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shitcast retardturnal faggots i fucking hate them so much edition

>Previously on /aosg/:
>>73429239

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nofile.io/f/EbyKWbMJVbM/dark+elf+photoshop+template.psd

>Thread Question:
this guy smacks your (aelf) girls ass. what do?

>> No.73437238

>>73437195
Question:Why did the Double Faggoty Twins get their elf army before the rightful Phoenix King?

>> No.73437426

>>73437238
Based on an old White Dwarf, I think Malerion was meant to get his first. There was, post Deepkin, some little side box in WD that talks about the elf factions (Sylvaneth and Deepkin are two factions for example) and it then followed up with something like 'what's next' and it was like 'Malerion has been working hard...' or something like that. They're likely already done, shit is done 3 years in advance. My guess is GW wanted Malerion to be last in case they decided to put some stuff from old DE range in. As it stands, the Elf factions are all designed around morality.

Good - LRL
Neutral-Good - Deepkin
Neutral - Sylvaneth
Neutral-Evil - DoK
Evil - Malerion

Unless GW makes another elf faction that Tyrion makes (doubtful), that seems logical. GW needs to make another Destruction faction and Insect Race seems to be the most logical. As I said last thread, I'd like Neutral factions back too, but I don't think GW will do it. I'd also like Mercenaries to be expanded. Turn them into Dogs of War with unique one off units.

>> No.73437449

>>73437426
>Neutral-Good - Deepkin
read court of the blind king, Deepkin are assholes like delves were and its really entertaining.
They run the entire whole neutral gambit with a hefty amount of neutral evil.

>> No.73437490

>>73437426
>Implying Malekith’s Dudes will somehow be less moral than Morathi’s insane plan to become a goddess by pretending that the Worst Elf God is still alive
You sure about that, buddy?

>> No.73437526

>>73437490
Evil isn't more evil than neutral evil, it means it has no bias on the law-chaos axis.

>> No.73437689

the other rumour engines

https://warbosskurgan.blogspot.com/p/rumour-engines.html#2019-09-03

https://warbosskurgan.blogspot.com/p/rumour-engines.html#2019-09-17

https://warbosskurgan.blogspot.com/p/rumour-engines.html#2019-09-23

>> No.73437818
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>>73437689
The fact that we still haven't seen this one makes me think there is an unrevealed 4th Behemat model. Maybe some kind of leader giant?

>> No.73438051

Any ogre anons that could redpill me on some stuff?
>how good are on foot ogres in general?
>how are Hunters? Sabertusks?
>what are essential units for a good list?
>what are trap options that lead to garbage lists?
>besides the core rule download and the battle tome, what other stuff must I have for play?

>> No.73438094

bets on preorders?
indomitus is next week's announcement so it won't be it

>> No.73438181

>>73438051
>Foot ogres in general
They're the linebackers of any gutbuster list and still some of the best in mixed and beastclaw forces. Gluttons are the best of them thanks to all the buffs they can get, but Ironguts are still some of the nastiest infantry in the game that isn't outright broken
>Hunters+sabretusks
You can get some pretty memey lists out of them, but most of the time, you'll just want a small amount for backline objective snagging
>Essentials
Gluttons, butchers, slaughtermasters, and Frostlords on a Stonehorns. If Gluttons are your linebackers, then a Stonehorn Frostlord is a tank with chainsaws taped to it. It's probably the single best unit in the army when taken with the right traits and items.
>traps
Ironblasters, any gnoblars, and gorgers are all completely worthless. They're pretty much the only things you have to absolutely avoid, just about everything else can be decent to good with the right list, but it might have to focus on buffing them, like with yhetees and mournfang cav.
>books
If you're going for the bare minimum, then what you've listed is it. I'd recommend getting the gaming book, since it has all the main crunch from the core book, GHB, and malign sorcery.

>> No.73438278

Did they discontinue the legions of Nagash warcry cards? Or were they never sold in the UK?

>> No.73438291

>>73437818
What if it is a faction terrain piece it is part of?

>> No.73438316

>>73438278
All the warcry card sets have been limited run.
LoN rules are in the Tome of Champions 2019.

>> No.73438327

>>73438316
Ah ok, cheers. That kinda sucks though! Flipping GW got me again.

>> No.73438385

>>73438181
Thx.
Shame to see gnoblars being that worthless

>> No.73438395
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A mix of fur colours for mournfangs or one single uniform fur?

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>>73438395
lol, somebody saved my picture of my dudes? funny, at least use the updated version with some basing

>> No.73438420

>>73438051
>foot ogors
gluttons are good damage, but sub-par durability (even factoring in wounds). suffer greatly as soon as they fight anything with armor. they're okay, but worth taking. shine in certain matchups, underwhelming in many. 12, 3, or 0. always dual wield.
ironguts are excellent damage with reach. if two buffs land on an 8-man unit their damage is actually insane, up there with the other top tier damage units in the game. better save but too elite, so glass cannons.
>hunter/frost sabres
both bad at attacking and defending, but cats can be very useful tactically as screens or speed bumps. hunter deepstrike is useful for the same reason. trying to combo his CA is a meme.
>essentials
boulderhead: eurl/jorlbad units. frostlord is the best unit in the book, but all stonehorns are useful, the 10 capturing changes the game. blood vulture always.
guts/mixed: still frostlord, also slaughtermaster/butcher, a unit of 12 gluttons, and imo at least one 8-man ironguts
>traps
all of your shooting is complete trash, even in underguts. thundertusks, leadbelchers, ironblasters, everything. looks bad on paper and seeing it on the table did not change my opinion. also gorgors, gnoblars (you'd think they'd make good chaff but no. so slow they hinder your development and mawtribes doesn't really have the points for proper chaff).
>other books?
that's pretty much it. we tend to use a realm artefact in every list, but I wouldn't buy malign sorcery just for an ethereal amulet - just equip it. General's handbook is nice for all the battleplans in there.

>> No.73438437

>>73437238
being an Avatar of Khaine is way more prestigious than being called a phoenix king.

>> No.73438456

>>73438395
When it comes to "natural" things like skin color and fur, I tend to choose variety. I tie the army together through things like uniforms and body paint. For example, my ogres all have slightly different skin tones varying from dark blues to almost white, with a bunch of shades in-between, but all their gutplates and armor are the same shade of dark gunmetal with scratched red paint on them.

>> No.73438470

>>73437238
Phoenix King for like 5 minutes before Teclis busted the vortex and his kingdom sank.

Good job.

>> No.73438493

LRL model building update: models are spindly as fuck, as to be expected, but surprisingly detailed in a lot of small areas. Lots of ropes, hair, tassles, etc with super fine details. It's actually really cool.

On a semi-related note: Court of the Blind King was much better than I thought it was going to be, I wish I read it sooner.

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sons of behemat when

>> No.73438702

I have a question

I dont want to shit on AoS, but how did it had so many shitty art pieces in 1st edition? End Times which was relatively recent to AoS had spectular art, did they fire everyone and hired new people for a *fresh start* kind of thing?

>> No.73438728

>>73438420
>all of your shooting is complete trash, even in underguts
What are you talking about? In underguts leadbelchers and ironblasters do their fair share of work, I've seen many succesful lists and a chaff of gnoblars really is slow but using soulscream bridge as you should be in an underguts list, coupled with the CA of the tyrant are an big chaff unit that you position at front of whoever you want after teleporting. The thundertusk really is a trap at the moment and gorgers are just used in a very niche way, but almost all our book is viable in some kind of list.

>> No.73438736

>>73438702
Its a genuine mystery, we think it involves Kirby really trying to push for a completely "separate" game from warhammer fantasy which included art style.

Thankfully they brought Paul Dainton, Kopinski and some others back to do AoS 2.0+40k 8th ed and they're still around doing new stuff.

>> No.73438800

>>73438702
AoS is a completely different game in almost every regard, that includes outside talent. GW went cheap on the artists they hired since 90% of people really won't give a shit

>> No.73438833

>>73438800
I don't think we even have names for the 1.0 artists, do we? Clearly Chinese outsourcing, I think.

>> No.73438850

>>73438833
most likely. the art since soul wars is a vast improvement though

>> No.73438883

>>73438850
Yeah even Malign Portents brought a lot of hype back just for the fact that it started to look like Warhammer again.

>> No.73438911
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>>73438702
you also have to realize that 2 of their premier artists left to pursue other projects, and they are the 2 artists most responsible for GWs modern look and their highest quality art

karl kopinski and adrian smith. these 2 guys have done probably 80% of all the pieces that anyone refers to when citing good GW art, and they did probably 60-70% of the art for a stretch of 10-15 years thereabouts. when they left, GW went from having 2 of the most productive and skilled fantasy artists in the entire industry to suddenly having to scramble to get people who could get the job done

now this is just a guess, but my hunch is part of this is due to the fact that kopinski and smith both started as jr.s at GW, and that their rates or compensation were probably lower than they should have been getting relative to their skill, which is masterful. likely they are able to both make more money and work on a wider range of projects having left GW in house

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>>73438911
>karl kopinski and adrian smith. these 2 guys have done probably 80% of all the pieces that anyone refers to when citing good GW art
Don't forget Paul Dainton.

There's about a 50-50 chance any "Kopinski" art piece you're thinking of is actually a Dainton. Bump that up to 75-25 if its in color.

Pic related: Not actually Kopinski.

>likely they are able to both make more money and work on a wider range of projects having left GW in house
Pretty much, they've thankfully recontracted Kopinski and Dainton for recent stuff. Kopinski specifically does small portraits and stuff, I think but Daintons done some fantastic large battle pieces.

>> No.73438966

Anyone have a Lumineth battletome pdf ?

>> No.73438986

>>73438966
Go back two(?) threads and there are a lot of good pictures of pretty much everything.

>> No.73439032
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>>73437195
>That pic
Piros is still at it I see.

>> No.73439034

>>73438702
AoS 0.5 (Pre GHB) was a half-assed rush job helmed by Kirby while he knew he was on his way out. They didn't have the time to think things through and a good number of things were designed with kirby's ideology of "Games workshop is a miniatures company first, games second" in mind.
Even then though, there are still some nice things, namely those anime looking Archaon ones

>> No.73439042

>>73438939
He had such a great way to picture weight and detail into his art

>> No.73439070

>>73438420
>>73438181
So there's no point to using hunters and on foot ogors together eh. That's kinda disappointing. Been wanting to avoid using cav stuff but if they are that good, there's not much of a choice.

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>>73439042
Completely agree. He and Kopinski were excellent at blending realism and fantasy in such an awesome way.

Also Dainton has done the only two pieces of stormcast art that actually looks really good (that I can think of)

>> No.73439195

>>73439076
ehehehe benis

>> No.73439297

>>73438702
I think it was a horribly rushed time at GW, starting from the latter half of the end times. I'm 99% sure they originally planned to have more ET books - there are storylines which are being set up, characters & armies going here or there, but then in the last couple of books everything gets wrapped up as fast as possible with a lot of "oh yeah, those guys all died offscreen" going on. At that rush would have cut down on development time for AOS with negative effects for the 1.0 release, including what artwork they could commission.

>> No.73439343

>>73438966
We only have the special edition floating around since the normal tome and PDF aren't released yet

>> No.73439346

Tyrion and Malekith...

im pretty sure i will give up on this game before they make an elf army i can like.

>> No.73439381

>>73439297
I remember from the interview that the rules for AOS 1.0 were still being written during the end times so it was definitely done on a short time table.

>> No.73439388

>>73439346
Deepkin are cool af and LRL without cows are a surprisingly deep army with cool looking stuff.

>> No.73439464
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>>73437195
Soon

>> No.73439630

>>73438702
Rumor has it the designers begged GW not to scrap Fantasy and were given a deadline and a shoestring budget and that terrible artwork was literally the best they could afford.

>> No.73439640

>>73439388
Yeah, if only we'd gotten literally any other temple first. Though I wonder how they'll fuck the others up. Maybe make the River spirit a Platypus? Find an excuse to make Zenith anything but a Dragon?

>> No.73439666

>>73439640
>we'll never get a second wave
>This will always loom over us as a what if

>> No.73439669
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>>73439640
Well we already know this is a phoenix.

>> No.73439710

>>73439669
>phoenix
griffon?

>> No.73439781

Is this seriously the level of OP we've sunk to?

>> No.73439784

>>73439781
You sound fun to be around.

>> No.73439791

>>73439781
No one to blame but yourself, nearly every recent thread died before a new one was made because no one gives a fuck. How about you make the next one if it bothers you so much?

>> No.73439814

>>73439710
You might think, but no.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/02/24/at-the-speed-of-lightgw-homepage-post-1/
>This is further emphasised by the majestic phoenix design on the Dawnriders’ fluttering banner

>> No.73439827

>>73439640
The river spirit will probably be a koi fish or something vaguely asian.

>> No.73439833

>>73439814
>Each Dawnrider also carries a curved shield, the shape of which implies that it would be used to deflect incoming blows while moving at at speed rather than to parry them directly.
I hope someone got fired for this

>> No.73439836

>>73439781
We haven't sunk that low, it could be worse, it could be furfaggotry.

>> No.73439841
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>the battletome is gonna tell you all about the runes!
>battletome has 8 runes

>> No.73439868

>>73439841
the other ones are just high elf runes, asuryan and whatnot.

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I really hope you aren't the kind of subhuman that would do this.

>> No.73440010

>>73438405
Awful bases

>> No.73440015

>>73439669
That's obviously a gryphon (i know the article says its a phoenix, but the models have an actual ohoenix on their shields and it looks nothing lile that)

>> No.73440078

>>73439971
??

>> No.73440092

>>73440015
Yeah, I wouldn't trust WH community articles/comments, they're there to hype things up, not to actually clarify things.

>> No.73440145

I wonder if Nagash had more mortarchs in the past. If so, I wonder if we'll ever hear of them.

>> No.73440217

>>73440078
Don't pretend you don't see the cavalry charging sideways.

>> No.73440227

>>73440217
But for what purpose? what is being attempted there?

>> No.73440246

>>73439841
high elves light, for retards, with cows
how can an army even have 4 units?
the train wreck cant be salvaged.

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Are the female miniatures in this picture old GW minis or 3rd party? Are they old Witch Elves?

>> No.73440272

>>73439827
I should fucking hope so. If we get the old fish helmets back and a nice Koi spirit I might even give this army a try.

>> No.73440281

>>73440259
Pretty sure they're the old metal Witch Elves. The dude in the middle looks very much like a kitbash though.

>> No.73440282

>>73440227
It's done so they cover more more horizontal space and they can fight in two ranks, but it's and looks completely retarded.

>> No.73440283

>>73440246
Hello bot

>> No.73440325

>>73440272
I don't want my swordmasters to have fish helmets...

>> No.73440346

Does GW progress the plot in AoS?
Any chance of characters dying in the lore?

>> No.73440353

>>73440325
Don't worry, they won't have swords either, they'll wield tridents.

>> No.73440368

Okay am I going mad I swear there was a guy asking about how to get into AoS from 40k, I just left a comment saying he should get Wrath and Rapture as a goo daemons starter set. Now neither the original comment nor my reply are here. Did I just hallucinate this shit?

>> No.73440382

>>73440281
Thanks anon

>> No.73440385

Got 20 Hammerers and a Greywater sc. Why are Dispossessed bad? I get the feeling it's wounds and the lack of +1 to hit +1 to wound synergies alongside the arbitrary 1" range profiles cheaper phoenix guard and such get 2" on

>> No.73440389

>>73440368
I saw someone mention Wrath and Rapture cause some random anon was asking about slaanesh.
Weird.

>> No.73440401

>>73440353
We already know they have swords. Wind temole has archers.

>> No.73440413

>>73440346
I think the next big thing is Azyr being assaulted. I'd love to have Sigmar wounded badly enough that it weakens him and allows other order races to step up or normal mortals to fend for themselves while Stormcast go on defense. They could put out a unit of super defensive shield stormcast even.

>> No.73440414

>>73440385
They are a slow melee army with no range and overcosted units. Before, they had chep basic troops that were really good and versatile and good ranged options and artillery, but GW thought it was a good idea to squat them.

>> No.73440416
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>mention chariots and artillery in the lore
>only release 4 units

>> No.73440421

>>73440413
>Azyr being assaulted
It's Excelsis, for fucks sake.

>> No.73440429

>>73440416
They have a pretty lengthy chain of command too and we get no generic heroes that aren't random mages.

>> No.73440446

>>73440385
dispossessed are generally slow, pillowfisted and overcosted. they have a few ok units, namely irondrakes and the gyrocopters/bombers, but the gyro vehicles are a $50 kit for a tiny model thats cheap on the table, so you end up paying almost a dollar a point . most other dispossessed kits are similarly expensive.

the melee units are almost prohibitively slow and dont hit hard enough in melee to justify it unlike their fyreslayer cousins, and dont really have any ways to mitigate this flaw. you can kind of get around the mobility issue a bit with things like living cities outflanking or a spell like the soulscream bridge, but in general other units in the army just do all the same jobs better and for fewer points. they also exist in the same tome as pheonix guard who are some of the best infantry in the game, so they have stiff competition

>> No.73440452

>>73440346
>Does GW progress the plot in AoS?
Yes. They manage to progress it with lots of new battles and units getting introduced and somehow the status quo remains the same:
>Chaos squatting at the center
>Stormcast winning new territory
>Death stealing territory from Chaos and Order
>Destruction does fuck all

>> No.73440462

Dispossessed are largely overpriced for their stats, irondrakes being the exception, and they have very limited options and synergies. No battalion, only two heroes, so the only buffs available are basically +1 rend and +1 melee attack.

They just don't have anything going for them that other CoS subfactions don't do better.

They're all slow 1 one wound models with average bravery and defense, and outside of hammerers/irondrakes pretty blah offense.

>> No.73440480

>>73440446
>>73440462
And people will still pretend CoS both a good idea and well implemented.

>> No.73440513

>>73440480
it was a good idea, but yeah the internal balance is terrible. 80% of dark elves and 90% of dispossessed are unusably bad, pheonix temple is broken as shit, and theres little reason to run any city other than hallowheart, and the wanderer stuff is so forgettable i have yet to see any of it hit the table in a CoS army

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https://twitter.com/philkellywords/status/1277176289514926080?s=21

>> No.73440559

>>73440537
Damn they look good ranked up. I need to see them in square bases.

>> No.73440565

>>73440414
4" doesn't seem that bad? Guard have 5". It's slow for sure but I don't think it's a game breaker save that they don't have cav options to compensate outside of allies and gyros.
>>73440446
Yeah, I thought that. Worst options in the book for sure.

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>> No.73440580

>>73440513
>it was a good idea
I don't think it was. It should have been just the human battletome. Every other faction got shafted big time in both models and rules (except dark elves, but I assume they'll be absorbed by malerion's elves). Hell even the humans lost lots of things for no good reason.

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https://twitter.com/__wintersoldier/status/1276823090979315718?s=21

>> No.73440585

>>73440565
>4" doesn't seem that bad? Guard have 5"
Freeguild has handgunners, artillery and cavalry. Dwarfs only have slow infantry and a gyrocopter.

>> No.73440593

>>73440559
They obviously can't be ranked up on square bases. Look at how he had to position them.

>> No.73440610

>>73440581
Weird how GW only gave them 4 subfactions and couldn't even be bothered to show a single model of one of them.

>> No.73440612

>>73440581
Why is that Moomineth Realmlord painted like a Dark Elf Executioner?

>> No.73440630

>>73440580
you dont understand the stakes. GW was in the process of squatting all of the non-tome microfactions, as in removed from the game with models discontinued. things like greenskins and the sigmar priest subfaction and such. they were clearing out molds and warehouse space for units that didnt sell anymore so they could move forward with new product lines

if it werent for some internal campaigning on the part of some of the developers, it wouldnt have been a tome and those lines would have started to dissapear in the transition through 2e

the options werent
A: big soup tome cities of sigmar
vs
B: individual tomes for each of these factions over time

the reality was
A: big soup tome cities of sigmar as a last ditch effort to condense some lines and get some sales out of it
vs
B:discontinuing all the legacy lines gradually with old molds and microfaction unsupported rules

you were never going to get that dark elf tome or dispossessed tome, and the lines damn near got squatted all together if it werent for the CoS project

>> No.73440631

It's not just that their slow, they're slow and don't have any compensation for it in stats and point costs.

A lot of CoS warscrolls are just slight uplifts of their old ones, the thing is Dispossessed prior to CoS had pretty blah stats backed up things like 50% battleshock immunity and re-rolling all saves in "shieldwall formation" or unique banners like Ironbreakers giving them a 5+ shrug vs spells. And even then they were one of the worst factions in the game.

In CoS they lost all of their special rules in exchange for maybe +1 armor, and very few warscroll buffs.

Another example of stuff just being kinda ported over is Corsairs. In their fluff, even in CoS these guys are supposedly fearsome swordmasters. In practice, years of garbage stats had sent them straight down the point reduction slide. CoS just cleans up their warscrolls a bit, prices them at 80 points for 10 and goes "Yep, looks good. Lets make a SC box that gives you 80 points worth of pirates and their 60 point commander"

>> No.73440648

>>73440630
Nice fanfiction you wrote to cope with the squatting, bro.

>> No.73440672

>>73440581
>I'm too enlightened for this shit.

>> No.73440705
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Wanna pick up bonereapers, do they need many different paints? Mostly cus of all the spooky effects even if the bones will be easy enough

>> No.73440727

>>73440585
Irondrakes?

>> No.73440764

>>73439841
The Legions of Nagash preview told me the battletome would tell me all about the undead lumberjacks of Carstinia. Once the battletome was out I realized I had been lied to. I'm still waiting for any sort of account of the Carstinian logging industry.

>> No.73440807

>>73440727
irondrakes are probably dispossesseds best unit, but they still put out the same shooting as a unit of handgunners for 50% more points. the real stength of the irondrakes is their grudgehammer torpedo. the torpedo, which can also benefit from blaze away, lets the unit leader pump 2 shots at a monster at 3s and 3s with 2 rend and d6 damage a shot. this is why you always take irondrakes in minimum units, and these guys are great if the opponent is running some important monster heroes or behemoths, things like arkhan, mawcrusha, engine of the gods, lord of change, etc. the grudgehammer torpedos are so strong in this regard that they are almost like having a mini artillery piece for a squad leader.

the irondrakes are also highly resistant to damage compared to other ranged units, and especially to the damage of shooting attacks, having 4+ saves against melee and 3+ saves vs shooting. all this means your shooting wont crumble to pieces the same way a block of handgunners or crossbowmen will as soon as they meet resistance.

i find irondrakes so good that i try to always find room for 2 units even in my non-dispossessed lists. those torpedos are just too good to pass up

>> No.73440810

>>73440630
>GW was in the process of squatting all of the non-tome microfactions
This is quite obviously not true. The foundations of the lore of them going their way have been a thing for years at this point (Alarielle forgiving wanderers, Grungni coming back and working with Dispossessed to take back their holds, Dark Elves being spies working for Malerion), which was further reinforced by the fact that for several years they've given them and even updated (even if it was to nerf it) their own allegiance abilities. CoS is an anomaly. Something that went against everything GW had been doing until that point, not the payoff or some conspirational plan as you seem to believe. Same thing with orcs and goblins and warclans. It doesn't make any sense, no matter how you try to put it.

>> No.73440820

>>73440346
Yes. Thostos Bladestorm recieved a lot of character development in the novels and short stories in which he finally comes in term with his cursed fate.

Then he got perma-killed by Archaon.

>> No.73440826

>>73440389
What the fuck is going on here.

>> No.73440926

>>73438617
Sons of big tits when?

>> No.73440943

>>73440705
Depends on the colour scheme. If you want something like the studio scheme then you'll want something like Incubi Darkness, Kabalite Green, Sybarite Green, Coelia Greenshade and Nihilakh Oxide for the robes and ghosts. A burning spirits scheme just needs a few yellows and oranges and Fuegan Orange. You can do this as easy or as complicated as you choose.

>> No.73440949

Hey guys a few months back there was the rumour engine of the FEC looking sword and hand, has any thing come of that that's been shown?

>> No.73441034

>>73440949
I don't think it's been that long, but no, there's been nothing. The elves aren't even out yet. Everything's been pushed back.

>> No.73441119

>>73440282
Do you not know about ride by attacks? Cavs did that shit all the time. Besides, it's a legal manuever and a valid tactic

>> No.73441147

>>73441119
Mate it's shock cavalry with lances. They are supposed to charge stright in, not move sideways. I know it's legal, but it's retarded and looks like shit.

>> No.73441157

>>73441147
They charged and turned. Literally nothing wrong with that

>> No.73441186

>>73441157
That's not how cavalry charges work, you dumb fuck.

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>>73441147
Mate shock cavalry usually drops their lances after impact and keeps fighting with backupweapons, ofc they split their formation and go sideways.

>> No.73441264

>>73441245
Yeah but they're starting and ending movement sideways. There should be a rule about pile in movement for this, rather than being a broad exploit that's often used

>> No.73441284

>>73441264
Seems like it's working fine. Tell me how it's actually an exploit that bypass the legal rules of the game.

>> No.73441300

>>73441284
>defending WAAC faggotry

>> No.73441306

>>73441284
Oh, it's not illegal but that doesn't mean it's not exploiting the simplicity of the rules. People place dire wolves horizontally as screens or to block areas. It's obviously not how the game was designed as seen by any gw battle report.

>> No.73441313

>>73441306
GW does battreps for nice photos.

>> No.73441325

>>73441313
They have a million battle reports on twitch and let me tell you, they are about the worst thing to take pictures at. Fuckers have a horrible camera setup.

>> No.73441339

>>73441325
Did you just admit that you subbed to warhammertv? I remember trying and vods where only for subs.

>> No.73441348

>>73441300
>has no argument thus resort to name calling
>>73441306
GW battle reports are promotional pieces, not a masterclass of gameplay.

>> No.73441350

>>73441339
It was free recently and they're free when they air

>> No.73441354

>>73441339
Anon they made the vods free like three months ago for everyone. Granted I haven't seen many because until very recently they didn't have any way of searching for anything, not even categories to look for battle reports specifically.

>> No.73441358

>>73441348
I bet you model your tau riptides prone, faggot.

>> No.73441366

>>73441348
>GW explicitly interpret a vague rule
>Hurr durr that's just because GW don't know how to play the game they designed
Okay waacfag, the game is half spectacle so enjoy tuning that for everyone involved

>> No.73441371

Worst thing about GW battle reports is that Warhammer World boards for AoS are despressingly plain compared to the awesome 40k boards they have.

>> No.73441378

>>73441358
No, and as always you are wrong, incompetent and dumb at everything you try.

>> No.73441392

>>73441366
>>GW explicitly interpret a vague rule
You can't have both explicit interpretation and a vague rule anon. Those are oxymorons.

>> No.73441396

>>73438405
>>73438395
Why is one of them black? Wouldnt your tribe have a common ancestor?

>> No.73441399

>>73441354
Im not exactly on the edge of my seat, trying to watch their vods every day.

>> No.73441401

>>73441392
The rule is vague, so you need to interpret it. There's different possible interpretations, but GW explicitely went for that one. English is not that hard.

>> No.73441407

>>73441392
Are you autistic? It's a vague rule that can be interpreted many ways. GW collectively interpret it one way.

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>>73439640
>Though I wonder how they'll fuck the others up. Maybe make the River spirit a Platypus?
You got me anon.

>> No.73441412

>>73439971
>>sideways Calvary
This is AoS. Get used to it.

>> No.73441419

>>73440559
>>73440537
and gameplay wise how would you pile-in to this shit if your dudes have 1" range?

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>>73439971

>> No.73441437

>>73441419
Awkwardky below the spears.

>> No.73441440

Historically horses moved horizontally, it's only a recent evolutionary change that altered that. I'm glad AoS gave us the chance to adopt that historical context given the game is very much renaissance inspired fantasy

>> No.73441446

>>73441419
Unironically turn them backwards like every AoS model that has this issue
Looking at your thundertusks

>> No.73441451
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>>73440217
Thats how the game plays. All cav should be on round bases like GoT because otherwise you get tokyo drifting chariots sliding sideways to hit extra units
If cav was on rounds like this you wouldnt have a problem

>> No.73441459

>>73441446
>cavalry charging sideways
>infantry attacking backwards
I hate you.

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>>73441437
and if they are tall like chaos warriors?

>>73441446
They could have angled them slightly upward like these old empire guys

>> No.73441467

>>73441407
>>73441401
Where is it written though that side charges are illegal though? Or where is it written that rules for charges are done exactly in one way? If the rules are vague enough to be used in multiple ways then multiple ways are valid to use unless explicitly written out to be false.

>> No.73441471

>>73441451
Agreed. MESBG does it aswell and it looks a lot better. Ovals are wack.

>> No.73441481

>>73441459
Oh, I hate it too I'm just saying that's what people do. It's all they can do.

>> No.73441490

>>73441467
It isn't, that's why it's vague, because movement rules are so abstract they don't really take into account many limitations that should be there. Seriously, learn to read.

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>>73441459
What? you dont like the freedom AoS gives you to position your units in a realistic manner?

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>>73439076
Kevin Chin also dose great art

>> No.73441507

>>73441467
They're not you moron, that's why it's VAGUE. GW would consider it illegal internally obviously but the rule as written allows it.
Keep in mind AoS is very vague in general: see LoS and such. Although it's perfectly legal I would go by whatever the opponent agrees to, which probably won't be to permit it

>> No.73441511

>>73441467
Its not a rules thing. Its a "horses cant gallop sideways at full speed" thing and ruins emersion

>> No.73441516
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>>73441495
I'm gonna have a siezure. I want to go back.

>> No.73441517

>>73441490
Then you have nothing to complain about sideways charges. Why are you even arguing about a non problem besides just being /tg/?

>> No.73441519

>>73441495
If you dont like it play a army that can snipe models. They kinda fixed that already.

>> No.73441528
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>>73441516
>Going backward
>No stormcast
>No 50% female model mandate
>No 30% black skin mandate
You wont be missed.

>> No.73441535

>>73441505
Look at the isolation of the hero, his solitude in the face of all this madness and darkness. It's a really good chivalric image.
MUSCULARITY

>> No.73441540
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When we will see Kurnothi?

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>>73441528
How many times have you posted that? You're obsessed. Go back to watching Archwarhammer read a Wikia

>> No.73441550

>>73441516
Never ever fag.

>> No.73441560

>>73441507
>GW would consider it illegal internally obviously but the rule as written allows it.
So it's not illegal. Unless there's an actual argument against it legally it's irrelevant.

>>73441511
Dragons can't exist and rats can't shoot lasers. "Immersion" is completely meaningless in a game that's not even attempting to be a simulation

>> No.73441561

>>73441547
>haaayyyyy meeeyyy nayyyim is Brennnnnt

>> No.73441565
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>>73441540
Why did they have to make Wood Elves shit.

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>>73441550
We're half way there.
Im sure they will fuck it up because GW is shit, but still.

>> No.73441573

>>73441528
>50% female model mandate
>30% black skin mandate
What's wrong with these, though? I'm sure your ancestors are proud of your polposting but really you have no grounds to complain. I mean do you even play?

>> No.73441581

>>73441560
Immersion isnt meaningless as long as you have a brain.

Why do models have swords instead of spoons? Its still fantasy right?

>> No.73441593

>>73441573
because making EVERY humanoid army the same makes them shit and not unique.

Araby was cool because its all arabs. Brets were cool because they were french faggots.
If they were all the same looking with different fluff that wouldnt be interesting.

>> No.73441601

>>73441581
>Why do models have swords instead of spoons? Its still fantasy right?
No halfling army, that's why.

>> No.73441602

>>73441560
Yes, but like LoS you'll have to concede that your interpretation may not be the prevailing one. Ask your opponent or TO.

>> No.73441605

>>73441581
>Never heard of warspoons
baka my head

>> No.73441616

>>73441528
If you're going to post the gay meme that drinks the bad cum. At least clean it up a little bit, you can use the eyedropper tool to use the original grey for that black splotch, then just recenter the text and get rid of that little white chunk on the top.

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>>73441540
Soon bro, soon.

>> No.73441624

>>73441593
Oh, so you're just racist against plastic toys?
Skin colour isn't background fluff and broad model aesthetics. Painting a FG General with dark skin doesn't mean it's now an Araby style model.
I hope you forget about the things you've done when you grow up. Embarrassing.

>> No.73441643

>>73441550
Jokes on you, I still have that very fortress.

>> No.73441651

>>73441602
It doesn't matter. It's got no definite answer. Being denied a valid answer still doesn't render the answer invalid.
If you want the sideways charges to go away, you need to define sides and movements more precisely.

>> No.73441660

>>73441593
>because making EVERY humanoid army the same
They aren't.

>> No.73441669

>>73441651
>If you want the sideways charges to go away, you need to define sides and movements more precisely.
That's the point. Removing rank and file was a big mistake. It only has downsides.

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>>73441624
>This is your brain on 2020
Yes it wouldnt be an araby style model, it would be a germanic model painted black for the sake of faggotry, instead of them getting their own full proper army and release.
I am FOR more armies and each of those armies being "the africa army" or the "spain" army as they would be from different realms and be DIFFERENT.
I am not for every army being the same other than the hat and uniform they have on. Thats boring and lame.

>> No.73441693

>>73441674
AoS isn't whfb.
Go away Archwarhammer, play some Total War

>> No.73441694

>>73441669
It makes modelling easier and more open. Also it triggers people like you. It seems like a win win to me. Besides, you don't need rank and file formation for models to have facing

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>>73441540
Wood elves were always the worst elves, but this is even worse.
>We need them to be AoSified. What can we do?
>Woodelf beastmen only smaller and skinnier than real beastmen
In b4 old good, new bad meme

>> No.73441701

>>73441674
>I am FOR more armies and each of those armies being "the africa army" or the "spain" army as they would be from different realms and be DIFFERENT.
Even if I'd love that they released models for freegild regiments inspired by different cultures like they did with the imperial guard in 40k, I doub it's going to happen. In the meantime, there's absolutely no reason why a city can't have azyrite fashion while having features of different ethnicities because they aren't linked to specific cultures in AoS.

>> No.73441708

>>73441693
Yes it is, the LRL book says Eltharion is a suit of armor because hes still fucked up from a spell cast in WHF.
AoS is the next chapter of WHF. Deal with it zoomie.

>> No.73441712

>>73441694
>It makes modelling easier and more open.
But it doesn't.
> Besides, you don't need rank and file formation for models to have facing
No, but it's a lot easier.

>> No.73441714

>>73441674
I'm not racist but...

>> No.73441722

>>73441712
>But it doesn't.
Yes it does. It means you don't need models fitting in the confines of each other.

>> No.73441725

>>73441701
>Dwarves are in the Elven Phoenicium in CoS
Yes they can lazily justify this shit with their fluff but its still lazy and nobody does it

>> No.73441726

>>73441708
There's no reason FG would be white. There's less reason Stormcast would be. Cope you pathetic racist. I'd say you will not be missed but it's not like you even own any models.

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>>73441714
I am racist. So what? Theres nothing wrong with it because everyone is.
Go ask an indian what they think of a pakistani or ask a korean what they think of a chinese person.
Fuck off SJW white boy. Whites hate you and blacks will never accept you now matter how much you post black squares on your instagram

>> No.73441744

>>73441725
Since the first core book Dispossession have been the masons of the free city. Four years or older fluff.

>> No.73441747

>>73441726
>There's no reason FG would be white
Sigmar is white.
Checkmate fagget

>> No.73441748

>>73441722
That still needs to happen, or you get shit like bladegheist revenants and now the lumineth wardens that can't even go into base to base contact with other models because they overhang so much.

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opinions??

>> No.73441761
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>made from dryad bits
>>73441741
Your ancestors must be so proud you little troglodyte.

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>>73441744
>old fluff is good fluff
Its shit. Elves can be masons and they have a different style than dwarves.
Elves build spires and tall towers. Dwarves build mountain holds and bridges. Look at their AoS artwork.

>>73441714
>He's not racist
Oh geeze here we go again!

>> No.73441766

Why do Grognaks still attack people for liking AoS.

>> No.73441768

>>73441747
So? CoS contains paint scheme for dark skinned FG
Checkmate poltard

>> No.73441774

So what is gw building torwards with malekith/morathi and sigmar? Are they going to pull a nagash and fuck off or something else?

>> No.73441775

>>73441759
They should have been separate models that get extra rules if they are next to each other. I hate diorama ceterpieces.

>> No.73441781

>>73441540
Hopefully some time next year they'll be a tome with Sylvaneth, Wanderers, and a batch of Kurnothi units.

>>73441698
>Who is Orion

>> No.73441783

>>73441748
Just turn them.
Facing doesn't matter so the models can go wider now.

>> No.73441786

>>73441762
Elves aren't the masons of Free Cities, lorelet. Dispossessed made the Free Cities and maintain them. It's always been that way.

>> No.73441790

>>73441783
Oh, yeah, I'll turn them. Now they get stuck with eachother instead of with the enemy models, fantastic!

>> No.73441792

>>73439032
Holy Shit Man,
i`d never though i would get a Dot.hack//Enemy vibe here. I miss that card game a little bit :(

>> No.73441797

>>73441781
>>Who is Orion
A god and not a half elf core/battleline unit.

>> No.73441838

And he started posting off-topic tweets because he's out of arguments. Every fucking time.

>> No.73441866

>>73441797
>Orion
>A god
Lorelet levels are off the charts.

>> No.73441874

>>73441838
The kid's just in a bad place. Obese, virgin and no one takes his autistic ranting seriously

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>>73441797
This is the future faggot. Take it or leave it

>> No.73441898

>>73441874
post physique

>> No.73441930

>>73441874
It's kind of tragic. He treats this more seriously than other people treat their jobs. Like clockwork, every Sunday at 9 am European time he boots up his computer and turns on his phone and starts flooding /tg/ with shitposts. The mods hate AoS so they would never delete his shit and if ajanny gets tired of his shit and takes out the trash he bawls about the mean old janny discriminating against him.
I wish he would at least explain why he does that. It clearly can't be a genuine political opinion because he'll shitpost about lore and rule loopholes and model design as well, whatever gets him the most (You)s.

>> No.73441935

>>73441790
Just turn them so they don't.

How do you even function?

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>>73441898
Why yes, I do believe you are an enormous faggot and should be neutered for the betterment of mankind, how could you tell?

>> No.73441951

>>73441571
What if Vince is playing the long con by normalizing "Chamon" armies until it becomes widely accepted and exposing AoS for how retarded it is.
HE HAS FOOLED US ALL

>> No.73441969

>>73441935
Anon I'm telling you that you can't because they overhang from their bases in a dozen places. I tell you this because the argument of "round bases allow for more space" is complete and utter bullshit. Bigger bases offer more space. Even if you use rounds, you need to stay within the permineter of the base or else you get unplayable models that get stuck every time.

>> No.73442019

Wish there was a blank template to test lumineth schemes. I can't fucking decide.

>> No.73442087

>>73438617
August-September most likely.

>> No.73442098

>>73441761
Prouder of him than yours are of you probably.

>> No.73442109

>>73437449
Nah I'm classifying them as Neutral-Good in the case they're in the situation that they're in due to no fault of their own and what they do is purely out of necessity.

>>73437490
DoK think what they're doing is helping them defeat Chaos (Slaanesh specifically) by powering up Khaine.. They're doing bad stuff (sacrificing etc) in the hopes of eventually helping everybody against Chaos. They just enjoy it a bit too much and aren't aware Morathi is doing shady shit.

>> No.73442110
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If the unmodified hit roll for an atrack made with a melee weapon that tatgets a friendly MUNIFISCENT WANDERERS DAEMON unit within 12" of this general is 6, the attacking unit suffers 1 mortal wound agter all of its attacks have been resolved.

Is this 1 mortal wound for every single 6 on all melee profiles?

>> No.73442118
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Now that we know the rules will you use Moo monsters and moo warriors? Or would you stick with classical models in Lumineth?

>> No.73442126

>>73442110
Yes. They get hurt if they attack your units.

>> No.73442137

>>73442118
I might use the stoneguard after I convert their helmets to have plumes instead of cows. My plan was blocks of pikes supported by archers are ballistas and lead by a lord and some mages, but they didn't get artiller or lords, so I don't really know.

>> No.73442139

>>73442118
>are you gonna ignore 50% of your handful of models?
No

>> No.73442140

>>73442098
K internet warrior

>> No.73442141

>>73442118
Ill take a stonemage, behemoth and maybe 10...I just noticed...yes ill take all of them.

>> No.73442148

>>73442118
>choosing a ten warscroll faction and deliberately ignoring five warscrolls
You could simply admit you don't like the army and play something else

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>>73442118
If some faggot tell me he will not use this absolute chad i will spit in the face of such fake elf fan.

>> No.73442161

>>73442118
I refuse to indulge Teclis’ bull fetish. If it’s got cow horns or, worse still, a cow face, I refuse to use it.

>> No.73442167

>>73441969
>round bases allow for more space
That was not my argument at all. We were talking about rank and file. Round base argument is your fabrication

>> No.73442168

>>73442160
If I wanted Minotaurs, I’d play beastmen.

>> No.73442170

>>73442161
Teclis model is worse than the Moos.
Not even gonna buy him.

>> No.73442173

>>73442160
The generic spirit of the mountain looks a lot better.

>> No.73442178

>>73442148
I like the army, but the actual high elves not the strange trash with hammers and horns. They promised spiky elfs not cow elfs.

>> No.73442185

>>73442167
Then it makes even less sense because rank and file and the current system have no difference in space. You still need to put models next to each other to attack.

>> No.73442205

>>73441766
They're not grognards. They're TWWH secondaries who are mad that a setting they 'were totally a fan of' (which they only discovered since the game came out) was 'cruelly and evilly destroyed and they'd totally have bought 10,000 points worth of armies had they not been cruelly removed!' so they take it out of people who have moved on.

I still like WHFB, I'd still play it if other people played it locally; I won't rebase by army. I'm happy to follow AoS; WHFB is still there. It's just the past of this setting. I can enjoy the books and models and art and nobody can stop me. I can enjoy AoS too.

>>73441759
What's there to say? Incredibly powerful since every unit has a mage in it, so that +1 to casting is delicious. It can automatically dispel endless spells, so fuck you Seraphon and it can automatically unbind one enemy spell, so, get fucked literally everybody. The 4+ magic protection ability is insane. 18" 5+++ bubble is also insane, especially when you just autocast it lol. D6 mortal wound spell (also autocast, also 18") on a 5+ is obviously powerful. D6 melee attack on 2+/2+/-3. 6 3+/3+/-2/2 melee claw attacks. Can fly. 4+ save. Same amount of wounds as a Oldblood on Carnosaur. 12" movement so good luck pinning him with fly.

tl;dr incredibly powerful and just mogs every other spell user in the game. If Nagash didn't have summon spells galore, would be even better (tho Nagash is nearly twice the price). So called 'masters of magic' Slann are just hilariously bad. Kroak needs to roll a D6 to even WOUND with his spells, assuming he even manages to cast them lmao. Teclis just laughs and dispels his first one, then does D3 wounds back to him when rolling a 4+.

>> No.73442206

>>73442118
I still wonder why Lumineth don't have balistas or dragons but, yes you can't ignore half of your army.

>> No.73442216

>>73442185
You can rotate currently. You can't rotate a square without overlapping

>> No.73442221

I love all the TWWH babbys crying about muh hammers muh cows. Perhaps you faggots should have bought and played High Elves back in WHFB and perhaps this wouldn't have happened?
>b-b-b-but GW didn't just make my TWWHirinho modelrinos! Where are my h*ckin' good boye dragonerinos :(( i don't like differentirino things! i just want the sameirino like my gamerino!

>> No.73442225

>>73442205
660x2 is not 880

>> No.73442230

>>73442126
Seems awfully strong, last battle my friend threw 6 6s out of 18 attacks into my witherstave aura'd plaguebearers

>> No.73442236

>>73442206
>Lumineth don't have balistas or dragons
Because GW needs something to expand into? Because GW doing 'High Elves' again is fucking pointless? Because it would have been 'worse' to do not!HE and then drop cows in? Because this isn't WHFB?

>> No.73442246

What's the funnest way to play death?

>> No.73442247

>>73442216
For fucks sake, I already told you rotating doesn't matter if the model overhangs. It's just gonna get stuck into something else.

>> No.73442250

>>73442225
1. I said nearly
2. He used to be 1000pts

>> No.73442264

>>73442236
>Because GW needs something to expand into?
Sure, the cows could have been an expansion. Seems wierd that they wouldn't give people what they want and risk the army not selling.
>Because GW doing 'High Elves' again is fucking pointless?
Not really. You know what is pointless? A fourth spin on classic elves.

>> No.73442266

>>73442247
So it's got nothing to do with square or circle bases but you brought it up for some reason

>> No.73442270

>>73442250
He used to be 820 or something (860?).
When was he ever 1k in AoS?

>> No.73442284

>>73442246
Only ghost. They are all funny people, just look at Kurnot

>> No.73442303

Please for fuck sake give me a moment in the lore where nagash and teclis fight. I would fucking love for the skelepope to dunk on that elf faggot.

>> No.73442312

>>73442266
>removing rank and file means modelling is more open and easuer
>it doesn't because models still need to fit in their base and not overhang, lest they become unplayable
>It means you don't need models fitting in the confines of each other.
>You still need to do that because you have to be in contact to fight in melee
>just turn them
>you can't because they still overhang
At least follow the conversation. I only brought square bases up because it's the only reason why you would even think that it offers more space, which is still not true.

>> No.73442316

>>73442303
Nah dude, Teclis will shit on Nagash to transition from the necroquake to the elfen supremacy arc.

>> No.73442319

>>73442264
Yes, it is pointless. Just releasing High Elves again in AoS would be utterly pointless, yes. These are not High Elves. They are something else. Cows being first is to show they aren't just High Elves.
>risk the army not selling
You're delusional if you don't think they'll sell.
>give people what they want
Again, TWWH players didn't support WHFB when it was alive, they wouldn't support it now. LRL are not High Elves. Therefore doing High Elves again from the get go would make grogs like me go 'What was the point?'. Because bar the dragons (inb4 muh metal iconic dragons) there was nothing to update. GW did the right thing by doing something different. Something new. Otherwise there was no point.

>> No.73442328

>>73442303
Teclis and his pet will fuck Nagash again and again

>> No.73442336

>>73442270
Right at the start he was 1000pts iirc. Or maybe I'm confusing his WHFB points.

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>>73442319
Then when we will see Sphinxes as behemoths? Is a shame have such beautiful model trapped into an heroic/diorama shit

>> No.73442340

>>73438327
They want to help you. Spare yourself the poison. Do not play warcry.

>> No.73442354

>>73440259
Based on how bad the faces are, probably GW.
NOTHING looks worse than Old GW trying to sculpt an attractive woman.

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>>73442339
Am I going to need an entire crate to carry that fucking monstrosity of a model? Fucking christ.

>> No.73442357

>>73442270
Nagash was 900 as of the first GHB, which added points to the game afaik and is the most expensive I think he's ever been.

>> No.73442362
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>tfw Teclis rapes Nagash’s skelly ass with his superior mastery of magic

>> No.73442368

>>73442339
>could have had Spinx temple instead of cows

>> No.73442370

>>73442339
Honestly I would have Teclis hovering just above the ground. As for Sphinxes as behemoths? Maybe. I've said before, I'll say again.

Water - Swordmasters and quasi-Deepkin style magic
Wind - Artillery and chariots
Zenith (sky) - Dragons and other flying creatures (perhaps skyking aeagles)

>> No.73442374

>>73442319
>You're delusional if you don't think they'll sell.
We don't know that yet. All I know is that risking alienating your target demographic isn't exactly a smart move. I still see pretty much everyone disliking the cow units.
> Just releasing High Elves again in AoS would be utterly pointless
Would it? They killed all elves and gave people stupid spins of them. Not one, but 3. People asked a million times for proper elves to come back becuse, suprise, you don't need to kill the original to make variants. I don't think it would be pointless at all.
>These are not High Elves. They are something else.
Do you even think this is an argument? I know they are something else. They shouldn't. That's the point.

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>>73442362
>Superior
>Can't unweave a curse done by fucking arkhan the black on eltharion
Cheers queer.

>> No.73442378

>>73442362
lol only Chaos gets to cuck Death

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>>73442362
>Superior
>Arkhan second in command fucked "his superior magic" ultra hard

Keep sucking our bonepenis aelfs fuckers

>> No.73442400
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>>73442375
>implying he wasn’t just fucking around to keep things interesting

>> No.73442410

>>73442312
Units don't need to be base to base within its unit unlike before, that's why there's more space for not going rank and file blocks

>> No.73442422

>>73442410
They do if you want to fight in melee. Dude, seriously, learn to read.

>> No.73442427

>>73437195
> The violence has escalated.

>> No.73442431

>>73442422
Half inch for a succesfull charge.
Feel free to read the rules.

>> No.73442434

>>73442374
>alienating your target demographic isn't exactly a smart move
Except they didn't. They're not trying to sell not!High Elves, because these are not!High Elves. If you want to play not!High Elves, play Phoenix Temple.
>People asked a million times for proper elves to come back becuse, suprise, you don't need to kill the original to make variants
It would be pointless because at that point, AoS has no new factions bar Stormcast. WHFB did not sell; this is undeniable. Therefore GW had to change something. AoS being a new place calls for new things otherwise you're just going 'yeah same old shit but in a different place' where people will go 'well what's the point?'. Except this was done because WHFB didn't sell; so going 'well w-w-we just want our hgih elverinos back' is dumb because guess what - they didn't save WHFB. Again, TWWH players wanting 'based aryan high elves' don't go out and buy armies.
>They shouldn't. That's the point.
And as I said, if people bought and supported WHFB and got into the setting BEFORE video games came out and it was dead; perhaps it wouldn't have been outsold by fucking X-Wing and Warmahordes. I've got hundreds of WHFB models and dozens of books and even more stuff I got rid of. I did my best to keep something alive. People being sad a thing is gone when they could have supported thing is dumb.

They're different, as I said, because doing the same would be dumb. GW will be releasing, most likely, at least 10 new kits for LRL over the coming years. It could even be more. People are, once again, coming into a hobby where each faction had dozens of models predone and thinking that's how all new factions start. That's not how it works.

Alternatively; GW wants to keep LRL separate from ToW HE's.

>> No.73442446

>>73442303
I'd rather Tyrion and Alarielle fight Nagash considering he killed their child

>> No.73442451
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Anyone have good ideas for how I can fix these ugly Peggy Hill stompers? The warscroll is good and it’s very helpful to get to fire off Aetherquartz reserves without the bravery drawback

>> No.73442455

>>73442431
Successful charge. Then you need to pile and and you want to go into base to base contact to maximize the number of models in range. For the love of god, anon, stop being this dumb.

>> No.73442456

>why aren't my elfirinos just the same as my vidya?
>:( why doesn't GW listen to ME? I mean I didn't buy any books, novels, paint, glue, tools, scenery or models... but I am a valuable customer because I bought video games!!! What's Dark Omen or Shadow of the Horned Rat? Sorry, I'm not a BOOMER.

>> No.73442460
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>>73442370
>Water - Swordmasters
They’re called Loreseekers and they do Tyronic and Teclian

>> No.73442465

>>73442451
Cut them off, attach the cloak to the rock. It'll look like the robe is covering her feet.

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>>73442451
Paint them purple

>> No.73442470

>>73442451
>cut cup hand
>add dagger
>cut head
>use a different elf head
Done.

>> No.73442476

>>73442465
That was my first thought, I’m just a little worried about the feet sticking out the back on the sculpt leading to an obvious gap behind the model when you clip them off

>> No.73442477

>>73442460
Yeah, thanks. I've not read the book. But there we go.

>> No.73442479

>>73442470
>>cut head
The veil is awesome and she has a bitching braid

>> No.73442487

>>73441759
Somehow the biggest fuckup in The Old World has become a super-ultra-mega-Wizard. Apparently spending all day sucking bull cock does a body good.

>> No.73442488

>>73442455
You ever play with tanks in 40k? If you cant touch the base, touching the models is enough.
EZ clap.

>> No.73442494

>>73442479
It also doesn’t fix her giant hobbit feet

>> No.73442496

>>73442370
>Wind - Artillery and chariots
The tome talks about them and they are part of the vanari armies, not of the temples. Only thing we know about the wind temple is that they have wierd archers. Mention of foxes.
>Dragons and other flying creatures (perhaps skyking aeagles)
The book talks about translocation magic and the zenith warriors becoming ethereal angels. Nothing about dragons or any creatures. Phoenixes and dragons seem to be more of a tyionic thing.

>> No.73442501

>>73442370
The battletome already mentions warriors of the other 3 temples.

River: swift, dexterous fighters and some form of water spirit behemoth

Wind: "cloud-riding mages", Archers on "long-limbed riding beasts, a bow wielding fox-faced sky spirit.

Zenith: warriors can turn into "angelic beings of light"

>> No.73442508

>>73442488
Except infantry aren't tanks and they overhang a fucking lot. Melee in 40k also works differently, as it doesn't have the retarded range stat.

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>>73442501
>a bow wielding fox-faced sky spirit.
This better be the next temple

>> No.73442546

>4 skaven clans vs 4 lumineth temples box

Would you /alsg/?

>> No.73442570

>>73442221
Look, even big fans of the AoS aesthetic such as myself admit that the hammers look bad (elves with hammers is a good idea, but the sculpts look dumb) and all the bull stuff looks both really stupid and really Chaotic.
They shoulda just released the Malekith designs they’ve been sitting on for years instead of rushing out an army for The Fail Brothers.

>> No.73442584

>>73442546
Depends. If the other 3 temples end up being as stupid and with as bad of a theme as the mountain temple, then no.

>> No.73442588

>>73442236
They didn’t need either. They just needed a schtick that wasn’t fucking bulls.

>> No.73442598

>>73442236
Imagine thinking that because you prefer a dragon over a fucking cow you want WHFB back.

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Just a friendly reminder Malkeith is no more, Morathi is your only choice now.

>> No.73442611

>>73442362
>most incompetent loser in WFB defeats literal god
Keep dreaming.

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I have this sorcerer lord I want to paint in my undivided scheme so I can use whatever mark I feel at the moment, but what colours would fit undivided for the snake part? This one looks too tzeentchy.

>> No.73442615

>still hating on cows
Cows were pretty prominent in Greek mythos and bulls have always been representative of strength. The sculpts are bad but the theme isn't.

>> No.73442624
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I'm gonna ask only once

Where are the rules for the aelven Cults of Slaanesh?

>> No.73442626

>>73442451
Step 1 is remove the stupid “scenic base”

>> No.73442636

>>73442570
I like them so get bent, mr my subjective opinion is fact.

>> No.73442644

>>73442615
The theme is just stupid. The whole concept of mountain spirits bonding with a stone golem to fight alongside the elves is cool, but linking that to a yak is just ridiculous and shits all over it. The retarded stoneguard helmets are just the nail in the coffin.

>> No.73442645

>>73442624
Nowhere fag. Wait for Slaanesh mortals or use that gun to end yourself.

>> No.73442664

>>73442508
Just measure to the overhanging model

>> No.73442675

>>73442644
>but linking that to a yak is just ridiculous and shits all over it
I liked them at first but your stellar argumentation has changed my mind.

>> No.73442690

>>73442615
But cows in AoS are a chaotic aesthetic. Minotaurs are literally a kind of beastmen.

>> No.73442697

>>73442644
The elemental spirits are a good idea. I think the Alarith Spirits look great.

Only the Stoneguard needs a bit of work. GW should have just used the piece at the top as the full helmet, but thats an easy fix once GW releases them.

>> No.73442703

>>73442613
White and yellow?

>> No.73442772

In all seriousness, I think the trigger that resulted in CoS was their push to have "every army supported" by 2020. It was simply not possible for them to crank out enough new armies to fix the Order subfaction mess in time, so we got CoS.

If you look at the Order factions that had GHB rules prior to the big 2.0 tome push, It was Wanderers, Dispossessed, Darkling Covens, and Free Guild. (And Seraphon and Fyreslayers, who had old-ass tomes before allegiance abilities existed)

Even back a couple of years ago I always felt that High Elves had an axe hanging over their head, because they never got GHB rules, never got their shit reboxed for AoS and the Hysh Aelves lore hints were everywhere.

By comparison Wanderers, Dispossessed, and Darkling Covens were all pretty popular subfactions especially in early AoS that got almost fully reboxed near the start of AoS, and had GHB rules for years. They were everywhere in the lore and novels ect, too.

Empire was kind of an in-between, most people felt they would stick around and probably not get updated anytime soon but their range was really old and there was no telling how much of it would stay.

It's actually only in the last year or so that we've got indications of possible updated/replacement factions for Dispossessed and Wanderers, with the new Fyreslayer battletome and Beastgrave, respectively. We've only just started getting decent hints about Malerion also.

If you consider the long lead times, (3+ years) it's likely that GW has been working on new versions of most of these factions since a couple of years ago and we're just now getting glimpses of it. Keep in mind that the early AoS factions were in development while 8th edition WHFB was still around, and the Light Aelves/Shadow Aelves probably have been planned since near the beginning of AoS given how early we've been getting hints about them.

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>>73441547
>tfw someone saved your brentpost

>> No.73442802

>>73442790
Go away, commie. You're not welcome here anymore.

>> No.73442840

>>73442501
Then post it

>> No.73442892

As for the Lumineth, I don't know how retarded you have to be to think the Stoneguard in particular are a popular and well received design. The only people I see defending them are people who have no interest in the army to begin with, or people so dedicated to new High Elves that they've been able to cope themselves into "liking" them over the last couple of months.

The whole idea of "it's new, so it's automatically good and better than before" is just fucking cancer. You don't have to be a grog to hate some new things while liking others, or liking some old things better than new things.

The cherry on the cake though is the whole "These aren't high elves" bullshit excuse. MF it's literally just Tyrion and Teclis leading an army of new High Elves that references High Elves 11 billion times in the armybook and previews, only and except when somebody doesn't like a thing, then it's "They're totally different from High Elves, so having a stupid helmet is not only justified, but something you have to celebrate".

I'm not a grog. I own Fyreslayers, KO, Deepkin, Stormcast (gonna sell them) Seraphon, Ogor Mawtribes, and bits of pieces of other armies and CoS models. I'll criticize or praise any damn thing I want.

>> No.73442902

>>73442434
Have you read their lore? They're build on their framework with few different spins. In self-defeating manner the more GW and few new fags try to sell the idea that the LRL aren't high elves, the more will familiar themes stuck out. Yes, they're not High Elves in the same way AoS Eltharion/Teclis/Tyrion aren't characters from the world that was.

The internet drama is going to be bloody fantastic, if GW decides to add 'classical' high elf elements to the LRL range.

>> No.73442933

>>73442892
You have to be a retard to cry about not liking something consecutively for months though.

>> No.73442937

>>73442802
Cry more faggot

>> No.73442959

>>73442019
Just look up old high Elf schemes, they're close enough to give you an idea how the colours will behave on the model

>> No.73442968

Alright place your bets everyone, will we be ignored in this weekly announcement? Will it be all 40k again?

>> No.73442982

>>73442772
im more worried about the idoneths place when the shadow elves get released.

We know the Lumineth elf boys will be getting like 4-7 more minifactions, and considering the mess of how the dark elves were in wfb the aos Shadow Elves will probably be just as crazy.

But that leaves the Idoneth with its like 10 models on release with little lore except for a single book in like three years and clearly lacking a lot of roles and play styles other then either eel spam or thrall spam and none of the very little lore we've got has implied the existence of other stuff to come except for maybe giant Allopexs (from the novel) or Deepmare cavalry?

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>>73442802
I literally just come here to post crops of Brent's face and post models in /WIP/ I think you're mixing me up with someone else

>> No.73442997

>>73442690
And non-Wyvern lizards were explicitly an Order thing until the Karkadrak came out. Your point?

>> No.73443007

>>73442968
I wish they could just release Indomitus and get it the fuck over with. I want to know if there'll be any cute 12€ ETB kits coming out alongside it.

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>>73442997
Retard.

>> No.73443016

>>73442937
>no no you can't just talk about politics and warhammer!
>Brent releases 1 hour political rant
>based! based!
Piss off

>> No.73443032

Honestly, if they'd just been released already, most people would probably be over it. As it is there has been no other AoS news to talk about since fucking January, and who knows how much longer now.

If Sons of Behemet hadn't been a single kit/preview maybe they could have stolen some attention, but there's just nothing to talk about there.

>> No.73443036

>>73442892
You have the option to use Greek inspired helmets for everything but the big cows and honestly those are pretty good.

>> No.73443045

>>73443010
God how I want an updated version of that model.

>> No.73443057

>>73443010
CHAOS DRAGON WHEEEEEEEN?

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>>73440537
>>73441419
Why the fuck didnt they sculpt them with their spears in the air

>> No.73443072

Oh for sure there's easy fixes. I'm planning to just wait and see what other people come up with before deciding what I want to do with them. I'm only borderline interested in LRL to start with, if GW announced Kurnothi right now I wouldn't give LRL a second look at least until their first range update.

>> No.73443081
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>>73441573
>What's wrong with these, though?
I hate women and niggers.

>> No.73443098

>>73443016
>>73442937
>Literally starts off video saying that politics dont belong in warhammer, and that if people dont want to watch this videos its perfectly reasonable
>Still get upset

>> No.73443119

It's probably gonna be a while before Deepkin get any real attention, yeah.I know shortly after they came out the GW people on Stormcast were like..."Yeah I guess we could add something but for now they're done"

Given lead times on design, if they didn't have any plans to expand Deepkin, and there's no reason to think they do, it will be a long wait.

That said, any army that sticks around and stays popular long enough will get new models someday...if only so that GW can still make money off of them.

>> No.73443205

>>73443119
Next edition must be around the corner and now every army has its own battletome. I'd expect that once the new edition launched, they'll cycle through every army and give them a release alongside their eventual updated battletome, just like they've done for decades.

>> No.73443258

>>73443205
M8 everyone has terrain pieces and endless spells, we aren't getting many new models next edition. Look at the non space marine releases on 40k side for a realistic expectation of what to expect

>> No.73443315

>>73443068
they don't have spears, they have pikes

>> No.73443354

>>73443057
never, but a chaos draoegeon might be in the cards

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>>73441761
Way too cluttered. Would probably be a nightmare to prime with all the hollow bits

3/10 cool idea

>> No.73443369

>>73443057
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-US/Vorgaroth-the-Scarred-and-Skalok-the-Skull-Host-of-Khorne-2018?_requestid=5347155

>> No.73443371

>>73438094
Titanicus Ryza I’ll bet

>> No.73443380

>>73443258
>SoB
>Necrons
>Thousand Sons
>Death Guard
>Custodes
>CSM
>Knights
Yeah, that's what I expect, releases for each faction.

>> No.73443388

>>73443072
>gw saying anything about aos during 40k primetime

hahahahaahAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>> No.73443406

>>73443369
>all those battlerep faggots rushing out to get one
>made like 1 or 2 videos
>been gathering dust on their shelves ever since
kek

>> No.73443452

>>73443369
>Reasonably sized and priced chaos dragon when

I don't want to have to buy a childs car seat to transport my "miniature"

>> No.73443471

Like the other guy said, they've been rolling out huge updates/expansions lately. Sisters of Battle, Necrons, Genestealer Cults, Chaos Marines, ect.

Before that 40k was in a similar cycle to AoS, just cranking out books with the odd model or faction update here and there. Hell they did it twice with a battletome push and then Psychic Awakening.

>> No.73443520

>>73443406
idk a handful of people have taken him to major tournaments and done fine with this big boy

if you want a giant dragon there's no better model desu

>> No.73443582
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>>73443452
>I want a big dragon, not tHAT big though

I swear to fucking god, GW could force Becca Scott to fellate everyone who has ever bought warhammer ever and the community would complain that it wasn't their anime waifu they were having sex with

>> No.73443628

>>73443471
In 5 years aos has had on average 50 major book releases, most of those incorporated new models in some regard, and this isn't counting warcry or underworlds which both have had shitloads of terrain and models related to AOS, that's an average of 2 months out of each year where AOS doesn't have something huge coming out. That's fucking insane, fantasy would get about one or two armybooks a year.

>> No.73443634

>>73443582
I know I wouldn't complain. But anon, he's obviously looking for something like the old lord on chaos dragon. Not Archaon, not a massive 900€ khornate dragon.

>> No.73443636

>>73443582
God I'm glad they stopped doing those fake videos with that thot

>> No.73443644

>>73443636
Don't worry, I'm sure she's been hired to teach 40k 9th edition

>> No.73443646

>>73442892
>"it's new, so it's automatically good and better than before"
yes

classics exist for a reason

>> No.73443671

>>73442892
The only people insulting the stone guard have no interest in the army to begin with, they want their shit high elf models that were made before the 90s

There's a reason why we're /asog/ and not /wfg/

>> No.73443716

>>73443671
Amazing. Everything you wrote is wrong.

>> No.73443736

>>73443716
>high elf fags aren't fags crying about their high elf spearmen being obsolete

ok fag lol

>> No.73443778

>>73443010
>literally the metal HElf Dragon with a Chaos Lord plonked on top
You sure showed me.

>> No.73443820

To whomever was the anon that said months ago that there's no night in Hysh and no day in Ulgu, you are wrong.

>> No.73443844

>>73443820
Hardly his fault considering Hysh is literally the sun in the setting.

>> No.73443880

>>73443844
I know, but the tome now explains how it works.

>> No.73443925

Yeah, no, that's actually retarded and has no basis in fact whatsoever.

If you had any self-awareness or reading comprehension you would know that shit loads of people were excited about Lumineth even before they were announced, and that the new spearmen models are among the most liked things in the range.

You also clearly don't know even one person who actually liked High Elves, because nobody who isn't just an obvious troll gives a shit about the old spearmen. The Spireguard, yes, those were cool models. White Lions and Swordmasters are a bit dated but quite well liked models. Phoenix Temple, always popular.

The only thing in the Lumineth range I see drawing heavy criticism is Teclis, mostly because the model composition is goofy, and the Mountain Temple generally/Stoneguard specifically.

The fact that you've read those arguments thousands of times and all you got out of it was "spearmen" lol, is a testament only to your incurable stupidity.

>> No.73443932

>>73443880
do we have the pdf yet

>> No.73443957

>>73443932
No, but some kind anon posted pics of the whole book yesterday. I read through the entire lore, so if you just want to know something specific, just ask.

>> No.73444015

>>73443932
There was no release of epub - so no. We do not have pdf yet. We will have pdf one~two weeks after official release.

>> No.73444028

>>73443957
to what extent are other races present in hysh?

also, is there any info on ulgu in there?

>> No.73444047

>>73443932
>>73444015
Imagine ripping apart your limited edition battletome for a scan, after a bunch of fags have been making fun of boxbuyers for a week.
Lets face it, you just arent worth it.

>> No.73444072

>>73441759
Would have been OP in another army. As it is now the army is too much expensive in points to afford him. It's also very fragile for his cost considering taking him means not having the points to both screen him well and also have units that do things. You absolutely need battalions also because if the enemy get to go first before you cast the aura of fnp you are going to lose half your army, which reduces even more the number of units you can take.

Tldr
very powerful but as the Lumineth are now they can't afford it

>> No.73444084

>>73444028
>to what extent are other races present in hysh?
Sigmar brought some when he met Tyrion and Teclis and the Tempest Lords have come to Hysh chasing some slaaneshi, but not much else. I assume there's barely anyone other than elves. Some dwarfs (as in classic dwarfs) do go to one of the great nations to participate in an artisan convention.
>also, is there any info on ulgu in there?
Not much other than things we already knew and the way night and day works between the realms. There's mention of shadow daemons pressumably under the control of Malerion.

>> No.73444227

wow guys
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/06/28/sunday-preview-the-sons-arise/

>> No.73444233

>>73444227
There's still 5 minutes left, retard.

>> No.73444251

>>73444233
It's actually up already, early

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/06/28/sunday-preview-calling-all-generals/

>> No.73444276

>>73444251
>rules to create your own bespoke heroes, and complete rulesets for multiplayer gaming.
Well, that's pretty cool, not gonna lie.

>> No.73444321
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Olynder book.

>> No.73444326
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>>73444251
>we want that suicide squad audience

>> No.73444339

>>73441618
This little guy is litteraly the most exciting rumour engine I ever saw in my life

>> No.73444340

>>73444326
Anon it's necromunda.

>> No.73444346

>>73444326
fucking newfag

>> No.73444355

It is, but execution of cool ideas in past GHBs leaves a little to be desired. Still, they had to come up with something to fill the book now that GHB allegiance abilities aren't a thing anymore. Hopefully it's good stuff.

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>>73437195
I thought Bonereapers were pure cringe, but they look nice when they're painted like actual skeletons.

>> No.73444369

>>73444355
I really really hope they still have allegiance abilities for freeguild, wanderers, dispossessed and darkling covens. If only to keep them alive until they get their own book.

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>>73444326
what are you fucking retarded

>> No.73444405

>>73444321
A romcom about her and Kurdoss learning to love eachother after Nagash married them ageinst their will

>> No.73444415

>>73441565
Wood Elves are great. I'm considering painting mine red.

>> No.73444424

>>73444369
>until they get their own book
GW may think those factions now have their own book in CoS. Not saying I agree with it, but I could see them thinking that way.

>> No.73444432

>>73444340
>>73444346
>>73444404
Point out a single piece of classic Necromunda artwork with that aesthetic.

>> No.73444437

>>73444276
I wonder how it will compare to 40k’s build a character.

>> No.73444447

>>73443636
>HEY GUYS ITS PLASTIC SMILE WOMAN HERE TO TEACH YOU HOW TO PLASTIC TOY GAME

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>>73444432

>> No.73444463
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>>73444432
Have you never seen Eschers before?

>> No.73444470

>>73444462
>>73444463
>I'm blind lol
Yeah about what I expected

>> No.73444475

>>73444437
How was theirs? I never bothered to look at chapter approved since I don't play.

>> No.73444477

>>73437818
It looks rather like a full on gutplate of the ogres.

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>>73444432
get the fuck out of here, dipshit

>> No.73444483

GHB comin in hot

>> No.73444495

>>73444479
>anything vaguely punk related is the same lol
>no, I don't understand or make differentiation between aesthetics why do you ask?

>> No.73444513

>>73444368
I’m split on them. They have some great models, but some are so overdesigned it’s hard to tell wtf is going on. Still Katakros is one of my favorite models released in AoS.

>> No.73444522

>>73444475
It’s pretty in depth. But basically you take a unnamed HQ character model and then depending on the type of hero, you choose 4,6, or 8 additional traits ranging from +1 to any stat of choice, several traits like Ignoring cover, -1 to hit, and a bullshit one that prevents wounds on anything 3 or under. There’s also enhancements to their weapons like +1 attack, strength, AP, range, etc.

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>>73444495
You're not worth arguing with

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Hmm...

>> No.73444536

>>73444522
That's cool. Just wish AoS had the same amount of options for their generic heroes as 40k does.

>> No.73444552

>>73444535
Anon explain, what's this supposed to be?

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>>73444535
Hmmmmmmmmmmm...

>> No.73444557

>>73444326
Yeah, it's a punk aesthetic from a British company. Crazy.

>> No.73444568

>>73444535
>>73444554
ANON WHY ARE YOU POSTING OLD WOOD ELF ART WITH A PINK FILTER? WHAT'S GOING ON?

>> No.73444571

>>73444557
>>73444432
Don't embarrass yourself like the others.

>> No.73444573

>>73444568
I'M TRYING TO MAKE IT RED BUT IT AIN'T; WORKING

>> No.73444574

>>73444495
Thats art of the exact same character ( Mad Donna) as the book, you stupid fucking cunt.

Stop being a dumb lorelet nigger, and kill yourself.

>> No.73444619

>>73444574
stop feeding he was never arguing in good faith

>> No.73444632

>>73444326
Dumb cunt.

>> No.73444634

>>73444495
oh you've resorted to greentext? thanks for admitting you're wrong

>> No.73444645

>>73444619
I'm not the one unable to tell apart completely different things.

>> No.73444661

>>73444645
bait

>> No.73444664

Can we just talk about WArhammer again?

>> No.73444665

>>73444326
I like the Marie Antoinette look. I can't fucking stand the early 90s Hair Metal look that Necromunda used to have

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how do we fix them, lads?

>> No.73444690

IRONBREAKERS 80PTS AND 220 FOR 30 HOLY SHIT

>> No.73444691

>>73442645
Slaanesh mortals vs Vampire Coast would be a neat box.

>> No.73444700

>>73444682
Make them good at melee, for one.

>> No.73444713

>>73444690
This is why I gave up on dark elves. Fuck hordes and fuck CoS

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>>73444700
but how? 2 attacks? not hitting on 4+? not costing over 100 points?

>> No.73444726

>>73444571
Oh, no worried. I think you are embarrassing yourself enough for everyone's behalf.

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>>73444713
tfw just bought 20x glave guard for my wood elf CoS

>> No.73444742

>>73444645
yawn

>> No.73444754
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Even GW cant afford the new flesh hounds

>> No.73444758

>>73444726
You guys still haven't been able to provide a single image with the same aesthetic. You sure act smug while seething.

>> No.73444761

>>73443582
It's fucking huge though. I'd repose it and magnetise that on top of it. GW abandoned the idea of game pieces at that point.

>> No.73444763

>>73444725
Everything that isn't bloodreavers should hit on 3+ and wound on 3+. Then they should go unit by unit giving them special rules to give each unit a specific purpose mantaining internal balance.

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>> No.73444782

>>73444734
The ones you can't use?

>> No.73444783

>>73444682
If your army includes only Khorne daemons you dont lose all your bloodtithe when spending 1pt

>> No.73444792

>>73444768
Can we please ditch the realmsphere magic nonsense completely and go back to the generic spell lores like soulbound does?

>> No.73444793

>>73444782
Why can't I use 'em?

>> No.73444805

>>73444768
Malign sorcery rewrite?

>> No.73444815

>>73444793
oh I wrote glave, but meant eternal. whoops.

>> No.73444822

>>73438051
>how good are on foot ogres in general?
Gluttons are fine but if they face good save or armies with lots of rend they lose their oomph real quick. They scale up with buffs so if you're running a list thats relying on bluffing them do max units and not min. Ironguts will straight up fuck shit up but make sure you got something to eat some attacks infront of them until they can get in and do ironguts stuff. They are very expensive units but they pay off dividends when invested into with butcher and slaughter buffs. Just yesterday I had 4 of them take a carnosaur off the table in one attack thanks to blood feast.
>how are Hunters? Sabertusks?
Cheap objective holders or if you want to sneak in a second artefact for cheap using their battalion. Not bad but their value comes from things other than their ability to take models off the board.
>what are essential units for a good list?
Stonehorns unless they get dicked in ghb20 (which I think is likely the frostlord variant goes up in price). At least one Frostlord, and probably a second huskard/stonehorn beastriders. Any more than 2 and you'll want to do Boulderhead which power wise boulderhead is a gatekeeper army comp. If you run many foot soldiers then get a butcher or two. Lots of value there.
>what are trap options that lead to garbage lists? Dont listen to the Gnoblar haters. If you run a shooting army you need to commit to it 100% to be succesful and part of that is having a wall of gnoblars to soak up T1 damage. The only trap units in the ogre book are Gorgers & Maneaters.(until they get a point drop that merits them being taken). Even thundertusks have a use despite their bread and butter ability being big time nerfed with the ogre tome.
>besides the core rule download and the battle tome, what other stuff must I have for play?

Just those two, maybe malign sorcery but you could also find out the relic, weapon, and spell rules for that online.

>> No.73444840

>>73444682
Range 2" on blades.

>> No.73444850

Aww yeah another ghb with narrative rules. Really, the game would be in a better state if they just approved these sorts of things generally. Why expand the game when 90% of players are matched play faggots who hate any kind of homebrew?

>> No.73444851

>>73444763
i think mighty lords of khorne arent enough of a beatstick. they should have a rework of their axe to do mortal wounds when hitting.

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When

>> No.73444879
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Unironically a good image of Chamon FG

>> No.73444880

Range as a whole should be reworked. Make it work like 40k/MESBG. A model can attack if:
>It's in base to base contact with an enemy model
>It's in base to base contact with a model that that meets the previous condition
>Range 2 weapons add another row
>Range 3 weapons add two rows

>> No.73444899

>>73444758
Okay

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soon

>> No.73444906

>>73444840
Actually that would fix them really well

>> No.73444937

>>73444880
Maybe add a rule
>model can measure melee range from itself or from a same unit model it is in b2b with
To mirror how unit doesn't block los to itself.

>> No.73444941

>>73444768
Someone posted it good...

So all those wicked conversions/ideas based on an artefact that made you fly are kinda fucked now, for matched play.

Bye bye to some fun and unique ideas, cause GW can’t have that..

>> No.73444992

>>73444276
So narrative game stuff that will never be legal in Matched and therefore might as well not exist. Yay.

>> No.73445009 [DELETED] 

>>73444903
That is a brave blurb to release in a time when Twitter is ablaze with people offended by Orcs being compared to black people.

>> No.73445018

>>73444992
So play narrative games. They are a blast.

>> No.73445039

>>73445009
Warhammer orcs are english workingclass hooligans, nobody will have any problems with that.

>> No.73445057

>>73445018
I would if I had a group and wasn't forced to play at the Warhammer (tm) Store where, if you show up with a lovingly modeled unit of Dragon Warriors Chaos Space Marines and ask if you can use that Heavy Flamer you modeled as a Heavy Flamer if you pay the correct points even if the datasheet doesn't allow you to take a Heavy Flamer, they'll tell you to take your cheating ass elsewhere.

>> No.73445086

>>73445057
Well, that's sad. I'd suggest trying to run a narrative, map based campaign. Try to build a community of narrative players.

>> No.73445124

>>73445086
In fact, with 3d printers you can now make your own mighty empires tiles and with the character creation rules they are making, you can make your own characters to lead your armies in the campaign. I think it'd be a ton of fun.

>> No.73445137

>>73439640
>Implying you wouldn't ride to battle on your giant War Platypus that can poison your enemies and shit egg artillery

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GHB predictions?
I'm gonna throw it out there that the Greenskinz Warboss goes down to 110 or something. As weird as that sounds, the warscroll was changed for Warclans and it's common enough in lists.

>> No.73445153

>>73444941
>Bye bye to some fun and unique ideas, cause GW can’t have that..

GW has no fault if you and your friends can't play in Narrative.

>> No.73445201

>>73445039
Outrage mobs are not fans. They wont know that.

>> No.73445227

Are fyreslayers fun? I feel like I could belt out a table top ready army in about a month if I wanted, but god damn they only have like 5 units.

>> No.73445236

Are Darkling Coven units good in DoK? If so, which unit is best?

>> No.73445286

>>73445227
Yup, lots of lodges, combos and such. The battalions could be better but with the wd supplement you have a few extra

>> No.73445297

>>73445286
Speaking of which, I bet they're not in the next ghb. Farewell fun Ironjawz

>> No.73445305

>>73444754
Nor can they afford more than 30 witch elves

>> No.73445318

>>73445148
Honestly it wouldn't surprise me if compendium points were taken out again this year. Or at the very least just left untouched.

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Lumineth
>Teclis
>Eltharion
>Avalanor
>Catcaller
>Alartit mage

Fyreslayers:
>Bael Grimnir
>Doomseeker
>Battlesmith
>Auric Runemaster
>Berzerker
>Runefather
>Runeson
>Runesmiter
>Runefather on magmadroth
>Runeson on magmadroth
>Runesmiter on magmadroth
Defend this.

>> No.73445380

>>73445346
Fyreslayers are a hero-imbalanced army with no depth in its core unit selection.

>> No.73445386

>>73445346
And all those fyreslayers models look identical, is that what you want for yourself?

>> No.73445397

>>73445386
They don't. Their heroes are all great sculpts unlike the mirrored infantry.

>> No.73445399

>>73445346
>Underworlds
>Silver Tower
>8th ed concept shows with options
LRL have more units

>> No.73445418

>>73444768
Bets on ethereal being the shyshian artefact?

>> No.73445428

>>73444227
fuck you anon you rat bastard, you had me hopeful there

>> No.73445430

>>73444768
>Ethereal amulet and aetherquartz brooch are finally gone

>> No.73445454

>>73445447
>>73445447
>>73445447

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>>73442997
You Sure?

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