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Witch Thread 2
Witches. Talk about Witches. Post about Witches. Witches.

>> No.72588769

Witches are cunts who bathe in the semen of the demons they serve.

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>> No.72588892

I once read a story about three witches in steampunk not!Russia who enslaved a kid by driving nails into his heart. The most powerful of the three was a loli, but the author wasn't weird about it. Shit was pretty cool, yo.

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whats the name of the book?

>> No.72590170

It was a short story, and I don't remember. Sorry.

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I love urban fantasy witches.

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just pointing out that you don't need a pointed hat or even pants to be a witch.

though pointed hats are pretty top tier.

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Someone in the last thread needed young white-haired witches and I was reminded of one of the best girls in the Madoka Magica mobile game.

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I'd like settings where there are many types of witches.
The cute smol witches are the most common in towns with them knowing lots of smaller yet useful spells for everyday solutions.
The more formal collage witches work for the government and help other magic users in studies and know more combat and bigger spells.
Then we have the more traditional witches that are outcast and use more evil means of magic.
This magic could be very dangerous but a big that's holding it back is that many of these rituals are very complicated and most of the time kills said witch in the process. Many times they rely on potions that cause blinding and foul odors to attack enemies with close range spells or even short swords.

>> No.72592697
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When last we were on, we discussed the role of witches in feudal society.
And how they could be said to have their own power structure existing seperate of the nobility.

Each witch has their own desmene.
A collection of families or a small town of which they are THE witch.
The witch protects that charge. Not from bandits, not from invaders, and not from criminals. Matters involving the clashing of steel are what the nobility concern themselves with.
She protects them from spirits, curses, becoming undead. She is the wise woman they go to for their sickly and lost.
If you don't have a witch, you're free game. Anybody can transform you, damn your fortune, or raise you from the dead as a servant. Without having to fear retribution or having their magic undone.

What's still left to discuss:
What tribute would these people pay to the witch? Taxes like they do the lord?
Why would a ruler isolate themself in a tiny cottage in the wildernis?

>> No.72592973

ah yes, some cool witches in FFXIV.

>> No.72592979
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Consider the following.
That tiny cottage in the wildernis is like a fortress on a hilltop. You just can't see it.
All the spirits around it, all the plantlife and the animals, are loyal to the witch.
In any clash of magic, she has a distinctive advantage.
It has to be away from civilization because she needs to cultivate all sorts of life in a big chaotic garden to make it happen.
That's the strange and wonderous environment you have to walk through before you reach her.
The reason the cottage is tiny is because it's a poor witch, with only a single hamlet under her name.
A big city witch has her own tower with flying monkeys.

The witch doesn't collect a yearly stipend.
Instead, people donate whatever they can miss to her in order to come into her good graces and do their part helping the protection of their community.
The poor witch receives a basket with porridge and bread from the young girl in the red riding hood.
The rich witch receives handmade antique furniture from the local lord.
There's nothing official about her position. Nowhere is it put in writing that any land or village 'belongs' to her to be the witch of. She just has people that come to her for protection. That means no paperwork and contracts for what has to be collected, it's a fluid system.

>> No.72593002

It always kind of bothered me that that witch is clearly straight out of Dark Souls 3 but you could never have an army of skeletons in any Dark Souls game.

>> No.72593233

So where do covens and witchmasters come in?

>> No.72593493
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Covens are sort of like the HRE. Each witch is a power onto themselves, they just sort of pretend to follow the general leadership of whoever officially rules when it suits them. If they push it too hard though then they're likely getting a VERY stern telling off.

>> No.72593497

No one witch is all knowing. Perhaps nearby witches will have a sort of gathering place where they can share information with each other as necessary? Be it seeking a more experienced witch for advice, or sharing findings in one's personal studies.
A witchmaster could be a respected sage who maintains and protects the coven location, as well as facilitating discussion and disputes between the other witches.

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Look up "Witchsona Week" on whatever art platform or search engine you desire. There's a minor event for artists drawing witches, a lot of it is lackluster, but I can guarantee it's a good source of character art if you're willing to sift through the muck.

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>> No.72593665

You know what all of this reminds me of?
I mean actual historic Celtic druids.
They were the wisemen of their civilization too. And they got together in these forests to have their big yearly conference.
The only difference is, druids had the authority to crown kings.

Perhaps these witches are the remnants of the religious caste of a bygone age. When the people still worshipped the trees and rovers it were the witches that spoke for them.
The current ruling class introduced the current more organized religion, but they had to adapt it to witchcraft, because the population wouldn't have accepted it otherwise.

>> No.72593797

If there’s Witch-Doctors does that mean Witch-Lawyers and Witch-Accountants exist too?

>> No.72593823

witch noun
\ ˈwich \
Definition of witch (Entry 1 of 2)
1: one that is credited with usually malignant supernatural powers
especially : a woman practicing usually black witchcraft often with the aid of a devil or familiar : SORCERESS
— compare WARLOCK

warlock noun
war·lock | \ ˈwȯr-ˌläk \
Definition of warlock
1: a man practicing the black arts : SORCERER
— compare WITCH

merriam-webster definition

>> No.72593858


It's witch professionals all the way down...

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Yes. Magic users exist in all levels of society because everyone has need of their services as they do each other. Lawyers who are schooled in the legalise rituals of demons to help enact contracts, mid wives who live in out of the way villages to provide aid and medical advice to their charges, scholarly academics who study all manner of subjects from philosophy to alchemy to modern electronics. Investigators who help capture rogue magic users and solve crimes and help spirits pass on

>> No.72593950

We use witch to be the gender neutral term
It's more historically accurate

>> No.72593979

The witchmaster is the patron granting them their power. Obviously.

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Less bitchin', moar witchin'.

>> No.72594086

so it should be witch instead of warlock in the player handbook

>> No.72594195

It's whatever WotC wants it to be, it's all make-believe.

>> No.72594302

It's not like a witchdoctor does very doctory things. You don't see one practicing medicine.

>> No.72594321

Oh, they do, just not the healthy kind.

>> No.72595111

>not Oxford

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>> No.72595510

Pic reminds me of a comic I tried to make that never really came about.
Was about a teacher witch and a student witch set in modern times going around being magic doctors and exorcists and small scale monster fighters.

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>> No.72595623

Is there anything cooler but more impossible to implement in TTRPGs than Discworld witches?

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>> No.72596043

>tfw you want a big tiddy goth witch gf
>but you love jesus too much

>> No.72596078

Practical footwear is more important to witching than a pointed hat.

>> No.72596118

Witches don't lead but they make a point of making sure the leaders are looking over their shoulder or to the edge of the crowd to see how the witch reacts to what they do.

Witches don't have leaders, but some witches are more not the leaders than the others.

Witches are like cats. They didn't much like one another's company, but they do like to know where all the other witches are, just in case.

>> No.72596151

Or more likely the men in their societies didn't think a woman should have the symbolic authority to crown kings.

>> No.72596212

That was literally me in high school. Goody goody churchie asshole, ended up dating a wiccan girl somehow. We both got over religion later but she got a metalhead bf in college.

I think at the time I was just rejecting my goth and should have been more accepting of her hot topic clothes and pre-twilight vampire romance novels. You just learn these lessons too late.

>> No.72596334

>got over religion
>got absorbed by the all consuming void of nilisitic consumerism and bleak reality
Oof it feels weird when having faith is now the counter culture. Still man do what suits you and god bless you where ever life takes you

>> No.72596378

Don't worry, religion is only counterculture in the places in the world with the highest degree of learning.
It's still the vast majority.

>> No.72596409

Its funny but in a way the Wikka and New age movements might actually be examples of people wanting to go back to spiritualism in an age when such things are shunned and daddy issues and semetic broadcasts keep saying "church bad"
And then we get these threads

>> No.72596488

I was raised atheist and never had any religious customs, but as I got older I only gained an appreciation for god. But I must admit I'm a pantheist, and not a christian and don't really believe in that faith.

But a lot of study in science and philosophy has be convinced that there is a divine fate, since everything at least on the atomic scale and above is deterministic. So everything was meant to be. I mean even our chemical nature is deterministic to the point where we know of chemicals that can easily alter behavior and thoughts.

>> No.72596524

I admit I too have had moments where everything lined up so perfectly it was beyond belief.
Still if you want to talk science and faith, there is something very unique with humans, that we and only we have had the sentiance to make things go this far. Sure there are animals that have great memory and communication skills that we do, but none that have built pyramids or written a single word. And in that I think there is something very special, even supernatural about humanity

>> No.72596638

To me the really impressive part of the human species is language. Language isn't supernatural, but It does affect our consciousness. How we ever developed it I do not know. but being conscious of abstract concepts requires you to know them and usually its as simple as giving the concept a name.
And to me that's really interesting. because ultimately language has a physical element, its a wave pattern propagated through the air and translated into electrical impulses in the brain that can cause chemical changes. (or in this case its a bunch of physical strokes being turned into data that can be processed by the eyes). Either way language is something that does exist in a physical sense, but it shapes our consciousness and perception of reality, and we're fortunate to live in a time when so many abstract concepts can be communicated.

The fact that we have concepts like magic and witches that exist in our imaginations and collective culture, but yet don't exist in reality. that is definitely something interesting.

You're right about humanity is very special. Thank you all for being you.

>> No.72596679

>having faith is now the counter culture
Oof. No, anon, don't, that's a classic and ancient lie. It's nothing new.

The time period I was talking about was the early 2000's and EVEN THEN Christians insisted they were 'now the counterculture'. Don't believe that shit. They've been pushing that idea since the 70's, trying to make being religious sound like the rebellious move, the cool move, the countercultural move. It still isn't. And in my time they even sweetened the deal by making christian skater punks a thing and having good ska punk bands.

It's cancerous to religion in general because it ties being christian to being unique and special. Which means when that inevitably wears off most people drawn in by that strategy leave just as fast, because they were there for all the wrong reasons.

You'll either grow out of that way of thinking too or become twice as jaded for still believing your faith makes you special. Which just leads to a very unchristian mindset.

>> No.72596757

Octopuses have the potential and have built self-referential stone gardens, but their lifespans are what limit them from being like us. Dolphins lack the dexterity. Many birds are quite intelligent but also lack the appropriate lifespan to develop anything significant, but what little they crows have is a lot closer to an intelligent mind than we want to admit.

You have to be honest about what details make us unique so you don't fall off a cliff of delusions after confirming we're simply "special".

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Post witches.

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how do you have such a topical picture.

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A reminder that there is already a class that represents the whole witch thing of making deals with devils or hags or such. It's called the warlock class.

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My style of witch are loney girls that summon demons in their bedrooms to get back at the popular girls that made fun of them.

>> No.72598969

>Heathers but with Witches

I love it.

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I like the design of Dolly from this hentai. She's great if you want a sexy witch.

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Witches don't have to wear pointy hats.

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I recognize that witch

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>> No.72599929

Thematically does any setting actually make a real difference between witches and any other sorcerer/wizard/mage?

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witches are the greatest asset an upcoming warlord could have, the only question is, do you take the risk of keeping them around when you reach the peak of power and risk them stabbing you in the back, or strike them down first after they've given your journey a jump-start

>> No.72600148

Witch art seems very popular, like I see it posted on /r art a lot more then other fantasy stuff I think. Is wiccan or whatever more popular then I thought it was?

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old witches > young witches

>> No.72600203

Yeah, a lot of millenials are still bitter about being dragged to church and after going to college while still in the rebellious phase some settled on a replacement that would really get mom and dad angry, part of the whole "misunderstood" thing.

>> No.72600263

In the late 90s and early 00s my parents were the ones calling themselves wiccans and talking about magic shit. For me rebellion would be going to a church.

>> No.72600292

They're not all bad. Some are misunderstood. Some are good. A lot are just selfish kids who don't know what they're meddling with.
If you need to take one out, carve their image in a black walnut tree and drive an iron nail into the heart a little at a time over nine days.

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Guess you were ahead of the curve, or I'm behind it.
Anywho have a witch, I like hehesilly's style. It's cute and comfy.

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>> No.72601594

>Turning it into a fight against the patriarchy
Big oof and definitive cringe.
Nobody even said witches have to be female.

>> No.72601653

>trying to make being religious sound like the rebellious move, the cool move
It's not that calculated. It's just part of their mythos for their faith to be a single point of light in the darkness.
Christians will grab any handhold to reach the conclusion that they are a minority in a world of faithlessness.

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Witches have subtle powers. The ability to summon or banish invisible spirits and make them do things.
The role witches play depends entirely on their environment.

In the deep dark woods where evil spirits mess with humans all the time, witches are village elders.
They are treated with respect and reverence and rule over a community of people they protect.
They can be just or injust rulers, but they are at the top of society nonetheless.

In the fertile lands, protected by the gods, witches are criminals.
The power they seek out is redundant with the blessings of the faith in its ability to do good. It is only sought for its ability to do evil.
They keep their magic hidden and use it to curse enemies or torment victims.

In the wartorn wastes, witches are weapons.
Every big warlord has a witch by his side to throw and deflect curses aimed at him.
The witch can not be independent, their power is useful but not a direct counter against a man with a sword.

Magical devastation occurs when a culture with one custom conquers a culture with another, and tries to enforce the way they do it unto a region for which it is wholly inappropiate.
An empire from god-blessed lands trying to root out the witches in a deep dark wood will result in an unprotected population ravaged by werewolves and fey.
A ruler from the deep dark woods granting special positions to witchcraft practitioners in fertile lands gives power to evil and petty magic users to do as they please.

>> No.72603224

Look, I'm gonna be saying "Church bad" for the rest of my life as the church burned my books.

>> No.72603271

>tfw you're a druid girl living in the country and you offer a ride to a group of suburban white witch girls city who got lost but they got lost and they woke up the monsters the were sleeping in the corn and tried to commune with spirits living in an abandoned barn where your grandfather had sealed away a great evil generations ago.

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>> No.72603392

I like this concept
The antennae on the hat are a bit much though

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>> No.72603548

considering warlock means oathbreaker it's be more fitting to have this only be the term for those who betray their patrons or something.
but it ultimately doesn't matter much, it'd just be cooler

>> No.72603610

The rune scars are hella cool.

We make some pretty cool shit. I'd like to see animals get to make cool shit too, if only so we can get their entirely different perspective on things.

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Thoughts on witch boys?

I do know that, literally speaking, warlock just means male witch, but witch itself is a gender-neutral term, so why even split it? Personally, I dislike using warlock because I associate it with demons, hellfire, and casting explosive magic. Witches, on the other hand, I imagine as more subtle—curses, potions, and familiars, things that aren't show-y like how warlocks are typically portrayed in media.

>> No.72603861

Yeah, like an anti-paladin.

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I'm in favor of witch boys.
But I'm not opposed to having the profession be majority female or female supremacist.

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Which kind of environment has magic boarding schools?

>> No.72606123

Maybe if we bred crows to have significantly longer lifespans and their ability for language then we could get that.

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We might need to give them hands with opposable thumbs, too

>> No.72606570

>But I'm not opposed to having the profession be majority female or female supremacist.

If it's to the detriment of a male witch's capability, I most definitely am.

Think American Horror Story, "men suck at magic because testosterone inhibits access to the aetherial plane" bologna.

>> No.72606578

Dnd does you dolt

>> No.72606598

>wearing a wide brimmed hat indoors where there will not be any sun or rain that you need to ward away
>carrying a staff when you are not on a long overland hike
>wearing a robe when it's not cold outside

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>what are uniforms

>> No.72607948

Going barefoot is one of the most classic witch tropes dumbass

>> No.72607991

Not something a real witch would ever wear. Get that retarded harry potter shit out of here. Witchcraft is highly individualistic. The whole concept of uniforms is antithetical to it. The closest thing witches have to a "uniform" is being completely naked.

>> No.72608011

>Thoughts on witch boys?
Based as fuck.

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>> No.72608078

Can you guys post non-anime witches?

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I wish I did more with it, maybe I'll just write it or something. I dunno, I see it in my head more than words on a page if that makes sense.

>> No.72608168

>Reading books like some kind of nerd
That's a wizard.

>> No.72608213

Fucking this. Why is there so much pollution of the witch concept with wizard shit these days? "Academies" and the like aren't witchy at all.

>> No.72608250

Harry Potter and witch anime, dude.
Japanese exposure to witches is all from Harry Potter so they go "What if Harry Potter but only girls???" So they make all their witches girls in high school, which makes weebs make all their witches girls in high school.

>> No.72608258

Do you really need to ask?
>Hogwarts school of Witchcraft and Wizardry

>> No.72608276

Fucking weebs.

>> No.72608342

They're fine, but honestly the best way to do witches is as a fantasy equivalent to sending your daughter to a nunnery.

Poor as shit and can't feed your kids? Send your daughter to the witches.
Daughter too ugly to get a dowry? Witches will pay you for her.
Daughter accidentally set fire to the cat, but you're poor as shit? Those witches will take her off your hands.

Then the Witch covens teach the girls to be useful members of society through magical and nonmagical means. Fortune telling, potion making, culinary arts, medicine, curse removal, curse application, etc. All that she'd need to put herself down next to a village and not get chased away with torches and pitchforks.

Or they eat her. Fifty fifty shot at that.

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Do you not want to read with me anon? I thought we could study together for the test next Thursday......

>> No.72608356

See: >>72608078

>> No.72608384

This take is fucking excellent.

None of them, that's for wizardcucks.

>> No.72608390

Fuck off nerd. I'm 33 I'm not in school anymore.

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I hear potions is going to be a killer.

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I wonder who is behind this post.
>Fifty fifty shot at that.
Seems on the low end, to me.

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>> No.72608451

Instant death potions, or subtle poisoning potions?
I only have time to study for one of them.

>> No.72608455

Witches like to argue. And the only ones who will argue with a witch are other witches.

>> No.72608456

Wrong thread faggot. This is for witches. Fearless, feral, intuitive, cunning, wild women who thrive on the edges of civilization, who go without the trappings and restrictions of society. Their studies are communing with the eldritch spirits of the wood dancing and cackling madly naked in the moonlight in the darkest part of the haunted wilderness, their tests are survival.

The second you try to entrap and codify that power into something like a school or a system, it ceases to be witchcraft, it is the exact opposite of witchcraft.

>> No.72608495

Witches hate to argue, they just let you be wrong and fuck yourself over. You're thinking of wizards again.

>> No.72608542

Witch magic should all be built around the end result, and none of the theoretical musings of academic magics.
If it works, it isn't broken.
Scholars should be horrified at what dangerous spells and such that witches are tapping into. Luckily they lack the fine tuned skills needed to bring out the true depths of power.
Everything should look like a Gordian knot to a witch. Why waste time untangling it, when you can just cut it in half.

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Subtle, we aren't supposed to try instant death potions till after our 3rd Equinox here.

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I always liked the idea of Witch as a profession. Like every small town or village near the wilderness needed a local witch to take care of shit like hauntings, random fairy hill popping up in someone's turnip field, or a local farmer fucks up a fairy tree stump on their property and the town needs the local witch to handle the supernatural shit that happens in their day to day.

Kings, nobles and wealthy men in large cities and castles might have a court wizard or mage on their payroll but a witch is a profession for a small town that has to deal with smaller local level supernatural things more often that does not happen in larger cities.

>> No.72608587

>Why would a ruler isolate themself in a tiny cottage in the wildernis?
Because material things are mostly meaningless to a witch. Luxuries are just unnecessary crap to them, they are the kind of fierce creatures that could survive alone and naked in the most remote part of the woods even through the dead of winter, they are close to nature, self-sufficient, not reliant on the protections that the mundane masses need to keep themselves safe and comfortable. Wealth is a poor imitation of power. Witchcraft IS power.

>> No.72608588

One comparison I saw in an old thread was

Witches are to Druids what Alchemists are to Wizards.

>> No.72608592

Yeah, what's a good name for that kind of work? I'm thinking something simple like... Witcher?

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From last thread >>72570153

>> No.72608651

I'd actually say that witches are to druids what wizards are to clerics.

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that seems like a much better fit to me. there is still mysticism there but it's balanced by actual study and a more pragmatic approach

>> No.72608751

I mostly like the boarding school if it's more of an urban fantasy, 19th century to modern day. Nothing older than that.

>> No.72608779

Because a lot of people just take the term witch to mean female wizard

>> No.72608786

Witches love to boss people around. You get three witches, there's always one to boss the other two around if they start arguing about who the boss is.
Plus it sounds magical, which is good for convincing the peasantry.

>> No.72608822

No, witch is the professional title. Like baker brewer, mason etc. Every small town has their local witch to handle spirits, monsters, curses and other things.

I would have other names for apprentices and trainees who have not quite earned the Witch title yet.

>> No.72608824

In all fairness a witch writing down her grimoire of spells, brews and cooking recipes sounds absolutely thematically appropriate. It's not your chemistry textbook, it's your grandma's cookbook.

>> No.72608856

Witches should always be arguing and bickering about who has the most accurate anecdotal magical cures to problems.
>writing down her grimoire
I'm usually torn on if they should have a book, or just make everything an oral history. Don't want the sneaky village kids to steal the book while she's out on a house call and stir up trouble, after all.

>> No.72608903

>Witches love to boss people around. You get three witches, there's always one to boss the other two around if they start arguing about who the boss is.
That's dominance displays which is appropriately feral.

>Witches should always be arguing and bickering about who has the most accurate anecdotal magical cures to problems.
No, bickering is what wizards do. Witches just care about results.

>> No.72608919

A single grimoire penned by the witch herself or passed down from her mentor is fine.

A library is wizard shit.

>> No.72608961

Kind of liking this idea.
Only permitted to own one book, they fill it up, transfer whatever pages they want to keep into a new one, and then burn the old one.

>> No.72608984

Everything other than the "permitted" part sure. Who would make or enforce that rule? It would just be a smart practice.

>> No.72609012

The coven, obviously. They would have to have some amount of bureaucracy even if they all hate it. You can't just let a bunch of devil worshippers do their own thing completely unregulated.
That's how Witch Hunting Mobs get started.

>> No.72609013

>implying a witch wouldn't have some ruddy old bookshelf with a handful of old books on it

Having a massive library is wizard shit. Having a couple good reference books is practical.

>> No.72609046

You have the ancient generations, most of whom have never learned to read (and those who have wouldn't wish it upon anyone).
Then you have the slightly less ancient witches who find it more convenient to just write stuff down, despite the derision of the nearest crones. But they ain't got time for much of that reading business, so they don't like getting books together much.

>> No.72609364

I really don't see a problem with witches writing shit down. Magic is complicated.

For a witch I see their books being filled with depictions and names of herbs, stones mushrooms and other things and their magical properties and things they can be used for. It would be more like a journal or field guide.

While a Wizard book is more sigils, runes, gestures, magic circles, and other complicated shit like numerology, dragon language, detailed fractals that do magic stuff for rituals.

>> No.72609381

witchers are mobile hunters. Even in the witcher universe there are witches who are more about staying in a specific community and dealing with the supernatural in that community.

Witchers are male so they're hunters and journeymen who rove the country side looking for the biggest meanest things to slay, while witches are caretakers who stay in a community and mix potions and protect communities from the every day supernatural threats that may affect the community.

They both mix potions and use magic but they come at it from their two different gendered roles.

>> No.72609475

It's just flavor.
Some people want grandma's cook book style. Some people want generations old oral history style.
Both are good for different things.

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>> No.72609717

>xD sex!

>> No.72609760

do wizards fly nearly as much? Witches seem to be completely linked to flying on brooms and half their depictions show them in flight. But you never see a lot of flying wizards.

>> No.72609772

>What tribute?
They take care of their witch, and she takes care of them. A witch doesn't have to host banquets or pay knights like a lord, nor does she want people asking her to open the stores when the winter's been bad. She doesn't get a 'tribute' that way. But if her needs aren't met, she'll stand aside as the nightmares draw close.

>Why would a ruler isolate herself?
Her work requires quiet time with nature. Aragorn did the same.

>> No.72609791

Professional associations, for when there's a country sized problem as opposed to a village-sized one.

>> No.72610000

Way I see it, witches like to fly because it's a convenient way to get pretty much anywhere in the vicinity and it's not overly hard to do.
Wizards are more fond of magic gates and teleportation: it's showy, it's complex, it allows you to pop into a rival university to slap the lad who dissed your theorem on the effect of polygons on Mayer's flash spells.

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>> No.72610832

what 3rd world country do you live where they drag the books out of your house and burn them?

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Yeah, I think that's a good take.
It's sort of a gift economy. Nowhere is written down how much the witch is to receive each harvest, they just give her what they can miss.

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>> No.72612238

This is all nice and all but how would you introduce it all in game?

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So, this is a thing. I included it in the setting notes I sent out last week and I hope everyone at least glanced through them.

>> No.72612440

That's practical footwear for some forms of witching but not all. More practical than shoes in some cases, but when you're walking on sharp rocks to pacify the demon causing the nearby volcano to act up and you don't have on the appropriate boots, or when you're flying on your broom at high altitudes in autumn and you can no longer feel your toes, or when you stub your toe on the stone circle you're using for your rites, then tell me how you feel.

The old adage goes that you can do the dancing naked in the moonlight witchery if you want but it's mostly for looks or for fun and isn't really necessary to the trade.

>> No.72612551

Honestly, caligae would be good for most of them, particularly in swamps in warmer areas, but they'd also need stockings and proper boots for when it gets cold.

>> No.72612595

Witches do a lot of busywork around a small area where they live and work. Wizards spend more time in study, and when there's work that needs doing it comes to them.

The king needs a spell from the wizard who lives in the tower and doesn't get out much, the wizard doesn't go far and if he needs to then transportation will be provided. As a backup he can hold onto a teleport spell or of course use a broom, but he won't be seen on it daily, because you don't want to be riding it back from the pub on weekends.

Meanwhile a witch has to pick flowers that grow on the clifftops, delivery medicine to an elderly man, check on a woman who's expecting a baby on the outskirts of town, make sure her apprentice has milked the goats, see a family with a bedridden child, delivery mushrooms to the ogre in the hills and remind him of his deal to not go down into the valley to steal pigs to eat, and it's not even noon yet!

>> No.72612809

This immediately started playing in my head.

>> No.72613255

you included a bondage pic in your setting notes?

>> No.72613339

It's about the only way I can get them to look at it in the first place.

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>> No.72615546

you should read Owl People

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>> No.72615617

Who is it written by?

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it's cool comic about an agent that polices pixie/faerie related crimes
whether this agent is a wizard, a golem, someone sworn or punished to this duty is still still unknown
gonna post the first pages, see if it's to anyone's liking

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sauce is:

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Can an elf be a witch?

>> No.72616512

Witches in the office trying to salvage results for Q2.

>> No.72616574

How do you best torture a witch?

>> No.72616609

I'm thinking something involving feathers, rope, and a cooked chicken.

>> No.72617273

I think we all (especially on 4chan it seems) regret how failing to act like less of a sperg cost us some interesting romances in high school.

>> No.72618924

Please, do you have any pictures of traditional kid-eating witches that live in a gingerbread house?

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>> No.72619738

If the church is burning your books it's probably a good thing.

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>> No.72620473

I never understood the attraction to witches. I understand if they are an attractive women but the edgy magic doesn't really appeal to me. Also high risk of a witch being a tranny these days.

>> No.72620546

Are tranny chasers the modern witch hunters?

>> No.72620607

I can see a future in which people were portrayed as such.

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>> No.72621419

>Also high risk of a witch being a tranny these days.
That's why you only indulge a witch when she has really big tits. Beyond certain size they have to be either genuine or at least siliconed on genuine foundation. Let that be your guarantee.

>> No.72621428

Nah, never trust a person that doesn't treat their own dog right.

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Traditional, but gingerbread houses are serious business and the witch needs to be scarier. More like the ladies.

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>> No.72621583

>Person that beats their dog
>The best
Face it, if Zero was actually a dog you'd take 5 minutes into the first episode to admit how fucked up their relationship dynamic is.
She's a really poorly done Tsundere and I say that as a guy that likes a bit of Tsundere.

>> No.72621933

The myth of witches on brooms comes from people saying they were fucking the broom handle like a dildo. Hence riding a broomstick. Myths and such have fun backgrounds.

>> No.72622030

There are also claims they covered the broomsticks in hallucinogenic unguents which they took in through the vagina.

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>> No.72622437

Cool enough concept and world building, but the narrative itself is a mess.

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>> No.72624942

Why are players so dumb? My players are making their way to a witch so they can interrogate a bunch of ghosts. It's so ominous, I think they might be actually retarded for thinking this plan won't backfire./

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You can't expect them to have a common sense for your setting. They didn't grow up on in it IRL.

>> No.72626975

Are witches always evil in setting? Would they know that?

>> No.72627279

No, there's all kinds of different witch sects, but literally everything they know about this one was gained from a meeting from a bunch of angry villagers trying to round up support for a pitchfork lynch mob. They tuned out every bad thing she has done to the townies because some guy said that he overheard her talking to ghosts one time.
So now they're going to rush over to her before she gets pitchforked to get her to summon the ghost of the slain king (from The Spiritual Realm, aka, THE DARKNESS BETWIXT THE STARS) to ask who actually killed him.
It's like they haven't figured out that every encounter with magic involving death/life/spirits hasn't been a massive clusterfuck.

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>> No.72628119

Witch seems like mainly a human thing

>> No.72628148

Think more in universe. Witches are always depicted as flyers but it seems kind of rare to see a wizard flying.

And would a witch class get a much earlier fly skill than a wizard?

>> No.72628170

Because adventurers did not grow up in a world where they had access to horror movies. And magic people are incredibly common.

>> No.72628206

worked for Solomon when he got a witch to do it. Wasn't the Witch's fault the ghost had bad advice to give him

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>> No.72631383

Is she casting lightsaber?

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I've spent a few hours thinking about it and I just don't know. Is she pulling a spell out of the book or burning it? What is she fighting? Is the cat on her leg cutting lines in her skin? I dunno.

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>> No.72641240

I have to question why the one on the right only has one shoe.

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I purge the witches.

>> No.72642274
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Fire and Faith Brother

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They just keep adding shoes until they got it right. They are actually on show three.

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>> No.72645668

I reallylike this simple staff she has.

>> No.72646342
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This thread is fucked. Post actual, gritty and dirty haggish witches.

>> No.72646837

No you stupid fucker. Big titty young witches are all I want to see, not some babayaga style haggard worn out forest whore.

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>> No.72647274

Post your own, loser.

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I will, dork.

>> No.72647339

Keep it up, nerd!

>> No.72647344

within my own setting, 'Witch' is specifically a traditionalist female caster (a male is dubbed a Mystic), namely they practice strict master-apprentice system (never having more than three students) rather than teaching whole classes in an institution. Witches tend to also be fairly secretive out of necessity due to keeping their practices hidden not just from the eyes of their peers but also trying to keep from drawing the attention of more hostile supernatural forces which can have eyes and ears even in the everyday world. Generally witches also do not have much in the way of hierarchy beyond master and apprentice, a fully realized witch/mystic is regarded as peer to their former mentor in the eyes of the greater community, seniority and experience is considered but in theory, full covens will listen to the young as well as the elders.

Wizards are institutional, standardized, and mass produced through school and classes designed to teach a lot of people basics and theories to serve nobles and other ruling class than anything else. Ultimately, a witch/mystic approach to magic is spiritual, a wizard approaches magic as secular. So literally "soul" and "soulless"

Warlocks (a gender neutral term here) are expressly wizards or Witches/Mystics who are considered traitors to their respective order. Like a Witch/Mystic leaving to join a wizarding school, a wizard taking apprenticeship under a witch and forsaking feudal oaths, or some ballsy asshole who just outright backstabs their order (an act that, despite witches and wizards not getting along will blackball you on both sides). Apostates are warlocks who have literally submitted to themselves to hostile supernatural wills and carry out their dark work.

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FYI, I'm not the old witch poster. Just being mischievous :)

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>> No.72648194

Gritty meaning... realistic?
There are no real witches.

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>> No.72648261

They certainly existed throughout history ya dingus. Women who lived ostracized from society, typically had wort cunning, and due to this were said to be endowed with mystical powers.

>> No.72648273

Are you retarded?

Gritty is not a synonym for realistic.

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I like the concept of witches in Re: Zero. That they are beings who rose through various means to such power that their mere existence puts a strain on the magic of the world and they became calamities themselves.
They not only warp the laws of magic around them but also the rules of physics and even logic.

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Wow, what a funny and original joke, guys! Even though I've seen this "joke" a million different times in every thread about witches and elves I can't help but laugh! It gets me everytime! I just can't get enough of these repetitive and overplayed Crusader and Knights of the Nine references! You, sirs, are truly the epitome of wit and humor!

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>getting this buttmad because someone made a stupid quip

How do you even function in real-life with your autism?

>> No.72649904

Dilate tranny

>> No.72649951

Are you allergic to vaginas?

>> No.72650019

Are you trying to provide an example of irony? If you are than good job, you're doing amazing work

>> No.72650200

Thats a miss, spergmeister.

>> No.72650222

Oh, so you're just mentally retarded then? Cool.

>> No.72650277

You are aware that you are replying to two different anons, right?

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probably not, he did establish himself as not the brightest candle on tha altar earlier.

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>> No.72650714

Which would explain his tardrage over someone making a silly joke.

>> No.72650813

Lol no I was asking if vaginas make you ill, because you certainly talk like they do

>> No.72650828

That's a fantastic piece of art. Have any more along that vain, anon?

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Then what does it mean?

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I found it on /tg/booru and unfortunately no artist was named.

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What's the best rival for a witch?

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another witch, of course.

>> No.72651749
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Witches can't withstand the power of god.

>> No.72651974

To be fair if your enemy is literally god it doesnt matter what your profession is.

>> No.72652000

I have plenty of leather in my kit. I should make a witches hat.

>> No.72652144

>"big tiddy witches" to the tune of old turkey buzzard

>> No.72652438

>Covered in Grit
>Showing Courage or Resolve.

Tough basically.

>> No.72652865

>calling others virgins and sperges on a image forum for board game RPGs in a thread dedicated to softcore witch porn

Wow, I never knew terminal brain damage was a thing until now

>> No.72653183

Stay mad, loser.

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>> No.72653454

You not knowing that yourself exists does do pretty good job of showing terminal brain damage is a thing.

>> No.72653609

she shitposts

>> No.72654091
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What the fuck are you even trying to say, you inbred troglodyte?

>> No.72654194

I think he's trying to say "call me an ambulance, I'm having a stroke".

>> No.72654203

That you replacing your eyes with cocks was a stupid idea.

>> No.72654228

We would not need to call an ambulance if you did not rip ass

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>> No.72655364

Solomon Kane with a gun

>> No.72655382

This looks like western art Ursula

>> No.72655429

Should I roll an Archfey Tomelock?
I want a cute witch girl who plays with Pixies.

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Sauce on this artist please? The girl is super cute

>> No.72655609
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the artist Simzart https://www.instagram.com/simz.art/?hl=en

sure, why not?

>> No.72655641

Because Pact of the Chain would let me summon a sprite, but I want a spellbook and access to dank cantrips. :^(

>> No.72655692

I have 0 experience playing warlocks in 5e, mainly because I dm. So I don't know what to tell you.

>> No.72656014
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if you don't mind burning a feat you can take magic initiate to get access to cantrips. I used Ritual Caster on my hexblade warlock to get access to a familiar while still taking pact of the blade for similar reasons.

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We should probably start a new thread soon.

>> No.72656491

yeah, please, I lurk but I enjoyed some of the chat and ideas, and a lot of the art

>> No.72656530


his deviantart

>> No.72656580

Nice, a lot of good art there. Also, new thread.


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