/tg/ - Traditional Games

All the Deathwatch talk last thread made me wonder why there's no good Co-op Deathwatch vidya yet.

>>56814867
toxicrene is really good at killing vehicles, big brain bug is shit.

> Grabbed Dark Crusade on sale
> Never played a DoW game or Strategy game before
> Decide I should do some learnin before I jump in
> This tutorial might just be the most boring thing I've ever seen

How fucked am I if I just skip it?

>creating a new thread when we're on page 6
Oh well, nth for da boyz(female)

>>56815277
>no XCOM style Deathwatch game where you customize and advance your squad

>>56815284
Its a generic RTS, just skip it you dolt.

Exodites when?

Made a Land Raider Ares for open play. Thoughts?

>>56815284
Skip it, its easy as fuck anyway, just click who you want to move then click where you want them to go/shoot.

>>56815284
wrong Board go to >>vg or >>V for those questions

This really activates my Almonds. Why would Corbulo still be looking for a cure to the Flaw if they wont be making any more of the tainted marinelets?

>>56815246

>>56815298
I just want Space Marine 2 with dungeon crawling.

>>56815305
Thats a sexy fuckin land raider bruh

>>56815305
9/10 would loot

>>56815311
To cure the special characters before they get turned into chad marines

What’s a fluffy Iron Warriors army look like?

>>56815277
That would probably compete for the same niche as Space Hulk.

Gaunt's Ghosts Warmaster anyone?

>>56815339
a pile of corpses who killed themselves in a fit of autism

Let’s build a Christmas list! What do we put in it and what do we paint them as?

>Vostroyan Nutcrackers

>>56815339
Chaos Lord, renegade basilisks, and hoards of cultists.

>>56815305
Das cool mane
How'd you do it?

What's the best bit of "good" grimdark in 40k? As in, not pointless "blood and gore and dead babies" for the hell of it, but "makes sense in the context of the fucked up universe" way.

>>56815289
wouldn't it be Da Goylz?

>>56815311
but the ones going ballistic are primaries isn't it?
that just means the whole "free of RT" was bullcrap and something inherent of the BA geneseed as Cawl predicted

>>56815311
Because why have one batch of marines from one source like cloning pods or conventional recruitment, when you can have marines from both conventional recruitment AND cloning pods? Double the marines!

>>56815284
Well, if you've never played an RTS game before...

ZOG IT! Just go in blind and play it by ear. Tell us how you did when you're done too!

>>56815319
Oh god yes.

>>56815359
Any vindicators? Or any Obliterators?

>>56815345
I keep my eye on Space Hulk but currently the gameplay just seems so slow. And I don't like Dark Angels or the fact that hacking is a skill either.

I just want to run around committing extreme guerrilla warfare against various Xenos Races.

>>56815369
Pretty much anything in Guy Haley’s Baneblade series. But that’s my opinion.

>>56815298
http://store.steampowered.com/app/394450/Warhammer_40000_Deathwatch__Enhanced_Edition/

>>56815369
the black rage

>>56815319
Do we know if another company has the rights to Space Marine?

>>56815394
If i do remember correctly during the Blood Angels stream. The Lore guy mentioned that Dante is increasing production of Scouts and that scouts are going towards both Manlets and Chads.

>>56815377
Orks aren't jews so no.

>>56815420
Who do you think produced DoW3?

Okay guys, I need some ideas for acolytes. If you have them post them?

>>56815437
Has it gotten any better with the modding community starting to come in or not?

>>56815405
Hordes of infantry and cultists backed up vindicators, daemon engines and obliterators.

A slow, grinding advance up the table leade by infantry, followed by seige guns.

>>56815246
I understood it so, that any enemy character with 10 or more wounds by default (aka, at the beginning of the game) can be targeted, it doesn't change it, if he is hurt or not

the whole shit about being visible or not, that should be scrapped tough

>>56815455
I played like 15 minutes and hated it. I dunno.

>>56815369
the ending of Death of Integrity felt to me as the type of grimdark that the franchise is always advocating

The Novamarines/Blood drinkers manage to escape alongside 2 magi that were with them, but several honor guard guys from both chapters die, the DAoT ship they find escapes and laughs at them for being impotent against chaos, the chapter master of the BD goes black rage and mutates as he denies Kairos' offer, finally the MC's teacher/parental figure dies starting the engines thus allowing the ship to escape, then when he finds out the magos knew of the AI he tries to kill him but it's stopped because they manage to get a ton of STCs and are hailed heroes, so gets so depressed for his failure that he goes on a penitent crusade and is never seen again despite being the primary candidate for next chapter master

the entire thing felt so bittersweet that it truly felt like the grimdarkness

>>56815455
Nope.
DoW 3 is also total abandonware.

Am I fluff enough lads?

>>56815468
I think it’s suppose to be charactistic. It’s too scary to have a Hive tyrant or some other massive creature get so close.

>>56815455
I bought it on sale recently, played through the whole campaign and some vs AI matches.
It feels... bad but i cant really say why. I just get this empty feeling when playing it, its got so soul.

>>56815455
It's decent, but the multiplayer still needs a lot more work from the game dev end (the fact they're letting the modding community tinker with it instead of being assholes about mods is a good sign).

>>56815510
Get some Plasma, Melta, and Fists in those Crusader squads. You’re hamstringing yourself otherwise.

>>56815468
>>56815512
We're assuming its full of typos/mistakes and are not going to play with it until the FAQ but yes, it no longer says wounds characteristics, just wounds.
Other rules that just say "wounds" refers to wounds remaining but I cant believe this isn't an error.

>>56815548
Noted - thanks

Small question, can apothecaries revive characters?

>>56815454
I kitbashed mine from the DV cultists, spare SM weapon bits, and lots of filing and greenstuff. They work pretty well for acolytes.

>>56815369
The res thirst/black rage

The Lamenters at Slaughterhouse 3 (I think is the name of the planet). Orks have taken over the planet and the Lamenters must exterminate the xenos. In doing so they desperately try to save the human populace. Eventually the civilians realize none of them will escape if the space marines keep trying to save them, so the humans will fly stay behind while the lamenters retreat to orbit and exterminate the planet.

The orks are repelled and the Lamenters are lauded as heroes, until Malakim Phoros rejects the accolades, citing the mission as a fail and almost being branded heretics

>>56815566
If you have to cut down some squads by 5 that’s fine, as you’ll want to buff everyone else with weapons. Plenty of special weapons and the like. Make sure those Lieutenants gets fists or swords and that you sprinkle fists and Melta/plasma into the Crusader Squads. Maybe see about another apothecary too.

>>56815603
Is the character's squad targetable?fucking hell, Celestine can.

What are you gonna ask ABD /tg/?
https://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer40k/comments/7hpgp1/ama_announcement_aaron_dembskibowden_black/

>>56815369
How the imperium treats psykers. It's grimdark as fuck, but when they could become a portal for daemons at any moment it's the only reasonable way to treat them.

>>56815621
I'm trying to build something choppy enough to be fluffy that doesn't involve using a bloody stormraven/land raider to get into charge range. Thought a big pile of troops would give units enough chaff to close the distance. Helpful feedback, thanks again.

>>56815646
What's he getting his parents for Christmas.

>>56815309
faggot

>>56815368
It's a Landraider Redeemer with an extra heavy flamer on each side, and the front end of a Vindicator (gun and shield) in place of the normal assault ramp. It's a nice, fairly simple conversion.

>>56815663
Perfect. There’s nothing wrong with an LRC as the Templars were the ones to design it, but going with chunky squads is always good. If you have to, cut some squads down by 2-3 all around then and have the characters run with them. Load up on fists and special weapons and call it a day as you wreck face.

>>56815603
If the characters are in a squad with no other wounded models, then yes. But they come back with just one wound.

>>56815642
Apothecaries only heal Chapter infantry.

Would this be an alright list in a 2k point casual game? I fucking suck at writing lists

Considering the unit cost, which is better at 1500 points:
>a battalion detachment in which you take all your units
>a battalion detachment where you take your soldiers, flyer detachment for flyer and vanguard detachment for your elites plus HQ officers in all the detachments

Unless I'm missing something there's no drawback to taking multiple detachments other than the buy in costs for all the mandatory slots ? All you get from this is more slots and command points.

>>56815510
>fluffy
>0 Sword Brothers

>>56815246
OMG Anon used my shitty image for OP i am honored.

>>56815728
Thats why 8th edition FoC is fucking dumb, you spam as many detachments as possible for maximum cp

>>56815727
If it's a casual game then diversify your units a bit.

Does creating Poxwalkers with pic-related above the squad limit cost reinforcement points?

>>56815758
no

>>56815735
>STEAMLINED

>>56815734
Already got enough of them in my other list which has a (FUCKING) Stormraven in. Trying something different and gotta save points somewhere old chap.

>>56815756
What do you mean?

>>56815734
I'm pretty sure templars are pretty much a normal chapter now they got almost wiped out and replaced after the storm of chaos thing with guilliman.

Cant they use librarians now?

>>56815758
I hope not.

>>56815728
All those HQs aren't cheap.

>>56815772
What the fuck are you smoking anon?

>>56815772
BT Librarians? No such thing.
>Abhor the Witch, motherfucker

>>56815769
what if i tell you its intentional?

>>56815767
>>56815779
Fucking yes. I hope people are ready for a fucking Poxman Apocalypse.

>>56815319
Shadow of War crossed with Space Hulk Deathwing

>>56815772
It's not an ability they lost, its a choice they stand by.

>>56815772
That was a single Crusade; meaning not even 1/10th of the Chapter.

Does anybody have any good sources or books that reference the Craftworld: Il-Kaithe?

>>56815350
No, but here's Rise of the Ynnari!

>>56815804
That’s only if everyone around your poxwalkers die first. Anyone smart enough would shoot them before they got too close and to make sure the units around them don’t add to their numbers.

as a question how does the grey knight codex hold up against chaos anything armies?
I see alot of people say their bad without proper reasons but how do they fair against what they were made to deal with?

>>56815792
As a BT player I'm totally cool with never having access to librarians.

I just wish we got something in their place. Currently BT is just a normal chapter minus Librarians.

>>56815868
What if I told you there is a stratagem to help with that also? The Poxman Apocalypse is happening and you can't stop it now.

>>56815792
>Hips for days
Pretty sure thats a female space marine

>>56815771
Beside your characters is a 2 unit spam list with no AA unless the Knights get into combat with the vehicles. Also your scouts have no transports or long range weapons so they're mostly stuck after they infiltrate. Take some rhinos or wait for the codex to get land speeders storm.

>>56815910
I have met some guys who have some nice hips anon.

>>56815908
Please tell me how the dead plan to march.

Thoughts on GSC? They’re by no means anywhere near top tier, but their models are Chad AF. Patriarch is probably my favourite model around.

>>56815910
It's just some heretically good fan art.

>>56815905
>I just wish we got something in their place.
It's called Crusader Squads.

>>56815864
>http://www21.zippyshare.com/v/drkPLYvW/file.html
in epub

So what does a good BA list look like?

Just spam Librarian dreads and Death Company?

>>56815350
In the old thread.

>>56815960
They're just Tac Squads that can take Neophytes.

>>56815931
Here's what I inteded with this list.
>deepstrike all my death wing
>throw the scouts on the table
>they sit in cover and shoot heavy bolters at whatever enemy has
>my knights come in and smash the shit out of anything t8 or lower and hunt characters with belial

It was meant to be a deathwing list but I needed some filler to be able to deepstrike the deathwing

>>56815977
Nigga do you appreciate how much firepower you can pack into a 5 model crusader squad?

>>56815952
I prefer the pouncing one from the space hulk game, but yeah, they have cool sculpts.

Are necrons HQs overpriced?
Lord don't have many uses as it's support abilities aren't that good as necrons are already ld 10, so only large squads of warriors actually enjoy the bonus but it's a waste to bring a lord along.
And the O-lord feels like a expensive SM Captain.

>>56815908
Not shooting your Poxwalkers or guys around them.

>spends 2cp to do nothing

>>56815990
Gonna suck if they have fliers.

>>56816017
No one local runs fliers

How many models would have to be in a unit to completely surrounded a Vehicle?

>>56815973
Can you link it? I went through the archive but still couldn't find it.

Can GSC take a titan? If so that’s cool as fuck

>>56815910
>implying that devotion to the Emperor and purging xenos doesn't give you great birthing hips

>>56815967
Throw in some Sanguinary Guard

>>56815967
Sanguinary. Axes wound T8 on a 4+, Banner boy gives them a 5+++ and rerolling 1's to wound. Pretty nasty

>>56815994
Just a sarge, special weapon, and heavy weapon.

Heavy weapon slows the rest of the unit down because all the choices are heavy.

Trooper getting a melee weapon option isn't really that great. Oh boy, a power weapon on a 1-attack model.

>>56815994
>1 special weapon
>1 heavy weapon
Different from tac squad how?

>>56816054
No, there are no Titans with Astra Militarum, they're a completely different branch of military. The biggest thing they can take is Baneblades.

>>56816093
You need to hit 10 in a tac squad to get both heavy and special weapons.

>>56816016
>implying there is anything else in range for you to shoot
>implying your options are not either to get fucked and waste your turn or to get fucked for the remainder of the game
>mfw

>>56816110
Still pretty cool

>>56815967
One big mob of sang, one big mob of dc. Warlord with jump pack relic and immunity to morale trait. Beyond that, get whatever you need to do to clear screens as efficiently as possible.

>>56816116
As a BT player, I had no idea. Thanks anon

>>56816134
Forgot to add that you should bring the Sanguinor. +1A for units in range matters a lot. He could make his points back on that aura alone.

>>56816122
Nigger all anyone has to do to counter that is shoot the poxwalkers directly after you activate the strat.

>>56815246
Give me one good reason that Cawl shouldn't be Fabricator General of mars. He is a friend to children, promotes progress and ressurected the Primarch SINGLE HANDEDLY (excluding false xeno-witch powers).

He is the hero the Imperium needs!

>>56815369
I kinda dig the Admech and how their "radical/puritan" spectrum actually makes sense. If you're too puritan you get nothing done and drive away allies, if you're too radical you might fuck yourself royally overreaching your abilities in the face of Chaos or Necrons or whatever. It's why I get a bit annoyed when people say they're all complete idiots who don't know how anything works, because that's like saying all Guard officers are Chenkov.

>>56816200
because he's a xeno worshipping heretek
we're all thinking it we're just too polite to say it

>>56816053
Sorry, i misled you.
Mixed up with
>56809675

>>56816200
He’s also a radical and seen as a borderline heretech by others in the Mechanicus. His promotion would cause a civil war.

>>56816053
Sorry, i misled you.
Mixed up with this one.
>>56809675

>>56816165
But you can't do that, anon! They just keep multiplying and coming over to grab your ass!

>>56815758
>add one model to the unit
>doesn't specify what kind of model
>mfw turning dead gaunts into baneblades by the power of nurgle

>>56816248
It's "heretek"

>>56815246
Haven't been involved in 40k for about ten years here, just picked up a squad of Death Korps Grenadiers and thinking of getting into small scale games... like 250-500pts, iirc I used to play under "skirmish" rules but it's been a long time.

Does anyone do that anymore? From a brief perusal of the GW website, Bell of Lost Souls, etc, it seems like the hobby has largely moved into large-scale 2000+pt games with Baneblades and titans etc.

Is inquisitor something that's still played?

Picture semi-related but not mine.

>>56816200
Cawl for General?
http://www.strawpoll.me/14570453/r

>>56816203
Seeing as how the guard offensive on the tau was just drive forward, they might as well be.

>Iron Warriors warband stranded in bitter chaos vs chaos battle
>fall to nurgle to survive
>use lots of nurgle daemon vehicles

Sounds cool?

>>56816266
They can't multiply if you shoot poxwalkers

>>56816200
His only feat is how we managed to not be purged and turned into servitor for being a heretek.

>>56816269
It does say on the poxman profile, but I like the way you think.

>>56816293
I like it. They have bare minimum worshiping to take full advantage of nurgle's sturdiness.

>>56816264
No problem bro, it happens. It was out (Warmaster) since 2014, but besides bl it's not available anywhere which is really strange.

>>56815680
Sure am whats the point

>>56816311
poxman profile rule is replaced though! The power of Nurgle has no limits!!!!!!!

>>56816016
>or guys around them.
20 pox walkers can cover a lot of ground.

That said, that strat is a lot better using the walkers as the unit in front of 20 plague marines with full upgrades.

>>56816284
There'd be a schism almost instantly, and then Titans walk and worlds burn, so can't vote for that. I do like him, though.

On a side note, I would watch and/or read the fuck out of a West Wing/House of Cards style 40k politics series if they kept it to one season or a couple books to stop it getting boring. Might just be me being weird, but I actually really liked the High Lord maneuvering sections of The Emperor's Legion and the Martian politics in Mechanicum, and there's your A and B plots with frequent interconnection right there.

>>56816165
So you use Cloud of Flies so they can't be shot, surround them with Cultists, and hide the Poxies on turn 1. Holy fuck I forgot how bad /tg/ is at 40k

>>56816383
>this guy doesn't know 100% of things about every codex

LMAO SO DUMB

xD

>t. you

>>56816364
MOST PLAYTESTED EDITION EVER!

>>56816222
He's not worshiping anything; he's simply observing how xeno-tech functions and than replicating that for Imperial use.

>>56816248
The only "hereteks" I know are those who deny the truth and obstruct the Quest for Knowledge. They will be the first to go on the day of the data-rope.

>>56816297
And building Primaris Marines.
And building Hover Tanks.
And saving Robby G's life
And saving Celestine and Greyfax

>>56816383
Then your opponent ignores your two units of useless chaff and shoots all your actual threatening shit off the board.

>>56816284
Can't stall the Cawl. Somehow one of his many many copies has found a way to make his chassis cheaper according to Chapter Approved.

Do you think there's multiple "Main Cawl" bodies in his gestalt? Would go a little way towards justifying why he shows up so often in Admech armies.

>>56816200
Because he is actually a xenos (specifically an ancient Ork Oddboy) behind all those cybernetics. His voice modulator's just tuned so it sounds like he's speaking like a normal human!

...Oh my Emperor, Guilliman's working with a xeno-witch AND a xenos-scientist.

THAT'S DOUBLE HERESY!!

>>56815311
look at the last two sentences, Corbulo discoverd some dark shot about our beloved Chadmarines

>>56816403
>Retard who criticizes strategy without knowing the rules

The saga continues.

>>56816403
You are bad and shout feel bad, retarded scrub.

Post perfect models.

>>56816410
Then your massive blob of shit secures objectives, clogs the board, and eventually has to be dealt with as you can add Typhus to the mix with Blades of Putrefaction and Putrescent Vitality.

You really seem to not want this anon to use the Poxblob strat, did you get btfo by it last week?

>>56816421
You know, I don't think humans could ever get as tall as A primarch.. Maybe HE'S a Xeno as well!

What's everyone working on tonight? My Oyumaru arrived so I'm practicing making moulds for my next project.

>>56816448
Also Iron Warriors are retards for having

>Warsmith
>Warpsmith

As two important and central figures in their leadership hierarchy. I can imagine a simple typo or glitch in some crappy vox machine would lead to a lot of crap.

>>56816448
Best modell coming though ( if it werent resin )

>>56816422
Yea but this shows more just Red Thirst level of things. uncontrolled levels of Red Thirst.

>>56816453
>20 models
>massive blob of shit

Anon 20 models can be wiped off the board in one round of shooting or close combat from one of my units.

>>56816453
>>56816410
Doesn't matter! None of you can stop the Poxman Apocalypse anymore!

>>56816448

>>56816498
ITS SHIIITT

>>56816474
They can't be shot at from Cloud of Flies and are surrounded by two squads of 25+ man Cultist squads. The Cultists are from a CSM Patrol for Tide of Traitors. The Pox have The Dead Walk Again on them.

Go ahead, shoot the Cultists.

>>56816404
gods that looks bad wtf even is that

>>56816495
>the Apoxalypse

>>56816498
Who buys this crap?

>>56816472
Man the old Blood Angels models are really tiny compared to the new Primaris stuff.

>>56816498
the wings look like shit, she should wear armor, its resin and her sword doesnt match her outfit

great bait, i almost belived that you honestly think that this model is the best

>>56816448
Literal Perfection.

>>56816456
And what is the only Xenos humanity knows of that gets grows anywhere near Primarch size?

THOSE-THRONE DAMNED GREENSKINS, THAT'S WHO!

[Seriously, go ask Commissar Yarrick what it was like meeting Ghazghkull Mag Uruk Thraka face-to-face. An Ork growing that to Cawl's size isn't that unusual at all]

>>56816527
lmao make him smaller like the primaris was a knight or something

>>56816514
>I don't

Wow you wasted 2cp and did nothing.

Made a 2,000 point Imperial Fist list to use this Friday against some new Nids. Thoughts?

>>56816527
yeah, but that makes him even better, everyone knows that dwarfs are fierce fighters

>>56816524
Perverts
I should know the local Sisters player has one and oggles it every chance he can

>>56816544
looks good to me, but do you really want to use FW against a new tyranid player ?

>>56816544
Don't post as pdf. Save it as an image.

>>56816559
He's been playing Nids for five years, only he's using the new Nid codex.

>>56816527
>>56816545

Sorry, fixed that.

>>56816514
I wait until turn 3 when you're out of CP from spending 2 every turn and then murder them all in one round.

>>56816519
>the Pox-Eclipse

>>56816570
perfection

>>56816564

>>56816568
oh, okay my bad, go on then
I hope you two have a lot of fun and dont forget make some pictures for us

So a Stormraven is basically a flying Land Raider. How would it be painted when transporting Terminators: black or white ?

>>56816585
Depends on chapter you tit.

>>56816134
I dont know about this idea Anon. You are going to be spending at the minimum 914 points on this configuration. If you fill the rest with stuff to kill chaff it will probably be more effective to just replace those 2 squads with more guns. since they will most likely wont make your points back on them as assault units.

>>56816585
That's an ugly paintjob anon

>>56816570
Chadmarines now count as dedicated transports

>>56816448

>>56815990
Your list sounds boring AF, not to mention mobility being a glaring weakness. Plus I'm pretty sure you don't even get any command points at all

Shut up Ben, you absolute fucking fedora

>>56816571
You're telling me your lists don't have at least 9CP?

>>56816448
I've always liked this model despite it's age.

>>56816585
depends, if it just transports them occasionally , then is would be black, but if it is their dedicated stormraven then i would paint it white

>>56816622
Mine do, yours won't because you're running a fucking Patrol detachment lol

>>56816598
>dark angels in the photo
>durrr, depends on what chapter

>>56816617

>>56816626
I was torn between BT or DA, mainly because of this absolute fantastical model.
I might still get one to paint it purely for pleasure, but I would love to find some use for this bad boy on the tabletop.

>>56816295
Cloud of Flies stratagem. No bully Poxwalkers for a phase.

>>56816612
>le tittays xD XDDDDDDDDDDD

>>56816585

>>56816612
Correct

>>56816622
I play Thousand Sons, and I tend to only have 7 CP (usually a Battalion and a Vanguard).

>>56816638
>not green
>not mentioning DW in the fucking text
>BLACK AS IN RW OR BONE WHITE AS IN DW

durrr you retard. Also give some highlights and shades to that shit.

>>56816644
I use mine as a generic Captain for MyDudes^tm

Is there any real use of Baal predaror?

>>56816634
>Doesn't run 2 Batallions
Holy fuck do you actually think you need a Brigade for 9+CP?
Or are you an autist who can only use one big detachment because it's "fair"?

>>56816671
go fast with stratagem

>>56816671
Flamestorm cannon and 2 flamers.

>>56816671
It can be converted into Hellforged Predator.

>>56816409
>And building Primaris Marines.
Abominations no better that Fabilous Bill's creations

>And building Hover Tanks.
Doesn't count as "building" when he stole all the Grav Land Raiders to refurbish into Repulsors

>And saving Robby G's life
Guilliman was healing on his own

>And saving Celestine and Greyfax
Saving a Daemon and a Mutant

>>56815305
>open play

>>56816671
tripple flamer is fun
dakka predator is fun, too, even if there are cheaper options for the same fire output

>>56816421
>Because he is actually a xenos (specifically an ancient Ork Oddboy)

Cawl is Orkimedes.

>>56816669
>dark angels are only green
>not black for ravenwing or white for deathwing as well
>DURRR NOT OBVIOUS ENOUGH

Also, it's not mine.

>>56816724

>>56816276
You might like Shadow War or Necromunda.

>>56816663
Add a Batallion of Tzeench Daemons or just Chaos Marines. They're cheap to fill out and give you screens and buffs plus access to Codex strats

>>56815305
Love it, wish they didn't half ass the actual LR creation rules and made them available for all types of play. Sadly since almost nobody plays open play the vehicle creation rules won't get much traction and won't get expanded.

>>56816745

So how much do y'all think the Ravenwing Talonmasters are gonna cost? Seems like an ungodly amount of dakka. Plus Grim Resolve kind of invalidates footslog Company Masters.

Anyway I knew I'd regret buying those models before the codex came out.

>>56816789
He's right you know.

>>56816527
when GW released Primaris marines they also released squats

I need something to read. Any suggestions on Admech books?

>>56816789
A true American hero

>>56816755
It's usually a mixed battalion of Tzeentch Daemons/Thousand Sons and then a Vanguard of Chaos Space Marines.

>>56816820
Got a list?

>>56816813
Skitarii and Tech-Priest are good, Stroika is badass and Torquora is everything an Archmagos should be and lays some serious burns on Iron Warriors. Momentary idiocy when he destroys that STC at the end,
could have been useful even with the feedback problem but otherwise cool.

Mechanicum is sweet if you just want to see Darkmech demolishing everything in fine style, Titanicus is GOAT Admech book.

>>56816380
I actually think the High Lord part, especially that of the Fabricator General, hasn't been explored enough in books

>>56816448
The greatest.

>>56816886
Ironic that Tau auxiliaries are the best thing about the faction.

Do you eat fast food and greasy snacks and play and touch your minis?

>>56816901
Trust me... I know.

>>56816901
Makes sense, they're a bunch of blind communist weaklings afterall.

>>56816886
WHY DID THEY REMOVE THIS MODEL FROM THE FACTION. I did ask them for more Auxiliary support on the survey. I hope you did.

>>56816927
You have my pity Gue'la.

TALONS ARMYI NEED HQ LEAKS AND RELEASE DATE!!!

>>56816925
Yes but all the greasy food touches my left hand and my right hand only touches my models and dice.

>>56816927
For the Greater Good!

>>56816670
Huh. Since my good ol Company Master got recently promoted to Chapter Master I could give the vacant to an Unforgiven Emperors Champion (tm)

>>56816949
I don't even play Tau and I love the idea of some klingon/turian hybrids riding around on an Allosaurus

How the fuck is geedubs going to make daemons playable? With the current state of the game, I just don't see it happening. Especially for shit like Nettes.

>>56816054
No, the only way to do that is open play or playing a "Genestealer Cult" that uses the rules for regular guard (which would disqualify you from allying tyranids)

>>56815910
Fuck... You are right, she looks like a girl.

Did anyone ever try to make space marine chapter based on each country? I'm thinking of something like angry marines.

>>56816989
Femarines confirmed.

>>56816996
Sports teams make better badges.

>>56816989
Does each Chapter have a designated trap marine to keep morale high?

>>56816448

>>56816827
It's usually something like:
Ahriman
Changeling
1x5 Scarab Occult
3x10 Pink Horrors
1x Vindicator

Terminator Sorcerer
2x Helbrute
1x10 Rubric Marines
1x10 Cultists
1x Forgefiend

Sometimes more, sometimes less. Lately I've been throwing in a Chaos Lord to baby-sit my shooty stuff; reroll 1's is just too good to pass up on, and I'm not buying a Daemon Prince for twice the price. Sometimes Magnus comes in, replacing the Rubric Marines or the Scarab Occult.

>>56816612
I miss them.

>>56817033
>>56816448
and also this too bad it's resin

>>56817047
Grimgor?

>>56816956
>Talons
>Army
Pick one and only one. A pair of infantry units does not an entire faction make.

So DA are getting Stormraven - But I have a question, can it carry a redemptor dreadnought?

>>56817055
GW already showed they were getting an HQ on their page my guy

>>56817023
Can you believe that some people here don't have designated trap players at their stores? I feel bad for them. Ours is highly fuckable.

>>56817055
>SoS get grenade launchers in 30k
>you will never Deepstrike your dildo tank next to Magnus and shoot 10 psych-out grenades up his asshole
Why live

>>56817047
He riveted the hand plates to his fucking fingerbones?

>>56817051
Nah, just a FW model. Though Grimgor is another perfect Ork model.

>>56817006
Female primarch confirmed!

>>56817038
HAHAHAHAHA WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS LIST?!

Holy shit, thanks for the laugh, anon.

>>56817081
Lucky

Is this guy an “exalted Champion” now? I can’t find a model that matches the exalted champion rules

>>56817079
One HQ and two infantry units does not a faction make.

You'll probably be part of a big Imperial Agents books alongside Inquisition and Assassins. Maybe Sisters and Knights too.

>>56817096
nah, they're on top of gloves

>>56817100
More like a wasted single space mom.

>>56817064
The rules aren't out but I can almost guarantee that it won't.
You'll have to wait a while for the Primaris Meteoric Drop Pod which can either be built to carry 10 Primaris Marines (or 5 in gravis armour) or 1 Primaris Redemptor Dreadnought.
60 bucks.

>>56816585
everything here just screams NO

>>56817081
Come to think of it, we do have exactly one (((girl))) at our LGS...

>>56817097
SAY MY NAME

SAY
A
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MY
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NAME
A
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>>56817106
I'm not sure what's so humorous about that list. It's got some Thousand Sons infantry supported by daemons and tanks.

>>56817111
you can run them as their own army with that HQ, wouldn't be surprised if they had more up their sleeves

>>56816652
I count 25 terminators here. How many is there usually in Deathwing?

>>56816968
Fuck man have you ever looked at the number of races the T'au empire apparently have in their army? Aside from kroot and Vespid they have Psychic Bears,Dwarves, Humanoid frogs, and Dog like reptiloids. I'd love to see these get models and rules.

>>56816707
hello waac eldar

>>56817109
Just make one out of an Aspiring Champion or Chaos Lord.

>>56817064
Standard Marines can do so since it has the Dreadnought keyword.

>>56817079
>named character only
Fucking DROPPED

>>56817109
Yes, that's the exalted champ now.

How viable are Deathwatch?
All the options and character looks fun, but I can't really tell how they'd play on the table.

>>56817155
Just make a shield captain and run him with those rules

>>56817136
Instead GW are going to produce another ludicrously named, ludicrously overpointed mess of a battlesuit.

>>56817133
100

>>56817160
I love them lots but currently they are very overpriced and heavily underperofrm because of it.

I go into most games expecting to lose or tie, but have a shit ton of fun anyway because they're the most customizable and very space marine army around with fun rules.

>>56817111
Sisters'll get their own codex, they have their own Adepta Sororitas entry in CA instead of just being a part of Ministorum
They won't get it for a while though since, y'know, they were included in CA

>>56817097
Lastly, the Paunch himself. My favorite fantasy model as a kid.

>>56817107
Oh indeed.
>>56817125
What is she like?

>>56817100
I just realised i have "sloppy dressed girl" fetish...

>>56817141
Nah, just sad Deldar. My last open play game was against IG that included 120 conscripts, a vulture, and 3 special characters.

>>56817185
>GW still use the same wolf sculpts

>>56817136
They also have Khajite

>>56817176
If paired with stormtroopers or the like, would they become more competitive?

>>56817173
that must be a pretty damned important landing to be able to muster and fully dedicate 25% of your total elite terminator force there.

Alternatively this makes me think, rotation within deathwing must be pretty quick considering in each space hulk mission they get into at least one will get torn to shreds

>>56817193
oh sorry

>>56817038
How many points do you usually play? Magnus is auto include at even 1500 or less

>>56815437
Dow3 was the biggest rts disaster of the year.

>>56817160
Overpriced and could do with the elite characters of the SM codex, and some options are held back for no reason, but when you can get them into the right place they're lethal to the right kind of enemy.

>>56817195
GW really needs to get new sculpts for everything that hasn't been updated since before 2000. Going 20 years without new models is pretty inexcusable.

>>56817177
This
>>56817111
With the points changes and old relic return, the Cannoness is actually really solid now. For a measly 57pts, you get 4 WS2+ rerolling 1s S5 Ap-3 D3 attacks and a melta pistol sporting a 3+/4++ save.

>>56817119
>>56817153

I loaded up the Space Marine codex of using the index.

Says Redemptor cannot be carried.
However if we are given access to the contemtpor? Perhaps.

>>56817187
She runs the events at the store and refuses to play with an unpainted army.

>>56817210
Yup. There was literally nothing I could do.
>but it's fluffy!

>>56817172
I know, I dont like Battle suits anymore. I want a cool moving T'au army supported by Lizardmen

>>56817229
Their release schedule is abysmal. You get maybe one box release a week if you're lucky but the majority of releases are books. They need to start pumping stuff out faster, especially since they've apparently upgraded their infrastructure.

>>56817081
>be technically designated trap player in store
>just get called fag and bullied for refusing to play my Chaos Marines as anything but Emperor's Children
>everyone else switches subfaction traits between tournaments
I'm jealous of your stores designated trap anon

>>56817248
You still like them. That's why they keep making them.

>>56815864
love you, anon!

>>56816612
Based Juan Diaz

>>56817248
40k lizardmen army when?

>>56817256
have you tried opening your butt to them?

>>56817255
>especially since they've apparently upgraded their infrastructure.
Yeah, it's powered by all of Britain.

>>56817256
Maybe choose a csm faction that doesn't make you seem like a faggot. I've not met one EC player that wasn't an uncle touchy or some magical realm sperg

>>56817256
You let them do that to you? Meet them outside, beat the shit out of them, and grind their nuts with your heel. Make sure you light their minis on fire for good
measure.

>>56817229
So long as these guys never get changed

>>56817256
I wont bully you anon much ~<3

>>56817213
Might honestly have been the biggest RTS one ever. Built off a fairly loved and established series, advertised nice enough for a game...and then ded.

The only other thing I can remember that is similarish is Act of Aggression recently. RIP CnC.

>>56815246
I really hope they clarify that character targeting thing. I really like 8th, but those little bits really ruin it

>>56817204
Absolutely. FW units and Storm Troopers are the perfect additions.

Is the WH community Facebook picture lewd or is it just me?

>>56817313
just you

>>56817275
Work them into an Exodite codex maybe?

>>56817300
Stone trolls as a sculpt have aged really well. And so did the river trolls, I'm not sure why GW decided they needed a new model.

>>56817239
>refuses to play with an unpainted army.
excellent taste.

>>56817313
how us that indecent ?

>>56817256
>be my stores designated trap
>only play subtly converted Aelves (tm) as Adepta Sororitas (tm)
>forced to carry the Citadel Buttplug (tm) holding a Guilliman miniature up in my butt all the time
>If I win games they punch me in the belly
>If I lose they get "premium time" with me in the store owners' dungeon

>>56817276
No
>>56817281
I like my Noise Marines and purple, pink, black, and gold colour scheme though.
Also Lucius is fun when I run him.
>>56817297
Okay I say bullying but it's more good natured ribbing, everyone cops it, fat guy gets called fatass, store owner gets called Jew, store owner had bone cancer when he was younger and after he said a particularly bad pun someone said "god damn it I hope your cancer just relapses"
Besides even if they were singling me out and only calling me a fag, which I really don't care about, and I wanted to do something, everyone is bigger than me.

>>56817313
>>56817355
I'm trying to see the lewd and I can't

>>56817365
lucky

So when is AI Aun'va going crazy with disgust over meatbags and kicking off the next big civil war?

>>56817316
>>56817355
>>56817377
has a boob

>>56817365
>didn't (tm) Guilliman
Now you've done it, strait to the dungeon with you!

>>56817405
the ramblings of a madman

>>56817316
>>56817355
>>56817313

looks like a lionwing thing licking a dick

>>56817411
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1HqaEnwd8g

fuck off traps and trap enabling faggots, go hang in pfg or something fuk of

>>56817260
They are only good for being mobile anti-tank really. They are too expensive to be used as anything else. Just wish that a mobile gun line with Breachers and pathfinders was viable

>>56817275

Tfw this cover was what made me realised I loved space lizards

>>56817437
>doesn't have a store designated trap

>>56817422
what a weird thing I'm doing

Cultists or marines?

>>56817437
it's too late anon
also
>not proving your dominance by fucking anything that's feminine
what are you, gay?

>>56817316
I dunno, look how suggestively the eagle is spreading it's... *wings*.

>>56817211
Usually 1500, sometimes 1000 or 2000. I try to avoid Magnus because he generates a ton of salt regardless of how hard the list actually is or whether I win or not. The FLGS is pretty all over in terms of competitiveness, so I usually just bring two copies of every point bracket and pick one based on my opponent.

>>56817471
get a life

>>56817437
I would honestly be uncomfortable around a crossdressing man or a transvestite in small space like a store. Must be really award for the people that have those at their clubs/LGS.
I'm married and have children so it isn't just because it's a woman nearby.

>>56817256
Don't get bullied! Our designated trap trans takes no shit. She's become the bully. She's started wearing heels so she's towering above all the manlets and telling them the army they play is for punks. You're not a punk anon so stop acting like it!

>>56817471
Are you mental?

>>56817481
Cultists for troops. Marines for HQ/Elites.

>>56817459
Truly shameful display from that Anon.

>>56817509
>Must be really award for the people that have those at their clubs/LGS.
Man you said it!

>>56817481
Cultists. Marines are just too mediocre. If you really want power-armoured bodies, either paint them up as Plague Marines/Noise Marines/Berzerkers, or just run them as Havocs.

>>56817535
fugg :DDD

>>56817339
I want to see a T'au vs Exodite fight. Since it would be great seeing them getting their ass kicked by primative back water Eldar. Aren't the planets alive with like the souls of the dead exodites? The fucking planet starts kicking the T'au's ass.

>>56817525
No, he's a Dark Angels player. Isn't it obvious?

>>56817514
I mean I bully back, like I told other anon it is really just good natured ribbing.
We swear and call each other the worst insults, helps that there's no kids who play in our store I guess.
also getting bullied for looking like a girl is kind of hot
like when someone said the girls should leave and said "you too" when I didn't get up

>>56817550
Plus they ride dinosaurs. Battlesuit vs T Rex when?

>>56817177
They can be their own faction but still be part of a larger "Imperium Potpourri" Codex. They did it in 7E, and it's not like they've increased the Sisters line significantly since then.

>>56817509
You cant tell with many of us, we pass pretty well.

I mean aside from playing 40k.

>>56817561
how is that a bad thing if you consider yourself a girl anyway?

>>56817570
I don't know how you delude yourself but, all the traps I've seen IRL have manhands, a deep voice, adams apple or other dead giveaways.

>>56817570
>You cant tell with many of us, we pass pretty well.
Bullshit.
>>56817509
It's only weird if they make it weird. Maybe I'm just slightly autistic, but I care far more about whether my opponent has a solid grasp of the rules and a painted army than if they're a degenerate.

>>56817509
Sounds a lot like my bulgarian friend who would feel uncomfortable watching two guys kissing.

I don't get it, it's not like you have to do it yourself if you don't want to. Do you?

>tfw our designated store trap flirts with everyone but me

>>56817580
I acted indignant but I kind of liked it.
I don't crossdress in public and I'm not a tranny though, so it caught me off guard.

>>56817591
I think one of the problems is that their self-image actualizes when they're still teens, so they never really realize just how much testosterone has ravaged their bodies. Plus, they wildly underestimate how much attention men pay to a woman's body.

>>56816404
They really shouldnt rely on their playerbase not being rules-lawyering power-gaming pricks

>>56817614
>tfw my store doesn't have a designated trap

>>56817591
Can confirm this, but can also add hair type and certain facial features. /v/ taught me how tell things apart pretty well.

>>56817592
> I care far more about whether my opponent has a solid grasp of the rules and a painted army
This is fair to say and really all that matters with warhammer40k.

Fulgrim is kinda fucking gay to be honest

>>56817541
Not even if I just run them as a sneaky squad of 5 with two plasmas?

>>56816517
Nurglized baneblade from the looks of it, best nurgle baneblade I saw was a guy who put three barrels on it so everything he shot would have the mark of nurgle in it.

Rail Rifle option for Fire Warrior squads when?

>>56817637
>tfw my store doesn't have a designated trap

>>56817643
>he thinks Fulgrim restricts himself to have sex with only his own gender
>or species for that matter
top kek

>>56816498
Even the clothed version is shit. I cant stress how I hate those cheesy female models with huge boobs and weirdly thin waists in power armour.

>>56817643
DELET

>>56816404
hol up hol up hol up.

If we're going maximum rules lawyer... Where in the rule book does it say the baneblade is a 'model'?

>>56817612
Technically, it is the natural reaction. Thankfully I don't see it very often while playing 40k.

>>56817637
Shit anon, that sucks, sorry.

a good idea for a nids 1000k army against demons od nurgle and deathguard

>>56817657
>"Gee Shas'la B'il, how come the Shas'O lets you have two bonding knives?"

>>56817646
That's the least terrible way to run them, but you might as well paint them green and throw a third Plasma Gun in there then.

Pic related is a shit list I'm using on Saturday to fight some nerd at my FLGS.

It'll be my first game since 5th edition.

What Hive Fleet should I use?

I'm thinking Leviathan, since pretty much everything in my army should be in Synapse most of the time.

Either that or Kraken.

What do you think /40kg/?

>>56817680
Genestealers and Biovores.