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RESOURCES
>Official Site: Contains deck building rules and the current ban list.
http://www.mtgcommander.net

>Deck List Site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices.
http://www.tappedout.net

>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet.
http://www.edhrec.com/

>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity.
http://mtglands.com/

CARD SEARCH
>Official search site
http://gatherer.wizards.com/

>Unofficial card search
https://scryfall.com

>Thread Prompt:
If you could take one thing from blue and give it to another color what would it be?

>> No.73406910
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73406910

Took a break for about a year on Mtg to wait for news sets
How good is this guy? It looks like this dude can go off the walls very very fast even if you arent using infinites you can pretty much assemble a game winning board state in a single turn.
Is this guy Prossh level?

>> No.73406911
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>>73406885
>TQ

The meme color right now is Green.

>> No.73406921

>>73406885
>one thing from blue
I'd take permanent gain control effects, staple life loss cost equal to CMC, and give it to black.

>> No.73406926

>>73406885
>If you could take one thing from blue and give it to another color what would it be?
Brainstorm like effects

>> No.73406936
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>TQ
Counterspells to green

>> No.73406945

>>73406936
They already got one dont they

>> No.73406960

>>73406885
>If you could take one thing from blue and give it to another color what would it be?
Looting to black.

>>73406910
>How good is this guy? It looks like this dude can go off the walls very very fast even if you arent using infinites you can pretty much assemble a game winning board state in a single turn.
His biggest issue is that you can fizzle his effect with removal/bounce.

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>>73406747
>>73406813
They're all proxies, especially Path. High quality proxies are impossible to prove illegitimate without taking them out of the sleeve.

>> No.73406975

>>73406910
All the creatures enter simultaneously so Cathar's Crusade is pretty big. I'm sure there's plenty of jank involving evolve creatures but you could also just assemble some infinite combo or reanimate Skithyrx, Pathbreaker Ibex and Mogi's Marauder for a quick swing

>> No.73407016

>>73406960
>>73406975
What would you rate him in terms of strength?

>> No.73407060

>>73406966
So what IS the difference between a high quality proxy and a normal card? is there anything concrete?

>> No.73407095

>>73407060
The cardboard and ink

>> No.73407099
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>>73407016
I tend to evaluate graveyard decks a little low because my local meta has a lot of GY hate and interaction, with that being said you're still a GBx deck so you should be able to grind out a board state. Pic related will be your best friend.

>> No.73407124

>>73407060
Sometimes the colouration can be a bit off (particularly the back of the card) but from my experience the only way to tell the difference with high quality proxies is with a loupe

>> No.73407147

>>73406966
If it's fake, prove it.
Show us the black core.
It looks real, and I don't believe that they can fake GP promo Paths.

>> No.73407167

>>73407060
>So what IS the difference between a high quality proxy and a normal card? is there anything concrete?
The proxies unironically use better quality card stock and ink than real cards.

>> No.73407233

My flgs refuses to give out reliquary tower (love your lgs promo) as they say that the event is over.
Are they even allowed to do that?

>> No.73407258

>>73407147
I dunno, the Chinaman I use has a pretty exhaustive list of available cards and often does requests providing he can obtain good quality images

>> No.73407271

>>73407167
Foils tend to be less tubular too

>> No.73407278

>>73407233
Yeah, they're *allowed* to, they were told they could distribute it however they want.
Scummy thing to do, though, IMO.
If they won't give you guys the "love your LGS" promo, you should probably tell them you'll be shopping elsewhere.
what country you from, anon?

>> No.73407295
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How hard can this man go

>> No.73407326
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The image that killed /edhg/
I love my mailman

>> No.73407413

>>73407278
Italy :^)
I already refuse to shop from them, i only buy stuff there if the shipping costs are not advantageous for me, because for anything else, i shop online.
They basically sell stuff for x3 the prices you find online and they pull every jewish trick in order to inflate the prices whenever they can.
And then they have the nerve to cry that they're not making enough profit.

>> No.73407420

I want to FUCK avacyn

>> No.73407425

>>73407326
>hngh must... consume...
Keep your shameful purchases to yourself

>> No.73407426

>jumps start is 140 dollars a box

kill all jews

>> No.73407440

>>73407426
First Corona, now this. baka

>> No.73407539

>>73407167
The day will come when proxies and counterfeits are spotted because they look nice, and the real cards look like garbage.

>> No.73407554

>>73407539
>will come
Already has, bro.

>> No.73407613

>>73407426
>mystery booster boxes are 300$ despite msrp being 100$
>huh people really like this product, let's pump up the price as far as we can get away with because wizards removed transparent msrp to dodge responsibility
>booooohoooo why people are not buying anymore? Booo hooo.

>> No.73407622

>>73407613
>implying a box of plastic wrappers and cardboard is worth 100 bucks

>> No.73407632

>>73407613
I don’t remember any lgs that followed MSRP. FTV and spellbook were still spiked to hell

>> No.73407665

>>73407632
Well wizards only prints about 40% of the demand in order to keep prices artificially high so...

>> No.73407667
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>his commander isn't indestructible

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>>73407667
>his commander is indestructible
>he needs his commander to be indestructible
Anon...

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>>73407667
>>73407690
>His commander is a creature

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>>73407759
>using planeswalkers

>> No.73407766
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Really wish this babe wasn't boros

>> No.73407776

>>73406885
>tq
I'd take exile effects and give them to White

>> No.73407788

>>73407766
she was pretty alright when I played her

>> No.73407793

>>73407759
>his commander enters the battlefield

>> No.73407795

Anons, what do I do? I've always wanted a Force of Will, but it's going through a spike right now. That being said, it's supposed to get reprinted in Double Masters. Should I bite the bullet and purchase a couple now at $85-$100? Or wait and see of Double Masters release makes them cool off a little bit. Yes, I know about the Nielsen thing. The Double Masters version will most likely be a reprinting of the EMA art. So, maybe I should jsut scoop up some classic art now. I'm so conflicted. I had been saving up and eyeing a playset at my LGS for months and was just about ready to pull the trigger (literally wanted beginning of July to roll around so I could zero out 1 or two bills) and now WotC does this.

>> No.73407798

>>73407765
>using creatures that aren't enchantments instead

>> No.73407800
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>Opponents face when they see me casting Hymn in Kess

>> No.73407833

>>73407795
The Double Masters release is before Zendikar Rising, which is when they've said her last artwork contribution will be.

>> No.73407836

>>73407798
>using gods
Pitiful

>> No.73407837
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>>73407765
>he thinks I'm talking about Planeswalkers

>> No.73407846

>>73407800
What hymn?

>> No.73407860

>>73407833
Yeah I know, I said I expect DM to be a reprint of the EMA art, probably with a new full art frame and shit.

>> No.73407867

>>73407846
Hymen

>> No.73407873
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>>73407420
I'm afraid I've got some bad news.

>> No.73407893
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>>73407846

>> No.73407924 [DELETED] 

>mull to 4
>turn 4 Ulamog anyway
>against RB Aggro
>win
this deck is stupid
i love it

>> No.73407962
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>>73407420
Reminder that Griselbrand and thousands of other demons repeatedly despoiled Avacyn in the Helvault

>> No.73408016

>>73407962
They were in stasis, just like nahiri. Another reason why when they all broke free they were all ready to wreak havoc again

>> No.73408075

>>73408016
>just like nahiri
Bro, we have an entire story about how Nahiri experienced all the years she spent inside the Helvault. It's why she went nutso.

>> No.73408116

>>73407295
Once you give him deathtouch and equip Thornbite Staff, not much harder.

>> No.73408121

>>73406936
>>73406945
They already have several stifle type effects. Countering abilities is something green can do.

>> No.73408569

>>73407846
I want newfags to leave

>>73407873
Heh, looks like she came down with a sudden case of getting-in-the-way-of-a-millenia-old-vampire-itis

>> No.73408598

>>73407425
When did poorfags and trannies ruin mailman posting, what the fuck?

>> No.73408722

>>73408569
>a sudden case of getting-in-the-way-of-a-millenia-old-vampire-itis
I believe the official name is SORIN-16, but a lot of people just refer to it as the Sorinavirus.

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>>73406911

>> No.73408803

>>73408598
Poorfags have been shitting up the general since I can remember, there is always some runt spamming about proxies actively trying to shit up the general when no one really cares about proxies.
Always some poorfag posting about how they should ban expensive cards because they dont like other people using them.

>> No.73408813

>>73408779
>Comparing commons to mythics
decent quality meme ruined by stupidity

>> No.73408832

>>73408779
>2020

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>>73408832

>> No.73408882
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How come I’ve never seen this played?
>roll up with a commander in Rxx
>never resolves

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I can't read

>> No.73408909
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>>73408779
Look at me. I'm your meme, but better.

>> No.73408933
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>>73408882
Damn, sorry bro. Did you like that enchantment?

>> No.73408938

>>73408909
Mythic rarity happened

>> No.73408969

>>73408909
WOTC realized that creatures are what people like.

>> No.73408994
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I need some suggestions for Chainer.

Fuck green and fuck blue.

>> No.73408999

>>73408994
Don't forget he gives himself haste when cast from the command zone and also play a better commander

>> No.73409031

>>73408999

There literally isn't one in Rakdos.

>> No.73409037
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>>73408994
Anger and Filth

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>>73409031

>> No.73409049

>>73408933
I mean repeatable versus one time?

>> No.73409067

>>73409049
red is the least-played color in the format, and it cost 5 (FIVE) mana to counter a single very narrow thing with douse.

>> No.73409074

>>73409037
Is Anger really necessary with Chainer's second ability?

>> No.73409075
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>>73409042

Name a better one then. Grenzo is shit, I'm not going to sit there and constantly fiddle with the bottom card of my library.

>> No.73409087

I'm sad that zurzoth is better off not being a tribal deck and doesnt have a way to rebuild momentum post boardwipe, neither does it get very far with momentum

>> No.73409089
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Reminder that green was never the worse color

>> No.73409101
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>>73409089
>And then he said, "Craterhoof is good!"

>> No.73409108

>>73409089
Why would you post that card and not berserk.

>> No.73409129

>>73409075
Vial Smasher, Kroxa, Xantcha, Grenzo

>> No.73409132

>>73408994
A while back I asked for suggestions for Chainer and a guy told me to try Thought Gorger.

>> No.73409146

>>73409074
Probably not, but you never know.

>> No.73409159
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>>73409132
Oof, that's a spicy meatball. I'd give it a shot.

>> No.73409165

>>73406885
>If you could take one thing from blue and give it to another color what would it be?

Counterspells. I would declare them universal and give every color counterspells that are almost as good as blue ones. Interacting with the stack is far too important to be exclusive to one color.

>> No.73409199

>>73409074
Always have redundancy. Chainer is probably going to eat some serious removal over the course of the game.

>> No.73409223

>>73409165
Based. Although I do believe other colors should get conditional counters. Universal counters should remain a blue thing. Maybe let black have them if it pays a shit load of life/permanents.

>> No.73409229
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Is it a dick move to play this in paper? Is it a dick move to copy it?

>> No.73409230
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>>73408994
>fuck green and fuck blue
>while playing nuChainer

If you're gonna be a turbofag might as well play Anje

>>73409159
Bloodtracker is another great card that's very spashable, especially good in green

>> No.73409232

Everyone ITT is bad at magic except for me.
also, literally every post ITT is me. I just have a lot of proxies and I'm extremely schizophrenic

>> No.73409247

>>73409165
I'd keep unconditional counters in U (but keep them blue mana intensive so that you can't just splash them everywhere) and give each color good, conditional counters and stack interaction. White gets the tax counters like Spell Pierce and instant-speed protection from X effects, Red gets Forks and redirects, Green gets targeting spell counters and more things that grant instant-speed hexproof for protecting their permanents, Black gets counters with extra costs tacked on like paying life or discarding cards (you know, the thing that Black used to do).

>> No.73409289

>>73409223
I still think it's ridiculous that black doesn't get "Sacrifice a permanent: Destroy target permanent that shares a type with the sacrificed one"'s effect. Instead we have to rely on colorless for targetted Enchantmentremoval. Even blue can remove literally any permanent before and after it's resolved

>>73409229
Most groups I know will just ignore it, same with MLD that doesn't win the game. Time is a precious resource for non-NEETs that I play with

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Post some of your favorite spice

>> No.73409300
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*counters your Sol ring*
*teleports behind you*
Heh, nothen personnel, kid.

>> No.73409304

>>73409232
Do you need a friend, anon? We can play EDH together.

>> No.73409328
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>>73409300
*exiles Force of Will*
heh, you just got omaewa'd

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>>73409304
cockatrice is literally the only thing more cancerous and cringe than discord and I avoid playEDH for that very same reason.

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>>73409300
>>73409328
did you guys remember to pay the 3?

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>>73409230

How does the new version of Chainer relate to the current Simic shitshow? I just want to play a viable Rakdos deck for fucks sake.

>> No.73409355

>>73409350
*Exiles three mana monkeys* why, of course.

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>>73409350
This is still turn 1, retard.
>>73409328
Get fucked

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>>73409365
*laughs* but it's not my turn, anon.

>> No.73409382

>>73409353
Greven is better and more fun.

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>>73409365
Well I revealed this in my opening hand anyways

>> No.73409392

>>73409165
white should have conditional counter spells or based on tax effects

red should have counters that lose them the game on the next turn

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>>73409383
I don't care.

>> No.73409402

>>73409378
So is this basically split second with extra steps, or can this still be responded to?

>> No.73409413

>>73409336
A simple "no" would've sufficed. I hope you find what you're looking for, if anything.

>> No.73409418

>>73409401
What are you countering here exactly, it's an ability

>> No.73409433

>>73409418
>>73409378

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>>73409401
>he's willing to lose the game on his second turn to counter a sol ring
Based

>> No.73409442

>>73409434
*stifles the suicide trigger*
*looks at self in mirror*
Better luck next time, friend.

>> No.73409449

>>73409413
The answer isn't exactly no, it's just I don't want to do cockatrice is all and that's basically the /edhg/ online format of choice. I'm just waiting for my LGS to open back up which is probably not going to happen anytime soon.

I miss bulk commander so fucking bad.

>> No.73409455

>>73409402
No, it can still be countered and stuff. Its why Time Stop from Kamigawa is only like 2 dollars.

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>>73409383
put these in your opening hand anon~

>> No.73409475
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>>73409298
Turn your opponents into your strenght

>> No.73409489

>>73409475
i unironically love the goad enchantments

>> No.73409498

>>73409455
I think I misread the rules text then.
>Exile all abilities and spells from the stack
That's what confused me at first, but there's nothing on the card saying it can't be responded to

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>>73409442
I have a response to your stifle

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>>73409546
NOOO! You can't just make me kill myself like taht!

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>>73407759

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>>73409382

Ty I will look at him next.

>> No.73409611

>>73409579
>Drawn by the rape man

>> No.73409619
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>>73408882
Because it's very telegraphed and it only works against a single color? Outside of Blind Seer shenanigans or playing it to be a dick to a guy in your group who only runs red, it isn't very useful.

Hard counter cards like that in card games are things you usually only ever see in side decks because they aren't very good during general gameplay unless you happen to be playing against the niche card type they work against.

Things like Guttural response and REB/Pyroblast are more justifiable in an EDH deck because while they only counter/destroy blue spells or permanents, they only cost one mana and being able to counter blue cards can be huge.

>> No.73409633

>>73409579
You know, you could make an enchantment into your commander make sense flavorwise. Instead of a physical person that keeps your army together its a belief, like a religion that becomes the centerpiece.
That heores card has terrible flavor though

>> No.73409645
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>>73409353
I hate every Legend with a FIRE design. Completely soulless. NuCHainer is one step away from "Do Thing: Draw Card" levels of uninspired, same with most of the new Commander precon Legends over the past few years

>> No.73409671

>>73409645
>mirri is soulless
Way to out yourself as a retard

>> No.73409693

>>73409579
the thumbnail for this looks like a dude with goat legs wearing a tutu.

>> No.73409719
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>>73409101
Oh no no no greenbros how can we be so nerfed, this is so unfair

>> No.73409729
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>>73409671
I'm posting an example of a Legend I like. NuKaervek is really close to being a well designed Legend, too bad it's art is LoL-tier, the flavor text is uninspired and the ability is underwhelming even if he was printed decades ago

Great art, simple but open-ended ability, flavor text. That's all I ask for

>> No.73409755
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73409755

What legendary creature is the Fox(SSBM) of commander?

>> No.73409759

>>73409645

I'm not convinced that his design is so atrocious. He's 4 mana, plus X for whatever you want to cast from the graveyard once per turn. He has no protection from removal and only 2 toughness. Maybe he lacks the charm of older cards but at worst his design is sort of unremarkable. Like I said, I just want to play Rakdos with getting shit on by UGx.

>> No.73409810
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73409810

>>73409489
I do too. They’re so good and create interesting situations.
Too bad im stuck at home right now

>> No.73409860

>>73409671
Retard

>> No.73409886

>>73409755
Weeb Kitsune stuff from kanagawa. Take your pick

>> No.73409916
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73409916

>>73409759
I think he is a well designed card mechanically. Many others think this too as he almost has as many decks on EDHRec as Grenzo. He is a discard outlet in the command zone which is rare even in mono-B (though it's limited to once per turn for some reason) and he gives a nice passive to reanimation. His first ability synergizes with his second perfectly (another hallmark of FIRE design) and the deck you make with him practically makes itself

My only issue with him is he's boring. I grew up with Chainer and Kamahl as my favorite characters and this makes me feel nothing. I can't imagine any kid walking into an LGS and seeing this card and being wow'd like the first time I peered into a case and saw Ascendant Evincar or Tsabo Tavoc

People play for different reasons of course and if this brings out the inner Johnny in you go for it. For me personally, it's on the same level as Yarok or Muldrotha and other value commanders.

>> No.73409920

Honestly, I blame the format more than the cards for GU being busted. Even before pushed shit like uro and oko, simic was still king in edh because ramp and card draw are the best things you can be doing in a format where you have three opponents and everyone starts with fucking 40 life.
Like, what do you EXPECT to happen in that environment?

>> No.73409927

>>73409755
Urza. Previously Jhoria v2. Previously Yidris before thag. It becomes a test of who can out artifact/storm who.

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>>73409546
>>73409401
>>73409365
>>73409328
>>73409300


Oh yeah well counter THIS you Blue fucks

>> No.73409966
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>>73409920
Blue is the best color. UG is just blue with ramp. Until other colors get brought up to blue's level (and they're fucking trying with green of all colors) that's how it's going to be.

>> No.73409967

>>73409946
Do it, coward

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73409991

>>73409946
*eats ur gun*
mrmph

>> No.73409993
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73409993

>>73409089
CHANNEL FOREVER
LONG LIVE REBECCA

>> No.73410015

>>73409860
Yes, thats what you are

>> No.73410035

>>73409966
>green is not as good as blue
You’re fucking stupid

>> No.73410036
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73410036

>>73409946
You won't, pussy no balls.

>> No.73410048
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73410048

>>73409916
>His first ability synergizes with his second perfectly (another hallmark of FIRE design) and the deck you make with him practically makes itself
That makes a lot of sense. I remember when Daretti got spoiled I thought it was great because he's a 1 card engine, looting and reanimating stuff. Now we also have stuff like pic, Goblin Engineer and Emry that all both interact with the graveyard and fill it. The closest thing I can think of that's older would be something like Life from the Loam, that dredges lands into the GY and returns them.

>> No.73410058

>>73410035
I don't see any mono-G commanders that can compete with Urza or Teferi at the highest level

>> No.73410062

>>73406885
Should i buy mistery booster or wait for jumpstar?

>> No.73410077

>>73409229
Warp Worlding when you clearly have more permanents (tokens) is a good way to seal a game.

>> No.73410083

>>73410035
Are you joking? Or do you see a card like elder garganoth, which is just worse than thragtusk, and start screeching because it has more words?

>> No.73410085

>>73410048
>Every card has to be the engine AND the outlet for the engine
This has to be the stupidest fucking shit from FIRE philosophy.

>> No.73410100

>>73410083
What does it have to with what i posted you absolute cretin

>> No.73410112
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73410112

>>73410083
>which is just worse than thragtusk

>> No.73410127

>>73410062
If you can’t buy a box for between 100-200$, it’s not worth it. Especially if the only really big dick money card after all the drops remains Mana crypt.

I wonder when will be the day Wotc stop being mega Jews and just lets some of the big reprints get down shifted to rates

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73410139

>>73410127
>lets some of the big reprints get down shifted to rates
Good one, anon.

>> No.73410143

>>73410100
The new green cards aren’t nearly as good as you think they are. In a format with access to all* the cards like EDH, blue is clearly better.

>>73410112
So, what do you get from the garganoth when it’s killed? You really shouldn’t evaluate cards based on their best-case scenario.

>> No.73410144

>>73410083
This is the level retardation we’re up against. It infests that standard player base and more importantly, it infests Wotc [email protected]

>> No.73410146
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>>73410085
Sometimes it isn't so egregious. You aren't going to cast something like this on an empty GY and hope to mill something worth 5 mana or more. When it's a permanent card that generates value every turn though, it's pretty fucking awful.

>> No.73410152

>>73407846
Dumb!ss

>> No.73410194
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73410194

>he thinks elder G. Isn't a good card

>> No.73410215

>>73409467
so do you have to pay 1 or 2 for those?

>> No.73410240

>>73410194
It’s pushed, it’s above the curve, it’s ridiculously power creeped, but in 2020 magic cards need to immediately generate infinite value and make 1-for-1 removal look bad to be good. You know questing beast? That other stupid pushed mythic with a million lines of text? Yeah, it didn’t accomplish shit. Garganoth is slower and doesn’t even have haste. It dying gets you the same as a craw wurm would: nothing.

>> No.73410249

>>73410146
I went up against a Lazav mill deck that kept playing this yesterday

Very boring

>> No.73410352

>>73410240
If this card was made 10 years ago, it would be a staple in every green deck. Uro existence single handily makes this and questing beast look bad. The cards make the format.

>> No.73410407

>>73409645
Based kitty titties

>> No.73410456

>>73409289
They specifically and explicitly do not want black to be able to sacrifice its own enchantments at will because so many of them are meant to be benefits with downsides that start mattering later on.
You're more likely to see black get conditionless enchantment destruction than you are enchantment destruction that involves sacrificing an enchantment of its own.

>> No.73410509

>>73410085

What, exactly is the difference between the 'engine' and the 'outlet'? Look, I'm not trying to be obtuse.

>> No.73410556

>>73410456
It would be kind of cool to see something like
Spiteful Obliteration 1BB
Sorcery
Destroy target permanent which is not an enchantment, if a permanent is destroyed this way you lose life equal to it's converted mana cost.

>> No.73410568

>>73410556
>black destroying artifacts
Are you retarded or what?

>> No.73410604
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>>73410509
An engine does 2 things which are related or feed each other in some way, by my personal definition. You could consider both Daretti planeswalkers to be engines, one a removal and the other a reanimation

>> No.73410627

>>73410509
Not him, but the outlet is the payoff and the engine is how you get there.
For Obsessive Stitcher you use the first ability to bin the card that you return with the second ability.

>> No.73410636

>>73410568
It’s bound to happen when Wotc reintroduced phyrexians. They’ve used up so many ideas that’s it’s not impossible to think they’ll crack I’m surprised Wotc kept control when they came up with the aetherborn

>> No.73410647

>>73410627
>the outlet is the payoff
You’re dumb as a sack of bricks

>> No.73410663

>>73410636
It didn’t happen last time. These assumptions are so far from reality thats laughable, really

>> No.73410679

>>73410647
Look I would have chosen a different word, but use your context clues. It's not hard to know what he was complaining about.
Throwing things away and bringing them back on the same card.

>> No.73410686

>>73410663
Yea no they just made a bunch of free cost cards that were colourless and infect. Do not underestimate Wotc

>> No.73410718

>>73410686
I do not underestimate wotcs retardation but for now we don’t even know if we’ll return to phyrexia AGAIN

>> No.73410736

>>73410718
Given all the clues in the story so far, it's not a matter of "if" but "when"

>> No.73410755

>>73408075
Yeah but in that exact story we saw all the demons tried to attack Avacyn and she fought every single one off and drifted over to hang out with nahiri. It was a pretty neat story to be honest, I thought it was interesting that Avacyn was immediately furious at Nahiri but I think she chilled out.

>> No.73410782

>>73410718
The entire point of Theros Beyond was for Wotc to get Elspeth out of story limbo and have ashiok learn about Phyrexia to set up the pieces with the rest of theros story being a literal after thought. Also Karn wants to nuke his cockup cascade he started sets ago. We’re going back after Wotc is done with their year off break since War of the spark.

>> No.73410818

>>73408075
Nahiri is a planeswalker, whom probably isn't effected in the same way as the rest of the creatures. She was trapped, but was able to keep consciousness.

>> No.73410838

>>73410818
Yea, that's why she felt demons brushing past her

>> No.73410842

>>73410818
Well no in the story everything else was conscious but we also have literally every moment Avacyn was in the helvault documented. And we know all of it involved fighting for her life and eventually the demons giving up on trying to kill her, then floating over to chill with Nahiri after being mad at her at first.

>> No.73410904

>>73410240
Didn't Questing Beast see play in legacy?

>> No.73410990
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73410990

Part of me still can't believe that this is a real card that is going to print. I could not be more erect.

>> No.73411049

>>73406885
>tq
nothing, the only thing blue has thats really unique anymore is actual cards that say "counter target spell"
>MUH CARD DRAW
literally every color draws cards now, green and red especially have had cards that provide more card advantage than some blue spells.
im not saying only blue should have card draw but some colors having things like drawing cards and others not is what made them different and made it a real cost to play mono or dual colors, if you played blue black you couldnt beat enchantments unless you had a counterspell, now you have pharikas libation, if you played red you had a strong aggressive start but fizzled out because you dont draw many cards, risk factor and light up the stage shat on that. green couldnt remove creatures very well but now you have so many cards that are basically 2 mana kill spells as long as you have a dude that has more unga than their dudes bunga and when we're in a world where theyre printing cards like questing beast, giagantosaurus and other huge ass dudes for dirt cheap, thats not too difficult.
they havent fully fucked everything though, the general control beats midrange midrange beats aggro aggro beats control mostly holds true, but i cant wait to see how long it takes for them to fuck that up. ]
TLDR fuck play design fuck FIRE fuck MARO and all his little buddies,

>> No.73411124

>>73409619
Seems like a lot of people play grixis, rug, 5c and 4c decks.
At very least they will be casting their commanders.

>> No.73411133
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73411133

Hey bros: another prerelease, another pile of codes.

>> No.73411170

>>73411133
Unimaginably based.

>> No.73411205

>>73411133
Thanks bro.

>> No.73411279
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73411279

Do you lads think keeping a Inquisition in the 100 of Kess is worth it for Edh?

>> No.73411355

>>73411279
Biased but I like hand info. I'd just replace IoK with Thoughtseize for more choices. Or Duress.

>> No.73411373

>>73411133
Based thanks. Got 2 solemn and a massacre wurm

>> No.73411380

>>73411355
I already have thoughtsieze, probably should add Duress aswell, thanks.

>> No.73411543
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73411543

>>73407539
>Will come
My real Tarn is curled and unplayable
And I don't even care about the expedition, I got in a booster and just wanted to play

>> No.73411568
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73411568

>>73411279
Mindblaze

>> No.73411581

>gotta wait a whole week for M21 booster
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

>> No.73411686

>>73411581
Just play Arena™!
Were not killing paper tho, for realz

>> No.73411790
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73411790

>cast heartless hidetsugu or reanimate it
>move to equip boots onto it
>move to equip pic related onto it.
Do you have any responses, anon?

>> No.73411807
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73411807

>>73411790
Yep.

>> No.73411827

talk me out of buying a liliana of the veil

>> No.73411832

>>73411827
She's one of the best cards ever printed and has held her value through several reprints.

>> No.73411848 [SPOILER] 
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73411848

>>73411807
>>73411790
Yes! We are crashing this plane with no survivors.
do you pay 1?

>> No.73411880

>>73411827
she's a thot who got her position through e-begging and only considerer changing her ways after a literal white knight simp died for her

>> No.73411907

Hot take
The banlist is just an excuse for casual shitters to admit they are to pussy to say they dont want to play against a specific commander and somewhat balance a format that is supposed to be casual

>> No.73411910

>>73411790
yeah, equipping the exoskeleton is an illegal move, retard.

>> No.73411916

If Thrasios was banned from Commander, how much would that change cEDH?

>> No.73411924

>>73411832
how good is she in edh though

>> No.73411930
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73411930

>>73411910
How? I equipped boots. Don't tell me you guys are really this bad at magic.

>> No.73411939

>>73411827
Its a card that only actually has value because its popular in modern

>> No.73411942

>>73411924
Depends on the deck. She's one of the best cards in my UB control deck but I can imagine plenty of lists that she sucks in.

>> No.73411952

>>73411916
it would just move to some other combo in the command zone in simic colors

>> No.73411961

>>73411930
>boots
well, shit. the other one is greaves. i eat dicks.

>> No.73411964

>>73411916
People would play commanders that enable a infinite combo thats is perhaps a turn slower or a little less consistent.

>> No.73411985
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73411985

Should this card be banned?
Why or whynot

>> No.73411986

Imagine being THAT guy that plays partner commanders

>> No.73412003

>>73411985
>Should this card be banned?
He is one of the few cards where the answer to this question is actually yes.

>why?
wheels

>> No.73412010

>>73410904
Fringe play to counter TNN and PW based control.

>> No.73412014

>>73411961
You're good, I'm just having the piss.
I could have also said sandals or chariot and really thrown you off.

>> No.73412025

>>73412003
>wheels
Which ones

>> No.73412029

>>73411985
Enables degeneracy that is difficult to respond to considering his colors and 2nd ability. My group refused to use him out of principal long before he got banned.

>> No.73412034

>>73411985
Isn't this dude really popular in vintage of all places?

>> No.73412035

>>73411827
She sucks dick in edh because her whole gimmick is contributing to the jund outvalue gameplan and you cant donthat against 3 players.

>> No.73412043

>>73411916
it would change the metagame in a reasonable way. the reason thrasios is so good is that he has partner so with tymna you have 4 colors, he costs 2 mana so he isnt super demanding casting cost wise, hes a mana sink for both infinite combo wins and just for value so hes very flexible. its similar with commanders like ghave, najeela, urza, kinan, yisan etc. etc. the deck itself may shift to another 4 color pair that leverages similar combos/win conditions.

>> No.73412044

>>73412025
All of them.

>> No.73412060

>>73412044
Wheel of fortune?

>> No.73412061

>>73412025
Any of them in blue or black. There's more than enough to go around. It's like nekusar but even more staxy and instead of grixis, it's sultai which is the actual most degenerate color combo.
Even as a stand alone card it's pretty busted. Especially in those colors.

>> No.73412062

You do play at least one monocolor deck don't you?

>> No.73412075

>>73412062
Yes but /edhg/ doesn't approve of my pet commander so I don't talk about him too much anymore.

>> No.73412109

>>73412075
Who? If its monocolor its okay by me. I love hearing about what things people are doing to sure up the weaknesses of their colors.

>> No.73412110
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73412110

>>73412062
"No."

>> No.73412123

>>73411985
Shoulda made him green white.

>> No.73412144

>>73412110
I'd love to see your mannichi list anon

>> No.73412151 [SPOILER] 
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73412151

>>73412109
I pulled him in a foil and i really like the foil version of it.
The idea behind him is combat tricks that turn into instant speed kill spells. Giant growth does 11 damage to a creature for 1 Mana. It's a lot more fun than people give him credit for because the Hydra tribal thing the first line of text forces you to build around. My version of him has like 3 hydras.

>> No.73412156

>>73412110
>alexi
AHahaHGAHAH Look at this DOOD with the hairline

>> No.73412171
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73412171

>>73406885
I will build him. Forgive, for I shall consume.

>> No.73412175

>>73406910
He's really good, he's got a high mutate cost but he's in green so that's not a huge drawback also gives you plenty of time setting up your graveyard. You can normally win the turn you play him either going infinite with a combo like Karmic Guide + Reveillark or just having soany creatures like a token generator, a sac outlet and an aristocrat that you drain the whole table.

>> No.73412205

>>73412151
I'll admit hydras are pretty boring to me personally but he is pretty cool as a fight club commander. The fact that Gargos is the one who fights regardless of who is the target is really clean design to me.
Do you run a cheeky Anthoussa in there?

>> No.73412225

>>73412029
>Enables degeneracy
How

>> No.73412236

>>73412171
So do Dusk Rose vampires consume the blood of the wicked or just use it in rituals? Wouldn't consuming the blood of the wicked make them wicked?
Vampire faith structures are an interesting thing to explore.

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>>73412062
Dunno what I want to do for a mono-w deck.

>> No.73412258
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73412258

>>73412144
I dont have it written up, but it's walls/flowstone tribal
The winning plays are playing stalking vengeance or war storm surge and then activating mannichis ability to basically use your walls as burn spells.
There's also sacrificing your walls to hellion eruption or descent of the dragons, and then soul blasting someone

>> No.73412259
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73412259

>>73412062
Of course I do!

>> No.73412261

>>73412205
It's a card I completely forgot existed. Thanks, anon :)

>> No.73412285

>>73411790
Don’t need one, ivory mask is on the battlefield

>> No.73412286

>>73412225
His text essentially says you will always be at a card disadvantage if you try to remove anything. It turns "normal magic" into "suboptimal lines" automatically.
The problem with this mindset is there isn't really a problem with this mindset. You should still kill him on sight and suck up the lose in value. Use the politics of the format against the person playing him, which is the intended purpose considering what he does, his name, and his flavor text. It is paradoxically ironic in its own way.
Being sultai in identity is more of a sin than any of the actual text on the card. If he was the same card but boros (he could be) he would be championed as the second coming.

>> No.73412331

>>73412261
Thats why we talk about our commanders bro. If someone doesn't want to see it being discussed they can fuck right off.

>>73412247
>obligatory recommendation of Avacyn
But seriously, try monowhite samurai with Nagao as the commander.

>> No.73412334

>>73412285
Anon....

>> No.73412338

>buying core 21
>sealed product of all things
I seriously hope you guys don’t do this

>> No.73412348

>>73412286
He shouldve been Abzan

>> No.73412364

>>73412285
*chuckles* yes anon, you're totally safe. It resolves.

>> No.73412373 [SPOILER] 
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>>73412331
I already have Avacyn as a commander. I'm trying to stay away from tribal (since I have 2 tribal decks already). Was looking at that new mythic dude from core 2021 that's like Kraum.

>> No.73412374
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73412374

>>73412258
>flowstone with walls
That is really neat. People always forget about pic related. While not amazing it is decent removal. I play it in my Brothers Yamazaki deck.

>> No.73412379

>>73412062
Das White

>> No.73412384

>>73412334
>>73412364
Oh shit. I eat hidetsugu before it resolves.

>> No.73412387

>>73412338
I'll do what I always do, buy a single booster pack for old times sake. Hope I get something interesting but then again I have no idea whats in a normal $4 pack and whats not.

>> No.73412401
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73412401

>>73411985
>>73412003
>>73412029
>>73412286
You're all wrong as to why he is banned in EDH. It is simply because with his first line of text, you can lock opponents out of game completely with Anvil of Bogardan. That's why he got banned.

>> No.73412414

>>73412384
Judge!

>> No.73412421

>>73412348
He should have been anything but sultai. Nothing about him is sultai identity at all. Hell he could have been azorius and it would have made more sense.
Leovold was someone's pet ccg card that made it to print somehow.

>>73412401
Nah, there are infinite commanders that can lock the game down with x card. He was banned mostly because of fee fees, and slightly because he isn't a real magic card. He is absolutely ccg tier.

>> No.73412426
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73412426

>>73412401
>"You're all wrong! He isn't banned because of this broken interaction! He's banned because of this other, exactly identical interaction!"

>> No.73412442

>>73412414
Call the judge all you want, he can't uneat your cards.

>> No.73412445

>>73412414
Nothing else has happened since you called me, I'm going to allow it to happen. You have the right to appeal but you are sitting dangerously close to getting a DQ so I strongly urge against it.

>> No.73412453
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73412453

>>73411790
>>73411910
>>73411930
It IS an illegal move with Lightning Greaves

>intentionally obfuscating what card you mean by “boots”
gg

>> No.73412454

>>73412236
Criminals and enemies of the crown and church can be subject to a vampires thirst. It’s basically their equivalent of the 13th amendment where human rights are respected until you become a criminal. Now it becomes a matter of who is deemed a criminal in the eyes of the order is what gets them into the grey area.

>> No.73412465
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73412465

>>73412442

>> No.73412479

>>73412454
Are the church and the state one and the same to the Dusk Rose?
I genuinely checked out for Ixalan so I know nothing about them aside from vampire conquistadors.

>> No.73412495

>>73412062
>teshar combo
>sakashima clones
>tinybones wip
>norin etbs
>yisan combo
>hope of ghirapur robots/voltron

how gay am i?

>> No.73412496

>>73412421
>>73412426
>We had hopes for Leovold and gave him every opportunity to prove that he would be strong but safe in the format. He simply wasn’t. Leovold violates the tenet of creating undesirable game states by easily locking other players out of the game. We prefer to encourage situations in which everyone gets to play, and it’s too easy for Leovold to create the opposite, even unintentionally.
It wasn't any issue with value or anything, it was because he could create cheap 2-card locks, the primary of which was Anvil of Bogardan, with very little setup or mana cost.

>> No.73412523

>>73412496
>even unintentionally
Bullshit, no one oops into locks with Leo, and that was the problem.
You can oops into Ghave instantly winning the game. Leovold is never an accident.

>> No.73412526

>>73412445
Respectfully sir, my opponent is failing to maintain a proper gamestate by hiding my creature and it's attached equipment in his stomach. I would like to tap my Heartless Hidegetsu.

>> No.73412528
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73412528

>>73412465
That art looked familiar. it’s a nice style but now I’m worried Igor can’t paint more than one demon

>> No.73412536

>>73412495
Pretty gay, but the kind of gay that is tolerable maybe even fun to hang with. If you present yourself and boisterous like Teshar but default to something akin to Norin when being yelled at you are a good guy.

>> No.73412538

>>73412496
So its basically that he creates wins where the opponent can continue and make the game utterly miserable for themselves

>> No.73412541

>>73412247
Have you considered Brimaz anthems using crusade and jihad

>> No.73412542

>>73412062
Playing one monocolor deck is good for one’s soul

>> No.73412557

>>73412526
>738.2 - Just because a card is now in the digestive tract or stomach of your opponent does not mean they have left play. You may still tap your opponent to tap any card they may have consumed

This ruling was added precisely due to US players.

>> No.73412567
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73412567

>>73411790
I cast Teferi's Protection and get a drink for next game

>> No.73412574

>>73412523
Yeah man, didn't you know? Every little timmy runs Knowledge Pool, Scroll Rack and Teferi's Puzzle Box

>> No.73412576

>>73412496
Turn 3-4 wins are possible with other commanders though

>> No.73412595

>>73412528
It could be lead up to a plane we've never been to where all demons look like that.
They both appear to be representations of hedonism. Goremand is a pretty easy Gluttony allusion, don't know what you'd claim Agonies is though.

>> No.73412597

>>73412557
>This ruling was added precisely due to US players.
Could have sworn it was because of English players

>> No.73412616

>>73412538
And yet stax is promoted. Weird huh?

>>73412597
No, lamb bladder related rulings are 738.6-9

>> No.73412624

>>73412421
hes sultai because hes an elf and edric was simic so the bad guy edric is add black. elves arent really based anyways aside from a few niche cards. there are more elves with black than white if memory serves me right.

>> No.73412627

>>73412034
yes

>> No.73412633
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73412633

>>73412567
did you think you could escape Hidetsugu's wrath?
Nah senpai. Nah.

>> No.73412637
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73412637

>>73412616
>lamb bladder
>Not English
???

>> No.73412638
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73412638

>>73412557
Tap my opponent? I'll take the match loss and bank on the reverse sweep.

>> No.73412644
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73412644

>>73412633
I prefer Flaring Pain

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73412646

>>73412541
I already have a tokens deck that uses Jihad.

>> No.73412650

>>73412624
>there are more elves with black than white if memory serves me right.
They are about the same, most are mono green and Black w

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73412671

>>73412453
>lightning greaves are commonly called greaves
>swiftfoot boots are commonly called boots
not even him but youre a fucking brainlet.

>> No.73412679

>>73412453
>It IS an illegal move with Lightning Greaves
Well good fucking thing he said "Boots" and not "Greaves" then, innit?

>> No.73412693

>>73412671
>no one calls auras pants anymore
It hurts more than I thought it would.

>> No.73412713

>>73412638
I miss this big nigga like you wouldn't believe.
If I were to make a male angel card I would literally use this guy in this pose.
I am not joking.

>> No.73412732
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73412732

>>73412693
Anon, I did not want to feel this feel.
why would you do this to me

>> No.73412740

>>73412374
One of my favourite cards anon, you are a man of good taste

>> No.73412755

>>73411986
most of the partners are fine, its just thrassios thats bullshit

>> No.73412791

>>73412755
My favorite partner pairing is Ravos/Tymna. It is the only pairing that doesn't feel forced.
Ironically, Regna/Krav is also WB with white male black female.

Almost all partners are just an excuse to run multiple color pairings that have no reason to be ran together. That is my real problem with partners.

>> No.73412838

>>73412791
>Almost all partners are just an excuse to run multiple color pairings that have no reason to be ran together.
well seeing as all the color pairs have legend that is not partners thats pretty retarded

>> No.73412867
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73412867

>>73412062
Of course

>> No.73412890

>>73412838
>most common pairing is BR/GU
Anon, its just an excuse to run 4 colors for no reason.

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73412892

>>73412062
Sure do.

>> No.73412936

>>73412890
>host a Casual EDH room on Cockatrice
>one guy in pregame lobby asks "What do you consider casual?"
>same guy runs Vial Smasher/Thrasios
What a surprise

>> No.73412942

>>73412062
stop replying to this shitty bait post for crying out loud!

>> No.73412970

>>73412890
there are already 4 color commanders though, you are literally complaining about nothing

>> No.73412973

>>73412755
Tymna is bonkers good if you can connect with more than 1 opponent a turn, she's basically Phyrexian Arena on crack.

>> No.73413006

>>73412973
>just connect bro
>eats a removal spell

>> No.73413017

>>73412970
You seem to be the one complaining. I'm just saying people pick partners for the colors. I'm not complaining about it, simply stating that is what people play them for.
You are the one who is refusing to believe that my statement has merit to it.
Its all good dude, calm down. I'm not here to be arguing with you, I have no desire to do so.

>> No.73413036
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73413036

What are actual win conditions for Derevi aside from you opponents getting pissed and folding

>> No.73413039

>>73413017
are you ESL? im not complaining, im pointing out that anon complaining about 4 color is dumb because there are already 4 color commanders

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73413045

>>73412713

>> No.73413057

I put Vial Smasher in Grenzo. It isn't a good place for him but goblin tribal gonna goblin. The only real plus in there is he incentivizes casting at least 1 card from hand a turn. Once Grenzo starts going you kind of forget you have a hand.

>> No.73413059

Migrate
>>73413052
>>73413052
>>73413052

>> No.73413065

>>73413017
So.... this is the power of american education.

>> No.73413078

>>73413065
Im English though

>> No.73413090

>>73413078
Your reading comprehension skills suggest otherwise.

>> No.73413131

>>73413090
How do you mean

>> No.73413233
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73413233

>>73412062
Sure do

>> No.73413275

>>73411133
all claimed now

>> No.73413638

>>73413632
>>73413632
>>73413632
Slide on over whenever.

>> No.73413989

>>73413233
could you pinch the card with you greasy little fingers and remove it from the sleeve before taking a picture

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>>73413036
this.

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73415181

>>73406885
>still using scryfall

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