painter but for some reason building and preparing models and doing conversions is more fun, I am truly cursed.

>> No.74162791

God I wish that was my army

>> No.74162906

Let me tell you, its a joy to see your army being painted

>> No.74162997

Challenge yourself with painting to scratch the same itch of making the model your own. Freehand is what does it for me, even if it's a simple design. It looks nice when it's done(at least from tabletop distance, I'm not that good at it yet)and every time I work on it I get better. Right now I'm working on taking the more over-the-top vampire detailing off of my grave guard, then I'll be giving a few of them some tartan and giving their standard bearer something for the unit to be proud of

>> No.74163045

This is my curse as well. I have strictly limited myself to painting up the first 2250 points before I model even one more thing, and from now on I'm never going to have more than 1 semi painted unit and one unpainted unit in the queue.

>> No.74163082

Dear /wfg/

I have some warhammer fantasy based erotica in my possession, should I post it here or somewhere else?

>> No.74163111

/WW/ on /trash/ degenerate.

>> No.74163116

Thank you! It was left out of the 7th and 8th books for some reason and I never played 6th.
I must say, just skimming the 6e book it looks so much better than what came after it.

>> No.74163214

Does anyone here know the laws behind including images of GW miniatures in third party publications?
If one was to sell a magazine or a rulebook (for a game without official miniatures), could they include images they have taken of their own warhammer models?

>> No.74163290

If you're not constrained by official books, Warhammer Armies Project 9e has a an armybook for Nippon. Even if you play with 8e rules, it should be largely compatible.
Out of official books, I guess I'd say Empire or Dogs of War.
I guess Sohei would be Greatswords or Reiksguard Footknights, and Shinobi would probably just be Free Company, as they don't have the bows to be Huntsmen.

>> No.74163349


>> No.74163382

Now this is a true chaos warband, I can barely tell what the units are supposed to be, but not in a bad way. Absolute chad banners, standardlets btfo.
And just imagine being charged by a fucking foot. Really, wtf.
Are you me? I just finished painting a commission of 150 scratchbuilt zombies for a friend's VC army, and I have already built 48 more from my bitz box.
There are regular threads for sharing that stuff on /aco/, Anon.

>> No.74163476

Out of curiosity anon, how much do you charge for your painting?

>> No.74163560

I know certain companies post their models together with GW models with the clause that it’s for scale comparison only. Not sure about the legal ramifications of posting them by themselves though.

>> No.74163577

I think you need to get permission to use anyone else's figures no matter where you sourced them from and also say where people can find it.

>> No.74163648
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Pic related, I've posted the last batch here a couple times. Still waiting to get a proper group shot.
I charged him 1€ per zombie +1€ per movement tray (+15€ for a trio of spirit hosts with 9 actual models, most of which was to cover the purchase cost of 10€), which is way undercharged considering I converted the models myself, largely from my own bitz and "waste" models too. But it started as a fun passion project to clear out my bitz box, and the money I make from it is a bonus. Plus my friend is super enthusiastic about having these custom units in his army.
If I took painting commission from someone random, the absolute minimum I'd charge would be 1€ per rank-and-file model for a very basic paintjob, no basing, no extra details like weathering or gore.

>> No.74163872

lol you sucked at painting

>> No.74163912

That's an iffy one. I very strongly doubt you would be able to. The above policy dictates that their miniatures fall under their copyright and according to their guidelines you must keep it non-commercial.
However, it doesn't specifically answer your question and you could argue that because you built and paint the miniatures that you have put your own artistic spin on them. As such, your safest course of action would be to email them expecting rejection.

>> No.74163938

I can guarantee their answer will be no.

>> No.74163975

Well then just keep it non-commercial. Then it shouldn't be a problem.

>> No.74164034

Anon said he wants to sell the magazines.

>> No.74164105

>I need to sign an oath to paint the rest of these guys before I build more
I know that feel, broham. Discipline is the key divider between finished projects and the endless cycle of starting on something new before the old thing is finished.
The banner ended up really good btw. Greta job. I'm looking forward to seeing the stuff you posted painted.

>> No.74164123

Gone are the days of independent hobby magazines I guess.

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Thank you, I agree. I have a few Empire Knights coming up and will probably kitbash quite a bit with Greatswords, Pistoliers and State Troops. And then I plan on giving each of the knights an individual paintjob with their own heraldry. I really want to get better at freehands, the only downside is that they take so long, especially when you still want to paint up your army.
And make sure to post your grave guard once they are done, anon.
Pic related is an Averland flag with the Emperor's initials which I copied from the Empire Heraldry book a few weeks ago. I also want to make up my own designs though. WD354 is an excellent resource for inspiration concerning Empire armies.

I wish that as me. I have too much money and ebay has too many lovely miniatures, so I'd never be able to stick to such a restriction. Though I do have painting goals which I try to adhere to.

I'd post my latest conversion but it's for the hated game.

>> No.74164244

Zacharias did it.

>> No.74164278

Why is 15mm so based, Bros?

>> No.74164285


>> No.74164368

>which a lotta people don't want nor like
Lotta people are stupid

>> No.74164390


>> No.74164425

The demonworld range is fantastic, what do you have?

>> No.74164496

Did you freehand that banner? That's damn crisp job, very nice.
And you can cross-thread reply to me if you post it to a different thread, would be nice to see it anyway.

>> No.74164531
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Currently 3d printing me the whole wood elf army from Forest Dragon, pretty good stuff

>> No.74164650

I did freehand it and thank you. Though you can see that I put a lot of time into the calligraphy and then sped up the process for the rest of the banner haha
>And you can cross-thread reply

>> No.74164749

Very nice. Must still look ass-kicking on the tabletop, even if you sped it up after the calligraphy.
Also, very nifty conversion. Always awesome when you can make something out of parts that would otherwise just waste away in the bitz box.

>> No.74165095

Wouldn't this apply to battle reports?

>> No.74165131

Yeah but it's free advertising for GW. Selling a rulebook that is separate from GW would be a big no no.

>> No.74165172

That is true. Though I still have way too many poor models wasting away outside of the bitz box!
And thanks again, I'll be sure to post more stuff as soon as I get back to painting.

>> No.74165432

I have a general quesiton.

So I have built up a small slaaneshi warband using the Mierce miniature Ysians. They look great and are more in line of what 'I' believe Chaos to look like.

The axemen with the skin cloaks make fantastic choosen or warriors but I need marauders and I don't like the Gw ones. Or avatars of war. I was hoping to find the sheildwolk Krum-Vaal dudes but no sign of them.

Any miniature companies do conan-esque type warriors? Mierce are slightly more real in terms of scale so I was thinking of converting some historicals but I can't find the right angry sweaty naked dudes that I need!

>> No.74166243
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I personally find that the Warcry-models from GW make more excellent Marauders. They're quite fiddly to convert though since their bits are fucked up but nothing that shouldn't be relatively easy to handle. Some models might require you to build them up before dissambling them in a more preferable way, however.

>> No.74166464

That's really cool

>> No.74166586


Good shout, I've just managed to snag a load of redboxgames hordesman, so that takes care of some things.

>> No.74166705
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>redboxgames hordesman
Never heard of them before but they do look rather spot on for Slaaneshi conanesque barbarians.

>> No.74166767
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Russian Alternative got some pretty sweet marauders.

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Yeah I’m going to probs get them in time they are exactly what is needed.


They do don’t they! Pic related is my current mob, when I painted them Tow was merely a memory and I thought it had no hope of returning. But now it’s time for some rebasing methinks... and some new banners... anons Blanche banners are just too cool.

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If you decide to pick up some Russian Alternative later on then I guess this model of theirs would make a nice and conanesque unit champion.

>> No.74167008


HAH. yes, that would also fit. Whole idea is that the warband believe that only by casting down the shackles of civilization can man be truly free to experience the excess of his bestial nature. So think the humans behaving like beastmen crossed with the reavers from firefly. They shouldn't have all that heavy armour, thats for Tzeench Khorne and Nurgle, that would prevent them from experiencing the full range of sensation.

>> No.74167855

I like they aren't over buff.

GW really does like making its blokes Ultra Swole

>> No.74167899

Missed thread?

>> No.74168231


What is missed thread?

>> No.74168592

If that's your fluff then I strongly encourage you to add some beastmen to the mix of marauders. GW's gors got great bodies for a bestial slaaneshi-vibe.
Bonus points if you use the Realm of Chaos rules to roll 'em up.

>> No.74168594

I have that model and she's really nice. Would recommend.

>> No.74168856
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The old 5th edition rule book has kinda inspired me. I wanna make a unit of chaos warhounds that's just swarms on spiders and snakes.

>> No.74169263

so uh, modern society?

>> No.74169299

Man, you either wanna look at multibasing or be very careful when positioning them.

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Yeah that is the game plan in the end, but these things take time and I need to finish my lizardmen before I want to commit to a serious army expansion. I have this big thug I call ‘Broo’ already here. Might get his mates.

>> No.74169859


I think they’ll actually rank up okay as long as they are in a specific orders. They don’t have as big a footprint as chaos warriors.

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>> No.74170538

Got another session of my warhammer rpg game in an hour and I have some problems and need some ideas on how to address it.

My current amount of PCs are 3, and 2 of them are apprentice wizard (human), and the third is a WE merc.

They say they need a front liner to deal with combat, even though I try to throw hints and at times flat out tell them stealth is an option but they refuse.

They don't like the fact that if they hire NPCs to join them for combat need a fellowship tests for dangerous stuff, the fact they get paid daily and get a share of the loot, and we tried for 2 weeks to get another player but failed.

I'm about to just have the NPCs settle for getting a split of the loot and ignore the daily cost. Thoughts?

>> No.74170763

Splitting the loot seems like a good enough bargain if they want to just bash their head against a problem instead of doing it the smart way, but the kind of person that works for a share of the loot is a bit less reliable than the guy who works for a paycheck. He would also be paranoid of the guys he's with trying to kill him as soon as the loot is found (at least I would be).

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>priest has lower starting status than a wizard or apothecary
>in fucking Empire

C7 are fucking idiots.

>> No.74172123

They sound like idiots that shouldn't survive a week in Warhammer.

>> No.74172147

Yeah Anon I really have to agree with this guy. Not having a fighter is fine since combat is best avoided anyway. If they ignore that nugget of commence sense and refuse to hire some muscle or utilize stealth then honestly their going to get whats coming to them.

>> No.74172237

Honestly Warhammer is mostly about resolving dangerous situations by stealth or setting the combat in way that make it almost impossible to die.

If you just rush into combat like it's DnD you are fucked. If they don't get it from rules alone they will learn the hard way.

>> No.74172300

Priests are like cockroaches.

Always felt it was a mistake to have spell casting priests as a basic career in WFRP desu.

>> No.74172342

>Priests are like cockroaches.

Normal mundane ones sure, but not priests capable of miracles or war priests. Its idiotic.

If they do put them in the book they should at least do it right.

>> No.74172626

Yeah I learned the hardway (Party getting stomped by like 4 rats in the first sessions first encounter) that WHFRPG is not DND
If anything its call of Cthulhu
That's not to say that you can't do combat, you just need to heavily stack the situation in your favor. e.g. Picking off opponents to thin the herd, using shock and awe tactics, ambushes, bringing in allies or breaking your opponents allegiances.

You can really get creative with it. My personal favorite is shock and awe. If you see a group of goblins, run screaming and hollering at them. Most of them will run off and you can mop up the survivors. Ofcourse, they'll be back though and in greater numbers.

Gods I want to play WHFRPG but im stuck DMing Dark Heresy.

>> No.74172663
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>a guy that can zap dudes and do minor magic that legally has the protections of nobility once they become a magister makes a 3 pennies a day more than a literal altar boy in a society flooded with clergy
nooo not my altar boys they need to be at least silver 1 wtf
Real talk though, that was kind of the historical precedent. You weren't taking in serious cash unless you were actually in charge of a church (or temple in Warhammer) because each church/temple has a bunch of priests and initiates trying to climb that ladder. In Warhammer, priests that can cast miracles are few and far between, whereas wizards are both rarer and defined by their ability to do magic. An initiate of Sigmar is a kid with a hammer who at most can make you feel really inspired to go fight evil. Warrior priests are even poorer because they're wandering ascetic-murderer-soldiers, and they kick ass for the Lord all day.

Basically this is to say that your income and your viability in combat are not entirely related, otherwise Nobles would be Brass 3 or 4.

>> No.74172839

>priests that can cast miracles are few and far between

And in 4e you play those.

>> No.74172850

>And in 4e you CAN play those.
Fixed that for you, you forgot a word

>> No.74173099

God, the way you did the eye on that banner is something else. Feel like it's following me around the room.

>> No.74173131

Priests being able to do even minor blessings is optional, as it was in 2e (at least after Tome of Salvation came out). Don't let your idea of all priests being D&D-style spellcasters cloud the fact that most priests are regular dudes that luv sigmar, luv 'ammers, luv dorfs, 'ate greenskins, simple as.

>> No.74173181

It's meant to be a >>74157459 fluff wise.

>> No.74173493

It's working. I feel genuinely uneasy under its gaze. Like it's staring into my soul.

>> No.74173566

So would every town and city have a garden of Morr? Or can a graveyard just be a graveyard?

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>> No.74173838


Given necromancy and the undead are a thing, and sigmar is inherently associated with fire, I never understand why they just don’t burn the dead.

>> No.74173866

tfw no musician for a rat swarm. It just makes sense.

>> No.74173891

There are vampire hunters who suggest that and it makes the Morr priests REEEE

>> No.74173924

And that's assuming they're Sigmarites instead of say a priest of Morr - necessary but not exactly common in daily life - or of Myrmidia who is still pretty new to most Imperials and Brets, or any other combo like a Taalite priest in a city. The only priest in a village will be far better regarded, if poorer, than one of many priests in a cloister.

>> No.74173951

Regular graveyards are more likely in smaller towns or villages, where there's a priest of Morr to consecrate the bodies but not the wealth to get a big formal garden with iron fences, or a lot of big graven headstones anyway.

>> No.74174092

In the end did your OC learn that rune craft has no hope of being saved. And that it is best to just give up and become a normal engineer as that will do much more for his people than writing nonsense words on things and calling it magic.

>> No.74174471
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Hi guys, I'm new here. Can you give me, a new player, some advices? Should I buy the books? How can I easily find players (my lgs is a gw one so they don't make tournaments of whfb anymore)? What is the best place to buy square bases and movement trays? (i apologize for my bad english, but it's not my native language)

>> No.74174584

>sigmar is inherently associated with fire
Is he? This is the first I've heard of it.

>> No.74174632

the flaming twin tailed comet, the burning of sinners the flames on the flagellents, I’ve always thought so.

>> No.74175034

>Should I buy the books?
If you want to, everything is available in the mega
>How can I easily find players
You can't. Start with facebook groups and local clubs. Note that you may find a lot of people who play wfb but they may play 3rd, 6th, 7th etc. So there's no easy way. You can always try to convince some of your friends.
>square bases and movement trays
For bases, just look online, ebay or any other auction service from your country. For trays, do them yourself(plasticard, thin wood plates etc)

>> No.74175166

Larger towns yes?
A smaller town might not have a full Garden but just a graveyard with a shrine to Moor that is attended to by a Priest.
A village could also have a graveyard but no priest on standby, instead a Priest might make the rounds, travelling from village to village.
It would make an interesting NPC to meet on the road for sure.

>> No.74175499

So what do giants do when they aren't part of an Orc horde? Do they just rampage? Do solitary giants exist in the Empire, or are they too big to go unnoticed/undealt with?

>> No.74175576

Any tips on building a town to revolve a campaign around? I don't want to run into some dumb oversight that could've led into an interesting turn of events. Do large, unchartered cities exist in the Empire, or would all of my problems just be solved by using one of the pre-existing cities described in a splat book.

>> No.74175601

You're doing yourself proud. That's a stunning army and far beyond what I could even conceive of when I was putting mine together.

>> No.74175964

The woods of the empire are vast and largely unwalked by humans. Their are plenty of places for giants to go, but their alchoholism and hunger, as well as need for materials to make clothing, generally drives them to fall in with someone, or raid human towns on their own.

For the most part they just eat whatever people, beastmen, goblins, cattle, ect they can find and just wander around like the aimless retards they are.

>> No.74175976

So, does the Old World have regular access to "New world" food, such as tomatoes, potatoes, corn, etc. I would assume yes, due to their interaction to their own new world for however long you want to say they have. However, was this food already native to the Old World. Vermintide got me thinking about this during a fit of autism when I tried to figure out where the barony of Maisberg (Corn Mountain) would be on a map. On a sidenote, does anyone else agree that the uniforms of the soldiers shown in the level and in the trailer are Altdorf? I know there's a lot of yellow in it, but it looks like the main colors are red and blue.

>> No.74176003

Act as roaming monsters/join up with chaos armies.

Besides, its not like there isnt room for giants in the empire, once you leave the immediate presence of one of the big towns you can basically do whatever you want, the empire is a collection of spots of light in a vast darkness, not the other way around.

>> No.74176512

There is no particular reason to think that the warhammer old world lacked real world new world foods to begin with.

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Red and blue is indeed Altdorf. It used to be silver and blue under the Jungfreuds, but the town was seized by Altdorf in 2512. It becomes a free town four years later, still technically controlled by Altdorf but ruled by a council instead of directly by nobles, and they retain the red and blue livery.

Also the crest of Ubersreik is red and blue with yellow trim.

>> No.74176684

Individual casualty removal adds nothing to the game and is an active detriment. Change my mind.

>> No.74176809

I like it visually.

>> No.74176875

I'll bite. I like how no counters are needed to keep track of the unit's combat effectiveness, and how I can see the unit's combat strength at a glance. It also makes the casualties more concrete, adding to the immersion. Mechanics-wise, it also makes template focus fire have diminishing returns, which is good.
Without it, we also couldn't have stories of the sole surviving members of their units, and epic last stands of the last few surviving soldiers defying the odds, and how these individuals could still change the course of battles.

>> No.74177172

I've also been considering this
My advice would be to
1. Set it in a particular province but leave everything else vague other then its X weeks travel to the nearest city.
2. Get a general list of important townsfolk like the Mayor, Militia Captain and Doctor. And give them understudies who would naturally slip into their role if they die or have to skip town.
3. Get an idea of the surrounding environment and its role in the economy as well as any important landmarks like say a Shrine to Taal in the forest or a Dwarfen mine in the hills.
4. The people who go from tavern to tavern. Gamblers, Rogues, Mercenaries and Bounty Hunters who can reasonably appear in any tavern the party walks into.
5. Finally, the plots and schemes going on in the background that can tie all these aspects together. Merchants trying to get a puppet into power, a Necromancer ransacking tombs trying to find a longdead heros tomb. Beastmen or Goblin tribes poised to strike when they smell weakness.

And most importantly, places where the player characters can relax and get comfy. A particular tavern with a cosy hearth and polite staff.

>> No.74178326

I like how some of these are just strictly better than others.

>> No.74179795

Does anyone know how to survive range attacks in 4th edition without having a shield? I'm talking about the rpg since you can only dodge if you're in point blank, but there isn't a cover system in fantasy?

>> No.74179822
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Getting my brother to give WHFB a whirl again against my oldhammer ogres. Anyone have some scenario suggestions?

>> No.74179868

What army is he playing?

>> No.74182069

Warriors of Chaos, we got his old warriors and manged to strip off our more... enthusiastic childhood paint jobs.

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