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>> No.72696139
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I want pictures! Pictures of your painted miniatures!

>> No.72696158

Why are Primaris so hated here? Looking at the web store (as somebody who doesn't play 40K and hasn't collected 40K models), they really don't look bad at all. They look roughly as good as older Space Marine models, if not better

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Carcaradons for best loyalist chapter

>> No.72696161

So how does one play a melee army in this edition? Are there any guides or resources I can use to learn how not to just get my ass destroyed? Cause I'll be honest while I will definitely use the shooty parts of my codex I like the melee units too and really want to make good use of them, but everything I've seen and heard shows the vast majority of melee getting ass raped while some few are able to succeed. Why these few succeed I do not know. it generally seems like they just run in blow their load and kill one thing and then die and it never seems like a good trade to me. I get that you can't do pure melee in this edition, but how does one do an army that has a significant melee component?

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Sorry Jonah all I got is this pic of a model glued to chains

>> No.72696171 [DELETED] 

Continuing from >>72695993 >>72696069
What the fuck do I do.

>> No.72696174

Missed the boat last thread, huh?

>> No.72696176

Play a different edition or I guess play blood angels

>> No.72696177

because they aren't substitutes for the tactical marines. that's basically it. instead of just making true scale tactical marines they decided to give them a whole new datasheet and basically invalidate first-born marine models going forward.

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My Ch*nese Telemon finally arrived after over 5months.
How likely is GW to call me out on it after its painted? I don't think I'll be able to sand around the filigree without wrecking the details so it's likely it won't end up perfect.

>> No.72696181

Because most grognards started playing this game when they were kids and the nostalgia factor overrules everything else.

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>> No.72696188

It's people that either don't play. Don't play marines or poorfags that don't want to buy new stuff.

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Depends on what faction you are playing, but it mainly comes down to your movement position and who you are setting up your charges so that you can either consolidate into another unit, or wrap the current one so you can stay safe in their shooting phase.
here's the retard guide to charging also

>> No.72696191

That's what I was guessing. I could understand hating them because it's trying to squeeze more money out of Space Marine players with minimal creative effort, but old = good new = bad is pretty much to be expected with the faggots who come to this board.

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Waifu Bearers

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Time for some late night drunkpaintin.

>> No.72696199

>hurr because muh grognards

No, people hate primaris because they were shoehorned into the lore in the most hamfistdly retarded way, are a big fuck you to space marine players as they replace all your old models and will eventually cause older space marine models to get straight up squated, don't match the aesthetic of space marines at all and look generic and uninspired as fuck.

>> No.72696202

Based on the grognards I've seen, if they were just bigger tacticals most old players wouldn't buy them. The only way to get them to buy them is by making the units into something else. Maybe in a couple years we'll see an upgrade sprue with special weapons options and some chainswords and then they'll do a box rerelease, but that won't happen until after they kill the Tactical Marine box.

>> No.72696203

Probably bait but

They invalidated peoples old armies with terrible shoved in lore and poorly thought out rules that don't fit what space marines were supposed to be

>> No.72696206

Short people with a persecution complex perceive anyone who is taller than them as a threat and project that onto the tabletop. Primaris units don't replace any manlet units except for tacticals (which is still debatable, considering tacticals can bring special weapons and intercessors are limited to bolters), "primaris only" is not a rule that exists in the books and even in-setting most chapters use combined arms, utilizing both primaris and manlet marines simultaneously.

>> No.72696207

You are going to need to specify which army you play as different ones have different ideal ways to achieve that. For most armies that aren't chaos with a posessed bomb, orks using da' jump, slamgunius and friends, or genestealers, melee isn't too viable. In general though, it requires dedicating a lot of your list to making it happen and building some redundancy.

>> No.72696211
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>we had a good time during the shadow crusade
>why won't you reply to my calls to pillage

>> No.72696219

They're wearing a mix of MkIV and MkVIII armour, and are a bit taller. They match just fine. The only reason you're mad is because they don't come with a back banner and you can't use your Tacticals as count-as so you can get a free rules upgrade with your old models.

>> No.72696222 [DELETED] 

Idk, (wo)man. Move your fingers really carefully? Tweezers? Wait for it to work its way out? How big is the piece? Worst case scenario you explain to the doctor it's some sex toy.

>> No.72696225

of course not but i thought op meant legitimate complaints. grognards are developmentally disabled and their complaints are rooted in nostalgia and self hatred.

>> No.72696229

>They're wearing a mix of MkIV and MkVIII armour
It's MkX you dumbass.

>> No.72696242

Jokes aside do they look at least decent? I tried blanchitsu once on something and now all my painting is fried. Trying to get back to not sucking.

>> No.72696249

When Marines were first dreamed up they were regular humans in special armour and were basically thugs with authority. The crusading knight thing came way later and they honestly draw a lot of visual cues from WFB's chaos warrior design.

Basically "what they were supposed to be" and what they are now are so far removed from each other that what old marines are and what Primaris are is basically the same damn thing.

>> No.72696253


Sisters of Battle. I like the Zephyrim, a lot. Quasi Angels descending from the sky and shanking a bitch just appeals to me. Repentia are also kinda neat, though I'm going to be converting the fuck out of them cause the models look like ass.

I get the rhino in first thing, and that helps make the charge and eat overwatch for the repentia, but once they've murder fucked whatever they are attacking they end up just standing their with their dicks waving in the wind and it seems like they're just going to get shot.

Zephyrim I'm not worried about getting in, and thy're at least marginally more survivable than the repentia (which isn't saying much) but same problem.

I've seen things about tri pointing and capturing units, but even then that's just delaying the inevitable and seems really niche cause I've never actually seen it pulled off in a real game in person or on a battle report.

>> No.72696258

I think it helps if you play with ITC terrain rules. Having a way to escape being shot is really crucial. Being able to take advantage of targets to wrap and trap is a big deal. Understanding the movement phase is important.

>> No.72696260

I know that fucknugget. I was talking about visuals. The only one that is really a bit out of place is Phobos, but that looks a lot like better Scout Armour, so it's really not that far removed from the setting either.

>> No.72696267


Sorry I was typing things out. please see >>72696253

>> No.72696274

it's best not to ask questions like that here because most anons here don't play or collect either

>> No.72696289

If you want them to be more of a pink colour to the word bearers more MAROON red i think they look good, maybe a light drybrush to catch the armors edges to give it more depth.
If you're not after the pinky colour just hit the entire armour with a drybrush of your desied colour, the dark pink will still look good by adding some shadows.

>> No.72696299


Honestly most people I know who play marines are fine with them. But to be fair me and all my friends are fairly new to the game and aren't as invested in the old lore or models. I personally can recognize and acknowledge the issues with the lore behind primaris marines, and I also understand some of the frustration about how they are on the tabletop, but I think they look nice (with several exceptions that look like ass, but every army has that) and I don't really have a problem with the inevitable complete replacement and phasing out of manlets within the next few years.

>> No.72696302

if they were a visual update ala new chaos marines, it'd be fine. but they aren't. they're an insult to fluff in every sense and an abomination

>> No.72696312
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>Basically "what they were supposed to be" and what they are now are so far removed from each other that what old marines are and what Primaris are is basically the same damn thing.

I was more thinking about the rules. Marines were billed as being able to take all comers so they have options where primaris are more like aspect warriors and can only really do 1 job with no options.

Since you mention it tho yes people also dislike them dropping the space knight look in favor of a more generic look. There's a reason this picture is so popular, people like the gothic combination with scifi.

>> No.72696316

If you want to go melee with Sisters, go Bloody Rose. The extra attacks are much needed to compensate for your low strength.

Other than that, use Miracle Dice to make those long charges (like when deep striking Zephyrim), and make sure you keep your Repentia properly buffed.

Consider using Penitent Engines, or the other one I forget the name to, as distraction Carnifexes to keep the heat off the Repentia since their saves don't go far to keeping them around.

And basically consider most melee units in this game as a bomb: you light the fuse, throw them at the enemy and watch them explode.

If you can consolidate into new targets (you are using your pile ins and consolidates to trap other units with you into combat, right?) and declare multi-charges to tag multiple units when possible so you can trap on while killing the other.

Melee is all about movement to maximize it's effectiveness, even before you start tossing strats and buffs into the mix.

>> No.72696325

>The crusading knight thing came way later
You mean 2nd Edition?

>> No.72696328

Do you ever promote your models after distinctive action in service? I don’t mean adding little bits to them, but repainting them with promotions, making new figures based on the valorous model and retiring the old, etc?

>> No.72696332

Primaris are less like aspect warriors and more like 30k Legionnaires, right down to how they fight.

It's a slow process but I don't think it's going to stay that way forever, but the big push right now is to get a well rounded line out first, and worry about the more specialized chapter variants later.

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>> No.72696338


So basically accept that they're fire and forget weapons and don't expect them to kill more than one thing then, just play carefully to make sure they do in fact kill that one thing? Or am I misunderstanding?

>> No.72696340

I may be misunderstanding, but I wasnt trying to do pink. I thought one way to do WB armor was to just use Khorne Red and darken it down with Agrax or something similar. Was I wrong?

Either way, thanks for the tip/heads up. I had a squad laying around and figured I'd make a funny meme out of them while also practicing for when my actual marines come in the mail.

>> No.72696341

are you just going to pretend phobos and the vehicles don't exist

>> No.72696345

Which came out in 93, while Rogue Trader came out in 87 and was worked on through 86 at least. So a minimum of 8 years for it to go from thugs to Crusaders.

>> No.72696348

Haven't been able to get a game in with the new sisters codex yet, but their best melee unit to my understanding is repentia. And from the impression I got from the sisters player I played against a bit beforehand, a lot of it comes down to intelligent placement and use of cover. That being said, we were using ITC rules and despite it's flaws the terrain rules are decent because it at least forcing a certain minimum. Melee honestly requires the most forethought and planning to make work this edition

>> No.72696350
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>Decided to start a small Imperial Guard force
>Just a few tanks and some infantry.
>1 year later and I've got 9 russes, 3 chimeras, 1 destroyer tank hunter, 2 trojans, 1 atlas, 2 superheavies, 2 sentinel squads...
Send help. Haven't even started the artillery section yet.

>> No.72696353

Look at this autist, he has a lots of articles of that topic. Start with this:


>> No.72696362

get a load of this reddit-coper

>> No.72696363

Basically it. Plus make sure you have multiple threats on the board so they can't effectively take all your threats out before you can fire those units at the enemy.

It's something you're going to have to practice with to really nail down, plus working out what things you are most comfortable using in your combos to make it all work better.

>> No.72696373 [DELETED] 

Just get your bf to take it out with some tweezers. You do have a bf right?

>> No.72696374

I'd gladly take them more if they fit in Rhinos, but they don't. There's literally no fluff justification for it, Mars makes them. I know the AdMech are apparently really averse to transports, but come on. I'm not buying a new set of wheels just because the Tacs are fat now. If they won't ride they can walk.
Pure mech is dead as disco though, so mine loiter next to objectives and die slower than normal.
Airsoft pellets?

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Broke: Warhammer 40k is Fantasy's future
Woke: Fantasy is 40k's future

>> No.72696388

I mentioned Phobos in a later post, and pointed out that it's basically just improved scout armour, right down to the silly googles and lenses.

The vehicles are the only thing that sort of stands out, but only in the context of 40k the war game. Grav cars and the like have been in the lore for decades and its nice to see some of that creep back onto the table to be honest.

Not to mention that classic art of the Custodes hover rhino.

>> No.72696394


Just buy chimeras and make your own manticore and/or wyvern conversions out of em. Basilisks are trash.

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Are the mork or gork nauts any good? I think an ork walkers list would be cool.

>> No.72696399

You're just mad that I'm not mad. I get it, but I don't really care.

>> No.72696403

You're probably best off playing Age of Sigmar. Melee is much more prevalent in that game.

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I do a similar process with khorne red and either duchi violet or nuln oil, depending on if i've done the trim yet, but because I always have to bring the colour back a more red hue. I used to use wazdakka, but the new word bearers red paint is my new favorite colour.

>> No.72696409

>They're wearing a mix of MkIV and MkVIII armour, and are a bit taller

No they aren't. They lack the possibility and customization of tacticals, their upgrade packs are shit, and they lack the variation of regular marines. Their shoulderpads were scaled down so they look like generic sci-fi warriors and their gothic/baroque aesthetic has been completely toned down.

You also completely ignored the retarded lore, and you're ignoring the lack of features they have. They are generic and bland. I don't give a shit about count as, they are inferior model kits to tacticals.

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Here comes that boi

>> No.72696411

I'm not going to lie, I'd be happier if they fit in Rhinos too. My only guess is they're trying to split CSM and Loyalist Marines by making the Rhino a vehicle CSM and human factions (Sisters of both flavors zealous and silent for example) use while the Loyalists employ grav tanks instead.

>> No.72696415


Got it, gonna need to learn all this shit and be smart about it. I guess I'll go do more research


Starting with this. Thank you anon.


Thanks to you as well anon. Multiple threats, and practice practice practice. I got it.

Well now to build and paint and do this. Sometimes I kinda wish I liked other armies cause it feels like mine is a hell of a lot of work to get less, but it's the only one I'm really passionate about and want to build and collect so I guess it is what it is. Hi ho silver and off we go thanks to all you anons who replied I appreciate it and I'll post about games some day when the armies done and we aren't all stuck at home cause of the kung flu.

>> No.72696417

They're okay. Ork walker lists probably aren't going to win you tournaments but they're perfectly legit for your average games

>> No.72696418

yeah. have an entire killteam that i'm trying to paint that was the survivors of a really long campaign

>> No.72696422

I got the Death Guard army from the Dark Imperium box and the general Chaos one from Shadowspear and I wanted to play the Shadowspear ones as Emperor's Children. However I'm finding having a detachment of DG and another of EC isn't very productive, as aura effects wont effect those not part of the same legion and certain skills dont work with the other mark. I like both of these armies fluff wise but should I just play them in one legion?

>> No.72696427

>I mentioned Phobos in a later post, and pointed out that it's basically just improved scout armour, right down to the silly googles and lenses.
lmao look at this retard

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greenstuff. thats a good idea though

>> No.72696431
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I'm well past the point of caring about rules. I'm thinking double Armageddon basilisk, double Minotaur, centrepiece railway gun.

>> No.72696440

What are chaos players doing for possessed? I'm not sold on the old box.

>> No.72696445

Not that anon, but I sincerely hope we see some changes to make melee a more important phase in the game again. As it stands it's alright, but I can't exactly bring a pure World Eaters army with 60+ Beserkers to a game and expect to win even half of my games.

>> No.72696446


I'm not gonna lie, I've had people try to get me into sigmar before, but I just don't like any of the armies and don't want to spend the money to but any of them or the time to build and paint them. If I'm going to do this it's going to be a passion project and the only thing I can really get passionate about is Sisters. I like the gothic aesthetic, I like the religious themes, I find the lore pretty fun, and I feel like there's decent potential for me to make my dudes and I have a theme to go for. At this point it's just a matter of pulling it off. I expect to fail at first, but hope eventually I'll get it.

>> No.72696447

Rogue trader lore, the first edition, is so different and quicky that we should treat it as not canon and a different game.

>> No.72696448

Mork is a decent support vehicle for KFF and has decent anti-armor, Gorkanaut shits out alot of attacks at range and hits luck a truck but is otherwise on fragile side. Induvidually they are not very good on 1-to-1 basis vs other super heavies from armies like Chaos, but they work decently together with ork infantry by being able to cover the infantry weaknesses.

>> No.72696451

atleast buy them from re-casters

>> No.72696464
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Based. The og manticore is hot

>> No.72696468

New to 40k, played a little Kill Team with my buddy via TTS and I'm working on building/painting some guys right now. I really like Space Wolves, but all my info has been from wikis so far. Can anyone recommend me some books to into Space Wolves?

>> No.72696474

And (Gorkanaut) hits like a truck in melee*

>> No.72696478


>> No.72696487

Guard probably has the best Forge World line up.

>> No.72696492

Ok, so you had a good 6 years of space grubs during a time that GW was still figuring out their setting, and now for the next 27 years space marine solidified their identity as the enhanced crusading angels of war that we all know.

>> No.72696494

Just make sure you get exclusively primaris, phobos shit especially as it's really good on tabletop right now. Not buying primaris is just forcing yourself to have to re-buy models later.

If you are going SW, make sure get reievers and intercessors.

>> No.72696505

Their codex is honestly the best starting point.

>> No.72696510

Flat joints that allow you to pivot arms up or down on a single plane is not "poseability". Neither is a waist ball socket that allowed you to have the freedom to pose a model turned slightly one way or another before it looked wrong.

Easy posing was the trade off for more dynamic model poses being the default, and you clearly never grew up with metal models or you'd figure out how to repose things on your own instead of crying like a bitch about it online.

And you know what else was generic and bland? The original RTB-01 Marine release. But things improved over time. Now we're a hell of a lot further along than that was with where Primaris started at, but it'll take time (or just some actual effort if you want to convert things) to see the more unique stuff (as mentioned previously when I posted that I suspect that they're trying to establish the baseline now and the future releases later will dive more into unique chapter traits).

>> No.72696511
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What are these "re-casters" of which you speak, all my money goes to entirely legitimate operations based in countries with strong copyright controls, etc.
Yeah, I might pick up 2 Hydras too. The turret is much nicer than the new model, but getting resin barrels straight and keeping them intact is such a pain.

>> No.72696516

Fuck off retard



That shit was always cringe and boring and I'm glad it's getting phased out.

>> No.72696520

recast gal'vorbak most likely. Thanks to the general lockdown, I'm just going to wait it out in hopes of a new, updated kit coming out in the near future. Hell most of this year is a wash for a lot of people

>> No.72696523

>Thanks to you as well anon. Multiple threats, and practice practice practice. I got it.
>Well now to build and paint and do this. Sometimes I kinda wish I liked other armies cause it feels like mine is a hell of a lot of work to get less, but it's the only one I'm really passionate about and want to build and collect so I guess it is what it is. Hi ho silver and off we go thanks to all you anons who replied I appreciate it and I'll post about games some day when the armies done and we aren't all stuck at home cause of the kung flu.
Happy to help. And as long as you enjoy playing your army then you're definitely playing it right.

>> No.72696536

>getting resin barrels straight and keeping them intact is such a pain.

I've got an original FW Hydra you just need a hair dryer

>> No.72696538

You may want to pick a chaos god and lean into it or not. Chaos has lots of options if you are pulling from multiple gods. Though mixing gods isn't bad either. What other models do you have?

>> No.72696539

It replaces the cloth pants and jacket worn under the carapace armour with a soft under armour, and adds a power pack. It's basically an in-universe upgrade over scout armour.

>> No.72696544


thanks anon. I've been working on them for a while at this point, I just can't get minis that I'm happy with. I probably should just start with assemble and paint, but I've got a conversion boner and no idea how to convert. I'll get it done eventually, although many more failed sisters shall be sacrificed in the process...

>> No.72696549

Calm down autist it's been a friendly thread so far

>> No.72696552

Point stands. When Marines were "invented" they were drastically different than people claim they were. The ideas for a Crusading Knight in space came later, and took years to build upon to where it is now. The idea that it just started that way is a fallacy and should be pointed out as such.

>> No.72696554

I've been using the gal vorback, but after seeing the plastic possessed outside of the box art paint job i've actually come around to their sculpts, you just need to replace some of the bad heads.

>> No.72696556

My plan was that kit and an Intercessor or Reiver kit, then greenstuff and hope. Put the demons in the big bodies. >>72696468
I have only read King’s Space Wolf stuff, it’s okay. Ragnar resembles a Shonen protagonist but there’s cool moments.

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I prefer boiling water, but it's still a pain to get them perfectly straight. Not a high priority either. I'd much rather get more pie plates.

>> No.72696567

It took 27 years for it to solidify to the point that it's what you think of when you think "Astartes" but even after they decided on it, it wasn't how it started even then. Just go read Ian Watson's Space Marine novel for proof.

>> No.72696570

I'm ready for engine war and whatever Fabious is up to.

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>> No.72696583

No need to sperg out dude, i was just pointing out that their current identity has been built of 27 years of history.

>> No.72696593

>And you know what else was generic and bland? The original RTB-01 Marine release. But things improved over time
>actually using the metal models that gw made when they were in their infancy as a defense as to why almost 30 years of technological and design progress results in shite monopose primaris when the prior generation of models had great customization
really anon. really

>> No.72696595

I've been looking at the Gal Vorbak as alternate Greater Possessed honestly since they're bigger than CSM are.

Gotta say Erebus looks like he'd make a spiffy Dark Apostle count-as for 40k, and the Word Bearers psyker with the two Blade Slaves? I see a Sorceror and two Exalted Champions right there.

Then again I am looking at Word Bearers, so an excuse to use HH in 40k is a given.

>> No.72696605

>Flat joints that allow you to pivot arms up or down on a single plane is not "poseability".
>Neither is a waist ball socket that allowed you to have the freedom to pose a model turned slightly one way or another

Yes it literally is

>Easy posing was the trade off for more dynamic model poses being the default

Yeah and it's shit because now people's models are homogenized. Every space marine army at my store is basically the same with various coats of paint. the more "dynamic poses" have done nothing but pigeonhole people who don't want to do anything short of taking apart and resembling their model with greenstuff.

>nd you clearly never grew up with metal models or you'd figure out how to repose things on your own instead of crying like a bitch about it online.

I've had a fair share of second hand metal models and yes, reposing them is a bitch and is stupidly retarded. It's why I don't buy metal models. If that was the standard it'd be shit.

>crying like a bitch about it online

>And you know what else was generic and bland? The original RTB-01 Marine release. But things improved over time. Now we're a hell of a lot further along than that was with where Primaris started at, but it'll take time (or just some actual effort if you want to convert things) to see the more unique stuff (as mentioned previously when I posted that I suspect that they're trying to establish the baseline now and the future releases later will dive more into unique chapter traits).

I'm not the kind of guy who thinks (new bad old good). 2015 tacticals looked a lot better than older shit. The new CPM models I think are a genuine improvement on the old kit where you had to cut the handles off the bolters. So if your trying to invalidate my complaints with "Hurr this other old shit was bad" your not going to do that. There hasn't been any improvement with the primaris line either.

>> No.72696606

Conversions are a lot of work to get them just right, but once you nail down the method it is very rewarding.

>> No.72696611


I really hope it will be. Thank you anon for your kind words. I appreciate it.

What do you play if you don't mind me asking?

>> No.72696613
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They did. A lot of stuff is OOP these days.

>> No.72696614

my only models are the ones included in those boxes, so one's strictly death guard and the other was meant to be black legion, it has a lot of demon models. each army has pretty good synergy with themselves since GW designed some decent lists, but I'm finding it hard to synergize the two armies since they have different keywords. I'm thinking of leaning more into a Death Guard gunline and melee focused EC detachment.

>> No.72696615

Do it. All of those models are fantastic.

>> No.72696618

3rd edition came out in 98 and had the Black Templars plastered front and center on the fucking main rulebook in all their Crusader glory

>> No.72696625
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I just use the old possessed, they grew on me

>> No.72696627


As an addendum do you have any advice for someone who is a new player in general? I mean I played a few games back in seventh with borrowed armies, and I played a game of 8th once with proxies, but I'm green as grass and I know it. I also know a lot of people say there is a steep learning curve and I want to try to get whatever head start I can. I'm not Waac or anything, but I'd like to be able to play without being shat on by the local play group, several of whom are absolutely Waac.

>> No.72696628

What is that sexy beast?

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Any idea what this head is from?

>> No.72696642

The Primaris line hasn't re-released any of it's units yet to claim there isn't an improvement on it. Every release in it's line has been an original release based on other parts of Marine design, history (30k and 40k) and boiling it down to a concentrated baseline they can expand on later. The designers have even stated as much because they wanted to go nuts with a lot of detail but Jes Goodwin backed them off of that so they could have room to expand later.

You're looking at the RTB-01 baseline for Primaris. It's functional, basic as hell, and it's not that interesting without a fair bit of work, but it's just a baseline. Stuff takes time to release and even if GW is responding to us wanting melee units and Crusader Squads of Primaris and who knows what else, it won't be ready for years at minimum.

>> No.72696655

I played Sisters in metal, but put them away at the end of 7th. Lately I've been army hopping trying to find something I really want to play and after getting offered a Chaos Reaver Titan I'm jumping on that, and building up a Chaos force to go with it. So what I'll be playing in the future is Word Bearers, but I'll be expanding out into Chaos Knights and Daemons as well.

>> No.72696656

Honestly good portion of metal models came with that ancient shit plastic GW used to use anyway, usually for arms so that you could have easier time posing compared to just being metal arms.

>> No.72696657

Those look good. Maybe I should reconsider them

>> No.72696663

Man I just want jump packs and some TH+SS or similar for hq's / Death Company Intercessors.

>> No.72696665

And while you say that, I know I've read one story that had Black Templars fighting in Devastator and Tactical Squads.

Things took time to really settle in and really become the thing we know everything as now.

>> No.72696668

The book was released the same year as 2nd ed so I definitely wouldn't be surprised that it had elements in it that GW was still trying to iron out.

>> No.72696673


you wouldn't happen to have been playing sisters way back when the canoness could take a jump pack were you? I really wonder about that. It would seem like such a wonderful thing to have, and I've seen anons comment that they'd like it back, but I don't really have a point of reference other than assuming it would be smash captain light.

>> No.72696677

Question for everyone: Is it possible to enjoy this game with just 1 army? If you could only play 1 army which would it be?

>> No.72696686


I really hope it's possible to enjoy the game with only one cause there's only one I want.

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yeah, would never buy from them

should post their sites, you know, so people know who to avoid

>> No.72696695

Start small, and ease into it. Keep a cheat sheet handy (I used to print my army lists because Army Builder had all the statlines and special rules I needed for my army handy too) and when in doubt never be afraid to check the rulebook.

Ask for advice if you lose, and discuss what you can do better if you win.

And try to have fun. It is a game, and even if we're all trying to win the point should be to have fun.

>> No.72696704

I think I'd get bored, from a painting, modeling, and playing perspective.

>> No.72696707

Lorelet here. Why is Cato Sicarius shown as a flamboyant annoying prick in TTS? He seems to be pretty based killing unarmed woman and stuff

>> No.72696711

I know the feeling.

I still think the Primaris Death Company should have been Reivers if they weren't going to give them an upgrade sprue and new models.

>> No.72696713

>the point should be to have fun.

I really wish this mentality was still the target audience

>> No.72696716

It depends how much of an obsessive person you are and how many armies you like .

>> No.72696719

Its mostly the derpy heads that bring them down, in retrospect I would have swapped more of mine out for regular spiky helmets. The kit itself is nice to have just for the sheer amount of bits you can liven up other CSM models with, and the mandatory winged backpacks for jump pack Lords and Sorcerers

>> No.72696720


Is it not? I mean I got into this to have fun and make something cool and do something kinda creative and make something that was mine.

>> No.72696723

I think the question is what do you want out of the game. It's not quite like a video game where you buy a character and that's your kit. A lot of 40k is about tweaking your army, growing the collection slowly, having fun experimenting different game types and army lists with friends, just painting and enjoying the collection you've put together.
If you play Killteam or have friends that play low point games you could easily have more than one army and see what feels good. If you want to commit to some kind of all-around high end army for tournaments your options might be limited to space marines if you want to be flexible enough to fight off meta shifts.

>> No.72696724

And that's my point. 40k isn't a static setting. It's never been one either. What we play now is built on decades of lore that has built up over time.

Complaining about the Primaris as they are now is like complaining that an anthill isn't as tall as a mountian.

>> No.72696727

he was a glory chasing cunt at first, but the last couple years have really mellowed him out, plus tts has a habit of flanderizing and going heavy on the memes

>> No.72696729

Nigger your comparing Primaris to models that were released back in the 80's and saying that their lack of features is justifiable because they are somehow equivalents.

Basically an admission that Primaris marines are a huge regression (which they are).

And you don't have anything to back up your retarded claim. That primaris marines are totally going to be brought back up to standards that manlets marines had. There's no reasons to not have that shit on release in the first place.

You're sitting there defending them when you admit that they are flawed in this regard, and your expecting everyone to bank on the idea that they'll totally reverse course on everything that they've spend moving away from with primaris.

>The designers have even stated as much because they wanted to go nuts with a lot of detail but Jes Goodwin backed them off of that so they could have room to expand later.

Everything about primaris that GW have stated has been horseshit, like them insisting they aren't a replacement for regular marines which anyone with two braincels knows for a fact is horseshit at this point.

And none of that means that there will be a return to form with Primaris marines recapturing what people liked about regular marines.

>You're looking at the RTB-01 baseline for Primaris. It's functional, basic as hell, and it's not that interesting without a fair bit of work, but it's just a baseline.

It's why they're shit and generic. Even the upgrade packs are objective downgrades from tactical upgrade packs.

>tuff takes time to release and even if GW is responding to us wanting melee units and Crusader Squads of Primaris and who knows what else, it won't be ready for years at minimum.

People also wanted Primaris death company and they got intercessors painted black. You an GW don't understand what people want.

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>> No.72696731

I think maxmini sold them but their site seems to be dead atm.

>> No.72696736

I played Sisters for like 7 years, so I don't see why not. You just have to find that one army that really clicks for you and play it as long as you enjoy it. Eventually you may want to expand out into other armies for allies, or just for some new flavor, but generally you can play with just one army.

>> No.72696740

True. And IIRC, not all marines were considered crusader knights, because "YourDudes"

>> No.72696741

stick to lower points games while you learn how to play. Prioritize the hobby over the game so you don't have to be as concerned with rules and can focus more on your own enjoyment of it. Also, know that everyone sucks at every part of 40k at the start, painting, modelling and playing the actual game are all very different skill sets. Pick an army because you like the fluff and the look of it not it's performance in game, what's good and bad in game changes with almost every rules update for that faction. As for converting, check ebay for bits lots and see if any game stores in your area have a bits box, also look into using thermoplastics to make your own basic molds to clone pieces for projects. Two start collecting boxes are probably the best way to start any faction since it get's you a basic battalion and usually enough stuff to play a small game. Kill team is also a great way to start since you can build a basic team with a single troops box for any faction. I also cannot stress taking this all slowly enough. If you buy a bunch of stuff all at once, you will probably burn out quickly, especially since this hobby has a larger initial buy-in than most. The mega in the OP has all of the rules and some painting guides, the GW youtube channel has some good painting tutorials. so pace yourself and enjoy the ride to your enjoyment. And if you ever stop having fun, you can shelf your minis and come back later

Define one army. Do you mean enough minis for one list or the full range of one army/faction to make use of? Because the former, not so much, while the latter is completely feasible.

>> No.72696742

TTS runs on outdated memes

>> No.72696743

So I know Kriegers live the way they do out of a culture-wide sense of guilt regarding their planet's betrayal of the Imperium, and that their whole trenchwar thing is due to their entire planet being a mudhole from having WWI in Space! for so long.

But is Krieg a peaceful place? Did they eventually stamp out the heresy? Or are there krieger heretics on the other side of trenchworld digging just as hard for the chaos gods?

>> No.72696744

I wish they were actual good models with sculpted detail and not just black intercessors.

Rievers and death company don't fit at all thematically

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>> No.72696757

And Crimson fists on the Codex

>> No.72696759

Not him but the only good thing about primaris is their models. Their kits, lore, and rules are all shit so far, so hard to have faith considering the foundation.

>> No.72696762

It is, but the vocal minority is easier to find. Thanks to the internet we get to hear about tournament play this, and broken that all the time.

I just wish the narrative community was as outspoken as the competitive one, but I think the competitive side of the game just attracts the more outspoken of us.

>> No.72696764

I played nothing except dark eldar for 6th and 7th. Started chaos in 8th post TS codex

>> No.72696765

You can still do that but the marketing is more geared towards the meta chasing tournament players because they spend more money

>> No.72696774

Take everything thing from with a grain of salt, the characters are very much a charactercher of themselves.
If you want a good Cato Sicarius novel to read I'd suggest Knight of Macragge, it explains what happened to him when he went missing in the warp and is a fantastic bit of character development for him.

>> No.72696775 [DELETED] 

It's a bit of the tail bit of a necron wraith. I really don't want to explain this to a doctor, I can still feel it.

>> No.72696777

Reivers and Intercessors are the first things I bought actually. I stole a kill team list and that's what it was mostly made of, so I bought the start collecting for Intercessors and I bought the kill team box with the Reivers. Thanks for the advice, lets me know where to proceed next.

>> No.72696779

They are not a replacement .

Technically you can still deploy a tactical squad as a troop slot instead of a primaris, so no, not a replacement YET. TikTok manlets

>> No.72696785

Have any Blood Angels or their successors have marines catch the Black Rage while in the Deathwatch?

>> No.72696787 [DELETED] 

If I had a boyfriend I would be shoving warhammer models in my pussy

>> No.72696788

Don’t let Guard hog all the treadheads, i’d hate to see full Grav. Traditionally mechanized Primarus is a cool opportunity.

>> No.72696791

Heretics are all dead. They live fire train against their own people.

>> No.72696795

I am comparing the roots of one line to the roots of another. You're comparing the tree of one line to the roots of another.

No army starts off fully fleshed out with all the options. Hell, some don't even start out in the same faction as where they are now (Chaos being the original home of Nids and Crons for example).

And I too wanted proper Death Company. But before that I wanted the ability to run Primaris in Crusader squads and have 20 dudes in Power Armour charging at the enemy holding chainswords and screaming with all the anger their geneseed can muster.

I didn't get either of those things. And all I can do is hope for them later. For now I'm focusing on other things. Like Word Bearers. Who suck so hard people wish Chaos had Primaris.

>> No.72696796

Honestly my main point i started with was that they haven't been the space grubs for a very long time and that it only took an edition for them to evolve from that.

>> No.72696797


So here's the thing, they did completely stamp out the heresy. It took 500 years for them to do it, but they did it. However despite this Krieg is not a peaceful place, it's war torn to this day. Do you know why? Because the trainees are literally waging war against each other for the honor of being selected to leave Krieg and go and fight for the Emperor. They literally kill themselves and war amonst themselves, all of them 100 percent loyal to the Imperium and emps mind you, in order to make sure that they produce the best possible troops. Every Krieger on every battlefield is a veteran, because they've literally been through a few years of war before the regiment even gets deployed and leaves Krieg.

-t Krieg autist who has read literally every book and codex about them and written a lot of Krieg fan fiction.

>> No.72696799

First off, TTS is a parody. Secondly and honestly more importantly, TTS Cato is one part based on older characterizations of him and one part that one annoying, egotistical asshole from the last game you played

>> No.72696801

>They are not a replacement .
Yes it's a replacement

>Technically you can still deploy a tactical squad as a troop slot instead of a primaris

There's is no reason to deploy tacticals instead of intercessors.

>> No.72696806

Every time I watch TTS with my boyfriend he always explains to me all the lore , apparently TTS is 90% canon but turned to the 11 , he wasn’t able to tell me why they portray Cato as an annoying cunt tho that’s why I’m asking but I doubt it is because lulmeme

>> No.72696814

True. I mean Raptors are a chapter of sneaky sniper dudes, and I'm almost positive the Inquisition runs the Red Hunters chapter as their own private army of Astartes.

In my experiance, so does the entire 40k fanbase. I mean how many more "Dark Angels are traitors, lol" jokes do we really need?

>> No.72696817

She was armed. Both with her diplomatic training and a knife (or a pistol, I don't remember).

>> No.72696818


if your boyfriend thinks tts is 90 percent canon he may be an absolute lorelet memelod.

>> No.72696831

Why not? Air drop the crazed nutter in power armour with a skull mask with a pistol and a knife into enemy lines and then go collect whatever is left after the fight?

Makes more sense than giving them a bolt rifle and pointing them at the enemy.

>> No.72696832

Lady you need a new boyfriend

>> No.72696843

I wouldn't say all their lore is bad. Captain Felix is neat being a Primaris who remembers the Imperium back during its golden age.

>> No.72696844

>There's is no reason to deploy tacticals instead of intercessors.
Because I want my army to have SOUL

>> No.72696845

the only people who think TTS is in any way accurate are the people who have never actually read the lore

>> No.72696848

Thanks sweaty, looks like I Cato Sicarius got a pass

>> No.72696849


To be fair they live like that because the administratum and echlesiarchy have taken control of the planet and indoctrinate them from birth to be like that and keep them perpetually in their current state because they are more usefull like that then they would be if they weren't trapped in a never ending penance. Which is also why in the novels you see a lot of older Kriegers who have survived long enough and seen enough of the galaxy to start asking questions getting really fucking angry or beginning to doubt everything.

>> No.72696853

I don't disagree, but I think they're trying to create more space that seperates Chaos and Loyalists so they can feel more like distinct factions on the table instead of being the same guys with or without spikes.

>> No.72696855

pistol. it was stashed under her desk or something and in the unedited version of the screen grab, she was in the process of pulling it out and blowing the face off of the naive scrub primaris Cato saves

>> No.72696869

>older Kriegers who have survived

Is that actually a thing?

>> No.72696870

>There's is no reason to deploy tacticals instead of intercessors.
Special weapons? A lascannon or a missile launcher with 4 ablative wounds sitting in backfield ruins is extremely annoying to deal with.

>> No.72696874

If I were to build Spess Marines I'd just build Primaris only. Tacticals look worse than Intercessors anyways.

>> No.72696881

It doesn't matter if you're a lorelet, why would anyone with a brain think TTS is canon or accurate? Holy shit are you this stupid that you believe everything that you see? That you think TV shows like South Park accurately reflect humans in reality?

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What are the things you overlooked in your faction because you enjoy them.

>> No.72696897

Well I have to go to work in the morning so I'm off and won't be here to debate how good or bad Primaris are.

Thanks for the help on picking between a World Eaters and Word Bearers army. The latter looks quite good, and I don't know if I really want to try doing HH style World Eaters right now. Plus using the HH Word Bearers as neat alternate models for my army is something that'll definitely happen.

And good luck future Sister of Battle player!

>> No.72696899

>I am comparing the roots of one line to the roots of another. You're comparing the tree of one line to the roots of another.

No that's a retarded analogy. A new model line isn't supposed to be at the level of 30 year old models. They aren't some new standalone army, they are the replacement for CURRENT models, and your acting as if it's okay for them to regress. You can't say it's okay for them to be lacking in features because models in the past were lacking features.

And again, you're making a giant assumption that the direction they will go with primaris, when they MOVED AWAY from what current marines are and CONTINUE to move away with each additional release. Phobos do not fit at all with SM armies, and no, they do not fill the role that scouts filled.

The whole root of this conversation is why people hate primaris marines, continued from the previous thread, and your defense of primaris is that non of the complaints about primaris are valid because they'll totally undo everything they did with them with time. GW's brains didn't reset and they forgot how to make conciseness decisions. Look at the new CSM for an example. The way Primaris marines are now, is a CONSCIOUS decision on GW's part. It's the direction they want to go. There's no reason for them to strip shit away. GW was new at this shit back int the day, they aren't now, so it's not a good defense. They didn't make primaris marines the way they are with the intention of going back. You're a fool if you think otherwise.

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new to 40k, can someone point me to the most emo/goth army?

>> No.72696901

they're few and far in between, but yeah. much like how natural progression of climbing through the ranks in other guard regiments is through surviving long enough, those that are considered veterans are placed in special grenadier squads, and eventually they can work their way up to being captains or higher.

Of course, the nature of the guard makes this hard, and the fact that they're Krieg just cranks that difficulty knob up to 11

>> No.72696906

So what, you want an army of black Space Marines? I mean Salamanders and Celestial Lions are both a good choice for that.

>> No.72696912

Raven Guard are canon broody goths.

>> No.72696913

Night Lords, Raven Guard, or Dark Eldar

>> No.72696914

>Special weapons? A lascannon or a missile launcher with 4 ablative wounds sitting in backfield ruins is extremely annoying to deal with.

Doesn't make up for the points investment and lack of wounds for regular tacts, especially because a 3+ armor doesn't mean what it used to. You are better off with intercessors and hell blasters.

>> No.72696915
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>Celestial Lions

>> No.72696916

How bad the Word Bearers' Legion trait is, and how useless summoning buffs are.

>> No.72696919

Night Lords, Blood Angels, Dark Angels, and Ravenguard all fit the bill.

>> No.72696929

So from what I’ve seen cypher being the mysterious tri hard with 2 guns with no one knowing if he’s the empire greatest hope or danger, stern being locked up in BL by Drukhari and harlequins, ultramarines winning all their fights against impossible odds, Vulkan hugging things, catachans knifes, kitten playing yugioh with Tzeentch are all 100% cannon, maybe you are the lorelet afterall

>> No.72696931

Honestly, the first wave of Primaris was fine, they just were just bigger marines. It's the Vanguard/Phobos tacticool shit we got in the second wave I hate with a passion

>> No.72696943

ADB for Black Legion. The 7th ed splat book for them really caused me to enjoy them and helped elaborate on them being a big-bad faction rather than Abaddon and his various failures.

>> No.72696944


Yes, yes it is. The thing is the method of advancement in the Death Korps is 1 part meritocracy and 1 part survival. The path for advancement to say watch master is basically, survive being a trooper, survive being a grenadier, become a watch master. Their officers also are promoted based on competence/survival (which for them tends to be the same thing).

For instance in Dead men Walking the Colonel literally took the dead previous Colonels designation when he was promoted upon that mans death. He'd been around for a while, survived well past the expected life span of Kriegers and was now in charge of the regiment. He actually had a lot of personality, and like 80 percent of that personality was hatred and spite but it was very subtle. He ripped the imperial governor a new asshole at one point, but he wasn't like screaming at him he was just very carefully but intensely explaining why the governer would do what he said or he'd kill him for getting in the way and that the civilian pdf was only good as bullet catchers and that was what he was going to use them as such because his men had more value than those worthless soft civilians. It was pretty kino honestly.

>> No.72696946

The color scheme GW gave Alpha Legion. I painted mine a very dark version of their colors and use details on the base to add some color

>> No.72696947

My point was this is a baseline that has to support Vanilla Marines, Black Templars, Blood Angels, Dark Angels, Space Wolves and Deathwatch. It's going to take some time before they start looking at more unique units and specialized wargear for those different aspects. It's not like Ad Mech where it all supports a single army. It's a single model line that has to support over half a dozen different factions who all are very similar, but not identical.

Complaining that it can't 1:1 replace the expansive nature of a 30 year old model line is just retarded.

>> No.72696951

There are no women in these threads you are all larpers.

>> No.72696952

And now I know you don't actually play the game.

>> No.72696961

They're canonically dark skinned and live on a world that is described a lot like the African plains.

>> No.72696971

post examples?

>> No.72696982

Word Bearers: legion trait
Dark Eldar: How much of a fucking pain they are to pack and transport
Orks: How much of a pain it is painting all the individual little buckles and other little details on boys and grots

>> No.72696983
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MAY 23

>> No.72696988

That's still AL official color, they have several different blue and green shades they use alongside also a few shades of purple/pink in older editions.

>> No.72696996

Not that anon, but the AL scheme varies by almost every picture they take of someone's work. So that anon might have to post an example, unless he means the stuff in the CSM codex, it really doesn't go too well with some of the newer chaos minis.

>> No.72697023 [DELETED] 

Not to sound harsh, but if you can't get it out, you legitimately might be explaining it to a doctor. Assuming you're an actual girl, I doubt you'd be wanting that bit of random plastic to be knocking into something important. Your bits are more important than your dignity in this scenario. Just say you and your bf got kinky and it didn't turn out the way you wanted it. Sadly I'm not a vagina expert, so I really don't know what to say. You said you can still feel it, so that's arguably good? Try to get something in the area to pull it out. Google search probably has hundreds of similar cases to glean info from.

And for the love of all that's merciful don't fucking do it again, oh my gosh, just get a toy or something. I hope this is bait, I really feel bad for you if it isn't.

>> No.72697026

Then why is the sergeant white? Checkmate faggot

>> No.72697031

I hate AM but man , black men walking is the best Warhammer novel I’ve read so far, loved the NTR ending.
Also going to war vs the Krieg sounds scary as af. I never really understood how that colonel got into the kriegz so fast, did his training lasted a month? Also the cities and the planet were kinda hard to imagine, someone needs to make a Netflix adaptation.
Necrons good guys btw

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Word Bearers trait may suck, but the Faith and Fury buffs were fantastic for them.

>> No.72697037

Because someone fucked up.

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this rumour turned 1 year recently

>> No.72697043

Ive wanted to buy a hellhound for 2 fucking days god damnit GW

>> No.72697051


Has that not come out yet? I honestly don't remember that rumor and I can't place it.

>> No.72697057


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Remember guys, unless they play tyranids it's a dude

>> No.72697079

>My point was this is a baseline that has to support Vanilla Marines, Black Templars, Blood Angels, Dark Angels, Space Wolves and Deathwatch. It's going to take some time before they start looking at more unique units and specialized wargear for those different aspects. It's not like Ad Mech where it all supports a single army. It's a single model line that has to support over half a dozen different factions who all are very similar, but not identical.

That wasn't how you illistraited your point and you're still wrong.
>My point was this is a baseline that has to support Vanilla Marines
That's the biggest load of bull posted here in a while. If you think that primaris are designed as anything but a replacement at this point you are a retard (no offense). That is a line that GW parroted at the beginning and now intercessors and primaris are the only things you see now. Your assertion that they are just there to add and not replace is blatantly false, there are very few units now that don't have a superior primaris equivalents, and more on the way that are just more replacements. You're insinuating that it's because they have to support ALL armies. But vanilla tactical didn't have that problem. You could very easily kit out your models to fit other armies with actual sculpted detail and not just paint jobs.

Again, there was no reason for shit to be stripped away. You seem to think that GW started at square 1 because they are incapable of replicating the features of fucking tacticals. That's not the fucking case, like I said, it's an obvious conscious decision to move in this direction. If what your saying is true, then why are the primaris upgrade packs also complete objective downgrades from the regular upgrade packs.

>Complaining that it can't 1:1 replace the expansive nature of a 30 year old model line is just retarded.

GW is making is using them as a replacement, while also stripping features, that they took away intentionally.

>> No.72697086 [DELETED] 

Ahem, we play orks , have you seen the muscles on those beefy boyz and them butts

>> No.72697087
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My boys don't overlook the dumb stuff about Tau, they outright reject it.

They're ancap mercenary pirates who take anyone who wants to join from tarellian dog soldiers (yet to be converted) to human hive gangers who want a change in life. They can't afford upkeep on big suits, so the largest suit they field is a single ghostkeel, and use lots of piranhas and looted imperial tanks with tau guns stitched on besides. They take their color scheme from kroot skin, and follow krootish tactics such as striking fast and up close while others snipe from hidden positions.

>> No.72697088 [DELETED] 

I'd still hit that

>> No.72697089


If you're asking how the Colonel of the Krieg regiment became the Colonel he was part of the regiment as a major before being promoted. If you're asking how he was trained a life time of war and presumably some additional training while in transit on void ships between deployments, which he could have potentially gotten a lot of cause he'd been an officer for a long time at that point in a number of wars.

The ending really was great. It was one of the few black library novels I've read that really managed to crush me and impart the feeling of what it would be like to be in 40k.

>> No.72697097

I do, and hellbalsters do work.

>> No.72697113

Not the first time one has gone a year or more without being released.

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I like the naked nob butt depicted on the MA Big Mek in official GW screens.

>> No.72697136

you are pure and wholly too reasonable for this board

keep going anon

>> No.72697149

Maybe I’m confusing ranks, not the 2 colonels at the start of the book, I also love how they technically they are not kriegz and they have to export other superiors because kriegz don’t know when to stop, they just go full unga.

I was talking about the guy that got cucked with the presidents niece , iirc he got trained as a krieg in the middle of the assault and was giving orders to a suicidal troop or something , maybe I need to read it again that book is ooold

>> No.72697150

I don't have pics but I'll post some when I can this week. I just used a sea green color I like and darkened it almost to black, built it up to the point you can barely tell it's sea green if you look at the edges. The silver I did a similar thing. The bases have biolumiscent blue plants I made from tearing bits off a paint roller tube. The legionnaires have blue light reflecting off their dark armor. Makes it look like they're sneaking in the dark through a glowing alien forest.

>> No.72697162

How exactly are you using them then?

>> No.72697175

The Word Bearers legion trait and how bad summoning is.

>> No.72697180

Are you running them in repulsors, or are you opponents retards?

>> No.72697181

Coomer needs to be a noise marine. It's just the facts, the pull of slaanesh would be too strong to keep him from being a loyalist.

>> No.72697187
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>> No.72697196


Ah, you are referring to the former mine forman He never was promoted to any sort of rank, he certainly wasn't a colonel or an officer of any sort. He was taken on the strike force because he had been a mine foreman and claimed to be able to guide them through the mines which they were using to insert strike forces into the city behind necron lines. He wasn't giving orders to the strike group but he was leading them for a bit as a guide giving them directions.

As for the officers the Commisar was not a Krieger, but the commanding officer of the regiment the Colonel absolutely was a Krieger not a non krieg officer seconded over. In some cases officers are seconded over but many krieg regiments have officers who are Kriegers. Their commissars are of course never kriegers and as you have said often have to restrain the Kriegers enthusiasm

>> No.72697203

I usually run them in a squad of ten in the back and have them in the middle of the field, usually stick a captain and luetinant with them. I make sure I have some infiltrators for deep strike denial. I surround them with intercessors as well. Usually they just delete anything I point at that get's close.

>> No.72697207 [DELETED] 

I thought if they played the nids, it's for sure a dude.

>> No.72697214

No, usually they always for executioners first and never get a chance to get my hellblasters.

>> No.72697216

They ruined the lore and look like shit

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>> No.72697230

They literally can't. Not a single red or black shirt will threaten you with your models being recasts because they know they could get into a shitload of trouble for it.

>> No.72697235

How many details Sororitas have and how much of a shitty painter I am. Don’t care, retardus sororitas ftw;~;

>> No.72697242

Looking through rumour engines
Nothing seems Necron-y, aside from the one for the slurrrp model. Nor does anything else look part of something amazing.

>> No.72697246

Isn't the only difference the helmet?

>> No.72697248

Are you playing against complete retards? 10man squad of t4 3+ infantry that costs 300+ points is a stupendously delicious target for anti-horde shooting. Any sane person focuses them down turn 1.

>> No.72697261
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I want Beasts of Nurgle to be good. They're good, right? I could do a vanguard detachment with a daemon prince and 6 individual Beasts of Nurgle and have a bunch of heroic interventions popping off all over the place to bog things down and it would be good, right?

>> No.72697278

"And with blood filling my mouth, I fell. I, Cato Sicarius, Master of the Watch, Knight Champion of Macragge, Grand Duke of Talassar and High Suzeraine of Ultramar, fell."
Veil of Darkness

>> No.72697293

What have you done with your logic and normal reasoning, RUN before the grognards catch you

>> No.72697310
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Considering we only just got the big Space Marine update last fall, (and assuming we get a new edition announced, as marines always come in the starter) my big prediction for Saturday besides Necrons is that we'll see the first Primaris wave focused on a non-codex compliant chapter. I assume it'll be Blood Angels, since they don't have a living Primarch and I feel like they're gonna stretch the "Guilliman vs the world" scenario as far as they can.

So I'm expecting to see shit like a Baal Repulsor, Primaris Sanguinary Guard, character updates, and an overdesigned Sanguinor that looks like pic related

>> No.72697321
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Do Bolter Bitches really get as fucked up as this picture implies? Also, do Imperial prosthetics really look like this? I thought they would be more "heavy metal" for lack of better description (something like what a tech priest would have, but scaled down).

>> No.72697323

they arent announcing a new edition

why would they

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>> No.72697334

So they can sell everyone a brand new book.

>> No.72697338

No, unless you're a space marine, you wouldn't survive the wounds that would necessitate those prosthetics.

>> No.72697348
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Okay, I've been having this debate with my friend.

My friend believes that Kharn's deny the which would work on GER, and that blackstone would also make GER not work. So abbadon could beat Girono just by having blackstone on him. Subsequently, DIO's [THE WORLD: OVER HEAVEN] which literally overright reality would not work either. And that basically chaos beats any and all stand ability no matter what.

What's your guy's thoughts?

>> No.72697349

9th is probably going to be super minor changes that still sell a lot of books.

>> No.72697359

Here's a helpful painting tutorial.

>> No.72697361


some anons fanon mate, not at all a representation of what happens to sisters.

>> No.72697369

Anon, that is A2 from Nier Automata, not a sister of battle.

>> No.72697370

well sure but they arent even done shitting out books for psychic awakening

if theres a new edition i really think its next year or even later

>> No.72697372
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Imperial prosthetics are no where near as organic, so you're right on that count. They aren't even that functional, to be honest.

>> No.72697376

Are you retarded? There's also the chest plate for regualr Primaris. Then there's the dogshit taticool phobis armored Primaris. Then there's the ugly jump pack Priamris. Gravis armor actually looks pretty nice though or at least it does in the art. Their mdoels themselves could use a bit more work.

Gravis helmets should have been standard for Primaris instead of the shitty knockoff MK.IV.

>> No.72697386

>Also, do Imperial prosthetics really look like this?
Some advance expensive ones can look like that but those are rather rare.

>> No.72697390

PA would wrapping up by now if chinaflu hadn't happened. As incompetent as GW is, they're still a business and have schedules and plans they're going to try and stick to.

>> No.72697392

Only the necessary prosthetics to be able to use and connect them to a power armour.

>> No.72697393

A decent enough number do yes, they're lifelong professional warriors on battlefields where a .75 cal explosive shell is a mediocre small arm.

Some prosthetics can, most are cheaper so lean to function over form. But higher quality cybernetics nearly indistinguishable from flesh exist. Most notable is Ad Mech Executor Fetials, a "face" for mechancius forces working with other imperial forces who's cybernetics are like your pic so they look like ordinary people instead of horrifying transhuman cyborgs. Which is meant to make relations easier and more efficient.

>> No.72697403

See I knew it was canon, everything on TTS is canon, Cato Sicarius attitude included.

>> No.72697404
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>Also, do Imperial prosthetics really look like this?
Prosthetics are all controlled by a cult that hates the human/organic form, so no.

>> No.72697408

It's noted that, at least in McNeill's books, the fake admech faces have kind of an early terminator quality to them.

>> No.72697425

If Primaris weren't Super Space Marines and the rest of line didn't exist I'd actually be happy about new standard Marine models if they looked like this. The only thing I would fix is the gorget is jutting out forward a bit too much. It need to stick up straight more though its not as bad with Gravis armor as it is with regular Primaris armor.

>> No.72697430

>professional warriors

>> No.72697433

Do people really like old art like this? God that's fucking garbo

>> No.72697442

No. Space Marines that get fucked up get turned into Dreadnoughts, and they're worth a lot more than Bolter Bitches are, odds are they'll just be kicked out of frontline service and work some other job or get turned into a servitor. And if you want to look at imperium prosthetics, look at AdMech. They're not made to replicate human looks.

>> No.72697451

Yeah I fucking do

>> No.72697453

They look the same. You're just afraid of trying new things. Yes the lore is contrived, but it ain't the end of the galaxy. That would be chaos.

>> No.72697457

There's a store manager locally who has probably 30,000 points of Dark Angels and nothing else. With enough autism it is possible.

>> No.72697458

Just fucking kill me already. I'm 25 but feel as if I'm in my sixty with how shit everything new is and how all these young people like it.

>> No.72697469

So you're retarded then. And Primaris lore is literally the worst thing to happen to 40K.

>> No.72697484


Well shit, I mean I know I already said thanks, but holy fuck anon thank you. This guy may be a bit to intense in his writing and like bold words too much, but this is really very interesting and informative and it makes me feel a lot better about my chances going forward and the potential value of melee units.

>> No.72697492

Whatever you say. I don't really care cause marines are boring desu.

>> No.72697501
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Fuck you. That's 3E art, which was top tier grimdark. Back when the Imperium was barely better than Chaos and existed to punish mankind for its hubris. It was a universe fueled purely by spite and nihilism and it was awesome. Back then, the guard weren't heroic brave men holding the line against super human monstrosities, but a sociopathic and incompetent army that would often cause as much damage to the people they were "protecting" as much as the invading xenos and heretics. The space marines were elitist who regarded the other sectors of the Imperium with contempt and would smash your skull in if you breathed in their direction (now, only the Marines Malevolent reflect that old attitude). Every other faction was also purely grimdark, with leaders who plotted to see the whole universe burn (much of their species included) so that their chosen could rule over the ashes. It 40k, and everything since has moved away from this spirit of absolute black bleakness.

>> No.72697531
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>"human form is holy"
>hates the organic form
Fuck off brainlet

>> No.72697535
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Wtf man everyone Fucking loves blanshitsu you have to go back

>> No.72697547
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>virgin nu art

>> No.72697555
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>chad old art

>> No.72697556
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Well W40k started as a dark metal comedy setting, I've always found the GRIMDARK BECAUSE GRIMDARK IS DARK AND GRIM to be boring

>> No.72697561

That's much cleaner than anything I've seen from Blanche

>> No.72697565
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That's also gothic nuart


>> No.72697574


Why would they get in trouble?

>> No.72697582
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Kinda unloreful too if going off of pre-4E. The commissar should be in the back with the blocking detachments, not leading the charge.

>> No.72697583
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Time to post old good art.

>> No.72697588


If you go around accusing your customers of shit and starting problems in the story you get complaints and you loose business and then corporate gets angry at your ass because people are bitching and you're loosing them revenue. I'll be honest most red shirts I've met are pretty chill, other than one or two who kinda felt like drug pushers.

>> No.72697589
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Nu W40k

>> No.72697595
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>anon brings up 3e and Kopisnky as examples of good old art
>post 3e art by Kopinsky
>"Nah, that's nu art."

>> No.72697599
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Chad W40k

Fuck off grimderp teen, real Commisars run first and shoot everyone who can't keep up

>> No.72697600
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I was never massively into Marines, but the one thing they always did really well was customisation. Basically every SM infantry kit since 3rd-4th was cross-compatible with every other one, with some really great upgrade kits and all the FW ranges too. You could scramble random basic SM parts selected from anywhere in the last 20+ years and they'd all fit together and make a totally unique dude. Primaris may have been an attempt to escape this requirement, but their much more surface-level customisation (heads and shoulders, datasheet precludes even a weapon swap) and general sameyness (every Intercessor looks good, but is identical to every other Intercessor) leads to accusations of being "soulless". Their upgrade kits are also mostly terrible.

I don't really like the "tacticool" stylings of Phobos and the intricate panelling but that's a personal autism, the customisation is the big issue. It's sadly kinda hard to have an actual debate on the issue, because every thread where this argument breaks out it inevitably devolves into "yeh those guys are all zoomies/grogs/soiboys/manlets etc. etc."

>> No.72697604

Cause it’s not Blanche... I just really like it, idk why , people scream tumblr at it but I don’t see it, the ork and the sister are adorable

>> No.72697619

There’s a fair bit of conflicting dogma coming out of the craft world cults.
I wonder what the prevailing ideal is now, especially in major craft worlds like mars which influence a multitude of other worlds and their peoples and admech branches.

>> No.72697626


>craft worlds
>craft world

anon are you high right now?

>> No.72697630

This, basically.

>> No.72697635
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Easy, you can change flesh for mechanic bits, but you have to look human.

>> No.72697645
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>3e and 4e art is nu art now

The fuck's happening?

>> No.72697650

Kopinski still works with GW, and there is a lot of other good artists. The problem, which I would agree with, is that GW has clearly started coaching their artists to represent the models they are selling as opposed to just representations of the setting. A good example of this is the Smith's Chosen of Chaos images. Literally none of them looked anything like the models, but they are iconic to the setting.

>> No.72697657


A race to claim the honor of being the greatest grog and the oldest old fag.

>> No.72697662

what about not imperium? rawr hehe >:3

>> No.72697665

Because it's an initialization of the setting.

>> No.72697672
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We posting original 40K art in this thread now? Neat.

>> No.72697681
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Have another.

>> No.72697682

They are accusing you of using counterfeit products with zero evidence, you could easily lodge a complaint with GW over this and they'll toss them out on their ass because they care more about selling paint than they do if their employees stay employed.

>> No.72697683


those squats aren't very squat.

>> No.72697685

Night Lords are chaos, but if you meant xenos, Deldar or Harlequins are closest but neither are even close.

>> No.72697693
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as someone who doesn't mind some of the new art that comes out, I also miss the aesthetics of the older stuff

>> No.72697696

I find it stupid, but I think knowing that it's dumb is part of the charm.

>> No.72697702
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I'm just saying that grimdark teens have no right to cry about losing their gothic aesthetic for tacticool shit because we lost cool dark metal punk aesthetic for gothic shit first.
GW just follows trends, capeshit is popular so we doing Good guys vs bad guys now

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>> No.72697707

They actually can be, from just looking right at a distance all the way to full skin grafts that seamlessly blend to the body.
But it's expensive procedure and one unlikely to be taken by anyone but the rich and vain.

>> No.72697723

I hate old art cause I have no idea what the fuck I’m watching, I literally need to stop what I’m doing and pay attention, it’s like they are drawn terribly on purpose

>> No.72697726
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Now THATS W40K, why doesn't Guard have anti grav vehicles anyway? They were everywhere in 2e

>> No.72697732
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>old art wasn't grimdark nor gothic

>> No.72697734
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It's funny, despite moving away from the old art style, the miniatures team sure likes pulling from it for recent minis, the new Mephiston and Fabius Bile being the big examples

>> No.72697738
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Maybe you should have your eyes checked

>> No.72697748
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Well Marines weren't gothic at all

>> No.72697751

hmm... yeah. i just don't like the idea of playing marines if everyone else is playing them. guess theres nothing really emo about this game... that sucks...

>> No.72697752
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If you don't like it, that's fine. But to admit you're an idiot with some nonsense like "I can't tell what's going on" bit? Disingenuous at best.

>> No.72697758
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Sorry he's a WIP

>> No.72697767
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Mark Gibbons is peak 40K artwork.

>> No.72697773

>There's nothing emo about this game
There is, it's been pointed out to you, you just don't like it.

>> No.72697776

>I literally need to stop what I’m doing and pay attention

Yeah, I hate when art does that. It should just be bright, contrasting colours and simple shapes.

>> No.72697778


Way to shift goalposts troll.

>> No.72697781

guess i'm just too emo for 40k...

>> No.72697782

It is a clusterfuck. Being hard to read isn't a compliment.

>> No.72697790

Art looks a fuck ton better when you can read it at a glance. That can be done with or without details.

>> No.72697793

But it's not hard to read, so I repeat that you're either being disingenuous or a bit dim.

>> No.72697796


Then be gone. Frankly ive no desire for emos in my 40k, ya'll make spergs look like well adjusted people.

>> No.72697799

It's a blob of very similar colors, contrasts and shapes. It's a fucking mess.

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>> No.72697824
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fine... bye...

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>> No.72697828

>dark angels
Yeah, now post other chapters

>> No.72697829


I think you're just full of shit. Not even the anon you're replying to but there's notjing wrong with black and white artwork.

>> No.72697830
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Trigger warming: This art may be too confusing for some viewers.

>> No.72697836

i thought this was the 40k thread not the kitsch spam thread

>> No.72697839

There's nothing wrong with black and white artwork but it requires more effort to make there any shape or form. Go post that on IC on /beg/.

>> No.72697849

That piece is completely fine. There's plenty of shape to it, not just very similar gradients with almost no texture occupying most the picture.

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>> No.72697864
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Cope gothic shitter

>> No.72697880
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>> No.72697883

Zoomers were a mistake

>> No.72697884
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Given we're doing this, heres a challenge for you
Post some modern official GW art that you actually like

>> No.72697888
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>> No.72697893

damn boi he thicc

>> No.72697896

excuse me?

>> No.72697898


Zoomers are a direct result of the sins and inadequacies of the older generations that raised them and created the enviorment and culture that shaped them. Zoomers are all the boomers fuck ups coming home to roost.

>> No.72697902
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>> No.72697903
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>> No.72697904

Please expand your vocabulary

>> No.72697922
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>look through new codexes
>find a bunch of pieces I like
>realise they're all old pieces recoloured

Eh... I do like some of the flyer art.

>> No.72697934
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>> No.72697943
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Agressors and Gravis armor are literally the only things I like in the flaming shitpile that is Primaris.

>> No.72697968
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I really like those jumping dudes with magnet bolters

>> No.72697969
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Primaris are terriable but this almost makes them look acceptable. I also like the color scheme.

>> No.72697975

Their jumppacks look so bad.

>> No.72697984
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Ehh fair point, I'm not a fan of that "hood" as well but I like how bulky they are

>> No.72697993

I like everything Primaris that isn't Phobos, that thin leg armor is retarded

>> No.72697996

I have a soft spot for the casual walk while gunning dudes down pose

>> No.72698001
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>> No.72698007

Everyone knows world eaters are manlets. It's what makes them angry

>> No.72698009


Unfortunately that is the future of marine jump packs im afraid. Best figure out some good conversions my friend.

>> No.72698026
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Man this REALLY nails down how fucking big the W40k ships are

>> No.72698036

I thought that was a space station.

>> No.72698039


You know maybe its just me but every time i see an ice pick grip on a blade that size it makes me angry. Thats such a horribly shitty and inefficient way to use a knife eapecially one that basically qualifies as a short sword that it just biols my blood to see that shitty meme grip all the time.

>> No.72698046
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>> No.72698050

The jumppakcs for Suppressors are okay looking.

>> No.72698053
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>> No.72698058


Aren't they literally exactly the same but with extra fins or am i tripping balls?

>> No.72698059
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>> No.72698064

Suppressors are in regular MkX with extra boots. Their backpacks look more like normal Marine packs with extra thrusters and Reiver style fins on them.

>> No.72698081
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>B-but I thought Imperium w-was supposed to be GRIMDARK, how can Imperials have free time for sightseeing???!!!

>> No.72698085
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The kit is fucking awesome and jam-packed with bits (you can easily make 10 or 15 guys if you combine them with regular CSM), but the paintjob on GW's site is a joke.
Pic related

>> No.72698089

If anyone asks just tell them eBay. My wife bought be a bunch of Russian recasts on accident thinking she had a great deal on stuff

>> No.72698090
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Weren't some rondel daggers pretty big?

>> No.72698092


Ah those. I will be honest i really dont like those, because i jusf can't believe something that tiny could actually generate enough lift for a space marine.

>> No.72698095
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+ they're great for customizing your characters

>> No.72698105

>taking a reaver titan to the shopping district to pick up a few things

Is this the 40k equivalent of having a truck sized SUV in the city?

>> No.72698109


Yes, and I'm not saying the ice pick grip is completely useless, but its very very situational and geneally speaking an inferior way to use your weapon, particularly with a larger blade as one of the advantages of said larger blade is reach and the ice pick grip kills that reach.

>> No.72698110

Love that art, one of my faves from the rt book

>> No.72698112

Ok those do look pretty sweet

>> No.72698132
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Reach with a short sword probably doesn't matter much if your opponent is clad in heavy armour. Need to get in there and put the blade into a gap.

>> No.72698137


This also touches on another thing. Ice pick grip is actually primarily defensive, its shit for actually cutting on or stabbing the other guy. If you want to actually hurt someone you use a saber grip.

>> No.72698150

It is possibbn le for one planet in the imperium to be a paradise and another to be a planet wide rat infested slum whose inhabitants subsist solely on corpse-starch. This has never been in contention and I do not know who you're trying to mock.

>> No.72698163


A point, you're still far more likely to do that with a saber grip becauase it gives you better control over the blade and a better range of motion to get at those gaps.

>> No.72698164
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Huh... This is the first time we've ever seem something like a W40k navy right?

>> No.72698171
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>> No.72698173
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Painted Harker today, Marbo is coming on saturday

>> No.72698179

Is he banging a gong

>> No.72698180
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>> No.72698182

There was an Ork navel ship for Apocalypse if I remember right.

>> No.72698185

>Buying into the soulless meme

>> No.72698187


You know i looked at that for a bit and couldn't for the life of me figure out wjat the fuck it was supposed to be but i think you are right.

>> No.72698192
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Yeah, I keep forgetting all the medieval instructions on armoured combat that favour the saber grip.

>> No.72698201

Sweet looking squad

Bang a gong get it on

>> No.72698203

The third war for armageddon featured amphibious landings on both sides. I remember it somewhat vividly since it was the only time I saw the chimera's amphibious qualities used.

>> No.72698210

>That cannon at the front that requires the whole ship to be precisely aligned for it to hit anything

>> No.72698212

so when is GW going to finish the Primaris line and squat the old marines? I fucking loathe Primaris but this half assed roll out is annoying me with its incompetence. Its pretty clear GW has no idea what the fuck they're doing.

>> No.72698216


Anon primaris are following the sigmarine model. Give it a few years of constant releases of part of fheir range until its all done.

>> No.72698222
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>Take an existing ship.
>Stick a portal on it.
>No, it has to be a 1:1 match to a model we sell.
>Including the base.
Silly as fuck.

>> No.72698224

How’d you get the colonel??

>> No.72698225

Grimdark fags
>duhh everyone works 30h per day bro

>> No.72698227


I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not.

>> No.72698232

>Helsreach, Logans World
>Rival Ork and Human gangs keep the peace
I want to see this fluff resurrected

>> No.72698233

LFGS owner decided to pull names out of a hat to see who could buy the 4 they received, I was a lucky SOB and got him for retail $35

>> No.72698234

Well it's just a skin in game, but Yeah I just noticed that silly teleport placement

>> No.72698238

Its already been like four years already and they still don't have an assault equivalent.

>> No.72698243

Or maybe they're just not going to squat oldmarines at all despite what you lot like to insist

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>> No.72698252
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I'm fucking sirius, you guys.

>> No.72698255


3 years actually and you can blame the non marine releases and the sigmar releases for the delay. Plus sigmarines also took years.

>> No.72698256

All the fluff is pushing the idea that old marines are being replaced by new Primaris or undergoing the Rubicon

>> No.72698262


You seem to be conflating half swording with an ice pick grip, they are not the same thing.

>> No.72698263

Damn lucky

>> No.72698265

What were Sigmarines missing at launch?

>> No.72698270

To me their clear avoidance of such an obvious niche is a sign that they actually are trying to avoid Primaris utterly obsoleting oldmarines

They went so far as to invent jetpack autocannon guys and mini-dreadnoughts instead of introducing an assault marine/terminator equivalent. No one was asking for any of that stuff.

>> No.72698280
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I'm still not seeing any medieval depictions of knights using saber grip to get reach on their armoured opponents, rather than getting in close.

>> No.72698282

You are welcome
>This guy may be a bit to intense
Yeah, that why I called him an autist, but you can see he knows what he is doing

>> No.72698289

Like I said all the fluff is indicating Primaris replacing old marines.

>> No.72698291


Dude sigmarines had practically fucking nothing at launch, they started eitj basically 4 or 5 different units. Then over an extended period of time different "chambers" were released each if which expanded the range by introdicing several new options based around a common theme.

Kinda like how primaris started with a handcul of units anx then we got a release with a binch of new options based around phobos armor. I will eat a hat if we don't get releases for Gravis armor same as phobos at some point and releases for other themes as well.

>> No.72698301

Do you think we'll get new bigger oldmarines?

>> No.72698316


Well if you look at the picture you jist posted you'll notice that the guy getting toppled who is probably going to get stabbes is using an ice pick grip, and the dude doing the toppling is not using an ice pick grip for the dagger he is holding in the hand which is picking the other guys leg.

>> No.72698323

They work like a parachute.

>> No.72698325
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>> No.72698333
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Is he holding the dagger in a saber grip? Don't know what reach he gets from hooking the opponents leg, that seems like getting in pretty close.

>> No.72698335


Yeah he does but i have to wonder about some of it. I mean maube i just dont understand or everyone is bad but a lot of these scenarios seem to be based on charging while already close to them and usung tje charge distance not to get to them but to maneuver and it seems like every time i see a charge in a bsttle report it is from far away and the big concern is will it make it or not rather than how can i wrap around past them.

>> No.72698346

No, manlets will be fucked by the mismatched scale forever.
I think a lot of the most modern manlet kits GW may never even update again just because they're plenty modern with no room to improve, 'final form' if you will.

>> No.72698358
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Reivers don't have jump packs, they have grav-chutes. In the old days Marine packs were equipped with jets, now they're more zero-g thrusters.

>> No.72698362
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>Want to get iron warriors
>newer csm models are too spiky for iron warriors
>older models are too short and look old (duh)
>Forgeworld alternatives for helmet costs like $25 cad (for $60 csm models)
What do?

>> No.72698380


Use primaris like the basic bitch you are.

>> No.72698397

There are methods to have long range charges and be able to make one on the first turn.

>> No.72698404


The knife is acting as an extension of his hand and actually helps to form the hook he is using to pull the other guys leg from under him. It did in fact extend his reach and allow him the ability to hook the other guys leg in that illustration. Get fucked you dumbass.

>> No.72698423

get plastic mark IV marines

>> No.72698424
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if you can paint hazard stripes you can have iron warriors

>> No.72698426


Right but all those turn one charges use all your charge movement just to get into melee, so you can't use the charge movdment to do the positioning the other guy was talking about. Or at least that's what it seems like.

>> No.72698441

meant mark III

>> No.72698448

>newer csm models are too spiky for iron warriors
Iron Warriors can be plenty spiky if they want

>> No.72698458

Manlets wont be squated, at least not entirely. They'll jusf be confined to 30k and disapear in 40k.

>> No.72698471

Yes, you have to use every excess inch to do the positioning

>> No.72698483
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Kataphrons arrived yesterday so I’m gonna hopefully assemble them today

>> No.72698492

Which is rediculous since CSM has already gotten their size upgrade. They need to either squat oldmarines like the fluff indicates or give them new kits.

>> No.72698507
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posted yesterday night already, but ok

>> No.72698512

Or just not care because model scale isn't that important

Scale was thrown off looong ago, even in 5th ed guardsmen shared the same height as marines, the problem is absolutely nothing new, and it's not even being fixed now as the new Sisters are only a littler shorter than Primaris when canonically chads should have a good two feet over them

>> No.72698515

>Or just not care because model scale isn't that important
It is when other stuff is getting size increases.

>> No.72698554

It matters when you have bad proportions.
Guardsmen look like complete garbage and I would have collected them 7 years ago if they didn't.

>> No.72698558
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>new models too spiky
cut of spikes then?

>> No.72698560
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WIP but it's all I've done recently.

>> No.72698572

At least you tried.

>> No.72698576

uhhhh boss, what exactly you going for here?
looks like a smurf has cum all over it

>> No.72698582
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>> No.72698603

One of my fav quotes

>> No.72698607

What the fuck kind of cum do you have

>> No.72698625

>you will never be a chapter serf/servitor having the time of your fuckin life

>> No.72698749

You know there is very little need for shinpads in a laser fight

>> No.72698767
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Iunno, new csm sculpts look pretty alright as iw to me.

>> No.72698774

Aw don't give up kid

>> No.72698783

After seeing so many IW warriors using those plastic HH kits and nothing else I think the IW colours look better on CSM sculpts

>> No.72698784

Is this the fat autistic representing the fanbase marine

>> No.72698850
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Unpopular opinion, Dark Eldar and Craftworld Eldar should just be squatted for Ynnari.
GW hate the Eldar and don't give a fuck about them, most of the Eldar model range hasn't even been fucking updated since 3rd-4th edition. Why bother having two armies that clearly are not given a fucking shit about, when you can just merge the best of them into one army?
Seriously I basically don't even buy GW models anymore for any of my Eldar stuff because the third party shit looks a million times better.

>> No.72698858

>Those mold slips on the bottom shoulders

>> No.72698862

Necromunda heads fit on IG bodies, right?

>> No.72698892

I always assumed Naval Warfare was no longer a concern when every single faction has tonnes of spaceships

>> No.72698899
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>all those pointy arrow decals

>> No.72698930

It'll need some heavy cleaning but if you do it well you should be fine

>> No.72698955

Links to third party shit?

>> No.72698966

>albino demon head with footlong blue tongue
>head that's just a helmet overflowing with tentacles
>Slaaneshi head slathered in cheap eye shadow and lipstick
>the head with the oversized Jim Carry Mask grin

Love it. I miss when Chaos looked more chaotic

>> No.72698967

>bone she

Don't mind if I do.

>> No.72699021

I'll be getting an airbrush in a month and I've lost all motivation to paint. I know my results are going to be much better with it (I've used one before at a mate's) so it feels pointless or even wasteful to paint now

>> No.72699033

What is it that appeals to people here about poorly proportioned models with fewer details and a less crisp casting process? Is it just an old = good mentality?

>> No.72699050

Still might as well paint if you enjoy doing so. I'm stuck priming black and hand painting blue right now to get some Rubrics done. Still fun so I'm not waiting for my airbrush.

>> No.72699054

>she protecc
>she attacc
>but most importantly she facc

>> No.72699096
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Artel W does really good Eldar stuff, but their best stuff got takedown'ed by GW. You can still though find the STL files for Resin printing for the Boneshees and their awesome Macha Farseer here

But for stuff
Ghost Mini's

Artel W

Raging Heroes

Wargame Exclusive

>> No.72699100

Sisters of Battle are kind of like candy to the forces of chaos, aren't they?

>> No.72699117

How often do y'all buy models for something other than the army you're working on / that you don't intend on using in game?

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>> No.72699128

I like the artel W ones, have you ordered from them before?

>> No.72699138

Maybe 1/4 of my purchases are stuff like that

>> No.72699151

Yeah, they have the best quality mini's of any third party supplier, they require pretty much no cleanup as well.

>> No.72699210
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Any Taufriends got advice for kitting out battle suits? I'm going to run them alongside warriors and hammerheads if that helps.

>> No.72699240

Missile pods and burst cannons. My friend plays the "advance for 40 with 4 fusion guns" commander and he is too rad for this world.

>> No.72699241


Inquisitors or most characters.

>> No.72699246

>post a question about an army on r*ddit with a picture of someone else's stuff, because I haven't had a reply here
>everyone starts asking questions about "my army" and saying how nice it looks, even asking for more pics, and totally ignore the question

You guys might be cunts but they're fucking braindead over there lel

>> No.72699269
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Fellow Orkchads, I'm looking to kitbash some Weirdboys. I ordered an AoS Wardokk and a Savage Big Boss. I'll make sure to base him right, but is the Wardokk big enough? There are surprisingly few pictures of him online. And any ideas for how I should do the Savage Big Boss? I'm almost considering leaving him as is because I think the model is cool, but I feel like I want a third Weirdboy.

>> No.72699272

Just don't post a pic then. Surely sites like dakkadakka exist for consistent on-topic threads?

>> No.72699319
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It requires a picture unfortunately. What size oval bases are the Attack Bikes and Land Speeders on, if you know the bikes are 75*42 and the tanks are 170*105?

90*52 and 105*70 are the options, I think they're the 105s, but they dont look 30mm longer than the normal bikes' bases.

>> No.72699358
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nice army, how did u paint the white?

>> No.72699367


Nice army dude moar pics?

>> No.72699372

was there any chaos big bad before abaddon?
do you thing he could get killed off at some point and replaced by some other chaos dude?

>> No.72699386


>Preds and Whirlwinds on oval bases
also nice army how did you paint the white

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Nice army you stupid fat cunt 90x52 i'd say

>> No.72699403
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>was there any chaos big bad before abaddon?

>> No.72699406


Horace Hershey.
post-Abbadabbadoo maybe Huron Blackheart or the Crimson Slaughter guy could become the new big bad if GW wanted

>> No.72699418

i meant lorewise, i know that chronologically horus was before abaddon but was huron or some other rando chaos lord given the spotlight in the lore ad abadabadoo is given now?

>> No.72699423


Lel, I don't know what I expected


Cheers mate, the more I look at them I think you're right about 90*52, 105 would be massive

>> No.72699440

People in general lack reading comprehension.

>> No.72699447

No, addaboo has been the big guy for chaos since 2nd ed codex

>> No.72699450
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There was that moment in late 4th or 5th (?) where they decided to make the Red Corsairs red and black instead of just being random marines with red cross on their armour, and it looked like they were setting them up as being the next Black Legion, but it never really happened. The codex focused more on newer rebels than the ancient legions.

>> No.72699479

All I see is one badass skittle that survived countless conflicts and his pedalist friend.

>> No.72699485

huron is so much more successful than abaddon it's not even funny.
it has been what, 300 years since the badab war and the Red corsairs already rival the black legion in ships and numbers, not to mention they have a blackstone fortess now too

>> No.72699491
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>Is that a feral cherubim? Leave it to us.

>> No.72699506

In fairness Abaddon gave them the blackstone fortress. It's also being invaded by clowns now.

>> No.72699517

iw have literally no defining features outside bumblebee stripes. They are just black legion reskinned with striped. iw bum boys act like they're a super unique legion but they're the same as the imperial fists, just a cheap reskin of the poster legion

>> No.72699545

>like cybernetics
>like big gun go boom and daemon engines
>actually build fortresses and rule over (dubiously) functional sodieties

>> No.72699708

People should stop thinking the warhammer community team know shit.
I remember when the Primaris were first introduced, one of the guys on the livestream was talking about how he was going to write about Seth becoming a Primaris marine.

>> No.72699739

What's the size on these guys compared to the new csm kit?

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>> No.72699778

Smol is no use, I need cohesion

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>> No.72699786

>People should stop thinking the warhammer community team know shit.
Isn't it their job to know this shit?

>> No.72699791

Their job is to hype shit, not know shit.

>> No.72700020

ok so incursors and inflitrators come from the same box
how does the assembly work?
are there enough bits to make 5 of each?
if i make 10 infiltrators what extra parts do i need to make 10 incursors? just 10 more legs/torsos?

>> No.72700092

>are there enough bits to make 5 of each?
>if i make 10 infiltrators what extra parts do i need to make 10 incursors? just 10 more legs/torsos?
The kits share everything except heads, different scope bits for the bolt carbines and back packs, and some accessories.
There might be enough bolt carbines since you get a few different options there, but you'd need at least new bodies, backpacks, and pauldrons

>> No.72700135
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man you would not beleive how long three dudes took to assemble.

>> No.72700166

Big steppy

>> No.72700172

How do I not get smashed playing csm vs grey knights? All my cool shit has the daemon keyword and the 4w smites fuck it up so fast

>> No.72700229

Screen with cultists

>> No.72700236

What about after turn 1 when the cultists are all dead as they are pretty much paper

>> No.72700337

Shoot them after they blow their smites on chaff

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