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Is berserk Sword & Sorcery?

>> No.55812655

>>55812634
>Sword
check
>Sorcery
check

Seems likely, OP.

>> No.55812664

>>55812634
berserk seems like it could have been a low magic ad&d 2e campaign
since there's barely any magic I would say no

>> No.55813036

>>55812634
yes

>> No.55813205

>>55812634

Heroic Fantasy.

>> No.55813307

>>55812634
Berserk is Swords & Boats

>> No.55813382

>>55812634
>barely any magic
Confirmed to have only watched the anime
Schierke is a cleric/elementalist and is the only party member who can somewhat match gut's destructiveness.

>> No.55813391

>>55812634
It is now.

>> No.55813446

>>55813382
More of a druid than anything.

>> No.55813478
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>>55812664
Ever read the manga bud???

>> No.55813482

>>55813382
>>55813446
>a witch
>100% a witch
>Witch's hat, witch's dress
>Called a witch in the setting

Geez, I wonder what she is.

>> No.55813494

Will Rickert invent matchlocks?

>> No.55813512

>>55813482
Berserk Witch magic is still some of the coolest shit ever.

>Summon spirits to wreck shit
>including spirits of human industry that take the form of giant burning wheels

>> No.55813524

>>55813482
>implying witches aren't druids

>> No.55813552

>>55812634
It's dark fantasy. Sword & sorcery generally strives to portray the setting almost, if not literally, as something from antiquity but with latent supernatural elements that loom in each narrative arc.
Berserk is about a horrifying and trying world and how it twists those who live there, which are classic dark fantasy themes.

>> No.55813574

>>55813494
>Implying he won't just use designated magic street sorcery to become the world's first true artificer

>> No.55813623

>>55813494

>Apostles begin to fall on mass in the face of matchlocks formations.

>> No.55813659

>>55813623

What if the next generation of apostles begin to spawn with in-built matchlocks themselves?

>> No.55815047

>>55813512
Wait when did this happen?

>> No.55815191
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>>55812634
Beneath the aesthetic, I actually think Gatts is a greek hero in the old fashioned tragedy play. He's trying to defy his Fate, suffering through and likely to fail as a lesson for others.

But he has a small chance and powerful entities backing him, so the plot retains enough hope to engage the public.

If you think the themes, rape and violence are too heavy for that, go read greek mythology.

https://pastebin.com/DtKQ6iQt
>Greek Fantasy Tips and Resources

https://pastebin.com/2jRuVQt1
>Fantasy smut should read the ancient classics

>> No.55815305

>>55815191
It's actually implied that griffith is the real Messiah and is only doing what he is doing now to toss the world into even greater despair
Which would make Guts the literal Anti-christ

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55815591

>>55813623
Apostles are pretty fucking tough man

>> No.55815691

>>55813494
He invented a fucking rocket launcher which clearly had a flintlock mechanism. He's skipping straight over to flintlocks.

>> No.55815730

>>55812664
>low magic
Not to go into spoiler territory but hooooo no it's high.

>> No.55815782

>>55815591
Berserk has lost all it's gritty horror, now it's an edgy gorefest.

>> No.55815995

>>55812634
Unlike works of high fantasy, the tales, though dramatic, focus mainly on personal battles rather than world-endangering matters.

>> No.55816219

>>55813307
Berserk is Swords & Clang
>>55815782
It was always pretty edgy 2bh

>> No.55816445

>>55815782
How the fuck is any of the current stuff more pointlessly edgy and gory than anything in the Black Swordsman or Golden Age arcs?

>> No.55816448

>>55815782
>edgy gorefest
It's actually at the most optimistic its been in years

>> No.55816497

>>55812634
I wouldn't call it that. To me, "sword and sorcery" brings to mind "sword and sandal" and implies a setting closer to antiquity.

>> No.55816557

>>55815305
It's the exact opposite, dude.

>> No.55817740

>>55815730
It starts fairly low though, it's not until a pivotal moment that shit goes whack and magic becomes a massive deal.

>> No.55819770

bump

>> No.55819812

>>55812664
Sword and Sorcery refers to things like Conan. Magic doesn't have to be omnipresent, just part of the setting. Some people even consider science-fantasy like Gor to be Sword and Sorcery.

>> No.55820082

>>55816448
You know, I’d heard that Berserk had lost all its unique attributes and become a generic fantasy series, and when I finally got to reading the more recent volumes I discovered that this description was completely, utterly wrong. Berserk handled the introduction of more fantastic elements, and the shift to a moderately more realistic tone, incredibly well; I don’t think it’s lost anything at all, and overall it holds together as a single story better than any manga of comparable length that I’ve read.

I doubt it qualifies as “sword and sorcery,” though. My understanding is that stories of that ilk featured more heroic protagonists, in terms of their ability to affect the world around them, whereas Guts’ influence is minuscule relative to that of Griffith and the God Hand, despite all his strength and skill.

>> No.55821446

>>55815782
>now it's an edgy gorefest
>NOW
reread the black swordsman arc anon
it's at it's least edgy now since golden age

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