/tg/ - Traditional Games

1st for Sons of Sanguinius.

>>56864081
I would totally build a Tau army if I could populate it with ratmen.

>>56864081
Posting in best thread

>>56864228
They can count as Fire Warriors, if you want.

>>56864346
Appreciate it, but some yuro decided to roll back the pasta and delete newer megas and mathhammers. I'd rather let this one simmer until the pretender thread sages, so that lazy OPs copy the good one instead of the bad one.

Do I need to buy Imperial Armour: Chaos for Leviathan Dreadnought rules in my Death Guard?

>>56864081
That's really neat.

Reposting in new thread. Do you think limiting players to one detachment would reduce WAAC lists? For events where that is the goal, i don't think its a great idea for a permenant rule.

Tau are pretty interesting i think.

Anyone here know how to contact Zhanchui? Want to order some of his stuff.

>>56867389
I think two detachments is good.

>>56865290
Yes. Or just download it and print the relevant pages.

>>56867389
Yes, But at the same time it would fuck over most armies that cant fill out 1 brigade because CP is very valuable.

>>56867389
1+1 per 1k points works fine

>>56867411
Two detachments doesn't stop any of the WAAC shit at all. You can still get your death guard or black legion or whatever legion bonus, relics etc AND drop magnus in your army in such a thing, or take 50 assassins alongside your IG with no penalty or whatever other shit.

>>56864228
Convert some of them into fire warriors and count the rest as Kroot. Hell, giant rats can even counts as kroot hounds

>>56867341
?

>>56867438
then nerf brigade.

you could do that you start with 5, batalion +2 and brigade +4.

>>56867457
That's more or less normal gameplay though, which is what WAAC lists are mostly designed around.

Why are space wolf players the worst

>>56867389
>one detatchement limit
>armies like guard can easily fill a brigade
>armies like GKs can, at best fill a battalion

I get what you're trying to do, but 1 detatchement is really hard to do.
I would suggest 2 detatchements, like >>56867411 says. With the exception that you can take as many "Auxiliary Support" (the one that costs 1 CP), since it has a tradeoff.

What I'd rather have is rules to stop the bullshit "Hive Fleet mixing", as I'd call it. You get to run ONE bonus to your dudes, or none at all if you decide to mix in other stuff.

Reposting from last thread hoping someone puts them in the Black library MEGA, credit goes to based anon:

>Rise of the Ynnari Epub
http://www21.zippyshare.com/v/drkPLYvW/file.html

>Key Of Infinity (Ahriman advent audio)
http://www77.zippyshare.com/v/31sr2loe/file.html

>The Assassination of Gabriel Seth (advent Rageman vs Eversor)
http://www26.zippyshare.com/v/ky9iVD1b/file.html

>>56867480
Now you're changing the core rules instead of just houserules.

>>56867514
restricting detachments at all is changing core rules.

Why are space wolf players the worst?>>56864081

>>56867389
>Play GSC
>Destroy the coolest part of our mediocre army
Yay....?

So Sisters of Battle are filthy Xeno lovers.

>>56867480
Holy shit, this would make the game so much better.
I mean ffs, I always have to take at least 3 tax Strike squads if I ever want to reach 6 CP with my GKs, and getting the 7th CP means taking another tax HQ

>>56867544
Yeah in the case of GSC it probably needs an exception.

I'm thinking of starting a blood axes ork army but I plan to use 3rd party heads. Anyone have experiences with using models with 3rd party parts at there local games workshop, has the staff said anything?

Post neat HQs!

>>56867537
>When somebody likes apocalypse near me

Alright, here's a more balanced little game. You get to be the thing you last painted a model of, but you have to fight the warlord of that same army. How badly does it go?

>>56867555
>So Sisters of Battle are filthy Xeno lovers.
I can imagine Sisters ending up 'Digga lovers', but Xenos lovers?

Seems unlikely.

>>56867544
Speaking of cults, how many neophytes/acolytes should I run in a single list? Having trouble structure one out

>>56867389
That just cucks armies that can't reasonably fill a brigade. Is making IG and Nids even better really what you're going for?

>>56867571

>>56867537
Yiffs. Not even once.

>>56867537
>america

> The Warmaster ebook

when

>wah wah much small elite army can't spam detachments like horde armies can, plz nerf
>L-let's houserule to buff my army because I can't adapt to a new edition

>>56867592
Bolter legionary vs Sigismund.

Again, bury me in a salsa jar.

>>56867389

Restrict LoW's to above 2000 point games

>>56867555
No?
What gave you that idea

>>56867527
Yeah, that's where GW strategy makes things hard. I want a return to 3rd edition, basically, because I'm old and cranky.

>>56867537
The way that image more american would be if one of them was holding a gun or was wearing an SS armband

>>56867399

I hate to say this guy but lurk moar, r/yoyhammer

Thinking about a DA army based around stacking -1 to hit modifiers

Mind wipe, aversion, Darkshroud, and dark talons for hard to hit

>>56867625

>Gold rivets
Nice. Keep at it tho. Those eyes need to be cleaned up.

>>56867501
lol literally a bunch of weak skin overweights playing toy soldiers. The stereotype is real

>>56867592
Daemonette vs. Herald of Slaanesh...I think we just fuck until someone dies.

Celestial Lions > your dudes.

>>56865290
I just pirated the PDF on my phone. I am not buying a book for 1-3 units who I only use once in a while

>>56867710
This.

>>56867657
Anon, what are you on about? The whole idea was to fix taking Magnus and Mortarian with their best units in one list.

>>56867592
Magnus vs Magnus

Someone post that picture. You know the one

Shitposting aside how are elite armies doing this edition?

I'm considering starting a grey knights terminator heavy army as I love the design of aegis terminator armor or whatever it's called

>>56867571

>>56867389
How about this:
>remove Superheavy Auxiliary Detachment. You want a single LoW, you play a Supreme Command and smile about it.
>each type of detachment is 0-1
And maybe make Brigades a bit easier to build for non-Nids/Guard and a bit harder for them.

>>56867778
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GibiNy4d4gc

Bore off Simba

>>56867592
Well its a Tactical Squad member with a boltgun vs a Captain with a Powersword and a Plasma pistol. I am going to assume i am fucked.

>>56867601
>Diggas having Sororitas 'waifus'
This is extra heretical And I love it

>>56867592
Gargoyle vs Flyrant.

I never asked for this

>>56867657
But horde armies are stupidly overpowered, retardly easy to play, and unfun to play against

What exactly is the problem?

>>56867833
seconding the elite army question for my tau
also how many models/units would you say is too low to actually be entertainable?

>>56867749
k keep me posted

>>56867571
Dunno if he qualifies as neat but he is my proudest paint job atm. Also I need to start inquisition after seeing that model!

How come there still isn't a spess mehreen chapter based on slavs?

>>56867718
I sort of thought that free relics and choosing warlord traits was a step towards fixing that. Like, if you don't choose a character warlord, you can customize yourguy to play how you want to play.
It's certainly not perfect or even implemented across the board, but I like that my company commander can be a full-on Creed style tactical genius or a horrifying melee monster or whatever.
Also, linking specific builds to characters (deathwing, ravenwing, draigowing) is gone now afaik, which is also a step the right way.
Doesn't fix stuff like typhus zombies or guilliman being broken or cadian character spam lists, but it feels like they're at least thinking about it.

>>56867885
Shoulda drilled those barrels anon.

Looks boss though.

I'm currently outfitting my first table, a cityfight table. Any ideas for a "hill"-type terrain that fits into a city?

I want something where you can give a tank some elevation while still being reachable by non-infantry to add some verticality to the game.
Post inspiration for city terrain please.

>>56867887
Because all marines squat

>>56867887
Chapter Master Czernobog with a fuckoff thunder hammer would do nicely.

>>56867885
What chapter you play anon? if its your dudes then who was their origin chapter?

>>56867915
Toppled building?

>>56867885

Drill ya barrels or paint black dots.
Purity seals need some scribble-script.
The rest looks ace.

>>56867592

Cataphractii Terminator, gotta fight Sevatar. Don't know on that one.

For 40k specifically, Kell, got to murder my buddy Creed. It's not hard fighting Creed; it's hard fighting the feels.

>>56867887
Slav is pretty vague, what kind of slav?

>>56867843
Nids and Guard have too small minimum squad sizes.

There simply should not be troop choices below a cost of 5 PL, Gaunts and Infantry Squads should be 20 minimum,

>>56867915
Rubble pile in the middle of a road.

>>56867818
I heard arch called out spikey bit in his last video?
Did he call him a pedophiliac or what
Spikey bit wants to ban people from warhammer

>>56867592

Ravener with rending claws and spinefists vs a Hive Tyrant with scything talons and heavy venom cannon.

I'm biomass.

>auras effect every unit within range
>pyschic abilities are target unit only and on top of that you can only use the same one once per turn

Honestly feels like they didn't think this through when changing it to target. They have such a drop off the higher points are and the less pyschic abilities your faction has.

if you have 3-6 abilities you should never bother with more than 2 pyschers unless spamming smite. Which seems dumb.

I get its a matched play thing but I doubt anyone will allow you to if you're playing for fun.

>>56867537
This i why everybody hates america...

>>56867833
Paladins are nasty because plasma can't kill them easily but are balanced by their expense. Elites do well as long as you have a game plan to knockout what threatens your guys early so they can clean up what's left.

>>56867951
He basically said that Spikey bit was being a tad misguided with his suggestion that GW should set up an official list of 'bad-people'. Nothing about being a pedophiliac or anything retarded like that.

>>56867946
Shut up. You're stupid.

>>56867944
Pagan Ones. Gopniks aren't that grimdark or serious. Maybe Vostroyani style.

>>56867951
Do I want to know who either of those people are?

>carnifex still out of stock
rrrrrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>56867986
Got im. Fuck that guy.

>>56867904
Bastard is pewter and I can barely drill straight as is, once I get him sealed i'll give it a go.

>>56867971
Why?

>>56867926
Black Templars are my chapter of choice!

>>56867992
Ebay?

>>56867710
Even the Stormsurge?

>>56867986
>wah wah those meanies want to nerf my G. I. Joes

>>56867987
I guess they're kind of rolled into the SW. They have successors now but possibly Primaris only, you could create a migration era Slav inspired chapter using them

>>56867537
Been staring at this for a while, I think the furry is actually playing the Salamanders in front of him, also, stop whining about furries and loop your belt properly, you goddamn profligate.

>>56867915
Staircase up to a plateau?

>>56867999

Pewter is soft metal, just apply a small bit of pressure and let the hand drill do the work.
You do *not* want to stab yourself when it punches through the other side.

>>56867936
What's a good way to keep the drill straight when doing the barrels btw?

>>56867986
Why? How is it justified that they can just spa minimum size squads for easy CP?

>>56868035
buh-buh but I wanna play Iron Hands!

Can craftworld eldar become dark one? And vice versa.

>>56867989
One's a 40k Youtuber with "controversial" opinions (YMMV on that) and the other one runs a 40k fan site from what I know. Minor community drama, nothing more.

>>56867970
Psychic powers do unique and interesting things that it's probably better don't scale with game size.

Aura abilities are pretty mundane.

>>56868036
>profligate
pretty much describes 40k desu senpai

>>56868054

Imagine a line going all the way through the weapon and keep the drill parallel to that.

>>56867989
YouTubers who nobody on /tg/ likes. And from what I've heard and seen, frankly for very good reasons. One's basically the vocal minority of fucking retards on /tg/ but with a YouTube account and the other is a fraud and a child molester.

>>56867992
>tfw 3 Carnifexes at home and fully built
You get no sympathy, bandwagoners.

>>56867537
dog bless

>>56868054
You don't need to drill more than a millimeter or two.

>>56868065
Yeah basically path finders. Don't know about reverse. The moment a dark eldar would try that they would be in extreme danger.

Isn't the survey over?
Drop it from the op

>>56867833
Bad
GKs even worse

>>56867839
Is he doing a dramatic reading?

>>56867601
Cult of the Warmason says you are wrong:

>In the midst of war, she’d unexpectedly found enlightenment. Trishala had been
blessed to carry that gift within her.
That one day she might bring others the glory of ascension.

>>56868061
By giving marine players +1 to go first in alpha strike: the edition?

>>56868076
>Aura abilities are pretty mundane.

Are you serious?
Have you just not played with a character that has broken auras?

>>56867537
Why is everyone so fat?

>>56868065
Sure. And they do so all the time. Craftworldlers saying screw it to all the discipline bullshit and Darks finding their conscience is a pretty common thing.

>>56868081
>>56868075
>tubers
ah okay pseudo-celebrity drama, blech

>>56868081
>a fraud and a child molester

THERE WAS NEVER ANY OROOF

>>56868117
>>56867643

>>56868108
>+1 to go first
>not guaranteed first turn like it should be

Bruh

>>56868117
Weird, right? Wargaming is such an active hobby for active people.

>>56868081
>YouTubers who nobody on /tg/ likes
[Citation needed], but whatever.

>>56868103
>Genestealers
That's just cheating and you know it!

>>56867592
Tau Crisis Battlesuit vs Ethereal

I'm pretty ok

>>56868117
Do you really need to ask?

>>56868120
But dark ones dont have soulstones, do they?

>>56868138
aaaaah fuck I've been getting baited

>>56868145
I like them

>>56868170
Well played anon.

>>56867833
GK seem pretty bad atm, but as far as ALL elite armies being bad idk, people say it but that doesn't mean they are right.

>>56868145
She couldn't resist them family jewel, though the question remain, since it was probably the magus, would that make her a filthy zoophile, mutantphile, or just a filthy xenophile?

How would you paint Plaguebearer eyes?

>>56867537
Jesus christ what is this, blimps play warhammer?

>>56868156
Nope. That's why they have to torture. And even if they had, for the Darks, the stones wouldn't help, as a) their bodies can be regenerated from chunky salsa with enough pain and b) the Darks don't have any matrix to put the stones in, so the stones would just be laying around gathering dust.

>>56867833
Elite armies suck really badly. There are a lot of ways to get around their survivability and if you don't go first you are royally screwed.

The worst thing you want to give is your opponent the ability to easily trade by having a bunch of expensive units on the board. There's just so many ways for them to get their points back without even thinking.

>>56868117
>why are fa/tg/uys fat?

>>56868189
>would that make her a filthy zoophile, mutantphile, or just a filthy xenophile?
I prefer the broader term 'heretic'.

>tfw you realize Diggas, the Ork's "pets", are less heretical to bang than getting fucked by genestealers

++ Battalion Detachment +3CP (Chaos - Death Guard) [89 PL, 1495pts] ++

+ Heavy Support +

Plagueburst Crawler [8 PL, 140pts]: 2x Plaguespitter, Heavy Slugger

+ HQ +

Lord of Contagion [7 PL, 117pts]: Manreaper

Typhus [9 PL, 175pts]: Blades of Putrefaction, Putrescent Vitality

+ Elites +

Blightlord Terminators [14 PL, 223pts]
. Blightlord Terminator: Bubotic Axe, Combi-bolter
. Blightlord Terminator: Bubotic Axe, Combi-bolter
. Blightlord Terminator: Bubotic Axe, Combi-bolter
. Blightlord Terminator: Bubotic Axe, Combi-bolter
. Blightlord Terminator Champion: Bubotic Axe

Helbrute [7 PL, 139pts]: Helbrute fist, Multi-melta

+ Fast Attack +

Chaos Spawn [2 PL, 33pts]: Chaos Spawn

Foetid Bloat-drone [8 PL, 158pts]: 2x Plaguespitters, Plague probe

Myphitic Blight-haulers [7 PL, 142pts]
. Myphitic Blight-hauler: Bile spurt, Missile launcher, Multi-melta

+ Troops +

Plague Marines [7 PL, 95pts]
. Plague Champion: Boltgun, Plague knife
. 3x Plague Marine w/ boltgun
. Plague Marine w/ Special Weapon: Blight launcher

Plague Marines [7 PL, 85pts]: 4x Plague Marine w/ boltgun
. Plague Champion: Boltgun, Plague knife

Plague Marines [7 PL, 68pts]: 3x Plague Marine w/ boltgun
. Plague Champion: Boltgun, Plague knife

Poxwalkers [3 PL, 60pts]: 10x Poxwalker

Poxwalkers [3 PL, 60pts]: 10x Poxwalker

++ Total: [89 PL, 1495pts] ++

r8

Just played against Bobby G. I had forgotten how much I fucking hate Bobby G.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/12/10/next-weeks-new-releases-no-glue-no-time-no-problem/


AUGH STOP RELEASING EASY BUILD AND SHIT NOBODY CARES ABOUT

>>56867833
GKs are kinda shit (worst codex army, feelsbadman) desu, but we have a couple cool tools in our kit that, when used right, can do decently well.

Use your Terminators as Paladins. Paladins, while expensive, are really good because they can tank 2 damage shots from TEQ killers like plasma.
Dreadknights, while ugly, are very good if used as the Grandmaster variant. Enjoy your T6 12W 2+3++ Character hitting on 2s, rerolling ones with all those nice toys he gets.
Dreadnoughts, Stormravens and Land Raiders are your best source of Antitank. Use them intelligently. (Astral Aim/Gate of Infinity are probably the two most important spells in our kit, they can make your units win fights they normally wouldnt in a normal 1v1 situation)

Purgators are also very good. Relatively cheap (100ish points) for 24 S4 Ap- Dmg D3 shots is very good. They're an all rounder unit for dealing with both hordes and vehicle's. Spam these and you will be pleased.

The only HQs really worth taking apart from GM Dreadknights are Draigo (beatstick, buffmander, durable as fuck), Voldus (slightly worse beatstick, psychic powerhouse but kinda squishy) or a Brotherhood Champion (weakest beatstick and psyker, no buffs, but cheap as fuck for GKs, anyway and more durable than Voldus)

Ancients are, ironically, better when run with Strike spam than Paladins, since you get more attacks based on having more models. In general they arent worth it tho IMO

Apothecaries are only good if you take a really big blob of Paladins, otherwise you're opponent wont leave you any dudes to heal.

Only play strikes if you feel like you REALLY need the extra CP. A good GK list should have 2 HQs min(and 3 max, since more is way to expensive). With 2 HQs, you should be capable of getting 5 CP via Vanguards/Spearheads, so decide wheither or not the extra CP for a total of 6 with the Batallion is worth spending 315 points of Strikes on.

Hope this helps. :D

>>56868194
Thin some black paint and dip in eyes and then dot with a tiny brush white.

++ Battalion Detachment +3CP (Chaos - Death Guard) [84 PL, 1473pts] ++

+ Heavy Support +

Plagueburst Crawler [8 PL, 140pts]: 2x Plaguespitter, Heavy Slugger

+ HQ +

Lord of Contagion [7 PL, 117pts]: Manreaper

Typhus [9 PL, 175pts]: Blades of Putrefaction, Putrescent Vitality

+ Elites +

Beasts of Nurgle [2 PL, 38pts]: Beast of Nurgle

Blightlord Terminators [14 PL, 223pts]
. Blightlord Terminator: Bubotic Axe, Combi-bolter
. Blightlord Terminator: Bubotic Axe, Combi-bolter
. Blightlord Terminator: Bubotic Axe, Combi-bolter
. Blightlord Terminator: Bubotic Axe, Combi-bolter
. Blightlord Terminator Champion: Bubotic Axe

Helbrute [7 PL, 147pts]: Missile launcher, Twin lascannon

+ Fast Attack +

Chaos Spawn [2 PL, 33pts]: Chaos Spawn

Foetid Bloat-drone [8 PL, 158pts]: 2x Plaguespitters, Plague probe

Myphitic Blight-haulers [7 PL, 142pts]
. Myphitic Blight-hauler: Bile spurt, Missile launcher, Multi-melta

+ Troops +

Plague Marines [7 PL, 95pts]
. Plague Champion: Boltgun, Plague knife
. 3x Plague Marine w/ boltgun
. Plague Marine w/ Special Weapon: Blight launcher

Plague Marines [7 PL, 85pts]: 4x Plague Marine w/ boltgun
. Plague Champion: Boltgun, Plague knife

Poxwalkers [3 PL, 60pts]: 10x Poxwalker

Poxwalkers [3 PL, 60pts]: 10x Poxwalker

++ Total: [84 PL, 1473pts] ++

Rate h8

>>56867751
Vallejo hammered copper actually

>>56868247
Combine the two pox walkers, you don't want to get fucked over when buffing them with pyschic shit. That and you'll suffer the moment you lose a single pox walker.

They need to weather some shots before they get everything back.

What do you guys think about dakka Dreadnought? Aka. dual autocannon. I think it could wreak havoc for it's cheap points, 8str 7 48" ap-1 d2 shots. Or is it just shit and I just wasted 20£ for forgeworld autocannons

>>56868120
I didn't think it was particularly common unless there's been a lore change. Isn't a Craftworlder going "fuck this shit I'm going to become a pirate" a more common occurrence usually swiftly follow by "fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck I should never have left the Craftworld. Asuraman help me! fuck fuck fuck" when they discover what life outside the craftworld actually entails

>>56868298
To this i guess
>>56868283

>>56868298
Reposted it, and combined the walkers, anything else?

So I've finally managed to get my schedule to the point to where I can actually start doing hobby shit again, so the question arises, do I get back into 40k? I played primarily in 5th and during the middle of 6th actual life bullshit started happening so haven't been able to play anything since. I heard 7th was a shitshow, so how does the current edition compare? I still have my guard stuff, but will probably start something new just so I have something to build and paint as well.

>>56868302
Basically every single kid eldar turns edgy and becomes a dark eldar.

>>56868300
After the flyer nerfs it's eh.
It's not awful but you better have your bases covered

>>56868253
Well anon how about instead of raging on here where they can't see you. You create a facebook page if you don't already have one and tell them on their in a constructive manner why you dislike the new Easy to build kits and the new card game.

>>56868265
>worst codex army, feelsbadman
What about dark eldar, deathwatch?

>>56867778
I'm actually building a CL army right now and the Reiver kits are my saviour. Their tacticool bolt carbines are the best replacement for normal boltguns.

>>56868245
You know the Imperium is going to shit when we got the Ultramarines and a Primarch in one side cozying with filthy Eldar and Sisters of Battle on the other cozying it up with Genestealers.

>>56867592
Stormraven vs Gravis Captain
Yeah, I can manage.

>>56868253
Go fuck yourself. ETB is cheap as chips and a slightly bigger challenge to convert than normal shit. That stuff is awesome. Especially since it means I don't have to sell my spleen for pic related.

>>56868341
>codex army,
those two are still index armies

>>56868314
Your anti armor is pretty weak.
Would say you have a lot of fast shit to lock stuff from shooting but you don't seem to have much followup.

What exactly is the general strat?

>>56867389
How about just play the game?
Competitive players will optimize withing whatever restrictions you set and end up ahead no mater what and actual WAACfags will be cheaty fuckers either way.

>>56868341
>I said worst CODEX army
>you name armies that are currently INDEX only

My friend maintains that a leman russ that moved less half its move, it can then fire its turret weapon twice in overwatch.
This seems like quite some shit. Is he right?

>>56868302
Well, reading between the lines, there are far more Darks than Craftworldlers now, so I assume the majority of current Craftworldlers has been Dark at some time in their life.

>gw keeps releasing easy build
>there is little to no downside to buying eBay now

Shooting themselves in the foot.

Guys, why is the community survey thing still up in OP posts?

It ended on Thursday.

>>56868377
Basically my strat is;

Walk towards enemy units and then kill them.

My main opponent is going to be Primaris Ultramarines with two Redemptor Dreadnoughts and a bunch of intercessors

>>56868283
Give your termintors a flail for goodness sake

>>56868247
pretty sure that 3x PM option is a mistake. it isn't in the codex at all.

>cut 3x PM, merge poxwalker squads together
>don't take MM on helbrutes because it sucks just go missiles/lascannons
>putrescent vitality probably won't help as much as miasma
>chaos spawn just plain suck so either use it exclusively for chasing objectives or cut it for more blight launchers
>use the lord of contagion as your warlord so you can run Arch contaminator with your terminators
>take 1 flail and 1 blight launcher with the termies at least

oh and look over your battlescribe options more because you forgot to add some things

>>56868375
Has ANYONE proxied this yet?
Any results?

How are earthshaker carriages/platforms for IG? The platform looks to be flat out better since it doesn't need a crew and is otherwise identical. And what would you recommend as the regiment choice for an army that focuses on artillery and heavy weapons teams? Currently liking the cadian bonus

>>56867592
>I am an Acolyte Iconward
>I only own 1 model for GSCs
>I must fight myself

Spooky.

>>56868397
Think he's wrong because out of phase abilities like that only work in shooting phase. While RULES or abilities that say they work in over watch do.

>>56868397

Depends on the phrasing in 'Grinding advance', so it very well could.

>>56868376
Still, whats /tg's opinion on them?

>>56868409
Sounds like a good strat.
Focus on securing those mortal wounds then.

>Play Consecrators Unforgiven
>Hyped for new DA codex
>Making a "rogue trader inspired" army
>Obviously I need me a rolly polly Land Raider Proteus
>Look up rules, it has no twin heavy bolters and is somehow 30 points more than a regular land raider

WHY. JUST TELL ME WHY FORGE WORLD.

>still temporarily out of stock
When will horsies come back ?

>>56867592
Custode vs Azrael

Azrael would probably take me, but he'll carry the wounds of that day for the rest of his life

>>56868397
he is incorrect
GRINDING ADVANCE
The Leman Russ tank’s sturdy frame allows it to keep up a fearsome rate of fire even as it advances on the foe. If this model moves under half speed in its Movement phase (i.e. it moves a distance in inches less than half of its current Move characteristic) it can shoot its turret weapon twice in the following Shooting phase (the turret weapon must target the same unit both times). Furthermore, hit rolls for this model’s turret weapon do not suffer the penalty for moving and shooting a Heavy weapon. The following weapons are turret weapons: battle cannon, eradicator nova cannon, exterminator autocannon, vanquisher battle cannon, demolisher cannon, executioner plasma cannon and punisher gatling cannon

> in its Movement phase
>in the following Shooting phase

>>56868427
If you want to footslog death guard it's gold.

>>56868370
Maybe Emps can finally pinch it off and start to make the Imperium compliant again.

>>56867970
You'd have to change psychic powers so they don't stack.

OFFICIAL BLACK LIBRARY AUTHOR POWER RANKINGS
1. DAN ABNETT
2. ADB
3. SANDY MITCHELL
4. Chris Wraight
5. Graham McNeil
.
.
.
POWER GAP
.
.
.
90001. Guy Haley
90000000000000000000001. Gav Thorpe
.

>>56868339
>>56868375
MAYBE I SHOULD JUST SAY THAT IT'S NOT FOR ME
But why the card game. Did the survey come back with a resounding "I really wish there were a hastily made card game about the overdone protagonists and cartoon villain of the 40k universe that I couldn't play with people who aren't into 40k"

Here's the -1 to hit stacking DA army I mentioned before

>>56868533
What's wrong with Haley ? I read Dante and it was good.

>>56868283
The lone spawn and nurgle beast will be pretty useless, neither is really going to be a threat to anything and will not be good as objective holders because they will just be gunned down pretty easily. Personally would go for combi-plas over combi-bolter and get that terminator champion a flail. I would swap the missile launch for a fist or preferably a scourge, a missile launcher is kind of a waste of points on a helbrute. Your plage marine champions could use some combi-weapons as well, again plas is probably the best option. Increase those poxwalker squad sizes so that your buffs on them actually do something worth while. You could use some more anti-tank, consider swapping the bloat-drone for another plagueburst crawler especially since the drone is going to out pace all of your infantry and just get blown up before the rest of your units can catch up.

>>56868533
You put ADB way too high in your list there soyboy.

>>56868370
>>56868518
You guys are just jealous we got the best waifus

>>56868533
why do people take the BL lore so seriously? why do people take any of the lore seriously? it is just designed to get you to buy 30 dollar happy meal toys

>>56868533
>ADb anywhere near the top
No thanks, I prefer authors who take pride in their work

>>56868544
I'd imagine that was done before the survey

>>56868137
>>56868147
But who wins the most medals and the most gold medals at the Olympics?

>tfw your pox walkers are munching on two units on two different sides of the board at once

Question though, if you declare charge on two dudes and get with range of one can you still move the others closer to the ones you didn't get in range with?

>>56868544
Well, you won't hear me defending those cards. I assume that'll land in their Stocking Filler category with the idea that clueless parents will get it for their kids for christmas.

>>56868490
Figures. Thanks.

>>56868553
Haley is extremely hit or miss in his writing.

>>56868574
A surprisingly high number of people follow the lore without ever playing the game

>>56868544
This is likely just from a backlog. We'll end up seeing the results of the survey sometime six months from now if I had to go full mek-boy speculation mode...

>>56868441
I fight myself everyday just to avoid succumbing to despair.
>wanted to go in to play
>sit around feeling sorry for myself
I guess I lost that fight

>>56868526
Most that don't apply buffs specifically say they don't work twice on a unit. And buffs cant be applied twice to something anyways.

>>56868544
>he thinks that the survey which ended 3 days ago has had any noticeable impact on company policy yet
Anon, I'm 100% serious when I say this: Are you retarded?

>>56868499
I'm kinda tempted to do a huge 20man plague marine bloob, with full a bunch of characters, three squad cute crawlers, and some pox walkers to eat the shots.

>>56868533
What's wrong with Guy Haley and Gav Thorpe, mate?

>>56868589
You can move any model other than the first anywhere you like as long as you maintain coherency.

>>56868544
Hey, I agree that the cards are a stupid idea but you did seem to be aggravated that they are releasing these kits and if you have a displeasure with an item i believe its better to tell the provider of that item that you dislike it more than screaming about it on an anonymous board where they can't see it.

>>56868629
Apart from being bad writers?

>>56868533
lol Graham McNeil

>>56868629
>posting a heretic edit of the DKoK

>>56868588
>wins most medals
>sends by far the most athletes
Wow, wonder how that could have happened.

>>56868641
Thorpe does suck giant mutant Chaos cock, but Haley is getting better, if not consistent.

>>56868628
Don't use pox walkers to eat shots.

Use plague bearers or cultist.
Pox walkers need to be killing shit to survive, they are horrendeous and squishy otherwise.

>>56867592
I'm a lictor against the swarmlord
Hivemind help me

>>56868629
Thorpe is a fag. But there's no way that's the reason for anon ranking him that low, because then ADB wold also be such.
Haley can be hit or miss. That said, He does deserve to be higher up, because his good books are actually quite good.
Lowest spot should have been for a certain multilasers loving paddy, the fact that that's not the case shows anon is a newfag

>>56868630
Cool can they get within 1 inch of something I didn't charge?

>>56868681
We don't need to mention the Irish poof's name here.

>>56867465
Holy shit, Ratogres as Krootox

>>56868651
To be fair, most every BL writer is a leftist fag. Only one I'm not sure about is haley, but that's probably just because I haven't bothered to look into it.

>>56868693
Not until you consolidate

>>56868641
>Apart from being bad writers?
>Guy Haley
>Author of Evil Sun Rising and Klaw of Mork, the only books written from a purely Ork perspective, which nails the old Rogue Trader Ork Kultur to T
>Bad
ZOG OFF YA GIT.

>>56868662
>Ignores the most gold's part
Stay mad that America Produces the best athletes and the fattest neck beards.

>>56868693
That they can't do with the charge move. They'd have to wait until the pile in. That's just there so you can't cheat overwatch.

>he doesn't drill his model's eyeholes

Why aren't you playing the best chapter ?

>>56868711
Guilliman's tolerant and progressive stance rather suggests that he might be

>>56868651
>I read a politician's fluff piece and believe they would have changed the world for the better!

Did the California Sun cook his Scottish brain?

>>56868700
It's too late anon, the mere mention of him has summoned him from the dark abbyss in which he sleeps.
I for one welcome out new black irish leper overlords

>>56867951

Spikey bits is a bullshit website anyway and arch just stirs shit.

>>56868758
It's been a while since I read dark imperium, but I don't remember anything quite progressive.
There was him not liking the cherubs, but that's not exactly an extreme position. And he was struggling with losing his atheism, which isn't exactly the most leftists of plot develpoments

Why do people whine that wave serpents are faster than raiders when I can load up dark lances and splinter rifles and fire them one the move? Wave serpents can’t do that shit. AND if I move 14 and advance another D6 I can STILL fire the dark lance at BS4.

People never look at the bright side they just have knee jerk reactions to shit in this game.

>>56868662
US still ranks #1 in terms of medals per athlete

https://www.thestar.com/sports/olympics/2016/08/09/do-countries-win-more-olympics-medals-if-they-send-more-athletes.html

who can stop him?

>>56868796

And Russia is banned from the winter Olympics this year so the win streak will continue

>>56867592
>Shadowsword
>Company Commander
>Mfw

>>56868759
anything looks better then Trump

>>56867592
>trygon prime vs walkrant with bonesword+lashwhip and talons
I like my odds

>>56868807
Me

>>56868283
flail for termies, poxwalker as 1 unit of 20, delete chaos spawn and/or beast of nurglen run at least 1 chaos lord to hang out with plague marines & plagueburst with the reroll all wound trait could be nice. blightlord are very expensive, if you need to cut some points try Deathshroud, very nice since point drop

>>56868675
plague bearers don't have Death Guard keyword, so I lose the detachment benefits.

As for cultists, they are just are even more squishy, no Disgustingly Resilient, no T4 from typhos, suffer from moral.

I don't intend them to last forever, just eat shots for the couple of turns it takes to get up the field.

I might add another detachment to of nurgle daemons for nurglings, plague bearers etch.

>>56868807
this guy>>56868850

>>56868786
>It has long been in your capability to transform these worlds. Baal Primus is dead, but you need not let your remaining people suffer unnecessarily. Will they fight any better for dwelling on a world that kills them? By sacrificing their children to the Emperor’s service, they have earned a better life. Once you have torn that blasphemy down, raise up the population of Baal Secundus. Teach them what we are fighting for. A line must be drawn between what is good and what is evil, for if the Great Enemy comes with offers of power to a wretch, what reason does he have to refuse hell if he dwells in it already?

>>56868651
>drinking the coolaid
I knew he looked like a cuck, but I didn't know it was that bad.

>>56868847
Yeah, the sky sure fell when he was sworn it, liberal hysterics were all right on the money.

>>56867592
I am a Guardsman vs the Company Commander

Commissars gonna have my head for this even if I win.

>>56868850
Can the Imperial guard even hurt necrons? Last time I checked, even warriors can eat point blank meltas to the face

>>56868732
you do need to move closer to the closest enemy unit on the pile in, which you can manipulate, but need to be careful on.

Still done this a few times to just get within the inch of an enemy tank, heavy weapon, ect after making a charge with flankers. It wasn't the overwatch bit, I just needed to get further into than I could off the charge.

>>56867592
>Sentinel with H. flamer vs platoon commander
Both die horribly

Sisters of battle are pure! PURE!

>>56868897
It's not hysteria if true.

Fuck him

>>56867566
I believe the requirement for it to be considered legal for GW play is the model must be more than 50% GW model.
I might be wrong on the percent.

>>56868758
Was that tolerant and progressive stance before or after Girlyman's Make Ultramar Great Again speech?

>>56867592
Waagh banner Nob VS a Pain boy.
As long as I can land my shots, I should be fine.

What is his endgame?

>>56868949
>It's not hysteria if true.
Trump Derangement Syndrome strikes again. Tragic.

>>56868949
Yeah, everyday I see the smoke rising from the camps, it's awful.

>>56868807
>Who can stop Imotekh the Stormlord?
>Random Ork stands up
>"Oi! Tin-brain! I'mma krump ya!!"
>All of Imotekh's carefully plans are now ruined

>>56867592
Hellhound with heavy flamer vs Senior Officer with las-pistol and chainsword, pretty sure I've got this.

So I cannot convince this guy at my local shop he is cheating. He plays Ynnari with a CWE detachment and he is using the Webway Stratagem to deep strike in a unit of dark reapers in the Ynnari detachment. He says its entirely legal and I don't know where to look to show him he's wrong.

Tfw when the burgers arrive and shit up the Lord's Thread

>>56867592
Grey Knights Paladin vs an Inquisitor

>>56868788
because people are dumb, like being angry, and hate nuance and considering multiple fasters.

I mean the WS is good, and pre-codex was strictly better than the other CW tank options. Now that's not the case, so whatever.

>>56868922
If a necrons moving parts are clogged with chunks of guardsman, yes

>>56868533
eisenhorn and flight of the eisenstein are the only worthwhile 40k books

>>56867592
Reaver v Archon.
I think I'm pretty good.

>>56869012
Afaik the WWP strat says you need to have Drukhari keyword, which Dark Reapers clearly lack.

>>56869023
Oh yeah because the gayposting/trapposting/animeposting is much better you dumb fucking old world social democrat serf

So how is he gonna feel about Luthor?

>>56867592
Scarab vs Ahriman. Think I'm still fucked boys.

>>56869042
Burger detected

>>56869023
>tfw people act like whiny bitches about it instead of giving the burgers as good as we get

>>56869012
He isn't cheating, you are a complete faggot.
>>56869036
It's clearly the CWE webway strat not the DE one, it only requires the ASURYANI keyword, Ynnari doesn't remove this.

>>56869036

No its in the Eldar book as well.

>>56867592
I'm an Onager Dunecrawler with Icarus Array vs a Tech-Priest Dominus.

I would've rather had a different weapon but it could go either way.

>>56869012
he's not cheating.

This is a bit of rules that get stupid, and people are hoping for a errata. If you have a detachment that grants you access to stratagems, you can use those even on units not from that detachment.

It's annoying and very abusable.

That said, DSing dark reapers seems like a terrible way to do it, they don't need to be close and can't be within 7" of an enemy to get the soul burst.

>>56869012
He can because it requires the ASURYANI keyword which craftworld ynnari retain

>>56868986
Only tragedy is that he was allowed to get in.

>>56869075
>>56869082
>>56869085

Well that's fucking stupid. He's doing it to prevent me from being able to get my Berzerkers from first turn charging them .

>>56869042
Wow, those sure are a lot of buzzwords. Maybe throw in "cuck" as well next time.

>>56869080
Get within 6" and you can reroll 1s. EZ

>>56869082

not that guy but I'm assuming he's doing it to ensure an effective beta/alpha strike and keeping the unit from being first turn charged. I'd plop em down next to Yvraine and then Word them.

>tfw can't use my priests or penitent engines in my Sisters of Battle army if I want to use any of the sister's strats

>>56867592
>leviathan dreadnought
>vs Bjorn the fell handed

Wew lad

>>56869104
and not just, say, deploying them way back with stuff in between.
They have 48" range and can move 7" then shoot without penalty. I know bezerkers can get up the field, but you can deploy your reapers all the way on the back line, likely in ruins for the cover, which also give a penalty to charge range.

>>56869123
>Caring about strats
Rule of cool baby

>>56869107
yup welcome to burger hours

>>56869053
>implying he wasn't the one who released him
>implying he isn't the one who will help the DA find him once Luthor finds the Lion

>>56869137
Off hours are so dead I'd almost rather the thread be shit.

>>56869123

Why not?

>>56868761
Great. Slannesh can schlick to more badly written Eldar BDSM.

>>56869123
Just put them in a separate detachment???

So with the 10th codex soon to be released, how would you guys rate them?

Grey Knights is the worst?

>>56869012
It's not wrong. It's cheesy as fuck, but he's within the rules.

>>56867592
Fisto Kastelan vs. Dominus

I think I won.

>>56868556
is flail on champ legal ? I don't think so mate :/

>>56869157
>Slannesh
>schlick
anon...

How would a 5 man Blood Angel reiver squad be as a counter-charge unit?

I could swap out their bolt pistols for knives, they've got a little bit of ranged firepower as well as decent melee for just 90 points.

Their shock grenades seem quite nice too, especially if they're in a re-roll aura.

>>56869167
A guy at my LGS is salty that "GK's are being nerfed too much". I remind him of how 'nids and' crons got nailed with the nerfhammer for years and I didn't get my panties in a knot.

>>56869243
Hey, I can ignore the giant dick with the spiked Prince Albert.

>>56869255
A guy complained Guilleman had a "point cost increase"
I just kind of looked at him and the handful of orks I had left as it was the 3rd turn

>>56868973
after... or possibly before, the books are published in a funny order. The Assassination of Gabriel Seth precedes Devistation of Baal which takes place prior to Dark Imperium but they were published in reverse order

>>56869119
honestly yvraine wording a big unit of Dark Reapers is about the only one trick that Ynnari add at this point.
Down to one Soulburst on your turn, so you now take a character to use a power to get one double shot.
Which probably cost you a CP to get the detachment, which you want. And/or denies some units a useful CW bonus.

>>56867592
Firewarrior vs Commander.
RIP me.

>>56869252
Pretty sure you can only have Carbine/Pistol or Knife/Pistol but not Knife/Carbine, But other than that, small Reiver squads are nice and cheap. They struggle with high T and Sv units, but if you use them for as charge deterrent/overwatch sponges, they're nice enough.

>>56869243

>>56869152
You need a sororitas keyword detachment to use them and they lack it, putting them in makes it a ministorum detachment.
>>56869161
I'll probably end up doing that, but it would have to be lead by an Inquisitor or something to not have a superflous Cannoness granting her buff to girls who already have it, further mudying the waters down to it being imperium soup for that detachment/the army. It's a silly hoop to have to jump through to put it in units that have been pretty key to the army since forever.

>>56868588
How many medals do you win at the olympics?

>>56869283
I fucking hate Gorillaman. Three people I play against use him and it sucks balls when they whine about how they have to lose three models to keep him.

>>56869053
it's Luther and dunno.

Luther seems prone to possession according to the blurb in the back of the new codex, just to conflate things further

>>56869092
>Not understanding how America's elections work
Hey anon, it's no one's fault but HRC's for not putting more effort into protecting her 'Blue Firewall'. Electoral votes > Popular vote at the end of the day.

>>56869255
>"GK's are being nerfed too much".
Funny, both of my GW store's resident GK players can still run rough-shod over everyone's armies last I checked.

>>56869243

>>56868889
>>56868651
Faggots like this are shaping 40K lore now. Nothing to worry about.

>>56869353
>Funny, both of my GW store's resident GK players can still run rough-shod over everyone's armies last I checked.
So everyone at your lgs is shit at playing except the GK players?

>>56869321
for a non-tourney game I'd totally allow priests and penitents to get the 'can be included without breaking the detachment, but don't get the detachment bonuses', like the auxiliaries in IG, phoenix lords in CW, etc.

I've never understood this because I'm retarded
When something has a 6+ save, it's on a roll of six right
but what's a 6++ or 6+++ or whatever
Does it negate things like AP so you can roll for saves on a 6++ even if the enemy AP -1's you?

>>56869360
what do you mean now? Gav's been with them since 2nd ed

>>56869360

>he thinks 40k was created by people who agree with him

>>56869324
Hordes list tailoring with rowboat man and molestine for maximum fuck

>>56869353
He's got a hodgepodge of GKs and if he used them right he would win a lot more. Given, his models look awesome, but on the table he runs into problems with pits and sight lines.

Plz help. Either I'm retarded or I'm being gaslighted. How many shots does a gun drone get?

>>56869391
For crying out loud

>>56868847
Apparently not to the American people...

>>56869398
>he thinks the politics of the original 40k creators mattered at all
Let me guess, you think ghazzie was actually some commentary on the big bad Margret thatcher and her conservative cronies, right?

>>56869400
I don't play smurfs. I get my ass handed to me by them a lot.

>>56869353
>>Not understanding how America's elections work
>implying how it worked to let him win wasn't the tragedy and people aren't well aware of it.

>>56869388
++ is a short hand for invulnerable saves.
+++ is for abilities that negate wounds, rolled after saves.

>>56869388
++ typically is how people write invuln saves. So yes, they ignore AP.
+++ typically refers to rolls made after saves. Like Disgustingly Resilient. These aren't saves, so ignore minuses to saves and can be taken against mortal wounds.

it's just notation.

>>56867592
So who would I foight? It's technically a model.

>>56869391
A sizeable number of socially awkward nerds are cucks. Who knew.

>>56869437
If there wasn't an electoral college we wouldn't even need different political parties, the state of California would simply decide the outcome of every election, there wouldn't even be a point in other states voting

>>56869453
The erect eagle of displeasure

>>56869437
not him, but your an idiot. Like it or not, the electoral college did EXACTLY what it was supposed to. It, much like the senate, exists to stop a few major centers of population from dominating all of politics.
Now both of you fuck off, this is not 40k. You want to talk about politics and elections, then talk about how the high lords are chosen or some shit.

>>56869314
Oh woops, I was reading the wargear bit for the sergeant.

The Red Thirst makes them reasonable against anything up to T7 (+1 to wound is godly).

>>56869391
He's been writing space-elves since 2e.

>>56864081
Bless you, scan bro. You are truly doing the Emperor’s work. For Sanguinius and the Emperor!

>>56869405

4 shots. 6 if buffed by Fireblade and within half range (9").

>>56869337
In the audio book where Azrael fights Kharn the greater demon that was manipulating them gloated to Azrael about how he had spoken lies to him through Luther.
Azrael then reveals Luther told him as much along with his true name so I'd say Azrael has a list of the buggers likely to be possessing Luther at any one time

>>56869482
Never said it malfunctioned?
Why are you trumpfags so incapable of reading?

>>56869434
nah AC says they heated the tories and wanted to forget about them

>>56869520
Thought so, thanks.

>>56868871
You summon plague bearers to get past that anon

>>56869536
>>>/pol/
>>>/reddit/

>>56869437
>implying how it worked to let him win wasn't the tragedy
>functional, stable, and consistent rule of law directly prevents rule-by-demos
>somehow bad

Hows this for a universal stratagem that can counter first turn advantage.

>Weather the storm [1 CP]
>you may move as if it were the movement phase (you cannot advance), you may also cast pyschic abilities at if it were the pyschic phase (any wounds lost are ignored)

>>56868676
Sounds pretty cool, honestly.

>>56869441
>>56869444
interdasting
thanks for clarification anons

>>56869598
Fucking terrible, kill yourself.

Fifteen hours is the best guard book.

>>56869371
Nah, I suspect it has something to do with the GK players having cheesy lists.
Everyone else is either pretty good or generally laid back.

>>56869593
When it let him in? Yeah. It was bad.

What are some good beastmen to port over that aren't Tzaangors?

>>56869536
You implied that it was a problem, which the most retarded thing ever.
the college is a fail safe for multiple things, one of them being a few major population centers dominating the country. With the college you need a minimum of 11 states to win. pure democracy requires only 8 and one half of north carolina. The system is set up so that all the states are important, not just a major few. Basic fucking civics, and disagreeing with it because your candidate didn't win is idiotic.
>Why are you trumpfags so incapable of reading?
I'm an aussie m8, I give no fucks about which of the two cunts you mutts had to choose from. I'm just not a retard who doesn't understand the importance of the system like you do

>>56869629
>GKs
>cheesy lists
U wot mate?

>>56869620
Dead Men Walking is better.

>>56869617
You too.

What don't you like.

>>56869567
then I don't have 3 troops to get a battalion, and have to have a character hold still.

Or I can just take pox walkers.
At T4, with rerolling 1's for DR, they're real annoying to shoot off with anti-infantry weapons. I don't expect them to be immortal, just last a couple of turns.

>>56869631
None. More Tzaangors for thousand sons so no one will take any marines ever

>>56869654
A whole additional movement phase and psychic phase for 1CP.

>>56869666
But I want beastmen for a chaos army that isn't Thousand Sons.

>>56869643
An entire army of Interceptors armed with Hammers is a fucking menace. That kind of cheese.

>>56869663
They will last one turn typically, they are retardly squishy, and taking a typhus for them is kind of waste.

>>56869630
>The candidate I didn't like won so the whole system is bad

>>56869535
so what we're saying is that it's possible that Luther just nipped out to get a pint of milk but then a keeper of secrets hijacked his body to go visit the local Dark Angels "gym"

>>56869683
If you don't go first? Sounds incredibly balanced.

>>56869555
I don't really care either way, as long as they make enjoyable content. I'll buy a full blown Social Justice: The Game from a patreon begging whore, if it's a good game. The moment you have to moralize your likes and dislikes, is when you lose the plot. That's what the extremes are going.

>>56868283
Beasts of Nurgle don't work in a Death Guard detachment because of keyword fuckery, and a Lord of Contagion is bad, and then double bad because he's redundant with Typhus who is a LoC+++.

Replace LoC with either a Chaos Lord or Daemon Prince, and replace the Beasts so they don't make you lose out on your legion bonus. Other than that it's ok.

Oh and if you found space for another HQ you could make an Outrider detachment out of all those fast attack choices for a bonus CP.

>>56869639
Given what he has done and is working on in the future, it's bad that he got in.

>>56869715
When it's this bad? Yeah. It's not good

>>56869630
The point of consistency is that sometimes getting results that you don't want, but despite that the stability you create by allowing that to happen creates an environment where good outcomes are more likely in the long-run. Don't let your frustration over a president who probably won't even crack the top-10 worst list break you of your belief in the legitimacy of the system that has, so far, allowed this country to survive longer than any other modern republic/democracy. You can respond to this if you want, but I've said my peace and won't respond back for the sake of the thread.

>>56869710

QQ I think there's worse cheese. What do you run?

>>56869740
Oh yeah, truly the world has ended because of it. Oh wait, no it hasn't. Most people have gone about there daily lives and been only minorly affected by it, because the president doesn't have nearly as much power as you think he does, because he's not a fucking king you cunt.
But please, do carry on like so many major changes have happened and the world is coming to an end, but please do it some where appropriate, like say
>>>/pol/

>>56869598
What does the movement really change that cant be accomplished by proper deployment?

Why ignore wounds lost?

Should also only be usable at the start of the game if this is the intended usage.

>>56869712
>typhus
>2 psykic powers+lord of contagion
not seeing the waste here.

As for 1 turn, if they are shooting their entire army at it. Doing 30+wounds against t4, with no multiple damage, and hell a 6+ save because cover from the haulers. If they do, mission success.

Or I can give up 2Cp because I don't get the batttalion, have to hold a character back to summon. In return, I get the same unit with a 5+ invuln save but can suffer from moral so if they take 10 wounds still die.

>>56869787
There goes the whole not reading thing again.

>>56867592
Finished painting? Or started? If its what I started, than I'm a Skitarii Ranger. If I stay out of range, I might be able to take my Dominus down, due to my WL having lower range than my rifle. If its what I finished, than its another Dominus who has longer ranged weapons.

>>56869780
I'm the Ork Freeboota whose dudes looted ALL of the booze from the Konor system during the fate of the Konor campaign.

Haven't gotten a chance to face either army yet, though I did fight the Custodes plus Bobby G army of one of the GK player's friends. I lost, but it was entertaining all the same. Just watched what they've done to other players.

Doesn't help that there's a large chunk of Chaos players in the store.

>>56869710

That's fucking slaw. It's cheese if you play the fucking bads.

This thread is such a disappointment.
I'll see you all when the yanks go back to sleep.

>>56869796
Ignores so you can't use smite and similar abilities.
Move just so you can get back in better cover or better positioning.

Generally this is so first turn is treated more like this is a typical turn after another turn. You can bypas a shit ton of stuff that an army might normally setup with first turn advantage.

And yeah it was intended to be before first turn and before battle but I was focused on lawyering the rest that I forgot.

>>56869738
on that we can agree, I just get a bit miffed when we have people doomsaying about the hobby going in whatever direction because of left wingers. It's bollocks, the game we love has been developed bunch of red-flag waving feminists from the very beginning so I doubt the existence of a few rainbow haired queers in the community is going to radically affect the opinions of the developers

>>56869921
Euro buddy don't be so down all the time.

>>56869945
I think it's bullshit too, but it happened before with everything else. Like you give an inch and they just keeeeeep fucking taking.

>>56869731

>okay we rolled off and I won, you deployed pretty out in the open man you hoping for the big seize?
>haha yeah hope I get it!
*Rolls a 3*
>aww thats a shame buddy, you gonna CP reroll?
>Nah
>Okay my turn 1 then...
>Wait! 1cp I get to move everything
>What?
*Hides Everything out of line of sight*
>okay now I'm gonna cast all my defensive spells like conceal and fortune

How would you feel?

>>56868897
>the sky sure fell...liberal hysterics
lol, you got that from "trump sucks" ?
go back to /pol with your tin cap and budweiser

>>56869921
It's either this or 1post/3minutes like it is at 3-4am EST. I'd prefer the shitshow to noshow.

>>56869945
>has been developed bunch of red-flag waving feminists from the very beginning

Has it? It never really came across like that. They weren't afraid to do "male only" factions or put boobs on things.

I wouldn't worry about it, if they didn't do things like switch Vossies from male only to gender neutral. It might be nothing, but these days you really don't know.