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Thread question: post the book which has defined your conception of fantasy

Also, is the Chronicles of Narnia worth reading at all or no?

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>>56298472
>post the book which has defined your conception of fantasy

The only part of it which doesn't routinely show up in my fantasy games is the gods playing an active role in mortal affairs.

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>>56298472

>> No.56298972

>>56298472
>Also, is the Chronicles of Narnia worth reading at all or no?

God Tier
>Prince Caspian
>Voyage of the Dawn Treader

Good Tier
>The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe
>A Horse and His Boy

Okay Tier
>The Magician's Nephew

Shit Tier
>The Silver Chair
>The Last Battle

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>>56298472
>Thread question: post the book which has defined your conception of fantasy
Not fantasy, but post-(post-post-post-post...post-)collapse science fiction. Good inspiration for games like Gamma World.

>> No.56299063

How is Malazan? I tried reading the first chapter of Gardens of the moon but blech, does it really worth it?

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>>56298472
>Adventurers gathered by a mysterious/powerful benefactor
>Get given a map and key to a giant hoard of loot guarded by a dragon
>Quest across the land fighting random encounters
>Give elves the finger as you pass by
>Defeat the evil dragon through absurd means the GM never intended
>Argue with party about who has what rights to which treasures in the hoard
>Ignore the rest of the campaign politics your GM author has set up
>Return home with magic items and gold

It's the quintessential fantasy adventure for me, having been read it at 7 years old it's colored the majority of Keep It Simple Stupid approach to GMing.

>> No.56299217

>>56299120

Arguably it's the elves giving the finger to the dwarves.

Also

>having the OP PC getting batshit insane but dying an epic rediming death

>> No.56299276

>>56299217
>Arguably it's the elves giving the finger to the dwarves.
Not with that barrel escape, fuck you and your shitty knife-eared prison guards.

I guess I should also add:
>Getting imprisoned for insulting legitimate authority, followed by prison break
Unusually common in my games....

>> No.56299300

>>56299276
>fuck you 'elves' and your shitty knife-eared prison guards.
Not fuck "you" in paticular

>> No.56299317

Watership Down

>> No.56299320

>>56298472
>Also, is the Chronicles of Narnia worth reading at all or no?
I liked it as a kid (even if the constant deus ex machina bullshit annoyed me). I reread some of it as an adult, and found it really hard to get past the whole Christian allegory.

>>56298972
Which is the one where they're exploring all those islands? I want to say it's the Voyage of the Dawn Treader, since they're on the Dawn Treader, but I think I remember it not being that, so maybe it's Prince Caspian? Well, whichever one it was, that was my favorite, at least from what I recall.

>> No.56299324

>>56298472
I stumbled upon "The Two Towers" in middle school with zero idea about what it was. I skipped half a period ready about Aragorn running through the woods and discovering Boromir atop a pile of bodies.
Was hooked.

>> No.56299325

>>56299276

Eh, but in that case it was rightful. Don't even remember what was Trhanduil's problem.
I'm talking about the elves in Rivendell that seem to bully the dwarves because why the fuck not.

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>>56298472
>Also, is the Chronicles of Narnia worth reading at all or no?

Absolutely, you fucking pleb.

>> No.56299343

>>56299120
>Defeat the evil dragon through absurd means the GM never intended
DM's mary sue NPC he just introduced kills the main bad guy in one shot.

>> No.56299380

>>56299317

My Holland Lop friend.

I really want to play The Warren, damn.

>> No.56299417

>>56299325
Mm, fair. Still hasn't stopped my group's frequent tradition of screwing with NPC elves whenever possible, as is the dwarven/human tradition.

>>56299343
I was thinking more of Bilbo talking the dragon out of his lair only to get shot down, but this is also true.

>> No.56299446

>>56299217
>rediming

>> No.56299474
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The prequel to the unauthorized, serial-numbers-filed-off sequel to Lord of the Rings. So basically a retelling of LotR that's better paced with fewer plot points that don't hold together. There's no Gandalf-type, no ring, and no Gollum, and the hobbit stand-ins are badass archers. The drawbacks? Well, other than being hugely derivative, the writing can be a bit young adult-y. It's hard to rate it above LotR, since it's pretty much the literary equivalent of a cover song, but I sure enjoyed it a lot more.

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>> No.56299483

>>56299417

It's kinda funny how much Bilbo seems OP as fuck actually.

>> No.56299504

>>56299474

That second cover shows off way cooler Ring Wraiths.

>> No.56299553

>>56299324
>>56299478
I not a fan of The Two Towers. On three different occasions (separated by many years), I tried to get through LotR. Each time it was The Two Towers that did me in. The first time I got maybe a bit more than 1/3 of the way through before walking away. The second time, maybe a bit more than 1/2 of the way. The last time, maybe a bit more than 2/3 of the way before giving up in disgust.

>> No.56299571

>>56299474

I'll admit, I fucking loved the Iron Tower trilogy.

To this day, warrows have replaced hobbits as my campaigns' halflings.

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GoAT, coming through.

>> No.56299649

>>56299504
The Ghuls, or Ghols, are undead humanoids mounted on Helsteeds, who act as leaders of the Rucks, Hloks, and Ogrus. They are very hard to kill, with wood through the heart, beheading, and dismemberment being the only things that are sure to work.

>> No.56299678

>>56299483
Bilbo was the only experienced PC at the table, knows how to fight smart and actually roleplay to his advantage. Everyone else at the table heard "quest for dwarven treasure" and showed up with a dwarven fighter functionally identical to each other.

>> No.56299694

>>56299649
sick

>> No.56299760

>>56299571
>To this day, warrows have replaced hobbits as my campaigns' halflings.
They don't bumble around, do stupid shit, and basically trip over victory. When there's fighting on the ramparts, they're right up there with everybody else. (I will say that even though they call themselves warrows, I always liked what everybody else called them: waerlinga.)

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Disregarding the edgy shit, which it fairly has a lot of, there's some good ground of urban fantasy in the series that appeals to me. Especially considering urban fantasy wasn't really my shit before it.

And as for the more traditional stuff, I'd say Night Angel as a hardy example.

>> No.56299772

>>56299578
I really want to see pre-New Sun Urth through the eyes of someone other than Severian, just because he doesn't seem to care about anything but himself, girls, and how cool his sword is.

>> No.56299859

>>56299760
I like the linguistic variations in the book, so that what are Hloks (essentially hobgoblins) to a Warrow are Drokha (Valon), Lokha (Pellar), Loka (Elf) and Hroks (Dwarf) to others. They're similar enough that you know what people are talking about without having to look shit up, but it still makes the world seem like it has more depth.

>> No.56299923

>>56299772
If you want a less biased overview of the setting, the GURPS sourcebook is pretty decent.

>> No.56300039

>>56299649
All the evil creatures -- rucks (~goblins), hloks (~hobgoblins), ghuls (~ghouls), ogru (~ogres/trolls/giants), vulgs (~wargs), etc. -- have been cursed with Adon's Ban following their defeat in the last great war (before the planes were sundered) and wither and die in sunlight. So their conquest of the realm is only possible with the dimmendark, a magical darkness that spreads across the land, choking out the sun.

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I'm surprised A Wizard of Earthsea doesn't get brought up more often.

>> No.56300111

>>56299553
That's strange, the two towers is literally my favorite book of the series. The Fellowship is comfy but slow, and the return of the king is too crowded. The two towers is perfect pacing for me, and has my favorite part in the book trilogy (shelob)

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I tried to start the Wheel of Time series and gave up midway through book 2. Is it worth reading? His prose is unbearable sometimes

>> No.56300148

>>56299578
I'm 'reading' this at the moment. I loved it when it was him in the torturer's tower, a really nice grounded slow burn, but the moment he steps outside it's all Wacky Adventures and Colourful Characters

idk if I can be bothered continuing

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I think I have strong liking for doomed or apocalyptic worlds because of it.

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You guys would really like this if you gave it a shot

>> No.56300216

>>56300111
I'm not alone. As far as I can tell, virtually everybody who got at least a decent way into the first book (and didn't stop after like 20 pages or something), either made it all the way through the series, or were bested by The Two Towers. Speaking for myself, The Two Towers doesn't seem very well put together, and there were a number of moments I just didn't buy. The whole confrontation with Wormtongue, for instance, as well Gollum swearing on the ring and being bound by it until he suddenly wasn't anymore. Then there was the undoing of the striking plot point of Gandalf getting killed, and the whole "white rider" nonsense. And the hobbits futzing about. The Two Towers is what convinced me that not only was Tolkien bad at telling a story, but also at creating the plot in the first place. Great world-building, but the actual narrative, itself, is mediocre at best. Tolkien is way overhyped.

>> No.56300239

>>56300148
Everybody I know loves the book, but I found it to be dull and lifeless.

>> No.56300262

>>56300148
Book of the New Sun is a good series but it really is dense and convoluted. People will tell you you have to experience it with virgin's eyes the first time, but I think its way more enjoyable if you read some spoilers and fan theories as you go along so you dont have to read all 5 books twice to get the interesting bits.

>> No.56300300

>>56300262
I'd say it depends on what you're used to reading. If you're most used to hoighty-toighty HIGH LITERATURE and are a bit more patient, yeah, read it with virgin eyes the first time, then go back and reread it, maybe with some of analysis books close at hand.

If you're more interested in the setting and the story itself, then feel free t read the fan theories as you go.

>> No.56300460

>>56298972
>running a voyage of the dawn treader inspired dnd campaign

i love it
>>56299320
yeah, dawn treader.

>> No.56300505

M o u s e G u a r d

>> No.56300650

>>56300193
Good but dense as hell. Maybe I'm thick as shit but it took me quite a few readthroughs to even get it.

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<= best of slav fantasy

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This and the early Artemis Fowl books make for some great Shadowrun fuel. Although I could also see Artemis played as the young heir to a Rogue Trader.

>> No.56301311

>>56301198
thats helpful, perhaps an English translation?

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>>56301311
Apparently no english translation BUT it has been translated in french as Kabir. here is english synopsys 4U http://lib.ru/OLDI/fragments_engl.txt_with-big-pictures.html#1

Short summary: Swords are sentient and train humans as their wielders. As it is a way of long term investment only light weapons can train their humans themselves others have to wait for years before wielder is ready to maim/kill there are no murders and violence is incomprehensible. Story is about our party going on a quest find out why are there are murders happening and how to prevent more of them.

It does amazing job of creating a society that is and completely alien and completely believabe.

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Can get annoying when GMs/that guys try to constantly reference his work (much like Monty Python fans), but I love me some Pratchett.

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Princess of Mars, hands down.
Sword and Planet is my fetish genre and I really wish there was more stuff set in it.

It's super outdated, and suffers from Deux Ex Machina, but damn do I love it.

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Don't hate me too much for this.

>> No.56303491

>>56300135
Yes. It's one of my favourites.
I actually enjoy the pacing and the prose. It's definitely very slow at times and has a lot of descriptions of shit that doesn't matter (like Tolkien), but damn do I love that useless rambling.

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>>56303428
Ever read anything be Leigh Brackett? I like Sword and Planet a lot as well and she seems to have written a few works that fit the criteria.

What about some classic swashbuckling novels? I know Three Musketeers and Scaramouche but I need more.

>> No.56303765

>>56298472
Read the Bible instead, the Chronicles of Narnia is it's cheap rip off.

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It even had an RPG build around it so I think it counts.

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>>56298472
Fafhrd & Gray Mouser, no question. It's the perfect tone for tabletop games.

>> No.56304632

>>56300135
As a teenager I got somewhat far in Wheel of Time and it just isn't that good.

>> No.56304668

>>56299063
It's an excellent series, but Gardens is the literary equivalent of being handed a sharp stick and thrown into the trenches at the Somme. Persevere, it's worth it.

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Was surprised how good original Conan stories were.

>> No.56304699

>>56303428
ERB is god-tier pulp fiction fantasy.

>> No.56304700

Any good indie recs for s&s or heroic fiction? Something along the lines of Gemmell for heroic or Gotrek and Felix for s&s

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Nobody for the Vietnam War of fantasy? Really?

also >>56299063 >>56304668 apparently Cook's fantasy-military writing was a huge inspiration for Erikson's Malazan Marines.

>> No.56304755

>>56303331
I would have picked Fifth Element.

Political plot involve a dwarf king, murderous werewolf aristocrats, and a party of various classes and fantasy races all working for a foreign police force being sent as representatives for the coronation but end up fighting against a conspiracy?

That would be one hell of a campaign.

>> No.56304764

>>56304755
God I actually made a typo on Fifth Elephant and wrote the name it was supposed to be parodying.

>> No.56304790

>>56304739
I've been reading this series and I'm up to She is the Darkness. One of the things I have enjoyed most in the series is Goblin and One-Eye's never ending feud. You just don't know how they're going to fuck things up for the Company once they get into it.

>> No.56305761

>>56300135
I read up through book 11 over 2 years, and then he fucking died. I still don't know how the series ends. There are a billion characters and a thousand plot threads, and I know if I tried picking it up with the Brandon Sanderson ones I wouldn't get much out of it.

The series is okay. I really enjoyed some of it, but a lot of it didn't stick with me.

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Tee Bee Aitch my defining fantasy is probably Discworld - Pratchett's dwarfs and wizards are especially good

But if you are looking for alternate fantasy races to round out your campaign:

Anvil of the World by Kage Baker features some really cool dwarf/elf/demon societal relations. Her "Company" series of time-travel cyborg shenanigans is my favorite series of all time, but her fantasy is good too.

And "The Goblin Emperor" by Katherine Addison is top tier comf and a really cool depiction of elves and goblins.

>>56300068
Earthsea took me a few tries to get into but once I did I was hooked.

>> No.56306465

>>56305953
>Earthsea took me a few tries to get into but once I did I was hooked.
Really? Did the subject matter just not grab you at first or something? Because it's not a long book, and I think it's written in a very accessible style (it's often categorized as "young adult" on this basis, even though it's in no way juvenile).

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Has anyone here read pic related, or anything else by Tamora Pierce?

I love what she writes: it's always the perfect blend of engaging and comfy.

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This.

>> No.56306842

>>56298972
>Dawn Treader
My African-American companion

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>>56304683
>tfw he blew his brains out in his late twenties
We could have had so much more

>> No.56307010

>>56306465
Not him, but when I first read it in like middle school it felt rather dense in terms of prose.

I wish there was more like it. The other books are pretty great too.

>> No.56307026

>>56300135
In a lot of ways I agree with >>56305761 I very much enjoyed reading them, but little of it "stuck" with me. He's got a lot of clever wordplay and mythological annotation, and I at least enjoyed it when reading, but outside of a few clever puns, I can't look back on it and say "oh wow, this was great".

That being said, I did not really like the first two books, and I thought ones 3-6 were the highlight of the series, when the main trio stops simply reacting to events and starts trying to do their own thing.

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>>56298472
I know now that it the Hero Journey to a tee, but to my 10 year old self it was mindblowing.

My grandfather is a huge book nerd with a library that would make most people on this board cream their pants.
He took a look at the books I was bringing home from the school library and scoffed. He handed me the Pawn of Prophecy and I read it all that very night. Truly it was one of the greatest gifts that man has ever given me, not just the book series, but an appreciation for reading and delving into fantasy and sci-fi.

Now his health is declining and his memory isn't the same after his minor stroke, he's re-reading as much of his library as he can to enjoy his favorites one last time. A few of them he's forgotten all about and it's like he's reading it for the first time... even though he read them only a month previously

>> No.56307135

>>56307026
>>56305761
>>56300135
I picked up the second book and I think fell prey to the "Seinfeld syndrome".
On top of the underwhelming prose, you've got the farmboy Chosen One, a magic sword or something I think, your basic Aragorn, and an evil cult of a BBEG meeting to discuss their diabolical plans.
The only interesting things were the intro blurb about the Wheel of Time, the matriarchal mage nobility thing they set up and I recall magic being well described. Farmboy and Aragorn were practicing swordfighting and they get hit with like a magical shockwave or something.
I didn't read much of it in any case.

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>>56307071
Man, Anon, these are some real feels to have this early in the morning. I'm sorry about your grandfather, and make sure that you spend as much time with him as you can before he has to move on.

>> No.56307314

>>56307071
I don't know why, but most david eddings book I have read have some really interesting things, but half the time the person relations are so awkwardly cringey shit that it's impossible to go through them. It's like the guy never had a normal relationship or something.

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>>56307168
Cheers dude, I'm trying my best but I live and work 30 miles away. He's being cared for and lives with my family in my hometown so he's well looked after. It can be hard though, every time my mother phones I have this fear that something has happened to him, but he's mostly stable.

Though everytime I visit I go home with at least 2 or 3 books that he loans me "to have a little leaf through and see what you think". It's a privilege and a special honor that he trusts me with his collection. Some of them kinda rare first or second editions. I overheard him chatting with my mother one night over a glass of wine saying that he plans to put a large amount of his collection in his will for me, had to hold back some manly tears in the next room

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>>56298472
I remember reading The Hobbit in second grade, but the book that really bit me with the fantasy bug was pic related (really, all 5 books are top-tier). The Post-Roman Celtic shtick has been my jam ever since, and really influenced my feelings regarding giants in a fantasy setting, giving them the role of once-mighty society that was forced into hiding by the predations of man.

>> No.56307375

>>56307337
That's some hard shit. You should sit down with him and catalog his all time favourites. I'd love to read some of the stuff he loves too.

>> No.56307405

>>56307071
I am ashamed. I read your post and instantly thought "lucky grandfather, he gets the pleasure of reading his favorite books for the first time again." I know that it's more serious than that, and I feel really bad and really sorry for thinking it.

Have hope anon. People recover from minor strokes, and I'm sure someone as brilliant as your grandfather will be fine.

>> No.56307421

>>56298472
Narnia was my childhood, and like star wars it invokes nostalgia whenever i see or read it. I don't know how good it is, since i cannot objectively judge it, but i'd say give it a read.

>> No.56307438

>>56299063
yes, take my word for it it is going to get great, it touches on a lot of modern themes.

>> No.56307544

>>56307375
Pratchett would probably be his pick of favourite if you put a gun to his head and told him to choose one.
He took his death very hard, I saw him the morning after the announcement of his death sleeping at his chair at the top of the dining table with an empty bottle of whisky and at least 4 Pratchett hardbacks in his "finished pile" and a couple more in his "still to read" pile.

Otherwise Anne McCaffrey, David Gemmel, David Eddings, Ursula LeGuin and others are all amongst his favourites. He always says that Tolkien's work was a bit stuffy but very important to fantasy.
He told me once over a few drinks how Tolkien started writing to make a "playground" in which Elvish and Dwarven languages make sense, as language comes from and evolves because of culture and events, not the other way round.
I could pick his brain for hours, and I'm sure I'll never meet another man like him if I lived for a thousand years.

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>>56307544
>I saw him the morning after the announcement of his death sleeping at his chair at the top of the dining table with an empty bottle of whisky and at least 4 Pratchett hardbacks in his "finished pile" and a couple more in his "still to read" pile.

I think it's raining, Anon.

>> No.56307650

>>56307314
The world building is really good in the Belgariad and the Mallorean, and its expanded upon hugely in Belgarath and Polgara's "autobiographies" and in the Rivan Codex, which I shit you not has about 50 pages dedicated to how the currencies of the different nations looks, weighs and values compared to others.
I agree that some of the characters are meh or downright cringy, but always entertaining to some degree. For example Silk is supposed to be a morally grey rogue but just just as heroic and righteous as the rest, though some of his quips and jabs had me in tears.
Belgarath is possibly my favorite version of "old man with white beard and insane magic" in fantasy, because he feels real. When his wife died, he went and drank and fucked his way through half a civilization before his daughter tracked him down about 400-500 years later to stop his bender.

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I will just drop this here:
snip.li
/RPGNovels

any help with fills/contributions gratefully recieved.

>> No.56307767
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didn't define my conception of fantasy per se but fucked my shit up pretty good
it was a one-two punch as I began playing Baldurs Gate the following summer, and THAT defined my conception of fantasy

>> No.56307923

>>56298472
Golden Bough. While it is out of date a lot of the sins people accuse it of it doesn't actually commit.

>> No.56307944

>>56307923
Also the Bible.

>> No.56308244

>>56307405
Don't be ashamed anon, I hate to admit the thought flashed across my mind as well, mostly because of my wish to forget playing certain games, watching certain movies or reading certain books to enjoy them for the first time again.
Thankfully due to the NHS in Britain, if you can get someone suffering a stroke in 4 hours or less to hospital, they can almost fully reverse the effects for free, no questions asked. He was discharged a few days later. Unfortunately in this case it seemed that almost was the keyword. He's mostly the same as before, but it seems to have accelerated other degenerative brain problems he suffers from. He seems to have aged more in the past few years than in the past few decades. We are at a strange place as a family as every Christmas we seem to be gearing up for it being his last one with us, so we've been grieving in part for a few years, even though he always trucks on through to the next year.

>>56307168
>>56307375
>>56307578

Thanks for letting me "blog" about my shit guys. I know I'll never likely talk with you again knowingly, but its nice to see that when you shout into the void, sometimes... it cares and shares kind words and heartfelt love.

>> No.56308944

What is a good fantasy setting novel?
I mean a novel where it's clear there is more to the world than the main character and party and anyone in that world could stumble upon ancient dungeons and magical loot/power.
Most fantasy stories seem like "only the main character could do this because he is special and so is the antagonist and everyone else are basically just normalfag chumps in this magical world"
Where is muh dungeon fantasy?

>> No.56309099

>>56307544
Anon, your grandfather sounds amazing
Please cherish the time you still have with him for me, I lost both my grandfathers way too early and I always have wanted to have that one more drink with them to hear their stories

Thanks for sharing the books and wonderful story, it warmed my heart anon, it really did

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I adored these books as a child.

>> No.56309286

>>56308244
>We are at a strange place as a family as every Christmas we seem to be gearing up for it being his last one with us, so we've been grieving in part for a few years, even though he always trucks on through to the next year.
I know how this feels, sorta. My grandparents are both in their 80s, and while they're still happy (thank god) it's pretty clear that they're thinking more and more about their death. They always try to say "I love you" to family members as often as they can, as if its the last thing they'll get to say to the family.
Yesterday was my birthday, and my Grandfather gave me a ring he wore when he was younger. It's an amazing present, and I'm over the moon for receiving it, but it's disheartening when you think of why he thought now was an appropriate time to give it to me.

>> No.56309308

>>56309286
*still healthy

>> No.56309574

>>56308944
I have always tried to figure out how one should write an adventure novel, where adventurers actually are out in the wild the moment they set their foot out from the cities. Preferrably even in a way that human era hasn't even started and people aren't plentiful.

Always tried to balance out a novel concept constructed from short stories of adventurers of different people and how they might interconnect and meet each other in different stories in different times.

>> No.56309986

>>56304512
It was actually considered canon back in ADnD days, believe it or not. No literally, if you pick up the ADnD book that has all the gods you can worship in it, the gods from this book are in it. It's just the perfect tone, it literally *is* a tabletop story basically about a rogue and a barbarian dicking around and up to and including the DM saving them through divine intervention that they, as a character, can't see.

>> No.56310023

>>56299056
>When you rip off vonnegut and accidentally kickstart hitchhiker's guide

>But no one remembers you anyways and your work is attribute to vonnegut, who hates it and looks down on it

ahh jose

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>>56298472
This is a serious contemporary and competitor to LotR. If description and imagery is your think, Mervyn Peake will amaze you

Really good gloomy fantasy.

>> No.56310655

>>56299678
>Everyone else at the table heard "quest for dwarven treasure" and showed up with a dwarven fighter functionally identical to each other.
>dwarven fighters
kek.
no. Only a few, such as Thorin, Balin, and Gloin, participated in the Battle of Azunulbizar and the Dwarf and Goblin Wars, and had any real experience to be fighters, but most of them were peasants, smiths, craftsmen, etc.

>> No.56310715

>>56307349
I read these.
They were okay.
I enjoyed them as a child.
>tfw no deer gf
why live?

>> No.56311007

>>56310023
>When you rip off vonnegut and accidentally kickstart hitchhiker's guide
Please elaborate. I'm not in the know on whatever it is you're talking about.

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>>56298472
Not sure how this hasn't been posted yet

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>>56298472

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>>56298472
>Thread question: post the book which has defined your conception of fantasy
probably Lord of the rings, my dad read them to me before I could read.
The first fantasy book I remember reading was spellbreaker, definitely the book that put me on the path to P&P games

>Also, is the Chronicles of Narnia worth reading at all or no?
I'd say read it and make your own mind up, but I thought it was a bit "so-so"

>> No.56312873

>>56304739
I love how mortal men, fight immortal sorcerers and stand a chance.

>> No.56312892

>>56306652
the man sold the desert to me

>> No.56313038

all the beautiful cover art in this thread, im cryin anons

>> No.56313285

>>56303444
,,, no need to apologize for good taste, however mainstream it may be

>> No.56314070

Oh boy, I keep remembering my mother telling me as a child not to read LoTR and other classic stories because they were like "reading the Bible". In hindsight I think that was the stupidest thing I have ever had the privilege of hearing.

Now an Adult, I have been collecting and reading a lot of childrens novels that are quintessential the backbone for any tg child, simply because I never got the chance and my interest in writing one myself.

I got Aesop, Grimm, Chronicles of Narnia, The Jungle Book, Black Beauty, Watership Down, The "Ology" Books (Still bloody great) and a bunch of vintage fairy tales.

I feel like I've been ignoring Sci Fi and Time/Historical Books and Novels, seeing there's a lot of fantasy books and I want to collect some more not-so-traditional books.

What are some I can peruse through and add?

>> No.56314280

>>56314070
>Oh boy, I keep remembering my mother telling me as a child not to read LoTR and other classic stories because they were like "reading the Bible"
What? I don't get this reasoning. Were your parents, like, militant anti-theists or something?

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>>56298472
>I only play Deathwatch and Only War

>> No.56314601

>>56314280
She was incredibly dim and narcissistic. Most of my family is dyslexic and living on welfare.

>> No.56314707

>>56299553
Huh.
It's my favourite part of LotR, and probably just behind The Silmarillion for favourite Tolkien.
The Frodo and Sam parts are awfully slow, but the rest is a great time.

>> No.56314765

>>56310114

I dearly love Gormenghast, but I don't think it ever started anything.

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>>56312110
this, read in portuguese first so this cover is horrendous to me.

>> No.56314812

>>56314280
Some of the more woo-woo denominations of Christianity ban anything they see as competing with the Bible under a very wide interpretation of "thou shall have no other gods before me".

>> No.56314839

>>56298972
Except they're all Christian propoganda written for children, you fucking mong. Get a grip.

>> No.56314974

>>56300135
Ignore the retards telling you to persevere, since they obviously lack reading comprehension to even understand your post. If you didn't like the prose (why would you, it's dull as fuck) then bail out now. It literally never improves and he endlessly repeats himself across the 5 or 6 books I managed to get through before giving up. In case, you're wondering - this was when I was traveling sound SE Asia and it was the only book series I could consistently find in book markets. I still wish I'd just read fucking Dan Brown or some shit.

>> No.56315007

>>56304668
> it's worth it
Counterpoint: it absolutely isn't.

>> No.56315080

>>56307923
It's kind of necessary to bash it to ensure that people don't misconstrue what anthropology is/became, but yeah- it's actually still a great book and it should be required reading for any aspiring fantasy author or dm.

>> No.56315115

>>56312168
The first book is a bit facile, but shows promise as a story. Series almost immediately descends into meandering, puerile dogshit though.

>> No.56315283

>>56313285
> good taste
Kek. Read it if you want, that's cool. but don't try and talk shit. Literally the only positive thing about the endless stream of sub-YA pap Sanderson shits out every other month is that it makes good inspiration for DMs. This is because he's basically a prolific fluff writer that gets away with padding his interesting ideas out with the bare minimum of detail and characters and dialogue that should make any self respecting 13yr old yawn. For some reason fantasy has a long pedigree of embracing incredibly low standard of writing, as long as the author delivers quantity over quality.

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>>56301293
Mine negro of similar heritage, the Artemis Fowl books were great. I mean, at least until the Lost Colony, and the infamous 'holly' scene. After that, they were pretty bad.

>> No.56315337

>>56315283
>For some reason fantasy has a long pedigree of embracing incredibly low standard of writing, as long as the author delivers quantity over quality.
It's because even though nerds pretend they have eclectic tastes they're often quite easily-impressed.

>> No.56315352

ITT: an illuminating insight into why companies like wizards and GW get away with such abominable worrying these days. Get some standards yo.

>> No.56315375

>>56315352
*writing. The irony, it burns.

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I don't know if it defined the concept for me, but I fuckin love The Count of Monte Cristo.

>> No.56315659

>>56306481
Fuck yeah.

>> No.56315687

>>56314839
All stories are propaganda in some manner.

Better one that promotes Western morals than one that promotes mindless consumerism

>> No.56315754

>>56314839
From what I remember of reading them in middle school he ranked the most transparent cases of those lowest

>> No.56315816

>>56315687

>"western"

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>>56304739
I really enjoy his Instrumentalities of the night series

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As a kid, it had that fun blend of realism and the fantastic nature of the unknown that's helped get a style going for me. There's a reason Bunnies and Burrows is a thing.

>> No.56317199

>>56300068
>literally every adaptation gets his true name and nickname mixed up
How do so many people fuck up such a simple thing in exactly the same wrong way over and over?

>> No.56317334

>>56314812
Quick, nobody tell them that the Gospel of Mark is essentially a Chronicles of Narnia style retelling of Isaiah.

>> No.56317711

>>56315659
You have no idea how happy I am to know that another anon has read Wild Magic

>> No.56317742

>>56300135
First book is a decent but not amazing rip of the Fellowship (intentionally done, as publishers were happy to publish anything that was remotely a Tolkien derivative)

2nd book is a bit more original, and better in some areas, but the series doesn't really hit its stride until book 4. Pacing slows down from book 7 and goes out the window book 10, but returns in 11. Sanderson's last 3 books are usually praised, but some fans aren't entirely happy with his style when compared to RJ.

Also, a lot of the books themes and character attributes make a lot more sense when you realize RJ had really bad PDST from 'Nam, and he really really loved his wife (almost all major female characters have one aspect or another taken from her personality)

>> No.56317794

>>56304683
Loving that so far. My only complaint is that the art work, as nice as it is, has a tendency to spoil the stories.

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How's this one rank /tg/?

>> No.56317891

>>56317711
Still have my books somewhere around.

>> No.56317931

>>56317886
Those books were fantastic. Going back and re-reading them isn't quite the same as the nostalgia because they were intended for a YA audience, but despite that I think they still hold up really well.

>> No.56317940

>>56317891
I first 'read' it as an audiobook. A very good audiobook as well: they had the author as the narrator, and the VAs for each of the characters were perfect.

>> No.56318022

>>56317886

Oh heck yes. The worldbuilding holes stand out more to me now, but some elements I appreciate more as an adult than as a kid.

>> No.56318424

>>56317886
It was a great young adult series back in the day. I'm not how a re-read would hold up though, considering I'm an adult now.

>> No.56318500

>>56298972
I really like narnia, except i would pit Magician's Nephew and Horse boy in god tier. I just didnt care for dawn treader. Silver chair and the last one are the two I read least

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>>56317886
I could not get past episode 1.

>> No.56318992

>>56300135
I had a really hard time reading the books but the series always seemed interesting so I got the audible version. Having someone add inflection to the dialogue and slightly dramatize things goes a long way. If you're interested in it and have a hard time with Jordan's writing style, listen to the books, they are very good.

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>>56298472
I'm running a game set in The Wheel of Time and since reading it, it has helped me get out of the YA fantasy settings I grew up reading. Wheel of Time and Lord of the Rings with a little bit of the Forgotten Realms books make up most of my conception of fantasy. (and a bit of elder scrolls when I want things to get really wacky) But Wheel of Time has the the most interesting societal structures to me and it's my go to.

>> No.56319695

>>56317199

If I had to guess, I would say because Ged is more familiar to the readership.

>> No.56320066

Why is Michael Moorcock so hilariously shit?

>> No.56320174

>>56319037
"Okay, roll a Tug Braid check with a +5 because you're really peeved right now"

>> No.56320189

Tfw want to really read right now but I slept in a bad position and my neck hurts if a turn it just a little bit or if I stare in the same position for a long period of time.

>> No.56320194

>>56320189
Listen to an audiobook.

>> No.56320257

>>56320174
Lol no but I've found that making female NPC's based on the women in the books leads to players being more inclined to talk to them. The male players at least. Pretty interesting how much a cold shoulder and occasional emotion and sympathy can lead to memorable NPC's for them. The amount of "stone faced men" that pops up in the game is pretty funny though.

>> No.56320313

>>56299063
I actually read the books out of order the first time, started with number five I think. Gardens is a slog, hardest of them. going back after two or three and reading it works well enough, but it makes more sense if you persevere. Erikson wrote it based on a long running homebrew setting for GURPS he and Esselmont made. Grab the Ian C Esselmont malazan books, they fill in the gaps.

>> No.56320325

>>56299343
Bilbo was GM wrangling.
If you ever have an enemy you’re worried you can’t beat, you just point it at something the GM clearly favours.
Chances are they won’t resist chugging them beat it to show how awesome they are
More proof that bilbo was a PC

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>>56298472
>post the book which has defined your conception of fantasy
Not this book in particular, but the whole series of books set in the world of Ethshar did a lot to define my worldbuilding.

I still include elements from it in my settings, but the most important takeaway I got from the series is the importance of consistency in magic, and how it makes it satisfying to find clever ways to use magic to solve a problem, instead of feeling like an asspull.

>> No.56320411

>>56315687
No they're not, you twat. All stories argue for certain norms, but most decent stories bother to have a bit of fucking subtlety to them.

Also, the Narnia books are dull as shit. Every single conflict is resolved by "and then Jesus Lion appeared and fixed everything". It's so toothless. The only book that isn't like that is the Silver Chair, where the main characters actually do shit to solve their problems off their own backs.

The Hobbit is an infinitely better children's story, because it's not afraid to put its characters in a bit of genuine danger from time to time. It's not afraid to have its characters try and resolve their problems themselves, instead of waiting for an authority figure to fix everything for them.

>> No.56320457

>>56320356
On the note of magic and supernatural powers in general, what I enjoy is when they have clear limitations which people develop ways to overcome or bypass. Maybe the magic of your world relies on shamanism and totems, for example. Without a totem, you can't use magic, so you develop clever ways to keep yourself from being disarmed and work out ways to incorporate the properties of a totem into other objects.

>> No.56320487

>>56307674
I... I love you, anon. I think you should know that, now.

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>>56298472
The Accursed Kings series (French: Les Rois maudits) is a fun read

>> No.56321737

>>56320066
Tolkien related Sodium poisoning

>> No.56321780

>>56314812
YMMV. I was raised by Southern Baptists, and had LotR read to me at bedtime.

>> No.56321809

>>56314280
If I had to guess, it’s because it’s a long book, like the bible, and they were too retarded to handle a long book.

>> No.56322240

>>56318900

Ouch, that anime is a level of badness I honestly had not believed could exist outside of parody. I assure you, the BOOKS it was... loosely inspired by... are much better. (Which is a serious case of damned by faint praise, but still.)

>> No.56322333

>>56303428
I mean sword and planet coupled with old school sci-fi are what really shaped my style of gmining and story telling for better or worse so I'm right there with you fella.

>> No.56322911

>>56307674
Out & proud 4channer here - I never thought I'd say it, but: +1 upvote from me, pal.

>> No.56322970

I'm on a Swords and Sorcery/Weird Fiction kick. I alternate reading stories. The cycle goes Elric>Conan>Zothique>Fahfrd and the Gray Mouser. Any recommendations for short stories I can add to the cycle? I've got no patience for doorstoppers anymore.

>> No.56323036

>>56322970
Read your way through Amber. The ten-book cycle has a pretty high page count but the individual books aren't too long.

>> No.56323047

>>56315385
It's a crazy-ass story

>> No.56323048

>>56300068
I never managed to like anything LeGuin wrote.
Sci Fi or Fantasy, I always found her works to be fantastically dull reading.

But at least she's not Marion Zimmer Bradley.

>> No.56323066

>>56322970
Solomon Kane.

>> No.56323068

>>56300152
When he doesn't get all political and preachy, Moorcock is fairly fun to read.
I like the Hawkmoon books and the Corum books a lot too.

>> No.56323078

>>56303428
I assume you've read Leigh Bracket then?

The Sword of Rhiannon always was my favourite of hers.

Moorcock's Kane of Mars-series was decent as well.

>> No.56323089

>>56304683
I liked the Barn Mak Morn stories and the Kull ones as well.
A whole lot darker and gloomier but plenty good.

>> No.56323125

>>56315385
A good revenge story is always welcome.

In the sci-fi department I recommend Tiger, tiger! (a.k.a. The Stars my Destination).

>> No.56323145

>>56316478
He wrote some books about some fantasy world as well.
Shardik and Maya and one more, if I recall correctly.

Lots of fucking going on in Maya.

>> No.56323338

>>56307650
Someone should tell GRRM.

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>>56301293
>>56315295
>artemis fowl
holy shit does that take me back.
Used to love those books, but they did get stale after a while.
I think I read up to the Atlantis Complex, but I don't think I got through it.
I might give The Supernaturalist a shot. I remember reading The Wish List and thinking it was good.

>> No.56324063

Foundation series

>> No.56324065
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Anyone read the Septimus Heap series?
That was my favorite shit back when I was younger. Don't remember too much about it though

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>>56324063
this desu

>> No.56324175

>>56312110
On the subject of Rothfuss, apparently a /lit/ anon sent him an email a while back and his response was:

>Hello.

>Your vehement admiration is by no doubt unique. I thoroughly enjoy you going through the effort of reaching out to me, albeit I am completely clueless as what you ever hoped to achieve with that.
>Did you imagine me thanking you for your support? Did you imagine me giving you some half-assed words of encouragement?
>I am in the process of writing the next book in the series, did you think you would encourage me in some way? The only thing you have accomplished is wasting my time by responding to you when I could be writing the book. Are you happy with that? Does your ego feel fulfilled now that an author has finally replied to you, no doubt you've reached out to many authors, we know your kind. You have delayed my book, but I have no doubt you feel very good with yourself indeed, because you have received a response.

>With the upmost love and respect -

The cheeky cunt.

>> No.56324210

>>56298539
I feel like in most games Achilles would be the villain of this story. His single minded devotion to becoming legendary and achieving his destiny go pretty against the grain of modern fantasy standards.

>> No.56324450

>>56310715
Same here bruv.

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>>56323998
The Supernaturalist is a solid cyberpunk story, definitely worth the read.

Also, both it and the four first Fowl novels got comic book adaptations. Someone storytimed them all on /co/ last year, shouldn't have much trouble finding them by just searching for the titles in the archive. Although you should read the book before comics, especially since the art style is a bit peculiar. And french.

>> No.56324500

>>56324175
Wtf this can't be real.

>> No.56324536

>>56324469
I actually read the comic version of the first book before reading any of them. I went back and read the original afterwards, but my introduction to the series was through the comics

>> No.56324549

>>56324175
>upmost love and respect
>upmost
What a hack

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This series along with dragonsong/dragonrider were some of my faves as a kid reading. H8ball you want

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>>56324629

>> No.56324689

>>56324175
What a rude reply (assuming it is real, that is).

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I remember reading this when I was younger. Along with watership down and few others. There was this one series that had gems of power and the darker your color the more powerful you were. It was super weird with succubi or somesuch.

Anyone recommend some good assassin books? Or Anti-hero ones?

>> No.56324844

>>56307349

I loved the first one in this series. The later books were harder to get into.

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Can't believe nobody's mentioned the Oz books since the second post.

"Pirates in Oz" and its sequel "Captain Salt in Oz" were the fuckin' shit.

>> No.56325048

>>56324175
Wait, did he confirm it was Rothfuss? I remember he didn't want to say who it was but most people were guessing GRRM

>> No.56325108

>>56324469
Turns out the AF movie is set for 2019 and the director is Kenneth Branagh (he acted in and is the director for the new Murder on the Orient Express movie and was in Dunkirk. He also directed the original Thor movie)

>> No.56325109

>Tfw just finished Hyperion
Coolest thing I have read in ages. Just got done with quantum thief and sequels too, check it out if you are all right with being confused as fuck.

Why does nobody ever talk about Stephenson Anathem? some god tier world building going on there.

>> No.56325161

>>56324175
Did someone stuck life size dragon dildo up this guy's ass and forgot to pull it out?

>> No.56325396

This guy might be a good writer and all but nothing keeps him from being a total faggot

>> No.56325412

>>56325396
this, damn
>>56324175

>> No.56325421

>>56324469
Holly a cute

>> No.56325451

>>56323125
My brother! Still one of my favorites, bester is too under rated in my book.

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While Harry Potter was the first fantasy novel I've read, this one was the first that was really, well, fantastic.
Also satirical, but most of that went over my head back then.

>> No.56325717

>>56307544
Fuck bro, I know that feel, I loved my grandfather too. My father is a good man, good provider and we never wanted of anything, but we are very polar about what we like and its quite bad at personal interactions, but my grandfather teached me from constelations, animals, personal relations, medicinal herbs and sci fi series or books (Galactica, Star wars and Mazinger Z were some of his favorites) and had a fuckton of books from all kinds, heck he had a PC before the Town governament got his(and of course it was called afrodita A). He died when I was eight because he comited an error in a high tension cable. Still miss him, still remember him nearly everyday, treasure him bro.

>> No.56325865

>>56325451
It's just a good rip-roaring adventure.
I stole shamelessly from it in my old Cyberpunk 2013-campaign back in the day.

>> No.56326084

>>56320487
Aww <blushes> ASL? lol

>>56322911
mega.nz

/#F!hi4GSCrL!nv9paINMkV421khukl-mSw!h7ohBRAS
-another trove with lots of non-rpg fantasy

>> No.56326184

>>56315115
Sadly this, interesting first book with a cool premise and interesting world building, degenerates in not-muslism harem shit and shitty MC.

>> No.56326260

>>56324830
>gems of power and the darker your color the more powerful you were
Could be Seventh Tower series by Garth Nix. Not exactly what you're describing, but it's pretty close.

>> No.56326285

>>56325109
Stephenson writes books with great worldbuilding and plotting that end like wet farts.

>> No.56326381

>>56324065
Are there soldier beetles or some shit than mages did in that one?

>> No.56326405

>>56324830
Fucking feels.
After a few months the end Fitz didn't feel right.

>> No.56326506
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56326506

Apart of the Hobbit/LoTR, Harry potter, Conan, Lovercraft and lots of euro-comics and history, my first taste of fantasy was Dragonlance. The first trilogy was very good for me, I got a special edition with notes and stuff and got hooked. Shame the majority of spin off are trash.

>> No.56326656

>>56314776
Holy shit that cover is incredible.

>> No.56326692

So are any of the Warhammer books worth reading? Either fantasy or 40k.

>> No.56326935
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>>56324175
Does it surprise you that the man who wrote this shit is a cunt?
>In high-school Pat was something of a class clown. His hobbies included reading a novel or two a day and giving relationship advice to all his friends despite the fact that he had never so much as kissed a girl. He also role-played and wrote terrible stories about elves. He was pretty much a geek.
>For the next seven years Pat studied anthropology, philosophy, eastern religions, history, alchemy, parapsychology, literature, and writing. He studied six different martial arts, practiced improv comedy, learned how to pick locks, and became a skilled lover of women. He also began writing a satirical advice column which he continues to this day: The College Survivial Guide. Through all of this he continued to work on his novel.
>Now Pat teaches half-time at his old school as an assistant-sub-lecturer. He is underpaid but generally left alone to do as he sees fit with his classes. He is advisor for the college feminists, the fencing club, and, oddly enough, a sorority. He still roll-plays occasionally, but now he does it in an extremely sophisticated, debonair way.

>> No.56327040

>>56325012
oh yeah love the oz books

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>>56324469
The edits were a fun ride

>> No.56327923

>>56326692
I like the "Blood on the Reik" trilogy by Sandy Mitchell.

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>> No.56328596

>>56324210
To be fair, in the Odyssey when Odysseus visits the underworld Achilles' feelings about fame and glory are questionable.

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Don't judge me. Only the Cauldron Born can judge me

>> No.56329284

>>56329255
Who would judge you? Those things were GREAT. The Iron Ring is top-tier too.

>> No.56329360
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56329360

>>56326506
Either
A) Posers ITT are a very atypical bunch. or
B) People are lying and afraid to admit that Harry Potter's septemology was a big influence on them.

>> No.56329429

>>56329360
Or we're oldfags. The first Harry Potter book came out when I was in middle school, and that section of "Kid's fantasy" was represented to me by Pryddain and the Susan Cooper Dark is Rising books. (Both of which IMO are considerably better, but that might just be because I read them first and they did have a greater impact on me)

At least in my anecdotal experience, the only people who are really influenced by the Harry Potter books are the ones who read them as their first fantasy series.

>> No.56329437

>>56329429
This. I was in highschool when they came out.

>> No.56329558

>>56329360
They’re absolute trash.
>afflicted werewolf who happens to have the name Remus Lupin
Go fuck yourself, Rowling.

>> No.56329773

>>56329360
"No!"

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>>56329360
Or maybe they had the luxury of going through childhood without being interested in one of the dullest franchises in the history of movie franchises. Seriously each episode following the boy wizard and his pals from Hogwarts Academy as they fight assorted villains has been indistinguishable from the others. Aside from the gloomy imagery, the series’ only consistency has been its lack of excitement and ineffective use of special effects, all to make magic unmagical, to make action seem inert.

Perhaps the die was cast when Rowling vetoed the idea of Spielberg directing the series; she made sure the series would never be mistaken for a work of art that meant anything to anybody?just ridiculously profitable cross-promotion for her books. The Harry Potter series might be anti-Christian (or not), but it’s certainly the anti-James Bond series in its refusal of wonder, beauty and excitement. No one wants to face that fact. Now, thankfully, they no longer have to.

>a-at least the books were good though
"No!"
The writing is dreadful; the book was terrible. As I read, I noticed that every time a character went for a walk, the author wrote instead that the character "stretched his legs."

I began marking on the back of an envelope every time that phrase was repeated. I stopped only after I had marked the envelope several dozen times. I was incredulous. Rowling's mind is so governed by cliches and dead metaphors that she has no other style of writing. Later I read a lavish, loving review of Harry Potter by the same Stephen King. He wrote something to the effect of, "If these kids are reading Harry Potter at 11 or 12, then when they get older they will go on to read Stephen King." And he was quite right. He was not being ironic. When you read "Harry Potter" you are, in fact, trained to read Stephen King.

>> No.56330313

>>56329429
>Or we're oldfags.
This. Also, I've never been a big fan of either portal fantasy, or fantasy that's somehow secretly occurring in our world. The conflicting paradigms at play ruin my sense of immersion.

>Prydain
I've not read them since I was a kid, so I don't know how well they hold up, but I quite enjoyed them back then. A Wizard of Earthsea was another one I enjoyed, and it definitely holds up.

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>>56327097
Nice

>> No.56330442
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For some reason only a few have read this one, and I think most of /tg/ would love it

>>56324063
Give this man a medal

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56330456

My guilty pleasure.

>> No.56330492

>>56329360
I was probably about the right age when they came out, but I wasn't really all that into them. The first three were okay children's books, but the next two felt more like mediocre young adult books, and I stopped reading after that.

>> No.56330693

>>56330442
The first three books were pretty good, but I really like the second trilogy, even if it did get a bit ridiculous at times.

>> No.56330788

>>56330693
Brin does a good job with his aliens.

I will agree the last ones get crazy, but in a fun way.

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>>56325714
But Bluebear's too on the nose. And horribly paced.
City of Dreaming Books is where it's all at, with that brilliant setting.

>> No.56330890

>>56300068
Hell yeah

When everyone else was reading Harry Potter my mom got me this from the library and I was like

damn, these wizards are fucking hardcore

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>>56330456
My other guilty pleasure, and this one is getting a movie!

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>>56330971
My man

>> No.56331067

>>56331014
I hope Peter Jackson doesnt fuck it up like the Hobbit.

Then again, there isnt going to be a need to stretch out one book into a trilogy, so its probably ok

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>>56331067
The Hobbit was a huge mess, but my hopes are reasonable for this

Also, Mortal Engines and Artemis Fowl getting films fills me with both anticipation and dread

>> No.56331726

>>56300135
Having read the entire series during the last 2-3 years, it's kind of wavers between good, decent, to horrendously paced and boring(seriously, you could probably cut out at least 2 books worth of content and plot lines and change nothing). Overall pretty good though, and on a very epic world ending scale towards the end. As a final note: it's weird how often polygamy is a plot point.

>> No.56331785

>>56330301
Is this /lit/ pasta?

>> No.56331802

>>56324065
Oh shit, Septimus Heap. I read THE SHIT out of the series back in middle school.

>> No.56331864
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56331864

Probably the earliest I can remember is reading the Percy Jackson series. A lot. I re-read books a lot when I was younger.

>> No.56331962

>>56329558
Not like /tg/'s most favorite game has the best naming either.
>Dude who flies around, dresses in black, and is literally named Crow Crow
>Dude named Iron Hands, who has iron hands, who leads the Iron Hands, all of whom have iron hands

>> No.56331987

>>56331785
Very much so, and stale too

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>>56331785
It's pasta yeah

>> No.56332165

>>56331864
Man, they're clearly for kids but damn if those books aren't fun.
And the mythology is pretty decent overall too, the author knows his shit.

>> No.56332203

>>56298972

I liked The Silver Chair. Puddleglum's speech was enjoyable and the Giant's Feast was horrifying when I was a child.

>> No.56332208

>>56332165
Everything I know about that series is from seeing like 10 minutes of it channel surfing back when television was still relevant, but wasn't a character in it Athena's daughter? That doesn't really screaming knowing his shit to me

>> No.56332463

>>56332208
Yes, as part of the premise that all the main characters are demigod children of Greek gods.

And the issue is brought up, actually in kind of "wait, your mom is Athena? Wasn't she?..." tailing off way, and like most kids she's not exactly eager to talk about her conception.
All Athena's kids come about when she makes a strong intellectual connection with a mortal - there might be a bit of romance in there, but nothing physical, unlike most gods and goddesses. They're literally brainchildren, as odd as that sounds (but recall that Athena herself sprang from Zeus's head).

That's probably the biggest "this exists for the sake of X character" thing though, as Hera doesn't have kids, and Artemis has her Hunters who recruit.

>> No.56334302

>>56326381
Don't remember soldier beetles. The main character is the seventh son of a seventh son and so he has some sort of special affinity for magic. I remember a really comfy arc in the first book where they had to live with this old lady in the marsh who made a lot of delicious toast for them to eat

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...need more be said...

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>>56329255
Man those books where what made me decide fantasy is where its at

>> No.56336395

>>56324175
If I got an email from your standard /lit/ poster I would reply just as condescendingly.

I know you would too. Just chill on /lit/ for a while and I guarantee you'll agree with me.

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>>56317886
I would not re-read but my memories are glorious.

The tale of those two brothers I found to be great as a kid.

Similar note.

Anyone read this?

>> No.56336652

>>56314839
Could you tip that fedora any lower?

>> No.56336724

>>56329360
>Twilight but with wizards

>> No.56337006

>>56307767
Redwall, along with Narnia and The Hobbit, started an interest in fantasy for me and are nice and simple.

Gormenghast (Book Two), along with Don Quixote, are those books that I've tried to start a dozen times and never been able to complete, despite how immersive and beautiful they are.

One day when I have more time and less things...

>> No.56337167

Shannara Trilogy, Memory Sorrow and Thorn, Chronicles of Narnia, Dragonlance, Icewind Dale trilogy (especially Streams of Silver).

>> No.56337415

>>56301293
The first Artemis fowl and the Supernaturalists... Shit man are you me ?

>> No.56337496

>>56324065
Never thought this was good, so all that happened was that I felt it was a guilty pleasure for me to like it so much.
Damn I loved this series and never admitted it.

>> No.56337558

Probably no one in here will have read this, but Ewilan and Ellana were the books that defined what fantasy was for me, and that it would be my favourite genre.
It's also what convinced me that I wanted to be a novelist, something that most of /tg/ probably wants too

>> No.56337637

>>56326692

Eisenhorn and Gaunt's Ghost are both pretty good 40k novels
The first follows an Inquisitor messing up heretics and eventually himself, the second a Comissar as he leads a regiment of Guardsmen that are the only survivors of a planet destroyed by chaos. The latter manages to strike a decent balance between grimdarkness and having at least some glimmer of hope at the end of the day.

>>56330882

I agree that City of Dreaming Books is a better novel, but the Thirteen and a Half Lives holds a special place in my heart, it's just so wonderfully weird and creative.

>> No.56337717

Help me remember the title of this book I read 20 odd years ago when I was 10ish:

- Character possibly gets transported to another world, questions if he has been transported to pre-history.

- Something about a "fire stone" or similar. Possibly elemental magic powers manifested. Stone feels hot to character, magic powers develop as the character's ability to feel more heat through the stone?

- Meets a shamanistic female healer character that uses herbs. Likely bitter-tasting. Lumps under armpits. Similar symptoms to bubonic plague.

- Bedding made from fir-trees in a cave?

>> No.56337825

>>56329255

I read this (with that exact cover) for a book report in the 5th or 6th grade; I liked it, but probably would have liked it more if I knew who anyone was or what was going on.

>> No.56337841
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I started reading powder mage series a few days ago and it's pretty fun

Pretty much mistborne crossed with napoleonic wars

Derivative and about half of the big plot twists are pretty fucking obvious but the characters are mostly decent and as i said still really fun

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seems interesting...anyone know about this ?

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56338127

Dune is my favorite Science Fiction (ish) book, and this is my favorite Fantasy novel. It might be my favorite novel.

>> No.56338293

>>56337841
Powder mage is pretty fun.

I finished Sins of Empire (first book in the sequel trilogy) the other day.

It seems to improve on the first lot in a big way, though the big twist is painfully predictable again.

>> No.56338536

>>56336724
Bit harsh there, m8.
All memes aside, Twilight is among the worst mainstream book series ever written.

>> No.56338597

>>56326692
I quite like Fire Caste by Peter Fehervari. I recommend it if you have a bit of familiarity with 40k and like Apocalypse Now

>> No.56338759

>>56331726
Waifus are serious business.

Legit spoilersWith the dragon reborn, waifus are the most serious of business to the point he has a cute tomboy waifu, a princess waifu and a fit tanned red head waifu. Also he has an all female army filled with older sister/mother types that view him as their little Brother/son

>> No.56338817

>>56315385
Have you read the three musketeers? Also by Alexander Dumas? Its awesome and quite comfy(but with lots of action)

>> No.56338887

>>56326935
This isn't real? This is a numales fantasy? I've never... No? What? Seriously? I'm not even joking is this? Is this the most Gary stu you can get?

>> No.56338912

>>56329360
Read them last year when I had just turned 21. They were comfy and fan pleasing. I liked them but will never call them a work of art. They are for children and I enjoy childish things such as cartoons.

>> No.56339098

>>56338887
Bear in mind that this was written back before the current year social epidemic had really got going.
The guy was ahead of the curve in being a complete fucking loser

>> No.56339156

>>56338293
I didn't even know there was more coming out. Nice

Btw are the novellas and short storwellof that universe worth a read as well?

>> No.56339233

>>56298472
>is the Chronicles of Narnia worth reading

Absolutely

>>56298972
>Silver Chair
>shit tier

Don't make puddleglum come over there motherfucker

>> No.56339247

>>56326935
This reads with a date-rapist's self-awareness.

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>>56339098
But still it's like he is a the perfect Numale. He is to SJW what Jesus is to Christianity. Not that he is divine but the Literal perfect representation of their ideology and way of thought.

I don't know whether to laugh, cry or something. I don't know what to do.. Im literally shocked that somebody could shamelessly write something like this and not burn it afterwards or file it away where it will never be found out of embarrassment.

>> No.56339292

>>56300039
>dimmendark
>dim and dark

This is some Eragon-tier shit here.

>> No.56339545

>>56339292
Sounds like a character that belongs in a fantasy version of dumb and dumber

>> No.56339875
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For the longest time, it was LOTR and the Hobbit. Pretty generic taste but it really was my first proper exposure to the genre.

But a few years back i got around to reading Moorcock.
Then i got to Stormbringer.


Holy fuck.

If you haven't gone on Elric's wild ass ride, you need to change that post haste.

>> No.56340041

>>56323998
The first novel blew my fucking mind as a 10 year old

>> No.56340075
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>>56331864
I loved the shit out of this series. The interactions between Percy and Annabeth were just the best.

>>56332208
They actually address that in the book. All of athena's children come from her head, the same way she came from Zeus' head. Most of her children are quite embarrassed by this fact.

>> No.56340110

One of Greg Bears only forays into fantasy: Songs of Earth and Power.

It's wild. Magic is so not what one would expect.

>> No.56340125
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Patricia McKillip, The Riddlemaster of Hed.

Sadly unremembered gem.

>> No.56340132

>>56338127
The Arthur as animal bits were tedious

>> No.56340239
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Did anyone else read Pendragon, and was I right to drop the series in book 9?

>> No.56340283

>>56299063
>>56320313
don't know about you, but I found Gardens really enjoyable and setting the tone pretty much perfectly. I really struggled with Deadhouse though, it's literally nothing but walking in the desert for 1000 pgs

The rest of the series is really good though, except maybe Toll the hounds, didn't care much for it except for the ending, which is pretty good

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>>56298472
Unbelievable that only >>56304512 mentioned the Lankhmar stories, the absolute fucking root of the D&D style that came to define fantasy tabletop. These books are the most /tg/ literature that exists or could ever possibly exist because they're the wellspring of the entire hobby.

They're also the greatest fantasy stories of all fucking time, so.

>>56298972
>Horse and His Boy
>not God Tier
disgustforplebs.jpg

>> No.56340355

>>56340239
Never got around to continuing after book 3. When I was younger I thought it was fun, but looking back on it, it kinda sucked.

>> No.56340373

>>56299063
>How is Malazan? I tried reading the first chapter of Gardens of the moon but blech, does it really worth it?
It's absolute shit. The prose is terrible, the plot's retarded, major characters are obviously recognizable types of awful DMPC and no less irritating in a novel, it's based on an RPG campaign, and as if that wasn't enough of a red flag, the system was GURPS. Avoid.

>> No.56341085

>>56300216
You'll find most people who venerate Tolkien do so for things other than writing. He wasn't aiming to write a good conventional novel and it shows.

>> No.56341234

>>56326506
Is it true the mage which i forgot the name which attempts godhood actually was ntr'd?
I heard his bro fucked the girl he was interested.

>> No.56341281

>>56307314
>half the time the person relations are so awkwardly cringey shit that it's impossible to go through them. It's like the guy never had a normal relationship or something
There's some sort fo weird shit going on with his entire generation and women desu, where they were inculcated with some sort of bizarre sense of inferiority on like... a civilizational level. Tons of books from people of his age have this kind of "be deferential to absolute bitches and grateful the entitled shits want you around" thing going on, I don't know why.

>> No.56341377

>>56307674
It...it's beautiful.

>> No.56341566

>>56340373
This. The plot is utter shit. It feels like American morality and culture was transplanted into another world. The way the characters talk, interact with each other and their motivations all make it apparent just how fucking insipid and uninspired the characterization is.
The world building is lovely though.

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>>56298472
Lord of the Rings first defined the idea for me. Specifically, one of my teachers in my primary school read The Hobbit to the class over the course of a few months, a chapter at a time, and that was all it took to turn me into a grognard for the rest of my life.

Lately, my idea of fantasy has warped more in line to the works of Steven Erikson. I loved the Malazan saga, and I'm reading the first Kharkanas book right now.

>> No.56341824

>>56307674
which site?

>> No.56341840

There is any books which are inspired by animu in that they have cute waifus who want the mc dick?

>> No.56341988

>>56341840
I'd suspect that describes most of them nowadays.

>> No.56342241

>>56341840
Read the wheel of time. Especially if you are a waifu fag.

>> No.56342414

>>56342241
No ntr right?
Netori is okay for me but netorare is a big nono

>> No.56342761

>>56342414
NTR? Not at all. Harem.

It's nice to see how loyal people are to their spouses and loves in the books.

Just warning you, there is however, a bit of HandholdingDress Patting But not limited to and worst of allBraid Tugging

Besides that. Lots of tsundere waifus and milf type characters.

And the main characters are pretty dope. Both the male and female are completely likable or in the least tolerable.

>> No.56342784

>>56336195
Taran Wanderer was great. Taran was the first character I remember going from someone I couldn't stand to being a genuine hero, a real human bean.

>> No.56342891

>>56342761
THATS GREAT
I WAS GOING TO READ DRAGONLANCE FIRST BUT SINCE I KNOW DRAGONLANCE IS MORE WESTERN I WILL GO FOR WHEEL
I LOVE WAIFUS

>> No.56343245

>>56338759
>>56342891
If you want minor(not that bad) spoilers about some types of waifus.

>> No.56343487

>>56338759
>>56343245
wow
that's nice, fucking nice.
reading now

>> No.56343506

>>56343487
Enjoy, anon. All those things aside it's still a good story with wonderful characters

>> No.56344108

>>56341824
err www.snip.li then the /RPGNovels (case sensitive) for the redirect -not sure I could have made that much clearer.

recently updated with various comics, gary gygax books, history of rpgs with a section on the satanic panic (mazes and monsters included) witcher books, and more.... if anyone has suggestions for inclusions and/or fills i'd be grateful

especially looking for the "Darksword Adventures" book at the moment - as its eluding me.

>> No.56344207

>>56344108
>www.snip.li
is it for TOR?

>> No.56344357

What is the /tg/ related book with the most fucked up plot twists?

>> No.56344718

>>56344357
The one when anon asked a question right before the thread archived.

>> No.56344750
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56344750

>>56344207
try typing it in your web browser bar and you will be magically transported to a new zealand based mega land. no onions required.

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