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Harbinger of Shitposting Edition

>Previous thread:
>>70852526
>Warcry general:
>>70832381

>Official AoS website
https://www.ageoftsigmar.com
>Downloads; Rules Errata and FAQs:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/downloads/
https://www.warhammer-community.com/faqs/
>Resources
pastebin.com/UVKnsh7d
>AoS Novels, Battletome PDF and Audiobooks
mega.nz/#F!nBxkXCIK!UwJsa5-Gdot44HsxoVaKiA
>Tools
warhammer-community.com/warscroll-builder/
warhammer-community.com/2017/09/26/make-your-own-free-city-the-easy-way-sep26gw-homepage-post-4/
repl.it/repls/FrivolousBelovedEmperorpenguin
nofile.io/f/EbyKWbMJVbM/dark+elf+photoshop+template.psd

>Thread question:
oh god oh fuck why

>> No.70858530
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70858530

TICK TOCK SIGGY NIGGYS
LOOKS LIKE OLD WORLD IS SHAPING UP TO BE KINOTASTIC JUST LIKE WE THOUGH

>> No.70858536
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70858536

No rest until new Ironjawz models!

>> No.70858551

>>70858530
I can't find it suprising that someone that can't read, can't write properly either.

>> No.70858555
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>Wrath of Gork: roll 2 dice for each IJ unit of 2+ models wholly within 16"
>40mm base
>MSU as 5x32mm bases for Ardboys
How many ardboys could you deathstar around this guy?

>> No.70858563
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70858563

the old world and the age of sigmar will complement and cover each other nicely

the only ones who are going to be disappointed will be pathological whiners with unreasonable expectations and inability to commit

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>>70858536
I just want them to add classic orcs and goblins to ironjawz.

>> No.70858598
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70858598

WATCH THE CLOCK
TICK TOCK

>> No.70858601

>>70858501
she pretty :>

>> No.70858603

>Instructions about how to deal with grog shitposters:

1.Ignore tick tock/grog posting
2.Dont waste time asking those posters to go wfb
3.Keep the thread AoS related
4.Old World is FW stuff

>> No.70858612

>>70858563
>all the ugly factions like stormcast only work in one game, so people start only buying the aesthetic armies that work in both settings like nighthaunt, chaos, and gloomspite

Fail to see any problem

>> No.70858619 [DELETED] 

>>70858501
*takes big sip*
welp looks like I am rebasing my CoS into rightful empire
Feels good

>> No.70858620

>>70858586
No thanks kek

>> No.70858637
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>>70858551
tick tock
we have Total War normie money on our side

>> No.70858643

>>70858603
>Instructions on how to cope now that your zoomy game has a doomsday clock

1. Buy more stormcast goy
2. Paint your Aelven Spaeurmen black
3. Seethe at square bases
4. Continue not playing games

>> No.70858644

>>70858612
>Fail to see any problem
There wouldn't be any problem if they fixed the several armies in AoS that are in limbo and hadn't switched to round bases.

>> No.70858659

Are merc companies match play legal still? Can I use the one with organ guns and cannons even though they r squat?

>> No.70858669

Will GW shift into the 25mm market for The Old World?
>cheap as shit so total war fans would be more interested
>very little high quality competition for fantasy miniatures
>previously mentioned lower price combined with smaller scale allow for larger battles making Sigmar the "large scale skirmish" game and fantasy the "mass battle" game

>> No.70858673

>>70858536
>WHY DON'T IRONJAWZ HAVE MORE MODELS?!
>GW gives Ironjawz fags the options to use 3 armies, with synergies with Grots wizard allies for free like they're actually part of the army
>NO IRONJAWZ NEED BRUTES BUT BIGGER!
Ironjawz don't need an expansion, they need a rules rework. Ardboys are too good by comparison. Everything has virtually identical profiles. Every clan is pretty much just "free movement mechanic". Ironfist is the only good battalion.

>>70858586
They're oop, but you can play them in the big waaagh... With Ironjawz.

>> No.70858677

Holy fuck, shitposter-kun is in overdrive today.

>> No.70858690

>>70858669
Anon there's barely any fucking difference between 25mm and 28mm.

>> No.70858691

>>70858643
Based.

>> No.70858700

>>70858501
Wait a second the cute painting white girl was actually working as clerk at warhammer world in September, I remember her because she had turqoise hair. Do they let clerks work on systems now?

>> No.70858711

>>70858673
>They're oop, but you can play them in the big waaagh... With Ironjawz.
I know, I just want them to sell them again.

>> No.70858713

>>70858501
Still fairly certain that this will just be collapsing the Mortal Realms into the Old World, keeping the new models but dropping the new lore.

>> No.70858718

>>70858700
She literally posted her models on 4chan dude, and they use her for all the pr because she's a cute girl.

>> No.70858725

>>70858700
You fucking ape, she’s a painter for GW. Was likely filling in as a clerk for the day.

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>KO guy at the LGS accidentally called his endrinriggers endrinniggers
I feel like GW did this intentionally

>> No.70858739

>>70858713
That's stupid though.

>> No.70858740

>>70858563
I think TOW WOULD compliment AoS if it were focused on the Gods of AoS, since Empire civil wars and all the characters of 6th-8th edition who died in ET are irrelevant. Origin stories would have been better, but the models would be more fantastical since the times of legend were all magic weapons and glorious warriors rather than faith steel and gunpwoder.

>> No.70858747 [DELETED] 

>>70858563
>He thinks people will still buy age of smegma

Yikes

>> No.70858767

>>70858718
Sounds cool.
It seems to me people working in Nottingham have way better possibilities than the slaves in London and outside. >>70858725
You realize seeing a studio painter fill in as cashier is weird right? Imagine seeing Peachy behind the counter.

>> No.70858780
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70858780

Want to make some coastal themed human druid dudes to count as sisters of the thorn

picrelated is a concept - coral instead of antlers, fur painted like seaweed etc

if youve got any ideas lemme know

>> No.70858794
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>>70858690
Haha yeah...

>> No.70858817

>>70858794
I don't even know what you are trying to prove with that pic.

>> No.70858827

>>70858817
Look how fucking small the 1/72 scale is to 28mm you colossal retard. No difference my ass

>> No.70858840

>>70858794
You haven't even got 25mm on there

>> No.70858850

Considering GW now is caving to fans for the most part, and how they handled Warcry(game evidently designed for Chaos warbands, got aos shit shoehorned inside), I think they will find a way to put AoS stuff in ToW. Some IDK can be Mathlann followers, OBR can be special units for TK or VC etc. Etc.
They would be missing on free money by not doing it.
>b-but the designs don't fit!
I know, but GW clearly doesn't care considering some of the stuff you can use in AoS.

>> No.70858853

Everyone is down for The Old World until they realize this is forge worlds baby and they will have to pay out the nose for shitty resin and wait months for restocks.

>> No.70858873

>>70858850
AoS is the barnes and noble side game meant to fund Fantasy. They just killed fantasy so they could focus on an entirely new, better line of minis while AoS got stuck with all the old shit

>> No.70858876

>>70858827
25mm is 1/64, hard tard

>> No.70858878

>>70858827
LotR is 25mm and it isn't that tiny.

>> No.70858884

>>70858794
1/72 isn't really what the modern industry considers 25mm.

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Fuck the OW shitposters are in full force... Time to leave until next week.

>> No.70858902

>new Empire bits to doll up my Freeguild
>more dwarf bits to doll up Clan Valjorn
Yessssssssssssssssssssss
I'll nut if they just randomly put some fucking Lizardmen in it I don't give a fuck if its Forge World(tm) I just need some fucking bits man

>> No.70858908

>>70858850
>b-but the designs don't fit!
But they do. Whomever says WHFB and AoS have different aesthetics when it comes to models is just a retard. The only real difference is in the quality of armour design in stormcasts (and other models released during the first months of AoS like Archaon, the varanguard or blood warriors) compared to everything else.

>> No.70858913

>>70858902
if its a chance to get better handgunner sculpts im all for it

>> No.70858918

>>70858853
Necromunda and Bloodbowl are forgeworld

>> No.70858939

>>70858908
>Whomever says WHFB and AoS have different aesthetics when it comes to models is just a retard
Nah, there's a definite difference. Modern AoS has just been moving back toward WHFB design space, which gives credence to the notion that GW will try to make models for both games interchangeable. Early AoS stuff like Sylvaneth, Stormcast, Idoneth, etc, are a completely different kind of fantasy aesthetic that owe more to modern videogames than classic fantasy.

>> No.70858942

>>70858918
Also kill-team and warcry I believe? Basically they are responsible for all the good rules GW's games get.

>> No.70858946

>>70858913
Freeguild would just need new guard, new handgunners, maybe regular knights, the war altar to come back and a plastic warrior priest.

>> No.70858948

>>70858908
Nighhaunt, gloomspite, iornjaws, most of the nuchaos, and DoK fit

Sylvaneth are questionable.

Nudwarves, bone boys, sea elves, and the rest really don't.

>> No.70858954

>>70858900
its gonna be like that every time OW is mentioned. even if the posts destroy their headcannon theyll be here. ill see you next week. Hopefully no more OW news for a long time.

>> No.70858958

>Empire back
>Dispossessed back
>Bretonnia Back
>Tomb Kings back
>Greenskinz/Gitmob back

What a time to be alive! Fuck you zoomers!

>> No.70858973

>>70858939
>Early AoS stuff like Sylvaneth, Stormcast, Idoneth, etc, are a completely different kind of fantasy aesthetic that owe more to modern videogames than classic fantasy.
But that's completely false. Again, it's only stormcasts, blood warriors and the varanguard/Archaon because their armour looks like shit anime armour but everything else is fine.
>>70858948
>Nudwarves, bone boys, sea elves, and the rest really don't.
Based on what? There's nothing in their designs that wouldn't work in WHFB.

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70858984

>>70858900
I'm not sure it's even an OW fan (or fans) doing it - a ticktock post appeared in /wfg/ too. Though it's not as bad there as the shit we get here, I'm pretty sure it's just the same cunt(s) doing it in both threads.

>> No.70858988

>>70858939
>>70858948
Also new sylvaneth units took the look from the plastic treemen, which were in WHFB already.

>> No.70858995

re-asking
>>70858375

>> No.70859006

Why don’t old world fags just go to the WHFB general, or make their own thread? If you hate AoS so much why come here?

>> No.70859009

Does Sigmar have different aspects of worship like Nagash does?

/mydudes/ fluff for my port city is that they worship him as the great celestial navigator and controller of weather and seas - wanted to know if there's precedent for that sort of thing?

>> No.70859010

>>70858984
>I'm pretty sure it's just the same cunt(s) doing it in both threads.
It usually is """"trannyposting"""" is a 40kg immigrant shitpost there are also a few genuinely stupid people mind you

>> No.70859011
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>actual good paintjob and tutorial from nu-warhammertv
finally. They even used contrast paints in the video but used them as more of a wash alternative (the way they should be used). Hopefully they stick with these again instead of full contrast shitshows and battle ready models

>> No.70859014

>>70858954
I suppose. Good luck for the anons who stay, next week with Lumineth news i will be back hopefully with less delusional shitpost.

>> No.70859015

>>70858673
that is your, wrong, opinion.

>> No.70859018

>>70858995
In rats bigger blocks are always better.

>> No.70859034

>>70859011
All the Underworlds painting tutorials are like that, anon. There's a difference between the proper painting tutoirals they make with new releases and the daily battle ready videos.

>> No.70859053

>Old World comes back and is put together with AoS
>AoS lands stay the realms of winds of magic that can be accessed via portals from old world
There, solved. Even both ranges can be used.

>> No.70859057

>>70858850
I'm not sure if they'll give them straight rules but assuming they give all old Fantasy races rules then it's pretty easy to find rules for each new army. Only one that could be a struggle is Stormcast as Ogres are the only army with a big enough scale but they don't really fit the aesthetic. But yeah you can easily say Bonereapers are a group of Tomb Kings that settled in Cathay, IDK are some mutated Corsairs, KO are just some Dwarf engineers, etc.

>> No.70859065

>Lumineth drip feed every 2 weeks
I guess tomorrow we get the article?

>> No.70859074
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>old world setting but with AoS rules (and a couple additional rules from whfb)

>> No.70859077

>>70859065
Next monday. It's such a pain. If it were weekly at least...

>> No.70859085

>>70858973
Yes, of course flying sharks and flying eels fit just right in whfb aesthetics!
And 18th century dwarven sailors with cutlasses and steam powered brass baloons, I totally remember those in whfb!

>> No.70859088

>>70859009
>Does Sigmar have different aspects of worship
Yes for example he has two major aspects the warrior/barbarian which he was in the age of myth and the god king which he is now. There are also cases of him being worshipped through proxy such as the people who live on Shu'Gohl, blessed be his coming and going, the crawling city a massive fucking worm that travels around Ghur and is curre.tmy infested with gay ass Skaven since the realmgate wars because Shu'Gohl is crowned by a realmgate/stormcloud and is also in the procession of one of the thirteen plagues somewhere in his body

Another thing is Sigmar has twelve names, twelve being his holy number, twelve being the rune blades he gifted to the mortal tribes, twelve as is the twelve pointed star of Azyr, and twelve as the names inscribed into every armor of stormcast to ward them from the influences and rigours of chaos

Theres also a precedence for polytheistic worship even amongst the stormcast. Like the celestial vindicators who worship the twelve blades Sigmar gifted alongside him or the astral templars who also worship a godbeast/man called Ulrist I believe.

>> No.70859089

>>70859006
Anytime Age of sigmar or fantasy is mentioned outside the generals it becomes an all out shitpost war of people screaming grog and cuck at each other, not sure what you expect from something this Skub.

>> No.70859093
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>>70858501
Soon

>> No.70859097

>>70859074
what would even be the point of that? it would add actually nothing

>> No.70859109

>>70859085
>Yes, of course flying sharks and flying eels fit just right in whfb aesthetics!
Yes, why not? There's nothing stopping WHFB from having the same spells that let the idoneth use the aethersea.
> I totally remember those in whfb!
Fitting the setting doesn't mean that it has always existed, anon.

>> No.70859111

>>70859089
I would say that Fantasy getting mentioned outside of the generals isn't a problem, it's only when Fantasy gets posted in this general in particular.

>> No.70859120

>>70858900
>they talk about what I don't like therefore they are shitposters
small brain

>> No.70859121
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>>70859011
>That Tzaangor video from a couple days ago
>"""Classic Method"""
>The majority of the paintjob uses the "totally not contrast prototypes!" Nighthaunt Technical paints and washes instead of actually painting it all properly

>> No.70859123

>>70859088
okay cool

i figure its not too much a stretch to have them worship him as a sea-god given how he's a celestial god and it's celestial bodies that cause tides and are used to navigate etc.

>> No.70859127

>>70858501
Is that the chick with the busted bong teeth?

>> No.70859129
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>>70859074
but anon... if this is like HH then well get rules for the old world models for aos. which means...

>We can play old world armies with aos rules.

>> No.70859130

>>70859077
I thought we were due this week. Or has it been a REALLY long week since the last one?

>> No.70859139

>>70858958
Imagine being the guy who burned his dark elves army.

>> No.70859145

>>70859121
Post pics now I'm curious

>> No.70859146

>>70859109
WFB did have genuine high fantasy stuff (look at the elves, or araby or cathay or the northern wastes)

it also had a lot of grubby !not earth stuff

it's a matter of fccus

>> No.70859147

>>70859130
Last one was the 27th, next on the 10th.

>> No.70859150

>>70859006
because this is the only general that can discuss it without devoling into unbearable shitpost.
Also AoS is on the same timeline as OW so...

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>>70858501
>even GW has started saying tick tock
*angry zoomerposting*

>> No.70859171

>>70859147
Fuck me, it’s been a long week.

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>>70858501

>oh god ho fuck why

First rule of business, build scarcity and then sell it again.

>mfw WHFBfags are cucked by AoSchads that now own the world of WHFB as their prequel

>> No.70859190

>>70859152
>ageist

nigger a boomer wouldn't even know that word

>> No.70859194

>>70859171
It has been indeed...

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>>70859145
I did kind of exaggerate, but the non-details were done in that way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdSg07dqkmY

>> No.70859202

>>70858501
Oh no...women are involved...it will turn out shit.

>> No.70859228
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>>70859121
>old tutorials were comfy duncan painting a model or detail properly, explaining it to newbies while also including techniques and the final paintjob being something more intermediate painters could achieve and learn from.
>new tutorials are peachy or not-duncan slapping contrast and wash paints over the model and getting ugly results, aimed at complete beginners with no other techniques in the videos to further the newbies' painting skills

>> No.70859229

Are sisters of the thorn any good?

I like the idea of a unit of mounted wizards

>> No.70859232

>>70859152
I don't think I have to tell you that it is shopped

>> No.70859234
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>>70859202
I hope you are looking forward to Empire Men at Arms and spearmen being half women

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>>70858501
>>70859152

No they don't OP added it in because he is a faggot.

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70859255

Thougths on my list?


Allegiance: Soulblight
Mortal Realm: Ulgu
Vampire Lord on Zombie Dragon (440)
- Deathlance & Shield & Chalice
- Artefact: The Scabbing Plate
- Lore of the Vampires: Soulpike
Neferata Mortarch of Blood (340)
- Lore of the Vampires: Vile Transference
Coven Throne (260)
- General
- Trait: Transfix
- Lore of the Vampires: Amaranthine Orb
Bloodseeker Palanquin (300)
3 x Vargheists (150)
3 x Vargheists (150)
5 x Blood Knights (200)
Court of Nulahmia (150)

Total: 1990 / 2000
Extra Command Points: 1
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 88

>> No.70859258

>>70859234
Can't wait. My Cuties of Sigmar need more models.

>> No.70859265

Do you make hobby notes? e.g. Do you keep a list of conversion ideas or painting guides or something similar?

>> No.70859271

>>70858530
YASSSS I'm GLAD that the Olde Worlde is finally being controlled by WOMYN its ABOUT TIME!!
YASSSSS QQQQUUUEEEEENNNNN SSSSLLLLLAAAAYYYY

>> No.70859277

>>70859258
Waifu fags really DO ruin everything

>> No.70859284

>>70858530

>To learn more about how the map was created, we spoke to Forge World artist
>Forge World

I've got some bad news for you anon....

>> No.70859288

>>70858725
Wierd. She totally sucked my cock in a bathroom before as well

>> No.70859304

>>70859234
*African women

>> No.70859305

>>70859228
I mean, they already did like 500 videos on that. They haven't disappeared.

>> No.70859310

So is it a continuation of the timeline, a full on reboot, or are they choosing to start it somewhere in the old timelines past?

Either way my empire army is still going to be the Averland scheme.

>> No.70859332

>>70859310
More like 4everland

>> No.70859350

>>70859123
Yeah he's literally turned into a massive fucking cloud at one point so there's precedence for that. Sigmar is also associated with cleansing rains

>> No.70859370

>>70859271
cool strawman

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>women
>niggers
>grogs
>potatoes
>tick tock
>stormies
>based
>redpilled
>yikes
I'M CLOOSE I'M GOOOONA, I'VE GOOOOTA, OH NO, OH GOD, A BIT MORE, I'VE GOT TO REPOST, I'M GOING TO, AH, OH, I'M GONNA, HERE IT COMES, I'M GONNA REPOOOOOOOOOOOOOOST

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>>70859310
Age of three Emperors

>> No.70859402

>>70859382
Unironically based it's all so fucking tiresome imagine needing (You)'s that bad

>> No.70859420

>>70859228
They have to shill this contrast crap somehow.

>> No.70859421

>>70859385
That's what I was thinking because of the name Magritta. I guess they're choosing to flesh out that period further.

>> No.70859426

>>70859385
which Emperor was this following, Magnus the Pious was it? The Empire had easily the weakest lore in the setting, none of it was memorable.

>> No.70859429

any tips for a tzeentch player? I just bought the tzeentch half of aether war. I was thinking of magnetizing the chest so that I can make my tzangors both enlightened and skyfires. really want to run kairos fateweaver and the thaumaturge for sure.

>> No.70859436

>>70859255
>allegiance: soulblight
Don't do this to yourself.

>> No.70859441

>>70859420
it's pretty strange how contrast is the ideal paint for any model that isn't covered in large flat surfaces when GW's mainline models are made of large flat surfaces

>> No.70859450
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>WHFB but a rules adaptation to allow everything released since AoS dropped to be used as well

>> No.70859463

>>70858700
she got hired directly as a sculpter and painter for FW. She made the goblin Bloodbowl teams, and special weapons.

>> No.70859471

Ironjawz players keep complaining that they don't have enough models, but I've never seen them come up with an interesting idea for new models, it's either ultra-boring dogshit like "brutes, but with spears" or absurdity like Ironjawz archers.

>> No.70859484

>>70859382
posts like this encourage it

they want you to get mad and respond

I sometimes tick tock post when I'm bored but I have less incentive if I don't get replies

>> No.70859486

>>70858767
>Imagine seeing Peachy behind the counter.
That would boost sales for sure

>> No.70859492

>>70859471
>it's either ultra-boring dogshit like "brutes, but with spears" or absurdity like Ironjawz archers.
kek true

>> No.70859504

>>70858900
> time to leave til next week

seeya tomorrow. tick tock.

>> No.70859510

>>70858780
As always, buy base decorations from Idoneth players and knock yourself out.

>> No.70859515

>>70859271
>drawing a map
>controlled
AoS shitters really are retarded

>> No.70859523

We have no Deepkin player at our LGS and i thought i might try them out? Mostly playing 1000-1250 points, how do they fare. Any tips for playstyle? Eels or Thralls or both?

>> No.70859527
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I just bought SC! Slaves to Darkness.
Just thought you guys should know.

>> No.70859533

I cant wait for OW to come out and have it be a disappointing pile of nothing. Only thing I'm hoping for is conversion fodder for some of the armies that are harder to convert

>> No.70859542
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My dudes all done, gonna get to painting my lord of plagues tomorrow before the next 5

What are you working on /aosg/?

>> No.70859549

>>70859527
Nice.

>> No.70859551

>>70859426
He was the one that came after the vampire counts fucked everything three idiots tried to kill each other for it before that

>> No.70859560

>>70859533
What if it's good, anon?

>> No.70859563

>>70859310
It's prequel for AoS.
End times is still canon, Archaon destroys the World, GW smelled Total War Warhammer $$$ abd decided to make WHF prequel for AoS in smae style as 30k is for 40k.

>> No.70859581

>>70859527
Cool, Ben.

>> No.70859626

>>70859551
recall some woman being a claimant at one point too

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I finished a Batsquig today. mI accidently notched its wing and tooth when first cutting it from the sprue, but whatever.

I feel like they should have remade the Night Goblin Doom Diver with batsquig riding goblins.

>> No.70859660

>>70859629
very nice
gitz are very based faction

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>>70859542
Working on my nighthaunt, still need to decide what the base will look like

>> No.70859673

>>70859426
Eh, I liked the whole stuff about the battle of Kislev, how Magnus became Emperor and Asavar Khul. But my favorite parts of the lore were Bretonnia, WoC and Dwarfs.

>> No.70859688

>>70859671
Like the bloody red, any theme you've got in mind for your procession?

>> No.70859698

>>70859671
>no heads
patrician taste

>> No.70859751

Thank god for the autistic
they scare away women from ever playing

>> No.70859788

>>70859688

Rough idea is a feudal kindgom where a mage sold their souls to service in nagash in return for fighting off chaos hordes and as punishment to the king and queen who left the country to rot under chaos . Gonna be things like Chainrasps being serfs (slaves before death and after) and Bladegheists being knights forever reliving their deaths.

>> No.70859804

>>70859788
that's literally the regular Olyander nighthaunt lore

>> No.70859810

>>70859698
It's such a better look, it's a shame bladegheists have a more shallow hood so headless doesn't look as good as grimghast

>> No.70859817

>>70859471

>Its the players jobs to come up with new models.

k

>> No.70859843

>>70859471
a waagh powered steam drill
Manicore riding light calv

>> No.70859860

>>70859843
>manticore
>light cavalry
Do you even know the meaning of the words you use?

>> No.70859887

>>70859673
I'd say the most well written factions in fantasy were VC, Skaven and Dwarfs. Empire is mostly let down by the characters who are mostly very bland and never really feel like they belong to a nuanced culture. You read some dialogue with dwarfs or skaven and every sentence is characterful and storied.

>> No.70859892

>>70858700
they're different people. do they all look the same to you now?

>> No.70859922

>>70859860
light is relative when a fucking orc brute is riding
also I wouldn't expect it to be heavily armored and more of chaff

>> No.70859933

>>70859788
Cool idea anon, want them to be appearing around ruins maybe? Been interested in greenstuffing some bases myself

>> No.70859937

>>70859922
That's still not light cavalty by any means. Manticores are fucking huge 12 wound models.

>> No.70859939

The screaming and falling rocks meme has gotten me
Is skink airforce possible?

>> No.70859940

>>70859804
I guess similar in chaos invades and the monarch doesn't care, though I was thinking more with having the mage sell out all their souls in a great ritual that killed all the citizens , raised them as nighthaunt to repel the invaders. Also the ritual chained all the nighthaunt to him, meaning that the monarchy were just as enslaved as a serfs.

>> No.70859985

>>70859922
Still heavier than a gore-grunta, so even within the faction they wouldn't be the "light" cavalry option.

>> No.70860001

>>70859933
Ruins would be pretty sweet, was also thinking pools of blood to go with the whole blood colour design

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anyone know where I could get this kino?
not even the chinamen seem to have them

>> No.70860034

>>70860007
rat ogre, hooves, cockatrice or gryphon claws for hands some random mutated deer head. done

>> No.70860044

>>70860007
>potatoshit
fuck off

>> No.70860147

>>70854772
That's what you have your ally budget for.

>> No.70860151

>>70860007
Been sold out for years. Your best bet is a recaster.

>> No.70860172
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>chaos lords have manticore mounts
>kit can build manticores without riders
>there's no warscroll for manticores
>StD can't take chimeras
>StD lore says they sometimes ride fuckhueg warhounds as if they were horses and some novels mention chariots pulled by those warhounds
>can't even take regular warhounds
>StD have a legion focused around monsters
>the only monsters they kept from WoC were the slaugherbrute and the mutalith
>chaos lord with flail is literally the warrior from the chariot with the extra parts the kits come with
>yet there's no warscroll for a lord on chariot
>warshrine comes with an extra helmet to make a lord
>no warscroll for a lord on warshrine
>no prayers
>no spell lores based on the mark
>no undivided daemon princes mean you effectively can't run an undivided despoilers army, yet the example warband since the GA book has always been an undivided prince with his undivided retinue
>no summoning outside of the gaunt summoner or a lucky eye of the gods table
>no forsaken
>no chaos trolls or ogres despite being mentioned multiple times in the lore
>the tome basically has no colourscheme examples or names of specific warbands or tribes for inspiration
>all model pics are the same ETB kits repeated over and over
>shoehorned warcry bands that don't really have much to do with the army
>just 2 new artpieces
>the map may aswell not be there, we've seen the great parch a million times and it says nothing new, a map of the Eightpoints and the surroundings of the remaining Allgates would have been much better
I gotta say, while it's nice that the army is playable, I expected so much more after waiting 5 years and seeing how they handled Gloomspite Gits.

>> No.70860236

>>70860172
yeah it's gay that we don't have many monsters, but we can at least ally them in. An allied chimera, dragon ogres or jabberslythe would look pretty cool in a StD army

>> No.70860258

>Going to my first tournament this weekend
>Get a fever today
R I P

>> No.70860265

>>70860172
Why would you want prayers when your only Priest has five prayers on the warscroll already?

>> No.70860268

>>70860236
You can ally them, yes, but they don't get the despoilers keyword.

>> No.70860274

>>70859123
He's a literal storm god, why not worship him to keep your ships from sinking in storms and not have tsunamis rape your coastal towns?

>> No.70860276

>>70860007
Yeah, not everything is recasted. This isn't new. Get an invite, ask for one. It's really dependent on how accessible a master model is. In this case... Yikes

>> No.70860279

>>70858794
So Mantic, Firelock and GW roughlyl agree on what 28mm means, and Corvus Belli thinks 32mm is 28mm.

Corvus Belli scale is off for 32mm - too small.

Gotcha.

Whatever that is supposed to do with this thread. Who knows.

>> No.70860303

>>70860265
The idea would be to get 3 pell lores fot tzeentch, slaanesh and nurgle and 1 3 prayer list for khorne. Exalted heroes would have been great to be priests if given the mark of khorne, for example.

>> No.70860319

>>70860279
The retard thought 1:72 scale is 25mm.

>> No.70860331

>>70859015
At least I have one, mr "gimme bigger brutes"

>> No.70860341

>>70860172
I like to see chaos more as having room to grow.

You can pretty clearly see in your own greentext what is slowly going to be squatted.

the best guess is that StD is probably going to become the mortal bread and it will fall on the player to use the butter of their choice in the form of their choice of chaos factions.

I think marauders are on their way out, and the warbands were meant as a working concept for what the designers thought modernized marauders from the different realms would look like.

>> No.70860352

>>70859255
>88 wounds
My ironjawz would wipe you off the board by turn 2.

>> No.70860356

>>70858673
Orruk Warclans has some of the best internal balance in the game. You're fucking delusional. I see you in every fucking thread chirping about IJ and Brutes. I think you're just blinded with rage by the fact that brutes are less cost effective than ardboyz, despite brutes being fine and still showing up in recent competitive lists. Shut up and git gud

>> No.70860360

>>70860341
>You can pretty clearly see in your own greentext what is slowly going to be squatted.
>the best guess is that StD is probably going to become the mortal bread and it will fall on the player to use the butter of their choice in the form of their choice of chaos factions.
>I think marauders are on their way out, and the warbands were meant as a working concept for what the designers thought modernized marauders from the different realms would look like.
I don't even know how you can get that, anon.

>> No.70860373

>>70860356
>Orruk Warclans
I don't think that was his point...

>> No.70860380

>>70859088
>twelve being the rune blades he gifted to the mortal tribes
?

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>read vampire slayer
>fall in love with the idea of peasantry under vampire fiefdoms
Would there be any reason to spend points on zombie warriors in a soulblight list, though?

>> No.70860385

>>70860341
you do know StD tome released in December, right anon? Marauders are the best unit in the book and the warcry bands are trash besides golems

>> No.70860429

What's /asog/'s opinion on making death faction [your dudes] not totally chained in subservience to nagash, I just really don't like him as a character and want to divorce my spooky ghosts as far from him as possible

>> No.70860433

>>70860373
ironjawz is included in orruk warclans bro, not just talking about big waaagh

>> No.70860440

>>70860429
You don't have to mention him. As long as your dudes don't actively oppose him, I don't think it'd be bad.

>> No.70860453

>>70860429
lore breaking but I wouldnt care, lore doesnt matter on the tabletop so do whatever makes you happy in your head

>> No.70860488

>>70859563
Except that this will probably end up being the wow classic of tabletop, where all the people clamouring for it have a very small overlap with the people who woud both actually buy stuff and do more than play gray tide empire or something for a month then quit.

>> No.70860491

>>70860429
Maybe have your ghosts not be from Shyish. Instead, they could be some damned souls from another realm haunting an ancient ruin they once defended or some shit. Would give you an excuse to have a full army of them and you don't have to care about Nagash. Basically a situation where they would be under Nagash if he ever rolled up and found them, but since he probably won't, it really doesn't matter.

>> No.70860497

>>70860440
The problem I have is that since they are nighthaunt from what I remember pretty much all of their unit lore is "and here is how nagash decided to arbitrarily fuck over and enslaved these guys". I can just ignore it I guess but it was a consistent theme

>> No.70860554

>>70858501
You old world fags have fucking ruined AOS. I'm dead serious. I shall explain.

You see, I'm an old player, from the rogue trader days. I have fucking ancient GW models in my collection.
Slanesh greater daemon with bull head. Snotlings. Chaos dreadnaught. 2nd edition orcs. Goblin hero on spider. Wolf riders
with thin bodies.

Take off your sentimental glasses. Honestly, they are all shit. Quaint, charming? Fuck off. All the old models are horrible.
Anything carved by hand can go in the wastebin with very very few exceptions. The entire empire range? Trash. Old skellies? Trash.
Old orcs. Wastebin.

When AOS started, they wanted a fresh start. Cut off all that trash and throw it out. Stormcasts and new Chaos. The idea was
they gave you some points costs for the old models to stop your bitching, sell off the old stock and eventually cut out the rotting core of shit models from
the game. Everything new! New processes, new factions, newly copyrighted, new new new. And they have been glorious. (not a fan of
Stormcast esthetic, but whatever). Ioneth? Glorious. Fireslayers? Glorious. Kharadron? Glorious. Orruks? Glory.

But you Old World jerks wont have it, you had to keep pushing. Bring back the old! Fantasy was GReAt you'd say. And GW saw the green
glow of money. Hey, why make new models when these suckers will just keep buying this old trash? Thanks for bringing back
Empire, an old faction full of shitty fucking models. Mortal realms kiss my ass. Thanks for making Seraphon a nicely selling faction with fucking derpy retard models
from hell. Splayed derp clawed, playmobile limb joins, mother sons of dogs.

Fight me! Old world is shit!

>> No.70860566

>>70860356
Why do you think brutes are equal/better? Ardboyz just work better with ij synergies imo and brutes unfortunately don't.
>+1 attack
With fewer models/weapons
>+1 damage
With fewer attacks
>+1 to cast when wholly within a unit of 10+ orrucks
Likely but clearly designed for ardboys.

Brutes lost the megaboss synergy and special weapon rules, which kinda killed their relevance beyond big units and 2" reach. Yeah, more wounds and attacks per models mean more consistent damage in some circumstances, but... Eh. They're probably only in lists as an ironfist requirement or flavour

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>>70860172
New dudes look good though.

>> No.70860591

>>70860554
Don’t worry, old world will last a month before the lustre wears off. At best gw will get a bunch of tw fags to buy grey tide empire armies to play against one another. At worst the product will be DOA and they’ll sweep it under the rug

>> No.70860596

>>70860568
>left: fantasy map (albeit a shitty one)
>Right: not!europe

>> No.70860619

>>70860591
I will only care if we get another Sigvald or Malus darkblade model.

>> No.70860621

>>70860172
>kit can build manticores without riders
>there's no warscroll for manticores
Gorebeast too. I don't get why they don't have a warscroll.

>> No.70860644

>>70860621
He has some parts of the mounting in him.

>> No.70860659

>>70860644
Nevermind then.

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>chaos daemon and mortal followers supplement
>no skaven battalion or allegiance

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accurate

>> No.70860678

>>70860619
Sigvald is gonna get an AoS model at some point.

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>>70860619
Granted. They are resin and twice the price of the old sculpts.

>> No.70860697

>>70860675
How can the less new thing be the New Coke?

>> No.70860753

>>70860685
Your prediction sucks, GW doesn't do resin anymore. And you know I mean new models so don't bother pointing out the existing resin ones. You're probably right about the price though.

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>>70860664
>Slaanesh Host known to be based on Chariots
>Not a single ability for Chariots

>> No.70860775

>>70860753
True, GW doesn't do resin anymore. FW does though.

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>>70860775
Don't you fucking dare.

>> No.70860802

>>70860596
>>Right: not!europe
>implying that's a bad thing
As a complete lorelet who's primarily into AoS for painting, I find the ability to intuitively deduce the relationships between different factions based on concrete (albeit derivative) geography to be a boon. Hell, even though I didn't come into the hobby until AoS was already out for a few years, OW intuitively makes more sense precisely because it's not!europe.

>> No.70860832

>>70859228
I bet you the found out having grey pile is lowering sales, so anything that gets the newbs models painted up fast will be pushed. Which makes sense, if you know how to fucking paint you don't need baby's first video tutorials.

>> No.70860846

>>70860596
>not!europe
I'll remind you that Middle Earth is also not!Europe but is regarded as one of the best fantasy settings ever made.

>> No.70860858

>>70860497
Technically speaking, he only makes the knights personally. The rest are just random curses. Nighthaunts can be made naturally too.

>> No.70860895

>>70860585
Don't get me wrong, I love the sculpts, but it's a really shitty situation were they only made ETB kits and because they don'w want to show the old ones, that's all the show.

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>>70858501
>WHFB with new models
>new Felix Jaeger
>another new Gotrek Model
>new Sigvald
>Slaanesh models done by FW

God, I can't wait.

>> No.70860942

>>70860801
It makes sense. FW does advanced kits for experience modellers with big hobby budgets, so Old World is a perfect fit.

>> No.70860967

>>70860846
Middle Earth at least isn't actually re-drawn map of Europe done with "sure you can copy my homework, just change it up a little" attitude. Rohirrim might be based on the saxons and normans, but at least they aren't called Saexones

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>>70860942
>he actually believes what he says

>> No.70860979

>>70860566
I never said Brutes were better, if you could read you'd know that I conceded that 'Ardboyz are more cost-efficient, which doesn't mean Brutes are bad or unusable. Even still let's look at the math. For 270 or 280 points you get 15 Ardboyz and 10 Brutes respectively.

Same move, wounds, saves, and bravery. 'Ardboyz do come out ahead because there are synergies in the battletome that rewards higher model count, they are better objective holders, and their standards and drummer give them some benefits that Brutes don't get.

Offensively they're roughly the same, with Brutes coming out a little further ahead.

With no modifiers, against a defending unit with 4+ saves, 15 Ardboyz will do around 5 wounds.

With the same paramaters, a unit of 10 Brutes equipped with Pair of Brute Choppas and 2 Gore-Choppas (which is the standard loadout most people take), Brutes will do 11 wounds. This is before Duff Up da Big Thing.

Brutes come out ahead offensively, but proportionally they lose more of their offensive power with each model they lose. Assuming you lose a couple models in each unit on the approach due to shooting and spells, Brutes will eke out a little farther ahead in practice still but not as much as it shows on paper.

So as you can see: you're fucking wrong. Ardboyz ARE more cost efficient, like I originally said, but that doesn't mean Brutes are even close to just a worse option. You see both all the time, as well as Gore-Gruntas, Maw-Krushas, Warchanters, Weirdnob Shaman, Gordrakk... WOW it's like this allegiance has some really good internal balance!

>b-but they still only have Ironfist as their only good batallion
You can see Gorefist in Pigheavy skew lists, but so what? literally every battle tome is filled with completely worthless battalions and everyone just takes the same one so that they can score their second artefact.

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How are flagellants now that everything but for devoted was squatted for CoS. Warpriest as FG general is fair, but then flagellants have no synergies?

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>>70860675

kek

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>>70860967
Anon, I...

>> No.70861032

>>70860978
Yes, fully. I believe they'll treat TOW exactly the same as Blood Bowl. Base kits are GW plastic, everything more exotic is FW resin.

>> No.70861060

>>70861013
You're right, but Arda is at least way less obvious than the Old World. The Old World map is almost 1:1 with our own world from a distance, and to top it off the cultures in the Old World have obvious parallels with our own, to the point of parody.

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>>70861011
Come now, you can at least use the new and old versions of Nagash

>> No.70861076

>>70861032
Currently all signs point to it being forge world. Though I do agree that the core stuff will be gw plastic. Specifically the same gw plastic as always

>> No.70861093

>>70861075
Haha, yah, I realized as I posted it.... much better anon.

>> No.70861125

>>70861075
Because the new nagash is NOT AoS. Although I'd use Wavechad or Katakros as the AoS representative for maximum impact.

>> No.70861154

Pretty cool how we have literally the same arguments every thread forever

>> No.70861162
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If I was to take the classic Arkhan on flying Chariot, and model it flying through the air at the appropriate height with the right base, would you allow it as the new Arkhan?

>> No.70861205

>>70861162
Yes, I'll always allow a collector's mini.

>> No.70861214

>>70861075
New Nagash is from End Times, not AoS

>> No.70861219

>>70861162
If it were up to me, you wouldn't even need to concert the model at all. Just use the new base.

>> No.70861223

>>70861162
if you took classic arkhan, put him and his ponies on the proper base I wouldn't give a fuck. He doesn't need to be flying

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Excuse my brainletism but if I take chaos warriors for my nurgle army how do I get the aura, is it only if you have an STD hero as general?

>> No.70861245

>>70861032
if it's handled like 30k prepare to be pissed, but hopefully it'll be more in keeping with necro, BB and AT.

>> No.70861266

>>70861239
you don't get the aura, that's a StD allegiance ability. It's not in your Nurgle allegiance

>> No.70861277

>>70861239
All STD heros get the aura if they can choose the mark, they only get the 2nd part of the mark if they have the aura and are a general.

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soon

>> No.70861289

>>70861239
What are you asking here.
If an ability is on a warscroll, and it effects a KEYWORD, it doesnt matter if you are NURGLE or SLAVES TO DARKNESS as you army alliagence- it only matters what KEYWORD is on the warscroll of the unit using the ability, and if it effects another unit, whether THAT unit also has the appropriate KEYWORD

>> No.70861295

>>70861284
Not soon enough. The dripfeed of into every two weeks is killing me.

>> No.70861304

>>70861076
Doesn't Forge World run all of GW's 'specialist' games these days, even the ones still getting plastic releases?

>> No.70861307

>>70861295
yeah, that was pretty stupid

>> No.70861313

>>70861284
Sadly their ears won't be as long nor they will live in forests. If they absorb shadow warriors, at least we'll keep leather clad skirmish archers.

>> No.70861318
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>>70861205
>>70861219
>>70861223

Ah cool. Flying was gonna be a bit of a stretch, haven't dealt with that much flying lead since I helped my dad assemble his Thunderhawk.

I've also wound up with a necromancer on Manticore and there doesn't appear to be an analog for it in modern aos, what with manticores turning to chaos rather than death. Any ideas on things to convert this to represent?

I also have derpy old nagash and Heinrich Kemmler to deal with

>> No.70861319
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>>70861214

death of the old world celebration model

>> No.70861320

>>70861214
EVERY model released for End Times was literally planned for use in AoS.
Ask the fucking designers.
Ask why everything was suddenly out of scale for the rules.
Thinking anything otherwise is literally head in the sand retard thinking...but since you seem like a fantacuck I guess I'm not surprised

>> No.70861339

>>70861318
counts as vampire lord on steed?

>> No.70861351

>>70861320
If that were true, the dwarf, wood elf and dark elf releases would also have been for AoS since they were released just before the End Times started and look at what has happened to those factions.

>> No.70861355

>>70861304
I think underworlds isn’t run by them
Ironic too, since that’s the best specialist game

>> No.70861364

>>70861319

This is gonna be hilarious if WH The Old World is just forgeworld resin of the old sculpts.

>> No.70861368

>>70861318
For some reason I like the old monster mounts being that small and going in bases of that size. The current big ass oval bases are far too damn big.

>> No.70861372
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>>70861284
I WANT TO PIN HER TO THE FLOOR

>> No.70861376

>Soulblight
>Deadwalkers
>Nagash mortals (Death mages)

You can pick one of this for new Death army (will be made in the same NH/OBR style) which one you choose?

>> No.70861382

>>70860497
Nighthaunt can occur naturally and Nagash can create them accidentally, the latter of which is what happened after the necroquake. Lady Olynder was made a Mortarch basically to get all the rogue Nighthaunt under control. Your dudes could just be a group that have managed to slip under the radar.

>> No.70861384

>>70861304
Neither Kill Team, Underworlds nor Warcry are run by FW. You can tell because FW doesn't translate their rules and all three of those have their rules translated.

>> No.70861400
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I hope they do get absorbed by Lumineth. Change their colour scheme and nothing in their sculpts clashes with the new designs. They even have big gems on their belts that could represent aetherquartz stones.

>> No.70861417

>>70861162

good lord, can some people really not see how bloody awful those old models are?

>> No.70861418
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>>70861368
Agreed. A monster doesn't need to be the size of a bus to be able to rip men limb from limb.

>> No.70861427

>>70861400
Both those and Phoenix models will be added into Lumineth. Is the only thing that makes sense and the aesthetic fit in all cases, specially with Phoenix Guard

>> No.70861451

>>70861295
I hope they show new models next week...
Hell on their fucking community home page, the LRL STILL has the most thumbs up

>> No.70861464

>>70861368
depends on the model. I recently got a jabberslythe and the rectangle base included couldn't even fit the fucking model on it. I think that manticore base could be a little larger too. It leaves no room for decoration

>> No.70861476

>>70861417
You're supposed to pretend you're nostalgic for back when these models were made. Then you're supposed to type essays full of buzzwords as to why they are artistically superior to what's currently being made.
>inb4 seethe
>inb4 tick tock

>> No.70861482

On the subject of Lumineth, when people bring up the mountain, river, wind, and sky stuff being close to fire, water, air, earth. I think sky has more to do with stars and shit rather than clouds/rain which would fit better than if they had done fire, earth, air, water.

>> No.70861484

>Can't enjoy one thing without hating the other, don't actually play either game.

You fags sound like the type that engage in console wars.

>> No.70861514

>>70861482
anything but light right?

>> No.70861535

>>70861351
Those reflect projects already in the works before Kirby ordered the shift to AoS, starting with End Times. It's not like they stopped all work while considering whether or not to kill WHFB, the normal design process was still ongoing. It's just as soon as the call was made, all effort went to the new AoS project, which included them introducing the new 'knight' sized monster/hero units that really got played into in End Times (Nagash, Glotkin, Mortarchs, Bloodthirster... maybe the new Empire General on griffon? Cant remember) as well as newer, bigger infantry (those Khorne guys and blightkings... everyone hated them because they had huge bases yet werent monstrous infantry and wondered what the fuck was up... well they were designed for AoS)

>> No.70861537
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70861537

>>70861484
>tfw 40k, AoS, WHFRP painting, lore enjoying and playing master race
Feels good to be an idort.

>> No.70861538

>>70861427
They will absolutely not. Name one unit that's in two separate battletomes at once. If they weren't incorporated into CoS, they'd have a chance, like witch elves did. Now they're locked in, there's no way.

>> No.70861541

>>70861482
Agreed, "zenith" does make me think more of the sun at the peak of the sky than of wind and stuff.

>> No.70861560

>>70861482
More like it's stupid they just didnt do Earth, Water, Wind/Air, and Fire... or literally just steal a page straight from Ayleids in TOS and say Earth, Water, Air, and Light (fire was a corruption of pure light, like starlight, to them)

>> No.70861569

>>70861384
>bitching about translations

>> No.70861570

>>70861538
morghast

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>>70861484

agreed

>> No.70861580

>>70861538
>chaos spawns
>every tzaangor unit
>every StD unit that can take a mark
>all dwarfs can be in KO
>stormcasts in CoS

>> No.70861594

>>70861451
Supposedly next weeks article is gonna talk about the spearmen, so I don't think they'll show any new models.
>>70861569
>>70861580
Nagash and Arkhan too, while we are at it.

>> No.70861595

>>70861538
Not that guy but CoS is not a real faction, literally a plaster to give people decent rules to use their models with to stop them being even more alienated. It wouldn't surprise me to see the Lumineth annexing their high elf brothers

>> No.70861615

>>70861417
I have an old Arkhan and time. I would happily buy the new Arkhan if I didn't have a perfectly good goofy chariot boy here.

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>>70861538
Anon here take it. You won this.

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>>70858501
Yeah cant wait for 3 Emperors time period like that map implies so that Empire can completely lack gunpowder.

>> No.70861650

>>70861595
>T. got dumped on by Hallowchads

>> No.70861653

>>70860664
I just want a kind of Beastfolk allegiance that combines BoC and Skaven.

>> No.70861664

>>70860258
Swap to a nurgle list anon

>> No.70861668

>>70861569
I'm complaining about the lack of translations, anon.

>> No.70861671

>>70861650
I play Hallowheart lad. It's still not a real faction, just the Firestorm minor factions crowbarred into a broader scope for factionless models. You know I speak the truth

>> No.70861676
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70861676

>>70861615

I don't want to be the bad guy anon, but these old world fags asked for it.

Check out this model, is utter shit. If I could paint like this, it wouldn't matter what the model looked like.

I'm just saying, call it what it is and we shouldn't let GW try to sell trash like that for full price no more.

>> No.70861678

>>70861664
It's what I play in 40k so it's fitting.

>> No.70861686

>>70859097
rules for rank and file, combat resolution in AoS

ability to use old world armies against AoS armies

etc

>> No.70861694

>>70859234
>Empire Men at Arms
Get out, tourist

>> No.70861696

>>70861649
But anon, gunpowder existed in the time of three emperors. Are you stupid, or just a lorelet?

>> No.70861703

>>70861668
>speaking a language other than English
holy cucked

>> No.70861709

>>70861580
They're all options that you need a 2nd book to use, not incorporated into the battletome or faction.

>> No.70861711

>>70859426
>which Emperor was this following, Magnus the Pious was it?
Magnus heralded the end of this period with the great war against chaos.
>none of it was memorable.
Because it doesn't really exist, its just foot notes.

>> No.70861723

>>70861595
I'm sorry, it's got a battletome, it's real. And they sure as fuck won't incorporate unit from Aqshy (Phoenix guard) into Hyshian army

>> No.70861724

>>70861649
No college of magic either, so no human non-chaos wizards

>>70861696
Depends which part, the era lasted hundreds of years. We know magnus had cannons.

>> No.70861735

>>70861709
Mate read the BoC, don't be such a brainlet.

>> No.70861756

>>70861723
Phoenix Temple are all over the realms, not just the Phoenicium. They just adopted it. And who gives a fuck anyway, every faction has footholds in multiple realms. The book doesn't make it a real faction. It will never get a second tome because everything comprising it will have been broken apart again

>> No.70861760

>>70861686
I mean, it they bring back square bases and rank and file with AoS's combat phase I'd be delighted.

>> No.70861768

>>70861724
Are you even slightly aware of Mordheim? Hochland Long Rifles existed in 2000 IC. Non-college wizards existed, they were just less powerful because they weren't focused on a single wind of magic.

Read Mordheim, anon. It's good, gives you a good feel of what the Empire was like then.

>> No.70861780

>>70861756
This. And let's not forget that Lumineth have phoenix icons on them and the same runes as shadow warriors.

>> No.70861790

>>70861768
Mordheim was a literal retcon and only has guns because they wanted to sell the free company box as Mordheims flagship product

>> No.70861810

>>70861768
Mordheim is a timeless cursed city, you can get adventurers of all eras lost in it.

>> No.70861823

>>70861810
Then how is it that people from Reikland walked their asses over to Ostermark, guns in tow?

>> No.70861827
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70861827

I just picked up Ironskull's boyz for use in my Ironjawz army.

I can integrate them into an ardboy unit for more ardboy model variety right?

>> No.70861836

>>70861760

Maybe movement trays for round bases? For some factions it makes sense, other factions it doesn't. Scaven and orcs in regiments has always been stupid.

>> No.70861843
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70861843

Hi guys, what's the body from?
I'm still researching to get some good conversions for my isharann soulrenders.

>> No.70861862

>>70861836
I doubt it. They announced the game with a square base.
>Scaven and orcs in regiments has always been stupid.
Not really. While it's true that they wouldn't keep neat ranks, they are hordes that would be so packed together that the ranks represent it better than a loose formation.

>> No.70861865

>>70861780
>>70861756
>>70861723
I would prefer it if they were souped, but I think best case scenario is that one of the Lumineth sub-factions has a 1/4 rule for Phoenix Temple.

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>>70861686
>>70861760
>rules for rank and file, combat resolution in AoS
A unit of 10 or more models (Big guys 6 or more) may choose to adopt rank and file formation.
The unit must be arranged into ranks of 5 models with every model in base to base contact with its neighbors or on a movement tray. Then the unit must designate a front to their formation. Units in rank and file formation move as a block and may turn as if they were one model.

In the battleshock phase, if a unit in rank and file formation outnumbers all enemy models in combat with them, they ignore all battleshock penalties due to casualties. This bonus is negated if there are 10 or more enemy models engaging the back row (opposite of the front row) with melee weapons.

Furthermore, if the above bonus is active all enemy units engaged receive a penalty to all battleshock tests equal to the number of ranks in the rank and file unit beyond the first rank (If there are multiple units, choose the biggest).

>> No.70861891

>>70861843
That’s an Akhelian King torso spliced over a Tidecaster torso.

>> No.70861911

>>70861836
I have some round base movement trays from etsy and I honestly dont know how I lived without them, they're great.

>> No.70861916

>>70861868
That honestly sounds good and very easy to implement. Not sure about the severity of the bravery penalties, but that's what playtesting is for.

>> No.70861930

>>70861266
>>70861277
>>70861289
Thanks

>> No.70861939

>>70859074
Delusional. Still showing FW staff, it's gonna be a reduced scale mass battle game.

>> No.70861940

>>70861868

Is this real or did you make this up? It really just means everyone will rank up for the advantage.

No point to not being ranked.

>> No.70861947

>>70861891
thanks wise anon

>> No.70861949

>Elfs can have 5 different books
>Skaven can only have one book

Justify this.

>> No.70861953

>>70861827
Depends how autistic your opponent is, personally I probably wouldn't even realise they weren't just normal Ironjawz at a glance.

>> No.70861966

>>70861947
Anytime. I love the Deepkin but I want to violently flog the asses who designed their kit assemblies with a pillowcase full of padlocks.

>> No.70861967

>>70861916
>That honestly sounds good and very easy to implement.
I tried to keep in in the spirit of AoS' fundamentally simple rules, so no wheeling or reformation rules.

>Not sure about the severity of the bravery penalties, but that's what playtesting is for.
Probably needs tweaking, right now its equal to whatever the combat resolution bonus would have been in whfb.

Also with the prevalence of 40 man units in AoS there probably should be something for 10 man ranks as well.

>>70861940
chad-yes.jpg

No but really it only has a significant advantage for big units with long reach weapons and you give up wrapping around, meaning if you do rank up with 1" reach weapons you give up a lot of attacks to do so.

I would also swing the idea of making only battleline units capable of doing it.

>> No.70861968

>>70861949
Fewer people wank to skaven

>> No.70861991

>>70861949
Nobody likes skavens. Everybody loves elfs.

>> No.70862000

Why is blight of 40k infesting our side now too?
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZP_TblFAwQg

>> No.70862002

>>70861827
Of course, they're completely WYSIWYG too.

>> No.70862007

>>70861949
>books
rules are temporary, look at models. That's even bigger travesty.

>> No.70862008

>>70861949
A core part of Skaven civilisation is tyranny and oppression, forcing them all together. Elves break apart as they become varied, Skaven don't. They'll only ever need one book

>> No.70862036

>>70862000
Because the 40kucks have such an irrational hatred of AoS that they're now pretending that they've totes always loved WHFB I swear!

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>>70858501

I really hope Seraphon don't get screwed with their new battletome.

>> No.70862072

>>70861239
You need to be using the StD allegiance to get the auras.

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>>70862050
You get new saurus, they look like the awesome dinosaur men from TW2 but they're resin and $75 per 10.

>> No.70862101

>>70861418
That’s a bad photoshop.

>> No.70862113

>>70861484
LARPERS love this place.

>> No.70862118

>>70861967
>Probably needs tweaking, right now its equal to whatever the combat resolution bonus would have been in whfb.
Now that you mention it, units get a +1 to bravery per every 10 models in the unit, so I guess it can work, but yeah, it'd need to be tested to know for sure.
>Also with the prevalence of 40 man units in AoS there probably should be something for 10 man ranks as well.
Maybe an extra rank of attacks? Could be rulled as weapons in the unit getting +1" to their ranges to a maximum of 3" to counter for the models that can't attack because they'd be breaking formation.

>> No.70862135

can someone explain to me what the fuck is going on with Warhammer Underworlds

I bought into Nightvault on a whim with a friend, after that superceded the first release within like a year, and now it's already onto its third release. Obviously the warbands are carried over, but what is the point of getting into a game where the majority of core stuff like rules, board, cards etc. become worthless every year?

>> No.70862169

>>70861940
Well, yes, that's the point, isn't it?

>> No.70862185

>>70862089

When the absolute worst 3rd party model is still better than the GW model... anon, I just cannot buy a razordon. Its so bad, I think this book will be the last for seraphon before they get squatted

>> No.70862190

>>70862135
But it doesn't become worthless? You can still use all the cards and boards and the rules are still the same, each season just expands them.

>> No.70862191

>>70861949
Skaven have always been one book, elves have always been multiple books.

>> No.70862192

>>70862135
>where the majority of core stuff like rules, board, cards etc. become worthless every year?
Huh? They dont. Some cards from the 1st season are now out of rotation for official GW tournaments but they're not illegal by any means. The rules and boards are still legal too.

>> No.70862228

>>70862000
I still don't understand how he's so popular. He's just so incredibly boring to listen to, but apparently this isn't a downside on youtube.

>> No.70862235

>>70862118
>Now that you mention it, units get a +1 to bravery per every 10 models in the unit, so I guess it can work, but yeah, it'd need to be tested to know for sure.
Yeah exactly, its just the opposite effect and is canceled out by a nearly equal sized enemy unit.
>Could be rulled as weapons in the unit getting +1" to their ranges to a maximum of 3" to counter for the models that can't attack because they'd be breaking formation.
Not a bad idea, allows a full unit of spears to attack forward which is pretty sweet.

>> No.70862241

>>70862190
It’s a shitpost.

>> No.70862245

>>70862135
>where the majority of core stuff like rules, board, cards etc. become worthless every year?
It's close to an LCG, so the more up to date and faithful you are with the game, the more you're rewarded. That being said I can tell that you didn't do any of your research, because you would have known this if you did when you bought into Nightvault.

Also, they're not worthless. Nightvault warbands, boards, and warband specific cards are all still perfectly usable. This is actually a great time to get into the game, as Beastgrave has a much lower startup cost for competitive play than Nightvault did, again, another sign that you didn't do your research and completely got what you deserved.

>> No.70862269

>>70862235
I'll have to test this since my models are on square bases anyways. Sounds like it'd be fun to play.

>> No.70862290
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May I have your attention, *ahem*, FUCK TW SECONDARIES

>> No.70862297

>>70862228
All he talks about is marines and muh primarch. Can't be more mainstream for brainlets than this.

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70862299

>>70862000
not a new phenomenon really

>> No.70862316

>>70862290
post your models with that
>>70862299
I can still listen to fagrak's voice though, arch is just unbearable

>> No.70862324

>>70862290
dangerously based

>> No.70862326

>>70862190
>>70862192
>>70862245
so I looked into it, and yeah the boards aren't worthless, but I did see that the warbands from the first season are now totally out of print. why is this? this just confirms what I was worried about with this game that you have to constantly buy into the latest releases because old stuff (literally like 2 years old) gets phased out. that kind of short termism really puts me off.

>> No.70862337

>>70862036
>YES I ALWAYS WAS A FAN
>BRETONNIA YAS
>TOMB KANGZ YAS

>> No.70862356

>>70862326
So don't play faggot. You should have done your research before hand but you just wasted your money on a game you're not interested in. It's a great game, and it's fine that it's not for you, but you're not getting any fucking sympathy here.

>> No.70862361

>>70862326
>but I did see that the warbands from the first season are now totally out of print. why is this?

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Wh-worlds-Steelhearts-Champions-2018-eng?_requestid=32713924

They're not, you can buy them right now.

>> No.70862362

>>70862326
https://www.games-workshop.com/es-ES/Wh-worlds-Steelhearts-Champions-2018-eng

Every band is still for sale with their cards.

>> No.70862365

>>70858728
That's okay, anon, an MSNBC host accidentally called the LA Lakers the LA Niggers a week of so ago. I don't think the NBA could do that intentionally.

>> No.70862404

>>70862337
>I LOVED Bretonnia and Tomb Kings they were my BOYS
This is how you can spot grogs a mile away. It's like this absolute 'trump card' WFBgrogs have to show why they hate AoS and want WFB but it's actually their worst argument because as if they would suddenly love AoS if Bretonnia and Tomb Kings were reintroduced into the game in some way.

>> No.70862407

>>70861949
Different factions not one faction and a million sub faction

>> No.70862418

>>70862316
someone in /twg/ said he fakes his accent on youtube, but why the fuck you'd exert effort to sound like that I don't know.

>> No.70862433

>>70862404
More like
>I LOVED EVERYTHING THAT IS NOT HERE NOW

>> No.70862436

>>70862418
Maybe he just plays it up to sound extra bong. I don't know why but some people just assume that Brits know their shit about Warhammer.

>> No.70862448

>>70862433
meanwhile at dark elves and Empire, basically untouched:
>*crickets*

>> No.70862459

>>70862361
>>70862362
I'm looking on the UK store and many of the original warbands are only available as AoS units, like Sepulchral Guard and Ironskull's Boyz and so don't have any cards.

>>70862356
I'm not really concerned about wasting money, it was a cheap game to dip my toe into with my friend, and while we enjoyed it there are better GW games out there that don't threaten to make everything obsolete within 2 years.

>> No.70862487

>>70862436
40k maybe, but fantasy is and was always dead as fuck in the UK, the Gamesday stands were 90% Americas.

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>>70861949
Skaven have never been more than one book. Like >>70862008 said, the Horned Rat forces them to work together. There is no point in having them in separate books. And I'm a ratfag so eat shit.

>> No.70862504

>>70862459
>and while we enjoyed it there are better GW games out there that don't threaten to make everything obsolete within 2 years.
You're a fucking idiot. We already explained how your purchases haven't been made obsolete, and if you're playing casually then what the fuck does it matter? If you're playing competitively, then you're even more fucking stupid because the merry-go-round of what's competitive in GW games is just as unstable if not more so than Underworlds. At least in Underworlds if you want to get up to date with the competitive scene you're looking at spending less than $200, if you want a brand new top tier army to compete in AoS and 40k, well then get ready to spend dosh.

>> No.70862533

>>70862448
>NO NO BRUVVA LADY OF DA LAKE OOH I'M COOMIN

>> No.70862540

>>70862459
>Sepulchral Guard and Ironskull's Boyz and so don't have any cards.
Seems to be just those two for some reason. But they are still playable and completely legal. They are not being made obsolete.

>> No.70862558

>>70862448
We complain about CoS because of them, anon. Also I wish they were completely untouched.

>> No.70862567

>>70862436
Isn't he a Swede or some shit

>> No.70862585

>>70862558
It makes you look like a bunch if whiney children

>> No.70862600

>>70862585
ok shill

>> No.70862604

>>70862050
razordons have always been a mistake

>> No.70862617

>>70862504
let me put it this way, when I play Blood Bowl if I fancy picking up one of the first few releases, I have absolutely zero problem getting hold of both the models and rules for them, and don't have any worries about that becoming an issue down the line.

>> No.70862619

>>70862036
>It's going to sell like HOTCAKES
Yeah those WFB sales were just through the roof. Get real, there's going to be a lot of hype on the initial run, but the reality was that WFB was just a run of the mill fantasy setting that couldn't pull people off of 40k to play it. Eventually the interest will die off again and ultimately Old World will pull more players from games like 9th Age or Runewars than it will AoS.

>> No.70862634

>>70862558
Empire lost two redundant artillery pieces, two characters (one of whom is just an inferior cogsmith), three units and their mounts. They still have more unit variety than most AoS only factions.

>> No.70862640

>>70862617
No one gives a fuck, you mongoloid.

>> No.70862643

>>70862585
Could be worse
Could be dwarfposters

>> No.70862649 [DELETED] 

>>70862619
tick tock :^)

>> No.70862657

>>70862619
>I don't know anything about why fantasy failed and am too new to know how shitty GW was back then

>> No.70862662

>>70862050
Who's doing the book

>> No.70862674

>>70862619
I could see how TW:W could have been the DoW for whfb, in that it would have caused a renaissance of interest and a new big wave of players.

However, Old World is clearly going to be 3 Emperors instead of the Total War era and its going to be Forgeworld resin with some plastic characters like LoTR, which is substantially curb interest.

>> No.70862679

>>70858501
Why are they so eager to show off every little thing about ToW?

>> No.70862686

>>70862640
certain Underworlds players seem to be irrationally defensive, so naturally I can't stop myself from replying to wind them up even more.

>> No.70862687

>>70862662
we don't know

>> No.70862690

>>70862634
>They still have more unit variety than most AoS only factions.
That's not much of an acomplishment.

>> No.70862696

>>70862679
it caused a lot of hype and they want to hold onto it

They did the same thing with SoB and that clearly worked since they sold out

>> No.70862701

>>70862619
>but the reality was that WFB was just a run of the mill fantasy setting that couldn't pull people off of 40k to play it
Not really. The problem wasn't the setting. The problem was the last two editions doubling the number of models you needed to play, doubling the price of eax box and cutting in half the number of models per box.

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>>70858598
Heh.. I still got some time left in the old ticker, kid!

>> No.70862738

>>70862674
>3 Emperors
If forgeworld were being literal about it being the "horus heresy" equivalent and it's just humans vs humans then I'll write a strongly worded letter to GW, so I will.

>> No.70862745

>>70862657
>I don't know anything about why fantasy failed and am too new to know how shitty GW was back then
>I'm going to vaguely express that I have information that you're wrong, but I'm not actually going to mention any of them

>>70862674
I feel like that ship has sailed, to a point? The hype from ToW has been fading for years, and the Old World is nowhere close to release.

>The problem was the last two editions doubling the number of models you needed to play, doubling the price of eax box and cutting in half the number of models per box.
This problem was present in 40k too, though to a lesser extent regarding unit sizes. People don't give a shit about spending a lot of money on these games, but they still usually have to make a choice between WFB and 40k.

>> No.70862763

>>70862738
Look at the OP, its clearly Three Emperors era. Look how Middenland completely absorbed Hochland and Nordland.

>> No.70862770

>>70862316
Poorfag has no models.

>> No.70862775

>>70862745
No shit you need me to tell you what color the sky is too?

>> No.70862782

>>70862696
Yeah but SoB wasnt a giant middle finger to 40k... ToW I'd kind of just a fuck you to aos players. How well is aos even doing for them to bring back this trash? I dont knowif its fw because honestly their products dont get this much attention. I'm not shitposting here but I am just worried for the future of my game, I think this will split the community. Badly.

>> No.70862786

>>70862745
>I feel like that ship has sailed, to a point? The hype from ToW has been fading for years, and the Old World is nowhere close to release.
Were you not here a month ago when it was announced and /tg/ was just /ToW/ for a week

>> No.70862838

>>70862782
Either you're unironically stupid or larping either way pretty gay post

>> No.70862842

>>70860568
which on is more fun?

(right) average day in the old world:
>sigmund, stop farming potatos! lets talk about geo politics and our relationship to the elfven volk.
>fine

(left) average day in aos:
>lets get out of this fucking labyrinth glodruk heartripper.
>yeah roguth the soulcrusher, where is the way to the burning blood bridge? Lets teleport through the gloom gate to ghur and eat some godbeast meat.
>well fuck... its starting to rain corpses again. lets go back to the mortuary factory and burn some humans.

>> No.70862846

>>70862775
>it's SO obvious, s-so obvious that I don't even need to MENTION it yeah I DEFINITELY know what I'm talking about, so much so that I don't even need to SAY it

>>70862786
>Were you not here a month ago when it was announced and /tg/ was just /ToW/ for a week
I don't mean that, I mean the influx of normie players coming from Total War without miniature experience, like 40k had with DoW. Of course there will be hype for ToW, especially after announcements.

>> No.70862866
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70862866

>>70862763
To be fair, the provinces in Warhammer are a horrific political mess no matter the time period.

>> No.70862868

>>70860360
A unit being "Good" or not doesn't imply that it is going to stay around. That kit needs an update and I believe the update we got came in the form of the warcry warbands.
>>70860385
For now. But rules are much easier to change than moulds and sculpts.

>> No.70862874
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70862874

Gonna have to figure out a way to run these guys as my Marauders.

>> No.70862880

>>70862846
Keep showing your newfag status just like that, I'll be right here laughing at you.

>> No.70862883

>>70862866
I mean, that pic is from pre-Enemy Within which drastically changes the political landscape of the Empire to what we're all familiar with from Karls reign

>> No.70862887

Why did they do Slaves to Darkness so dirty anons?

>> No.70862899

>>70862874
Congratulations! They're already WYSIWYG marauders, so all you have to do to run them as marauders is assemble and paint them!

>> No.70862904

>>70862868
>A unit being "Good" or not doesn't imply that it is going to stay around. That kit needs an update and I believe the update we got came in the form of the warcry warbands.
That's completely unfounded and contradicts the present state of things.

>> No.70862910

>>70862842
I find AoS more fun because the map of the Old World shows you exactly what exists in the setting, with very little room for homebrewed creativity.

In AoS? Fuck, do you want to make a Free City of desert-dwelling people, who hunts giant centipedes in the desert? Do you want to come up with a complete history of this kingdom? Do you want to come up with their political system and cultural customs? Well yeah, you can totally do that. It's the same explanation for the popularity in 40k. You can come up with the lore for entire worlds, and space marine chapters, and have it completely fit in the setting.

>> No.70862915

>>70862887
Be glad getting all your new models is like $80 instead of $60 warriors, $60 dollar knights and a $50 mounted hero.

>> No.70862916

>>70862887
if you're going to complain about ADB again can you just make a thread for it and fuck off

>> No.70862920

>>70862842

The way fantasy was explained to me by a few people who played it for years is that it was more of a typical army game, with lines of troops, positioning and regiments, which the square bases benefited. Lore was more realistic, essentially a medieval war but with fantasy elements. The games were based far more on imagination and the scenario behind the games which the results then helped expand even further.

Todays AoS and 40k are more unique in how they play, armies feel less like armies as they were in fantasy and more like bands of units all strapped together, its common in Sigmar to position units in a conga line or have them messily run up the board.

>> No.70862921

>>70862887
They treat us like we are slaaneshi but we don't like to live in constant tease and blueballing.

>> No.70862932

>>70862899
Sadly they have their own rules in the book so I need to make them meaningfully different somehow.

>> No.70862940

>>70862842
Hey shut the fuck up faggot

The mortuary factory is a great accomplishment of undead unionization and labor rights. Don't trivialize it with your other garbage.

>> No.70862958

>>70862782
I've been under the impression that AoS has been doing pretty well all things considered, much better than the old WHFB line.
However, I suspect that AoS is doing better than the old warhammer fantasy because of two factors: 1) superior marketing* and 2) dropping the high point count investment. A lot of the models carried over, and there are very clear lines to be drawn between the factions of AoS and the OW.
*Part of which includes people being introduced to the IP through games like TW;W and Vermintide

>> No.70862962
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>>70862880
>n-newfag

>> No.70862964

>>70862883
Yes, and the Empire before The Enemy Within is a monstrosity of provinces, duckies, baronies, etc. The Time of Three Emperors was almost certainly much worse because they were all scrambling to get everyone on their side and giving out fiefs like candy.

>> No.70862970

>>70862874
>...and these are my marauders
>oh, cool, ok
wow, difficult

>> No.70862972

>>70862920
>Lore was more realistic, essentially a medieval war but with fantasy elements
I would say it was more rooted in realistic themes but WHFB was high fantasy through and through.

>The games were based far more on imagination and the scenario behind the games which the results then helped expand even further.
Scenario play basically didn't exist in game.

>> No.70862978

>>70862910
Eh, it's a different focus. You won't make your own kingdom or little place in the world, but you can perfectly create your own army and characters. For example, while you won't make a whole new human kingdom, you can perfectly make your own empire captain, warrior priest, wizard, etc and add their own personal heraldry to the army, even while using the colours of, say, averland.

>> No.70862987

>>70862978
I understand, but the scope is still much more limited.

>> No.70862988

>>70862932
Who cares? People run the Shadespire warbands as part of their real units all the time.

I could get the problem with doing that with iron golems or something but spire tyrants are *literally* just updated marauders.

>> No.70862996

>>70862874
I wouldn’t care, I use the serpent fang dudes as marauders.

>> No.70863002

>>70862910
I like AoS but whfb was fine for /yourdudes/ because you were dealing with nation states or empires, so your specific plastic army could easily exist anywhere in the world with all the fluff you really wanted even if you were Empire.

>> No.70863006

>>70862987
Honestly I don't really care. Very few people actually create their own things and most "original" colourschemes look like shit, so most end up using the sample subfactions and colours GW provides.

>> No.70863017

>>70862904
no it doesn't. Eventually the marauder kit will quietly move to legacy play and warcry warbands will all receive points drops, and possible nerfs to make them more hordelike.

>> No.70863022

>>70863017
>dude trust me

>> No.70863072

>>70862910
In Warhammer you make up the lore for your army, your general, etc.

I find AoS' world too vague and open for YourDudes to have meaning. Every homebrew I've seen for it seems to have no relation to anything else in the setting, or the things the homebrewer relates their dudes to are so vague/underdeveloped that they can't know how this things could really effect them. At that point you may as well by playing a generic setting-agnostic system. Most of the people I play with still use WHFB lore for this very reason. If there's no sense of place or context, there's no point in making your own lore for a setting.

>> No.70863078

... Can you feel it...? /aosg/...? The earth trembling...

Its coming /aosg/... its coming for us...

The Old World...

>> No.70863082
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70863082

>>70858501
>FW takes over ToW
>does premium hardcover black (or brown) books for different eras, starting with 3 Emperors but doing the rise of Sigmar and the Great War against Chaos with Magnus
>each book is hundreds of pages long and has extremely detailed historical accounts with new art
>bretonnia and TK stay squatted

>> No.70863091

>>70863072
You are basically saying that say, the forgotten realms are a bad setting because you can tell whatever story you want.

>> No.70863099

>>70863078
go back to total war zoomer

>> No.70863108

>>70863078
Cool story, Poorfag.

>> No.70863111

>>70863099
/aosg/ was shattered... by someone... or something...

Something so powerful not even Age of Sigmar could fight it or resist it...

And its coming for us...

>> No.70863124

>>70863078
You're implying the playerbase isn't going to have 80% overlap

The oddly hostile group of bearded, mid 30's trust fund babies who never leave the game store and play KoW are not really who I'm worried about

>> No.70863128

>>70863006
>Honestly I don't really care. Very few people actually create their own things and most "original" colourschemes look like shit, so most end up using the sample subfactions and colours GW provides.
You might not, but a lot of people do. I have played a lot of other miniatures games where a lot of the setting is preset and players have very little room for creativity. A huge complain I hear from many player who both play, and refuse to play is that lack of creativity.

>>70863072
>If there's no sense of place or context, there's no point in making your own lore for a setting.
I don't see how this could be true. I see your complain about AoS maybe being too much of a blank slate, but literally every fictional setting starts from nothing. Being creative in a hobby like this doesn't have to have a 'point', the process of creativity is reward in it's own.

>> No.70863133

>>70863091
Forgotten Realms IS a bad setting. Settings need focus, they need coherence, they need a sense of place and context. If they seem like a random grab-bag or they have no real limits, they strain verisimilitude and they make anything you contribute to said setting meaningless.

This is why the actual best fantasy settings - Arda, Hyperborea, etc - are the precise opposite of things like AoS.

>> No.70863136

>>70863124
>You're implying the playerbase isn't going to have 80% overlap
I think this is going to be true, which rises the question of why did they have to do all this in the first place.

>> No.70863139

>>70863111
>was
>its coming
can you pick a tense and stay with it

>> No.70863140

>>70863022
ask yourself what GW plans to do with 8 20 man infantry kits and 1 single horribly aged kit.

These are your new marauders, You're just waiting for their rules to get good to believe it.

>> No.70863154

>>70863133
No, anon. You like stories. Forgotten Realms is a setting. AoS is a setting. Arda is the story for the Lord of the Rings and some background.

>> No.70863158

>>70863136
Because its another product line they can sell and make money on, probably at a large premium since it'll likely be either FW resin or specialist games plastic.

>> No.70863160

>>70863078
>>70863111
>2 minutes 12 seconds
So, what's the other thread you're trolling?

>> No.70863161

>>70863091
FR is shit

>> No.70863170

>>70863154
This. Tolkien and Howard didn't make their stories with the intention of people being able to insert their fanfic seamlessly into the setting.

>> No.70863172

>>70863140
>ask yourself what GW plans to do with 8 20 man infantry kits and 1 single horribly aged kit.
Those kits were made for warcry, so they'll keep selling them for warcry. They might eventually update the marauder kit with the underworlds design or they might leave it like that. Saying that the cultist bands are the new marauders is idiotic and contradictory with what they have already done.

>> No.70863180

>>70863128
>I don't see how this could be true.
Think about it this way: you are basically not engaging with AoS' setting at all when you create your subfaction. AoS itself may as well not have a setting, because it's so vague and open. You never have to consider other elements of the setting when creating your OC, you can just plop down anything you like anywhere, so working within the setting is meaningless.

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Are either of the aelf black dragon rider heroes worth taking? 300 seems really expensive. How about Assassins?

>> No.70863188

>>70863078
It's just like... my skaven.. as if they.. they are usable in both?

>> No.70863196
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Why are Ogre models still this good despite their age?

>> No.70863204

>>70863180
>Think about it this way: you are basically not engaging with AoS' setting at all when you create your subfaction
But I am. AoS as a setting has a set of rules. In how the realms work, in what factions there are, in how magic works, etc. My own lore won't be able to influence the overarching story, but if I say my dudes were sent by Archaon to defend a realmgate I'm interacting with the setting AND the characters of the storyline.

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>>70863172
>They might eventually update the marauder kit

>> No.70863217
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70863217

>>70863078
Its a good time to be alive

>> No.70863219

>>70863196
The new tyrant convinced me that ogres could actually be improved

>> No.70863220

>>70863160
Pol.

>> No.70863228

>>70863196
They came oout once GW got their shit together and learned to do plastic kits around the mid 2000. Add a very solid and timeless design with a very modular kit and you have the perfect recipe for success.

>> No.70863233

>>70863196
they were a perfectly self contained and simple aesthetic, truth is they were never good modeld, but their range remains consistent and made of good kits

>> No.70863242

>>70863217
Bruh, Bretonnia is going to be completely irrelevant. ToW is to the Empire what 30k is to Space Marines, and you have Tau.

>> No.70863243

>>70863206
Great argument.

>> No.70863248

>>70863154
>Arda is the story for the Lord of the Rings
Literally the opposite. Arda is the setting for Lord of the Rings. It's a great setting, too, with consistency and context. You could tell a thousand stories in Arda, and they'd be working within a context that makes the things that happen meaningful.

Same goes for Westeros, Hyberborea, The Old World, etc. These settings flourished out of stories, sure, but they're just better constructed then shit like the Mortal Realms.

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70863250

sigh....somehow warhammer fantasy returned.

>> No.70863263

>>70863172
spire tyrants are marauders with armor that matches everchosen.

>> No.70863280

>>70863250
at least put some fucking effort

>> No.70863282

>>70863248
>but they're just better constructed then shit like the Mortal Realms.
The three best stories in AoS took place in Excelsis, Greywater and Hammerhal tho

>> No.70863286

>>70862634
So what, Empire models are shit.

>> No.70863288

>>70863248
>Literally the opposite. Arda is the setting for Lord of the Rings. It's a great setting, too, with consistency and context. You could tell a thousand stories in Arda, and they'd be working within a context that makes the things that happen meaningful.
Not really. Arda is a story with a beggining and and end. No matter what story you might want to tell in its few blank spaces, it won't be able to change any of the events that defined the story.

>> No.70863289

>>70863180
>Think about it this way: you are basically not engaging with AoS' setting at all when you create your subfaction.
Wait says who? You could just as easily make your subfaction something like a mercenary army in Hammerhal, the most relevant location in the setting, and participate in every recent major conflict. Or you have the option of just carving out a completely unique kingdom in the middle of some realm, relevant to no main plot except the ones you make with your friends. You have both options, but in the Old World you only have the first.

>> No.70863290

How viable is a grog Wood Elves army?
I'm talking a Living City CoS army with exclusively Wanderer's units and a few Sylvaneth allies.

>> No.70863295 [DELETED] 

>>70858501
Daughters of Behemath when?!

>> No.70863296
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>>70863217
Great painting job.

>> No.70863297
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>>70858501
>ToW is exclusively Empire focused
>specifically the 3 way civil war
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
ELVES BTFO
BRETS BTFO
VAMPS BTFO
TKS BTFO
LIZARDS BTFO
CHAOS BTFO

>> No.70863299

>>70862662

Book by committee? Isn't that how g-dubs does things now?

>> No.70863306

>>70863172
>Saying that the cultist bands are the new marauders is idiotic and contradictory with what they have already done.
why? it would be idiotic and contrary if they actually released new marauders, but they aren't going to make a 12th flavour of half naked barbarian with a slightly different helmet

>> No.70863314

>>70863290
Not terrible but very limited in selection. Better if you accept using some dark elf war scrolls too but using wood elf models.

>> No.70863319

>>70863172
So far the only kits ported over from WHFB that have ever received an update were chaos warriors and chaos knights.

I really wouldn't hold my breath on ever seeing an updated WHFB kit besides whatever FW is planning to do with TOW.

>> No.70863320

>>70863282
I don't think any of those were good stories. I've yet to encounter an interesting story from AoS. Of course, this is partially because the writing itself is just bad, and would be bad despite the setting, but the backdrop provided by places like Excelsis and Hammerhal genuinely drags the stories told in them down.

It's like reading modern MtG stories about Ravnica. Terrible.

>> No.70863321

>>70863263
They are gladiators that fight in the pits of the varanspire. Pry tell me how the fuck are those supposed to be the replacement of the generic clansman that worships chaos under the lense of his own tribal culture on the other side of the fucking universe. Not to mention, aesthetic wise they can't fit the role of marauders because their armour is much more ornate than the one chaos warriors use, which destroys the sense of progression everything in StD is baseed around.

>> No.70863324

>>70863295
At least you not post your fuking pic.

>> No.70863325

>>70858501
Daughters of Behemath when?!

>> No.70863336

>>70863196
I think Ogre Bulls are a really boring sculpt, and haven't aged nearly as well as other things. But also:

>Icebrow Hunter
>Frostsabres
>fuckin YHETEES

There's a lot that could really use a new kit.

>> No.70863337

>>70863299
only on paper

>> No.70863340

>>70863217
Did you do that?

>> No.70863343

>>70863196
They came out when WHFB finally perfected plastic sculpts. They are the ultimate middle ground and as such pure KHNO.

>> No.70863352

>>70863319
>So far the only kits ported over from WHFB that have ever received an update were chaos warriors and chaos knights.
So you are going to ignore all the gloomspite kits and the ogre tyrant?

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>>70863325
Fuck you.

>> No.70863356

>>70863321
>abloo bloo bloo story
they're half naked barbarians but now their armor has a lil' bit of gold on the edge, they also have WYSIWYG marauder weapons.

>Not to mention, aesthetic wise they can't fit the role of marauders because their armour is much more ornate than the one chaos warriors use, which destroys the sense of progression everything in StD is baseed around.
Besides the fact that they dont have chaos plate?

>> No.70863364

>>70862866
>people prefer this to a cool ass elemental multiverse
I feel sorry for you

>> No.70863369

>>70863297
Well that’s not gonna help sell it.

>> No.70863371

>>70863288
This is how every setting works. Nobody's going to add your campaign to FR canon.

>> No.70863396

>>70863319
>So far the only kits ported over from WHFB that have ever received an update were chaos warriors and chaos knights.
and squigs and squigs and trolls and fanatics and greater daemons and daemon beasts and an ogre tyrant

>> No.70863397

>>70863263
Just give them shields.

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So i took my big lass outside to prime -no this isn't all glued i just set it up for the picture before that guy spergs out about sub assemblies again- and the primers did something odd i've never seen before. I warmed them just enough and shook enough like usual and i've seen coldish weather chalk up paint, corax white especially, but while not detail destroying and easy to smooth out it almost came out 'waxy' or drippy for lack of a better term. The chaos black was a last bit in a rattlecan i've had for months, can that go bad that soon?

Also r8 that leather gut apron pls, quit happy with the fold under her ample bosom.

>> No.70863417
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>>70863369
>Well that’s not gonna help sell it.
NOOO NOT MY GROUNDED LOW FANTASY KINORINO RAT CATCHER MUD FARMING POTATO SACKING SETTING WITH DEEP INTRICATE POLITICAL DYNAMICS AND DEFINED MAP FEATURES WITH REAL PEOPLERINOS AND 30 YEARS OF LORE THAT CLEARLY WASNT REBOOTED IN 2006

>> No.70863430

>>70863371
The difference is that FR and AoS are open enough that you can do whatever the fuck you want and still not contradict their canon. I can write that my dudes tamed a giant contintent spanning godbeast and then crashed it to the land killing everything and it would still not contradict any canon. Yet I can't say that my dudes from Ered Luin battled Angmar unless it's in the specific time they helped the remnants of Arnor.

>> No.70863436

>>70863352
My memory was shaky on that. But you have a point. At the end of the day, my job isn't to convince you. AoS is a lot of money, and you spend it how you like. I'll probably spend it on beautiful looking warbands with the hope that one day they will get chaos marks.

>> No.70863449

>>70863417
Cool falseflag bro.

>> No.70863454

>>70863398
>can that go bad that soon?
No, unless you've left it in terrible conditions the whole time. You probably just sprayed a bit too much, and didn't allow for the paint to dry before applying more. I've had a somewhat similar thing happen when being too impatient while airbrushing, and I've not noticed anything wrong after applying my basecoats. Try basecoating an area and see what happens, but if you use a matt sealer then I don't think it will matter.

>Also r8 that leather gut apron pls, quit happy with the fold under her ample bosom.
bretty gud, didn't even know that wasn't part of the original, even if the angle doesn't showcase it

>> No.70863461

>>70863449
How autistic do you have to be to think that was an attempt at a false flag and not outright mockery

>> No.70863465

>>70863398
white is the worst can of primer. you have to shake it for days.

>> No.70863476

>>70863340
Yiss
>>70863296
Thanks

>> No.70863480

>>70863461
I was giving you the benefit of the doubt because the only thing that utterly retarded meme is good at mocking is the person posting it.

>> No.70863486

>>70863454
Thats the thing i'm super paranoid about losing detail from a thick coat so basically dust my models with little puffs of paint and never have this before and they are all stored in a dry cupboard and the 4 other primers i used on other stuff that day were fine.

Also corax white bring shitty? about as likely as the sun rising but in 20 years i've never had a chaos black behave oddly.

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>>70863320
>but the backdrop provided by places like Excelsis and Hammerhal genuinely drags the stories told in them down.

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>>70863124
>The oddly hostile group of bearded, mid 30's trust fund babies who never leave the game store and play KoW are not really who I'm worried about
I feel attacked

>> No.70863513

>>70863465
From what i understand you can only make white pigment from lead or titanium and areosolised lead is kind of pure evil so they go with titanium which is a much heavier element and reacts worse to temperature shifts and so this causes the white to chalk and solidify in mid air much easier, especially in colder weather but its the most affordable way to mass produce a white spraypaint pigment.

Honestly i used grey seer for the first time and its a little closer to ulthuan grey than corax white but you can't tell when base coated and its flawless in comparison.

>> No.70863519

>>70863320
I don't know how you can complain about Hammerhal but want Altdorf back considering they're basically the same thing, ones just bigger and has lava-based central heating.

>> No.70863523

>>70863180
Why do people always assume their personal view of AoS is factual?

>> No.70863534

>>70863476
Got any more dudes?

>> No.70863544

>>70863180
>I can't YourDudes in this game because it is too perfect to YourDudes in it
You're beyond help. Then again, you don't want help, you want (You)s.

>> No.70863547

>>70863519
My only complaint is that Hammerhal should be a kingdom, not a city.

>> No.70863559

>>70863519
That's actually one of the things I don't like about Hammerhal. It feels artificial. It looks exactly like some Old World city, for some reason, but with random steampunk nonsense plugged into it. And of course it's full of random elves and dwarves that, somehow, look and act almost exactly like the ones from the Old World, except without any of the context that made them this way.

Awful, awful writing.

>> No.70863576

>>70863486
shake the can for at least a minute, spray some test cardboard or something to make sure it looks ok...then spray a model.

>> No.70863598

>>70863523

Who are you to say it's not? Wouldn't that also be just your personal view?

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>> No.70863604

>>70861949
>Smaller playerbase, fewer players, shitty old range in resin and metal, furbait.
Be glad they weren't squatted.

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>>70863534

>> No.70863615

>>70863544
A perfect game for yourdudes makes you want your dudes to actually be connected to the setting in a meaningful way.

>> No.70863643

>>70863615
That can never happen because of the nature of yourdudes.

>> No.70863646

>>70863547
It is a city state.

>>70863559
>And of course it's full of random elves and dwarves
You know Altdorf had an elven embassy with elves walking the noble quarter and an entire dwarven district right
>that, somehow, look and act almost exactly like the ones from the Old World
Dispossessed do because they're obsessed with tradition but Hammerhal has plenty of Kharadron and Fyreslayers who absolutely dont.

Dark elves dont really act like their old selves beyond being massive assholes. Wanderers dont live in the city and what remains of the high elves are their own separate cultures now.

>> No.70863668

>>70863506
At least you’re not someone who’ll look for any excuse to not buy in despite telling everyone in /twg/ how much you love the old world
It’s just that AoS killed it/it’s not the right lore/they changed the lore/the price is too high

>> No.70863669

>>70863615
What you're claiming to want here is impossible. You either pick a faction which is canonically involved in big events (in which case they're not YourDudes) or you pick a faction that does its own thing. The only way to do what you're talking about is to create a faction that does its own thing but does get roped into the big campaign events, which is totally possible in Age of Sigmar. You just deliberately don't read even a sliver of lore so you can keep pretending it isn't.

>> No.70863670

>>70863181
anyone know anything about this or is this exclusively a ToW thread

>> No.70863687

>>70863646
>It is a city state.
Sure, but it's too big to support itself. It'd need dozens of smaller settlements surrounding it to even feed the population, even if the food comes from the Ghyran side. What's more, people would naturally migrate and settle in the surrounding areas and look to trade with Hammerhal and those settlements should grow until they are cities themselves. Hammerhal should be the capital of a giant kindom, not a lone city state in the middle of nowhere.

>> No.70863692

>>70862185
Seraphon is one of the only original races GW has at their disposal, they aren't gonna just drop them that easy.

>> No.70863699

>>70863695
>>70863695
>>70863695
new

>> No.70863700

>>70863670
I think the sorceress is a bit too squishy since she doesn't get Look Out Sir and a 5+ save is killer on a 300 point 14 wound model.

The dreadlords fine but he synergizes only with Serpentis stuff, so if you're taking them too then yes.

>> No.70863701

>>70863646
>You know Altdorf had an elven embassy with elves walking the noble quarter
Yes, it has like ten elves in it. Huzzah.
>an entire dwarven district
Which is fine, because they fit into the setting without it feeling like stretch.
>Dispossessed do because they're obsessed with tradition
Tradition from a world that was completely annihilated down to its core? Face it, this is a terrible, awkward justification for selling old models that has no place in any good lore.
>Dark elves dont really act like their old selves
You mean aside from literally having the same bigass cult? And having the same martial orders and such, just with slightly changed names?
>and what remains of the high elves are their own separate cultures
Lumineth aren't the same elves as those in Hammerhal. The elves in Hammerhal are high elves in all but name.

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>>70863687
>Sure, but it's too big to support itself. It'd need dozens of smaller settlements surrounding it to even feed the population, even if the food comes from the Ghyran side. What's more, people would naturally migrate and settle in the surrounding areas and look to trade with Hammerhal and those settlements should grow until they are cities themselves. Hammerhal should be the capital of a giant kindom, not a lone city state in the middle of nowhere.
I mean thats how it is, Hammerhal is surrounded by human settlers and farmsteads for hundreds of miles. Aqshy soil is extremely fertile as is Ghyran, for obvious reasons.

The Malign Portents short stories have quite a few take place around Hammerhals rural area.

>> No.70863740

>>70863670
I'm fairly certain most CoS players don't use either. On paper the Assassin looks like he'll really struggle with actually damaging Heroes unless you waste an artifact on him while the Lord on Dragon looks like a fine beatstick. The Sorceress on Dragon, like all casters on monsters, seems kind of pointless since you want the monster in the thick of it but simultaneously want to protect the rider and you can't do both.

>> No.70863747

>>70863687
Nations are too potato, anon. That would require maps that make sense.

>> No.70863752

>>70862089
>$75 per 10
For 10 razordons that's a fucking steal, where's the trick?

>> No.70863754

>>70863727
Then it's not a city state and shouldn't be referred as such.

>> No.70863763

>>70863699
Is this bait?

>> No.70863776

>>70863740
yeah, I love her special spell but I can just run 2 normal sorc and some extra bodies for the same cost

>>70863700
I might get the dreadlord just because he is kind of a cool model for my dark elf CoS army.

>> No.70863787

>>70863692
>Seraphon
>original
kek

>> No.70863804

>>70863701
>Yes, it has like ten elves in it. Huzzah.
Low hundreds, including their guards. They live there permanently. The Empire and Lothern have permanent diplomatic relations.
>
Tradition from a world that was completely annihilated down to its core? Face it, this is a terrible, awkward justification for selling old models that has no place in any good lore.
Considering dwarves only survived because their holds were strong enough to survive being in the realm of chaos for days before crashing in the mortal realms, yeah. Dwarves in whfb were already carrying on tens of thousands of years of tradition almost entirely to a T by the End Times, another few thousand years is nothing.
>You mean aside from literally having the same bigass cult?
They're the leftovers of the old culture, plenty moved on. They're the vast minority compared to Teclis and Malerions aelves too.
>The elves in Hammerhal are high elves in all but name.
The opposite really, high elves are way outnumbered by dark elf descendants in the free cities. Phoenix guard and shadow warriors are made from mostly dark elves as well.

>> No.70863813

>>70863754
You've never been to an actual city state, have you?

>> No.70863822

>>70863754
>Then it's not a city state and shouldn't be referred as such.
Sparta and Athens had their own farmland and rural areas too. City State just means you have one city.

>> No.70863832

>>70863813
If they aren't common it's for a reason.
>>70863822
Sparta and Athenas didn't have several million people living in them.

>> No.70863861

>>70863804
>Low hundreds, including their guards
I'm not sure that's accurate, but my complaint was never that there are elves, it's that the situation in this case is artificial.
>Considering dwarves only survived because their holds were strong enough to survive being in the realm of chaos for days before crashing in the mortal realms
Again, a transparently shit excuse to keep selling old models that has no place in good lore.
>They're the leftovers of the old culture, plenty moved on.
They shouldn't exist at all. Their entire world exploded.

>> No.70863867

>>70863832
>If they aren't common it's for a reason.
Monaco.
Malta.
Hamburg.
Just a few. All of them with sprawling farmland and suburbs around them.

>> No.70863879

>>70863832
>Sparta and Athenas didn't have several million people living in them.
What does that have to do with being a City State?
Several million people living in one late renaissance city, especially one with literally magical farmland, isn't that odd.

>> No.70863897

And he's done it again. Adopted a shit opinion, doesn't budge and just rakes in the (You)s.

>> No.70863906

>>70863879
Actually, that would be pretty much unheard of for a late Renaissance city.

>> No.70863908

>>70863861
>They shouldn't exist at all. Their entire world exploded.
Considering warhammer elves are already descendants of a nearly infinite chain of worlds destroyed by chaos, its not that odd.
They're the descendants of those who actually survived the end times, unlike Teclis and Malerions aelves who are those that died in it. It makes more sense for the old elves to keep their traditions than for humans to suddenly rediscover puffy sleaves and codpieces desu.

>> No.70863935

>>70861865
Allies "Phoenix Temple" at best.

>> No.70863964

>>70863908
>They're the descendants of those who actually survived the end times
The idea that people survived the End Times itself is pretty stupid, and serves only to convoluted the lore with shit that is clearly only in place to excuse selling old models and/or making factions that are just slight reskins of old ones.
>It makes more sense for the old elves to keep their traditions than for humans to suddenly rediscover puffy sleaves and codpieces
That's about right, though, which is also why Hammerhal and everything Freeguild related a shit.

If you're going to make a new setting, make a new setting. Don't Frankenstein together a nonsensical one out of leftovers with little thought for coherence or sense.

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>>70863297
Yet the rats are still there, in your basement.

>> No.70864085

>>70863964
>The idea that people survived the End Times itself is pretty stupid
Not that stupid, pocket dimensions already flatly existed in whfb (the colleges of magic mostly exist in one) and the realm of chaos is much more survivable than the Warp in 40k.

That being said a lot of human survivors were either A) chaos aligned and thus protected to a degree or B) didn't strictly survive but had their spirits bound to Mallus and reincarnated later on Azyr after Dracothion put it there.

>> No.70864152

>>70864085
I'm aware of the Mallus explanation. I just find it overly convoluted and essentially just a poor excuse for having shit from the Old World around in force. Stuff from TOW does not fit whatsoever into the concept of AoS and forcing it to fit further weakens the setting.

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I played back in WHFB and was reading the Ogre AoS book. What is this shit of the Maw being an aspect of Gork?

>> No.70864289

>>70864273
Just regular AoS tier lore

>> No.70864348

>>70864273
Which part confuses you? The "this is a new setting" bit?

>> No.70864369

>>70864273
>>70864289
Blame End Times for making the ogres bitches to orcs

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