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Endless Breadsticks edition

Previous >>72734093

RESOURCES
>"Official" Site: Contains deck building guidelines and the current ban list.
http://www.mtgcommander.net

>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet.
http://www.edhrec.com/

>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity.
http://mtglands.com/

>Deck List Site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices.
http://www.tappedout.net

CARD SEARCH
>Official search site.
http://gatherer.wizards.com/

>Unofficial, but has GOAT search interface and syntax
http://scryfall.com

>Thread Question:
combine the art from one card, the mechanics from another card, and the name from a third card to creature your perfect commander.

>> No.72751194

>Force of Will and Jace are probably gonna be in Double Masters
god fucking dammit, this better make them cheaper

>> No.72751380

>>72751194
Nothing's getting cheaper at $16 a pack, dude.

>> No.72751448

>>72751380
Because Goyf, Snapcaster and Dark Depths are still $60 a card, right?

>> No.72751449
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72751449

Better thread question:
Does your LGS have a unique ban list?

Mine does

>> No.72751507

>>72751449
>moat
but why?

>> No.72751530

>>72751449
Only time my lgs had a ban list was for Sylvan Primordial, before he was banned.

>> No.72751537

>>72751449

>fucking retard is banned

why

>> No.72751540

>>72751449
bait. None of it makes sense and it starts off with the absolute most divisive thing possible.

>> No.72751549

>>72751449
what type of casual shop is this? id love to find somewhere like this

>> No.72751566

>>72751194
>>72751380
>>72751448
Usually directly after a reprint, even mythics in masters sets, expensive cards will tick down some. They won't plummet. But Force of Will might go back to 60-70 where it was a few months ago. Pretty quickly they recover and go back to where they were at, though. I feel like a dingus because I just splurged on a foil Mox Opal because it recently crashed in price and its alleged to be reprinted in DM. It is what it is, I'll probably pick a few more moxies if it comes down cheap enough. I've been holding out on any copies of FoW for years, but soon might be the time to pull some triggers.

>> No.72751586

>>72751449
>backwards image search this
>first thing that pops up is mtg subleddit
hello redddditttt

>>72751380
the price per pack doesn't matter if what is in the packs has an ev above that price.

>> No.72751591

>>72751449
>Goblin King

Why not go straight for the throat and say Krenko?

>> No.72751593

>>72751566
You need to stop buying high dollar cards if you can detect insider trading.

>> No.72751608

>>72751540
I dunno, banning morophon is pretty based.

>> No.72751618
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>>72751449
>mystical teachings
>vengevine
>morophon
>goblin king
>fucking MOAT

>> No.72751627
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>>72751449
>Goblin King

>> No.72751643

>>72751537
no one wants to play with fucking retards

>> No.72751667

>>72751449
based

>> No.72751701
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>>72751449
I can understand Cyclonic Rift, but the rest? What the fuck. Especially fucking Mystical Teachings and Goblin King
How? Why?

>> No.72751777
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72751777

>buying more copies of any non-rl card

LOL

>> No.72751780

>>72751627
>>72751701
git genocide has to start somewhere, why not with the kang?

>> No.72751795

>>72751701
I'm assuming it's a shop where the owners/management are entirely clueless about MTG and just made a single banlist for all formats based on whatever some 7 year old complained to his mom Karen about, who then asked the manager to ban it.
>some Vengevine modern deck stomps Karen's kid
VENGEVINE BANNED
>rift is still the king of craw EDH
CYCLONIC RIFT BANNED
>etc

>> No.72751856

>>72751507
>>72751618
Moat in Alela is pretty spicy

>> No.72751887

>>72751856
Yeah I'm planning on getting one too for my angels deck. My main question is, like, why ever ban any white card?

>> No.72751902

>>72751887
new players don't run removal

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Really wish this guy was better. It still stings.

>> No.72752161

>>72752102
i think greven is actually in a really good spot power wise. he makes use of a bunch of spicy cards and has real killing power while not being easy-bake bullshit.

>> No.72752192

>>72752102
What, eating Ball Lightning isn't good enough for you?

>> No.72752298

>>72752012
What’s in jhoira’s hands? I can’t make them out

>> No.72752330

>>72752298
shivan meteor and some bauble

>> No.72752389

is gA still around? I remember he used to post his judge foils and bad decks in here. I hope he's doing ok.

>> No.72752415
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72752415

>build a vaevictis deck where every card in the 99 is from arabian nights
>include a copy of city in a bottle

oh yeah i'm sure none of you would do this because you're all pussies tho huh

>> No.72752433

>>72751380
Proofs?

>> No.72752438
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>>72751449
>Goblin King
What do they have against David Bowie?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6DJmp21vcQ

>> No.72752472

>>72752415
Anon, I..

>> No.72752481

>>72752389
He hasn't been here in almost 4 years. I miss his decks named after stands.

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>>72752481
>decks named after stands.
How would I got about making a Za Warudo deck?

>> No.72752539

>>72751618
>muh buzzword

>> No.72752560

>>72752529
Derevi Stasis stax
Make time freeze then win out of nowhere with an infinite combo

>> No.72752566

>>72752529
Why, 5c split second and stack fuckery tribal of course. Use stuff like sundial of the infinite and that Almondcat version then some someone in the fucking jaw with Kenrith.

>> No.72752725
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>>72752529
every "end the turn" effect
also Mandate of Peace

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>>72752725
>tfw you play this against a splinter twin/kiki-combo

>> No.72752758

>>72752566
>that Almondcat version
?

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>>72752758

>> No.72752798

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/04-07-19-boros-soldiers/?cb=1590260857

Can someone check out my Boros soldier tribal? What am I missing in terms of essentials and fundamentals? My win con is to swarm my opponent with soldiers while slowly beefing them up.

>> No.72752851

>>72752529
Sundial with end the turn and red extra turn spells. Win con is either second sun or passing infinite turns with teferis protection

>> No.72752877

>>72752798
>boros
>aggro
>and tribal
there's not much I can say that would salvage the deck

>> No.72752938

>>72752877
>nooo you can't try strategies that I deem bad! Just because I know nothing about your meta or skill doesn't mean I can't immediately dismiss your deck idea.\

>> No.72752978

>Haven’t been able ti play EDH since Big Rona hit.

I miss it.

>> No.72753007

>>72752877
I mean, that doesn't help at all. I know its not going to be a great deck, I'm just looking to see how I can further push the deck's theme and win con because I'm not that good at magic and need some advice for the deck itself.

>> No.72753015
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>>72752798
>commander has haste and likes attacking
>little in the way of card draw
Tome of Legends is secretly the best Boros card released in years. Aside from that, I'd add in a bit more ways to protect your team from wipes, like Teferi's Protection or Flawless Maneuver if you can afford one. Heliod's Intervention is also great if your meta has a lot of artifacts and enchantments. I see you already have Vandalblast, but running both has worked out well for me in R/W/x decks.

>> No.72753035

>>72752938
>meta or skill
outed as craw
>>72753007
whats your budget

>> No.72753097

>>72752798
Your average CMC is way too high. I would cut 4-mana Elspeth, Nomad's Assembly, Darien, and Lena. And I would add more mana rocks, lower CMC the better. Boros Talisman, Arcane Signet, Mind Stone, Fellwar Stone, Thought Vessel, etc.

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>>72753035
Why do you reject my teachings?

>> No.72753132

>>72753007
>>72753035
also whats your meta like, how much interaction is there and how cheap is the interaction
i.e. do they run mana drain or cancel, natures claim or naturalize etc

>> No.72753148

>>72752298
Shivan Meteor and Stuffy Doll.

>> No.72753175

>>72753015
>Tome of Legends
I wasn't even aware of that card. I like Flawless Maneuver a lot. Protection is always good. Thank you!
>>72753035
I can afford $15 /$20 cards but buying lots of $30+ cards is too much for me.
>>72753097
I'll definitely give that a shot. I guess my problem is that I get too tempted to add what I think are powerful cards.

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>>72752798
To add to my comments in >>72753015: I see you're not running Blasphemous Act either. This seems like a shoe-in with how well it synergizes with your token generation and Tajic's damage prevention effect. Sure Tajic will die, but the rest of your army will survive.

>> No.72753263

>>72753132
My meta has a lot of wipes and enchantments. Early game tends to be fairly slow but mid game is very fast. Jeksai, Selesnya, Mono white and blue, and rakdos are pretty common in my meta.
>>72753197
Oh nice! To add onto that, is Tajic fine as a commander? I was thinking Aurelia or Gisela at first, but they're so expensive mana-wise and removal is so easy in edh.

>> No.72753267

>>72753175
Mana rock anon here
I understand the compulsion, friend. The problem with a lot of higher mana-cost cards is that you can't utilize them the same turn you cast them. So you spend your whole turn casting one card, and it did not impact the board much. And it might get removed before you can do anything with it.

You could consider adding Impact Tremors/Purphoros to get some use from all of your tokens, even if you don't get to attack with them. You could also include some board-wide haste sources.

>> No.72753281

>>72753263
I'll whip up my own list on tappedout and post it in a bit

>> No.72753312

>>72752481
man, that sucks. I took a long break and when I come back the comfy ask a judge threads are gone.

>> No.72753364

>>72753267
I appreciate the words of advice. That's definitely happened to me before, casting some nice expensive card only to see it die and do nothing. Impact Tremors sounds fun and goofy.
>>72753281
I'd love to check it out!

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>>72752798
>Remove
guildmage
basandra
souls attendant
aurelias fury
erase
response/resurge
vanquishers banner
coat of arms
glory of warfare
alliance of arms
launch the fleet
relentless assault
mobilization
>Add
Odric2.0
Selfless Spirit
Eldrazi displacer (if you can include more anus mana)
path to exile
oblation
rootborndefenses/flawless maneuver
mind's eye
akroma's memorial
radiant destiny
aggravated assault
austere command
hour of reckoning
waves of aggression

>> No.72753443

>>72753368
Hot damn, guess I have a lot of trash in the deck. Muchas gracias friend

>> No.72753492

>>72751777
Isn't most of the reserve list really shitty cards to begin with? Is rudy getting desperate because of corona-chan

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>>72753368
>oblation
Generous Gift or Chaos Warp are both better.

>> No.72753537

>>72753512
NAYRT but Oblation is okay in token decks because it can also provide you with card draw

>> No.72753543

>>72753512
neither of those can make you draw 2 cards

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>>72751449
Why is Goblin King banned?

It's a pretty basic tribal lord. Not really powerful though walk can be a bit swingy. It's not even the only lord with walk out there.

>> No.72753597

>>72753512
I dont think he's playing in a meta where instant speed land destruction is needed

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>>72751449
>Goblin King
>Banned

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Reminder to btfo furries by using this art.

>> No.72753674

>>72753580
I bet it’s just salty players still mad about Goblin tribal being THE thing in standard 15 years ago. Even Wotc has become anti goblin tribal.

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>>72752798
He doesn make soldiers himself but pic related is good in any deck that can run Skullclamp
His Meld is also VERY fun

>> No.72753710

>>72753656
>encouraging the furlolis
doesn't sound like a good idea

>> No.72753742

>>72753656
you're inviting the Tails & Friends audience with this card

>> No.72753744
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>>72751449
>Goblin King

>> No.72753750

>>72753710
The whats?

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>>72753750

>> No.72753802

>>72753770
Stop

>> No.72753954

>>72752798
>no Cathar's Crusade
>no Dawn of Hope
>no Mentor of the Meek

>> No.72753974

>>72753312
Welcome back brother, I'll give you a run down:
>threads are slightly lower quality because the mysticism of the format has been reduced to a series of flowcharts
>late night and autosage posting is still kino
>a lot of us are really bored and stagnant so we're running a little light on content
>dumbasses who don't know anything are still the first to reply, and now they act like smug cunts about it for elaborate purposes so you have to ignore ~ half the posts in each thread
Other than that stuff, it's basically the same as it ever was.

>> No.72753976

>>72753770
NO.

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>>72753770

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>>72753770

>> No.72754119

>>72753770
God fucking dammit.

>> No.72754151

>>72753770
based go on anon

>> No.72754385

>>72751449
My store banned Demonic Consultation, Tymna and Flash (before it was officially banned). Pretty reasonable honestly.

>> No.72754432

So according to Rudy Double Masters is going to have FoW, Mox Opal and the Urza Lands as reprints, among others. Not bad honestly.

>> No.72754524

>>72754432
You ready for the smug trannies celebrating over new force of will with no Nielsen art?

>> No.72754527

>>72754432
Rudy can slurp the waste from my garbage disposal like it was a tub of Ben & Jerry’s

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>>72754527
>he doesn't stay the course

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>>72753364
https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/boros-soldiers-for-anon/
It's very half-baked but there's a start.
Coming from my perspective I'm trying to find a way to make the deck do more powerful things than just playing soldiers and making them a bit bigger. Ideally by using the soldiers somehow.
What boros decks really need is some kind of engine, i.e. a way to generate cards with mana.
Things that were obvious changes:
>add more protection
>cut bad cards
As for cutting down stuff, aside from the soldiers you need to figure out what the deck does. As a word of advice the best thing Boros can do is find Sunforger use it as long as possible to generate resources.
A more casual thing you can do is Salvaging Station, it is hard to wrath you if you have Station+Bauble as you can draw a card for each creature that dies.
People that don't play enough will say this is not right but
>cut Smothering Tithe
If you're not playing a shitload of wheels the card does not do much in Boros, especially since you mentioned your meta is enchantment heavy, it'll just get removed before you get like, 3 treasures. If you want to play it play every reasonable Wheel of Fortune effect you can.
I'd find more lands that generate resources, you'll want to get those with Weathered Wayfarer.
Cut stuff you don't like, playtest until it's better. It took me a year to refine mono white to be playable and another year to master the deck. Boros is similar, you'll need to find the stuff you can add to the deck and refine the lines of play you can make. I can't really guess at what those are just from whipping up a decklist. That's your job now.

>> No.72754599

>>72754564
How did rudy get rich, he owns a restuarnt chain or sm

>> No.72754656

>>72752798
>What am I missing in terms of essentials and fundamentals?
If you really wanna push your colors to the maximum, you're gonna need the tutors such as:
• Gamble
• Enlightened tutor
• Recruiter of the Guard
• Imperial Recruiter
• Stoneforge Mystic
Other staples in your colors:
• Wheel of Fortune (or Reforged the Soul if you can't afford wheel)
• Dockside Extortionist
• Deflecting Swat
• Chaos Warp
• Aven Mindcensor
• Generous Gift
• Silence
Aside from that, you might wanna drop your 3 CMC mana rocks. I wouldn't run Gilded Lotus unless I had a way to untap it or some other way to abuse it. I suggest you run 7-9 pieces of ramp, especially if you have over 3 CMC average. Some other decent 2 CMC nad below mana rocks:
• Mana Crypt
• Chrome Mox
• Arcane Signet
• Talisman of Conviction
• Fellwar Stone
• Mindstone
• Thought Vessel
• Everflowing Chalice
• Prismatic Lens

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Alright time to see how much of a waste of money these are. The Curator hides an Coreset 21 pack and there’s a guilds pack in the cube.

Send me your energy and or curses.

>> No.72754708

>>72754432
Reminder that Rudy bought an assload of journey into nyx boxes intending to cash in on the god packs yet he struggles to sell them.

>> No.72754718

>>72754684
You shall crack a Doom Whisperer.

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>>72754684

>> No.72754741

>>72754590
This looks good, you seem to know your shit when it comes to white. Which white commander were you working on that you mentioned? I've also been working on perfecting white for a long time and I'd love to see what somebody else who likes the color has done.

>> No.72754746

>>72754684
inc foil swamp

>> No.72754797

>>72753512
Those are my two autoincludes

>> No.72754812

>>72754741
Yosei, I've posted many times. I haven't updated in a while but I'd add the white Courser and the 2/1 hawk from the last commander [product].
Currently disassembled because no one is playing here. It's a very good 75-80% deck.
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/a-good-mono-white-edh-deck/
Before you say "banned cards" who cares it's mono white. The banned cards are easily replaced by stuff in the side.

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>>72751449
Fuck goblin king desu

>> No.72755025

>>72754812
Looks like a good list, you seem to be using some similar stuff to me, I like the rectors, especially arena to get ugins/elspeth. Seems like you've got some nice combos and recursion too. Also I notice you use a lot of utility lands too. I'm not sure how I've not seen this list but I'm happy somebody else is working on this. I'm kinda confused tho, about your disdain of tithe, but you said you're planning on running hawk? Is there something about hawk I missed because it seems fairly mediocre to me. https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/23-01-20-cruel-angels-thesis/ This is my deck, which I've also posted a few times in case you were curious. I wasn't quite going as far into a sort of combo list and was just hoping to take a certain theme and make it good.

>> No.72755080

>>72754590
Oh shoot that deck looks really nice. Thanks for this anon! I'm honestly going to try to make my soldier deck look much more fluid. Of course, its up to me to ultimately make my deck usable and not just another useless deck, but I really do appreciate the help!
>>72754656
Ooof, I realized I have almost no tutors. I'll throw in more mana rocks too. That's been said more than once so at this point I believe its pretty dang important.

>> No.72755106

>>72754656
>My win con is to swarm my opponent with soldiers while slowly beefing them up.
The problem most token decks have is folding to a boardwipe usually, and Boros is pretty bad at catching back up. I personally suggest you run stax and hatebear cards to slow down your opponents so you can beat them in. This strategy makes your planeswalkers and passive token generators.

Here's my suggestion of stax and hate bear cards to run:
• Aven Mindcensor
• Linvala, Keeper of Silence
• Blood Moon (run a lot of basics, especially over lands that come in tapped like Temple of Triumph)
• Magus of the Moon
• Ruination
• Containment Priest
• Spirit of the Labyrinth
• Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
• Thalia, Heretic Cathar
• Deafening Silence
• Aura of Silence
• Blind Obedience
• Thorn of Amethyst

Other cards to consider:
• Faithless Looting, one of the best card filtering options in red.
• Pyroblast and Red Elemental Blast. There's always a blue player these are relevant against.
• Sevinne's Reclamation, works well with cards like Faithless Looting since it can be flashed back.
• Mother of Runes, great 1 CMC utility creature.
• Pyroclasm, incredibly good against weenie decks or decks that run a lot of mana dorks. Doubly so since Tajic blanks the damage on your own creatures.
• Blasphemous Act, kinda like a Pyroclasm 2.0, but deals with big things.
• Gideon Blackblade, he's a soldier that makes one of your attackers better every turn, and you can get him back with Sun Titan.
• Lightning Greaves. Generally better than Swiftfoot Boots.
• Land Tax, thins out your deck and helps you recover from MLD.
• Mask of Memory. One of the best card draw options in Boros outside of wheels and skullclamp.
• Captain Lannery Storm. She ramps on attack.
• Hanweir Battlements. A land that grants haste for a red mana
• Kor Haven. Can blank combat damage for 2 mana, which is sometimes relevant against decks like Yuriko.

>> No.72755200
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>>72754718
>>72754732
>>72754746
Close. A foil guild gate

Truly a pile.

>> No.72755223

>>72755200
>the dual land is in italian
oof

>> No.72755253

>>72751537
Yeah, why? What happened that someone got butthurt over?
I mean, he’s interesting in his own way, colored cost reductions are rare, but he seems too dumb to make into an obnoxious card.

I can only imagine someone hates tribal decks, which is fine.

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>>72755025
Hawk seems fine on paper, Boreal Charger did as well and after testing it was ass, but the Hawk will be tried. Reason why is that all the deck needs is lands to function, so any way to ramp is good. That said EDH players are so shit I outramp green decks somehow so my ramp cards get deactivated.
I won't blame you for not understanding choices in my deck though if you are confused, it's really difficult to play. I took a 3 month break and lost an unloseable game because I didn't remember how to play it. It's one of the purest control experiences you can get in EDH where you have to eek out an advantage with each play you make. Normally with control like 5c Niv you can just shit card advantage all over the table and they can't do anything about it and you can play sloppily and win.
I'd like to get down a write a really in-depth primer so maybe people could understand how difficult it is to play especially since people just see mono 6cmc wraths which is kind of true.

I've seen you post your deck, aside from the theme of Angels being bad it looks ok? I'd leverage wraths more. Planar Cleansing and Akroma's Vengeance should be in there. You have time to cast 6cmc wraths in white. The reason I don't have many rocks is for that reason, they just get wiped and lose me a card.
>Disdain of Tithe
It's a great card but it's especially bad in mono white. It trades 1 for 1 without going mana positive every game. You can't be 1 for 1 trading in mono white like that because you don't even have something mediocre draw like Tidings available. I hope that makes sense.
Hall of Heliod isn't great, I'd find a different land. It blanks your draws since you're not getting deeper into your deck and you're not getting anything great back. Blast Zone/Dust Bowl.
Try and add more tutors. Even bad ones are ok if they get something good. Djeru comes to mind in my deck.

Hard for me to make more specific comments without knowing your meta.

>> No.72755347

>>72752746
Why not just play blind obedience?
One of these two actually stops the combo the other just buys you one turn

>> No.72755372

>>72753744
That's a man

>> No.72755384

>>72755223
thats french, Italian is more SCORZACI

>> No.72755386

>>72755347
Or rakdos charm
or bolt
even shock

>> No.72755449

>>72755342
That makes sense. It looks like a neat deck and I can understand wanting to test cards I tend to have the same experience with ramp too lol I originally included hall purely because of important cards like tithe, but it has been on the chopping block to replace with a basic for awhile. You mention tutors but really what other tutors could I run? All I can think of is really just steelshaper's gift. As for more wraths yeah I should probably re add akroma's vengeance and planar cleansing. Not sure what I would cut for these tho. That's always my problem with this deck. I want to keep the angels theme as much as I can but, like, they're fairly suboptimal choices compared to what I could add and always come up when it comes to making cuts. I see your point about tithe, it's definitely run me some games, but it's also quite the target for removal, and an absolute dead draw late game. I might consider cutting it, that makes sense.

>> No.72755464

>>72755106
Here's my suggestion of cards to cut in your deck:
• Basandra, Battle Seraph, she doesn't do much and opponents can just remove stuff on your main phase.
• Burnished Hart. Too slow of a ramp card.
• Darien, King of Kjeldor. Requires you actually taking damage.
• Daru Warchief. Ballyrush Banneret does its job better for cheaper, although it doesn't have a buff.
• Firemane Avenger. This isn't even that good, even in a token deck. If you want constant removal on a creature, I suggest Intrepid Hero.
• Gisela, Blade of Goldnight. I'd run Elesh Norn over her personally, since Elesh affects the board as she hits the field.
• Soul's Attendant. You're not a lifegain deck.
• Sunhome Guildmage. Those mana dump options are terrible.
• Elspeth Tirel. One of the worst Elspeths.
• Aurelia's Fury. You don't have enough mana generally to dump into this, Pyroclasm or Blasphemous Act are better boardwipes. Grand Abolisher or Silence are better to stop opponents from doing things on your turn.
• Deflecting Palm. Pretty bad unless someone hits you for 30+ damage.
• Erase. Hits only enchantments, not good at all unless you have an enchantment heavy meta.
• Master Warcraft. Odric, Master Tactician does this on a stick basically.
• Return to Dust. I think Heliod's Intervention is better than this personally, especially if you have 4 or more mana.
• Coat of Arms, Crescendo of War, and Glory of Warfare. Shared Animosity does a similar job for a cheaper mana cost. They're also "win-more" cards that do little without a board.
• Hand to Hand. Grand Abolisher is probably better.
• War's Toll. If you're running 4 CMC stax-esque cards, Stranglehold is probably better.
• Akroma's Vengeance. Pretty costly at 6 CMC, and it's likely to set you back more than other color decks.
• Conqueror's Pledge. Just a worst less-flexible Finale of Glory.
• Launch the Fleet, and Nomads' Assembly. Win-more cards and they don't do anything if you don't have a board.

>> No.72755486

>>72751194
Force of will is valuable? I have one of those I got for a nickel back in the mid 2000's

>> No.72755511

>>72755486
Obvious bait

>> No.72755526

>>72755347
They won't even attempt a Kiki combo if you have Blind Obedience out. Plus, Mandate of Peace stops alpha strikes from things like Craterhoof anyway. The rest of the table should probably be against the guy with the combo out after they attempted it anyway. Blind Obedience is pretty decent though.
>>72755386
I'd run Rakdos Charm if I was in those colors.

>> No.72755554

>>72755486
All nazi cards are worthless.
Burn it.

>> No.72755573

>>72755223
>calling french italian
Must be bliss to be an american

>> No.72755604

>>72755449
I'm not sure, Steelshapers and Open the Armory (maybe Thalia's Lancers?) are probably the best tutors you can make use of. My point about tutors was that even if it seems mediocre, if it gets your best cards it's worth playing, keep your eye out for future ones. As a hypothetical assuming Armageddon is your best card, you'd play a 5 or 6 mana tutor for it.
Maybe you've tested it but you can get Fall of the Thran with Enlightened and Idyllic. Wasn't good enough in my deck but my deck doesn't explicitly have space for Armageddon whereas yours does. The closest playable one for me is Catastrophe.

>> No.72755615

>>72755573
Who cares? they're all foreign novelty languages anyway.

>> No.72755641

>>72755604
You get Fall with Academy Rector anon

>> No.72755650

>>72755615
This. They'll be dead in a century or two

>> No.72755668

Who would be the best jeskai spellslinger commander? Probably narset? Anything less boring than that?

>> No.72755694

>>72755342
>It's a great card but it's especially bad in mono white. It trades 1 for 1 without going mana positive every game.
Depends on your meta I suppose. In the games I play, it usually sticks around for a turn rotation or two, and it usually nets mana positive due to Mystic Remora, Rhystic Study, Mindblade Render, or Oakhame Adversary being on the field.

>> No.72755696

>>72755641
You can also get it with Ring of Three wishes.
The mans deck doesn't have Rector or Ring so I didn't mention either.
>>72755668
Kykar is the best, Elsha is good, others are worse so pick whatever is fun.

>> No.72755716

>>72755604
Oh yeah I was kinda thinking of fall, tho giving people stuff back definitely feels kinda bad, since the main reason I'm running geddon is to keep my stuff while depriving others. I might actually add gift because I've got a pretty strong equipment subtheme. And yeah I definitely understand the tutors point, I try to run as many that I really can because tutors are really useful for helping to assemble my engines and stuff.

>> No.72755721

>>72755668
I would say Kykar is better than Narset. You generate mana while storming off.
Secret tech is using spirits with stax-like effects so you can shut them off at will. Spirit of the Labyrinth and Eidolon of Rhetoric, for example.

>> No.72755725

>>72755668
Probably Kykar, Wind's Fury or Elsha of the Infinite. Narset's better for extra turns or superfriends.

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>>72752389
I miss you edh stands man

>> No.72755770

>>72755464
Oh yeah, and cut the non-basic lands that come in tapped (except for Clifftop Retreat, fastlands, shocklands, etc that can come in untapped). You want fast mana generally, and replace them with basics if you plan to run Blood Moon and Ruination.

>> No.72755771

>playing with friend
>beating his ass
>deliberately missplay to try and give him an edge, feel super bad, still win
>not the first time this happens
How do you downgrade a super casual deck? Like general things such as less removal or ramp or what. Are timmy ramp brews truly the terror of craw tables? Do I have to build greenless? I just want everyone to have fun.

>> No.72755797

>>72755694
I feel like if you're playing mono white against decks playing cards like those Tithe won't save you. But yes in my meta people will Nature's Claim that shit immediately.
>>72755716
Yeah Fall isn't great but you can get it more consistently. Maybe you just run another 'geddon if you really need one but without playtesting I can't tell if you find one consistently enough or not. You know this more than I do.
Only other advice I have is maybe find room for Hedron Archive.
>>72755771
Look at precons. Like 3 ramp spells total for an average cmc of 7, bad mana, 3 removal spells that all suck. But really sick theme cards!111

>> No.72755873

>>72755797
Hedron archive you say? I had kinda dismissed it as a 4 mana rock, but I assume it's doing really well for you? Also definitely might try out fall just to see, I'm able to decently often get geddon but a fetchable geddon (that I can do every few turns if I have a hall) might be neat.

>> No.72755877

>>72755771
What are you playing, and what is he playing? The best bet might be to gift him some singles to tune up his deck.

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>>72755797
>I feel like if you're playing mono white against decks playing cards like those Tithe won't save you. But yes in my meta people will Nature's Claim that shit immediately.
I'm playing sun man with a crossbow so I have a shot.

>> No.72755923

>>72755615
>>72755650
burgers really are a sight to behold

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>>72755573
>>72755923
what language are you typing in?

>> No.72756004

>>72751449
>vengevine
>morophon
>goblin king
>teachings
???????

>> No.72756018

>>72755873
Your average cmc is way lower but I play it because I can crack it before a wrath so it still does something. Mono white generally has time to be a bit slower as I mentioned (though not too slow, I think Iactivate Arch of Orazca once every 7 games but couldn't find a better land to replace it). Mono white really needs a lot of testing. If it seems mildly ok proxy the card and run it for some games and see if it makes sense. Developing the intuition for it depends on the deck and meta, I have a pretty good intuition for my deck.
A bit unrelated, I'll try and write a primer for Yosei tomorrow and post the decklink here again. Maybe you'll see it and get inspiration from how the deck works.
>>72755891
I guess. I haven't played comp with mono white ever so I wouldn't know how often my shit gets removed at that table. Other stuff might be more important. Also more wheels exist there so it means they can't really fire them off willy nilly.

>> No.72756022

>>72751000
>guy consistently brings cancer to a table full of new players
>steps it up, bringing a optimized krenko deck worth thousands of dollars to my friends playing with precons.
>friend complains
>next time we play I bring grenzo doomsday
>guy doesn't know how to stop it
>2 of 5 games go by of me zealous conscripting his ass and conceding right afterward saying I forgot to declare attackers on my friends
>"that shit's unfair"

>> No.72756065

>>72755696
Yet you mentioned Armageddon, Catastrophe, and Fall.

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>pay 5 dollars with shipping included for a damaged sword of the meek
>this is it
Tcgplayer some hard asses

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>>72753656
I have this one and i love it to bits.
I wouldn’t mind you winning with it and i say it as a furry. Andrea radeck is GREAT

>> No.72756123

>>72756018
That sounds good, I've been personally having lots of success with this deck in my meta, but I just can't ignore that urge to improve it you know? And I look forward to that Yosei primer, as I said it's always nice to hear the experiences of other people trying to make white work here. I had kinda immediately dismissed fall, but it definitely sounds like it might be more useful than I thought so I'll probably try it out. Thank you for the advice. Also might try swapping out tithe, as my playgroup is starting to learn to always immediately kill tithe.

>> No.72756234

>>72752798
a little bit late but I once tried to build og tajic as soldier tribal. The deck was an early draft when I began edh and I ended up never buying it but I still have the list. So here some recommendations:

board wipe protection: teferis protection, cheaper alternatives: rootborn defenses and unbreakable formation
legions initiative

if you want to stick to the soldier theme:
Ballyrush Banneret, makes soldier spells cheaper
tocatil honour guard, soldier hatebear
Archetype of Courage, soldier with buff
field marshal, soldier with anthem and buff
Gideon's Avenger, can grow very large depenant of you opponents
preeminent captain, puts soldier into play tapped and attacking
Ranger of Eos, fetches two one drops
kalamnes captain, can be activated to destroy enchantsments ans artifacts
catapult master, repeatable but expensive removal

Mobilization, mana sink
Infiltration Lens, occaisonal card draw
lands:
sunhome fortress
daru encampment
legions landing, gives you a token, potentially can ramp you and serve as a token maker

cut:
Akroan horse: it gives you a soldier but two other opponents blockers
soul's attendant, does nothing for your game plan
deflecting palm, same as above but is debatable
hand to hand, too narrow of an effect
crescendo of war, a bit slow and also buffs you opponents attacking creatures
Akroma's Vengeance can maybe be replaced with austere command depending on the cmc you end up with

the other anons gave you pretty sound advice so far. Godspeed anon

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>>72756022
That's one of the best feelings, good job anon. I run Teferi and use it pretty regularly at a different playgroup; it's absolutely hilarious when someone is playing a pubstomp deck thinks they're hot shit.

>> No.72756270

>>72756237
Doing god's work anon.

>> No.72756271

>>72756123
Yeah you can make it better. The angels are pretty tight as a package of sorts so you have leeway to change the other cards, unless you want to run those as well. Without overly explaining Yosei almost every engine in the deck weaves into another engine, so you could try and figure out how to do that.
My deck is very uncompromising, if it's good I'll run it and if it's bad it gets cut, so I can have a bit of a tighter deck.

>> No.72756356

>>72756271
Yeah that's kinda what I try to do, with a bunch of layered engines with multiple tutors for each other. Which also kinda makes cuts rough. I can definitely understand that "if it's bad remove it" thing too, and I've been partially considering removing the angel tribal theme entirely, and making my planned Sigarda deck into my angel deck, and kinda doing something similar with just using Avacyn as a good white deck.

>> No.72756419

>>72755797
That could be a good idea. That one with the guy who makes rhino tokens looks decently fun.
>>72755877
He plays Narset and Teysa. I play "only one" deck which is an assortment of my stompy cards, so I rotate between Xenagod, Ghalta, Ruric Thar, Maelstrom Wanderer, Zegana, and more. I already gave him some stuff and advice but didn't help much.

>> No.72756450

>>72756419
Build literally any other deck you dip. You're building a big derp deck that goes tall and he doesn't know how to deal with it. Try something new.

>> No.72756452
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This nigga is fun like you wouldn't believe
>i make new snake

>> No.72756465

>>72755993
I'm gonna let you get off this one unharmed since that pic is bretty hilarious

>> No.72756489

>>72756356
I legitimately cannot recommend mono white for the amount of time needed to figure it out, do so at your own peril. Maybe my primer will help if you're hellbent. I'll try and post it in a fresh thread so maybe two or three threads over.
Boros Gerrard is basically the same deck but is way faster and probably easier. You can play it like my Yosei and go slow or go faster with combos.
>>72756419
>I rotate between Xenagod, Ghalta, Ruric Thar, Maelstrom Wanderer, Zegana
seems like you having ramp is probably the problem yeah
Build rhino tribal or something. Just assemble cool cards your timmy heart wants to play but your sensible brain doesnt allow.

>> No.72756504

>>72756452
Its posts like this that make me regret the mardu deck.
The temur and sultai deck are so much more fun to play.
The sultai especially.

>> No.72756506

>>72754432
I can finally get Karn Liberated for $20 each

>> No.72756527

>>72756489
Well I've been playing and working on this deck for a couple years, and I've been playing since Innistrad so I can definitely understand the problems with white, don't worry. I just like hearing what others have to say, and always love improving my deck and myself.

>> No.72756604

>>72754385
That's a pretty decent banlist addition actually, but what about Thrasios, and Thassa's Oracle + Tainted Pact?

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>>72752529
My zurgo helmsmasher Deck is called notorious BIG I'm actually working on a YouTube video comparing my decks to Jojo stands it's the most autistic thing I'll be doing tonight

>> No.72756660

>>72756450
>>72756489
Yeah that's gotta be it. What's a fun janky build for a timmyholic? That new snekusar looks cool, with more mass draw than wheels. I've also always liked Dragonlord ojutai's art, any Ojutai anons?

>> No.72756675

>>72752785
Human: I regret nothing
Goat Man: I regret everything

>> No.72756696

>>72756660
Ojutai can be kind of unfair to new players if you build him properly, you just have answers and ways to untap him and you cant kill it.
Snekusar maybe, build snakes or something who knows. The less you force them do stuff the better I think as new players get annoyed by being told they need to do x.

>> No.72756721

Is Kambal hatebears, fun?

>> No.72756753

>>72756721
Of course not. It isn't supposed to be.

>> No.72756771

>>72754564
>Dat vector kriss
Fuck. I need to start peddling MtG cards.

>> No.72756780

>>72756721
Not really but its ok. Play Kambal Ad Naus instead

>> No.72756781

>>72751566
>>72751380
The thing both of your are forgetting is
Demand>supply when it comes to matter for prices. Goyf was super expensive, got reprinted 3 times and was fairly stable but then demand shifted away and now there like what, $50?

>> No.72756792

>>72754564
what's the story behind this?

>> No.72756803

>>72756753
>>72756780
What about Obosh hate-burn

>> No.72756817

>>72751449
Betcha I can name the LGS owners top 5 personally hated cards.

>> No.72756865

>>72756660
If you still like Gruul, wort is fun. Also sounds like you don't run a lot of combos, try something elaborate, slow and fragile. If I had to recommend something, especially to use against a new player, I'd probably pick Wrexial. It's lorge, shitty and fancy, but most of all you can build it pretty mediocre

>> No.72756887

>>72751449
If I owned a store, I do the same thing. Every week hang a different banlist up with 1 devisive card like rift or sol ring and the literally other random rares. And then not enforce it at all unless someone asks me about it, and then enforce it only to that individual.

>> No.72756896

>>72756504
Is sultai mutate fun? I feel like I'd just be playing bad volrath

>> No.72756907

>>72756771
Is that a real picture? Rudy has never talked about any gun ownership in any capacity.
That dudes a literally mobster.

>> No.72756959

>>72756896
I've never played volrath so I don't know how good that is, but I played it at a reasonably high table and won a match out of 3.
I've played all the precons besides abzan, and I enjoyed it the most, and it played the strongest.

>> No.72757055

>>72756959
Is it actually fun? Been debating between nethroi and brokkos

>> No.72757060

>>72756959
>>72756896
Also the jeskai one might have the best singles, but it plays like dogshit.
If you get that one, plan to upgrade it, because the cards around the good ones are almost unplayable.

>> No.72757077

>>72755342
Hawk is actually pretty good in non-green decks but boreal was ass. You pay three Mana and hope something happens while hawk is 2 Mana, Wait a turn, get a land, 2 Mana, wait a turn, get a land.
Slow, but basic is a cultivate every other turn which is not terrible

>> No.72757090

Rudy used to be a financial advisor and wall street trader. He's set for life and does card game shit for fun

>> No.72757108

>>72756696
>>72756865
Good suggestions anons, thanks. Though I might just go and buy the Ydris 2016 precon, looks like the most random shit ever.

>> No.72757133

>>72756907
Its a deleted video

>> No.72757140

>>72756803
Seems fine as companion to Xantcha

>> No.72757145

>>72757055
Had a lot of fun with it actually. Double draw triggers of mutating otrimi onto cold eye selkie is really good. Even if you're not drawing a lot of cards, you're basically drawing a card from your graveyard if you hit them with otrimi each turn. Mutating a big stack onto predator ooze makes you feel like a god, and people really under estimate how good mutating onto another solo mutate creature and getting 2 triggers is.
Only problem is, if you ever end up in first place, you'll probably get btfo, because everyone will just exile you and board wipe to death

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>>72756234
>kalamnes captain
for 12 mana this shit should have been one-sided

>> No.72757175

>>72757055
>>72757145
Nethroi looks pretty cool too, Brokos would probably play the same, but you might need the extra gas from otrimi's ability if you're doing all mutate

>> No.72757210

>>72756604
Thrassios and Tainted Pact are also banned, but Oracle isn't.

>> No.72757223

>>72757108
To be completely honest, Ydris storm is one of the finest decks in the format when tuned, beware of the slippery slope.

>> No.72757224

>>72757133
Do you know what it was about? He was just doing like a walkthrough of his collection?

>> No.72757262

>>72756114
lots of stores are very generous with grading because returns are such a hassle. i've bought so many damaged cards that look brand new.

>>72756452
>anon only speaks in memes
legitimately depressing

>>72757133
i wish they all were

>>72757090
>does card game shit for fun
he does it for attention clearly

>> No.72757283

>>72757223
I see. Well the idea would be not to touch it to remain in the precon level, I'll be careful

>> No.72757284

>>72757163
Only blue gets 7 mana instant speed one-sided boardwipes anon

>> No.72757300

>>72757163
god I read it as 5 mana for the activation ability when I posted it. Not really that convincing thinking about it again.

>> No.72757309

>>72757224
I dont remeber, he juat tapks about it in a few other of his videos. Something about not wanting to trigger people during a rash of shootings or something. Its in one of his Q&As

>> No.72757343

>>72757300
The only good card to come out of Wade Into Battle was Magus of the Wheel

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>>72757343

>> No.72757421

>>72757408
Not him.
Those are dogshit lmao, even magus is dogshit

>> No.72757431

>>72757408
Is it just me or is reclaimer really large?

>> No.72757454

>>72757421
Fiery Confluence was used in Legacy as a 4-of IIRC
The Angel is a perfectly EDH card

>> No.72757458

>>72757421
magus and fc are top notch. i don't know what this shit angel is about tho.

>> No.72757510

>>72757431
she could be Segovian for all we know. The image doesn't really give a scale reference except for very distant mountains

>> No.72757516

>>72757431
Wade into battle was all about those big butts

>> No.72757532

>>72756504

just buy singles

>> No.72757534
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72757534

So, I am thinking of doing a variant of a 32 challenge by creating a power 32. Basically take the strongest general of each color combo and making it as the strongest archetype. This seems an easy thing to netdeck. The only thing I am struggling with is how to measure, with any objectivity, the strongest decks of each color combination.

Do you guys have any suggestions?

>> No.72757554

>>72752785
The only reason I see anyone playing that without Sundial is purely cause they're sick of playing against a Blue deck and want to throw the game.

>> No.72757566

>>72757554
or they have Angel's Grace

>> No.72757577

>>72757534
why?

>> No.72757583

>>72752785
perfect use of the artist's talents

>> No.72757584

>>72757532
There's enough new cards in them because they're tied to the new set that buying singles would be more expensive unfortunately

>> No.72757625

>build grismold
>he's bad varchild

>> No.72757641

>>72757625
>he's in the better colors

>> No.72757671

Tell me something probably obvious:
Medallions are ideal for mono color decks, granted you aren’t trying to do some ‘colored pips only’ business, right?

I’m about to pull the trigger on a Jet Medallion. I’ll have the red and white ones, and like tooling around in Mardu colors, I’ll use it regardless

>> No.72757724

>>72757641
>they made him in 2 better colors
>still somehow 3x worse

>> No.72757793

>>72757671
medallions are for storming off
without seeing a list I would suggest getting the diamonds first

>> No.72757794

>>72757671
they are good for mono colors yes. they can be good in two color decks occasionally if you are drawing lots of cards and trying to cast spells rapid fire. the more artifacts in your deck the worse they are obviously.

>> No.72757826

>>72757671
As>>72757794
Said.
They're great in mono color, because they essentially tap for 2 if you cast 2 spells in a turn.
I dont think they're worth in 2 colors or more

>> No.72758042

>>72755993
He's typing in lowest common denominator

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>72757262
>i wish they all were
>he does it for attention clearly
jealous much mtglion?

>> No.72758285

>>72757826
>>72757794
I meant it’ll get use, I like exploring color variations in mardu. I would be hesitant to put them in a full Mardu deck anyway, unless I have high concentration of multicolor spells with generic costs.

>> No.72758315

Notice how quiet and reasonable this thread is? Look at the other magic general. I wonder where our cretins come from

>> No.72758330

Don’t reply to this post if you haven’t preordered double masters.

>> No.72758366

>>72757793
In my deck that unironically tries to storm off, they wouldn’t help. Key spells are 1cmc and I have Altars to recoup mana.

I already have the red and white ones for mono R decks and Feather, good spells are usually 1R or 1W, so it’s cool.

>> No.72758434

Where can I see the leaks?

>> No.72758560

>>72758315
We were full of namefags like 2 days ago, there is nothing good about us

>> No.72758644

>>72758560
We were? Shit I just use anonymizer, all I saw were a BUNCH of really low quality posts.

>> No.72758742

>>72758434
there is this guy >>72753472
but just a random post on the internet, take it with a grain of salt

>> No.72758980

>>72758742
>tron land reprints
How disgusting but intriguing. Considering the blow of no fetchlands, is this wotc’s idea of a sort of consolation prize?

>> No.72759028

>>72758742
>random post
>email made in February far before Double Masters was even made public and people thought Masters sets would take a hiatus equal to that of Core sets, and not only knew the set name but how rarities of said set would work and correctly guessed 2 of the publicly known cards in the set
>Somehow this is "just a random post"

>> No.72759126

No you wouldnt

>> No.72759209

>>72751856
I want one so fucking bad

>> No.72759285

>>72757055
my brother made a nethroi and the GB companian deck, all creatures. Its aristocrats and everything he ever wanted it to be. It plays similarly to a muldrotha deck he had before but he hated how blatantly aids it was. The creature restriction really kept the power level in check. Probably not the response you were looking for but I enjoy nethroi.

>> No.72759385

>>72757454
>was used
>in legacy
Maybe in the past but legacy is a rotating format now

>> No.72759443
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>people already playing their ikoria and c20 cards
>here all mtg products are on a delay and im still forced to be at home
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA ITS NOT FAAAAAAAAIRRRR

>> No.72759452

>>72759443
Thanks for your purchases, goy.

>> No.72759461

>>72759443
Where are you? I'm in US, my state opened up and my LGS is open for business but I'm not going out yet.

>> No.72759536
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72759536

>>72759461
Yurop. Something happened here and now all mtg deliveries are delayed even if technically stores will open next week.

>> No.72759548

>>72759536
Sorry yurobro, hang in there

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72759590

How do I get out of the craw-trap I keep gravitating to big stupid stompy commanders. help.

>> No.72759621
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>>72759590
Play something that doesn't look stompy but secretly is as a transitional aid

>> No.72759747

>>72759548
Thanks dude. Hopefully everything will turn out fine.
On another note. How’s that RWB precon? It has some spicy singles but the commanders are godawful AND boring

>> No.72759857

ban cyclonic rift

>> No.72759882

>>72759857
Talk it with your group

>> No.72759906

>>72759747
Not him
But it plays awful out of the box

>> No.72759932

>>72759857
reprint cyclonic rift

>> No.72759959

>>72759906
Yeah i imagine it would. I was talking more about the exclusives like verge rangers and those polymorph buddies

>> No.72759986

>>72759932
Reprint EVERYTHING

>> No.72760037
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72760037

Isperia, supreme judge. Lots of forcing creatures to attack and fogs, controlling combat. I’ve got card draw covered.
I forgot to think about how to actually win the game. Is it just getting there with flying beaters?

>> No.72760094
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>>72760037
>Lots of forcing creatures to attack and fogs, controlling combat
why aren't you playing the giant glowing quadrilateral then?

>> No.72760101

>>72760037
Divine Intervention

>> No.72760149

>>72759857
Put cyclonic rift in every precon. Ban Xenagos and smothering tithe.

>> No.72760163

>>72760094
Because I’m autistic and want to make a deck in each color combo. Red does have way more and better ways to force combat, but I was just trying to maximize isperia’s card draw ability.

>> No.72760191

>>72760163
gotcha. well i've always found ghostly flicker and naru meha to be a reliable win-con in the colors

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72760231

>>72751449
>playing edh at a lgs

>> No.72760631

>>72751586
what reverse image search do you use?

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>>72760231
>one lgs MIGHT start allowing in-store play
>next week

>> No.72760790
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72760790

Besides the obvious deathtouch stuff, what's some spiciness for this boi so I can wipe out all of those filthy monsters?

>> No.72760791

>>72760037
>I forgot to think about how to actually win the game
Always. Pick. Your. Wincon. First.

>> No.72760824

>>72760790
Goblin Sharpshooter and Horobi

>> No.72760826

>>72760791
>always pick your commander first
Got it

>> No.72760895

>>72760826
You can choose to be bad, that's entirely up to you. Just don't bitch here when you get hilariously blown out every game and need to make up green texts to soothe the red rectal ring of rage.

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>>72760895
>nooooo you can't just choose thrasios and tymna without a wincon

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>>72751449
I went to a store that had Tormod banned and a limit on counterspells once

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>>72760231
>tfw been playing with my group every other week since we're on admin leave the same time
Haven't gotten all the upgrades for Xyris yet but I only needed minimal changes for Jirina so she'll be ready for next session

>> No.72760987

>>72760908
You sure can? You just forfeit the right to complain and get sympathy if you do something dumb with warning, knowing you're going to get a dumb prize. It's like the stairs; you can walk up and down just fine but if you go down two at a time and chip your teeth, you have only yourself to blame.

>> No.72761055

>>72760987
>you picked najeela? HAVE FUN CHIPPING YOUR TEETH AND LOSING

>> No.72761071

>>72760791
Stop. Nobody cares how "big brained" you think you are, and this isn't useful advice. People pick commanders they want to play and choose wincons around them.

>> No.72761107

>>72760917
>Tormod banned

...why?

>> No.72761130

Why did Bralin have to be a god damn ugly mongol looking fuck

>> No.72761146

>>72756504
>playing the mardu deck out of the box
Just run Kelsien bro, he's the most fun one.

>> No.72761157

>>72761055
>being so bad at posting you fuck up basedjacks twice
I think it's time to take a break, the bar is pretty low here hombre. Najeela is a fine commander.

>>72761071
>understanding the easiest part of the format is "big brained"
Nah. Pick your wincon first anon, it's really not hard, or you end up with Mizzix reanimator.

>> No.72761170

>>72761146
I fell for the think with your dick meme, so I play the partners.

>> No.72761172

>>72761107
Dunno guess graveyard decks were popular there and they didnt like the idea of a free hate card that could go in any deck they also had a pretty big list with other shit on it like almost all mld, stax cards,extra turn spells etc basically just take that salt list that gets posted sometimes and throw a few random popular archetype hosers onto it and that was the list

>> No.72761175

>>72761130
All the new precon commanders are ugly

Yes, even the new Mardu women

>> No.72761183

>>72761157
No? If I'm picking mizzix I'm going to make a mizzix deck. I'm not looking to make a reanimator deck, but if I wanted to play Mizzix I would make a mizzix deck and choose a better commander for reanimator that I prefer otherwise. Like Karador or something.

>> No.72761185

>>72761170
But...she's not even that cute

>> No.72761200

>>72761157
>BRO YOURE STUPID, DONT COME HERE. DO THINGS MY WAY, lol calm down bro picking your commander first is fine if its najeela

>> No.72761213

>>72761185
Yeah, but I don't really have any other cute blonde commanders to pick from, do I.

>> No.72761239

>>72761183
That's my point, you fundamentally understand which cards go together, what strategies they enable, and how to win with those strategies. If you don't have all that information, pick your wincon and work backwards. It's the easiest part of the deck.

>> No.72761241

>>72761172
weird because Tormod's isn't even THAT great.

>>72761213
Thalia?

>> No.72761260

>>72761241
True, but then my decks probably gonna be worse than the mardu precon.
I'm not sure if there's enough monowhite hate pieces to let me win

>> No.72761263

>>72761185
>she
guess again!

>> No.72761267

>>72761260
Hanna is a good deck

>> No.72761280

>>72761267
Oh. I forgot about hannah. That sounds cool

>> No.72761281

>>72761200
You're misunderstanding how to shitpost. You should phrase my argument in a dismissive way while looking smug, otherwise you're just pissing in the wind. For example, my point was you can play what you want, you just can't bitch if it predictably sucks. From here you could talk about the opposite, something predictably good that you're bitching about, or imply I don't understand what is good, and therefore don't have the right to bitch.

>> No.72761288

Apparently commander legends will have the "green sorcery" magus. The others in this cycle are Maguses that represent Balance, Mind's Desire, Wheel of Fortune, and Yawgmoth's Will.
So whats the green one going to be?

>> No.72761298

>>72761281
>no no no. My way.

>> No.72761323

>>72761288
Please make it magus of the channel.

>> No.72761324

>>72761288
Hmm.

Maybe a “fixed” fast bond? Something like Rofellos?

>> No.72761330

>>72761288
scapeshift would be cool

>> No.72761337
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72761337

I'm looking to fine tune my Goreclaw a little. I want to make it a bit faster, but really don't like the lack of synergy between Goreclaw and most Manadorks. Does anyone have some advice? Generally the deck turns on around turn 3 and goes for a kill around turn 5-8. However this requires Goreclaw stays out, but there are plenty of ways to do that.

>https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/big-bear-hours/?cat=tcg_avg_price&sort=name&cb=1590176967

This deck was also designed to be a bit braindead Timmy hours.

>> No.72761345

>>72761323
>hulk dominates the format again.

>> No.72761364

>>72761288
BIORHYTHEM

>> No.72761366

>>72761345
Wut? Why?

>> No.72761373

>>72761337
if you want it to go faster you should cut all your three-mana ramp spells for one or two mana ramp spells. that way you can use them to cast goreclaw on turn 3

>> No.72761397

>>72761366
Yeah never mind. You could just tutor for the creatures and play them outright with hasted channel amount of mana

>> No.72761400

>>72752978
You can use Cockatrice to play it online if you want.

>> No.72761401

>>72761337
Listen to >>72761373.
Three mana ramp spells are outdated and mostly suck.

>> No.72761412

>>72761373
Yeah, that really does make sense. I need to look into 1-2 mana ramp. I want to keep in Tempt with Discovery just to grab the three most important lands, but it does share a spot with Goreclaw mana-wise.

Also, for reference, Sol Ring is not in the deck because my local group is trying out a ban list that keeps out 0-1 CMC artifact ramp (generically, but there are some exceptions).

>> No.72761506

How's Ruric Thar?

>> No.72761535

Give it to me straight, is aristocrats fun?

>> No.72761554
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>>72761506
I AM DOING WELL!
NO WE ARE DOING BAD!
SHUT YOUR MOUTH RURIC!
NO THAR, EVERYTHING IS BAD! NEW RAVNICA SUCK AND ILHARG DEAD!
WE ARE DOING BAD THEN!

>> No.72761577

>>72761535
No. It's the gitrog syndrome.
>play thing
>sac thing
>play thing
>sac thing
Until you draw into the card that does damage when you play thing sac thing and ask if it resolves.

>> No.72761611

>>72761535
Eh, kind of. If it's really tutor intensive it'll be okay because you can throw together fast complicated lines and negotiate them very effectively. But usually your lines will look like:
>enabler (Butcher Ghoul)
>outlet (Yawgmoth)
>payoff (Blood Artist/Zulaport Cutthroat)

>> No.72761639
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>>72761412
you could run pic related. also the one-mana enchantments that make lands tap for two are underrated imo

>> No.72761682
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>>72761639
Vintage cuuuuuube tech. Better futuresight and Oracle of Mul Daya are also underrated.

>> No.72761760

>>72760149
aww, somebody got pubstomped by a timmy

>> No.72761806

>>72761760
Fuck you

>> No.72761836

>>72761760
>>72761806
>samefagging

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>>72761836
You caught me

>> No.72761886
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72761886

>>72761842
Mhmmm. We all know the tricks

>> No.72761957
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72761957

Daretti got boring. Who to pivot to

>> No.72761963

>>72761682
>Courser and Oracle
>underrated
Did I accidentally enter bizarro-/edhg/?

>> No.72761989

>>72761957
Slobad. I know for a fact emry is pretty fun but very similar to the spaghetti pope.

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>>72761957
>who to pivot next?

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>>72761963
Force of Will and Pact of Negation and Fierce Guardianship are also underrated dontcha know?

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72762031

>>72761957

>> No.72762057

>>72761577
>>72761611
This is what I'm afraid of. Is there anything else more interesting to be doing in mono-black or Orzhov colors?

>> No.72762067
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>>72761989
Is slobad actually that fun?
I thought emry would be pretty fun too, the main reason I dont like daretti is he's just literally an over costed faithless looting, you never get to anything else unless you've locked down the board, and then you're winning without him.
>>72762000
He was the old commander until I bought rings

>> No.72762100
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72762100

Can someone help me make this Mizzix of the Izmagnus deck better? I really dont want to spam extra turns but the deck just kinda durdles until i can combo out

>> No.72762114

>>72762057
Not really.
There's life taxing but that kind of just plays itself.
Usual graveyard shit that will end up being aristocrats.
Hell fire combo
Big black mana that really isn't good unless you're doing hellfire combo.
Zombies.
Discard, but people will target you first.
Idk dog, Ayli lifegain seems a little interesting, but its probs dog

>> No.72762155

>>72762057
Krri'k + Exquisite Blood + Leshrac's Sigil + Pontiff of Blight
>Pay 12 life
>Drain 3 life
>Drain 3 life
>Gain 6 since everybody lost 6
>Rinse repeat

>> No.72762163

>>72762067
Slobad is meh, but emry is pretty solid. She's an integral part of a few combos and the deck is significantly stronger. A guy in my playgroup runs it, I personally prefer Teferi, but if you're in a meta when you can pull of shenanigans, it will serve you well.

>> No.72762216

>>72762057
Build Yawgmoth toolbox.
Pros:
>Part voltron, part control, part reanimator, part aristocrats, and part big black mana
>flexible tutors to let you grab anything
>rituals to get mana on demand
>oodles of card draw
>lets you play literally anything black you think is cool in very compact packages

Cons:
>powering it up makes the list very linear
>minimal stack interaction, artifact, or enchantment removal
>you'll look intimidating as a motherfucker if you pilot it well, but you'll run out of gas if you don't work it right
>very high ceiling of play required if you go down K'rrk bubbling muck infernal tutor LED lines

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>>72751000
>mfw I play browbeat with obosh out

>> No.72762561

>>72762545
Hahahahahaha I didn't even think of that one, holy shit. "Take ten or let me draw three" is one hell of a convincing argument.

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>>72762057
BLAXOS

>> No.72762749
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72762749

>>72761170
>this is my waifu and the dog she fucks sometimes

>> No.72762822

>>72762749
I wonder how many cocks it has.

>> No.72762930

>>72761172
I should really jam a Grafdigger's Cage into Feldon Reanimator.

>> No.72763229
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72763229

What are some kino cards for the ultimate fa/tg/uy?

>> No.72763246

>>72763229
Here's your deck. https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/18-05-20-KAg-kinnan/?cb=1589848140

>> No.72763327
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72763327

>>72752798
unironically replace tajic with winota

>> No.72763330

>>72763246
>craterhoof
>oracle
>ballista
>finale and genesis wave
>oko
thanks i hate it

>> No.72763370

>>72763330
>kinnan
thanks i hate it

>> No.72763382

>>72763229
>he needs to be fat and have wild dyed hair, but the rest we don't care about
what in the fuck...

>> No.72763451

>>72763382
>lives among literal animals and has no parents to love him and stop him from being degenerate.
Seems about right

>> No.72763478

>>72763451
well, I mean, how do you get fat if you're literally living in the wild? does he just drink raw animal milk all day?

>> No.72763745

>>72760037
Elocutors and Approach

>> No.72763801
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72763801

>>72763229
jesus fucking christ

>> No.72763886

>>72763801
>highering
>ltittle
>chosing
Motherfucker either he's so mad his fingers spazzed out as he typed, or he didnt finish middle school

>> No.72763921

>>72763801
I'm curious what that pic was a reply to. It wasn't actually someone poking fun at the ugly bluehaired goblin, was it?

>> No.72764018

>>72763801
>jesper myrfors

lmao his art sucks anyway

>> No.72764028
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72764028

Remind me, why is she banned?

>> No.72764045

>>72763801
>>72763886
He's right, y'know.

I've never met a "red-pilled" guy who wasn't a universally self-absorbed gasbag shit.

>> No.72764061

>>72763886
>>72763921
>not knowing who jesper myrfors is
it was his replay when someone asked him about some shit when the whole mtg cosplay thot thing happened

>> No.72764093
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>>72764028
only crybabbies want cards banned

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>>72764028
Do you want blue to be even better?

>> No.72764203

>>72764045
Probably because the ones that are sensible avoid people like you like the plague.

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>>72764097
I want Blue to suck for the next 9 years.

>> No.72764218

>>72764018
Dude was the original Art Director for MTG, not just some random artist working on old school stuff.

>> No.72764232

>>72764028
She's supper annoying. That's also the reason for most of the commander bans. You just stick her in the 99, find a way to cheat her into the battlefield and obliterate someone. It's a bit too braindead and powerful. Then again so is Tainted Pact + Thassa's Oracle.

>> No.72764261

>>72764212
>blue literally got 2 new playable cards that can be cast for free that are comparable to Force of Will
>Narset basically wins the game if cast with windfall
>Thassa's Oracle is a better labman and can win the game with one other 1-2 CMC black card
>Urza
>Emry
>Simic in general
I'm sorry bro, but blue's not gonna be sucking anytime soon.

>> No.72764289

fuck muzzio and fuck mindslaver

>> No.72764322

>>72764018
He's the reason we have the mana symbols we do.

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