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>> No.72452234
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>>72452212
I've actually started to read up on DC and worm again for my jumps and if you told me that Taylor was going to go Columbine on her school I'd believe it. Also reading up on Constantine has convinced me to stay as far away from him as possible.

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>>72452234
Curious though, How much of the setting of your jump do you know before you actually go through the deed personally? I've tended to have surface knowledge and then dive deep for more writing material.

>> No.72452297

Whoah boy. Looks like it's time for new house rules. I think that I have blocked every way a duplicate could potentially offer more, stronger, or cheaper options, so that each duplicate always makes the original jump strictly worse. I tested it out in Medaka Box and it basically just tovam's jump but it took out everything except powers, which it increased the price of slightly, and now you're forced to convince Maguro or Hitomi to come with you.

https://pastebin.com/c20Hm26C

>> No.72452312

>>72452255
Most of the time I go for shit I know personally to some small degree at least.

>> No.72452318
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What are good perks to see possible timelines, future outcomes, etc...? Not just passively receiving visions but actively looking for all possibilities.

>> No.72452343

>>72452255
Usually start jumping places Jumper knows first with the exception of roll-chains and when building around a theme. In those jumps while Jumper doesn't knows what is going on, I still read and learn on the setting before writing anything, and then build reactions and what happens to the plot based on Jumper's lack of awareness of the plot and trying not to fuck everything up

>> No.72452357

>>72452297
Why are you so autistic about this? What do you even gain from wasting your time here?

>> No.72452359

>>72452297
Nice houserules, have fun either being forgotten about or only used as shitpost fuel. People are either going to use whichever jump they prefer or use both, no one cares about kicking up a fuss except shitposters.

>> No.72452373

>>72452297
>Looks like it's time for new house rules
Glad we are on the same page

>now you're forced to convince Maguro or Hitomi to come with you
Nice taste

>> No.72452381

>>72452357
Why are you so autistic that you need to cheat at a single player imagination game? At least my autism makes the single player imagination game slightly harder on myself.

>>72452359
Except me, who will use duplicates as an excuse to limitwank even harder, which is why they're house rules.

>> No.72452392

>>72452381
If you’re genuinely just posting your own houserules then good on you, but it comes off as shitposting.

>> No.72452418

>>72452381
>Cheat
>Using jumps on the drive is cheating
Everyone thinks you're a shit poster.

>> No.72452451

>>72452418
I am a shitposter. That doesn't mean that getting pissy that a CYOA doesn't offer as much power as you want and finding another jump outside of /jc/'s traditional claims system which offers more power and using it instead isn't cheating.

>> No.72452476

>>72452234
>Also reading up on Constantine has convinced me to stay as far away from him as possible.
This is the appropriate response to Constantine. He's more or less a walking WMD. Yes, he'll "win" in the strategic sense but if you're anywhere near his victory it really won't be able to appreciate it.

>> No.72452488

>>72452451
>He's still crying about no one caring for his duplicate doomsaying from the previous thread

>> No.72452489

>>72452451
Man this isn’t even a power thing, I just want perks inspired by the unique parts of all the different characters instead of basic thing literally everyone has one, two, three and four. You know, like every other jump that’s come out in the past few year.

>> No.72452522

>>72452476
Sure as hell can't "win" against Darkseid.

>> No.72452530

>>72452522
Except when you can

>> No.72452533

>>72452489
So what, you want to be even weaker, and you think Valeria will create a jump that will cater to that desire? Bullshit. You want to have new powers which you didn't have before in your build. This will make you stronger. No jump will ever cover literally everything that happens. Go find equivalents in one of the other ~1500 jumps we have or make a jump of a fanfic or spin off like a normal person.

>> No.72452536

>>72452451
>bleach
>shinigami
>basic sword skill, basic skill of all shinigami, fairly decent but generic power boost, bankai which all the captains, plenty of lieutenants and everyone relevant to the shinigami side have
Wow. This is really exploring the unique aspects of the main faction of a 600+ chapter series. No one can possibly look at this and feel that it’s lacking. Nope.

>> No.72452562

>>72452359
>use both,
I just want to be a big mongrel in both. How about you, dude?

>> No.72452596

>>72452533
>or make a jump of a fanfic or spin off like a normal person
So this is the kind of retard that actually gets fooled by the fanfic/spin-off kayfabe. Didn't think they even really existed.

>> No.72452623

>>72452451
>/jc/'s traditional claims system
Is this the time where Master Chief is considered overpowered and dragon ball... Z is the endjump?

>> No.72452630

>>72452533
>So what, you want to be even weaker,
Nice job putting words into my mouth
>and you think Valeria will create a jump that will cater to that desire?
I think her jump will be bigger and capture more character of the series than the current one
Bullshit. You want to have new powers which you didn't have before in your build.
Yeah I want some power, but I’m not in it for The Almighty of Hogyoku, just some content that’s actually unique
>This will make you stronger. No jump will ever cover literally everything that happens.
But anyone can do a better fucking job for variety than what the current jump has.
>Go find equivalents in one of the other ~1500 jumps we have
By that logic there’s no point in making any new jump then, because there’s sure as fuck equivalents for whatever you’d put in it.
>or make a jump of a fanfic or spin off like a normal person
So a jump that literally has the same content that’d go in a Bleach jump would be okay if instead it was for Bleach: Minor Spin-off 3? At that point there is literally no difference between the two and it’s completely pointless aside from easing your rampant autism. The only person here with standards that shit seems to be you.

>> No.72452643

>>72452596
Everyone knows that German Hollow Quest was meant to get around the replacement restriction. But it followed the rules, because there is no rule against fanfic jumps the way there is against replacement without permission or against duplicates. The duplicates wouldn't get near as much shitposting if they'd just follow that established procedure, but of course people are clamoring for duplicates with permission because they want to inch closer to duplicates without permission.

>> No.72452661

>>72452643
>the duplicates won’t get as much shitposting if they cave to my shitposting
Yeah, because that’s sure to discourage the shitposters.

>> No.72452686

>>72452297
Why would anyone use this?

>>72452451
This is literally the most autistic response I have read in a while, forcing your assumptions on others and then raising a fuss about it in the same post makes no sense, please stop.

>> No.72452697

>>72452522
>Memeseid
Waifu villains really are the worst.

>> No.72452737

>>72452697
Writers who waifu their characters are the worst, regardless of the type of character.

>> No.72452795

>>72452686
Judaism has a practice they call "fencing." They know something is wrong, but don't know what the exact criteria that separate it from acceptable behavior is. So they ban anything even vaguely close to it, so that they never get to the edge cases. The fiction being carried forth in Jumpchain is that people submit jumps, the thread reviews them for balance, and balanced jumps are accepted. We all know that's not true, but there's no good way to replace that checking without rewriting every jump myself. So I perform fencing. I see something totally outrageous that should not be acceptable, and then I go back and nerf all my builds to remove anything even vaguely similar. So, people (me) would use it to avoid having our builds grow too powerful despite the goal of this game being to choose the best options out of a list of presented choices. Obviously, right now when I see multiple jumps for the same property I know to ignore the one by Valeria, but it's obvious that won't always be the case. Rather than having to figure out which one was the original and whether or not the new one had permission for a replacement, I need to do this instead.

>> No.72452803

>>72452234
You know man, I *was* gonna make the OP this time. Update it; take out those (embed) tags that are pointless, update the >How to Jumpchain so it's not broken anymore-even toss in a surprise. And literally the instant the last thread dies, you toss this in once again-and the shitposters go to town.

I'm gonna head to sleep. Next time, let someone else make the OP.

>> No.72452843

How dangerous is Youjo Senki? How well would you fare if you jumped Nanoha beforehand?

>> No.72452862

>>72452318
time lord from supergod
that one capstone boosted medium perk from justice league dark
timestone powers from Marvel Cinematic universe vol.1

>> No.72452864

>>72452795
>despite the goal of this game being to choose the best options out of a list of presented choices
Weird, I thought it was to have fun. Shows what I know.

>> No.72452865

>>72452843
Gud, its ww1 with mageek, just watch out for the goddo Xzibit

>> No.72452870
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Did I miss something?

Waiting for the coffee to kick in and I'm going to do some outlines today for the jumps. Strike Legion is likely to be totally outlined first but I'll show off some DC 1 Mil stuff as I chip away at it. I think the biggest pain in the ass is going to be making any unique items for the former considering what Legionnaires get for standard operating equipment.

>> No.72452896

>>72452870
Valeria asked permission from REBORN to do a duplicate of Bleach and got it. Weird how people like you have been agitating for the ability to make duplicates for so long, considering that we've always accepted duplicates as long as the jumpmaker gave permission. Almost as if Valeria were lying about that having always been the rule about duplicates, just as she concocted an elaborate lie to get her Medaka Box duplicate accepted.

>> No.72452898

>>72452870
>Strike Legion is likely to be totally outlined first but I'll show off some DC 1 Mil stuff as I chip away at it.
C-cute.

>> No.72452900

>>72452870
Inukami, a wall of text about Fallen London/Sunless Skies, and L O T S of shitposting.

>> No.72452907
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Since Medaka Box seems to be the theme of the thread, anyone up for posting their latest builds?

Origin- Minus

Trampling On Your Dignity-50
Clinging With Your Feet-50
[Guest Artist]-Free
[Minus Me]-Free
[Just Like Me]-100

PARASITE SEEING-100
[Standing Ovation]-100
[Lonely Wedding Party]-100
[Five Focus]-100
Verbal Hurricane-100
Jinx Style-300

[Black Ogre]-Free

>> No.72452921

>>72452843
Youjo Senki is alt history WW1 with magic. So the biggest danger is some form of artillery shell or equivalent magic spell hitting you.
I am fairly sure the better mages in Nanoha can tank that. Though obviously depends on where you put your points in both jumps.

Then again I think you can be a civilian in YS and be far from the front if you dont want to fight.
Last thing worth mentioning is that Nanoha magic is terrible at causing lethal wounds if you wanna get on the offensive

>> No.72452926

>>72452864
Fun is obtained by making builds. If you just wanted to have fun writing free form self insert fanfic without jump documents and builds, you'd be on fanfiction.net instead of /jc/.

>> No.72452938

>>72452926
I can make builds without the 'best' choices.

>> No.72452952

>>72452870
Reborn okay’d Val doing a new Bleach jump. So shitposters started shitposting, autists started shitposting, and some people are really happy and excited about it. Val seems really psyched up about it, which is nice to see.

>> No.72452975

>>72452870
>Strike Legion is likely to be totally outlined first but I'll show off some DC 1 Mil stuff as I chip away at it
Nice, looking forward to it. Hope you have fun with it Heavens!

>> No.72452981
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>>72452896
I stopped arguing for that mostly because I realized I was yelling at a brick wall and there was no point until I actually had a finished product, and my will to make said duplicates kinda died for unrelated reasons. Hi, Doctor Who. I have no idea what else goes on around here and I've given up trying to make sense of it, I just want to make stuff and subject people to my terrible SI fanfiction.

Anyway, I don't have any meaningful way to influence any of this, so...se la vie?
>>72452900
>>72452952
Got it, thanks you two.

>> No.72452982

>>72452938
Only if you're playing a retarded character. Otherwise, any sane person would look at their goals and desires and choose the options which best fulfill them. You'd get people who want harems choosing gardening and fighting perks rather than charisma, appearance, and harem perks, which would probably not be very fun for them at all.

>> No.72453007

>>72452982
>The Record the Recording line of build-making.
You would be well received over on SB.

>> No.72453011

>>72452921
>Last thing worth mentioning is that Nanoha magic is terrible at causing lethal wounds if you wanna get on the offensive
That's only because of their safety system, no? If they desactivate it the lasers become lethal or something

>> No.72453012

>>72452981
>Anyway, I don't have any meaningful way to influence any of this, so...se la vie?
You, as a long time namefag, could admit that Val is lying when she claims that duplicates have always been allowed with permission, thereby giving shitposters less ammunition to claim that this has always been acceptable.

>> No.72453051

>>72453007
>Dur hur hur I wanted to be good at science but I took all these cooking perks instead for some reason! SO WACKY!

>> No.72453079

>>72453051
>Dur hurr hur I optimize every build even though I have broken the power curve of settings within the first few jumps! SO INTERESTING!

>> No.72453090

>>72453051
Way to exaggerate. Builds don’t have to be min-max no fun zones. You can stick to a theme without being a monofocused, tunnel vision autist that spurgs out at the idea of doing something different every now and then.

>> No.72453093

>>72452870
>Strike Legion is likely to be totally outlined
Huzzah! I've been wanting a Strike Legion jump for ages. Really really looking forward to seeing your work on it when the time comes.

>>72452981
But ah please don't help them derail this thread with their bitching too. We already got plenty of that last thread.

>> No.72453148

>>72453090
Optimizing for fun is no different than optimizing to be some kind of SB stereotype murder machine. You're still choosing the best options by some criteria, and therefore having options which are too good can ruin the game by being too much fun or too strong, or too whatever.

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>>72453093
I think my biggest issue with Strike Legion is making any kind of unique items since again, Legionnaires get an insane arsenal at base. Perks are easy enough, they're mostly the skills associated with specialties dialed up to 11. Items? Eeegh. I don't want to just copy paste what's in the equipment chapters but I don't know how the hell I'm going to top what's already in there.

>> No.72453185

>>72453148
It feels like a meaningless complaint if you make it this broad.

>> No.72453195

>>72452921
>Last thing worth mentioning is that Nanoha magic is terrible at causing lethal wounds if you wanna get on the offensive
Apparently that's because the spells are normally configured that way and barrier jackets offer additional protection. It would make sense given that iirc Mid-Childan magical combat was mostly developed as an alternative to mass weapons used that Ancient Belka that caused huge loss of life and environmental damage.

>> No.72453206

>>72452921
>the biggest danger is some form of artillery shell or equivalent magic spell hitting you
So the presence of magic doesn't significantly escalate the firepower used in the war?

>> No.72453213

>>72453148
>Optimizing for fun
>optimizing
>fun
Yeah that’s the thing, I’m not optimising. Optimising for fun? Do you have any idea how autistic that sounds? Play your chain with a theme, don’t ignore the good stuff for it, but just grab some interesting or different stuff every now and then. Christ, how is it so hard to get the idea that I’m not hyper min maxing or completely ignoring good stuff, just running a more balanced chain.

>> No.72453290

>>72453185
>>72453213
And yet there are still options that fuck up even this. Let's say I want to have fun on my chain. So I go to Gen 13 and take Gen-re Roulette. I now have the power to snap my fingers and turn every setting I jump into a Slice of Life Porno genre. Warhammer 40K? Platoon? Black Bullet? I instantly get to ignore all their problems and have silly fun adventures and sex with tons of hot women. In fact, the difference between worlds are now incredibly minor, and my jumps are now just "I fuck a Sister of Battle", "I fuck an anime girl", "I fuck a soldier girl," etc. I've barely got anything to do any more in my chain, except maybe grab a holodeck or something for some 3D video games. This is an example of a perk I've banned from my chain not because it is too strong and breaks the power curve, but because it is too fun and breaks the happiness curve.

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>>72452234
>>72452255
You are right on both accounts.

Also it really varies I guess? As a writer there's some stuff I'm familiar with, some stuff I'm less familiar with and some stuff I got sucked into researching for Jumpchain. As a Jumper, I usually assume despite there being worlds with fictional media written in them there are vast nuances in the actual settings the fiction can't encompass.

Depending on the actual world, this can vary from not knowing what a lightness in breath and spirit you actually feel when you cast a Patronus that makes you want to laugh from sheer happiness. Or-

>"SUPERMAN HOLY SHIT HOW DID YOU LAUNCH THAT MIDGET OUT OF YOUR HAND SUCH POWER IS FORBIDDEN I SHOULD KNOW"

>>72452297
I've only ever used or needed one houserule myself, and that's the one that me have recurring enemies across jumps. It's technically a quasi-houserule given some jumps have drawbacks that are just "your old enemies show up again because reasons"

>>72452318
Mind of God from Tsukihime and Observation from either Blazblue jump

>>72452870
I cooked too much onion soup and had to drink it all, and now I can't run for shit.

>>72453051
But being the best scientist logically includes being the best chef. It's a type of chemistry.

>>72452795
I don't think it's a good idea to use ideas from major world religions in a self insert fanfiction game, myself. Taking that to it's logical outcome we would thank the Almighty every morning for the miracle of jumps by entering into a period of fasting, alms and self-flagellation. Which would greatly slow down jumpmaking.

>> No.72453315

>>72453290
Instead of banning it from your chain why don't you just not take it when you go to the jump and take other stuff instead?

Why do you need to treat your self insert fanfiction like an accountancy sheet?

>> No.72453343

When will the retards, liberals, and soiboys just learn to fucking accept the one rule of JumpChain
Valeria. ALWAYS. Gets her way.

>> No.72453372

>>72453315
Because the premise of Jumpchain is that it's one of those CYOAs where a supernatural entity comes up and offers you choices in character. And I would have to be extremely dumb not to pick this power that obviously solves most of the problems I could ever face and gives me much of what I want forever. So the option has to be removed, or else I would choose it, because choosing the options I like best is the literal entire premise of CYOAs.

>> No.72453399

>>72453206
not really what the mages really add is mobility cause they can fly. Not as high as some planes but quite maneuverable. Also a company of mages can cause significant explosions on their own.
Other spells shown are optical illusions to fool the enemy and personal barrier shields(those however vary highly in quality)
Have a few scenes from the anime but keep the follwing in mind:
The MC, who looks like a blond child and her company are extremely elite. they do not represent the average mage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Szxwn9V1Cfg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1hIT71Elu8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9Bhn6fvUik

>> No.72453409

>>72453163
Well besides the obvious of bought items respawning as well as refilling their ammo and fuel and letting you import shit? Give a bunch of them with each purchase plus blueprints so you can make more. Now you can relatively easily outfit your own teams of super duper space solders with some of the best tech out there.

Also you better have a refilling supply of drugs item. I want my totally not The Spice Melange damn it!

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>>72453206
>So the presence of magic doesn't significantly escalate the firepower used in the war?
It means a person who can fly can also hit with the power of an artillery gun.
But mages are fairly rare.

>> No.72453425

>>72453372
Why do you need specific rules for this when you could just take a look at each jump when you get to it and decide if there are things that jumper can't pick.

>> No.72453445

>>72453372
>>72453372
The premise is also that you have to entertain them, with it being adventure that they seek for entertainment. It's literally written into the first jump and before you start shitting this place up with 'but anything is entertaining' actually read the pokemon jump. It outright says that the benefactor saw that all earthly exploration and adventure ran out and they want to see some more adventures.

If you're ignoring that part, you don't need to go with the idea that you pick every jump and perk either. You can change things. Most people use at least minor house rules because not much is officially set down.

Choosing options is the entire premise of a CYOA. It's not CTOYLM or Choose the options you like most. It's Choose Your Own Adventure. So stop choosing a boring as fuck adventure and blaming it on everyone else you lazy shit.

>> No.72453470

>>72453372
>>72453425
>>72453445
Can you two get a room? Or even better just let each other have fun their own way without screeching that the other guy is doing it wrong?

>> No.72453496

>>72453470
>two
There's three of us. But yeah, okay, I can drop it.

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>>72453372
There are many ways you could write a character to make that "extremely dumb" decision. They could be inexperienced and overconfident that they could get a similar perk at a future date. They could already have sufficient power to not require yet another 2X boost to strength when they could take up the viola or learn to talk to seagulls instead. They could simply arrive at that jump at a later point of their story.

In any case I'm struggling to understand what your issue with taking the best option is from a narrative point of view. You act as though people do not typically take the best options there are in regular CYOAs, as if for example there was some inherent virtue to being a manlet in Be the Monster CYOA. I don't understand what's wrong with having "too much fun" with Jumpchain, that is literally jumping correct.

Furthermore, I absolutely don't understand what any of that has to do with being forced to convince Maguro or Hitomi in particular with you. That has nothing to do with choice at all. That is in fact, the reverse of choice. Which is the reverse of fun. Which is the inverse of the intent of Jumpchain.

I mean, if having houserules makes the experience more fun for you then more power to you. I'm just struggling to grasp what it actually adds to the experience when it seems as though you've made up your mind about what you want to take, and in that regard you are "optimising" for a specific kind of experience in jumpchain without regard for any external justification.

>>72453206
I understand that in one case, magic is actually a detriment because the protagonist's enemy faction's mage is hugely unpopular and prone to friendly fire.

>> No.72453521

>>72453470
This is what happens when you let anti-Valeriafags have the right to speak.
Endless shitposting.

>> No.72453523

>>72453425
>Why don't you make ad-hoc rulings about every single jump document you use, basically rewriting every jump you take.
Because that's a lot of effort. At that point, why even use jumps at all? I'm basically deciding on my own what I think is or is not a balanced self insert character, rather than using someone else's estimation of how to make one.

>>72453445
Jumpchan is also entertained by 9 to 5 and Oreimo. And by Mary Sue self insert Isekai stories. If you use QQ jumps, she's also entertained by porn. Unless you're saying those are all trap jumps, and also that you have to maintain a strict power curve for yourself even though she's the one choosing your jump order, then yes, basically anything is entertaining. In fact, I'd be pretty entertained myself in character.

>> No.72453555

>>72453523
No anon. Jumpchan/Benefactor outlines the sort of entertainment they see at the start. If you're not using house rules on that already, you need to be searching for adventure in those mundane jumps.

Don't be a faggot and cop out by saying you're entertaining no matter what you do. You're already 'cheating' at the game.

>> No.72453567 [DELETED] 

>>72453470
People were doing that but then anon decided he wanted to shitpost. Unless you think he was suddenly posting those house rules about the two Medaka Box jumps right after a massive argument about duplicates out of coincidence

>> No.72453583

>>72453514
Oh, I just like to shitpost by showing off how, when everyone else is struggling to find ways to pile ever more power into their builds, I'm doing the opposite by finding excuses to limit what I get from the chain. I find fun in looking at options and trying to find the best builds. Having everything laid out for me on a silver platter with obviously optimal choices ruins that. I've always thought you were similar, given that you don't take your own builds' powers seriously and instead mess around talking about achieving things by comboing cool options from things like Exalted or Mage rather than boring but optimal perks.

>>72453555
Blame the writers of non-adventure jumps for shifting the narrative, then.

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Why would Jumpchan need an entertainer? And how could you even understand what such an entity would find entertaining or not in the first place?

>> No.72453606

>>72453523
I would have left this alone but this is genuinely baffling to me.

>Because that's a lot of effort.
Its literally the least amount of amount.

>basically rewriting every jump you take.
Why would choosing to pretend certain options don't exist for convenience require you to do this?

>why even use jumps at all?
Because the rest of the jump is fine, you just need to ignore one specific thing?

>I'm basically deciding on my own what I think is or is not a balanced self insert character
Yeah?

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>>72453514
>as if for example there was some inherent virtue to being a manlet in Be the Monster CYOA
Become one with the speed, as much speed as possible. The magic is nice too

>> No.72453621

Can we just ignore the shit poster?

>> No.72453635 [DELETED] 

>>72453567
And continuing to argue back and forth with the autist all thread helps how?

>> No.72453650
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>>72453602
Because they're actually very lonely and can't fully leave the dimension they're stuck in without breaking literally everything. Or at least that's how I rolled with it a few years back. I haven't forgotten the reveal /jc/ was just a bunch of grumpy middle-aged ladies.
>>72453409
Good point, I can probably do that. At minimum the base equipment for Legionnaires will be described to give an idea of the scale here.
>spoiler
Will probably be in the jump in some form. Or at least the ability to make some.

>> No.72453695

>>72453606
>Its literally the least amount of amount.
Having to go back and think "Hmm, is this balanced?" over every single perk I read is actually very draining and demotivating. Having a small set of rules and comparing each option to them is much faster and easier.

>Why would choosing to pretend certain options don't exist for convenience require you to do this?
What if I don't want to completely remove them? What if I think certain powers would be fine if they were slightly more limited? In fact, this is almost always the solution, limiting a power to only work on other powers from the same setting so that I only have to consider it's impact across one jump instead of all the ones is usually fine.

>Because the rest of the jump is fine, you just need to ignore one specific thing?
Jumps that have problems this severe usually have many, many problems.

>> No.72453696

>>72453621
Which one do you think is the shitposter?

>> No.72453698

>>72453583
>I'm doing the opposite by finding excuses to limit what I get from the chain
>Why would I ever buy anything but the best perks?

>> No.72453700

>>72453650
I also assume one of the items is gonna be the Legionnaire Process itself?

>> No.72453713

>>72453650
>spoiler
Then it must be jumpers job to fuck her and marry her then.

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>>72453696

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>>72453700
Yeah. I was thinking everything you need to recreate the Legionnaire Process and/or its equipment was going to be a capstone item or perk for science types. Thinking about it, even the base tech perk is going to be absurd considering the Republic's tech and raw power advantage over the Imperium's mass produced numbers.
>>72453713
>cites the spoiler
Are you referring to individual benefactors or everyone in /jc/, Anon? Do...do you have a thing for middle-aged ladies who argue on the Internet?

>> No.72453735

>>72453698
Imagine banning Wizards and Clerics in DnD so that it's actually worthwhile to play a variety of classes rather than the otherwise obviously correct choice of playing a full caster.

>> No.72453736

>only min max
>don’t take any power at all
>guy was actually just advocating something in between
Why are the two extremes the only options?

>> No.72453743

Making jumps was a mistake.
Making these threads? Also a mistake.

>> No.72453746

>>72453696
The one that said he was a shit poster twice.

>> No.72453767

>>72453736
Guy was actually just shitposting. He said he was. He immediately posted rules about Medaka Box right after a big argument involving it. He is shit posting. You probably are too.

Can we all just shut the fuck up and move on to something that isn't shitposting or referencing shit posting?

>> No.72453771

>>72453650
>spoiler
But are they cakes or not?

>> No.72453774

>>72453695
I don't mean to insult you, but do you actually have some kind of autism? Because if you do and these rules are helpful for that, that's fine, but to me they seem like the highest effort, most draining and demotivating way to go about making builds. I certainly wouldn't say they are faster or easier.

>What if I don't want to completely remove them? What if I think certain powers would be fine if they were slightly more limited?
Then you just quickly houserule that instead, no problem.

>Jumps that have problems this severe usually have many, many problems.
If I came across a jump as bad as you are describing, I just wouldn't use it, honestly.

>> No.72453796

>>72453734
Yeah the Repuplic is somehow much better at tech including some ridicilous references. But then again thats only in comparison.
Weighted against other sci fi verses the Imperium is really good in many aspects.

>> No.72453820

>>72453734
Your forst mistake is thinking that I read the argument
Or even read your post all the way through

Reading is for nerds

>> No.72453845

>>72453774
I mean, the specific rules at the top of the thread are the most complex I've ever had to do, due to the complexity inherit in trying to merge multiple jumps together and define what the weakest of all the merged options would be. My other rules are much more straightforward, like "No option from one jump may by fiat reduce, remove, or replace the costs or requirements for using a power from another jump." It's not autism, it's the result of having played horribly complex and broken systems like Exalted and seeing exactly how wrong they can go if you don't exactingly spell out every contingency that might come up in your attempts to fix them.

>> No.72453848
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Jump 36
Archer
Origin
Scientist - 0
Perks
Phrasing - 0
Weapon modifications - 0
engineering - 100
mad biologist - 200
robotics - 300
Sploosh - 600
Drawbacks
bullet magnet + 200
>be jumper
>get roped into joining ISIS
>not terrorist ISIS
>not much of a difference
>more friendly fire and autism in this ISIS
>get shot
>a lot
>like an incredible amount of bullets hit us for a normal lab tech
>sometimes have to hunt down rogue Krieger clones that get out of containment
>other times get used as a guinea pig for weapon and armor testing
>sometimes Kriegers weeb anime waifu projector hits on us
>one day just don't show up for work
>they don't seem to notice
>still get shot at though

>> No.72453855

>>72453734
>Are you referring to individual benefactors or everyone in /jc/, Anon? Do...do you have a thing for middle-aged ladies who argue on the Internet?
Cosmic lonely milfs sound kinda hot desu.

>> No.72453869

What happens if yoy go the wrong way through a stargate?

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>>72453855
Who's the oldest-looking human you've ever romanced, /jc/?

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>>72453734
When you do the Imperium side of things, is there going to be anything for the ridiculous eugenics they get up to? What with everyone technically being related to the Empress and the fact she wants to replace the entire population with the Exalted ubermensch?

>> No.72453898

>>72453602
Because Shatner is written the script of Jumpchain V

>> No.72453915

>>72453845
Okay, but with your Exalted houserules, I imagine you have a group actively working and testing the breaking points of the rules, whether intentionally or otherwise.

In a single player game, if you don't want something to break, you can just choose to not break it right? I don't really see the need for these sorts of rules.

>> No.72453919

>>72453898
>written
*Writing, god dammit

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>>72453796
I nearly typed 3 paragraphs on conjecture for the tech gap before remembering this setting does not take itself seriously at all. Still, sounds about right to me.
>>72453820
No Anon, you are the nerds.
>>72453855
...damn it, you're right, it does.
>>72453891
Probably. I'm not sure if the Imperium will be easier or harder to write than the Star Republic side of the jump, which is focused on the titular Strike Legion. I appreciate the amount of detail the former gets.

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>>72453869
They're strictly one-way, from the dialing gate to the receiving gate.

Trying to go through the wrong way results in you going into the receiving gate, which means that instead of converting you to energy it tries to convert your energy into matter. If that doesn't fuck you up, the travel through the wormhole will be fatal. And /then/ you pop out of the dialing gate, which means it'll convert your matter into energy and you just kind of explode if you managed to actually get through somehow.

>> No.72453965

>>72452907
>what i did
Do not fuck retarded teenage girls.

>> No.72453971

>>72453915
Without a group, what defines what broken is? Canon powers are obviously fine. Giving yourself every power you could want by sitting in a hyperbolic time chamber for a bit is obviously broken. But there's a spectrum between those two extremes. Ideally, the thread would be making the decision, so that sometimes there would be powers I thought were too strong but other times there would be powers I thought were okay but which the thread vetoed, so it would balance out. That doesn't happen, and I don't want to have to make an individual, ad hoc ruling on every perk I see, hence making a small number of general rules instead.

>> No.72453980

Friendly reminder that no matter how often you bring up Medaka Box, Valeria still won that exchange.
And we are at this point because you willingly let her do so.

Fucking simps.

>> No.72453983

>>72453921
The reason for the tech gap is easily explained. Its Furrry Utopia rising up against those who wanted to supress them in the past. Like with most things SL is not suble about this point. But yes insetting it makes very little sense for it to be so huge.
But then I remember anti gang warfare apparently requires Legionaires and repeat the MST3K Mantra

>> No.72453991

>>72453921
>I nearly typed 3 paragraphs on conjecture for the tech gap before remembering this setting does not take itself seriously at all
I mean I'm not that guy, but I'd like to read your 3 paragraphs of conjecture on the tech gap. Reading nerd fanwank for settings I like is half the reason I hang around /tg/.

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>>72453583
Oh. I feel silly now, I was seriously trying to work out the logic behind Maguro or Hitomi.

I guess I both do and don't take my builds' powers seriously? Many threads ago I said I disagree with the Stan Lee stance of "the writer decides whoever wins in a fight" but that's qualified by me theorising ways for the seemingly superior force to lose in ways which, if implausible and difficult to achieve, make a certain sense within the internal logic of the setting and narrative by playing with it's grey areas of certainty.

I think I've said several times how much I'm looking forward to eventually writing the Oasis of Fantasy build after waiting for the LB6 update to Garden of Avalon. As I've said before, my frustration with A CERTAIN DC RETCON ABOUT HUMANS has made me slot a lot more DC/Marvel jumps earlier than Fate in my chain, as well as set Exalted, Chuubo and KSBD much earlier because I wanted to preserve the story coherence of the wonder and majesty felt by my Jumper upon arriving in them. I believe I've also said Oasis is the jump where Jumper screws up, burns bridges with people he cares about and utterly destroys himself.

To be clear and without boring you with the mechanics or relevant Skills and other traits from Nasuland: This will not change. Oasis, much of Fate really, WILL be a humbling experience to teach someone who's never actually tried to destroy an entire multiverse how hard it is to get the pieces moving.

>>72453602
The ambiguity of entertainment for Jumpchain has been written as a kind of Sword of Damocles for my Jumper. For all his power and wisdom, he's never quite figured that out what's "optimal" entertainment and his Benefactor refuses to tell him how well he's doing.

>>72453618
But do you really want to be feared by the gods as that zippy boi who could fly up their ass and crawl out their mouth in the time it takes for them to blink?

>>72453650
Maybe the real grumpy middle-aged ladies were the friends we made along the ay.

>> No.72454011

>>72453971
>Without a group, what defines what broken is?
What you (the player) think it is.

> Ideally, the thread would be making the decision
No, I strongly disagree. It is a single player game. You can ask the thread for an opinion, but I don't think it is needed for them to decide your chain for you.

>> No.72454032

>>72452843
It's magic WWI, so make of that what you will. The only wrinkle seems to be that God wants to enforce a status quo and keep the war going, so constant WWI warfare as stalemate with all that entails.

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>>72453983
I think a lot of things here would benefit from that age-old mantra, honestly. It does make me wonder what the hell gangs use for standard arms, though.
>>72453991
Maybe later. But the other Anon is pretty on point: The entire setting is an unholy Frankenstein of a bunch of sci-fi settings about liberal space furries/superhumans fighting against the Imperium if the Emperor was a lady and scarfing down crazy pills. The more you put it under a microscope, the less sense it makes. It's very much on the side of spectacle and anything I come up with probably won't hold up.

Also I'm lazy.
>>72453995
>Maybe the real grumpy middle-aged ladies were the friends we made along the ay.
>along the ay
>ay
>pic related
He has revealed his Martian origins! Arrest him!

>> No.72454062

>>72453869
>>72453961
Oh. And if you meant going in through the back of gate instead of the front of the gate, that's never explained. But apparently someone tried it and their subsequent death was "most unpleasant".

So probably good to just follow the safety instructions.

>> No.72454063

>>72453602
Because when you want for nothing with respect to material goods, then novelty becomes a currency of infinite worth. Taking a tool using monkey and putting it into situations where it has to grow in ways it isn't prepared for would generate unique situations and outcomes, if nothing else.

>> No.72454069

>>72453995
Maguro and Hitomi are the only companions available from the tovam jump. The Valeria jump lets you take any canon character but you have to convince the companion to accompany you. Thus, my houserules demand that I can now only buy the chance to try to convince someone, and that someone can only be Maguro or Hitomi, because I take the most restrictive version of every option from both jumps and combine them.

>>72454011
Without an author making a decision about which options are available for me, I'm writing fanfic, not playing a CYOA. I want to play CYOAs, which is why I'm in a CYOA thread.

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>>72453995
>But do you really want to be feared by the gods as that zippy boi who could fly up their ass and crawl out their mouth in the time it takes for them to blink?
Yeah

>> No.72454090

>>72454069
>Without an author making a decision about which options are available for me
You are though? I wasn't even suggesting you don't, just that codified rules aren't really needed for this.

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>>72454046
>Martian
>MARTIAN
YOU'LL NEVER TAKE ME ALIVE! Because there are no Martians, you fool! There are only green humans detached from their original gestalt form!!! It's all a conspiracy by Big Perpetua to set the Vers Empire against the USA!!!! WAKE UP SHEEPLE

>>72454069
Ah, now it clicks for me.

>>72454080
I guess I can't blame you, gods have shiny buttholes in that CYOA

>> No.72454115

>>72452952
Shieeeet, looking forward to that! Now I can use both. I actually like Reborn's even if it is on the generic side of things.

>> No.72454131

>>72452234
How strong are DC wizards usually anyway?

>> No.72454141

>>72454046
Will your DC1M connect to your morrison JLA?

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>>72454099
Calm down, Battl'r. You make that face for too long and it'll get stuck that way, and wouldn't that be such a shame. Such a hansom boy.

>> No.72454160

>>72454115
>spoiler
Yeah it’s not bad, per say, it’s just not as good as it could be. And considering Bleach was my first manga and anime I’m pretty happy that we’re getting a new one that’ll have some of the more unique content in it.

>> No.72454162

>>72454131
Usually strong enough to hold their own amongst whatever super team they've joined up with.

Anything more specific is impossible to say, because they vary wildly.

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>>72454141
I'm not sure yet. At minimum it will have a DC continuity/Hypertime drawback like normal, but I might opt out of JLA entirely if I include the present day counterparts of the heroes within. Mostly because this would be less work in the long haul. Not sure yet.
>>72454099
Sir, this is a McDonald's.

>> No.72454187

>>72454160
That's fair. I hope the dupe has content from Can't Fear Your Own World, I just preordered the official english version for that one.

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>>72453965
I will and there's no stopping me. 'Sides, everyone in this series is a retarded teenage autist and I didn't feel like going for the band girls

>> No.72454199

>tfw still mad Valeria won't update Terra Formars
>because of shitposting bitches.

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>>72454115
Favorite division?

>> No.72454220

>>72454146
>This is the face of the woman who made a bomb capable of killing God's older stronger sister

>> No.72454226

>>72454200
Hard to say. I really like the 8th, 10th, and 4th.

>> No.72454227

>>72453983
>>72454046
At least it doesn't really come off as preachy like most Space Utopia bullshit. Strike Legion feels more like it's making an excuse for your over the top heroics rather than like Dances With Smurfs or Star Trek particularly after gen 1 beating you over the head with how perfect and right they are.

>> No.72454264

Anyone want to share some fun ideas for themed chains? Here's mine.
Either:
>Start medieval peasant on a medival world, or on our own world in the middle ages
>Jump through various settings with roughly equivalent tech levels.
>Eventually have a big twist culture shock moment by traveling to a sci-fi jump.
Or
>Start as a neolithic/stone age character.
>Go through jumps that gradually increase in technology level (E.g Bronze Age Collapse, Age of Mythology, Mount and Blade, Warhammer Fantasy, Etc.)

>> No.72454285

>>72454199
>because of shitposting bitches.
I think now it’s more the fact that nobody likes it anymore. Val included.

>> No.72454307

>>72454264
I've kinda wanted to do the second one but finding enough Jumps for the earlier eras is a pain in the ass.

>> No.72454362

>>72454172
neat, look forward to wear vandal's knife suit or look at that angry sun for no reason.
>>72454200
Mayuri's since shonen taught me that like Orochi and Frieza, you too can get away with war crimes.

>> No.72454394

>>72454362
>Mayuri
He’s actually pretty cool in TYBW too, stupid sunflower mane aside.

>> No.72454399

>>72454362
Mayuri is more acceptable than those two, because he didn't get away with shit. No one in his society gives a shit that he's horrifically amoral because he's helpful in the end.

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>>72454264
I played around with the idea of an early all-myth-jumps arc before reluctantly abandoning that idea to put those jumps back in their proper linear place on the chain. Like starting from Bronze Age Collapse, proceeding to Sumerian Mythology when it's done, then Egyptian Mythology, then Greek Myth, then Viking Saga, and maybe with Age of Mythology as the capstone. Apart from the challenge of surviving the many syncrestic flavors of Ishtar as one anon put it, be cool to see how differently people view their gods.

>>72454172
YOU'RE a McDonald's. Also jesus, why is Solaris such a saltbucket? He's like big metal sun Luthor.

>>72454146
I will continue making this face as I remember the many centuries of child abuse, desecration of the natural order, sheer conniving bullshit, literally summoning the Devil who you worshipped in the hopes of a boon and ghost generation were completely forgotten by the boys because you let yourself fall into Hell only because there was literally no way to save your skin. And for some reason, that makes you people. But not all the people you dicked over. You she-dick.

>> No.72454449

So with talk of Bloodborne and Fallen London lately; what other jumps do we have for 'vaguely victorian with horror elements'?

>> No.72454507

>>72454449
Innistrad, Ravenloft, Generic Universal Monsters, Van Helsing, Penny Dreadful, Castlevania.

>> No.72454519

>>72454449
Dishonored and Thief
American McGee's Alice?

>> No.72454530

First Jumpable version Kampfer is now done.

>> No.72454539

>>72454449
A Study in Emerald. Although that might be firmly Victorian with vaguely horror elements.

>> No.72454556

>>72454449
>So with talk of Bloodborne and Fallen London lately; what other jumps do we have for 'vaguely victorian with horror elements'?
A Study In Emerald? It's late victorian stuff because Sherlock Holmes, but the world is ruled by Lovecraft beings. (The Queen Victoria Gloriana is Cthulhu, Hastur rules as the Czar Unnameable, and Nyarlathotep has Egypt for example.)

>> No.72454576

>>72454530
Nice, thanks Valk. Reading now.

>> No.72454603

>>72454530
Thanks Valk!

>> No.72454648

>>72454530
>Roll 1d3+15

Funny, I think that's the most 'restrictive' or smallest roll for age we have

>> No.72454668

Is there a single fucking reason other than bad writing why Naruto can't just be at home with his family and be a good dad and let his 1 million shadow clones just run the village/country.
Does he just hate his family?

>> No.72454670

>>72454648
If I ever make a jump I’ll make you roll 1d2+15 just to one-up Valk

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>>72454648
Actually I think it's beat out by Ben 10 and Dies Irae (for Students and Outsiders, I think). There's a few others with a small pool like that, mostly in high school settings, too.
>>72454530
I'm intrigued just by how long people have been waiting for this so I'm giving it a read. What's this about, again?
>>72454406
To be fair, they had to program him with the capacity for salt to complete the time loop. I wish I got a dollar for each time I said 'time loop'. I could afford a pizza.

>> No.72454673

>>72454648
Yeah, wasn't sure about the age bit. Might scrap it for a more general 'choose your age' or something. I wanted it to be around the ages the cast are basically/student age.

>> No.72454689

>>72454668
Other than bad writing there’s the fact that Naruto is just not the most clever guy around

>> No.72454690

>>72454648
A few other high school jumps have things like that. I think the Irregular at Magic High School has a 15+1d2

>> No.72454693

I want some really big trees to build some neat treehouses on.
Where can i get some?

>> No.72454710
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So, given that the mud familiars inside Jumper's Box (EOA creator capstone item) are real sapient spirits enslaved and tortured by your box, picking that item is inherently evil right?

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>>72454671
>What's it about?
Guy wakes up a girl. Finds out he has become a magical girl in a war between two sides: The Red Kampfer and Blue Kampfer. Later finds out that it is a war on behalf of some aliens who were at a stalemate to reduce casualties. Queue lots of highschool genderbending drama and him slowly gaining a harem as he manages to get the local kampfer to stop fighting. Then the guys who made the kampfer were like 'no, stop that. Fight' and they team up to defeat the White Kampfer who work for those guys.

>> No.72454736

>>72454689
mostly true, but he figured out in the past how to most effectively use his shadow clones to cut his work load, learn faster and multitask

>> No.72454738

So I heard that in Bleach the spirits that the Quincy kill aren't so much destroyed as they are devoured by Yhwach. Is there any truth to that?

>> No.72454777

>>72454693
You can buy seeds for Laurelin and telperion in silmarillion (might be too bright and/or sacred to actually build anything on them)
There's also the seeds of the weel pod trees from his dark materials. Not as tall as the silmarillion trees but pretty big

>> No.72454778

>>72454738
I think that's just with the Sternritter. Not sure if it's with all the others.

>> No.72454781

>>72454668
Most of the reasons swing back to poor writing, but the series also seems to indicate that it's just seen as irresponsible and dangerous to leave an easily popped clone behind at the Hokage Tower when important shit might be going down and really on the level documents need to be signed.

Having checked some clips of the anime recently, Naruto invented an entire Parent-Child holiday just to go home sometimes, so it's not really out of lack of want that he's stuck there all day.

>> No.72454807

>>72454200
Say what you want about the 13 those captains sure do have a good style.

>> No.72454830

>>72454781
He could still at least let a clone be at his house and hang with his kids while another fucks his wife.
Also, a shadow clone of Naruto himself isn't just "easily popped". Sasuke and the ayy lmaos are literally the only things in the entire setting that can harm even a clone of his

>> No.72454844

>>72452843
MGLN is vastly more powerful than Nanoha, but it's always possibly you didn't spec into assloads of magical power. Like, Tanya's miracle empowered weaponry is about equal to maybe - MAYBE - season one of MGLN. And MGLN had like ten season, last I checked.

>> No.72454854

>>72454830
Didn't he try that on his kid's birthday and they popped?

>> No.72454865

>>72454738
Depends on how much old man blood you have. Ichigo's and Ishida's mom got weakened when Ywach reclaimed his power.

>> No.72454875

>>72454738
Only people touched by Yhwach, because he gave them a piece of his soul, when they die, the fragment of his own soul and the souls of dead quincies come back to yhwach and empower him, technically he should be able to devour dead shinigamis too with the Almighty, why he never devoured Ichibei and yamamoto is anyone guess.

>> No.72454878

>>72454830
>He could still at least let a clone be at his house and hang with his kids
He did, it popped and Boruto got pissed off since he pulled it off at his birthday.

>> No.72454879
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>>72454710
More than tortured I would say they are enslaved by it.

>> No.72454882

>>72454854
Yeah. Cause the shadow clones strong enough to be useful in a fight on naruto's level can apparently be popped by children.

Can't you smell that good writing.

>> No.72454883

>>72454200
Team Karakura.

>> No.72454895

>>72454693
Find the Deku Tree in one of the Legend of Zelda jumps.

>> No.72454896

>>72454830
See, your statements here are completely thrown out by poor writing excuses. In Boruto, Naruto clones can get popped by a stubbed toe, as evidenced by the one he had at home with his family during a birthday party popping and dropping a cake. Whether it's because the clone didn't have it's guard up or they're just that magically fragile, that's the excuse now.

Which, to Boruto (the kid), was a heinous sin of which there is no recovery, I might add.

>> No.72454902

>>72454530
you smell nice

>> No.72454904

>>72454693
>>72454895
If you go for the right options in Wind Waker, you can BE the treehouse.

>> No.72454915

>>72454710
Not if you wank that all the initial slaves are masochists with a corruption fetish.

>> No.72454916
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72454916

>>72454530
> Dodging or blocking bullets and projectile swords is fully within the realms of possibility for them
blocking bullets and projectile with swords

>Grabby Grabby
Nice

>> No.72454927

>>72454200
10th because they're mostly simple and straightforward.

>> No.72454929

>>72454882
Wood Clone Chads win again.

>> No.72454944

>>72454916
>Implying they can't block projectile swords

>> No.72454949

>>72454902
That was strangely creepy timing anon, since I put on some deodorant a few seconds ago.
>>72454916
Nope, that was correct. Shizuku has a slight tendency to throw swords at other Kampfer, connected by chains.

>> No.72454952

>>72454530
Thanks for the jump, Valkyrie. You really had fun with those OC companions, huh? I quite like them.

>Erasure
The description has my mind going to these words. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9I4y55vuyyg

>> No.72454958

>>72454882
Naruto's level now involves getting his ass kicked in every single fight he's in, whether or not it's against shit less than even genin level.

>> No.72454964

>>72454929
>wood release
Oh yeah, you don’t need a bloodline for that anymore. You can just figure it out if you have the right elemental affinities.

>> No.72454971

>>72454896
I wonder if Orochi would mind an Uzumaki/Hyuuga as experimental material.

>> No.72454972

Ok, so Naruto just really doesn't want to spend time with his family and longs for the old glory days where he had a goal to work towards. Now that he has to achieved everything he had to struggle for he wants nothing to do with that life he made for himself. Kinda sad actually.
Will this be your jumpers fate as well?

>> No.72454993

>>72454952
Mhm. Thanks! I discovered that I actually quite enjoy character creation. Which admittedly I was already slightly aware of from my attempts at story writing.

I really need some context for that scene anon!

>> No.72454997

>>72454972
No. Because that's gay and cringe bait.

>> No.72455012

>>72454958
That's basically everyone now. Boruto is displaying this weird kind of power crunch that has made everyone get way closer in power levels compared to where they should be.

>>72454971
I'm not sure why you're asking me, but the way he is, everyone and everything is on the table. As of Boruto the series though, he's not really allowed to do anything like he used too.

>>72454972
How did you arrive at that conclusion?

>> No.72455060

>>72454668
They 'need' to make him look more like a shitty parent so that so that his shitty son can look more 'relatable' and have something to angst over and for them to later have a dramatic moment where the two make up before Naruto dies and passes the torch to his son. Nevermind the fact that a single clone during the war arc lasted for hours and beat the zombie third raikage on it's own and he can spam hundreds of those so a clone dispelling just at the right moment to drop Himawari's cake is bullshit

Also, if the Hokage's job and paperwork really is so hard that Naruto with his clone factory can't keep up, it's literally impossible for anyone to be his succesor without dieing from overwork

>> No.72455065
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72455065

Question, aren't Personas and Zanpaktuo spirits essentially the same thing? They're both the manifestation of a person's soul right? Or is a Persona the manifestation of a personality, while the Zanpaktuo spirit is the true manifestation of a soul?

Also would a Stand, Persona, and Zanpaktuo combination work?

>> No.72455067

>>72455012
>How did you arrive at that conclusion?
Probably projection from some actual ancient boomer or just simply bait.

>> No.72455082

>>72454854
>>72454882
It wasnt from the clones being weak it was because naruto fell asleep working in the office. Dude works him self way too hard, if he was smart real him would have been at the party while clone was signing papers.

>> No.72455085

Power levels are BULLLLLSSSSSSHHHHHIITTT

>> No.72455106

>>72455065
Arent the zanpakuto spirits literally hollows that got mindraped into sword form just coming out as humanoid forms?

>> No.72455115

>>72454949
Ah, sorry then

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>>72455065
>Question, aren't Personas and Zanpaktuo spirits essentially the same thing?
No.
>They're both the manifestation of a person's soul right?
No.
>Or is a Persona the manifestation of a personality
No.
>while the Zanpaktuo spirit is the true manifestation of a soul?
No.
>Also would a Stand, Persona, and Zanpaktuo combination work?
No.

>> No.72455127

>>72454915
That's actually incredibly smart, thanks.

>> No.72455138

Yo was the petrification power of the witch in the chronicles of Narnia book touch based or long range. I remember in the movies she had to hit people with her stick, but i vaguely remember she could cast petrification from afar in the books

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>>72455115
No worries. I already separately found two spelling mistakes anyway! Damn it

>> No.72455169

>>72455082
Since when do they disappear when the original goes to sleep or loses conscience?

>> No.72455179

>>72455106
No. I'm pretty sure that only happens with Ikomikidomoe.

>> No.72455206

>>72455060
>They 'need' to make him look more like a shitty parent so that so that his shitty son can look more 'relatable' and have something to angst over and for them to later have a dramatic moment where the two make up before Naruto dies and passes the torch to his son.
That's not really at all what they're trying to do there. The series goes out of its way to have basically everyone Boruto bitches about his dad at to be like "Are you insane?" or "What the fuck, Boruto?" and otherwise see him as unreasonable. Actual bad guys or people Naruto has spoken with for like twenty minutes have more respect for Naruto on average. It's more like they needed to make Boruto look more like an underdog despite more or less being a naturally talented prince and son of the guy everyone likes, by having him hate the guy everyone else likes, and cheat.

>>72455065
Personas and Zanpaktou aren't manifestations of the soul as much as mirrors of one's self. A Persona is something that only manifests in the Collective Unconsciousness from beating up their Shadow, which is like an exaggerated version of a person's insecurities and flaws that tries to present itself as the "true self" and only becomes more reasonable when you both beat it and overcome make an attempt at being more honest about who you are; it's more like what you say, a manifestation of someone's personality. Zanpaktou start as Asauchi, which are swords carrying what is essentially a blank hollow. Over time and exposure to an individual, the blank more or less imprints on them and takes on abilities and powers relating to what that person is actually like and stuff.

>> No.72455211

Hey Regalus, if you're here, what would type affinity 'dark/dragon' and 'fairy/psychic' look like?

>> No.72455229

>>72454993
Well I'm glad you found what you enjoyed doing. Heh. So does this mean OC companion updates of your other jumps?

>I really need some context for that scene anon!
It has been a while, but the saying "No blood, no bone, no ash!" is a battle cry of that faction on account of their ability to use flames and way of saying they will leave nothing of their enemies behind. I think that scene is from the death of their King? Like I said, been too long for me to remember correctly.

>> No.72455246

>>72455179
>Ikomikidomoe
Who?

>> No.72455267
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>>72455229
I'm probably unlikely to do updates (unless I was already updating them for something else), though future jumps will likely have a few pop up occasionally.

>> No.72455286

>>72455246
Zanpakuto from the CFYOW novel. It was a primordial hollow known as "the walking disaster with infinite evolution." It kicked every ones ass and then tried to eat the Soul King. Ichibei deleted it's name and Oetsu trapped it in an Asauchi, which created the Zanpakuto Ikomikidomoe. It's used by a Soul King Candidate experiment called Hikone in the novel.

>> No.72455323

>>72455065
Persona's are the manifestation of someone's feelings and inner thoughts like Stands are the manifestation of the fighting spirits of its users. Zanpakuto are the vessels of its users individual inner literal powers given shape and moulded into and inside a sword shaped hollow to be expressed through it.

>> No.72455325

>>72455206
Ah, thanks for the succinct explanation Nubes

>> No.72455329

>>72455106
Not exactly, Ichigo's zanpakuto was like that because of his fucked up genetics

>> No.72455341

Who to waifu?
>Nessa
>Bea
>Sonia
>Marnie
>Angry Scottish Girl

>> No.72455348

>>72454972
Get a big enough harem and you won't have time for that kind of self-loathing.

>> No.72455380

>>72455138
It's been years and years for me too, but I think it was a magic wand and she could blast people with it.

>> No.72455394

>>72455341
Angry Scottish Swearing Girl

>> No.72455422

New chain, I'm visiting Worm as second jump after Eclipse Phase.
Should I take:
- Contractor, for 10 loyal clones of me with average powers that can be switched at any time
- Iterative Improvement, for cybernetic implants with superpowers and teleporting nanoswarms that jumper can keep as pets
- Assimilation, for maximun dakka with a body made of guns, missile launchers, neurotoxin covered razors and nanoswarm hives

It's been a while since I read source material. I've mostly forgotten how well these would preform in setting if backed by Eclipse Phase tech.

>> No.72455427

>>72455341
Didn't you already ask this

>> No.72455428

>>72455341
Cara

>> No.72455437

>>72455341
>Angry Scottish Girl
This is the objectively correct choice.

>> No.72455457

>>72455341
>Marnie

>> No.72455502

>>72455325
No problem dude. Hope it helps.

>> No.72455512

>>72454530
No option to be Natsuru?

>Two For Blue
>as she tries to short out her
Sort

>> No.72455524

>>72454671
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jypQkq08P1s&fbclid=IwAR0dwsYYYJE_abUv2NGslCPtdXKgW8Zx47iuGuwaCrJg4S_j8hblgKXSuFo

Hey heavens I found some footage of someone using some perks you made, particularly plug n' play. And the science perks to modify their driver belts

>> No.72455545

>>72455422
Someone made a pretty good point about these powers a while back:
Thinker powers are generally going to give you the most bang for your buck when OoC is taken into consideration. This setting likes to wank Thinkers really hard, and in universe they're mostly limited by the fact that they're otherwise normal humans. When you have more things to play with though, these powers serve as massive force multipliers.

I'm not terribly familiar with Eclipse Phase, but my vote is going to go to Compound Computation so you can use your tech to pull off the mother of all megaprojects.

>> No.72455551

>>72455427
Yeah but nobody had a clear advantage so I asked again.

>> No.72455552
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72455552

I'm asking this since I keep coming back to this subject and I figure it's worth talking about. Does anyone else have a perpetual struggle of right brain versus left brain when writing Jumpchain? Where on one hand you want to do nuance, tragedy, drama and/or pathos while on the other you want to go ham on the wish fulfillment with whatever you consider ideal? Do you compromise the two, if so, how?
>>72455524
Digs made Plug N Play. Remember, we didn't team up on KR jumps until Neo-Heisei Part 3. Still, that is very neat.

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>>72455512
>short/sort
Yep, that was the mistake I saw minutes after posting the Jump.
>mfw

>> No.72455582
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>>72455559
>noticing an easily fixable mistake after you've already submitted the project
I know that feel bro.

>> No.72455591

>>72455524
Why is that belt a gun?

>> No.72455600

>>72455169
Pretty sure it has always been like that? They run off chakra and such, dude passes out when he runs out of chakra too doesnt he? I remember him training and the stress builds up with each new clone which is why its supposedly a forbidden technique.

>> No.72455626
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>>72455422
Depends on the shit you bought in EP, if you had the seed AI item then it probably doesn't matter what you actually choose. Otherwise I'd personally go for Thanatos, Panaceas power or Miniaturization. Panacea and Mini would mesh well with EP tech, mostly due to how you could make a biomorph and then shapeshift it on the fly during combat situations. Mini because they aleady have nanotechnology and those mass fabrication machines and you can just make them even better. Thanatos because you can just throw morphs at capes then kill them with the projection, or you could move your own mind into their phone and summon the Thanatos projection when they fall asleep to kill them.

>> No.72455635

>>72455591
Because the armor is a bullet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZC3uux-VKy4

>> No.72455684

>>72455582
I liked the big foreheads though.

>> No.72455689

>>72455635
Is he not supposed to be using those or something? He's keeps forcing them open.

>> No.72455692

>>72455552
>Does anyone else have a perpetual struggle of right brain versus left brain when writing Jumpchain? Where on one hand you want to do nuance, tragedy, drama and/or pathos while on the other you want to go ham on the wish fulfillment with whatever you consider ideal? Do you compromise the two, if so, how?
I go almost entirely into wish fulfillment, and either throw out anything that's too much to make sense for the situation while enjoying the thought of it, or try to figure out how that actually works while making it reasonable.

I want to use some big and unwieldy weapon. I like harem shenanigans and being the target of affections for cool characters. I like having flashy and over the top moves and other bullshit powers. None of this stuff is effective or reasonable until I find a reason to make it so though. "Why do all these dramatic things keep happening around me?" It's because a companion with manipulation and planning perks decided to have a field day after becoming a fan of wacky plots. "Why am I using [insert bullshit weapon here]?" Because it's either got special powers relating to its form, I'm just that good, or both. So on and so forth.

I've got like ten kids and hundreds of grandchildren in my chain, and we just got done going on pirate adventures in a boat that is made of wood but also steel at the same time. Logic has taken a long dive off a tall building at this point.

>> No.72455705

>>72455422
>>72455545
> I'm not terribly familiar with Eclipse Phase
Basically cyberpunk in space (but no ftl)
- robots
- genetically engineered manufactured human bodies
- transforming human mind into AI and back
- office printer size nanotech factories that can build anything
- near future firearms and slightly less effective laser equivalents
- nanoswarms for surveillance and/or dismantling your enemies
- awesome VR game technology that you can be used to interrogate/torture a copy of someone's mind and then delete it over and over and over again until they answer all your questions

>> No.72455717
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>>72455635
>Because the armor is a bullet

>> No.72455720

>>72455559
Do you have to take Kämpfer Powers in order to take the Kämpfer origins?

>> No.72455732

>>72455689
He does not have proper authorization, no.
But it doesn't matter because RAGE.

>> No.72455734

>>72455552
I'm having trouble with that on my new chain. I'm leaning on having a few worlds focused on drama while others focus on the wish fulfilling part.

It also helps me that the Jump-chan for this Jumper is more or lessthe concept of knowledge (it can be good or bad) so if anything bad happens its because Jump-chan got curious and wanted to see how that bad situation would unfold, much to the Jumper's dismay.

>> No.72455743

>>72455705
My friend you appear to have forgotten the mass slavery, TITANs, the murder sphere around the Earth, strange alien virus', the actual aliens who appear to be trying to keep mankind contained, the Pandora gates and what ever the fuck the Psi shit it.

>> No.72455765

>>72455552
>Where on one hand you want to do nuance, tragedy, drama and/or pathos while on the other you want to go ham on the wish fulfillment with whatever you consider ideal? Do you compromise the two, if so, how?
I have multiple chains, most are one or the other. My MCs are OC characters, not self inserts. I sometimes have 2 chains with the same MC for this exact reason.

>> No.72455780

>>72455743
As well as the politics that were permanently warped by the writers' radical alt-left worldview.

>> No.72455783

>>72455552
I don't really have to many issues with it, but that's probably because I have like 8 things running at any given time so any time that I want one or the other I just switch tracks.

>> No.72455793

>>72455743
I was describing the tech jumper has and knows how to use effectively.
Also, you forgot memes so dank, they're literally lethal.

>> No.72455794

>>72455559
You will have a correct Male option for Kampfer, yes?

>> No.72455830

>>72455780
Nah, that's common fan interpretation. Anarchist space is canonically shit to live in compared to inner system.

>> No.72455842

>>72455720
No
>>72455794
Read the Jump anon

>> No.72455852

>>72455793
Bah you forgot the most amazing designer drugs and bodies that can enhance that experience even more. Besides we can buy a baby TITAN in jump can't we? And an item with the complete scientific knowledge of humanity, so it would be able to go full TITAN mode after you take the time to slowly raise it and help it grow. Better a friendly Shodan than having to deal with the meme wars of jupiter.

>> No.72455858

>>72455794
At least read the jump before trying to start shit

>> No.72455863
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>>72455106
Not necessarily. Zanpakuto are actually artificially produced Hollows known as "asauchi" which are created by melding numerous Shinigami souls together. These asauchi are "blank" and have no personality or image of their own. When bonded to a Shinigami they have the ability to absorb and refine their spiritual power, giving it shape and form according to their Inner World. They also take on a form and personality reflective of their wielder's inner thoughts and desires. At this point they are technically a separate being whose will is defined by the conscious and subconscious desires of their master. Once this occurs they're permanently bonded to a specific user and the asauchi becomes that person's zanpakuto, something like a grafted-on extension of their spiritual existence. "Shikai" and "Bankai" are actually the zanpakuto itself, which is very similar in nature to a Hollow, transforming and reflecting the spiritual power of their wielder using their own bodies in the same way that a Hollow transforms and gains special powers.

That said, there are unique cases. Arrancar don't need asauchi because they're already Hollows. They simply use their own bodies as the asauchi and achieve the same result without having to artificially graft a Hollow to themselves. Ichigo does the same thing. "White" (his Inner Hollow) willingly serves the role of his zanpakuto, transforming and reflecting his spiritual power to release its own special abilities, but it already has a will of its own (it always has from the moment he was born) which is why it gives him so many problems but also why it's bonded to him so strongly that it lets him grow at insane speed and do impossible bullshit.

>> No.72455868

>>72455705
Then yeah, I'm still voting for the power that makes you smarter the bigger your plan is.

Since this is jump 2, I really think you're gonna want to work on supporting your tech skills because it just won't compare to once you really get rolling. I think the only reason you'd want one of the more smashy powers is to help you get past the awkward initial stages where you might not have all the resources you want. You could make an argument for Miniaturization to make your stuff more compact and usable or Reverse Engineering to steal neat stuff from Tinkers, but I think big brain power to let you apply your technology more effectively and scheme with the best of them is the way to go.

>> No.72455882

>>72455793
>memes so dank, they're literally lethal
Teach Parahumans Online how to meme correctly.

>> No.72455888

>>72455842
My apologies, I hadn't noticed it yet.
Thank you for incorporating constructive criticism and being polite.

If only certain other jumpmakers could follow your example.

>> No.72455958

>>72455868
They could just unshackle Dragon and then buy a load of tinker stuff from her. Feed it to a Cornucopia Machines (nano fab) and you'd be able to make it again at any point.

>> No.72455982

>>72455626
>>72455422
Eclipse Phase
jump 1

Age: 26
Origin: Drop In
Location: Mars, Noctis-Qianjiao (rolled 3+6, free choice of precise location)

Perks:
Forking – Free, All Origins
Resleeving – Free, All Origins

Missing Time – (free Drop In)

Hardened – (200, discounted)
Primacy – (300, discounted)
On The Low-Down – 100
Sleeve-Easy – 100

Skill Packages: (3 free)
Device Engineering Package (free)
Nanotechnician Package (free)
Hard Hat Package (free)
Biohacker Package (100)
Psychosurgeon Package (100)

Morph: (+600)
Opteryx (200):
Robotic raptor synthmorph.
+Aptitude Enhancement Mods: Intuition (free Drop-In)

Splicer (50):
Standard slightly upgraded human biomorph.
+ Aptitude Enhancement Mods: Reflex & Intuition (50)

Jumper-grade Cortical Stack – (400)

Items:
20,000c account for in-jump currency (free)
Light Vacsuit (for all biomorphs and pods) (free)
Muse (free)
Inexhaustible QE Comm Link - (free)
Light Weapons Package - (free)
Ego Bridge – (100, discounted)
Cracked Desktop CM – (200, discounted)

Free skill package gear:
Disassembly tools & wrist-mounted tools augmentation.
Software writing AI, work simulspace environment.
Healing vat
Psychosurgery simulspace & therapy assistant AI
A nanoengineering simulspace & a General Nanobot Hive capable of manufacturing any nanites up to current transhuman level.

Drawbacks:
+100 - You Don’t Look Well
+200 - Blending In

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Besides getting some holy saplings and maybe a holy jewel, what else did you do during the Noldor's misadventures in Beleriand?

>> No.72456071
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Inukami (REDUX) (JUMP #: 2)
> Age: 16 [Rolled4]
> Location: Japan
> Origin: Inukami
> Race: Kitsune [-200CP]
> Maid Training [Get a Freebie!]
> A Good Judge of Character [-100CP]
> Elementalism: Wind [-150CP]
> Hard Cap [-200CP]
> Lone Wolf -
> + Import: “Pithya” [Get a Freebie!]
> Battery [-200CP]
> Sake [-50CP]
> Magic Tome [-400CP]
> Cosplay Gear [Get a Freebie!]
> Chocolate Cake [Get a Freebie!]
> Elephants [+100CP]
> Possessive Lover [+200CP]

Haha, silly jump. This is only my second jump! I don't HAVE any companions yet! That means I get free CP! Right?
... Right?
right?


...


OH WAIT SHIT, I FORGOT

> Who the fuck is Pithya
My starter from Pokemon, a Delphox. Her name comes from the Oracle of Delphi. She's very proud, dependable, and abrupt.
> I thought your starter was a Pikachu
Look at you, imaginary person remembering shit. Pikachus are boring, though, and I never decided on a name or personality or ANYTHING on that little guy, so I decided a trade was in order.
... which makes it really weird that the very second I decided that, I was struck with inspiration, and now he lives on as "a Pokemon that I actually caught."
His name is Vic, short for Victor, and he is the chillest possible little dude to the point of being half-dead at all times. Like a surfer, but without actually knowing how to surf, because that would interrupt his chill time.

And these two and whatever other [Unknown Variable] Pokemon I had with me are the ones who came with me into my second jump ever.
And Pithya, who is now a Nekogami (which is freaking adorable) is now my... I don't know what you would call it if she's also a wild yokai cat. Tamer seems incorrect here.
Job consultant, maybe.
And she kept lighting my hair on fire when I hung out with "disreputable" people. And lighting my hair on fire when I got drunk and did stupid shit. And lighting m- you get the idea.

My whole jump was an extended Abott and Costello routine.
Why do I feel like my Pokemon are more competent than me?

>> No.72456072
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72456072

>>72455842
>No
That works, I can use the tech I got from Twintail for fighting.

>Origin: Red Kämpfer
>Location: Japan
>Honor Student (200)
>Collateral Consequences (400)
>Student Chef (Free)
>Fourth Beauty (100)
>Queen Of The School (100)
>Don’t Question It (200)
>Contract Bracelet (Free)
>Two For Blue (100)
>Cameos (+0)
>Grabby Grabby (+100)

Nothing like a good fight to the death to liven up the school day. Now if only I wasn’t receiving so many requests for private tutoring sessions. Well, I knew the risks going in, now I just need to teleport home and grab a new school uniform before next bell.

>> No.72456112

>>72456058
I beat up a bunch of elves. It was fun.

>> No.72456116

>>72455422
Become Richter 2.0 and stomp through Worm with AIs. With a Programming & Computer Science Tinker power you could (at least theoretically) replicate almost any other Tinker or Thinker power through sufficiently advanced AI and personal devices. Shit like glasses and an earpiece that link up to an AI which is constantly extrapolating what it sees to replicate the abilities of Tattletale except it's filtered and always on, an AI dedicated to understanding and reverse-engineering Tinkertech, a computer algorithm that calculates mathematical probability to provide you with functional precog and also a step-by-step guide to doing whatever desired result you want to accomplish.

It would combo really well with Eclipse Phase tech as well.

>> No.72456124
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>>72454530
>Kämpfer
>Origins:
Student
>Location:
Japan
>Perks:
Knock ‘Em Out! [200]
The Natsuru Effect [400]
Direct My Own Show [Free]
Notice Me Senpai [100]
>Items:
Contract Bracelet [Free]
School Bag [Free]
>Companions:
Messenger [50]
Childhood Friend [50]
Two For Blue [100]
Runaway [100]
Rosy Red [100]
The Substitute [100]
Shades Of White [100]
Agent Against Chaos [100]
>Drawbacks:
Cameos [+000]
Grabby Grabby [+100]
Rumour Mill [+100]
Battle Of Attrition [+200]

Can't quite afford a solid majority of what I wanted to, mostly thanks to the companions, so I guess I'll make do with these. This guy has been downgraded from an actual fight junkie delinquent who thinks everything happening is just some minor scuffle between girl gangs to a normal student with bad taste in hair and a decent punch.

>> No.72456129

>>72455552
On one hand I want suffering and dramatic moments that changes the character's outlooks. On the other I want the characters to be one note so I can make stupid gags.

>> No.72456157

>>72454844
Five to be precise.

>> No.72456173

>>72456072
Nice.
Set for a good student life.
>>72456124
Ah, a team player I see!

>> No.72456180

>>72456058
I was a perfectly normal Maiar, who never left Valinor. I ran my own secret elven kingdom in Middle Earth, while pretending to do nothing of the sort whenever any of the Valar looked in on what I was doing. There was a LOT of running back and forth involved, as well as a lot of Noldor chasing me and trying to mug me for jewels I don't have.

>> No.72456185

>>72452870
>Strike Legion and DC 1 Mil
Nice! And didn't miss much, a lot of shitposting today.

>>72453213
>Optimization can't be fun REE
God, it's like some people like different things then you, who would have thought.

>>72453602
Sometimes I wonder this myself, maybe She needs a waifu?

>> No.72456190

>>72455982
Well first off you probably classify as a high level tinker and would be considered dangerous due to the dual nanotech/biotech skills.Honestly I'd say go for Thanatos and just cast yourself through the internet into people's devices. Considering the only thing that can stop you doing that would be Dragon, and she cannot kill, you'd be fine. Also maybe sell Morph tech and cortical stacks off? Both would probably net you enough money to live a very comfy life.

>> No.72456202

>>72454964
wat.
is that true for all the combo elements? cause I would suddenly have alot of CP to throw around at other stuff then

>> No.72456207

>>72456116
They don't need that, just create a alpha fork and then turn it into an EGI/AI. It's hard to do in EC iirc but it's possible.

>> No.72456221

>>72456180
Why bother keeping it a secret? Manwe never got pissed at Melian for doing exactly what you're doing.

>> No.72456245

>>72456202
Who fucking knows. Choji’s kid just starts using it out of nowhere.

>> No.72456255

>>72456071
>Pikachus are boring, though, and I never decided on a name or personality or ANYTHING on that little guy, so I decided a trade was in order
Pikachus are overused, Mimikyus are better

>> No.72456270
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72456270

Should I waifu?

>> No.72456271
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72456271

>>72456173
>Set for a good student life.
Indeed. Now if only people would stop putting me in maid outfits.

Actually, Queen Of The School mentions excelling in class, so how would that stack with Honor Student?

>> No.72456275

>>72456116
>Programming & Computer Science Tinker power
>Eclipse Phase tech
Oh fuck, I just realized this power enhances psihosurgery since human minds are software. How disgustingly OP.
I'm still not sure this is better than gifting 10 clones an average power tinker programing power.
Is average really that far below in power compared to the ones available in jump to be worth it?

>> No.72456276

>>72456221
A combination of having my own Two Trees still in there, hidden from everyone else... and the Silmawhat? drawback making it so that I never actually realised that coming clean about it would actually be helpful.

And then later the non-interference, I think? It's been a while.

>> No.72456309
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72456309

>>72456271
Ha! Good luck with this setting

Yes, I imagine it would. Would likely put you at the very top of the school

>> No.72456337

>>72456270
Yes, if only because you posting that means you've already come to the decision independent of any context the myriad materials would actually give you.

>> No.72456339

>>72456202
You know the girl from Konohamaru's team? She can use it

>> No.72456383

>>72456270
You know the answer anon.

>> No.72456394
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72456394

>>72456309
>Ha! Good luck with this setting
Hey, I’ve been waiting for this jump, so thanks for making it Valk!

>Yes, I imagine it would. Would likely put you at the very top of the school
I’m going to wind up in fights with the student council president because I took her spot at the top of the rankings, aren’t I?

>> No.72456420

When are we going to get some non-freakshit jumps from Warhammer.

>> No.72456425
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72456425

>>72456394
>I’ve been waiting for this jump
So have I!
>Thanks
No problem!
>I’m going to wind up in fights with the student council president because I took her spot at the top of the rankings, aren’t I?
T'is very possible. That or her close friend. She doesn't seem the type to begrudge that kind of thing.

>> No.72456430
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72456430

>>72456270
I love how Pokemon has basically just become one huge experiment into distilling the essence of every fetish in existence and then incarnating the result as characters. We know that Sun & Moon was loli/mommy oyakodon. What's Sword & Shield?

>> No.72456462

>>72456430
Punk and sporty girls.

>> No.72456490

>>72456430
Dark skinned muscle waifus?

>> No.72456497
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72456497

>Redo of the healer is getting a anime
I guess anything is capable of getting a anime those days, after shield hero, the revenge isekai fad really became popular.
Maybe once the anime is out this thing will get a jump too, the design for Freya is really good and she is prime victim girl material, I need someone to unload all my stress after getting my arms ripped off in the dark souls jump.

This is not the only revenge isekai LN to get a manga/anime either, I wonder why those things are getting popular, its because people want to indulge in being evil, killing and raping, but dont want to deal with the guilt, so they need to have a perfect excuse to indulge? Like dude, if you want to indulge, just do it.

>> No.72456506
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72456506

>>72456425
Is female Natsuru as dense as regular Natsuru?

>> No.72456507

>>72456462
>>72456490
You're right. It's punk and athletic girls, isn't it?

>> No.72456512

>>72456420
If you’re too brain dead to get hyped for undead vampire pirates then it’s on you for having shit taste.

>> No.72456540

>>72456497
The triggering is gonna be glorious. Especially when it reaches the part where He transforms the captain of the guard into a futa, ties him/her/it up in a barn, and sends a rape gang after him before setting the barn on fire.

>> No.72456545

>>72456512
We're getting vampire coast before vampire counts?

>> No.72456549
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72456549

>>72456506
Yes, but she's more cute in a ditzy kind of way.

>> No.72456550

>>72456497
You should stop looking at anime as normal media series like the old stuff, Bleach, DB, One Piece etc and start thinking of anythig releases in the past 7-8 years as just advertisments for the manga/LN. It’s accurate and helps lower your expectations.

>> No.72456558

>>72456270
Sure, always waifu. Bonus points for helping mom go full crazy and ruining the world.

>> No.72456562

>>72456545
No. VC is a DLC for VC.

>> No.72456571

>>72456545
Beast is doing both.

>> No.72456603

>>72456497
>revenge of the healslut is getting an anime
Oh boy, here we go.

>> No.72456624

>>72456190
>Also maybe sell Morph tech and cortical stacks off? Both would probably net you enough money to live a very comfy life.
My idea was cosmetic surgery. Zero threat to anyone and high demand at the same time.

>> No.72456637
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72456637

>>72456549
Works. I’ll be sure to build her her own Tailgear so she can fight with me. The first encounter she has with her male self should be interesting.

>> No.72456641

>>72456497
>I guess anything is capable of getting a anime those days, after shield hero, the revenge isekai fad really became popular.
>Implying Shield Hero had anything to do with that

It's easier to make a shit adaptation than to come up with an original script and anime seasons have been 80+% filler garbage for years

>> No.72456653

>>72456545
Beast picked up the claim.
Last post it was brought up, Vampire Coast is going to be an expansion document for Vampire Counts.

>> No.72456660

>>72456190
>Both would probably net you enough money to live a very comfy life.
And get you a fuck ton of attention. And putting that tech out for villainous tinkers to fuck with.

>> No.72456679

>>72455830
So the dev tantrums on their official forums are just tantrums, then?

>> No.72456726

>>72456173
>Ah, a team player I see!
Just a simple waifufag trying to make my way in the world.

>> No.72456736

>>72456637
Honestly from what I remember of Tailgears, they should probably be reasonably stronger than Kampfer.

>> No.72456738
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Who else here has a jump you want to take more than once in a single chain because you absolutely have to have all the things in it?

>> No.72456745

>>72456637
>I’ll be sure to build her her own Tailgear so she can fight with me
Didn't those things run on fetishes? I have yet to watch the show

>> No.72456752

>>72456275
An "average" Tinker power would probably be along the lines of Kid Win or Chariot. If you halved your number of powers to grant "relatively powerful" ones then you'd likely be looking at stuff like Bakuda or String Theory. Contractor alone likely wouldn't be capable of granting insanely broken bullshit like the powers of Bonesaw, Blasto, Armsmaster, or Richter.

>> No.72456773

>>72456745
The fetishes of your heart-boner, but yes.

>> No.72456781

>>72456738
This is just a setup for you to shill creative mode & mail order, Cliff. We get it already; you’re the greatest thing to grace jumpchain, we’re all lucky to bask in your presence etc

>> No.72456783
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>>72455422
I have seen some worm builds, and no one ever takes PtV, too OP? I guess it becomes harder to make the next jumps interesting if you already have a detailed guide to win every time, no need to test or research.

Enhanced Mastery could be fun as well, there are many jumps where I just want to play the role of a wise butler guiding the mc down a happier path, but Man of Gun from Fate/strange new world kind works in the same way.

>> No.72456790
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72456790

>>72456726
You are doing your part anon. Helping the world by making sure those people exist.

>> No.72456807

>>72456783
>and no one ever takes PtV
The other thinker powers are more interesting imo.

>> No.72456821

>>72456781
Creative mode? Mail order? Please, describe these in the most infuriating way possible so that I have enough hate energy to remotely delete Cliff from reality.

>> No.72456828

>>72456738
one or two. But what really gets me in several jumps if I have a perfect build for my jumper and am just 100 to 200cp short.especially when there are no more viable drawbacks that I can stomach.

>> No.72456839
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>>72456736
>Honestly from what I remember of Tailgears, they should probably be reasonably stronger than Kampfer.
Probably, though from what I’ve seen that’s mostly down to Kampfer not being too powerful.

>>72456745
>Didn't those things run on fetishes? I have yet to watch the show
More just what you’re passionate about. Of course, fetishes do work.

>> No.72456848

>>72456790
are those guns special in some way?

>> No.72456850

>>72456783
>I have seen some worm builds, and no one ever takes PtV, too OP? I guess it becomes harder to make the next jumps interesting if you already have a detailed guide to win every time, no need to test or research.
It's less that it's OP, and more that it's incredibly boring. And honestly not really better than other jumps' precognition, just more wanked in-setting.

>> No.72456856

>>72456783
>Enhanced Mastery
I vaguely remember somebody mentioning once that it worked kind of like Tattletale's power except it's weaker, more focused, is constantly active, and also applies to your muscle memory as well. So you'd be extrapolating knowledge and skill to greater heights, allowing you to learn or master anything at crazy speed without needing a teacher or resources. I've always really liked that interpretation of how the power works because it makes it more interesting and functional than a generic "you learn good" ability booster.

>> No.72456867
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>>72456781
>Getting mistaken for cliff

Fucking oof, nevermind then.

>> No.72456882

>>72456821
>Please, describe these in the most infuriating way possible
Far more effort than I’m willing to put into talking about him
>mail order
You want something from another jump? Don’t want to go there yet/ever? Or deal with any of the settings dangers? Just buy it using the co from the jump you’re in right now. Straight up, just grab whatever you want.
>Creative mode
Unlimited CP, ignore rules on what you can and can’t buy, dying just sends you back to that jumps starting date, take jumps multiple times, all that crap.

>> No.72456893

>>72456848
Infinite ammo + no reload. Other than that, no.
>>72456839
Yeah. Kampfer have fast reflexes but not very powerful attacks.

>> No.72456913
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72456913

My Jumper's about to lose his humanity and I need help. Where can I get perks that'll allow him to relate to humans and have human desires even when he reaches god-hood?

>> No.72456937

>>72454530
The Substitute and Childhood Friend are my favorites so far.

So for Devil's Deal can we influence what they end up with? If so I'm thinking of giving Shades of White a sword to secure her loyalty. Bit sad Super Kamfer only gives increased physical abilities, but I do love me a super mode.

>> No.72456943

>>72456913
Why do you assume your Jumper wouldn't be able to relate to humans after attaining godhood? Even somebody capable of destroying the universe with a snap of their fingers would be able to relate to normal people even if it's just based on what kind of food they like or their taste in movies or their favorite sports team.

>> No.72456949

>>72456937
Cool!

Yeah, I'd say you could.

>> No.72456964

>>72456738
Your post makes me want a Nero harem.

>> No.72456973

>>72456913
Solving this with a perk will only allow your jumper to approximate humanity more realisticly while actually making them objectively less human in actuality. Humanity does not have fiat humanity regulators. If what you want is merely the appearance of humanity, I'm sure the perks are out here.
If you want to retain or regain your humanity, you need to seek situations, not perks, that allow you to retain, regain, or re-establish those aspects of yourself you fear are being warped or atrophied.

>> No.72456980

>>72456641
>It's easier to make a shit adaptation than to come up with an original script

Its a real shame, so many good visual novels that I wish would get animes, but on the other hand, the quality of those things is not always high, full of censorship so that they can sell the uncensored blue rays, it might be for the best that my favorite visual novels will never get their own anime adaptation.

>> No.72456986

>>72456964
As in a harem with Nero in it, or a harem of Neros?

>> No.72456987

>>72456893
still infinite ammo is prettty alright. I still am a pretty great shot from the pokemon jump.
Am I limited to one type of gun? Or can I summon a different one each time?
Can any personal firearm be summoned? like modern pistols, old revolvers, various WW2 rifles etc.
If I have a gun from a different setting (and understand how it works) can I learn how to summon that?

Sry for the questions but this power seems much more unique and fun then swords & fireballs

>> No.72456989

>>72456949
Awesome. Thanks for the answer, Valkyrie.

Huh, I just realized you answered a question I was just about to ask already. It was whether I could use it on someone already a Kampfer. Man, I wonder if this is gonna be a significant boost?

>> No.72456990

>>72456943
>small talk is the essence of humanity
I fear you may be correct.

>> No.72456997

>>72456943
Rather, how do I put this?

I want my Jumper to continue finding joy in human things even after attaining near-infinite power. Things like delicious food or TV shows or sex. You tend to lose that bit when you can see right through those illusions.

>> No.72457000

>>72456986
The latter.
Which I guess is technically also the former.

>> No.72457003

>>72456964
>Nero with a cloning perk
Imagine.

>> No.72457024

>>72457003
They would make an amazing chorus.

>> No.72457042

>>72456430
>What's Sword & Shield?
A massive disappointment.

>> No.72457054

>>72457024
Get enough Neros together and you could make an EX-rank noble phantasm out of their singing.

>> No.72457072

>>72456882
THAT'S MORE THAN ENOUGH HATE!
SAKUJO, CLIFF!

>> No.72457074

>>72456997
Say that to the people who still fucking replay shit like Red and Blue to this day regularly even though they've completely memorized every single part of the game several times over.

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>>72457003
>>72457024
>>72457054
>Nero gets cloning perk
>doesn't get good singing perk, because she's already perfect
>tmw x-mas rolls around
Anon no.

>> No.72457135

>>72457074
What?

>> No.72457141
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>>72457110
Not him but I like her singing.

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Let's say that both you and your waifu have one of those "leave mountains of satisfied partners in your wake without breaking a sweat" perks.

What exactly does it look like when the two of you get together?

>> No.72457180

>>72457135
>>72457074

>> No.72457193

>>72457148
Never getting anything done.

>> No.72457194

>>72457148
The both of you wake up a week later, heavily dehydrated.

>> No.72457198

>>72456997
Life Authority in any Val jump where you can be a divinity, or really any magic that can alter minds/souls. Make it so you can keep finding joy in the little things and also put a cooldown on tolerance. So that if you wait a month, the next chocolate bar you eat will be just as good as the first one you ever had. But make sure there's a cooldown on the tolerance reset, otherwise you risk an infinite loop.

>> No.72457208

>>72457110
How many Emperors are we talking? 666?

>> No.72457211 [SPOILER] 
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Monster forms that look completely human until damaged?

I wanna pull of >pic related but this time i honestly have no idea where to even start, would even take powers i have to make myself if nothing else comes to mind.

>> No.72457225

>>72457208
Whore of Babylon no.

>> No.72457235

>>72457148
Everyone can hear your shit from ten blocks over and they're getting really turned on by it. Also, you've probably broken hundreds of beds.

>> No.72457236

>>72452318
t took this image to make me realize that The Watcher is a expee for the reader and, by extension, What if... stories are fanfictions.

>> No.72457237

>>72457211
Oh yeah and spoilers for the recent OPM revisionAnd future plot point in the webcomic

>> No.72457242

One Nero Overmind in many bodies or just keep grabbing/summoning additional Neros?

>> No.72457270

>>72457242
The first sounds really appealing to me right now.

>> No.72457286

>>72456997
If you're having to force it, maybe you should just stop being human? Is there any particular reason you want to stay human?

Change is scary, but maybe this is just another step on the path to becoming your best possible self?

>> No.72457298

>>72457211
Overlord could work, entoma looks pretty human till her bugs get hurt.

>> No.72457315

>>72457211
Golems and robots are the first thing that come to mind.

Kind of like a guy getting hurt and then you realize he's actually a killer android from the future.

>> No.72457320

>>72457074
Her red and blue are timeless classics.

>> No.72457321
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>>72457148
Beast EX is born nine months later.

>> No.72457363

>>72457235
>you've probably broken hundreds of beds
There should be a short story about the owner of a small mom and pop bed store slipping something in Jumper's water in order to save the family business.

>> No.72457368
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>>72457148
You know that scene in FGO where Musashi and Sasaki use their strongest techniques on each other? It looks like that but with way more seafood metaphors.

>> No.72457377
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>>72457211
Prototype can sorta of fit the bill, you can also switch between human and monster at will, no need to get damaged.

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72457450

>>72456738
Trails of Cold Steel. While I don't care much about a few things like the Spirit Unification, Hexen magic or Panzer Soldats due to taking Testarossa, I like most of the perks and I wouldn't taking them too if I jump there again. I just like Zemuria, because there is so much shit to do there and 'characters' to play as like going in as a student of Class VII or starting early as a Drop-In and go Bracer to reach A rank in Calvard or trying to become a Dominion or just go sightseeing with Anton and Ricky. Hell, I wouldn't mind jumping a second time without a new budget to make the story go in a different way as a new game + kind of thing

Would be great to also have jumps dedicated to Liberl and Crossbell on top of the one we have for Erebonia but the timeline makes it a bit of a problem

>> No.72457496

>>72456987
>Am I limited to one type of gun?
Yep. The type you gain/choose at the start is the one you keep.
>Can any personal firearm be summoned?
The only limit seems to be that it is a small arm. No rifles/machine guns etc.
>If I have a gun from a different setting (and understand how it works) can I learn how to summon that?
Er, I'd probably say no to that.
>>72456989
No problem
Er, I'd actually probably say you couldn't change what someone already has. You can influence what they are going to get, but not change what is there. Feeds in with the whole 'removing those powers is not so simple'. Sorry for the confusion.

>> No.72457519

>>72457450
>taking Testarossa
I thought you couldn't take that one because of it being corrupted and stuck in one place?

>> No.72457534

So my weapon is now unavoidable, unblockable except via physical durability, and kills anything it lands a fatal blow on without regard for their immortality. You guys know of any weapon imports where I can round this out with a power to ignore durability and/or pierce anything?

>> No.72457539

>>72456997
Me thinks you're confusing Nirvana and Buddahood; with having that sort of power. Not every uber powerful entity goes the way of Dr. Manhatthan.

If mythology has taught us anything; even immortal primordial entities from before the creation of the world, and those who are the living manifestation of cosmological forces get horny and love a good drink.

Shit, some of the top tier hindu gods have stuff like sex, love, and the arts as major domains and interests. Meanwhile in fiction you got entities like The Q which are /more/ interested and/or passionate about mundane/mortal things; than they are with cosmic or higher order nonesense.

>> No.72457542

>>72457496
ah ok thanks can multiple ofthe same be summoned t odual weild or would that require a second Gewehr purchase?

>> No.72457559

>>72457496
>Er, I'd actually probably say you couldn't change what someone already has. You can influence what they are going to get, but not change what is there. Feeds in with the whole 'removing those powers is not so simple'. Sorry for the confusion.
Now I'm confused. So I couldn't use it on a Kampfer that already has a gun to also give them a sword to wield? Because I wasn't asking if I could delete their gun to switch it out with a sword.

>> No.72457572

Question Jumpchain, has anyone in your chain deduced your nature without prompting from yourself or a drawback?

>> No.72457579

>>72457534
its not perfect but I am fairly sure Demon weapons in Warhammer can have that power. Look at the customisation tables in Chaos Warriors and BC Part 2. I recall at least one of them having an option to ignore material defenses at least.

>> No.72457644

>>72457496
>>72457542
>No rifles/machine guns etc
Actually scrap that. Stuff like submachine guns can be summoned.

You can choose to dual wield the gun in question, but that is the extent of it I believe. Dual Wielding gives you a second type of weapon, but even without it a Kampfer can have two of their original weapon. Eg two katana's, two magnums, etc.
>>72457559
No. You can influence what someone who is not yet a Kampfer will get (eg make them gun/sword/magic) but you can't change the powers of a pre-existing Kampfer.

>> No.72457668

>>72457519
And that's why I always bring anti-corruption perks/items into the jump to deal with that. El-Plado is doable but a little gaudy for me and I don't have a problem with Zektor but Testarossa is just cooler

>> No.72457680

>>72457534
Anima Beyond Fantasy has a scenario with a weapon import that it sounds like you need.

>> No.72457684

>>72457644
Well then, John Wick build is underway.

>> No.72457699

>>72457572
Does it count if they're omniscient?

>> No.72457700

>>72457644
>No. You can influence what someone who is not yet a Kampfer will get (eg make them gun/sword/magic) but you can't change the powers of a pre-existing Kampfer.
Ah, that's a shame. Was hoping I could give others something similar to the Dual Wield perk via DD. Thanks for the answers.

>> No.72457717
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>>72457298
>>72457315
>>72457377
All really good suggestions! Thank you guys!

All the better to enforce justice.

>> No.72457734
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72457734

>>72457684
Go anon. Protect your dog!
>>72457700
Sorry anon

>> No.72457920

What magical girl jumps do we have now?

>> No.72457940

Pick a color. You can only acquire waifus with that color hair. What color do you choose and why is it red?

>> No.72457957

>>72456497
That reminds me, is there a redo jump?

>> No.72457966

>>72457920
All the ones we had before + Kampfer

>> No.72457991

>>72457957
No, there is not.
Thank fucking god for small favors.

>> No.72458008

>>72457668
>but Testarossa is just cooler
There's no denying that.

>anti-corruption perks/items
Any particularly useful ones you know of?

>> No.72458015

When you genderbend a man into a woman, what determines the size of her tits and ass? Do they remain the same height or do they shrink?

>> No.72458021

>>72457519
By the way, the state of the Knights at the start if the jump is as follows unless I have something wrong
Valimar: free but making Rean take the trials from the start if the jump
Ordine: taken by C, rested in Ordin
Testa-Rossa: corrupted due to Zoro Agrura, rests in Valflame Palace
Zektor: free, location unkown
Algreion: taken
El Plado: free, location unknown
Ishmelga: taken

During Ordine's first confrontation with Valimar, C mentions he got Ordine two years ago. Since it happens at the end of the game, hypothetically picking the 2 years early start drawback would let you cuck C out of Ordine if you rush to Ordin and clear the trials sooner than him but Ouroboros may discover it was you, fanwank on how that plot develops

So Testarossa, Zektor and El Plado are free, with Valimar too if you replace Rean and Ordine if you get it before C. Testarossa is in Valflame, either Zektor or El Plado are in Castle Lohengrim in Legram, since the trial doors where present there when Class VII visited and the other one is in an unkown location, but probably Nord Highlands or Lunaria Park because of the presence of the higher elements

>> No.72458030

Is Tanya a waifu or a daughteru?

>> No.72458031

>>72458015
>what determines the size of her tits and ass?
You, if you do it right

>> No.72458048

>>72458030
She's your dad.

>> No.72458054

>>72457991
Why do you not want this to have a jump, anon?
We have jumps for worse settings.

>> No.72458085

>>72458054
It’s a revenge fantasy isekai. It’s a special kind of awful.

>> No.72458123

>>72456497
Isn't that the one where the guy got raped, beaten, and enslaved by his party constantly, got to time travel back to before that happened, and then went ahead and let the rape, beatings, and enslavement happen anyways because of some vague idea that that needed to happen for his revenge?

>> No.72458133

>>72458123
Indeed.

>> No.72458154

>>72458133
Ah.

>> No.72458164

>>72458054
Anon.
This one is a particular brand of utter trash. It is the manga equivalent of taking a swig of awful-but-tolerable beer, only to realize somebody had been using that bottle as an ashtray and you caught a lungful of shitty booze and used cigarettes.

>>72458123
The very same.
And the protagonist, all the while, is just such an unlikable and disagreeable cunt that you feel absolutely no sympathy for him, even when he gets BLACKED by the Cannon Hero.

>> No.72458206
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72458206

Lads, I'm jumping Crusader Kings. It's 1000 AD. I've gathered an army of Norman adventurers and barely-Christianized Scandi pirates on promises of loot and land and glory and we're currently btfo'ing Islamic North Africa.
So a penny for your thoughts. Should I rebuild Carthage or Hippo Regius to be the capital for my new Kingdom of Barbary? Should the flag have a big old war elephant or a snek? A Vandal-style sun wheel? The Norse-Norman raven banner?

>> No.72458255

>>72456783
>too OP?
Wasn't it a nerfed version of the original?

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72458275

>>72457940
>What color do you choose and why is it red?
Because having red/green color blindness also gets you Palutena.

>> No.72458283

>>72456783
The problem is that the PTV power is really shit

>> No.72458307
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>>72458030
I appeared to her as "the Devil" (usually in a time stopped void but with me always existing upside down) and would offer her various ways out or some alternative that would fuck over Being X's plans to have her rely on his power and worship him. So to me Tanya became something like a daughteru I'd constantly pull out of the fire because her war against "God" amused me and because I wanted to reward her struggles. By the end she was gleefully praying to me with no compulsion whatsoever just because it annoyed the hell out of Being X who had no means of stopping her from doing so since with the power I gave her she overcame everything he threw at her.

>> No.72458351

>>72458307
>A being above
>Powers granted
>No long term goals or plans
>Gleefully praying

Since this is jumpchain you can get used to some OOC as perks can really influence certain reactions but phew lad this is some real misunderstanding of a character.

>> No.72458358

>>72457920
I'm don't know all of the ones we DO have, but I know we DON'T have:
>Ojamajo Doremi
>Wedding Peach
>Princess: the Hopeful
>Any of the PreCures
>Tokyo Mew Mew
>LunLun
>Cutie Honey(?)
>Minky Momo
>Magic Knight Rayearth(?)

>> No.72458372

>>72458206
If you can find a way to unfuck Carthage's soil then do that. But I'd only go with the war-elephant on your flag if you can find a way to militarize elephants on boats.

>> No.72458395

>>72456821
>Creative mode
No CP limits. There were some, now there are none. It can still be balanced better if you roll the chain or something, honest. Also, you can't really die and just start over if you do.
>Mail Order
Almost straight from alt chain supplement, you can "mail order" some perks from other settings, and mail-chan will deliver them to you ASAP. The price should be the same, so no worries. Combine with Creative mode for ULTIMATE FUN, all perks no danger.

>> No.72458403
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>>72458085
While I will not deny the junk food status of the setting, I have a soft spot for the artist that did the artwork for the LN, it was the reason I even bothered to read the thing.
And yeah, the story is your typical edgy tryhard thing, but I still want to jump in just to pick the girls and jump out, might even make the place more decent after chopping some heads and placing a decent person on the throne, but to fix a shithole like this you would need far more than ten years.

Most jumps I do its either because I liked the setting and want to test myself, or because the powers are fun, this one I would jump just because I like the artist behind the LN, the girls he draws have never failed to please me, they are soft in all the right ways.

>> No.72458407

>>72457734
Have a build:

Jump number whatever
+1000
Origin Red Kämpfer
Age: rolled 2+15 = 17
Location: Seitetsu Gakuin High
Kämpfer Powers [200] Gewehr[MP7](it somewhat irks me that I cant choose rifles when Gewehr is literally the german word for "rifle")
Dual Wield [100] Schwert [Karambit]
Student Chef [free]
discount Fourth Beauty [100]
discount Queen Of The School [100]
discount Old Warrior [200]
discount Erasure [300]
Items:
Contract Bracelet [Free] [Mandatory For Kämpfer]
School Bag [Free]

Drawbacks:
Cameos [+000]

For those unfamiliar with the MP7 here a few stats:
Caliber: 4.6×30mm
Weight: 4.19 lb (1.9 kg) without magazine
Length: 14.96 in (41.5 cm)
Fire Modes: Semi-Auto / Full-Auto (950-1150 rounds/min) this ones important since apparently I have infinte ammo for it.

>> No.72458412

>>72457920
Magical girl fucking marathon.

>> No.72458413

>>72458164
>This one is a particular brand of utter trash. It is the manga equivalent of taking a swig of awful-but-tolerable beer, only to realize somebody had been using that bottle as an ashtray and you caught a lungful of shitty booze and used cigarettes.
And the best part is is he still not the worst out there

>> No.72458443

>>72458164
>even when he gets BLACKED by the Cannon Hero.

Wat?

>> No.72458446
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>>72458407
why did my pic not go through?
lets try that again shall we

>> No.72458455

>>72458413
>And the best part is is he still not the worst out there
Japan.
Why?

>> No.72458465

>>72458395
>The price should be the same, so no worries.
Wait, I thought there was a 50% markup for shipping and handling. Did Mail-chan finally get with the times and waive the shipping fees?

>> No.72458471

>>72458351
No, it's you who's misunderstanding Tanya's character. Tanya's entire argument against Being X is that it proclaims itself "God" and decrees that it should be worshipped because of its existence. Tanya rejects it as the benevolent God of humanity's ideals and argues that it isn't worthy of worship merely on the merit of its existence and that if it really is God then all of the evil in the world can be laid at its feet. In her own words, if such a being existed then it would be "the Devil" rather than any God. Tanya's hatred of Being X comes from its innate pretentiousness, not the fact that it's a higher being or that it grants powers. She refuses to acknowledge or worship it as "God" like it wants because it's not God, at least not in her perception.

Tanya had very few problems or compunctions with me because I never proclaimed myself to be God nor did I demand worship. I didn't hide behind a pretentious image of righteousness, instead helping or harming people because it amused me. I admitted to being "the Devil" and this aligned with her own views. Unlike the demands of worship from God, Tanya had absolutely no compunctions whatsoever with using the Devil as a tool for her own ends. She would worship me if that's what it took because unlike God I didn't demand it of her. So she saw it not as obedience but rather an exchange of goods, a service charge for the power that I was giving her. In this way it was an exchange between equals, not a higher being who was demanding worship and obedience from her based on the merit of its mere existence and punishing her for refusal. She was free to accept or decline. She accepted out of her own free will and gleefully paid that service charge because doing so spit in the face of Being X who had forced her into her current circumstances.

>> No.72458476

>>72458413
What's the worst one out there? The only ones I know of are that one and the one where the dude fed some dude molten copper in one of the first few chapters

>> No.72458477

>>72458443
Ass Rape

>> No.72458481
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72458481

>>72458407
Gun toting school beauty huh. Lots of fun to have there!

>> No.72458514

Why don't we have any more high effort revenge stories like the Count of Monte Cristo?
"I traveled through time and now I'm op" is so fucking boring I'm wondering if all that work rotted the brains of the nips.

>> No.72458543

>>72458471
Also god apparently decided to wine about how hard his job is in front of a human resource manager so businessman Tanya told him he sucked at his job

>> No.72458566

>>72458481
pretty much, yeah. didnt want to upset the setting to much by taking one of the more aggressive drawbacks.
Even if it did deny me a Maid cafe.

Incidentally since one of the companions has "Darkness" as an element what are the ones shown/possible? Might switch to lightning for example?
I assume choosing light and creating lasers or somesuch would be too far?

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>>72458372
I'm not even sure how viable war elephants would be in terms of medieval warfare, much less shipping them around on boats, but I'm definitely keeping a small corps of Royal War Elephants if only as a vanity project.
I think the soil around Carthage shouldn't be any more or less viable than other land nearby; the Romans salted it more than 1000 years ago by now. But I suppose Carthage would make a good royal seat.

>> No.72458583
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>>72458030
Yes.

>> No.72458584

>>72458514
High effort and Isekai don't usually go hand in hand

>> No.72458607
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72458607

>>72458566
The two shown elements we saw were Fire and Light. The Wiki mentions love for some reason but I can't find any reference to that in the manga or anime.

>> No.72458610

>>72458481
I don't know why, but I feel like asking if you've read Aflame Inferno.

>> No.72458635

>>72458610
Nope, doesn't sound familiar

>> No.72458646

>>72458583
Does she end up getting dicked in canon?

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>>72458443
Cannon Hero Brett is a big black dude with a cannon, and a "cannon"

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72458675

>>72458443
>>72458662

>> No.72458696

Question Jumpchain, I need help making a decision. Should I do Touhou or Fate first.

>> No.72458697
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>>72458443
>>72458675
Because Japan
I don't know what Japan's deal is

>> No.72458717

>>72458696
Touhou is less stupid

>> No.72458722
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>>72458443
Anyways yeah, now you know why BLACKED is a thing here.

>> No.72458733

>>72458696
Touhou. It has more than 2 and a half good things under its brand.

>> No.72458754
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72458754

Is it possible to simultaneously use two different Devices in Nanoha? Like using both the Book of Darkness and Clarent, for example?
Speaking of the Book of Darkness, what would you recommend to fix it if you don't have the Book of the Dawning Sky to copy from it a sane Defense Program?

>> No.72458756

>>72458733
>half good things
Zero or Extella?

>> No.72458768

>>72458646
no as of the latest translated novel she has shown very little indication of even having entered puberty.

Due to her being a man in a female childs body there was an amusing thought by her in one of the earlier novels about whether she will end up:
mentally homosexual/physically heterosexual or
mentally heterosexual/physically homosexual

its been a while since I read it so I cant recall if she also said something about about her sorrounding culture(being early 20th century).

>> No.72458778

>>72458756
I think the only actually good things in the Fate series are Stay/Night and Zero. The Extra series without Extella is the half.

>> No.72458798

>>72458778
>I think the only actually good things in the Fate series are Stay/Night, HA and Carnival Phantasm
Fixed that.

>> No.72458817
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>>72458514
Because those stories take time to develop, sometimes even multiple books. People dont have time for that in nipland, you have 9,999.999 guys making their own stories and competing with you to get attention from publishers, so many guys for the shocking first chapter or edgy storyline first, because violence and sex sells.
Look at how goblin slayer opened the first chapter with a party full of girls getting gobbed, only for the sex/rape to almost disappear completely later on, this bait and switch method has become really popular to grab readers attention in the first chapters.

Half a king by Joe abercrombie was a good story about revenge, and the price you end up paying for it, but that was from a successful author who already had editors lining up to sell his books, most light novels in nipland are written by beginners trying to break into the market, if they cant grab readers attention and favor in the first five chapters, its over.

Much as people like to mock the nips, the west also has its shares of edgy trash fantasy novels, they do exist, believe me, I have seen those things, I have read them, just go to the kindle store and see the kind of shit people are selling.

>> No.72458819

>>72458798
I honestly forgot Carnival Phantasm and that one super comfy fate show existed. I'll add them to the list, but I think HA is bad.

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Happy 75 years of the Nazi sucking

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>>72458662
>>72458675
>>72458697
>>72458722

>> No.72458875

>>72458840
Because edgey revenge fantasy

>> No.72458890

>>72458840
Revenge Isekai as a sub-genre is guaranteed to have a continuous downward spiral of edginess so they can justify their protags acting like shitbags. It's literally just Dark!Naruto/Harry Potter fanfic in a "new" properties.

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>>72458635
Yeah, don't know why I felt the need to ask. It got put on indefinite hiatus at chapter 50, but it was a fun enough ride.

>> No.72458913

>>72458722
If a jump for this ever gets made, the legendary "BLACKED" trap drawback should be part of it, lets see if any brave anon will take it.

>> No.72458928

>>72458819
>but I think HA is bad.
Why? Haven't played in years but I don't remember anything that I disliked from it.

>> No.72458930

>>72458008
Ah, sorry for the delay. As for anti-corruption, in the past I've used a NP version of Rule Breaker from the Fate jump and another time I think something from Dark Souls in a chain I deleted a while ago, but I don't remember what it was

Others I know may work are Magical Purification Blast from Generic Magical Girl, a perk from Yugioh Duel Terminal related to the Evilswarm(can't remember the name, but it allowed to you take over previous corruption and later eliminate it), maybe applying the X-predator and X-antibody from Digimon world 4, Neo-Spacian Force from Yugioh Duel Monster Heroes. Meanwhile EVO, Silmarillion and New Phyrexia also have anti-corruption perks going by what I remember other anons saying but I don't know the names

>> No.72458936
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What should you do to the 2hus?

>> No.72458963

>>72458936
Turn them into headpat sluts.

>> No.72458985

>>72458928
Something just felt really off about the characters to me. It might be because I was using a fan translation, so that probably hurt things.

>> No.72458988

>>72458717
>>72458733
I am doing both just trying to decide which flashy anime powered lightshow with waifus I want to venture to first. So the fact that one is less stupid then another doesn't really matter. But Touhou first is a consideration

>> No.72459006

>>72458963
Why do I suddenly feel like we had an actual perk for that? Obv not using those words but still

>> No.72459015

>>72458754
Yes, but it's not a usual thing. Subaru actually does this near the end of StrikerS, but the Devices she was using were pretty much custom built to allow for paired use.
Some things to consider is that even if you do have them coded and built for that, you still have to worry about other factors like them both drawing from the same Linker Core and actually having to devote some attention to using both offensively.
>what would you recommend to fix it if you don't have the Book of the Dawning Sky to copy from it a sane Defense Program?
Depends on your approach, but generally having high-end coding skills beyond the device related perks in-jump will go a long way. More inventive methods include going in there as a NetNavi and busting some viruses, doing similar through Item World, siccing your Digimon on it, or doing some absolute jank by using the corrupt toward purity perk from Earth 11 to just brute-force the Defense Program into being the same as it was, but working toward some greater good rather than a cycle of death.
Also, depending on which continuity you follow the Materials are already in the Tome, so you might be able to wake them up for some help.

>> No.72459020
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>>72457920
>Cardcaptor Sakura
>Generic Magical Girl
>Lyrical Nanoha
>Flip Flappers
>Madoka
>Madoka Magicka Wraith Timeline
>Magical Girl Noir
>Hazredous Interruptions
>Neptunia
>Mermaid Melody Pichi Pichi Pitch
>Prisma Illya
>Ore ga Twintail
>Puella Magi Homura Tamura
>Kill la Kill
>Kampfer
>Sailor Moon
>Symphogear
>Yuki Yuuna is a Hero
>Wild Cardz
>Hazredous Interruptions
>Accidental Magical Girl+DLC(CYOA)

QQ has
>Bio-Weapon Quest
>Generic Hentai Magical Girl
>Magical Girl Fucking Project
>Milk Hunters(Pretty Cure)

Also, Maplestory has a character class that's a Magical Girl

>> No.72459032

>>72458988
Touhou powers can help in Fate' grail Wars but Fate powers arent really relevant in touhou due to Danmaku being a thing

>> No.72459055

>>72458875
>>72458890
Does anybody actually enjoy this outside of irony?

>> No.72459078

>>72459055
It's a sub-set of power fantasy. So, yes. Yes, people do like this.

>> No.72459085

>>72459055
Not spend alot of time among edgy teenagers lately, huh

>> No.72459096

>>72459020
If you're counting jumps with Magical Girls, Cardfight Vangaurd actually has magical girls

>> No.72459109

>>72459055
Edgy 14 year old chuunis, dude. Have you seen fanfiction? Of the trash stories that exist, like a solid 1/3rd are "Edgy protagonist/other character is done dealing with the world's shit and is gonna strap on some leather boots to stomp out and own them."

>> No.72459115

>>72459020
>QQ has
>Bio-Weapon Quest
>Generic Hentai Magical Girl
>Magical Girl Fucking Project
>Milk Hunters(Pretty Cure)
World of Tentacles has some Magical Girl related stuff too. An option to be one, a companion that's your Magical Girl Mascot Animal, and a drawback that'll get you in a fight with a group of four Magical Girls that you can keep post jump

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>>72459055
Yes, but most of them fail staying entertaining past the first few chapters, just like most fanfics. Still want more though.

>> No.72459145

>>72459096
Huh, no idea why that's still there but thanks

>>72459115
And you too

>> No.72459169

>>72459145
Those are both me btw, I just remembered the World of Tentacles thing after posting the bit about Cardfight Vanguard.

>> No.72459186

>>72459055
The only one I've ever watched was the Shield Hero anime, which I'm told dialed the edginess way down from the manga or light novels. I thought it was alright for the most part, though there were some things that started to bug me about it towards the end of the season. I don't think I could put up with something like Arifureta or this healer anime shit.

>> No.72459191

>>72459145
Another fun thought is that jumps like Justice League Unlimited, Hisghschool DxD, and a few others have the means to let you make magical girls through their power customizers.
Not really a focus on them, but the idea's there at least.

>> No.72459209

>>72459020
Do the main characters in FFX-2 count as magical girls? They all got a transformation trinket from a small being, and are fighting to save the world and get Yuna's boyfriend back.

>> No.72459247

>>72453961
Seems like it'd be easy to defend receiving gates. If it activates on its own just toss a rock through to the would-be invaders. Instant nuke.

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>>72459020
I would like to add Carnival Phantasm to this list, Rin and Arcueid are both magical girls there. Or at least larp as ones.

>> No.72459254

>>72457211
I did something like that in Kumo. Start as a clay doll golem, later develop a more humanoid form and a wooden outer layer to look like a marionette, and eventually it ended up looking like a human skin layer that covered a wooden layer with doll joints and then the inner earth layer. Normally I probably wouldn't have much problem developing a fire resistance but since I took that marionette evolution path, well, both Kumo and I ended up being useless in the Middle Stratum of Elro and had to improvise

>> No.72459277

>>72459209
>Yuna's boyfriend
No, they don't count as magical girls. Too straight

Thanks for the suggestion

>>72459251
Sure, why not

>> No.72459323

>>72459277
By that logic, Sakura wouldn't count vis-a-vis Syaoran.

>> No.72459338

>>72459209
>ultimate dresspheres allow you to literally pull a FF boss transformation in-game
>we never get this mechanic in any other game afterwards
Seriously, fuck you Square. Why does everybody else get to transform but I don't?

>> No.72459349

>>72454530
Might as well make a build for my own jump!
Origin: White Kampfer
Location: Japan
Perks:
>Kampfer Powers [200] [Zauber - Light]
>Dual Wield [100] [Schwert - Arming Sword]
>Direct My Own Shown [100]
>Flash And Done [Free]
>Lucky Dodge [200]
>Hypnosis [200]
>Devil's Deal [300]
Items:
>Contract Bracelet [Free]
>School Bag [Free]
>Costume Box [50]
Companions:
>Childhood Friend [50]
>Rosy Red
>Two For Blue [100]
Drawbacks:
>Cameos [+000]
>Grabby Grabby [+100]
>Rumour Mill [+100]
>Battle Of Attrition [+200]

So, for this Jump, Jumper is a White Kampfer. They are not involved in the war but they also won't be too bothered by the way stopping. Their power mainly involved shooting beams of light out from their sword while shouting Excalibur!!! (The shout was not necessary).
It took a while but Jumper managed to disrupt the Original statue to stop the war. However, they then gave back the Kampfer powers to the main characters using Devil's Deal. Because why not? It was kind of funny having two Akanes since her original alter ego separated but then with her gaining Kampfer powers again we had a violent Kampfer Akane and a shy Kampfer Akane. While destroying the statue Jumper encountered the Natsuru clone, who they took home and housed. Thus we had two Natsuru's and two Akanes.

>> No.72459363

>>72459338
Don't worry anon X-3 is literally coming any moment soon because Kitase loves the setting as much as Toriyama loves his waifu.

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>>72459323
You know, now that somebody mentions it...

How did you guys go about solving the Tomoyo problem?

>> No.72459366

>>72459338
Because you didn't grow up obsessed with an ancient love story that somehow spawned an ice goddess.

>> No.72459384

I don't have to. The Servant Supplement states right out that all you need is a weapon or attack that is capable of harming spirits, since that is what Servants are. That is, you can destroy a ghost with it, not that it's a Noble Phantasm - a magical laser, for example.

Now, you're likely going to post something about how the Servant Supplement could not possibly be correct or some such but let's be honest here, at this point all you're doing is trying to "disprove" my assertion that Wishcraft and Emerald are sufficient purchases for Prisma Illya simply because it doesn't include all those shiny toys you want to play with. Which is the real reason you keep up this hopeless tangent, right? Never mind that Wishcraft + Emerald already lets you pull all the sweet flashy moves you want out of your ass, you've just gotta keep up with the Servant Joneses and bust out Excaliblasts and Gay Bulges and rains of swords and all that.

Well, here's some bad news for you - we don't have to add all the toys you want to the shopping list. Not only are Class Cards not necessary to live through Prisma Illya or take out enemy Servants, but I've already given you a means to get more fiat-backed Class Cards for free injump via a Drawback only for you to poopoo it. Well guess what? All you have to do is fanwank that a mirror Archer Card spawned because of the Drawback and bam, there's your shiny toy to play with. And no, I don't want some nonsense about how the mirror Archer Card isn't the "real" Archer Card, it works just as good and won't screw over the canon cast.

This is the last time I'm going to go over things with you. Wishcraft and Emerald is all a jumper needs, period.

>> No.72459399

>>72459364
By having Syaoran not get anywhere near Sakura.

>> No.72459401

>>72459338
Vincent from FF7 Rinoa from FF8, and everyone in FF9 also have dramatic transformations that make them significantly more powerful as their limit breaks

... But yeah it's a bit weird that limit breaks haven't really been a thing since.

>> No.72459413

>>72459399
Good. Being brainwashed into loving someone because of their magical power is fucking weird and creepy.

>> No.72459429

>>72457940
Got blue

>> No.72459445

>>72459364
by actually explaining things to Sakura and giving her a choice. And doing so early enough for it to matter.
OR depending on how late I take CCS in chain matchmaking perks.

>> No.72459449

>>72459363
As long as it's not XIII-4

>> No.72459452

>>72459364
What's the Tomoyo problem?

>> No.72459525

Wait a moment, Tomoyo appears in the manga? What timeline did I come to? She was an anime only character.

>> No.72459561

>>72459452
Tomoyo is extremely gay for Sakura but Sakura is totally oblivious to her feelings. Tomoyo also won't confess her feelings because she thinks Sakura would be happier with Syaoran for some reason.

>> No.72459564

Do elves have the right to stop Jumpers from playing with their cute pointy ears?

>> No.72459577

>>72459564
Dude, just become an elf and then you can play with your own ears.

>> No.72459581

>>72459452
Tomoyo is in love with Sakura but has that whole "I want my beloved to be happy" perspective and for some stupid reason thinks others can make Sakura happier.Once again stupid. Even when directly questioned about love by Sakura she talks around it. Sakura being Sakura wishes her luck with her love
She never even tries. That this is a crossgenerational problem that happened between their respective mothers makes it just stupider.

>> No.72459582

>>72459564
Elves don't even get panty privileges much less immunity from Jumper giving them ear-gasms whenever he feels like it.

>> No.72459583

>>72459006
Here

>> No.72459594

>>72459452
She's been in love with Sakura for a long time but thinks it's impossible for them to be together and thus contents herself to making Sakura as happy as possible. She thinks that doing so will be enough to make her happy but based on what we see from her mom (who had the same sort of thing with Sakura's mom) it probably won't and she'll just end up lonely and regretful.

>> No.72459595

>>72459564
Yes. You know they do, you just get off on humiliating people and refuse to acknowledge consent.

>> No.72459621

>>72459595
I try to assuage my fear of being powerless by making other people feel powerless.

>> No.72459624

>>72459595
>humiliating people
No one but you mentioned people.

>> No.72459627

>>72459594
>>72459581
So basically we need to give one of them a massive futa dick

>> No.72459657

>>72459621
You do know that only begets a spiral of retaliation that serves no more than to escalate your desire to obtain and (ab)use power, right?

>> No.72459667

>>72459627
Literally not the worst idea/solution. Have to think about which ones reaction would be funnier

>> No.72459687

>>72459561
>Tomoyo also won't confess her feelings
She literally did confess that one time though. It's just that Sakura's got the density of lead and didn't understand what she was talking about despite Tomoyo literally clarifying that the kind of love she was talking about was different from the friendship that Sakura was thinking of.

>> No.72459694

>>72458819
>that one super comfy fate show existed
Today's Menu for the Emiya Family?

>> No.72459698

>>72459657
Yeah, but what are ya gonna do?

>> No.72459705

>>72458985
>>72458819
Actually now that I think about it, it might have been the translations Goji, given that the cooking show grabs a ton of scenes from HA.

>> No.72459713

>>72459687
Sure but Tomoyo also knows how Sakuras head works and certainly never clears up Sakuras misinterpretation

>> No.72459767

>>72459713
She's probably afraid she'll be rejected and lose Sakura as a friend.

>> No.72459807

>>72459621
You have to go back in time and secretly slip The Futanari card into Clow's deck while he's not looking.

>> No.72459857

>>72459807
meant for
>>72459627

>> No.72459859

>>72459694
Yeah, that one.

>> No.72459860

Hey anons, do you ever do anything before the chain, so that the adventure starts first and the chain only later? If so, what is it? A reincarnation, self insert, a cyoa that is not jumpchain or something else?

>> No.72459895

>>72459860
>inb4 "hurr durr Slut Life"

>> No.72459918

>>72459860
I've occasionally toyed with a pre-chain jump that the Benefactor sets up as a test. Something like "Here's Fate/Stay Night, win the grail war and I'll give you a chain."

>> No.72459920

>>72459895
Not slut life again..

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Question for NuBee
Now that Shiggy has been revealed to have AfO and AfO having a copy of the original, when will AfO be a purchase?

>> No.72459936

>>72459860
I've been tempted to make Chain of Isekai as my first "jump". It works, the framing device of Chain of Isekai is that you've been abducted by a trans-dimensional machine that needs you to interact with the narratives of other worlds in order to draw significance and energy from. The more plot you interact with, the more likely the Chain is to see you as a solid investment and send you on to further worlds. The CYOA itself sends you to an original setting, but I can see it blending into established IPs.

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>>72459930
Not like this. Not like this.

>> No.72459980
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>>72459020
Thanks for the list. I'm sure Kanon would have been a great magical girl.

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>>72458963
Based.

>> No.72460018

>>72459918
Not a bad idea, I'm toying with something like this myself. Or to be precise, since my jumper powers his own chain and the benefactor is more like a nice, omnipotent manager, maybe something like the jumper finds themselves in some shitty place like ASOIAF, and have to unlock the ability to start awakening the spark and start the chain, or something to that effect.

>>72459936
Huh, sounds neat! I like the energy idea, I usually wank that in universe the jumper slogs through the bad worlds because he's collecting karma energy, to make the eventual spark awakening more powerful, mostly as an in universe reason to not to cheese by going to get op powers from the start and "enforce" slow escalation.

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>>72459980
In time it'll happen. Just wait and believe in Masked Ogre

>Kanon as a magical girl
Mahou Shoujou Zenryoku Zenkai

>> No.72460071

>>72459930
>Spoiler
Shigaraki:"Oh boy here i go killing again!"

>> No.72460075
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>>72459930
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>> No.72460089
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>>72460045
>Mahou Shoujou Zenryoku Zenkai

Already spoken for.

>> No.72460143

>>72458936
Confiscate their panties. Put aphrodisiacs in the water supply. Challenge them to danmaku and fuck them if you win.

>> No.72460188

>>72460089
Friendly reminder that Nanoha might actually be certifiably mental.
Like, what kind of mundane suburbanite upbringing did she have to undergo to somehow be a bigger (if equally successful) try-hard determinator than damn near any shonen protagonist who actually has a stated goal? The more I reflect on how she behaves in some fights the more I start to worry she's got some serious issues brewing that are lowkey absolutely terrifying.

>> No.72460225

>>72458936
Unleash an infestation of goblins to gob them all.

>> No.72460226

>>72460188
Nanoha is the kid of multiple ninjas

>> No.72460258

>>72460188
Nanoha started as a Triangle Heart character. While the actual series goes out of its way to not bring attention to it, there are hints that her entire family is weird/still have their old backstories to some extend.

>> No.72460314

>>72460188
>mundane suburbanite upbringing
>Takamachi
lol no

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72460319

>>72458936
Set up a hotspring monopoly and become the richest guy in Gensokyo

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Hey Val, Kama and Beast III/L materials were translated. I thought it ma help for your next Legends jumps.

https://www.reddit.com/r/FGOGuide/comments/gfyc0z/beast_iiils_servant_profile_from_fgo_material_viii/
https://www.reddit.com/r/FGOGuide/comments/gfybzr/kamas_servant_profile_from_fgo_material_viii/

>> No.72460325

When you finish skyrim you are the strongest of the dragons according to them right? And they follow the strongest? Does this mean they would be valid as a race import for stellaris because Im trying to get a space fleet of angry dragons.

>> No.72460385

>>72460226
>>72460258
>>72460314
Does this mean that if you want to make a normal person into a protagonist, you just have to raise them in a family of ninjas before introducing them to literal magic?

>> No.72460386

>>72460314
>>72460226
Did I Miss someth-
>>72460258
Oh...
Well then, that sounds like an interesting research project to follow through on later. At east that'd explain why they were okay with glossing over the whole "Leaving to be magical space interpol in another solar system, and also there's a magical space interpol." thing that is the transition from earlier Lyrical Nanoha to the later era/generations.

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>>72460226
>>72460258
>>72460314

>> No.72460423

>>72453206
mages in YS are basically the equivalent of helicopter gunships with really deep ammunition loads, and since AA is still pretty imprecise at that point of their timeline it's hard to counter them short of having your own mages on the field. The other thing is that they're effectively supersoldiers, because they can use magic to reinforce their bodies (not to an extreme extent, maybe captain america tier?) and can create magical barriers/shields around themselves to block shots from other mages. As you might imagine this makes them a nightmare to fight for regular infantry, but there's so few mages comparatively speaking that they're almost always busy countering enemy mages rather than taking the fight to the ground. God forbid the kind of nightmare scenario it would be to have to defend a bunker or a ship from even a handful of mages if all you had were regular dudes with regular hand held weaponry.

>> No.72460424

>>72458936
Just try to befriend them while also being a little boy.

>> No.72460431

>>72460325
Sure why not. I've seen people use it for way worse.

>> No.72460481

>>72460385
>>72460386
I cant for the life of me seem to find a decent screenshot of it now but early in Nanoha you see her Father shirtless. he has multiple scars from knifes and whats clearly a former bullet wound on his chest

>> No.72460555

>>72460423
Isn't that basically what happens with Dakia?

>> No.72460564

>>72460386
>At east that'd explain why they were okay with glossing over the whole "Leaving to be magical space interpol in another solar system, and also there's a magical space interpol." thing that is the transition from earlier Lyrical Nanoha to the later era/generations.
It helps that dimensional transfer is pretty easy in the setting, so for Nanoha it’s more like she moved to another city for her job and she can head over and visit her family whenever she’s got a few hours.

>> No.72460591

>>72454362
in fairness to Mayuri, he's actually loyal to his organization. Amoral monster he may be but he gets results and he doesn't backstab people unless they try to backstab him first. Honestly if you're looking for a mad scientist type with no morals you could do a lot worse than Mayuri.

>> No.72460613

>>72459930
Still probably never. This place really is the worst about trying to remain unspoiled on popular things.

>> No.72460630

>>72454693
there's the mother of the world tree from quest for glory 2&3. canonically it's big enough that there's a stream and a pond on top of it, and probably enough space to just build an actual house, much less a tree house. The thing is at least hundreds of meters tall, and possibly a thousand or more.

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>>72460385
>>72460386
>>72460481
Nanoha's dad everyone.Former professional bodyguard

>> No.72460646

>>72460591
I mean there was that time he rigs some random Shinigami to blow in order to catch some invaders off guard.

>> No.72460662

>>72460613
Will you say the same when another 5 characters use AfO?

>> No.72460668

>>72460646
He's loyal to the mission but not exactly the people. Like that time he had a secret camera network all over the place.

>> No.72460683

>>72460423
What do Computation Orbs even do?

>> No.72460719

Speaking of stellaris how fucked up would it be to import humanity from dark souls as our race? If you follow the line of dark lord you rule them in the time after the flame has dwindled.

>> No.72460753

>>72460683
Super good computer processing.

>> No.72460755

>>72460613
just make it 1200 CP like your girl lol

>> No.72460766

Got the perks mostly in place but I'm looking for some help filling the few holes. Anyone got any suggestions before the thread ends?

>> No.72460779

>>72458936
Torture the idiotic worthless f*males to death.

>> No.72460793

>>72460613
I'm really sorry that you had to do that long quirk table, but in a series with so many powers, it would have been better to just do a custom power option.
Also just put OfA under a scenario or an expensive perk. Now that AfO gives you 7 quirks, it's not that much of change.

>> No.72460813

>>72460683
help you with magic formula. while its rarely brought up magic in YS is actually quite complicated. its not a perfect analogue but think of it like trying to do advanded mathematics purely in your head. While potenially also trying to dodge enemy bullets. Thus the orbs to help with that. One of the novels has a bit more information regarding the different types of orbs and why multi core orbs(essentially parallel processing) are both awesome and really hard to build etc. but I dont have the details memorised.

>> No.72460815

>>72456221
in fairness Sauron was still running around in valinor at that time, so if knowledge of the city was common place Sauron would know to look for it later on to try and sack it. If he doesn't even know the city exists though he'd have no reason to look for it.

>> No.72460818

>>72460662
>All for One becomes All for All so the villains can keep up with Deku

>> No.72460830

>>72460779
M*les are the F*males of the 2hu setting.

>> No.72460838

>>72460662
If it ever gets to the point where everyone has it, then it should be pretty easy to convince one of them to give it to you too.

>>72460668
I feel like he's less loyal to the mission and more or less believes the institution is convenient to his ends and won't try to rock the boat as a result. He won't fuck with anyone actually important, but they'll let him blow up the rank and file as long as it's not too many.

>>72460793
You mixed up the acronyms.

>> No.72460844

>>72460830
Continuing to amass evidence you're just a f*male infiltrating this thread.

>> No.72460853

>>72456497
why would anyone want to beat up and enslave the guy whom they presumable rely on to heal them in battle? Do they not realize said dude could just, you know, not heal them? And then they'd be fucked?

>> No.72460867

>>72460853
They have him addicted to a drug to coerce heals out of him.

>> No.72460880

>>72456752
def not string theory, she's one of the strongest tinkers around. iirc she's basically like Leet in that she can make anything with her drawback being that it has to be done in a time limit or else catastrophic backfires happen. But she's the one that made the mass driver which iirc was supposed to pull the moon out of orbit.

>> No.72460899

>>72459930
Thanks for reminding me I still haven't passed by to crush the league of edgelords in my current chain. AfO is about to eat a Megidoladyne to the face the moment I decide on a Quirk combo

>> No.72460926

Jumpers, which Touhous did you companion and what kinds of problems did they cause in other worlds?

>> No.72460983

>>72460926
Lemme get my list.
>Yukari
>Reimu
>Marisa
>Sanae
>Suika
>Chen
>Ran
>Satori
>Orin
>Okuu
>Kogasa
>Momiji
>Aya
>Kagerou

>what kinds of problems did they cause in other worlds?
All of them.

>> No.72461059

>>72460880
Just about any Tinker is capable of building shit that could destroy the world if given enough time and resources. Bakuda is capable of potentially shitting on Endbringers and can make basically anything that has the function of "exploding" which includes things like time stop bombs, crystallization bombs, bombs that explode out to an enormous distance and then implode to crush everything caught inside into a hyper-dense sphere, bombs that outright disintegrate all matter, etc. Compare this to Dragon, who can copy any Tinkertech she sees and snowball exponentially into more advanced tech. Armsmaster, who can build practically anything he can think of (meaning he's essentially Leet without the limit) AND make it ludicrously small and efficient. Blasto, who casually cloned a horrifying Super Simurgh to make "The Morrigan" by cloning her and fusing her genes with those of Myrrdin. So not only does it have the Simurgh's precog and telekinesis, it also has Myrrdin's dimensional fuckery. Bonesaw, who can casually make hybrid capes, create self-perpetuating monstrosities, and work with powers. Or Richter, who can copy practically any Thinker or Tinker power in existence through his programs and devices.

>> No.72461143

I have a question, but I'll wait till the next thread

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