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>> No.73455522
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AHA, time for Death Guard!

>> No.73455523

GSCB is best 40k waifu and she's gonna have my babies

>> No.73455547
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Made some Tau close combat unit datasheets

What are ur thoughts, made two different versions

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>> No.73455559
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should I build 3 Company Vets with Plasmaguns or with Meltas? or what special weapon would look best in your opinion?

>> No.73455593

Rules? Plasmagun. Looks? Plasmagun. You've got a hard choice to make there.

>> No.73455654

When using meltas don't forget to think about delivery/

>> No.73455665
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>> No.73455670

I should also say the third version, and probably the most reasonable one, would be the rate of fire of the first one without the plus 1 to hit in the fight phase.

The idea is they run up, shoot, charge, and shoot again.
So trying to balance between Tau shooting and comparison with actual dedicated melee units. Tau don't get marker light support in close combat so I figured hitting on 4s in melee would be offset with large volume of fire or a special drone that lets them hit on 3s in the fight phase. But idk

>> No.73455704
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>> No.73455706
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Is it strange that I want shit spewing gun for Nurgle armies?

>> No.73455725
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Turn on the pumps!

>> No.73455740
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are there any delivery methods besides deepstriking/rhinos/landraiders and droppods? I feel like walking up the board is probably not the best way to get into melta range.

>> No.73455746

What's the best source of plasma for Dark Angels?
Native deep strike and lots of shots per squad
Impulsors are great and they can hop in those, more range and strength on heavy, more bodies
>Dark Knights
Can move 20", get a 4++, not much more expensive than hellblasters
Has twice the range of an inceptor, and just as much firepower as one when shooting twice, and cheaper
Cheaper than terminators and more volume of fire than the heavy hellblasters

>> No.73455776

Using space-magic to hurl them up the board

>> No.73455791

>are there any delivery methods other than delivery methods

>> No.73455805

Male reproductive system

>> No.73455811

Devs and Termies like the Lion intended.

>> No.73455812

thanks, guess I'll go with plasma then so I dont have to get a rhino or smth.

>> No.73455821

>besides deepstriking/rhinos/landraiders and droppods?
storm ravens

>> No.73455845

So what is it these days with points?
GW rarely mentions points anymore and some of the more normie focused communities sperg the fuck out if you discuss points based army lists.

Are GW trying to replace it all with power levels?

>> No.73455861
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>replace Death to the False Emperor with Hatred Eternal
>Hatred Eternal: exploding hits on 6+ in melee against all enemies
Blamo, are CSM good now?

>> No.73455868
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>> No.73455879

>Looking at competitive dark angels lists
>spam gun platform planes and eliminators
>frequently souped with ig and knights
>competitive custodes
>spam dakka heavy tanks and formerly the Telemon
>frequently souped with ig and knights
>competitive admech
>spam disintegrators
>frequently souped with ig and knights
>competitive necrons
>spam crescent plane and the boat
>competitive csm
>spam plagueburst crawlers, and a target for the shoot twice Slaanesh strategem
>frequently souping knights and using a ton of cultists
I'm beginning to notice a pattern amongst mediocre armies

>> No.73455892

>knights and hordes are strong in 8th
Thank you Captain Obvious.

>> No.73455908

Vets in a drop pod

>> No.73455911

Let's start with getting 2-part legion trait like every single other army and a supporting global rule like doctrine or canticle or guard orders.

>> No.73455916

>babby's first army building discoveries

>> No.73455920

I'd say drop their movement down to 5". They've heavy armor and boarding shields.

I don't play Tau, but if I did I'd use them as a speed bump unit. Place them in the route of melee infantry and have them charge when needed. They'd be a speed bump, but that cheap kind of speed bump that's just asphalt poured in a line. You know the ones, you have to basically idle over because going over them at any other speed will give you a concussion after your head smashes into the ceiling of your car. Probably fuck up your car itself if it rides low enough.

>> No.73455929

Nids being nerfed took DA out of competetive metas

>> No.73455931

So from what I've seen and heard, the Skorpius tank has kinda replaced the Onager as the AdMech tank of choice. Anyone care to explain why that is?

>> No.73455942

I think it can shoot out of LoS with one of its guns.

>> No.73455944

The Onager is still good because of the Icarus Array. Having just one fucks over armies like Deldar. Plus the Neutron Laser still has its uses. The Onager is a gun platform, not a tank.

>> No.73455947

It's faster, and the main gun has a flat 3 shots at a flat 3 damage each compared to the Onager's d3 and d6 respectively, making it much more reliable as a DPS machine

>> No.73455955

What did DA do well enough against nids to be viable? Also -2 to hit planes with decent guns are still playable.

>> No.73455958

Ahh, so it's more reliable, I understand.

>> No.73455962

Rule of three stopped us being able to rip through untargetable poxwalker screens and fuck up the nurgle horde meta at the time

>> No.73455965

DA's shtick was plasma spam and the particular plasma profile DA could put out a ton of shots on was very good at killing Nid heavy infantry and monsters.

>> No.73455967

>Nurgle shit
You said nids initially.

>> No.73455972

The Onager has more guns than just the NL. Hell, the NL itself was never all that viable anyways. Out classed by the Icarrus Array.

>> No.73455988

what does she look like even, I've never seen her

>> No.73456003

Yeah that makes sense

>> No.73456015

I don't think the Disintegrator is necessarily better, I think the guns are harder to find alternatives to than the dunecrawler

>> No.73456025

Yes, Ro3 was aimed at flyrant spam (and DP spam to a lesser extent)

>> No.73456032

The onager effectively has two weapons, the icarus array and the laser.
The icarus array is certainly good, and people still take onagers for it, but just by the numbers neutron lasers are better at taking wounds off your typical leman russ or knight.
Thus for a long time the NL was the 'standard' admech anti tank option, and alternatives competed against it to fill the role. Now however we have the skorpius, which not only can be taken alongside onagers to get around the rule of 3, but also has a significantly higher average damage on the targets it will be shooting at, with much lower variability for a handful more points (plus extra upsides like +1 wound and more movement).
You'll never be taking more than 1 icarus array, the rest of the onagers in a list had neutron lasers, and this duty has been thus taken over by the skorpius.

>> No.73456048
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Space Dawi when?

>> No.73456049

They wish they could but nobody uses power levels.

>> No.73456056

Okay. So how do we blame the Tau for this?

>> No.73456057
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i know the indomitus box is full of new marine units... but i kinda want more, i don't like the bike.

>> No.73456061

Which legion is a) good and b) lore-friendly for an allied CSM daemon engine/dreadnaught detachment attached to my thousand sons?

>> No.73456062

Why not?
I mean at this point why continue to publish points costs if they don't want them used?

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>> No.73456093

don't they have that already?

>> No.73456097

None of the Daemon Engine/Dread focused CSM factions are really tzeentch oriented, but Iron Warriors are the obvious choice, or you could go for something a little more unusual like the Magma Hounds

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>> No.73456214
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I like stormtroopers a bunch

>> No.73456219
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Definitely Iron Warriors. Look over their F&F strategems, they make for great AT support.

>> No.73456258

>You'll never be taking more than 1 icarus array
Depends on the opponent. Against Guard? I wouldn't even take one. Against Deldar? I'd take three and laugh as I watch paper boats crash and burn.

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>> No.73456284
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>> No.73456285
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Big titties on ground troopers make no sense. Noble born Knight pilots with good genes on the other hand...

>> No.73456290

Advertising my attentionwhoring from last thread
Also post Dark Eldar wymyn

>> No.73456292

>list tailoring

>> No.73456301
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The new sprues for the Lumineth Realmlords in AoS do not lend me hope for new Guard. There, 40% of the models are mandatory females. I can see it in my mind's eye; the future Plastic Steel Legion refresh where half the models must be built as Women. No doubt some hero model with gasmask off so we can see it's a girl.

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>> No.73456308

>he doesn’t bring a stack of lists with different chapter tactics and run whatever is best at the time

>> No.73456319

You will not be missed

>> No.73456321

The scourged

>> No.73456322
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The schola progenium is a gathering of the best and brightest of the imperium. They ARE big titty nobility.

also knights are gay

>> No.73456331
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The Steel Legion already wear dresses, anon.

>> No.73456334

True, maybe think of it like an average. If you averaged out the amount of icarus arrays you're running against every possible enemy faction, I doubt the average would be higher than 1 (especially since the prime targets of DE and tau aren't all that popular in 8e).

>> No.73456343

Newsflash retard the IRL population is 50% "mandatory females"

>> No.73456355

That kinda sucks that your parents don't support your hobby

My parents don't really get it either but are not hostile towards it

My mom thinks it's nerdy, which it is, and doesn't really understand the concept or how it works. My dad is much more interested in it and ask the occasional question about things but still doesn't really understand it.

>> No.73456359

What's the irl female population amongst frontline war?

>> No.73456371
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Are the felt wheel/points on eletric drills good for polishing parts of plastic models, or should I use sanding bands (~1000+ grit?.) Not sure if it's too agressive at the minimum of 5000rpm

Or should I just use normal sanding/polish sticks?
I'm a newbie to the hobby so I have no clue. It's mostly to polish areas after I remove mold lines, and also to remove excess putty on seams. Price is not a factor.

>> No.73456382

You don't need a fucking power tool to sand miniatures.

>> No.73456383
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Reminder that no Tyranid, not even Swarmlords and Bio-Titans, are as strong as Alien Isolation's Drones who are coded to withstand any damage. Even fire and harpoon guns which should have inflicted significant injury on it like it has in the movies.

>> No.73456391

don't use powertools for sanding plastic minis. it'll be far too aggressive.

working with small details requires the precision of manual tools, even though they take longer.

>> No.73456393

Do we count the prostitutes?

>> No.73456394

YOU don't

>> No.73456396
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First 5 of the big 20 bolt-plagues.

>> No.73456397
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Because it would not only anger /40kg/ but the tourney waacfags as well (and those people are now have more influence than ever before).

>> No.73456407
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Why take a hit in the first place?

>> No.73456414
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Schola gets the trash "nobles" from some dustbin hive worlds where they fuck their alien dogs and any big titty is sent to support corps. Knight worlds don't lower their standards and keep their big titty genes pure.

Your boob envy is clear for everyone to see.

>> No.73456416

Yep, 100%. And not just a girl, but a brave black girl with cornrows. Because black women don't play 40k but they need to be represented for some reason????

>> No.73456424

>withstand any damage
Presumably when compared to the xenomorph's size? I imagine space marine heavy weapons would still hurt it, plasma probably, lascannons etc

>> No.73456432
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I don't need a food processor or dishwasher either but it sure makes things easier. I know getting fine grit sandpaper or metal files or sticks is the least expensive option, that wasn't my question though.

Alright thanks. Any one brand/specific grit you recommend in particular? I got one file from an Army Painted starter kit but it's far too rough.

>> No.73456442
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>noooo muh mandatory 40% female Lumineth!!!!
>meanwhile im just playing StD and my Warriors all have the same body type regardless of gender and the old Chaos Warrior helmets fit on the new ones, meaning I dont have to give a shit about the gender of my little plastic army men because they're all helmeted mooks


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>Wasting a lascannon on a T5 Lictor equivalent
What a waste. Just use a heavy flamer when it gets close.

>> No.73456472

I was responding to the claim that the Xenomorph Drone was tougher than any tyranid biomorph or creature.
How would you stat a xenomorph anyway? Same as a lictor or slightly higher toughness?

>> No.73456473
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Just cut their tits lmao
it's not like you can tell the difference between GW's male and female faces anyway

>> No.73456475

He's got a point. For the sake of a horror game, weapons that would injure a xenomorph normally don't do shit to it. It's more durable than a queen. I wouldn't be surprised if that vidya's unkillable xenomorphs survive an exterminatus because lol fuck what ridley scott said.

>> No.73456481

sir this is 40kg

>> No.73456497

>normal drone
Significantly above regular human being in strength, speed, etc but dies to swarms of tyranids all the same
Should be stronger but not too much
Isn't exactly hive tyrant material but would probably rip apart smaller tyranids easily
Stronger than most but below queen unless it becomes a queen
>video game invincible baddie
Solos the entire Tyranid fleet all by itself

>> No.73456498

Too bad oldschool stormtroopers and kasrkins are fucking dead an all we have are scionions

>> No.73456501


who is this pink haired thot she's kinda cute

>> No.73456519

Kasrkin were lame and Scions are just old school stormtroopers with old school lore+ and a different t uniform.

>> No.73456521
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Scionian tempestians are based though

>> No.73456522
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Sounds like it's just a higher toughness/save thing from >>73456383 's perspective. I'd say the original Alien xenomorph was a T5 Deathleaper EQ that was always in cover, Alien 2 was T5 Lictor EQ, and after that they were just straight up standard Lictors.

God I wish Alien 3 onwards weren't objectively shit in comparison to 1 and 2.

>> No.73456528
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>not having a unit of every type
>implying scions are bad models

>> No.73456538

>what if we slapped a bunch of medieval-themed bullshit on the special forces operatives lmao

>> No.73456543

People forget how killable it was meant to be
>A key trait of the Alien is its acidic blood, included as another plot device that would forbid the crew to kill or even wound the monster. The screenwriter wanted the creature to be mortal and was radically opposed to making it impenetrable (a trope common in earlier monster films). Ron Cobb, who designed the human technology for the film, eventually suggested the idea of a creature with “acid for blood”. O’Bannon recalled: “Ron Cobb gave continual input to the film right from the very start. He gave us one of the major plot elements: the monster has an incredibly corrosive bloodstream. One of the reasons the monster can’t be cut up or fired at is because its blood would eat right through the ship. That was Ron’s idea and I want everyone to know it — I wanted the thing to be, in every respect, a natural animal, which means yes, if you shoot it, it’ll die.” A scene removed in the final film involved the Alien having its left arm cut off, resulting in a portion of the ship being compromised.
Also didn't Ridley shoot some spear at it?

>> No.73456546

Cool basing but thin the paint when you get to their faces.

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>> No.73456556

Anon, this is the game with the Space Marines. The knights in space?

>> No.73456559

>Preorder Admech Raiders from LGS
>Wait 2 weeks
>Owner forgot to order
>Order again
>Another two weeks pass
I just want my sniper cavalry...

>> No.73456565
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But anon, surely they should be able to eat several shotgun blasts, molotovs and other weapons endlessly without dying.

>> No.73456569
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>imperial guard elites being inspired by historical grenadiers/cuirassiers is a bad thing
you're a fag

>> No.73456574

I wish Maleceptors, Haruspexes, Toxicrenes and Heirodules weren't objectively shit in comparison to more stealers and tyrants

>> No.73456582

>spammed fire warriors and riptides before it was popular
They started the trend and GW build the game around it since they were popular.

>> No.73456591
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I recently bought two of these sets for $130 each, was that a good move? Still not sure.

>> No.73456594

Some Russian guy posted a video of themselves killing it ingame. Still soaked up WAY too much damage and it doesn't have a death animation. A Queen would be seriously injured from what it casually tanked.

>> No.73456596

Your pic is fine, I love old stormtroopers
Scions are cringe

>> No.73456604
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This is how I Ellen Ripley.

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>> No.73456611

Do you get the terrain in them?
You wont need 2 magus, 2 primus AND 2 patriarchs by the way

>> No.73456615
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Your dad sounds like the desired product of neoliberal capitalism lmao

>> No.73456618

Do you like what came with them? Why 2?

>> No.73456629

People playing comp or semi comp are also significantly more common than before. They easily take up more than a third of customers, and shell out the most money as well.

>> No.73456639

Well, their main problem was in their delivery, so... Yay for 9th reserves?

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>> No.73456645

Yeah, its the original set, found it on same gaming store's website in another state, asked em before I bought it to make sure.
Yeah, admech, genestealers, all the terrain, I like it. Two because well...I got a new job, where I make double what I used to make so, fuck it? I guess?

>> No.73456650
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No. My old man called it a waste of money.

>> No.73456652

Shouldn't those drones wish to consume constantly products constantly in order to give whatever they were paid for back to the corps?

>> No.73456669

Not worth it probably, dumping them down in a tyrrannocyte is a better bet. Shame about the 75 point nutsack of "does nothing"

>> No.73456677

My dad finds it interesting but he's also a historicals greybeard and likes his aircraft and ship models when he has the time to build and relax

>> No.73456687

But anon, I thought your old man was a woman.

>> No.73456697
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>historical inspiration
>gothic as fuck
>take inspiration from and pay homage to every generation of stormtrooper
>multipart kit filled with conversion potential
scions, like every version of the imperial stormtrooper, are great

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Ice guns

>> No.73456724

>Not 21

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>> No.73456766

False. That is Subject F.

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Do these exist in 40k?

>> No.73456812

think they said that the new combat patrol board for 500pt games is basically two kill team zones pushed together, so you got that I guess.

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>> No.73456843

the wraithguard with axes basically have those

>> No.73456849
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I like the Sisters of Silence because they have big claws.

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>> No.73456889

>Kasrkin were lame

>> No.73456893

>Best rim jobs
excuse me what

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>> No.73456909

Kasrkin were just Cadians with extra armor plates and (at the time) nu-lored Hot-Shot Lasguns.

>> No.73456917

you should totally powersand your finely detailed miniatures with a 5krpm sander, it works great and won't make the plastic melt at all
post pics once you're done btw...for research purposes

>> No.73456935

>nooo my special forces can't just be conventional soldiers with better equipment

>> No.73456947

And what do you play at the end of the day?

>> No.73456951
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Yes. Very cool models.

>> No.73456961

This looks nice as hell but god damn putting those decals on must be a bitch

>> No.73456967
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Stormtrooper lore has them as detached and separate from regular guard before lame Kasrkin decided to Mary Sue it up.

>> No.73457004

In what way are kasrkin mary sues?

>> No.73457015

I rarely play but I when I do it's usually kill team with either death guard or Custodes

>> No.73457019
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>> No.73457026

>kasrkins are mary sues
>Scions aren't

>> No.73457030

What even hits a titan hard enough to instakill it?

>> No.73457034

hot take: hot shot lasguns would be better as volkite chargers

>> No.73457043
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Thinking Scions are cooler than Kasrkins is the biggest pleb filter I've ever seen

>> No.73457047

Oh my god who the hell cares. They represented generic stormtroopers just fine, although the inquisitorial's helmets were way cooler.

>> No.73457048

An Imperial Guard tank of course.

>> No.73457051
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Kasrkin are basically just like modern special forces, soldiers from regular regiments who pass an internal selection process and serve in specialist formations in support of the line troops.

Scions are essentially private school kids given all the best kit and equipment from day one, hypno-indoctrinated to have no personalities and never serve alongside regular guardsmen, actually being used almost like historical Dragoons where the sons of the gentry were used as a sort of military police when you need mutinous guardsmen to be slaughtered.

Yeah they're exceptional soldiers but they're not as sympathetic as the Karskin/regimental Grenadiers.

>> No.73457058

hotter take: people get more butthurt about losing units to super lasguns than they do eradication beams

>> No.73457060

Well it is from a youtube video called 'The Exodite' so my guess would be some fuckheug laser cannon mounted on an equally massive dinosaur.

>> No.73457061
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>> No.73457074
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Solar Auxilia > Scions.

Original and the best.

>> No.73457082
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>regimental Grenadiers

>> No.73457099
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Kriegers are just fucking weirdos, they don't count, they're not even really human.

>> No.73457104

>regimental Grenadiers
Remember veteran doctrines?
Remember when veterans had customization options?
Remember when veterans weren't moved to elites because GW felt the need to sell their fuckins scions (which nobody asked for)?

>> No.73457106

Scions are what Ultrasmurfs would consider 'cool' and 'awesome' IG units.
Which is exactly why they have absolutely no place in an IG player's army.

>> No.73457115
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>electro-bondage torture machine
oh gosh

>> No.73457121

faggots, Mordian iron guard rules supreme

>> No.73457124


>> No.73457127

Yeah but they do their job well.

>> No.73457132

yeah, theyre shit generic sci-fi, I wouldn't buy them if they got a plastic release, and i've been waiting 25 years for new guard

>> No.73457137

An ordinatii or a warlord titan.

>> No.73457141

>veterans as troops
nah that's always been gay

Take your platoon and armored fist. Then you can take your veteran squad.

>> No.73457151

I see a lot of complaining all over the internet regarding rules and stuff. What I don't really get is why nobody managed to establish a generally accepted "mod" for the 40k ruleset yet. Like a total overhaul mod for vidya with modified basic rules and added codices etc.

>> No.73457153
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Provided all you ask them to do involves trenches and being slaughtered en masse.

>> No.73457155

>Taufags are so obsessed with getting multiple free shooting phases they have to try and get one in their own Assault phase too

Just stick with the pistol profile rule, for the sake of everyone's coronary health.

>> No.73457158
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>> No.73457163

Cause the only reason any of us play 40k is beacuse its the only wargame where you can show up to the store and basically be sure to get a game with somebody. And GW stores won't allow the mod.

>> No.73457165

>These niggers complaining about having qt's in their army
>Meanwhile my Maggotkin of Nurgle have 1 fat old witch and i had to by a 3rd party cumbrain skink girl for my Lizardmen

This isn't space marines nigger.

>> No.73457173

the best thing about SoB is the amount of people getting catfished by their libshit views or coomer complex having to buy fucked up shit like this which is exactly where their own faction would stick them.

>> No.73457179

>nah that's always been gay
Yet scions as troops are totally fine for some reason huh

>> No.73457183

i would love guard cuties, that gaylord doesn't speak for all of us

>> No.73457185

Orbital weapons

>that shot actually skimmed the planet's surface it was from such a skewed angle
>fucked up the Titan anyway

>> No.73457189

I fully expect to see shitty conversions of them

>> No.73457194

it doesn't exist anymore the but Iskandar Khayon had a personal habit of collecting demon engines and war machines of all kinds, and using them as much as his rubrics as his army and ship defense.

>> No.73457197
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nobody says siege warfare is supposed to be fun

>> No.73457206

Yeah, I think so. They lock themselves out of 90% of the guard's heavier firepower (if they want to get doctrine benefits), so it's an actual tradeoff rather than a way to maximize the amount of tanks you can put on the table.

>> No.73457208

>40k is a fucked up setting

yes anon its true, the factions in this setting don't treat humans well

the fuck point are you trying to make?

>> No.73457210

Yeah, why would people want their armies to look cool instead of being feminist or a cumbrain wankbank?

>> No.73457220

>2e stormies
>British commandos
>3e stormies
>British SAS
>big fat ornate musketeers

One of these things is not like the others. If you want to give Empire Greatswords lasguns, go ahead, but don't make us all play into your faggotry.

>> No.73457221

you're pretty sensitive buddy, maybe consider growing an adult brain and painting an army instead of complaining about what other people do all the time

>> No.73457227

>you're pretty sensitive buddy
Yeah, I can detect horseshit a mile off.

>> No.73457235
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I have faith in the updated FW rules. The Macharius Heavy tank will rise again.

>> No.73457239
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Has anyone used one of these?
What's the veredict?

>> No.73457243

that many people's expectations of SoB is going to be wildly disappointed when they realize that SoB are as much a part of the dogmatic religious imperium that they hate so much in spite of being female.

>> No.73457247

anything when wank is involved

>> No.73457257
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I like them precisely because they're like that.

>> No.73457259

Remember when Veterans were 0-1 choice?

>> No.73457266
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bought retribution armour spray and sprayed me custodes. Can't say the result was as good as i expected. Anyone tried the spray before?

>> No.73457268
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Friendly 500 point list

>> No.73457269

Let me ask a question: are Nurgle worshippers healthy? I mean, I know the obvious answer, that they are sick as hell, but I mean (and I have similar concerns about other chaos factions) they are mutated and bonded with their armor, and their shapes don't really seem advantageous- their guts hang out exposed, shards of bone are in inconvenient places, armor doesn't look like it comes off. They look unsafe. They look like a tottering wreck spit-glued together with warp power. I know they're basically unkillable in the lore, but in all the art they look handicapped.

If a blank walks up to a Plague Marine, does the marine fall apart in rust and rot?

>> No.73457275

custodes can choose between spear or axe

>> No.73457277

If the astartes guy made that there would have been a flash of void shields giving out.

>> No.73457278
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>500pts list

>> No.73457280

3.5e codex let you have stormies as Troops, they just didn't get their special insertion ability.

>> No.73457281

>Kastelan with phosphor blasters

>> No.73457283

You did great, It's one of the best boxes ever. You can follow the manual to assemble your first ruins and go wild with your second box.

>> No.73457285

whoever painted that should learn that the lil tube above the heavy bolter barrel is the gas piston, not a laser sight

>> No.73457287

Still rather new to warhammer, 7 games under my belt. How do all the various factions stack up against each other? Based on my casual observation in 7 noob games
>Tau are busted
>Orkz are big suck

>> No.73457292

Yeah that seems about right.

>> No.73457296

>poggers man sees something that isn't poggers

>> No.73457297

Assuming the shields were up in the first place. I dislike how the carapace weapons and everything reacts to the hit. It's a machine. If you put a sabot through the back of a tank, the turret doesn't wince as if in pain.

>> No.73457305
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Pic related has an invuln save, but the baneblade doesn't.

>> No.73457307

>are Nurgle worshippers healthy?
No. Their nerve ends that would scream out in endless pain were suppressed by Nurgles warp taint until they rot away completely. And they'll still feel pain when shot or punched hard enough.

>If a blank walks up to a Plague Marine, does the marine fall apart in rust and rot?

Potentially, yes. Depends on the extent of the diseases and how far along said diseases have consumed the host body. For the most part the diseases Nurgle "bestows" on plague marines are the super slow burning or parasitical kind, and they mutate the body to keep growing and decomposing over and over again.

So if a blank walks up to a plague marine, the plague marine will likely first feel a complete disconnect from the warp and start feeling the pain and fear Nurgle's influence suppressed for so long, and if exposure to a weapons grade blank is prolonged I'm certain they'll start feeling the full extent of the diseases they're riddled with.

>> No.73457310
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And Admech will get rules for all those Mechanicum units, r-right? Fires of Cyraxus still lives, d-doesn't it?

>> No.73457311
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Alright brehs, I ditched my powertool idea.
Which one of these should I get? Both have fine to rough grit, I just don't know which will offer the easier application. Do the sponge ones bend too much? is using sand paper by hand on minis too bothersome? Etc etc
Furthermore the ones on the left are advertized as nail gel products but I assume that makes no difference and they work just as well on plastic.

>> No.73457319
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>Orkz are big suck
Only true ork players understand that it does not matter whenever you win or not. As long as you "git tea foitin'"
If you win, you win. If you have to retreat you will come back and fight another day. If you die it does not count because you're dead = orks never lose

>> No.73457320

Oh yeah, and they're discontinued too.

>> No.73457323
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not according to dawn of war, a reliable canon source

>> No.73457324

the physical mutations of chaos are a reflection of the impurity of the soul they're not just warp power attached to them, and if a blank is not enough to kill the soul of a normal person so it won't be enough to make a plague marine unable to sustain itself since his soul will still survive
he will probably be in a lot of pain though and struggling to be whole

blanks don't start affecting you in that way until you're more of a daemon than a mortal

>> No.73457331
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>the lil tube above the heavy bolter barrel is the gas piston
Somehow I doubt GW has ever possessed anyone with the knowledge of what a rifle gas block is, let alone anyone involved in the art design of the bolter. Pretty much guarantee it is officially just a sticky-out-bit of indeterminate function.

If the artist wants to interpret it as a laser pointer, I think that is as much as valid idea as any other.

>> No.73457358

Since when have bolters been gas operated? Also, FW said it's an optic during the whole upside down bolter debacle.

>> No.73457361

don't bolters have to work in space? Not sure how a gas piston could operate the chamber in a vacuum.

>> No.73457364

Are humans in 40k supposed to be human in the modern sense?
I get that space marines and nobles and stuff are insanely genetically modded, but aren't there even at the lowest levels serious differences in genetics due to the thousands of years of various empires fiddling with people's genes and the imperium continuing that trend?

>> No.73457367

i thought it was some kind of targeter connected to the marine's helmet

>> No.73457397
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>Laser sights, take cover! Imperial Guard sniper fire incoming!

>> No.73457405

Fuck off Ben you always spam faggoty anime it's like you want to namefag without a namefag

>> No.73457406

Guns work in space, friend-o. The tolerances would have to be complete dogshit to NOT work in space.

>> No.73457409

Any of you boys ever create terrains on tabletop simulator for warhammer? Is there much demand for new maps?
>t. slightly creative design retard

>> No.73457414

...what else would they be?

>> No.73457418
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I don't think it has really been addressed but given the ridiculously huge population of the Imperium, the age of some of the older worlds and the vast variety of biomes that are inhabited, I'd say that just going logically, there must be pretty big genetic differences between humans today and the "average" Imperial citizen, even ignoring deliberate genetic tinkering during the DAoT like on Fenris.

For reference, if you look at the Sherpa people who live in an environment that is pretty extreme but at least still on Earth, they've been living in said environment for far less than the 10,000 years even between the Horus Heresy and modern 40k, let alone the time since the DAoT colonization era and they already show significant adaptions to high-altitudes compared to lowlanders.

>> No.73457422

Yeah, I've always assumed it was some manner of sight as well.

>> No.73457431

true but a lot of adaptation can be purely somatic.

>> No.73457433

You will not be missed

>> No.73457439

Who hates the imperium? Or rather, who *likes* the imperium? Everyone on earth should be offended by what it does, but it's a fun setting. I don't think this person who buys the sisters because they're really moral good guys, who you've invented in your mind to be mad about, actually exists.

>> No.73457443

I actually don't mind it. Titans have extremely powerful machine spirits, they may as well whince. Also, I think most of the motion was from the explosion.

>> No.73457444

It could easily be both desu. just stick a laser pointer on the end of it

>> No.73457450
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I dont care for rules , I dont know shit about the meta and im a lorelet

>> No.73457456
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Not him but given their ridiculously large calibre, they could just be recoil operated, would make them more rugged and reliable.

The closest we have to a real-world boltgun uses that system, basically just using the raw kinetic energy of the round to re-cock the weapon without having to faff about with gas pistons or direct impingement. One less thing to cause a stoppage.

>> No.73457465

>Titans have extremely powerful machine spirits, they may as well whince.

It's been stated in canon that a Titan's machine spirit does feel pain, and that pain is communicated to the Princeps operating it - and due to the MIU, if the Princeps flinches as a result, the Titan may flinch in turn.

>> No.73457471

Surely you aware that more than gas-operation exist.

>> No.73457479

Ask /WIP/, noone here actually paints

>> No.73457483

>The Exodite
Any link? I cant find it

>> No.73457485
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When will fw fix titan prices and rules ?

>> No.73457486

A firearm will fire in space, but does the change in pressure affect the cycling of a gas-operated firearm?

>> No.73457488

While the round is still passing through the barrel, it's still a sealed system behind the bolt, and gas pressure will operate the piston.

>> No.73457494

FW is a fucking joke of a company, so never

>> No.73457495

Recoil operated open bolt, of course.

>> No.73457496

when you learn to mask printing artifacts

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>> No.73457507
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T'was my first print,second one was better

>> No.73457512

I mean I guess the original gyrojets were direct blowback but I figured with the bolter having an initial charge before the rocket kicks in and gas tubes it'd be gas-operated.

>> No.73457530

>500 points
>3 kastelans using the 0 point misprinted phospors
If you played that at my store you would be kicked the fuck out

>> No.73457532

didn't the 65pts phosphors get retconned?

>> No.73457538

yes I agree, that should not have an invuln save, exactly as the baneblade should also not have an invuln save

>> No.73457540

It still hasn't been faqed so its "legal" but anyone with a brain knows that they're not meant to be 0 points.

>> No.73457541

There has been no errata and there probably wont be one since all the points are changing in a few weeks with the new edition anyway.
Thats the joke

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I fail to see how that one is better.

>> No.73457561
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We're posting combat patrol lists?
Inquisitor - Inferno Pistol, Force Sword
Captain - Plasmapistol, Powersword
Chaplain - Bolt Pistol
5x Tactical
3x Company Vets - Plasmaguns + boltpistol (serg w/ Combiplasma)
Dreadnought - Combatweapon/Stormbolter + Multi-melta

leftover points are reserved for adjustments with 9th point changes

>> No.73457564
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I miss 5th edition bros.
I miss templates.
I miss vehicle facings and firing arcs.
I miss shit like "our weapons are useless!" when my dreadnought charged into melee.
I miss ramming and tank shocking.
I miss the old cover rules that made a lot of sense, especially with intervening models.
I miss the old magics that weren't just 100 different ways to deal d3 mortal wounds.

>> No.73457565

don't listen anon. this animefag is just mad that he's paying top price for resin shit whilst you're printing very convincing ones of your own

>> No.73457567

>Print lines on the gun barrel sticking out like a sore thumb
>Obvious texturing on the side armor
Are you sure, anon?

>> No.73457572


>> No.73457573

Waiting for the person to post a single knight as his patrol list

>> No.73457579
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Yes, they are biologically nigh- inmortal and Nurgle makes you feel really good despite your ailments. Nurglites feel a sort of bliss instead of pain, and are forever comfy.

>> No.73457581

Damn, you read me like an open book. Fuck! Don't be stupid, Anon. Telling someone their models look like shit because they can't mask printing artifacts has nothing to do with any of that. I buy the vast majority of my models from chinks btw.

>> No.73457590

Im fearing the day I have to face that list, or the 100 grots spam or IG parking lot in combat patrol

>> No.73457591

Bellicose Volcano cannon

>> No.73457595

I just want some new noise marine models.

>> No.73457596

You totally have the option not to play against those people

>> No.73457597
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>> No.73457603

Based and fluffy list. Would play against.

>> No.73457606

>I figured with the bolter having an initial charge before the rocket kicks in and gas tubes it'd be gas-operated.
Doesn't have to be, recoil operated weapons will still extract brass.

Gyrojets have a tiny internal pressure. I'm not even sure a gas system would work with them, though as you've stated, bolt rounds seem to be dual-stage so that would provide the required pressure to operate.

But I just don't see the benefit of installing a gas system into a system that is firing a 19mm cartridge which allegedly has enough power to break the arm of an unaugmented human.

Especially since the bolter is designed to be used by soldiers fighting in ridiculously variable environments. You don't want your super-soldiers to land on some cryogenic moon and discover their guns are now single-shot because the -50 Kelvin temperatures have turned their gas systems into blocks of solid ice.

>> No.73457613

>Rapidfire weapon
>Enough internal magazine space for about six shots
bravo gw

>> No.73457614


>> No.73457622

6 rapid fuck yous

>> No.73457625

Modern humans are dead. What 40k has are the manufactured humans.

>> No.73457626

GW us doing the rules for forge world models including titans in 9th, so they should be more reasonable soon.

Also nice print but you've gotta do the leg piston.

>> No.73457629

I stopped playing in 6th and am starting to get back into the hobby, I'm in awe as to how shitty and soulless everything looks

>> No.73457635

>six shots

More than enough to kill anything that moves.

>> No.73457640

So play 5th loser

>> No.73457641
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an eldar titan

>> No.73457642

I'm looking at buying glass agitators for my paints and the only ones I can find that look really nice are glass beads for jewelry stuff. This might be a brainlet question but will the fact that it's a drilled bead instead of a perfectly smooth marble mess with my paints?

>> No.73457651
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>> No.73457652

How much money is on that table?

>> No.73457654
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Here's your Deathwing, bro

>> No.73457657
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yes, your paints will explode as soon as they come into contact with them, be careful

>> No.73457661
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Still not as funny as the Leman Russ Battle Tanks canonically using the same engine as the Panther D.

Or that the massive Battle Cannon is supposedly a 120mm.

>> No.73457663

3 dollar

>> No.73457664
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Hey guys, heard you were doing a friendly 500, can I come?

>> No.73457673

In my head the paint would get into the drilled bit and dry but idk I'm just nervous trying new things

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>> No.73457677

makes you wonder what the fuck kind of projectile a battle-cannon fires, and how many fit in there

>> No.73457679

im just shitposting, dont take advice from me anon

>> No.73457680

Yes, it might interact more with the chemical agents in the paint and start creating chloride acid

>> No.73457685

>Or that the massive Battle Cannon is supposedly a 120mm.
Clearly they mounted a massive dustbin-calibre barrel shroud over it to intimidate the xenos.

Leman Russ design is in dire need of an update though, it has not aged well.

>> No.73457694

they didn't exist once, now they sure as hell do.

not reliably, anything gas operated is unlikely to work at the same capacity as on earth. Also gyrojets aren't gas operated since they vent the gas to prevent excessive pressure in the chamber.

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>> No.73457714

Finally, deathwing that isn't restricted to that retarded ass looking terminator armor. GW should have ditched that long ago

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>> No.73457727

Not bad bait.

>> No.73457728
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Color scheme too cool to keep them terminator only, can't blame them really

>> No.73457736

looks good
shitty generic name

>> No.73457751
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>retarded ass looking terminator armor
I've seen some pretty heretical posts in my time..

>> No.73457762

he's not wrong, the proportions are ridiculous, they have a ton of armour just to have their heads exposed, vision blocked by hoods, and oversized flails and maces that would be more of a danger to themselves than anything that could move faster than a tortoise.

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>> No.73457778

Well, now that GW decided to make every single weapon loadout its own unit that they think needs its own original aka copyright-able name, there's gonna be a lot of bad ones. Specially with how creatively bankrupt GW has become.

>> No.73457783

To think that people with such taste dares to exist unironically is a travesty.

Here it is

>> No.73457797
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the irony that this poster probably spent all day defending the primaris bikes that wouldn't even function due to their design.

>> No.73457802

I do with my friends in kitchen table hammer. The thing is this group of 5th ed players won’t ever grow much larger than this, there’s bigger community and definitely nothing new coming to the game. I still love to play and enjoy every match but it’s a bad saddening looking at modern 40k releases and seeing what a husk the game is.

>> No.73457804

Since we're doing Combat Patrol, what is a must-take for Eldar 500 and under?

>> No.73457808
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so what im getting from this post is that I should buy some termies ones I finish my current manlets?

>> No.73457809

Who is 'we'?

>> No.73457812

>the proportions are ridiculous, they have a ton of armour just to have their heads exposed, vision blocked by hoods, and oversized flails and maces that would be more of a danger to themselves

Nobody cares.

>> No.73457820

probably wraithblades with axes. they'll be annoying as fuck to kill and won't take up all of your army

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>> No.73457825

You're playing the wrong game pal, try historical games.

>> No.73457826

Manufacturing cost? Like maybe £100 if we are being generous

>> No.73457831

GW, the manufacturer, apparently does care about proportions...

>> No.73457838


>> No.73457839
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Plastic Vostroyans when?

>> No.73457840

The thread dopey

>> No.73457846
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Reminder that the same people criticizing terminators probably think the go kart is cool.

>> No.73457848
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Not as much as in this room.

>> No.73457855

There is no way in hell you will ever convince me to play a 500 point game.

>> No.73457860

imagine the smell

>> No.73457865

hopefully soon, otherwise i quit

>> No.73457867

Since you don't buy any new models you're nothing to GW

>> No.73457870

Man, wouldn't you just have this overwhelming urge to go on a massive rampage and see how many Titans you could kick to pieces before they brought you down.

>> No.73457878
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Left guy lost his banner?
I feel with him, and it hurts

>> No.73457879
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ok, historical 40k does have better executed models with superior sculpts and concepts.

>> No.73457886

There probably are some ppl who'd love to do that. That club reportedly is elitist as fuck

>> No.73457889

if 30k wasnt resin, id be playing it

>> No.73457891

You would be probably taken to court to pay for damages, I wouldn't envy you.

>> No.73457895

>elitist as fuck
Color me surprised

>> No.73457905

He only has some knights and a single warhound. Doubt he even owns a banner.
The titanlet in the picture

>> No.73457907

I wish I were playing this... niggas be broke.

>> No.73457921

I'm a poorfag so I'd just claim bankruptcy. Criminal charges for first offence, damage to giant plastic armymen wouldn't be custodial.

I would revel in the memory of my engine-kills as I picked up litter for a few weeks.

>> No.73457929
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imaging being invited to show of your knights, proudly bringing the model you spent all that time building and painting to the best off your abilities, and then everyone else in the room just slams tons of those onto the floor and looks down on you for only bringing a few knights.
Im sad now, post dreadnoughts to cheer me up please?

>> No.73457933

This. Is the main thing that puts me off, I despise working with resin, especially now plastic provides almost as much detail.

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>> No.73457946

Looks like he has a Reaver, too. Looks like it's modeled for advantage, though: it's in some weird bent-over pose. The rest of the guys probably burned his banner for that tryhard garbage.

>> No.73457950

Ok, I won't ask you then

>> No.73457972
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Will this be good for helping me drill barrels?

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I'd rather use them in a BT army.

>> No.73457995

No, all you need is a drawing pin and the pin vice unless you've got something like a benign tremor in which case I doubt that contraption would help anyway.

Just use the pin to make a guide hole and then drill with your elbows resting on something for stability. Simple as.

>> No.73458003

>wouldn't you just have this overwhelming urge to go on a massive rampage
I'm not part nigger, so no

>> No.73458025

Good. Just don't ask me.

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>> No.73458034

Didn't think to use a pin to start it, good advice anon.

>> No.73458037

I already said I wouldn't anon. You aren't being tsundere are you?

>> No.73458056

Shame it's in a boring setting with no aliens and only Chaoscringe enemies

>> No.73458074

>playing on a big mat on the floor
Imagine seeing all these boomers waddling about on their knees or butt-dragging about cross legged nudging their robots into place

>> No.73458075

I did it without that for years and fucked up so many times from the drill bit wandering, then someone at my LGS told me that was the way to do it and I don't think I've ever ruined a barrel since. Makes a huge difference.

>> No.73458092

I miss the days when Wargaming was seen as a hobby for dumpy old men and not ironic, trendy zoomers.

>> No.73458095

It's about to change in July so hang on.

Tau are casual and newbie smashers. Low skill ceiling and encourages toxic (regardless of player choice, the core mechanics of tau are to blame) builds so they start off with a higher baseline but scale poorly at upper levels of play.

>> No.73458099
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They should have included aliens imo. Would have been a chance to be creative and include a bunch of minor species that aren't present in 40k, you could say they all came out of the woodwork and started attacking humanity in the chaos of the Heresy while the Imperium couldn't organize against them.

>> No.73458109

i miss playing flames of war with the friendly boomers in the hobby shop when i was a kid, now its closed down and all weve got in my town is a GAMES WORKSHOP (TM)

>> No.73458111

Agreed. A damage modifier to represent thicc steel would be fine. As is basic mechanics make them too easy to kill.

>> No.73458122
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>unfolds 30" Knight's Banner across your Warhound
Oh I'm sorry, I didn't notice your Knights were there.

>> No.73458126

GW livestream in around 20 mins

What will they preview?
Any hints as to what army/rule?

>> No.73458127

Same, minus templates. They were too clunky, especially with dense terrain.

That last point is really good too.

>> No.73458145

I imagine they will have a lot of fun doing so

>> No.73458156

Either Newnucrons or Primarishit

>> No.73458161

Never understood the clunky template memes? How is it any different trying to fit a messurrment tool in the same dense terrain? In both cases you end eye balling the bloody thing.
The issue was never templates, but autistic fucks and cucks that could not tell the autistic fucks to fuck off with their bullshit

>> No.73458164

No Anon your placid acceptance of printer anon's mediocrity is holding printer anon back from ever being able to print 1:1 to models.

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>> No.73458186

The new AoShitmar book that's going on pre-order at the end of the week probably

>> No.73458188

I should make a banner for my armies.
Wonder if there is a way to combine the Imperial aquila with the GSC and SoB symbols

>> No.73458201

My main complaint on templates, with hindsight, is they caused a fuck load of faffing about in the movement phase as everyone tried to maximise the space between each of their models to avoid having the entire unit wiped by a lucky pieplate.

Was horrified going into 8e that they'd done away with them but yeah, with hindsight, I think that was a good shout.

>> No.73458204

Why are power level and points so fucking over the place? You can find units that have almost twice the points cost compared to PL as others (think 4 PL for 70 points as opposed to 3PL for 40 points), and some even have higher PL yet lower points cost (Dunecrawler vs Disintegrator).

What's the logic here? Has GW ever explained it? Is Games Workshop actually retarded?

>> No.73458212

Sounds like fun. In my childhood in a third world country I used to play on the stairs of a building or outside in the common space of buildings.
During summer we didn't used our metal recast because they would melt under the sun and during winter we simply used raincoats and put umbrellas over the table.
Shit was great

>> No.73458228

Never happen to me. Unless I face marines that usually autistically spread models. Orks, IG nids and other horde simply eyeball it. They knew something was going to die so might as well use all the cover

>> No.73458238

they are pretty dumb.

>> No.73458243

I dont give a shit, ill happily take 50percent women fuard if its new sculpts, especially for steel legion.

>> No.73458248

Do the aquilla but with the nid symbol heads and body replacing the eagles.

>> No.73458253

It takes into account the various war hear options because PL allows you to equip it however you want.

That being said PL is shit and they also never update PL values

>> No.73458258

This. The only player I ever met that cared this much about spacing were almost always Space Marines. Very occasionally Eldar players would get autistic about it.

>> No.73458271
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Soul. Dangerous amounts of Soul.

Oldhammer rocks.

>> No.73458283
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I'm interested in night lords. What would I want to build my army around?
CSM squads w/ chain swords and pistols
Warp Talons

what else?

>> No.73458284
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<buzzword> <buzzword> <buzzword>

>> No.73458288

Since like half the players are marines. People might recall the issue a lot more.
Everything wrong with 40k seems to be marines fault

>> No.73458299

Power level has never been changed since they came out, but points have been adjusted multiple times now for most units trying for balance.

As well most PL seem to be set on the assumption the unit takes.max warhead upgrades. Which is often not how a unit I typically equipped in practice.

>> No.73458302

I've started when I was 14 and explained it several times. They both think it a cool outlet of creative energy but neither would try it for themselves. Both have a little trouble wrapping their head around with how the game is actually played besides "rolling dice" and using measuring tapes a lot.

>> No.73458305
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Did the new PA book fixed Valerian and Aleya?

>> No.73458308

Either this is bait or you forgot the utter retardation of pretty much every 5th edition codex and the vast majority of model releases.

>> No.73458309

There used to be one ork player at the lgs who did the autistic 2 inch spacing.

Yes, also when he played a green tide list.

>> No.73458324

They didn't fix his huge head, no.

>> No.73458334

No i mean his rules anon, not the model

>> No.73458335

>Muzzle flash
>Gas exhaust
>Totally a laser gun
Are the tech priests lying to us?

>> No.73458338

I only recall this experience when playing with USA fags. Every other place in the world didn’t happen and when it did people told them to fuck off

>> No.73458344

Power level: like points but shittier!

>> No.73458350

I never had any trouble with Templates, but the exact direction of the scatter die caused no end of arguments at my club. Warmachine/Hordes had the best solution; print six arrows on the template itself, and just roll a D6 to determine which way it moves.

>> No.73458353

How do you mean? I mean, I figured, but got stories?

>> No.73458357

No you don’t, secondary.

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>> No.73458363

>Muzzle flash

All lasguns have muzzle flashes.

>Gas exhaust


>> No.73458382

It isn't a laser, it is a gun that fires las.

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I prefer 4th to 5th personally, outside of Iron Warriors and Eldar sometimes it was the right mix of straightforward rules and Codexes.

>> No.73458393

What's "las"?

>> No.73458396
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Nah, it still looks great
Find a recaster and migrant to your space marine wank

>> No.73458416

Laser. But cooler.

>> No.73458422

Its a lasso, but it doesnt form an o, so it is just las

>> No.73458445

>so is just las
If so is just las the lasso equals laslas or am I missing something?

>> No.73458452
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they still cant be used in matched pay
they still cost 370 points
and aleyas special relic sword is now worse than a regular sisters sword

>> No.73458456
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It's always been marinefags since the hobby started, especially loyalist players.
It's only gotten worse now that marvel migrants make up half the marine playerbase

>> No.73458458

I love the bright ultramarine colour scheme. I loved the old bright blood angels too.

>> No.73458459

>"What are you doing anon?"
My parent's eyes would glaze over the moment I said
"Oh hi, I'm assembling-"

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>> No.73458468
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very superior choice.

>> No.73458482

A quick estimate puts that about $45k worth of shit.

What the fuck

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>> No.73458495

yes what?

>> No.73458503

8th started out at much higher points costs around the board, on release it was generally a pretty even ratio of 20 points:1 power level. now everything has slowly been getting cheaper to increase model count, and PL hasn't changed the whole time

>> No.73458520

Some ruins couldn't physically fit the flamer or the large blasts, you had to hold it above and too far above perspective skewed accurate count, even for honest players. A measuring tape you could turn sideways and sneak into almost anything.

>> No.73458528

You don't need a brain or taste to have money, anon.

>> No.73458531

Never an issue in 20 years. It’s a meme that only autistic fags promoted

>> No.73458549

I think so. It's a pretty good counter-argument to -4STR shitposting, your female IG commander could just be genetically bulked.

>> No.73458614

Mom is perfectly fine with it, I even send her photos of finished minis once in a while.
Dad died before I got into the hobby

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>> No.73458673


Why bother lol

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>> No.73458678

just looks like word salad without that huge of a change except someone will find some chink in the wording to abuse the shit out of it. at base it looks like it 100% means MSU is the default screening option

>> No.73458681

Holy shit, the conga line is basically dead.

>> No.73458689

I can't believe it. The game is ruined. God I hate Games Workshop.

>> No.73458690

My mother got caught cheating and stealing money from us kids, so now 10 years later she's trying to make amends. I could tell her my hobby is drowning puppies and she'd tell me it's awesome.

My dad originally thought it was a waste of money, then I compared the cost to his hunting, fishing, and golfing. He still doesn't understand fuck all about it, but he's chill with it and thinks the painting part is cool. Gifts are easy as fuck now, I just find a miniature that he'd like and paint it up, last one was a Christmas-ey reindeer.

>> No.73458699

new models on saturday? cool

>> No.73458702

Daisy chains still work just fine, you just have to end them in a triangle of three models instead of ending them in 1 model.

Screening just got less efficient though, thats the truth.

>> No.73458706

I have fond memories of fourth, except for Jervis johnson's obsession with with simplifying every option out of every codex he could get his hands on.

Dark angels: let's force hilariously restrictive options on tactical squads! Can't take special or heavies unless you have a full 10 man squad!

The entire 4th chaos codex. The entire thing. "Renegade marines" my ass. Going from the glory that was the 3rd edition revision book to the 4th edition garbage book was one of the worst things I have ever seen in codex design. Every demon, regardless of god used a generic stat line. Legion rules? Gone. Demonic gifts? Gone. Veteran skills? Gone. Cult terminators? Gone.

I've played tyranids since they were an index faction in the back of the 3rd edition rule book, and even when the travesty that was the 5th edition tyranid codex was released I still didn't feel as bad as chaos players did. Yes, 5th edition tyranids lost almost all of their individual customizability, and the codex was fucked in terms of competitiveness almost as soon as it was released, but it did not fundamentally break the Army as a concept. The 4th chaos codex killed player enthusiasm so bad that chaos went from one of the most played armies to one of the least, and the backlash was so bad it completely reversed GW's codex design trend at the time. Fuck the 4th edition chaos codex.

>> No.73458708

>this much complication for coherency
>morale phase changed to try and make LD stat matter

Why don't they just do what tons of other wargames do. The LD stat or equivalent relates to the size of aura abilities and how far away a model can be from the unit leader.

>> No.73458713

>pre-8e: "Unit spacing was autistic."
>9e: "Hold my beer."

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>> No.73458719

It was autistic because of blast markers, not because of how coherency worked.

>> No.73458724

>shooting twice
i want to die

>> No.73458730

lmao will there ever be a reason to run anything but MSU anymore?

>> No.73458733

So it's a better Multi-Melta, but still bad.

>> No.73458737
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well gee just when I thought they were going to balance things

>laughs in 60000 assault multi-meltas

>> No.73458743

Now this is true autistic spreading

>> No.73458747

Gameplay smoothbrain here
How will Negrons fare in 9th? Any ideas?
I remember seeing lists plain out just spamming Immortals cos the Warriors were shite. Think they'll be good now?

>> No.73458751

>min squad shits out 6 shots with a 29" threat range
pretty good

>> No.73458752

>remove blast markers
>no more autism over coherency
>"Hey, lets make unit coherency more autistic."

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>double tap 24" assault melta weapons on a T5 W3 BS3+ chassis
yummy yummy primaricreep
loyalist cucks deserve the bullet

>> No.73458769
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Its alright, I didn't want to be relevant anyway.

Why are so many primaris units just better than eldar equivalents at the exact same job, this is fucking gay.

>> No.73458773

lmao the baneblade, or in fact any LoW just got way worse

>> No.73458777

we have no idea, they are getting a brand new dex as soon as 9th drops, so come back then

>> No.73458784

Because GW treats marinefags like literal children. Every option needs to be incredibly good or they throw a fit.

>> No.73458785

How is multiwound unit melting bad lmao. They can reach out and poke anything up to 29" twice at a 3+, up to 35"if they roll a 6 on advance.

>> No.73458786

There your answer.

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Based GW making crypteks immune to sniping

>> No.73458798

Where would I find the info on how to designate Word Bearer sergeants? Is it just a white helmet? Does it matter? I know ultras have some dudes in white helmets, and last night I saw a guy paint A NL sergeant with a white helmet. Didn't know if there was something special for WB or not.

>> No.73458801
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How decent is pic related? I know it's not the old SC box with the raider but getting some wyches and reavers is stlll pretty decent right?

>> No.73458804
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How to congaline in 9th.

>> No.73458808

Yeah too bad you dont buy enough to make GW cares about your faction.

>> No.73458809

Marinefags /are/ literally children as far as their mental state goes. Look around your FLGS and talk to the marine players. 4/5 of them, at least in the US, will be various levels of obsessed grog or mentally deprived basedboy

>> No.73458813

>blast markers
Battlefleet gothic is another game.

>> No.73458816

So they're just necron servitors, okay then. I was expecting some interesting mechanics but I guess not.

>> No.73458817

Why even make that change to conga lines? It makes them maybe 2 inches shorter adds a 200 word essay to unit coherency.

>> No.73458818

>point out the stupidity of putting a melta weapon on a slow platform
>"Nah, man, it's not Gravis."
>"Nah, man, it gets to advance and fire without penalties."
>is Gravis
>do not get to advance and fire without penalties

They could have just made an Inceptor variant with a pair of meltaguns. Imagine that, a fast unit with all the durability of Gravis and two shots due to two weapons.

>> No.73458820

Seems like these thralls can intercept sniper shots for crypteks as snipers ignore character targeting, not this aura ability.

also 6 S5 AP-1 attacks per model is fucking tasty.

>> No.73458822

>Assault multi-meltas that shoot twice
Holy FUCK why can't things just settle down and be balanced
On the positive side these dudes will be able to nuke a tank quickly, which marines previously weren't able to do efficiently. Devastators could try but being 1W models means if you opponent goes first they just die.
T5 and 3W helps too.

>> No.73458824
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Just like most of the specialist games, BFG was and still is better mechanically than 40k.

Too bad people like their space marines more than cathedral ships, titans, fighter jets, and gangers.

>> No.73458841

Understood, thanks for clarifying

>> No.73458842

Normal players
>A unit moves together
>Never has to measure, always gets it right
Autistic players
>A unit moves 2" horizontally and 5" vertically of another model in the unit unless it's 6 or more models then it has to be in 2" 5" from two models
>Measures every placement. Still manages to get it wrong.

>> No.73458846

Same reason multi-meltas are bad. Too many points for what they do. 5 PL is ~100 points, so ~33 pts per model.

SoB can run multi-melta retributor squads that can double-tap, and they're still bad.

>> No.73458847

Because 40k tourny players think they're smart
Anon, they only have 'scythed limbs', not 2 of them. It's 3 attacks each.

>> No.73458850

>not characters
neat ability but not terribly worried about it

>> No.73458852
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Oh no bros, conga is dead.

>> No.73458855

Wyches aren't very good. You generally want to lean into Kabalite and Coven units.

>> No.73458856
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Anyone wanna make an attempt at this ancient meme updated for the new eradicator squads?

>> No.73458864

>cant keep up with flytek
boo hiss

>> No.73458865

multi meltas are heavy weapons. These are assault weapons. If your estimation is right that is 11pts/T5 wound before factoring in the melta.

>> No.73458866

it says they get +3A when close to crypteks

>> No.73458867

Do we declare manlets dead yet? I recently played a game with my manlets against a full Primaris force. I can't imagine the divide once this new edition rolls around.


>> No.73458876

RP and LM means they will be annoying + a 5++ if the 'tek has a chromotron

>> No.73458881
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>systematic vigour
>Models in this unit change their weapon skill and ballistic skill characteristic to 3+ and their attacks characteristic to 6 whilst this unit is within 6" of any friendly crypteks.

>> No.73458883


Conga lines are absolutely still a thing.

You just need to have 2 models on the ends of them. Every other model in the unit will naturally be within 2" of 2 other models.


>> No.73458887

So what is the purpose of the rule even?

>> No.73458889

Read the whole data sheet before posting anon

>> No.73458892

All my imperial armies are going to use marine rules
Super metas? SoB have the same one
Bolter shooting 90000 times? My guardsmen with bolter are going to the same thing
Extra bonus just for existing? My Inquisitor are getting that too
Fuck marines and their equal attention cake

>> No.73458893

I'm amazed they actually thought that this stops chains. The solution is incredibly apparent almost immediately to anyone with two brain cells to rub together. What they should have done if they wanted to kill chains was put a maximum distance between any two models in a unit, so your unit could not extend a chain beyond whatever arbitrary number. And even then you just take minimum sized units and stretch them out.
How would /tg/ stop chaining?

>> No.73458895

Sorry anon, I'm retarded. Thanks for pointing it out, I only saw BS 3+ and asssumed they got WS buff instead of attack buff.
I mean, they obviously are but loyalist soibois will continue to whimper that they're not being replaced as they quietly pick up another box of primaris and put more of their manlets on the shelf

>> No.73458897

Looks like GW is actually going to try to fix Necrons after doing absolutely nothing for them during all of 8th edition, if these rules are anything to go by.

>> No.73458912

They probably meant 3 so you're forced to move in a blob, but they are really, really bad at geometry.

>> No.73458932

Do the star wars legion rules modified for 40k

Your models in a unit must be within [LD] of their unit leader at the end of each move.

>> No.73458940
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>> No.73458959

>Ancient meme
Those sculpts are up to date though!

>> No.73458961

>I mean, they obviously are but loyalist soibois will continue to whimper that they're not being replaced as they quietly pick up another box of primaris and put more of their manlets on the shelf
It's fucking sad that we let GW do this to the army that got most of us into the hobby. I have no interest in playing Primaris marines. The lore is for homos, and a majority of the models look like hot garbage. I will keep playing manlets until they officially squat them. So, that'll be 10th edition.

>> No.73458966
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So, now that Death Guard can use a strat to give Leviathan Dreadnoughts disgustingly resilient are we going to see a second wave of compfags running on recasters?

>> No.73458974

Making unit coherency 3 models would have made it difficult to maintain unit coherency with small units, something like that should only be done with 11+ units that actually have the model count to run such coherency.

10 man units will have difficulty daisy-chaining effectively now because of the update but hordes can still do it just fine.

>> No.73458982

Grow up and play a different faction, anon. Literally any other faction.

>> No.73458988

no, because gw re-writing forgeworld rules will hopefully make them balanced

>> No.73458989

As of now, yes. But we don't know if FW is going to get squatted or not.

>> No.73459011
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They're ancient sculpts.

the craftworld model range has been on life support for over a decade now, they're unambiguously the army in most need of a dark eldar/necron style overhaul.

but fuck knows when they're ever going to get it, warp spider sculpts are probably older than most of the playerbase by this point, the fuckers were a recent release when sisters metal models were brand new.

>> No.73459012

>Grow up and play a different faction, anon. Literally any other faction.
Okay. Then what happens when they do it to the next faction? Then the one after that?

>> No.73459017

>compfags and collectors alike shitting out thousands and thousands of dollars for shit even in spite of recasters existing
>getting squatted
As delusional as thinking marinelets aren't getting softsquatted.

>> No.73459021
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Jesus fucking christ

>> No.73459023

Leviathans are pretty balanced.

The reason they're used is GW's reluctance to give DG any real ranged options.

>> No.73459024

There's a rumour that out of coherency models are removed in the morale phase until the unit is back in coherency.

So any casualties to your daisy chain will kill the entire chain down to 6 models.

>> No.73459040

Anon, you're talking about the same company that destroyed entire armies on a whim because they wanted to move from square to round bases while also removing some armies completely.

>> No.73459043
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Other factions don't have the same newbie/marvel migrant draw as loyalist marines. When other factions start getting the same treatment it's safe to call the setting officially unsalvageable and leave for greener pastures if you haven't already.
Find something that doesn't blow before the end comes, anon, even something like grey knights or tau.

>> No.73459053

>36" Heavy 16, S8,-1 2D hittong on 2s, re-rolling ones

>> No.73459054


the devil is in the detail of price, buuuuuuut they seem fucking great

>> No.73459061

>GW! My melta-marines didn't one-shot their target!
>It's alright honey, you can shoot again if you want

>> No.73459063

>bolt pistols
>on gravis armour

>> No.73459064
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>cries in SoB

The fact that the multi-melta is so garbage is fucking bullshit.

>> No.73459067


>Total Obliteration

Why do units in nu40k just get random skills for no real reason?

Literally for manchildren

>> No.73459076

Orks within 30" of the boss because of mob rule
I can dig it.

>> No.73459078

300 points
They don't get reroll of 1's without a lord.

Stop being a faggot

>> No.73459082
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>Thinks Abba is a SoS
Come on, he isn't even wearing a facemask.

>> No.73459089

Because universal special rules are hard!

Honestly just naming the special abilities units have isn't egregious at all. I see no issue with it in general.

>> No.73459091
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When I get back into the game in time for 10th edition, I'll probably use my manlets as Chaos Marines with minimal fuss.

>> No.73459099

>5+ invuln
whats it like being a brainlet

>> No.73459111

you got a twitter or something my guy

>> No.73459121

not who your replying to, but I think its more, "Why can this primaris melta unit shoot twice just because?"

>> No.73459124

I mean, obviously rules like that would have to be tweaked.

>> No.73459133

I miss universal special rules. Especially FnP, there's so many fucking models that have FnP and they all have the same fucking text describing the rule, it's incredibly widespread and exactly what universal rules are designed for.
Probably just personal autism, but still.

>> No.73459137

With the DG strat it gets disgust so
> T8 14W 2+ 5++ 5+++
all for 289. It's a wonderful distraction piece. You can't ignore it thanks to that S8

>> No.73459145

that sounds like a terrible rule.

>> No.73459156

because marine are vets of decades, if not centuries warfare, so they can do crazy shit. sorry you are jelly

>> No.73459161

They seem to be moving slightly more towards USRs in this edition (with things like “aura” and “blast weapon”)

So hopefully very common things like Feel no Pain and Deepstrike eventually get migrated to universal abilities printed in the rulebook

>> No.73459164

Not him but i don't really see that as overpowered.

Its a strong shooting unit.There are dozens of strong shooting units in the game.

>> No.73459173

It already exists in age of Sigmar.

Plus not being in coherency is literally not a hindrance at all in the current edition.

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Is there a way of getting these FW transfers without paying an arm and a leg for them?

>> No.73459181


But why now? Why have the designers decided on this trend in the last few years?

>> No.73459183
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I barely follow the meta these days.
Nearly all my interests in 40K is 'Oh, this looks cool'.

>> No.73459196

print them yourself mate, it's not even hard

>> No.73459201

Chaos marines have been vets for longer and they have to use CP to do it

>> No.73459203

No it didn't and they never said it would.

>> No.73459204

new units get fun new rules

>> No.73459207

Sounds hilarious actually imagining what would happen on the field, though.
>, oh fuck, I've no longer got two friends, just that asshole Jim! Guys, wait for me!
>Frank, where are you going? Wait up!
>Jim, don't leave without me!
>Are we retreating? I don't know what's going on!
>Damnit Terry, get back here!
And so on.

>> No.73459208

>check price
Holy fuck, they were about $20 after conversion when FW was in pounds only.

>> No.73459218

>total obliteration
just give them assault 2 and be done with that

who the fuck was going to split the fire of 3 meltas?

>> No.73459223

such are the rewards of heresy

>> No.73459242

It's simple, GW doesn't give a singular fuck about balance. They push open and narrative play and keep trying to sweep any sort of points system under the rug. If the new shit is overpowered then they'll sell more of it.

I generally play casual pick-up games and narrative campaigns. My opinion is that a balance point system is the best way to ensure both players have fun.

>> No.73459243

maybe some future unit will get meltarifles as options

>> No.73459245
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>people complain about primaris
>when marines were getting such retarded shit as centurions and that cherry picker tank by the end

>> No.73459246

They should have just been rapid fire

>> No.73459251
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Because primaris are space marine aspect warriors and aspect warriors have had rules like that to reinforce their tactical niche since at least third edition.

Space marines have changed lanes completely from "generalists" to "Specialists."

>> No.73459260

>Wyches aren't very good
any likelihood of that changing in the new edition?

>> No.73459265

In “single purpose squad with unique wargear: the edition”?
Not likely.

The marine book has about 7 different plans guns in it. No other unit will get the melta rifle

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>hurdur gw just don't care about balance
they obviously care, that's why they literally have ITC jackasses playtesting and influencing rules. It's just the basic system the game is built on is terrible so balancing is always going to be a slapdash mess of bandaids, even if GW had competent staff.
Reminder that this was their level of competence going into 8th, and it's not at all surprising that they were absolutely sure this was acceptable and good.

>> No.73459272

Probably with the melee changes.

>> No.73459280

I'm with you on that. Why the hell isn't firing twice a unit stratagem for Eradicators, especially in CP swamped 9th? Are they going to pretend obliterating only a single target is some kind of penalty to balance it out?

>> No.73459285

>My main complaint on templates, with hindsight, is they caused a fuck load of faffing about in the movement phase as everyone tried to maximise the space between each of their models to avoid having the entire unit wiped by a lucky pieplate.
I think that the 3 inch between models was too big for horde armies. Not only did it look absolutely ridiculous but it also made templates not even that effective and made the movement phase take way too long.
3 inch for units of size 10 and below, 2 inches for size 20 and below, 1 inch for size 30 and below

>> No.73459301

because in the full releases they will likly be max size 6 like every other gravis unit dummy

>> No.73459303

Confirmed for playing on tables with no real terrain

>> No.73459306

>opponent puts their seargent with plasma up the daisy chain to get him into range
>remove other casualties first
>now out of coherency, sarge gets offed

so we just move units and remove models in an order with this in mind. should just be an adjustment in playstyle instead of a huge to do.

>> No.73459317


>> No.73459323

>Shoot twice
>Don’t even need a fucking robot baby
Why would anyone agree to play against Space Marines at this point?

>> No.73459335

why not force movement trays?

>> No.73459346

>will probably be 40ppm
>kills my 122 point leman russ in 1 turn
>oh no
>immediately obliterate them from 240 inches next turn with basilisks cause they cant ride transports
who cares

>> No.73459348

Cawl will give them pointy ears to replace Eldar models in the future
You've read that here, first

>> No.73459352

If your entire unit is spread into a chain so that they are exactly in coherency with *only* two other models, as soon as you lose one model from the unit, *no* model is in coherency with two other models and the entire unit dies (down to 5 models)

>> No.73459363

Because they are closer to 33ppm due to their 5 power

>> No.73459365


Oh totally, GW hasn't known what to do with Marines for years.

They'll never make anything as iconic as Terminator Armour ever again, they just don't have the will to. We'll just get stuff like that terrible Shrike or the Imperial Fisto guy for the MCU transplants to gobble up.

>> No.73459369


>> No.73459378

>cause they cant ride transports
>[Laughs in 9th ed Outlfank]

>> No.73459386

well, this isn't entirely true I suppose.

Depending on which model you kill, you lose at least half of the chain, up to the entire chain.

>> No.73459390

My guess is they'll be around 30 points.

>> No.73459417

>GW announced full FW range getting rules at launch on warcom

>> No.73459421

>deep strikes them in
>no matter what they shoot at they earn their points back and more guaranteed
heh, nothing personnel non-marines

>> No.73459425

Nobody takes non-commander leman russes, you dunce

>> No.73459450

I sure can't wait for daring the daring Primaris Arachnidators who brave the warp to teleport close enough to their enemy to shred them with cutting adamantium ribbons.

>> No.73459458

Maybe don’t play the gay army and you will be good

>> No.73459474

Should I feel bad for being a Custodes player?

>> No.73459602

Not much of a conga line though. They are going to be way shorter. Or you will have to devote more units to get the same result.

>> No.73459743

so then you take a casualty and the formation collapses.

>> No.73459814

wyches are useful in min units because their nets lock stuff up and then they can use their invuln. But yes I do wish 20 wyches charging from the webway was good, but without charge bonuses it isn't happening.

>> No.73459847

>24 in melta
>3w t5
jesus christ. these are ridiculous. Meanwhile CSMs, chosen and so on are all dogshit and have 1 wound. primarishit is so tiresome.

>> No.73460228

Because your average Primaris player sounds like this >>73458808 >>73459458

>> No.73460260

Speaking of which
What's stopping CSM from looting, robbing, raiding, stealing, pillaging the Primaris equipment? You can't tell me not a single Primarishit died ever. or they have never lost a single battle.

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>> No.73461024

Are the omnibus’s worth buying if i just want a pile of content about a specific faction?

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