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>> No.56321933
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First for sisters a cute

>> No.56321942

Every herald of khorne in each circle commands 8 in the circle below them through the 88 circles of heralds of khorne, and so on, and each of the heralds commands 888 bloodletters .
How many heralds and bloodletters would that be?

>> No.56321956

I'm going to go buy two boxes of zoanathropes in the hopes theyre good in the codex, see ya!

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You win this thread war. I deleted the other one.

>> No.56321958


Based off figures in Khorne demonkin... It was a few years ago and I didn't note it down, but I think it calculated out as their being around 10 billion khorne daemons total.

>> No.56321979

thats 5001216 deamons from my count. not counting greaters or juggs. or hounds.

>> No.56321982

So there's 1 herald on top commanding 8 heralds and 888 bloodletters, and each herald also commands 8 heralds and 888 bloodletters, with a total of 88 circles? I will assume the top herald is in the only circle with 1 herald instead of 8.

Bloodletters = 888*heralds
Heralds - 8^0 + 8^1 ... + 8^87 = 8^88-1 = 29642774844752946028434172162224104410437116074403984394101141506025761187823615

>> No.56322002

OP can't spell codices, burn him.

>> No.56322008

I have 5 GKPAs that I can't decide if I want to build them as Purgators or Purifiers. Post that ends in 6 decides.

>> No.56322013

So... Twenty-Nine Quinvigintillion, Six Hundred Forty-Two Quattuorvigintillion, Seven Hundred Seventy-Four Trevigintillion, Eight Hundred Forty-Four Duovigintillion, Seven Hundred Fifty-Two Unvigintillion, Nine Hundred Forty-Six Vigintillion, Twenty-Eight Novemdecillion, Four Hundred Thirty-Four Octodecillion, One Hundred Seventy-Two Septendecillion, One Hundred Sixty-Two Sexdecillion, Two Hundred Twenty-Four Quindecillion, One Hundred Four Quattuordecillion, Four Hundred Ten Tredecillion, Four Hundred Thirty-Seven Duodecillion, One Hundred Sixteen Undecillion, Seventy-Four Decillion, Four Hundred Three Nonillion, Nine Hundred Eighty-Four Octillion, Three Hundred Ninety-Four Septillion, One Hundred One Sextillion, One Hundred Forty-One Quintillion, Five Hundred Six Quadrillion, Twenty-Five Trillion, Seven Hundred Sixty-One Billion, One Hundred Eighty-Seven Million, Eight Hundred Twenty-Three Thousand, Six Hundred Fifteen Heralds of Khorne

I don't think they can keep going with the theming of multiples of 8 beyond bloodthirsters

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>> No.56322029

Anyone with the Tyranid Codex in their hand wants to share the pics of every page of the rules?

>> No.56322033
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Purgators of course, motherfucker. Are you stupid?

>> No.56322047

That's the thing see, Purgators are better now but I like the fluff of Purifiers too much. Furthermore I have no clue what to equip said Purgators with. I already have one unit with psilencers and psycannons

>> No.56322069
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Almost finished the first squad for my new army. Just need to do the weathering powder, and that's it.

>> No.56322071

That's not how you math, anon. It's not an exponential growth.

>> No.56322081

Looking pretty solid, anon. But there's a massive moldline on the plasma gun.

>> No.56322083

We need Grot Snipers!
10-20, 2ppm, regular Grot statline
Hold a 0 ppm 20" S3 AP- D1 Sniper rifle
Get "Find the Best Spot" under a different name.

They die like lemmings and inflict lots of mortal wounds through sheer weight of dice if left untargeted!

>> No.56322085

>visible moldlines

>> No.56322089

Depends on how the circles are arranged. I was assuming every Herald except the 0th commands 8 Heralds, with each "level" of the tree as another circle.

A different arrangement would be of a different size.

>> No.56322090

What would the number be in that case?

>> No.56322093
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Tyranids are cuter.

>> No.56322094
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Cawl is getting excited

>> No.56322096

>smiley chapter symbol
Please tell me more about your nice looking dudes.

>> No.56322098

Hot damn that looks good!

>> No.56322108

How exactly are the Circles arranged?

>> No.56322117
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Did a head swap on the Tallyman.

Looks much better IMO.

>> No.56322127

Where's the banana he's meant to be tallying?

>> No.56322131
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Weird AustralianPosting

Trying again

>> No.56322135

What would you like to know? I wanted my own chapter, and couldn't come up with a good chapter symbol. So, I chose smiley faces.

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Best legion ever

>> No.56322148
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Third time's the charm

>> No.56322149
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Dude, I had dubs, and specifically dubs that add up to a 6.
Build your goddamn purgators. 'Tis the Emperors will.

>> No.56322151

Time-consuming fucker, isn't he?

Well, I'm not a mathematician, so I'd like to know what the numbers for the three ranks would be if it was:

(A) - The scenario that gave the absurdly large number early in the thread
>8 bloodthirsters in rank one controlling 8 subordinates each for 8 circles
>8 heralds in the first rank controlling 8 subordinate heralds each for 88 circles
>888 bloodletters for each herald

>8 bloodthirsters in rank one controlling 8 subordinates each for 8 circles
>8 heralds for each bloodthirster

>> No.56322152

How many years do SoB/guardsmen serve before they're done with their military service?

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So wait, do we have all the battleforces leaked?

I thought it was Tau, IG, Orks, and GSC, but then I saw a GK pic floating around? they all look like trash, but I'm curious anyway

>> No.56322171

I will if you tell me what to equip them with and I like it

>> No.56322176
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Space marines would be so much more cooler if they would still have boot shaped legs like this. The current ones look childish and cartoony. This is the only reason i don't play space marines. Are there any good 3rd party bits that would fix this?

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Nah, looks inverted for me

>> No.56322186

Depends on how many years it takes them to die.

>> No.56322188

Literally Reivers

>> No.56322199 [SPOILER] 
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Psycannons are pretty shit this edition.
The best loadout are 4 Psilencers, they put out a shitton of dakka, are comparatively cheap (for GKs, at least) and because they do D3 damage they can put a hole into anything in the game, as long as you can manage to wound it on 5s. I've killed land raiders with these things.

Now, if you want a more FUN option, do what I've been trying out, and grab a Razorback and put 4 Purgator Incinerators in there to burn the FUCK out of any heretic or demon faggot

>> No.56322202

I gave the correct number earlier for 1 herald commands 8 heralds each of which commands 8 heralds, and so on, with a total number of layers equal to 88. If you drew that, it would be what we call in math a tree, a special kind of graph, with the 0th Herald on top, 8 below him, 64 below them, and so on.

Another anon accused me of getting it wrong, which probably means I misunderstood the arrangement, and I can't math you an answer if I'm misunderstanding the question.

Could you draw the "top" of these circles, just a couple layers, so I can see what you mean?

>> No.56322208

>4 psilencers
Eh, I already have a squad for that
>4 incinerators
Now this, this sounds fun to do

>> No.56322212

>>56322188 In my knowledge they are too tall and the poses are bad.

>> No.56322214

I'd say it would depend on the rank they achieved, and for the SOB, for life. If you're still in the guard on a low level by the time you're, say, 45, they'd probably shift you off to a PDF if not earlier, although if you were in active duty you'd probably be promoted very highly by that time for being able to survive so much.
And if you're a conscript, it's probably going to be a fairly reasonable amount of time recruited into active-duty service, similar to real-life countries except slightly more grimdark, so about 1-5 years on a hive world, it depends how many citizens they have and whether their priority is having well-trained PDF equivalent to true guard, or large amounts of passably trained citizens rotating frequently so military experience is spread throughout the population. Then there's the possibility it's a system like the Roman legions where it's a small part of society that has to do it for basically 25 years, something like the Vostroyans, where not everyone is conscripted but those who are conscripted have to put in a lot of work.

Wish they'd do an entire box of tactical marines in that style. Fluff it as "experimental mark 6" for the Horus Heresy line.

>> No.56322218

You sound like a man interested in Ordo Malleus Inquisitors armed with Incinerators.

>> No.56322226

What are the best Death Guard units to focus on and include in your army?

>> No.56322229
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>Now this, this sounds fun to do
It is.
I purged a Stormraven out of the air with these dudes the other day.

>> No.56322236

Can they take Incinerators? Their profile says only psycannons.

>> No.56322244

Thats look retarded, normal one looks like an armour pice as it should.

>> No.56322274

Unfortunately, I don't think there's any regiment in the fluff that isn't pants-on-head grimderp retarded when it comes to military service, so you're never going to find solutions even as intelligent as some of the stupider ones humanity has actually tried on Earth.

For example, you won't find any - even Catachan - that work like the US military, i.e. an army predominantly consisting of volunteers whose full-time career is military service, because precisely 0 regiments actually commit to ensuring any reasonable number of people survive service long enough to retire. Instead, the ones that use volunteers accomplish it through a combination of propaganda and economic hardship.

It's one reason WH40K rpgs go off the rails so easily - even with a GM good enough to keep everyone in charge crazy and stupid, it only takes one rational person with power to start fixing all of the self-inflicted problems society has in-universe.

>> No.56322283

They can, yes. You might be thinking of the ones in Terminator armour, I honestly don't remember their loadouts off the top of my head. But stock Inquisitors can be any Ordo and can take Incinerators.

Strictly speaking, I believe Ordos are chosen when Relics are issued, i.e. after finding out your opponents' army, but you can model and fluff yours as strictly Malleus for sure.

>> No.56322287

>I can't math you an answer if I'm misunderstanding the question
I didn't get the impression you were misunderstanding the arrangement, although I would say it's not starting with 1, it's starting with 8, and each member of the first row gets 8 in the second row, and each member in the second row has 8 in the third row, and so on.
For bloodthirsters, there are 8 rows, and for heralds we'll say there are 88.

>> No.56322290

Playing a 500pts game with my IG against a friend's recently purchased blood angels, critique my list:

++ Patrol Detachment (Imperium - Astra Militarum) [25 PL, 494pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Regiment: Cadian

+ HQ +

Company Commander [2 PL, 35pts]: Astra Militarum Orders, Bolt pistol, Power sword, THE LAURELS OF COMMAND

+ Troops +

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 52pts]
. 7x Guardsman
. Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Flamer
. Guardsman w/ Vox-caster: Vox-caster
. Sergeant: Chainsword, Laspistol

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 57pts]
. 7x Guardsman
. Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Meltagun
. Guardsman w/ Vox-caster: Vox-caster
. Sergeant: Chainsword, Laspistol

+ Elites +

Command Squad [2 PL, 46pts]
. Veteran w/ Medi-pack: Lasgun, Medi-pack
. Veteran w/ Regimental Standard: Lasgun, Regimental Standard
. Veteran w/ Special Weapon: Sniper rifle
. Veteran w/ Vox-caster: Lasgun, Vox-caster

Commissar [2 PL, 39pts]: Plasma pistol, Power sword, THE BLADE OF CONQUEST

+ Heavy Support +

Heavy Weapons Squad [3 PL, 78pts]
. Heavy Weapon Team: Lascannon
. Heavy Weapon Team: Lascannon
. Heavy Weapon Team: Lascannon

Leman Russ Battle Tanks [10 PL, 187pts]
. Leman Russ Eradicator: Heavy Bolter, Plasma Cannons, Storm Bolter, Turret-mounted Eradicator Nova Cannon

++ Total: [25 PL, 494pts] ++

What should I change? I still want to give him a fair chance

>> No.56322296
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Only thing they remind me of is this.

>> No.56322301

Five seperate brotherhood champions.

Or otherwise purifiers, just because

>> No.56322309
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Rule of cute > Rule of cool
Prove me wrong you can't

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>five seperate brotherhood champions

>> No.56322320

Ok, so there's no 1 herald on top? Then my answer changes - it's about 8 times bigger.

8 heralds on top of 8 heralds each, for 88 layers, is 8^1+8^2 ... + 8^88 = 8^89-2 = 237142198758023568227473377297792835283496928595231875152809132048206089502588926

888 times that for bloodletters.

8 Bloodthirsters commanding 8 Bloodthirsters is the same math, but we cut it off earlier, at 8 layers:
8^1+8^2+...8^8 = 8^9-2 = 134217726 Bloodthirsters.

>> No.56322330


Get another Infantry squad and promote your commissar to a lord to upgrade to a battalion.

>> No.56322332
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COOL >>> Cute

>> No.56322335

That sounds retardedly gay
I love it

>> No.56322349

>get 5 brotherhood champions
>stuff em in a rhino
>roll em up to a landraider
>disembark, charge
>use sword strike
>you now have 20 AP-3 dD3 attacks wounding that land raider on 5s

>> No.56322352

Fuck off degenerate male, Nids belong to us girls we like the CUTE.

>> No.56322365

Seconding (>>56322301) for 5 Brotherhood Champions

>> No.56322367

Full incinerator squad to flame dem demons

>> No.56322368
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>it only takes one rational person with power to start fixing all of the self-inflicted problems society has in-universe.

But jokes aside, I'd say the reason there's no professional military giving people perks and careers as such is because in most places it's too severe a conflict for it to be just another job. The people who have a primarily economic motive who can do something else won't join because it's so risky, and conscription would be basically mandatory almost everywhere because the need for soldiers is that high. It's only in the officer corps where there would be room for non-vocational careerism, and even then usually in planets' regiments it's defined by the politics and culture of that planet, with the nepotistic elite dominating it so that it's de-facto a cross-section of the people who control civilian society controlling the military society, as if they'd been conscripted. And even in the officer corps, there's probably going to be a lot of explicit conscription either because the pool of officers is limited by factors like caste systems or populations where most people aren't suited to be officers (ogryn tier intelligence, as an example cause), or else they'd conscript their officer caste because they simply need that many officers to control the huge amount of people in the regiments.

>> No.56322377
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>calls me degenerate
>is probably into shitty ovipositor fetish
Leave my glorious Space Dinosaur Master Race and never return.

>> No.56322395

>tfw built up the courage to actually leave my house and go to the local GW to get some paints

feeling pretty good right now bois

>> No.56322402


>> No.56322408

Good job, Anon!

>> No.56322409

It feels as if I'm getting away with something:

++ Battalion Detachment +3CP (Imperium - Astra Militarum) [30 PL, 498pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Regiment: Cadian

+ HQ +

Company Commander [2 PL, 31pts]: Astra Militarum Orders, Bolt pistol, Chainsword, THE LAURELS OF COMMAND

Lord Commissar [4 PL, 55pts]: Bolt pistol, Power sword

+ Troops +

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 50pts]
. 7x Guardsman
. Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Grenade Launcher
. Guardsman w/ Vox-caster: Vox-caster
. Sergeant: Chainsword, Laspistol

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 45pts]
. 8x Guardsman
. Guardsman w/ Vox-caster: Vox-caster
. Sergeant: Chainsword, Laspistol

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 50pts]
. 7x Guardsman
. Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Grenade Launcher
. Guardsman w/ Vox-caster: Vox-caster
. Sergeant: Chainsword, Laspistol

+ Elites +

Command Squad [2 PL, 46pts]
. Veteran w/ Medi-pack: Lasgun, Medi-pack
. Veteran w/ Regimental Standard: Laspistol and Chainsword, Regimental Standard
. Veteran w/ Special Weapon: Sniper rifle
. Veteran w/ Vox-caster: Lasgun, Vox-caster

+ Heavy Support +

Heavy Weapons Squad [3 PL, 48pts]
. Heavy Weapon Team: Mortar
. Heavy Weapon Team: Mortar
. Heavy Weapon Team: Lascannon

Leman Russ Battle Tanks [10 PL, 173pts]
. Leman Russ Eradicator: Heavy Bolter, Heavy Bolters, Storm Bolter, Turret-mounted Eradicator Nova Cannon

++ Total: [30 PL, 498pts] ++

>> No.56322411

Fucking amazing anon. You make me want to chop me own hands off in shame.

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>> No.56322424

bls no bully
thank you, gw staff are pretty friendly and he helped me find what I needed

>> No.56322430

I got a question regarding Smite:
> The closest visible enemy unit within 18" of the psyker suffers 1D3 mortal wounds, 1D6 if the charge roll is greater than 10
Does this mean that I have to roll 11 for 1D6 mortal wounds? 10 is not above 10, right?

>> No.56322433


>> No.56322435

Yes, 11. It's 10 if you have some sort of +1 to cast boost.

>> No.56322450

If you have spare change left over, you should always spend it to give your sergeants bolters.

Also, Grenade Launchers are not efficient uses for points, especially for Cadia. I'm not sure how many points you'll save per se, but you're better off moving your heavy weapons into your Infantry squads (it makes them loads cheaper) and changing the special weapon to plasma if your goal is versatility (the alleged intent of grenade launchers).

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>nightlord poster still gets no replies
nightlords forever BTFO

>> No.56322460

2k points of poxwalkers, you cannot fail.

>> No.56322461

>Only in death does duty end.

But really after a big crusade Guardsmen regiments can be given a place to live on one of the recently captured worlds helping to form the PDF. I've read of this happening in several instances.

>> No.56322465

I have a question:

How is suicide handled in the Imperium of Man? Not "valiant last stand" suicide or "ritual sacrifice for Chaos" suicide, but the soul-crushing, "end-it-all" kind?

Culturally, I imagine suicide is treated less as an "honorable" demise (Roman falling upon his own sword), and more as a form of treason. After all, if you kill yourself before giving your life to the Emperor, you're technically stealing your life from Him, committing treason and heresy. Worse is how surviving relatives would be treated (having a relative that committed suicide is a good way to be a social pariah in certain parts of the South).

How does the Imperium combat this? Sure, Servitorization or Arcoflagellation are potential options, but relatively expensive, and subject to political tangles. Treatment in a Medicae sanatorium might be an option for shell-shocked heroes, but not available to a lowly Administratum scribe or Hive factory-guilder.

Nobles would alternate between seeking (discrete) help, or viewing the suicide of other nobles as a favor to their political advancement. Von Straab was even able to get away with murder by saying he came across a tragic suicide, despite Von Strabb holding the gun in question!

This actually fascinates me as for being a grimdark setting, there's a surprisingly lack of this aspect of human psychology.

>> No.56322482

Done and done
Thx based anon

>> No.56322515

Pretty much what you said. If you're depressed, join one of the many war efforts! You'll die anyway! The imperium truly is a great place

>> No.56322522

Thats the pants for a true MAN, not some skinny hipster crap!

>> No.56322527

Don't know, but the actual grimdarkness of the setting may leave little to it. In the same sense that people in Africa and other poor people are less known for suicide, despite a hard life.

Probably that in an universe where everything is trying to kill you, most people don't really think that they could end-it all. They are too busy trying to survive.

>> No.56322529

Swag !

>> No.56322542

>degenerate meme
Don't talk to me or to my swarmlord ever again.

>> No.56322544

On the topic of Psycannons though, is it worth it to take say 1 in a squad with 3 Psilencers?

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Sup /tg/

Just started a sororitas army. Not a single GW buy, everything ebay. Acetone is your friend.

Are chinaman repressor any good ?

>> No.56322561

/tg/ !
I need to know which armies can let me field litteral hordes of dudes with power hammers. I want to make LOTS of fit dudes with power hammers.

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>> No.56322565

Is there any special equipment I can give a Tyranid prime to make him stand out from my other warriors? I woulda went with a venom canon but for some reason he can't take it.

>> No.56322567

Why are there two tumblrinas in your SoBs?

>> No.56322579


>Shirtless Cadian of battle

>> No.56322581
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>that one transsexual sister-guy
Male adepta sororitas confirmed

>> No.56322587

Melee weapons cultists ?

>> No.56322592

Have you seen the faces on the models? They're all male, that one's just pre-op.

>> No.56322594

You going to apply the acetone any time soon?

And what the fuck is that guardsman?

>> No.56322595
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> That one gay Cadian.

>> No.56322596

>GK strike squads
50 dudes in power armor, each armed with a hammer leaves you at 1700 points.
300 points leaves you enough for an HQ or two.
If you drop a couple more dudes, you can fit in an Ancient or two as well.

Psycannons a shit, unfortunately.

>> No.56322602

So literally just nothing but psilencers? Oh well, alright I guess.

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Did they nerf Swarmlord or not?

Flat 3 damage vs d6 seems the same average wise but which do you prefer?

>> No.56322609

Ablative wounds


Priest. Fluffwise only survivor of a regiment turned chaos. The sister discovered him praying to the emperor above the body of the traitor colonel. He is even more pious batshit insane than your average bolterette.

>> No.56322610

>implying there are non-gay Cadians
You know, other than all the ones who blew up.

>> No.56322612

Alright /tg/, you've been invited to a 2k pts tournament! Unfortunately, it takes place in Canada, and as per the Justin Trudeau act, killing your enemy makes them the winner. As such, your only way to win this tournament is to make the shittiest list possible so that you lose every game, and as such win the tournament. What do you field?

>> No.56322614

Psilencers are better than psycannons against anything but T8, and are cheaper to boot.
If you want a fun unit, though, grab 4 Incinerators and burn the world to a crisp.

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Stop reposing this shit every thread

>> No.56322620

d6 is slightly better average but swarmie still a blender and he's tougher than before

>> No.56322625

Average of D6 is 3.5, not 3, so its technically a nerf in that regard.
At the same, time he got a buff by doing mortal wound on to wound rolls of 6s.

>> No.56322629

What's the minimum amount of units I would need to buy to try this game kitchen table style with a friend? I'm looking at ork.

>> No.56322632

How to paint Imperial fists? Yellow scheme is haaard.... and I don't want to drybrush so no help from Duncykins

>> No.56322633


How is he tougher? Did they give him more wounds?

>> No.56322642

The shirtless torso/legs are from an Empire Flagellant. All Flagellants are shirtless, mostly so you can glue the extra bitz ("time is nigh" hourglasses, books/tomes, etc). It's a great kitbashing source for Red Redemptionists or if you want an Incinerant Priest too.>>56322581

>> No.56322643

>Average of D6
Just die faggot.
Complete high school before posting here.

>> No.56322645

T7 instead of T6

>> No.56322651

I mean... orks, you only really need the start collecting and a Warboss and hey presto, you're legal. Depends on what PL or points limit you set my dude

>> No.56322653

The other most common method for yellow is to paint the model white (or light grey) then glaze it like a mad cunt.

>> No.56322656


A single renegade psyker conclave.
Deploy only one model.
Come psy phase, suicide yourself by rolling 3D6 instead of 2.

>> No.56322665

Hmm that affects only a few weapons.


>> No.56322667

yellow spray

>> No.56322669


>Can't screw up and roll a 1 for damage

Flat 3 is better than D6 every day of the week.

>> No.56322671


Speaking of which, is there any tutorial to make softer female faces ?
1996 sister of battle faces are very hard to make feminine.

>> No.56322674

Assuming I have no idea what those mean, how do I set them? Is the game drastically different if I only have 20 units vs. 100 units?

>> No.56322677
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>its another "/tg/ gets triggered by stochastics" episode

>> No.56322697

Excluding an hero Psykers? 1 Tankbusta with a Tankhammer. Everything else is Reinforcement Points.

An-hero in melee.

>> No.56322709 [SPOILER] 
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I bring my competetive Grey Knights list.

>> No.56322725
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70/20 Mix of Yriel Yellow and Averland Sunset. The little bit of base paint will help the paint apply smoothly.

>> No.56322729

What is that image supposed to convey?

Also d6>3.

33% of the time you get a worse result.

66% you get the same or better.

>> No.56322731


Yes. With a few models it's most often 30mn casual play with a friend. Average "hobby" games are more around 2h. Tournament size games last up to 3 hours. Bigest battlez involving several players can take up to several days.

>> No.56322744

I decline the invitation. I play at my LGS, have fun, and enjoy the game.

>> No.56322751

I have an image somewhere about this, anon. I'll see if I can dig it out when I get home from the doctor

>> No.56322759

That would be much appreciated.

>> No.56322765

The smallest battle forged setup is a patrol detachment of 1 HQ unit and 2 troop units.

>> No.56322770

nice, hopefully you'll be able to play soon

>> No.56322783

99% of the time going above D3 is wasted

>> No.56322787

Actually it's only better 1/3 days of the week.

>> No.56322798

>Also d6>3
But thats what I said. So we agree that it becoming Dmg 3 was a nerf?

>What is that image supposed to convey?
Its a nice and autistic looking photo.

>> No.56322801

Wanted to try something different with Admech. Critique my list please

- Brigade Detachment (Imperium - Adeptus Mechanicus) -

Forge World: Graia

- HQ -
+ Tech-Priest Dominus: Eradication Ray, Macrostubber, Raiment of the Technomartyr, Emotionless Clarity warlord trait (141pts)

+ Tech-Priest Dominus: Volkite Blaster, Phosphor Serpenta (139pts)

+ Tech-Priest Enginseer (52pts)

- Troops -

Skitarii Rangers (90pts)
+ 2x Skitarii Ranger w/ Galvanic Rifles
+ 2x Skitarii Ranger w/ Transuranic Arquebus
+ Ranger Alpha w/ Galvanic Rifle

Skitarii Vanguards (59pts)
+ 3x Skitarii Vanguard w/ Radium Carbine
+ Skitarii Vanguard w/ Plasma Caliver
+ Vanguard Alpha w/ Radium Carbine

Skitarii Vanguards (59pts)
+ 3x Skitarii Vanguard w/ Radium Carbine
+ Skitarii Vanguard w/ Plasma Caliver
+ Vanguard Alpha w/ Radium Carbine

Skitarii Vanguards (59pts)
+ 3x Skitarii Vanguard w/ Radium Carbine
+ Skitarii Vanguard w/ Plasma Caliver
+ Vanguard Alpha w/ Radium Carbine

Skitarii Vanguards (49pts)
+ 3x Skitarii Vanguard w/ Radium Carbine
+ Skitarii Vanguard w/ Arc Rifle
+ Vanguard Alpha w/ Radium Carbine

Skitarii Vanguards (49pts)
+ 3x Skitarii Vanguard w/ Radium Carbine
+ Skitarii Vanguard w/ Arc Rifle
+ Vanguard Alpha w/ Radium Carbine

- Elites -

Corpuscarii Electro-Priests (280pts)
+ 20x Corpuscarii Electro-Priest

Cybernetica Datasmith (52pts)

Sicarian Infiltrators (130pts)
+ 4x Sicarian Infiltrator w/ Flechette Blaster & Taser Goad
+ Infiltrator Princeps w/ Flechette Blaster & Taser Goad

- Fast Attack -

Ironstrider Ballistarii (190pts)
+ 2x Ironstrider Ballistarius w/ Twin Lascannon

Sydonian Dragoons (68pts)
+ Sydonian Dragoon w/ Taser Lance

Sydonian Dragoons (68pts)
+ Sydonian Dragoon w/ Taser Lance

- Heavy Support -

Kastelan Robots (242pts)
+ 2x Kastelan Robot w/ Kastelan Fists & Incendine Combustor

2x Onager Dunecrawler (135pts each)
+ Onager Dunecrawler w/ Cognis Heavy Stubber & Icarus Array

1997pts total

>> No.56322806

Fair enough. Maybe the fact that gang wars and duelling exist (as well as Chrono-Gladiator arenas) as fairly unregulated aspects of life mean that those seeking to end it all have "acceptable" ways of doing so.

Then again, for the more "sedate" parts of the Imperium (again, being a clerk or scribe in the nightmare bureaucracy of the Administratum or Departmento Munitorium) would mean you have relatively little risk of a terrifying death but little to live for.

Perhaps a more dangerous issue is the fact that there is no real equivalent of a "suicide hotline," "alcoholics anonymous," or other semi-standardized sources of help, instead being on a planet-to-planet (if not hive-to-hive or even "hab sector to hab sector") basis. The fact that charitable organizations are the perfect front for clandestine cults can easily have the insidious effect of hindering the efforts of genuine organizations.

"Forarmzine can give you the will to live again. Side effects may include dryness of mouth, patchy skin, agitation, increased libido, back pain, dilation of the pupils, and vestigial claws. Do not take Forarmzine if pregnant. Call now to see if Forarmzine is right for you."

>> No.56322811

It is very autistic but what is Lawrence supposed to be conveying in the image? Is he disappointed in Bone's silly antics?

>> No.56322815

What do you do vs 9 earthshaker and 36 mortar behind a building ?

On top of the other 1100 points of IG i mean..

Not everyone plays space marines.
You're too anti-elite

>> No.56322832

I believe its a combination of pitiful condensation and dissapointement

>> No.56322838

If you want to play kitchenhammer with a small amount of models per side, I would recommend 2nd Edition 40k. The games were "smaller" and more detailed (if a bit clunky). For example, the average 2nd ed game was 1500 points and the base Guardsman was 10 points per model, base. In 8th, 2000 points and the base Guardsman is 4 points (3 points for Conscripts). Space Marines were 33 points and are 13 points in 8th.

Google the Warhammer Battle Bible.

>> No.56322846
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Let's be honest here, at least the Nights Lords have the coolest colours ever.
Lightning bolts and midnight blue are great.
I might say that only IW and EC can compete.

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What exactly is the point of these guys? To me, they seem like waste; a metric fuckton of points that really only serves to either guard a particular HQ, or Typhus' butt buddies for a deep strike rampage. I feel like, unless you're running the latter, you could get a whole lot more out of those points elsewhere, especially with just how strong the regular-ass Plague Marines are.

>> No.56322852
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Chaos BTFO

>> No.56322858

>Lightning bolts and midnight blue are great.

Except nobody can paint them for shit so it looks shit IRL.

>> No.56322866

I have honestly never seen an actually good looking NL army.
The lighting bolts always look especially terrible.

>> No.56322871


>> No.56322878

No, i shan't.

>> No.56322883

>What exactly is the point of these guys?

Nothing, they are shit and disappointing. Their buffs only help like 2 characters and look out sir is pointless in this edition. One smite murders a dude who costs like 65 pts and isn't even good, and the hand flamers are shitty

Wish they had 3 wounds (Mostly because it feels like they should) but fuck 'em, Blightlords all the way

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>> No.56322893

They are melee monsters. 3 of them output 10 attacks with the equivalent profile of power fists but with no -1 to hit and rerolling wounds of 1.

Slap a casting value 5 spell on them and spend one Command Point on th and they're wounding land raiders on 2+ rerolling with every 5+ being a mortal wound.

Plus they're set for a points cost reduction according to CA leaks, from 75 each to 60.

>> No.56322895

>Wish they had 3 wounds (Mostly because it feels like they should)
They aren't Paladins, they shouldn't.
>Traitors BTFO.

>> No.56322913


>> No.56322915
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Do we know anything concrete about CA or is it all faeit 'leaks' ? Because I wouldn't trust that clickbait if it said that water is wet

>> No.56322919

Also, GW has basically explicitly admitted that Death Guard are intended to rely on using shenanigans of some stripe to get a Dark Hereticus psyker on the table, whether that's using an Index model or allying in a Nurgle caster from somewhere else. They get a lot better with Warptime.

>> No.56322920

>It is not only the blades and bullets of the enemy that the Death Guard scorn. Nurgle has rendered his favored son utterly immune to the contagions, toxins, and poisons of realspace. No warzone is too extreme for them, no atmospheric blight or rampant contagion too deadly. Virus bombs, rad warheads, even the most forbidden of bioweapons can find little purchase in their bloated flesh.

>Cucked and outpoisoned by some random bugs in a few minutes
Being Death Guard is suffering.

>> No.56322927

What's the remaining 10%?

I have to say I do like the shade you've achieved, it's very similar to what I intended to achieve with my own trial scheme where it's averland with 2 coats of lamenter's glaze on it, which is awkward but gives a strange orange-yellow colour with a glowy, almost glossy surface. It's probably too orange and I'm hesitant to paint up any further Fists before I take the plunge and get an airbrush.

>> No.56322933
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>> No.56322935

Plus, Dark Eldar poisons work on them just fine - better, even, because poison is and always has been the easiest way to bypass toughness, and Nurgle's primary schtick is toughness. Nurgle has a long and sordid history of making his army easier to kill with poison than other methods.

>> No.56322938

Theres a starter set called "battle for vedros", call around your local shops and see of you can find one. It has a small ork force and a small space marine force, the models are easier to put together and the rules might be out of date but you can find all the rules/indexes in the OP (or pick up a "battle primer" book from GWs stores or website for free), the models in the kit are very good additions to an ork army and it is one of the cheaper starter kits

>> No.56322939

Is it worth running a Broodlord, just for a single large squad of Genestealers, or should I just upgrade to a Tyrant?

>> No.56322947

Upgrade to a Swarmlord, Hive Commander that 1 Genestealers unit, profit like a motherfucker.

>> No.56322949

No, please bully the Carnac.

>> No.56322953

Thats literraly false and against all the fluff ever published.

>> No.56322957

Good enough for GW giving them a pass in their GT

>> No.56322965
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So when are we putting an end to Carnac?

>> No.56322969

It is literally true. Which part confuses you, Nurgle making his minions tougher or poisons being primarily designed to bypass toughness?

>> No.56322973
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>hand flamers are shitty
They are straight-up insulting. A fucking terminator shouldn't even be able to take a strength 3 pissthrower, and for their cost, the Deathshroud should have heavy flamers for Nurgle's sake. Why they didn't give them regular plaguespitters, I have no idea.

>> No.56322986

We need him alive, just to watch him suffer.

>> No.56323000
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Maybe because heavy flamers are so large that it becomes impossible to use two hands in order to properly wield a Manreaper?

Seriously starting to doubt your logic and Death Guard fluff knowledge....

>> No.56323001

This. The tears of the archchaosfag sustain my loyal and turgid member

>> No.56323005

What would you recommend I change?

Should I drop the brigade so I can cut out enough stuff to afford a knight or something better at anti-tank?

>> No.56323008
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>Next codices are DA and Bangles
>Then in January we're getting Daemons.
>Still no words on Orkz

>> No.56323011

Death Guard won that planet, if there's still plague marines on that planet, rendered into sludge as they were, while the Nids gave up, quit and left because they couldn't eat the planet by the time the Death Guard were done and the ones not sludged up left.

>> No.56323014


Ok, thanks!

>> No.56323016

can you post the GK pic?

>> No.56323017

>brings up ovipositor
>previously unmentioned
>I-I don't like that tho, baka!

Really activates those almonds

>> No.56323029

In a dream world, Orks are taking longer because they're having more work put into them, and when they finally drop, they'll have had Imperial Guard level effort put into their Codex.

In the real world, GW doesn't care about you.

>> No.56323031

Battleforces? What do you mean?

>> No.56323033

You'll probably be just after Daemons or whichever Imperial codex comes after Daemons, because they're releasing a Chaos and Imperium codex each soon.
It's funny that they're releasing loyal and heretic Angels at the same time.

>> No.56323039

Remember that all early codexes aren't getting any new models. Primarshits and Deathguard were the only ones, and probably just because they were in the starter set.

Orks being late could likely mean they're finally updating some shit I don't know any ork players who wouldn't kill for new warbuggie sculpts

>> No.56323043

Death Guard didn't win that planet.

Nurgle did.

Important distinction.

>> No.56323055

40K is essentially my excuse to socialize

>> No.56323059

That is an important distinction, good point, my mistake.
He did use the Death Guard in winning said planet.

>> No.56323062

Rules =/= fluff, and besides, the Death Guard don't even use flamers at all, they are plaguespitters. If they can spot-weld weapons together and construct daemon-engines, I'm pretty sure the forces of chaos can find a way to attach a goo-hose to a gauntlet.

>> No.56323064

Normal ones look like bell-bottom jeans made of metal.

>> No.56323071
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It took you this long to come up with a response?
Also, stop projecting your fetishes and "OMG SO CUUTE" meme's onto my army.

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Yeah I'd like to see how you came to that conclusion, since you know, theres aprx 17% chance to get any result on 1d6.

After 2d6 each dice adds 3.5 to the total result.

I honestly hate having things that do d6 damage, its too swingy and unreliable. I would prefer each instance of 1d6 to be changed to 2d3, but thats just me

>> No.56323111
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In the new codex, Gorgon attacks a space hulk and gets rekt by the death guard. They eat the few plague marines they kill, then come back with new toxins that cause the death guard to melt. Nurgle best at his own game by nids, embarrassing

Nah, he just goalpost shifted in n an attempt to hide is butt-devastation. Now instead of “nids can’t eat chaos worshippers” it’s “nids can eat chaos flesh but they can’t use the biomass” even though that was never his argument before nor is it supported by anything. And now that Kronos is BTFOING daemons at ranges and deleting their rifts with the shadow in the warp, he’s clinging to
>w-well those fags couldn’t beat us in melee!
>n-no it’s not retarded to be a full melee force in a setting where everyone else has guns
The absolute state of Carnac

>> No.56323113

You first

>> No.56323116

Orks need new models for sure, but considering the quality of the "You have to use all the spare bits" 'naught kit, the ugly pose meganob release, and the fucking horrendous AoS ork releases, I've gotta be at least a little nervous about them updating shit for orks.

Man, fuck that Mork/Gorkanaught kit.

>> No.56323126

So let me see if I'm getting how detachments, regiment bonuses, and overall armies work correctly:

I can have a Cadian Detachment that consists of everyone having the Cadian keyword. Because of this they get the regiment bonus. I can then have an Imperial Fists detachment with a chapter Master and some marines that will also get their chapter bonus. I can use both of these detachments together because they both share the Imperium keyword?

I'm a bit new to the game and want to be sure I'm building my army correctly.

>> No.56323144

So both Carnac and Nid WAACfags suffer.

I'm failing to see the issue here.

>> No.56323147

...does Carnac not think Lorgar and Perty are undivided princes?

>> No.56323149

I bring my basilisks and use them as if they were hellhounds

>> No.56323158

No, he thinks they're Tzeentch and Nurgle or some stupid shit like that.

>> No.56323159

Carnac isnt even real, he's just an icon of things we hate.

Like Manlytears on /v/

>> No.56323164

Belakor says he's the first and last Deamon Prince of Undivided and Carnac thinks he's not lying.

>> No.56323167

Being a full melee force wasn't retarded when we could unreliably deepstrike right next to you and potentially gain more daemons than you killed in morale phase with daemonic instability.
Or our warp storms summoned randomed daemons, effects and attacks before the movement phase.
Or our chariots were actually a workable defence for our heralds.
I don't really miss being able to summon infinite daemons though, it was honestly pretty broken.

>> No.56323168

>t. carnac

>> No.56323173

Two birds with one stone as far as I'm concerned.

>> No.56323179

must-have units for t'au 750pt?

>> No.56323182

That is correct, yes.

Genestealer Cults have an exception to the rules, called "Brood Brothers." For each detachment of Genestealer Cults you take, you may take one of Guard. The Guard cannot take Special Characters, and replace their <Regiment> with Brood Brothers. This Guard detachment ignores the normal restrictions on Keyword allying.

Genestealer Cults also have the Tyranid Keyword, so can ally with Tyranids.

So if you want, you can have a detachment of Tyranids and a detachment of Guard teaming up in a totally fluffy faction. All it takes is 5 points and 1 CP to take a single Genestealer Neophyte as an Auxiliary Detachment.

>> No.56323185

>t. Carnac trying to avoid the suspicion and keep his image alive

>> No.56323189

Commander and a billion drones.

>> No.56323196

>t. carnac falseflagging as an anon trying to fight again carnac

>> No.56323197

Correction, Commander Ob'Auma and an entire fleet of drones.

>> No.56323198

I get both of these in the christmas box right?

>> No.56323199


>> No.56323200
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Daily reminder that this guy and his legion smashed huge chunks of the Tyranids ground swarms in the Baal system.

The Warp itself responded to his rage and dragged the entire Tyranid tendril to the Warp. In a span of a less than a day, the largest of Leviathan was ripped apart and scattered to the 8 winds of Chaos.

In displays of power, nobody can beat Chaos.

>> No.56323202

>Plague Hulk
>Decades after its apparent demise, Gorgon reemerges. It's path converges with the plague hulk Vomnivorax. The Hive Fleet launches boarding tentacles, and swarms of gants pour into the corrupted vessel. Plague Marines of the Mouldering Claw obliterate the initial waves of invaders, their disease-ridden flesh immune to the toxins of the Gorgon. The swarm consumes those few who fall. During the next wave of the invasion, Toxicrenes lace the tunnels of the ship with a refined spore-agent which causes the Plague Marines' rancid flesh to slough from their bones.

>> No.56323204

He's not lying if we refer to the Daemon Primarchs as being separate entities to Daemon Princes.
The Keywords do kind of support that.

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Not the origional poster, but I didnt refresh the thread when I parked at work and that was the newst post. I didnt anticipate the thread traffic

>> No.56323208 [SPOILER] 
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>t. Carnac shitposting with himself in a vain hope to remain relevant

>> No.56323212


To be fair, it's not exactly his own game he's beaten at; acid =\= disease

>> No.56323220 [SPOILER] 
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>Nids being just as obnoxious as Carnac
Why can't we all just be chill though I suspect all this Gorgon shitpost spamming is just chaos players trying to turn people against nids. Though if the last 2-3 weeks have actually been Nid players, fuck you guys. Cunts

>> No.56323222
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Be'lakor is not the one saying it. The lore says it. Be'lakor is the only daemon prince who has no single master and has to answer to all the gods.

And the daemon codex is coming in 1 month and a half. So prepare to be BTFO when they reaffirm that Be'lakor is the one and only.

>> No.56323223

But...no, just no.

GW did say something along those lines in 5th, but I also think they forgot about the primarchs

>> No.56323230 [SPOILER] 
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>t. we all are Carnac

>> No.56323232

Not an ork player but what is wrong with that kit?

>> No.56323237

There are canon deamon Primces of Undivided outside of the primarchs though. Carnac!

>> No.56323244

Take the crisis suits and make CIB / Fusion commanders, the ghostkeel with the ion thingy and the 6 stealths (with 2 fusions).
Fill the rest with drones.
1k pts of cheese.

>> No.56323251

WRONG. The CSM codex and other sources say that they daemon princes.

>> No.56323256

It happens every time a supposedly-weak army gets a good update - all the 'bro-tier' players as they constantly describe themselves turn out to be massive cunts who were let off simply because people felt sorry for them and they didn't have as much to brag about. Happened with Guard, happening with Nids, and I bet it'll happen with Orks. The irony is they're the players who usually talk the most shit about other factions' fanbases too.

>> No.56323264

You're going in the right direction, but dont try for a brigade. its too hard with admech, do a double battalion. Anyway, I would replace the corpuscarii and dragoons with more infiltrators, you need that mobility. Or a lucius battalion of deepstriking vanguards. Its a good list overall.

>> No.56323269

Where can a get some bits, like weapons and seals (doesnt matter the army) in a bulk for a good price?

>> No.56323274

"I saw O'Bauma's birth certificate. Fake nooz. Hez not from T'au but a zoggin Green Beakie!"

"Uhh, Boss Krump? You'z been actin' awful Panzee lately. Wot wif diz Warpead Web stuff, and dat Toof Shower."


>> No.56323280
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Get out, you falseflagging suckers
Be'lakor is the only undivided Demon Prince.
Nids are inferior to Demons
The Imperium will fall.
Abbadon is mankinds only hope for freedom from both the Emperor and the Chaos Gods.
And ABD is a fucking god, you tasteless plebs.

>> No.56323283
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post yfw Be'lakor is confirmed (again) as the One and Only Daemon Prince of Chaos Undivided.

>> No.56323284

Under a 1000 points of Deathshroud and you're a pussy.

>> No.56323288

okay, thank you for helping me decide my next purchase. ;)

>> No.56323292

Literally who?
Undivided Daemon Princes are rare, Lorgar and Perty are Primarchs, Lorgar actually worships all Chaos and I honestly have no idea how Perty obtained Daemonhood actually.
When has there ever been another besides those 2 and Belakor though?
It calls them Daemon Primarchs, that's what they're called now, it's considered a step above a Daemon Prince.
The stats and keywords even show this.

>> No.56323299
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Meh, I'll still fluff Krieg as Undivided.

>> No.56323306

Do you mind sharing their lore? I always like hearing about people's custom chapters.

>> No.56323307

When the rules say something like “add plus 1 to hit rolls.” That means shooting and melee right?

>> No.56323308
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>The Imperium will fall.
>not Chaos has already won

Seems like the real falseflagging sucker is you!

>> No.56323309

No problem friend.
If you're going to overcharge the ion your next purchase should be pathfinders for rerolling those ones.

>> No.56323310

>It calls them Daemon Primarchs, that's what they're called now, it's considered a step above a Daemon Prince.

That's just bullshit you invented. The lore calls them daemon princes. And there are daemon princes who stand above daemon primarchs like Doombreed for example.

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>> No.56323316

Fuck off back to /pol/, stop bringing politics in to /40kg/

>> No.56323317

Indeed. Note, however, that there are some exceptions (whether due to deliberate intent or poor writing is up to you). Specifically, Magnus gets his empowered Smite (going from d6 to 2d6) on a 10 and up, as do Aspiring Sorcerers and Scarab Sorcerers (going from 1 wound to d3).

>> No.56323322
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Only if it doesn't specify. So Markerlights work in Close Combat.

>> No.56323327
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List thoughts?
(fyi also looking for purchase suggestions atm, as my 2k list is pretty much all my collection atm, excluding10 plague marines w/ nade launchers and a combi flamer, and the two rhinos I ordered that haven't come in yet, .......and i guess the 20 poxwalkers i never put in the list for "summoning" via zombiecheese)

2000 MP deathguard list;
battleforged3+3+1+1 Command points

Bat Detachment +3cp

Typhus 175mp
Malignant plaguecaster 110mp
20 poxwalkers >120 mp
10 poxwalkers >60mp
20 cultists (autoguns/2x heavy stubbers) >92mp
10 plaguemarines (fist, 2 plasma guns, 1 combiplasma) >241mp

Leets detachment +1cp

3d axe lord of contagion >175mp
Plague surgeon >65mp
blightbringer >70mp
Helbrute w/ ML and fist >137mp

Fast detachment +1cp

3d axe lord of contagion >175mp
Fetid Bloat Drone 2x spitters >158MP
Fetid Bloat Drone 2x spitters >158MP
Fetid Bloat Drone 2x spitters >158MP

>> No.56323331

Sup, filthy Ork.
I hope you like getting EXTERMINATUS'ed

>> No.56323335

great, i love the pathfinder model <3

>> No.56323346

Museum quality, that's a new one.

>> No.56323349

He's still a massive failure.
He'd need his own discipline and support for undivided Daemons to actually be good.
It does, but they're still obviously a distinct type of Daemon Prince and are even called Daemon Primarchs to differentiate them from regular Daemon Princes.
Doombreed is never getting rules again and he's fucking ancient.

>> No.56323352

Nigger tier taste I see.

>> No.56323360

Into the lore more plz
The actual collapse of the imperium is a close as the gods of chaos have to a "game over".
The grinding, remorseless tyranny and inhumanity of day to day life in the imperium is the engine that keeps the wheels of the dark gods spinning

>> No.56323361

I believe Inquisition acolytes are the cheapest options, at 8ppm. Mind you, the thunder hammers are 25, so you're more than quadrupling their cost for questionable gain.

>> No.56323363

Stop using the index, several options and points cost are quite different.

>> No.56323373

Going off on this, is there any place that sells beakies in bulk? Price isn't an issue, but Ebay bitsellers only sell them in singles, and it's just cumbersome.

>> No.56323378

Wearing your sister's pantsu doesn't make you a girl, desu

>> No.56323381

Feed you to the emperor

>> No.56323383

oops, guess battle scribe is still out of date. HAVE the index, but I made that list in what I THOUGHT was an updated version of battlescribe

>> No.56323387

>museum quality

>> No.56323394

3 flat is slightly worse than d6, but the bonus MW on 6s to wound makes up the difference on average. Couple that with his buffs to Toughness, Synapse range and invuln (not to mention fleet adaptations, psychic powers and warlord traits) and he came out ahead nicely.

>> No.56323397

>but they're still obviously a distinct type of Daemon Prince and are even called Daemon Primarchs

Distinct for their origins but not their class as daemons. They are all included in the brotherhood of daemon prince and they aren't even the most powerful of them.

And Doombreed might be old but he still appears in the fluff like in the final book in the Ahriman series and recently in a HH audiobook. He towers over the daemon primarchs in power and stature.

>> No.56323402 [SPOILER] 
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>he saw right through my scam

>> No.56323404

Five Riptides.

>> No.56323410

No. Chaos's ultimate goal is to annihilate all life in the galaxy so that they can move on to the next galaxy or reality.

>> No.56323420

He also got his 5++ (4++ in melee) upped to 4++/3++. Which is pretty huge for blending strong melee enemies.

>> No.56323421

Nah. Plague marines can't take combi plasma on Champion, can take regular plasma though.

Lord of Contagion with Plaguereaper is 150 pts.

I'd consider a cheap Lord or daemon prince. Maybe some Plagueburst Crawlers or Blight Hauler for anti tank.

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No, markerlights do not make your katanas any better

>> No.56323428
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> Museum quality.

>> No.56323430

A necron list using only warriors and Stafflords...no Cryptek.

>> No.56323435

Not to nitpick, but political jokes aren't new to 40k or Orks.

Ghazgkull Mag'Uruk Thraka.
Mag'Uruk Thraka <-> Margaret Thatcher.

>> No.56323438

Hoards of fearless Cultists who merely grab objectives.

>> No.56323445

When I have such questions I generally look at what people thought in the middle ages. So yeah, suicide would be a sin and frowned upon.

>> No.56323447

Andy Chambers disproved this. He said he came up with the name using a random Ork name generator.

>> No.56323456
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>Museum quality

That's a new one

>> No.56323463

Ghazkull was his random converted boss in 1st edition.

>> No.56323464

Life is the currency of the Emporer. Spend it wisely.

>> No.56323470
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>Using battlescribe

>> No.56323472
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>Be'lakor hinted to play a big role in the narrative of the Dark Imperium

Who is hype here?

>> No.56323473

Man just imagine how much work they must be putting in SoB then

>> No.56323474
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Looks like we were both wrong.

>> No.56323475

>price isnt an issue
If it was you wouldnt be playing 40k

>> No.56323481

>Nurgle best at his own game by nids, embarrassing
God that's stupid

>> No.56323490


>> No.56323492

Don't fucking lump Gorgon into Kronos shitposting. Gorgon a good boy, didn du nuffin.

>> No.56323493

I didn't know they were referred to in the brotherhood of daemon princes.
Still, GW has been referring to them as Daemon Primarchs since Magnus release at the end of 7th.
They're Daemon Princes but Belakor referring to himself as the first and last undivided Daemon Prince might not be a lie if they are supposed to be a different class.
I didn't mean old like his fluff is old I mean in universe he's fucking Ancient, he ascended centuries before the Imperium of Man was a thing.

>> No.56323496

It's really hard to paint, but it's possible to be done.

>> No.56323498

yeah, the nurgle DP is 100% on my wishlist. looking for a nice wings conversion for the big guy. was thinking about seeing if I can find some blight drone engines on a bit store or something.

I have been playing with the idea of getting more Crawlers to, but i feel like if i show up with 2 or more someone is going to accuse me of WAAC faggotry, given how exceptionally the tank has performed in the two games i have played it in so far.

>> No.56323512

Dick swinging, maybe. They're twice as killy as regular power fist termies and tougher to kill than any infantry this side of Custodes with storm shields or Bullgryns with the save shenanigans. They're definitely way too expensive for what they provide, but sometimes it's nice to have a block of pure implacable assfuckery deepstrike in for some grinding.

Though, if the leaks are correct they're dropping from 75 to 60 points in CA, so that may give them a good niche.

>> No.56323515

If he actually does something and give him interesting rules, I still won't really care I play Slaanesh.

>> No.56323527

>the 8 winds of Chaos.
WFB is that way. Oh wait, it's not, cuz it's dead :'(

>> No.56323532

Get some of the plague drone fly wings

>> No.56323538

Use the wings on the Plague Drones for your Daemon Prince.

>> No.56323542

Sometimes I think that most 40k players are retards. It's almost as they take jokes agains't their favourite factions as a personal insult

>> No.56323546

A Deathshroud is not only tougher than a Paladin, but beats it 1v1 pretty consistently (sans Smite, of course). Then again, they're half again the points.

>> No.56323555

Not dead in my store.
Even still has a general on /tg/
also is superior to Sigmar in every way

>> No.56323558

Anyone use the power system?

>> No.56323569

People who don't also crack jokes about their own army and themselves, and can't handle others making a joke about any of that are usually insufferable faggots.

>> No.56323573

Nice trips of lie

>> No.56323577

I do, but only with friends because it is an abusable system.

>> No.56323578

Deathshrouds are fucking huge, they can manage.

>> No.56323581


>> No.56323586

I have to for summoning my Daemons sometimes.
For actual gameplay and list building beyond that? No way.

>> No.56323590

Only when we feel like playing with the most broken shit possible

>> No.56323592

pretty sure this is a joke, but back in 6-7th i use to build me DA lists in my head, as I had there points values pretty much memorised. Good times. Wish I hadn't sold that army. Looking forward to knowing the DG codex that inside and out.
>In the new codex, Gorgon attacks a space hulk and gets rekt by the death guard. They eat the few plague marines they kill, then come back with new toxins that cause the death guard to melt. Nurgle best at his own game by nids, embarrassing

Funny, the DG codex has pretty much that same story, but in the DG version the nids who ate plague marines came back to the hive fleet and obliterated it with the diseases they were carrying.
> GW Lore now has "Fake news"
Emporah prutekt us

>> No.56323597

>sushi for dinner

It's mutton, actually.

>> No.56323598

How do you guys field the Sigmarines?>>56323558
Sometimes, for quick friendly games. I enforce WYSIWYG in power level games however since there's literally no excuse not to.

>> No.56323610

This is the sad, sad truth.

I just want a Primarch tier Ghaz with updated model and rules to match, is that really too much to ask?

>> No.56323614

trips don't lie fucko
why? jealous my LGS still runs WHFB more than Sigmar?
We don't.

>> No.56323619

>wanting the codex in gif format
>not webm

>> No.56323622
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Is it possible to build a viable Tzeentch Daemons + Tzaangors army with no marines? Not a big force - just 1k

>> No.56323633

Lol, if he appears at all it'll only be to get humiliated and utterly destroyed AGAIN.

>> No.56323634

To be honest..... yes. Ghaz is approximately Chapter Master grade, but he's not Primork grade. We'd know if he was a Primork.

I am not opposed to Orks getting a Primork. I don't think we've seen canonical deaths for all of the Beast's bodies.

>> No.56323638

>jealous my LGS still runs WHFB more than Sigmar?
Why would I give a single fuck about your LGS? If you like it have fun then

>> No.56323646

Yes, but you need an HQ. I recommend Samus

>> No.56323651
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Are there people who genuinely like smegmarines?!

>> No.56323660

Always but that's because my playgroup consists entirely of people who are in it for the lore/painting and we all only play in one guy's basement.
We enforce a reasonable amount of WYSIWYG though so no one is bringing stupid loadouts

>> No.56323672

Fair enough, I do have fun.
I just wish I could find a Hellcannon somewhere for sale, it's out of stock everywhere and GW stopped making them.

>> No.56323673

This post is full of lies.
>Nah, he just goalpost shifted in n an attempt to hide is butt-devastation. Now instead of “nids can’t eat chaos worshippers” it’s “nids can eat chaos flesh but they can’t use the biomass”

Kronos cannot feed itself despite hanging around the borders of the Great Rift and fighting on the worlds nearby the Rift which should stock full of biomass.This shows like in Shadowbrink the Tyranids avoided eating and assimlating tainted biomass. If the Tyranids can sustain from tainted biomass, then Kronos wouldn't be needing other Hive Fleets to feed it.

>n-no it’s not retarded to be a full melee force in a setting where everyone else has guns

What is this? This is stupid and came out of nowhere. The only thing similiar is that one time when Tyranidfags claimed that Tyranids are equal to daemons in melee only to be showed that Tyranids lost every melee battle against daemons.

>> No.56323676
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>> GW Lore now has "Fake news"
>Emporah prutekt us
This is actually good. Codex fluff being full of propaganda and unreliable narrators actually makes the whole thing more plausible in a way, so that the really stupid shit like Lucius possessing a Necron can be excused as exaggerated accounts.

My favorite example of this is the Draigo/Mortarion fight. It's in both codices, but in the GK one it's explicitly mentioned how Draigo, completely on his own, shredded through Mortarion's Deathshroud and BTFO him 1v1 fox only final destination, while in the DG codex they just talk about how it was a Pyrrhic victory and desperate measures and all that shit. Pic related.

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And the GK's account of events.

>> No.56323697

Man, I remember in one discussion I said I had concerns with assorted rules/balance changes for 8th (you know, most everything related to the "Most Playtested" meme), someone got mad and was "you must be one of those cheesy minmax Taudar players" or so.

"I play Word Bearers."

Honestly, the whole "three ways to play" really fucking bothers me. Not just that "matched play" is functionally "narrative play + restrictions" (as oppossed to, say, the 4e Book having rules for Campaigns, Veteran Honors, "attacker/defender" Kill Team, etc), but the idea that you can isolate players.

Not to say skub like "casuals are WAACs in denial" but people *do* like to win a good fight now and then. And if certain combos or armies are poorly balanced, internally or externally, it will "seep" from the tournaments into the LGSs and pickup play. And it may actually scare off people from buying certain armies, either because said armies are weak, or are so good that nobody will want to play them!

Like, when Space Marines are "Bobby G's Assblower" or Raven Guard, Chaos is "Ninja Alpha Berzerkers," Culexus Assassins carry huge signs going "you have to shoot me, neenerneener," Magnus is more likely to join Mortarion rather than his own Legion, or the only Genestealer Cultists you see are "solo" Neophyte Auxiliaries allowing Tyranids and Guard to tag-team, the game has fucked up both on a competitive and narrative level.

And many fanboys seem happy to point fingers at each other instead.

>> No.56323706


Night Lords are the most absolutely retarded Legion. No, Batman wasn't the shittiest primarch even though he was low tier, but his Legion was the shittiest. This is even though the Word Bearers exist. Let that sink in.

>> No.56323709

It doesn't disprove that Draigo killed the bodyguard and one punched morty.

>> No.56323710

Just like how you got BTFO by the Nid dex for all your goalpost-moving?

>> No.56323713

As much as I like the Primarch models, I wish they were left a mystery piled onto countless other mysteries in the setting.

>> No.56323714

Wonder how easy it would be to convert those into a Kroot.

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>> No.56323725
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anyone know where i can get tabard bits for my black templars, or should i just green stuff them?

>> No.56323732

>resorting to ignoring Smite in order to win
DG truly are cucks

>> No.56323733

Can't I use Kairos or LoC?

>> No.56323735

I really don't know why WYSIWYG is such a big deal in Power Level, it's a very unbalanced way to play from the get-go, and the point GW was trying to make with it is to just plop some models down and play, instead of spending time constructing a list. How my shop usually does it is that you're allowed to choose either WYSIWYG, or whatever options are listed on the dataslate. It makes a ton of sense to me, since noobs don't have to flip to the back of the book to find that Lascannon profile or what have you, it's all right in front of them.

>> No.56323737
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>playing orks v orks
>never played with this guy
>comments on my ork paint scheme
>my ork boys are light green while my boss is dark green
>his is the opposite
>says I got the lore wrong
I thought they got darker as they got bigger n shit?

>> No.56323741

This is the unvarnished truth. I hope Ork players won't disappoint me like how Guards and Nids did.

>> No.56323743

>tfw my store rules most recent books trump older books
>DG released after GK
I know it's meant to show that the GK telling of the story isn't 100% true but I still laugh.

>> No.56323746


>"cool" nids
>posts picture of one of the gayest nids
>its face even looks like a big flaring vagina

Vaginas are gay.

>> No.56323747

What? I can go the archive and point out how Tyranidfags said that Kronos was eating daemon worlds and invading the Rift. Which was all proven to be ultimately false.

Nobody got BTFO but Tyranidfags who spent a week exaggerating and digging a whole for themselves. Say sorry or I will go the archive.

>> No.56323753

Well people like space marines.

If you push something enough people will like it or hate it

>> No.56323767
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>getting this defensive

>> No.56323771


>> No.56323774

>goes on the defensive first
>says others are getting defensive

1 month and half and I will be proven right...AGAIN. Count the days.

>> No.56323776

only autists care about the lore

>> No.56323779

>Funny, the DG codex has pretty much that same story, but in the DG version the nids who ate plague marines came back to the hive fleet and obliterated it with the diseases they were carrying.
No it doesn't. Are you retarded or something? The DG codex features only two fights with Nids and neither ends anything like that.

>> No.56323780

Things have options that do not appear in the datasheet. Making the entire thing rather pointless

>> No.56323782

The lack of "idiotic morons" and accusations of racism should've been a giveaway.

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>> No.56323791

anybody happen to know what models were used for chosen on page 101 of CSM codex?

>> No.56323794

It would sure be hilarious to watch an ork player trying to get them in Position for several turns with multiple units. Then the Ork Codex relaesed some form of deloyment shenaningan and t hey kill bob in one turn

>> No.56323795

Found the boy fucker

>> No.56323797

I like to visually identify the models on the table. It's so much easier to pull out your models and say, "this is it!" I don't get autistic about pistols and grenades but I dont like it when the dude puts down a bunch of heavy bolters, glaces at my tank, and says "actually, these are lascannons." When making a powerlevel list there's literally no reason not to just go wysiwyg.

>> No.56323802

>They are all included in the brotherhood of daemon prince and they aren't even the most powerful of them.
Source? Cause crunchwise the only ones stronger are the archdaemons, and FW don't count.

>> No.56323805

What's really bizarre (or not so bizarre, ymmv) about this is that for all its flaws, Guard in 7th were actually pretty "middle of the road" for most intents and purposes, and unlike Tyranids weren't locked into a single build ("Spam Flyrants, dummy!").

>> No.56323815

Blood Angels Second company representing

>> No.56323816

The Chosen from Dark Vengeance box.

>> No.56323818

Doombreed. Lorewise, he is said to be more powerful than the daemon primarchs.

>> No.56323822

His stomach appears undecided on whether it wants to be abs or carapace.

>tfw only daemon prince of chaos undecided

>> No.56323827

thank you!

>> No.56323834

It's just for clarity in my group. we're fine if you want to say your melta gun is a plasma gun or whatever as that's pretty easy to keep track of. It's more questionable if you want to plop down 30 tactical and say they are assault marines or something it's a bit less cool.

>> No.56323835

Hey, try being a Taufag. You learn to take it in stride or you quit.

>> No.56323837
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Daily reminder that Be'lakor is beautiful.

>> No.56323839

They get greener.
That an the smart ones get yellow cause they knows when to run away.

>> No.56323842

Once again Carnac proves he has no understanding of the concepts of:


I thought autists were supposed to be good at math.

>> No.56323856

you ever seen an purple ork?

>> No.56323858

Autists are passionate about something - doesn't make them necessarily good at it, although it obviously tends to, and doesn't need to be math.

Watch Mozart and the Whale for a story about two autists, one of whom is math-focused (the Whale) but the other one is not (Mozart).

>> No.56323860

Sounds balanced.

>> No.56323863


>> No.56323864

No cause they invisible

>> No.56323867
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Figured I'd share some Lore for Khorney Tau. Looks like they can be influenced by Chaos.

>> No.56323876
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Just for you, anon. I hope you're still around.

>> No.56323885
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It shouldn't require teamwork to keep Kronos fed because there should be an abundance of biomass rich worlds alongside the borders of the Great Rift. On average Kronos should always walk away with a net gain because they eat their dead and whatever biomass on the planet. They can only go into the negative if they ignore the biomass on the worlds they fight on or somehow impossibly ALL the worlds across the span of the Great Rift borders are barren and dead.

>> No.56323891

Oh god i think the end product looks worse than the original.

>> No.56323897

>40k general
>lore is for autists
shiggy diggy

>> No.56323898

When was the Fire Warrior novel released? 2001? Welcome to 16 years ago, anon.

>> No.56323905

You'd be wrong

>> No.56323909

not the guy you responding to but you insane or so use to 'eavy metal's painted man faces

>> No.56323913

I think its the eyes and the mouth. It makes her look like she has mental issues

>> No.56323918
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Why are faces so hard?

>> No.56323921
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My local group has only one guy who plays them. He also plays Tau so it checks out.

>> No.56323928

I swear i saw her on one of those tranny shows my woman likes

>> No.56323929

It's a great guide but it's basically just putting fake boobs on a dead pig. No painting technique can really fix how horrendous those faces are.

>> No.56323945

The top left looks like that too.

It's way better

>> No.56323947

Eh, it's for the purpose of the 1v1, because it's one (1-wound) smite per squad and the bigger the size the less it matters. It'd massively skew a pure 1v1 (well, for a given value of massive, it's still only one wound that can be saved on a 5+) but on a full 6v6 or something it's all but irrelevant.

Just for fun though, let's do the math. 9 Paladins cost about as much as 6 Deathshrouds (477 vs 450) and the Paladins deal 6 wounds killing 3 Deathshrouds per turn with Halberds (the best choice both in general and point efficiency), plus 2/3 from the Smite, while the Deathsroud deal, if my math is right, 15.5 wounds, killing 5 Paladins.

Welp, we know who the big dick of heavy infantry are now. As long as we don't wake the Custodes, that is.

>> No.56323948

Girlfriend (normie) and I (AS) have been watching Dexter. Even if he doesn't have it in name, Dexter has too many AS traits. (Heck, Dexter + Autism makes for a fairly amusing google search).

>Brilliant technician, stupid at social stuff.
>Completely misses when he's being hit on.
>Takes stuff literally/at face value. Believed his fiance when she said she didn't want a ring.
>Wished he had "a manual" for understanding social rules.
>Innocently blunt.

>> No.56323949

Because you don't use Reikland Fleshshade apparently

>> No.56323956

I think the only precedent for skin tone changing was from the old description of Black Orcs from Warhammmer Fantasy IIRC, where the older and tougher they got the darker their skin became, so like how you're picturing it. But in 40k, IIRC, there's no precedent for Orks changing skin tones, just a few mentions here and there of Bosses having much more scarred skin and pock marks. The only thing I think I recall of an Ork getting paler was that Grukk or someone from the Red Waaagh! was once dropped/dumped in acid or a sewer or whatever which bleached his skin.

>> No.56323962

Daemon worlds often feature nothing but daemons - i.e. not food. Also about "most worlds in the galaxy and therefore the Rift are barren" is unclear to you?

Also, the worlds are explicitly to help Kronos grow faster, not just sustain it. Overflow from Leviathan's larder:

>> No.56323963

I own it, but it makes the faces too dark in my opinion.

>> No.56323964

Shading and highlight makes or break it.

You have to have a real good sense of balance with values.

>> No.56323966

Naw, young Orks are a more saturated vibrant green and older ones are more faded. He's right.

>> No.56323967

Any of the statted primarchs vs the swarmlord. Who wins in crunch and lore?

>> No.56323968

Autistic are not super.
It is a version of mental retardation.
To put it simple they use all their brain power to do a couple of things super good.
Instead of being normal and do everything good.

>> No.56323999

But anon normal humans only use 10% of their brains power.

>> No.56324007

No no, the idea is that after the hyperbolic time chamber that is Octarius he's approaching Beast levels. Come on, even the lore points towards him becoming the second coming of the Beast, and Orks get bigger and stronger the more they fight.

The big dick character power level used to be chapter master, which is why Dante, Calgar, Logan and all those were the benchmark and stuff like the Avatar of Khaine and the Swarmlord were roughly on their level, a bit over because hey, they're giant monsters. Then Primarchs came back because Marines' couldn't not be the biggest (literally biggest, which is retarded) and baddest guys on the tabletop. So everything else should (and in most cases plausibly could) get a leg up to match.

>> No.56324009

Do I pay for the weapon I'm replacing too?

>> No.56324013

I believe you'd need to pick a Hive Fleet for the Swarmlord if you want a crunch answer.

>> No.56324018


>> No.56324020

Only for relics.

>> No.56324024

Why would it? The intended audience for sigmarines is the kind of Marine player that spergs out whenever Marines lose in lore because they are teh emprahs fureh, not Tau players.

>> No.56324025

>Daemon worlds often feature nothing but daemons - i.e. not food

Not all of the worlds near the Rift are daemon worlds. Look at the map and you will see known planets full of life near the Rift.

>Also about "most worlds in the galaxy and therefore the Rift are barren" is unclear to you?

For millions of years, the races of the galaxy have been terraforming and settling the planets of the galaxy. Most worlds are barren nonsense does not fly.

>the worlds are explicitly to help Kronos grow faster

No, the text implies that it needs the biomass to conduct it wars.

>> No.56324028

So orks are like balloons?
Limited pigment on a surface that stretches and dulls?

>> No.56324029

Made me respond/10
I hate this retarded meme about the 10%
What's next teenager years are full blown gender dysphoria?

>> No.56324041

Not at all, it just takes something that 100% happened (thanks Ward) and tries to spin it so Mortarion looks less like a bitch. Which is how it should be.

>> No.56324042

They do.

>> No.56324045

Would Casting Hammerhand or Sanctuary change the results by much as opposed to smiting?

>> No.56324059

Preach. Primarchs in 40k were a mistake. So was 30k in general.

At least it serves as a containment area for all the marinefags who wish the setting was nothing but power armour.

>> No.56324061

Who won? Because that's a clear indicator of who's right.

>> No.56324064


>> No.56324082

That wasn't me by the way. I'll pass on the apologizing, though. Feel free to spend your time trawling through the archive, I want to see it.

>> No.56324092


>Tau blowing the shit out of stupid Khorne faggots
>good idea fairy arrives
>charge into melee
>"this does not end well for the Tau"

I'm torn between how hilariously bad that writing is but that one fucking line saved it. Not as torn as those Tau though.

>> No.56324099

No, Leviathan's new fluff says it's leaving excess worlds to help Kronos and Hydra grow faster since they're new to the scene and it has so much biomass already.

You really don't know how many planets are in the galaxy, do you?

>> No.56324105

What am I looking at?

>> No.56324121

Im still artound. Thx.

>> No.56324123

Do you think the Tau were infected with narcissism when they killed Slaanesh too?

>> No.56324124

Is he still a thing or did he fall through the cracks of editions and retcons? I guess we'll see in the Daemons codex, looking forward to that one.

Really the only boring codices are the marine ones, everyone else has so much cool shit.

>> No.56324133

So upgrades like exarch stuff

>> No.56324137

That's one big dwarf.

>> No.56324138

>Leviathan's new fluff says it's leaving excess worlds to help Kronos and Hydra grow faster since they're new to the scene and it has so much biomass already.

What page?

It's not bad writing. It hearkens to the fact that the T'au still have the darkness of the Mont'au within them. The daemons exploited that and unleashed the hatreds and rage that the T'au long have suppressed.

>> No.56324154

>belakor is a novelty to the dark gods
>belacuck so butthurt he tries changing the narrative to ignore the daemon primarchs that replaced him

>> No.56324157

>This does not end well for the T'au.

My fucking sides. This is retarded, but in a good way.

>> No.56324174

Dunno, I dont have the Aeldari Codex.

>> No.56324185

Are Daemon Princes worth taking?

>> No.56324188

>I'm torn between how hilariously bad that writing
>Earlier in their history, the Tau were a culture built upon warring tribes. During this time, the Tau's legends tell of the first appearance of the Ethereals at the city of Fio'taun. The fortress city of Fio'taun was under assault by the Tau warriors from the plains. Though negotiation had been attempted, the fierce plains warriors would settle for nothing less than the annhilliation of the city of Fio'taun.

Tau were bloodthirsty barbarians prior to the Ethereal. This fluff just explains that the Tau still have that nature. The Ethereals just surpress it. And the God of Rage can awaken it. What a surprise.

>> No.56324205

>It hearkens to the fact that the T'au still have the darkness of the Mont'au within them.

Yeah you're right anon. I forgot about how that Bloodthirster fucked with the Blood Angels in a similar way. Didn't think about that and it's given me a bit more insight.

Still fucking love that "didn't end well for them" line though.

>> No.56324211

Unless otherwise stated, a unit starts out with no weapons, you have to pay for each one, including any upgrades you take (like tomb blade shield vanes). Relics are technically free, but you still have to pay for the corresponding weapon (You need to buy a Power Maul in order to give a Chaos Marine the Black Mace).

>> No.56324213

>Tau fire caste now losing their soldiers in numbers normal for IG, orks and Nids

what did GW mean by this?

>> No.56324215

"The gods will fall, and the warp will howl at the foot of my throne".


The Gods will pay for their betrayal.

>> No.56324222

Yeah, it's definitely the smart choice. Hammerhand adds 2 wounds dealt by the Paladins, so that's another Deathshroud dead. Sanctuary drops the damage dealt by the Deathshrouds from 15.5 to 11.6, so it's the clear winner.

Bear in mind though that this is all just contextless mathhammer in a vacuum, and killing dudes will obviously drop the damage they do. Even with units as tough as terminators (and deathshroud in particular), shit dies in 8th, so whoever goes first kills enough of the other to win, realistically speaking.

>> No.56324225


Sadly this works only on an already decent model.
For the current GW sister, you can't save their manly face.
There has been more than twice the amount of time between the current sister mold and today than the original rogue trader and the mold.

>> No.56324233

Of course they can, it just happens less. No one said they were immune.

>> No.56324246

Hammerhand would probably be clutch since they're using Halberds, not Warding Staves, but I didn't check all of anon's math.

I don't think it's particularly interesting because the Paladins have no reason to willingly get into a melee fight with the Deathshroud to begin with, instead of pressing their superior mobility and shooting output.

>> No.56324255

They're good buff units that can tank snipers and hit in melee.

>> No.56324256

I wonder how many daemons and chaos servants have said stuff like that. Abaddon and Be'lakor both seem to be under the illusion that the Chaos gods can be beaten by anything except than retroactively killing all life in the galaxy, or possibly every galaxy.

>> No.56324266

Means they can't into numbers, as usual.

But really, losing millions in a planet-wide assault isn't actually unrealistic at all. It's just that Guards, Orks and Nids should consequently go up to the billions, or even trillions.

>> No.56324267

Well yeah, thats usually the way it goes. Whomever gets the charge gets to win.
If we take it in context of void, though, I think the Paladins might also have the advantadge at range, since they can just kite and shoot the Deathshroud, or use Gate to jump exactly 24" away from them, since the Deathshroud only have flamers, right?

>> No.56324287

Right. 5 Paladins with a pair of Psycannons or Psilencers and Gate could reliably kite Deathshroud indefinitely, so the Deathshroud would have to deep strike in and hope they make the charge, which is very unlikely.

>> No.56324295

Btw, I just realized you miscalculated the Paladins, you only get 8 of them since they cost 55 ppm, meaning that 8 = 440 points

>> No.56324315

True. Paladins all come with storm bolters, but those don't so much as tickle Deathshrouds, and take two heavy weapons (incinerator, psylencer or psycannon) per five, none of which are super great at dealing with them.

Basically deathshrouds are super expensive and unlikely to make their points back unless you can deep strike them and put them against high priority targets, and Paladins have better stuff to be doing with their time. I guess on an empty table the Paladins can just try to shoot them and Gate of Infinity every turn, but it'll take quite a while and leave everyone feeling rather stupid.

>> No.56324318


>> No.56324329

Leviathan timeline, last page.

>> No.56324377

The CSM Daemon Prince gives rerolls to both Legion and Daemons aligned to the same god as itself, is a 2+ to hit for both, is a psyker with 1 power and deny, can take a pretty decent gun, the talons are good for dealing with chaff, the sword and axe are decent at character or monster hunting, and a CSM Daemon Prince Aligned to Slaanesh in the Emperor's Children Legion can be a Warlord with the Stimulated by Pain Warlord Trait, be equipped with 2 Malefic Talons and the Intoxicating Elixir, and cast Diabolic Strength on itself for 12 attacks being made at Strength 10 -2AP D2, as well as having access to Delightful Agonies for a 5+ FnP instead of Diabolic Strength because 11 attacks made at strength 8 is still going to wreck face so much and Delightful Agonies is worthwhile staying power.

>> No.56324385

Yeah, I wasn't counting the Storm Bolters, but allowed the slight overhead since it's not exactly rigorous anyway.

Mind you, a pair of Psycannons or Psilencers don't kill even a single Deathsroud a turn. Hell, the two Psilencers don't even deal an unsaved wound on average.

>> No.56324682

Well yes and no. Vocations DO end up with career opportunities, but they make up the overwhelming minority because the guard needs so much infantry. Even tank operators can have long careers and make it to retirement with a decent chance for example.

>> No.56325054

Those are wellies.

>> No.56325575

In which book is it said that black rage predated Sanginus?

>> No.56325963

>not SpurdOrk edition

>> No.56326316

>Death Guard
>powerless without psykers
what is this fuckery

>> No.56326571

When we just want to throw dice or test new things on the fly.

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