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Guard strong edition.

Previous >>55800885

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>> No.55802870
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First for Renegades need a buff.

>> No.55802878

Who is GSC Breeder?

>> No.55802887
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First for strong Krieg best regiment.

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Does anyone know if a scan of Jes Goodwin's Eldar Sketchbook exists?

>> No.55802893
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I miss old art.

>> No.55802894

>>55802878
the anti-female guardsmen /tg/ obviously, they want them to stay home to have GSC babies and spread the cult.

>> No.55802913

>>55802891
> that titan crew
Holy hair metal batman!

>> No.55802915

>>55802894
>the anti-female guardsmen crowd are just GSCultists trying to undermine the hive
It all makes sense.

>> No.55802922

>>55802870
>Renegades can take ig doctrines and stratagems.

That would probably make them work.

>> No.55802923
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>>55802856
I want to join the Guard and fight for our exalted Emperor. Do I have potential?

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>>55802894
6 posts and theyre back at it again

>> No.55802930

>>55802878
Why does he wear the tentacles?

>> No.55802936

>>55802923
he looks like an auswitch prisoner that stole all the other jews food to get ripped.

>> No.55802939

>>55802913
>no manufacturer makes hair metal heads for Eldar

Suffering.

>> No.55802943

>>55802923
Shave that pubic hair and you'll be fine.

>> No.55802948

>>55802924
This is why monogender is best, you just fight over the biggest hatz, shootaz, and choppas.

>> No.55802956

>>55802865
>I have to buy an entire new model
Damn it
>>55802872
Yes i am but i dont have any Sanguinary Guard or any room to include them into my list.
>>55802885
We can but i dont think I have enough Rhinos to turn into Razorbacks

>> No.55802963

>>55802948
> no dick
Why live?

>> No.55802966

>>55802922
With us having the covenants of chaos it might be hard to convince anyone to allow that.

>> No.55802975

Why are IG units so cheap.
>Twice the shots of a squad of Space Marines
>Half the points
The fuck...

>> No.55802977

>>55802956
> no room for Sanguinary Guard
That's a funny way to say 'I have a vagina'. Make room anon stop being a faggot.

>> No.55802978
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Reminder that Conscripts are point for point more resilient than marines.

>> No.55802984
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>>55802963
>implying they don't have huge throbbing ork cocks with witch to krump their enemies with

>> No.55802986

>>55802963
For the thrill of all other things in life.

>> No.55802996

>>55802975
>half

Not even. Infantry are a third of the cost, conscripts are a quarter.

>> No.55802997

>>55802977
B-But where? A baal predator doesnt come cheap. Neither does 2 drop pods

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>>55802948
>mfw orks are actually the most intelligent race in the galaxy because they have evolved beyond petty desires concerning plastic toys

>> No.55803001

>>55802963
>dick slave

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>>55802856
>>55802894
>>55802915

Who is the most progressive faction in 40k? Tau?

>> No.55803017

>>55802975
GW underestimated the strength of just being a fearless warm body in the absence of blast markers. Hopefully most fearless hordes will see points adjustments down the line.

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>>55802963
why have a dick when you can have spore sacks?

>> No.55803020

>>55802997
> has Baal predator
> still worried about anti infantry, he takes flamers and sheit
Faggot there is your problem. Also drop pods SUCK

>> No.55803028

>>55802978
I love this picture

>> No.55803029

How viable are neophytes in chimeras armed with shotguns and flamers?

I just want to be midly competitive and have fun

>> No.55803033

>>55803001
> the virgin gamer

>> No.55803034

>>55803014
Nids, Crons, or Orks all three have evolved passed the point of giving a shit about social politics.

>> No.55803035

>>55803014
Necrons open and closed case, they are gender fluid, transgender, agender, anything and everything and you can't say otherwise because to say they all look alike is racist. /sarcasm I need a shower now.

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>>55803014
Stop

>> No.55803037

>>55802966
You don't get guard tier infantry though.

>> No.55803038

>>55802851
Not anymore

>> No.55803040

>>55803014
Clearly it's the Sisters of Battle.

>> No.55803042

>>55803018
How big a spore sack we talking here anon

>> No.55803046

>>55803033
>the chad enthusiast

>> No.55803052

>>55803020
Anon i math hammered it out i only kill 8 conscripts a turn with my tactical squads. Now i just use the drop pods to transport my Assault melta squads

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>>55802956

>i dont think I have enough Rhinos to turn into Razorbacks

You should have at least 5 of each.

>i dont have any Sanguinary Guard

You disgust me more than the Angels Vermillion. What kind of Son of Sanguinius are you?

>> No.55803058

>>55803014
Worked for Marvel...

>> No.55803064

>>55803046
Brb, about to feed that chick you like but are too beta to talk too my cock.

>> No.55803068

>>55803014
imagine being so much of a weenie you got mad at this. like imagine the existence of women making someone mad. what a world

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>>55803036

>> No.55803076

Plastic Fulgrim when?

>> No.55803080

>>55802975
GW "balanced" costs for 7th. When templates, and stupidly efficient ways to save models.
In other words GW can't into balance and never had. Maybe 3rd...

Also the top tier army right now is SoB. Let that sink for a while

>> No.55803086

>>55803056
>What kind of Son of Sanguinius are you?
One who just started his first army and only has the basics? i have 15 death company models is that not enough?

>> No.55803087

Chaos daemons codex when?

>> No.55803088

>>55803052
> using math to factor out most optimial blah blah blah
> not charging in to slaughter your foes for the glory of Sanguinius
NO TRUE BLOOD ANGEL

>> No.55803091

>>55803029
Ehh. You be better off just hoping to get lucky with ambush. Paying the points for a typical transport like a Chimera isn't generally worthwhile unless the contents are really scary, and I don't think your GSC neophytes qualify.

That said, you can probably make it okay by going with a 2x Heavy Flamer Chimera and trying to do bootleg Sister strats.

>> No.55803092

>>55803037
That is true, but what about my units that are not tanks or infantry? I'm not sure my chaos s***n would have a good fluff reason to have them. Although out of curiosity what would be the best regiment rule for renegades?

>> No.55803094

>>55802948
Youse forgets about teef.

>> No.55803097

>>55803064
Stay outta my barn, hummie

>> No.55803099

>>55803014
Adeptus Mechanicus

Who cares about gender when anybody can have a robocock.

>> No.55803100

Anyone else miss little bits of wargear or upgrades? It feels lacking in 8th. Stuff like Melta Bombs or Master Crafting/Digital Weapons on Grey Knights, or Vehicle Equipment.

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shamelessly reposting my guard, named by you guys

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>>55803094
>being a flashgit

>> No.55803118

>>55803036
>he wants shitty snuff bait

yeah i bet you jack off at the thought of those half-naked women getting blown into mangled scraps of guts but bolt shells and chainswords right, you sick fuck?

>> No.55803129

>>55803068
women being shoehorned into army fiction en masse is annoying because that retarded meme is starting to bleed into reality

>> No.55803131

Hey lads, about this whole female minis thing - anyone check out the normieboom page '40kfeminist'? A real fuckin trip. Now I think Arch Warhammer is a faggot but they straight up compare him to Elliot Rodgers because he supports Sargon of Fagkad.

>> No.55803139

>>55803068
I'm imagining the people who were such weenies they got mad at little plastic men and demanded they change it so they'll feel better about it.

Should we demand Hasbro to put space marines into MLP? I don't feel like it's catering to me enough, and it's only diversity I'm asking. Why would you say no to inclusiveness? You can make them black too.

>> No.55803140

>>55803100
Yes. If it's not on the fucking model (now ONLY in monopose), it doesn't get the option. It's fucking bullshit. There is no way Chaptsehouse cost them THIS much money to warrant this

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>>55802978

>> No.55803143
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>>55803094
>Youse forgets about teef.

Every night, I order my children to "skrub dere steel teef" before they go to bed.

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>>55803118

>> No.55803151

>>55803100
Well 8th has an erection for <Corporate Approved> rules going out of their way to prevent the proper implementation of <Your Dudes>

Still waiting for make your own Vehicle/Monster or Demon/Primarch/Saint/Commander/Hero rules.

Hell most armies still have decades old model, it is insulting to the consumer at this point to still sell old products at full price

>> No.55803153

>>55803058
>>55803058
and bioware...

>> No.55803155

>>55803108
Weirdboy says to gets him teef or he make my head explode, I gets teef.

>> No.55803162

>>55803129
Boo hoo

>> No.55803168

>>55803017
Just wait when they bring back blast markers in the 9th edition.

>> No.55803178

>>55803020
See you are going to hate me when you find out that i give it 2 heavy bolters because i cant fit the Heavy flamers into the list. tho it does have the flamestorm cannon

>> No.55803180

>>55803131
I almost want to talk about this but it's not worth ruining the next 5 threads over.

>> No.55803190

How many points is a cult icon for GSC? Cant seem to find it in index

>> No.55803195

>>55803100
Melta bombs exist on appropriate units. IG and Orks have vehicle equipment. They just don't have generic wargear lists open to everyone under the sun.

>> No.55803202

>>55803100
Read the 3.5 Chaos codex and weep.

>> No.55803205

>>55803151
I want a fucking template that lets you make your own characters by assigning point costs to stats and wargear equivalents...That shit would be great instead of basing a custom character off a generic or named HQ and changing it to slightly better fit your dude's fluff/combat prowess.
Or even a create <your dudes> section in the codexes...

>> No.55803218

>>55803100
There's a lot of things 8th edition lacks.

Interesting wargear and wargear customization is just the tip of the interesting rules and customization iceberg.

>> No.55803225

>>55803202
>Read any 3.x Codex and weep

>> No.55803228
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55803228

Is there a good place to start a Thousand Sons army without picking up Magnus right off the bat? I currently have the 30k Ahriman model that I'm enjoying painting.

>> No.55803230

>>55803205
Was it 4th or 5th that had "make your chapter" "make your regiment rules" with a pros and cons?
That worked so bad.
GW after 3rd has been on a decline ever since

>> No.55803238
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Is this a good army list for 2500points?

I think it's pretty nice. Not very spammy, but not self-sabotaging either.

Idea is that the platoon commanders and their accompanying command squads will be standing with all of the infantry squads in a massive firing line, with the autocannon and heavy bolter teams dispersed amongst them, with that Ministorum priest residing right smuck in the middle to trie and get his war hymns buff to affect as many as possible.

The Company Commander, Psyker, Commisar, and Command Squad will sit behind the lines in a Chimera, to protect them. The Psyker is there to do deny the witch tests and whatever, and the Commissar is there to prevent the psyker from going full retard(also because I needed three HQs).

The Armored Sentinels will be seek and destroy units, hunting down light vehicles and infantry, or supporting the infantry. The Hellhound is sitting amongst the gunline in case something needs to be immolated.

The Spearhead will be your basic vehicle hunting party, along with fulfilling the role of general battle tank. The blast the enemy, the infantry move up. Rinse and repeat. Combined Arms, mafacka. And the Basilisk will be sitting behind the gunline just to fuck over any infantry that's holed up anywhere.

Is it gud?

>> No.55803243

>>55803153
And Ghostbusters!

>> No.55803254

>>55803228
You're in for an uphill battle. TSons units are expensive points wise.

>> No.55803256

>>55803238
Looks okay.

>> No.55803277

>>55803195
Yeah, I remember when Abaddon ordered the Chaos Space Marines to destroy all their Melta-bombs after Cadia. Oh wait.

>> No.55803283

I honestly don't know why I'm hoping for anything for necrons in the codex.

It's just going to be full of derivative crap like

2cp-reroll rp rolls for a necron unit this phase.
A war scythe relic with one more ap and damage than baseline.

>> No.55803294

>>55803243
And politics!
And education!
And work!

Can we please stop I just want to paint my Sisters of Battle that need no men but the Immortal God Emperor.

>> No.55803307

>>55803294
Celibacy isn't a requirement to be a sister of battle.

>> No.55803312

>>55803254
I'm alright with that. I'm probably the least competitive player in our group. Is there anyway to make them viable or should I just stick to painting them for the fun of it?

>> No.55803313

>>55803100
Where is Nids Bio-morphs?

>> No.55803325

>>55803307
They're not celibate. It's just compared to the big E, even Space Marines are manlets to a SoB.

>> No.55803330

>>55803294
>>55803307
>implying Sisters aren't sexually active
>Implying they dont find any men/boys that they can and fuck them as long as possible, so much so they're sore in the morning

>> No.55803337

>>55803205
Not really. Most of them were only marginally more open for characters than the current weapon lists. Chaos was exceptional in that you also had access to all the gifts of chaos.

>> No.55803340

>>55803330
>Daughters of the Emperor
>Sluts

>> No.55803345

>>55803330
>fuck them as long as possible, so much so they're sore in the morning
Who is getting fucked and who is sore in the morning?

>> No.55803346

>>55803230
4th for Guard. 5th for Marines.

>> No.55803348

>>55803312
I don't know offhand. I play Necrons and 'Nids, so all the advice I have centers around how to lose with verve and wit.

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>>55803330
>>55803307
I was making fun of my count as SoB

>> No.55803355

>>55803100
Guard gets (some) vehicle equipment!

>> No.55803364

>>55803086
No. You need at least 20 with jump packs, 20 on foot kitted for cc and 10 with bolters.

>> No.55803368

>>55803345
Depends on the men/boyz.

>> No.55803374

>>55803340
Emps as demonstrated by the Horus heresy is a terrible dad. His daughters are probably huge sluts.

>> No.55803375

>>55803283
The guard codex is full of cool options and different ways to play. Even the much maligned AdMech codex would be okay variety wise if its power level had been a bit higher.

>> No.55803376

>>55803352
What are those bodies for your sisters? Primaris marines? Third party?

>> No.55803378

>>55803346
4e had Marines with make your own Chapter Tactics.
5e had Special Characters augmenting your Combat Tactics.

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>>55803307
Just chaste, denying themselves everything but bare necessities, isolation from the outside world, etc.

I mean, just because Space Marines have 15 minutes a day to themselves and live like monks, doesn't mean they're not fucking around all the time.

>> No.55803387

Painting nurgle daemons, any music suggestions to fit the mood?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lr6lVhjwrb8

>> No.55803388

>>55803352
How do those dreamforge models work out for you?

>> No.55803390

>>55803228
Unfortunately, Rubric Marines are very expensive and kinda mediocre. They also overlap pretty heavily with Scarab Occult in terms of offensive capability.

Make sure to load up on Cultists and/or Horrors to screen for you.

>> No.55803396

>>55803375
Guard are the designated good faction this edition. Necrons are the designated shit faction. Gw will not make necrons fun.

>> No.55803402

>>55803283
Necrons are really whiny this edition

>> No.55803403

>>55803348
Fair enough. I suppose I'll pick up some Terminators and see what catches my eye after that. In the mean time I'll try and come up with some witty Egyptian themed puns with which to throw my opponent off balance.

>> No.55803405

>>55803396
Ah, so just whining then.

>> No.55803415

Playing Dark Angels is suffering, we miss out on so much shit that it actually fucks with our list building. Any other factions have the same issue?

>> No.55803416

>>55803277
Actually yeah why did Chaos Marines lose their melta-bombs, they were useful little champion grenades for emergency anti-tank situations.

>> No.55803420

>>55803396
Aren't you in the same boat as Orks and T'au though? Why are you you more pessimistic than them

>> No.55803422

>>55803129
>>55803139
i'm sorry the existence of women and black people upset you so much you go on a frothing rage and compare your army mans game to entitled nerds sperging out (aka what you're doing). companies are diversifying because diverse people play their games and have always played their games (and are now getting into development, design and management themselves) and they want to sell games and for people to have fun. i'm real sorry people are having fun. fun must be so awful for you. please seek sunlight, and if you do, please don't grind your teeth and mutter 'identity politics' when you see another human. it ain't right

>> No.55803424

>>55803144
Did that Sister seriously glue a purity seal to her tongue with hot wax?

Ow!

>> No.55803435

>>55803420
GW have been removing cron options at an alarming rate.

>> No.55803438

>>55803424
The repentia do a lot of metal shit like that

>> No.55803441

>>55803340
>>55803374
It's even worse than that because they're in universe nickname is "Brides of the Emperor" not Daughters.
They're Space Nuns in power armour.

>> No.55803444

>>55803415
I play Talons of the Emperor. They took away my ability to have a Custode as a Warlord. They took away teleporting. They took away hope.

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>>55803424

>> No.55803456

>>55803435
Everyone lost options

>>55803444
Keep buying resin and maybe it'll get 40k rules someday

>> No.55803460

>>55803441
>they're in universe nickname is "Brides of the Emperor"

Only under Vandire.

>> No.55803462

>>55803435
Right.

The index is so bare bones compared to everything else, that the standard 4 pages of extra rules per codex isn't going to help much. That will just bring necrons up to the index level of every other faction.

>> No.55803473

>>55803444
You may have lost teleporting but you can still choose a custodian as a warlord, cant you? I thought the rule said model not character

>> No.55803475

>>55803441
Wrong, they were orginally in universe named Daughters of the Emperor, but, renamed by San Leor and renamed Brides of the Emperor while taking them as his personal army. When they spoke to the emperor and turned against Leor they renamed themselves back to the Daughters of the Emperor.

>> No.55803480

>>55803014

You realize that the Taus entire society is a top down caste system which enforces pre established roles that no one can break out of, right?

Also, why are you guys not talking about the other facet of this move by GW, which is the destruction of Slaanesh. Already got eliminated in fantasy, and with the creation of Ynnead it's pretty obvious the clocks ticking on the 40K version, too. Slaanesh is obviously too problematic for the vision GW has for their products going forward.

>> No.55803488

>>55803456
Our wargear page is three entries, two of which were a powersword until the FAQ which made one of them a +1 atk powersword.

>> No.55803489

>>55803480
If gw squats slaanesh, I'm done.

>> No.55803494

>>55803422
plz go.

>> No.55803496
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>>55803460
>>55803475
I was not aware they changed after Vandire, my mistake.
Guess even the Imperium has it's share of Daddy issues.

>> No.55803499

Just bought the Death Guard half of the DI box, whats the best way to spend 20 points to match my friends Dark Eldar kit? I am totally fucked, arent I?

>> No.55803505

>>55803480
>Already got eliminated in fantasy
S/He'll be back in the summer alongside an Aelf release though

>> No.55803506

>>55803441
The original order was the "Daughters of the Emperor." Vandire changed that to "Brides of the Emperor" but also proceeded to use them as fucktoys among other things. After the Reign of Blood ended they went back to being the Daughters of the Emperor for a while before being rechristened the Adeptas Sororitias and being brought into the Ecclesiarchy.

So not really.

>> No.55803509

>>55803375
This. AdMech fans are just bitter WAAC assholes that think WarConvo was a totally balanced list.

>> No.55803510

>>55803494
seek sunlight

>> No.55803511
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>>55802856
Did Tomb Kings get squatted? I wanted to use some of their basic skeletons to make cultists like pic related. GW doesn't seem to have any on their website.

>> No.55803515

>>55803480
>You realize that the Taus entire society is a top down caste system which enforces pre established roles that no one can break out of, right?

Sounds right to me.

>> No.55803517

>>55803511
Yup

>> No.55803519

>>55803496
Boy do they, but yeah it's something I only know due to stupidly good memory at remembering fucking trivia that is of barely any use outside of worldbuilding.

>> No.55803525

>>55803511
>Did Tomb Kings get squatted?
Yup along with Brettonia.
The two coolest looking armies gone

>> No.55803529

>>55803511
Have you checked the Age of Sigmar section of the site? I was suprised to learn that most of the Fantasy line was still existent. It might be under Forces of Destruction or something.

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>>55803376
Statuesque Miniatures, Heads
Dream Forge, Bodies
Puppets of Wad, wings
GW and FW, for guns and vehicles

>>55803388
Actually rather good kits I'm actually having fun again with the hobby and game.
Years of playing and painting Marines killed all the joy 40k had

>> No.55803540
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>>55803511
They have other skeletons still available under the Deathrattle name.

>> No.55803547

>>55803515

Except that the entire point of the progressive creed is to run roughshod over established roles, so, no. If only the Imperium had the wisdom and the foresight of the Tau they wouldn't be about to suffer this fate.

>> No.55803548

>>55803525
Did they ever justify it?

>> No.55803553

>>55803488
Necrons have more wargear than 3 things though?

>> No.55803555
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>>55803422
Ok, but in all seriousness, if they've always played and have had fun so far, why change it? You were clearly having fun already. And how many of the people working on the game are non-white? Do you have numbers on the player demographics or the effects of diversifying the game?

>> No.55803556

>>55803529
Tomb Kings are gone but skeletons are still around under Grand Alliance of death

>> No.55803562

>>55803538
thanks dude. Were they costly at all? I know that a metal SoB squad is like a good hundred bucks now.

Also, how tall are they? The look like they'd dwarf IG.

>> No.55803564

>>55803538
Looks like shit, thanks for posting.

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>>55803511
>Did Tomb Kings get squatted?
Certainly not.

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>>55803525
Damn it, I miss tomb kings, some damn cool models in there. Nobody commands Settra, Settra rules.

>>55803538
Sweet, been thinking of doing the same for my SoB army given I really want to make a SoB force and have for a long time and the Dreamforge + Statuesque heads has a nice look to it.

>> No.55803581

>>55803553
The level of customization is still really low. Crypteks have no options. Overlords basically pick between a warscythe or a staff of light.

>> No.55803589

>>55803416
Why did we lose our Melta-bombs? Why did we lose the option to take Bolter, Chainswords, and Bolt Pistols? Why are half the Icons offensively bad? Why is all of the Tzeentch material garbage? Why didn't we get Nurgle and Tzeentch characters added to replace Ahriman and Typhus?

>> No.55803591

>>55803579
Settra was a glorious badass.

>> No.55803592

>>55803547
>Except that the entire point of the progressive creed is to run roughshod over established roles, so, no.

I disagree, currently they seem keen to divide everyone along racial lines. In Tau socitey every Caste is equal.

>> No.55803596

>>55803548

It's called Age Of Shitmar for a reason.

>> No.55803610

>>55803548
They weren't popular.

>> No.55803612

>>55803548
Low sales based on bad rules, so instead of fixing the rules they just moved the entire line to online only and when sales for some reason didn't increase they killed them off.

>> No.55803613

Here are my razorwing flock proxies!

https://www.alie

xpress.com/item/Cheap-8pcs-Foam-Artificial-Bird-Flower-Supplies-For-Wedding-Car-Decoration-DIY-Scrapbooking-Decorative-Wreath-Fake/32578658915.html?spm=2114.search0104.3.40.cERS0i&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_3_10152_10065_10151_10068_10344_10342_10343_10340_10341_10307_10060_10155_10154_10056_10055_10054_10059_5370017_10534_10533_10532_100031_10099_10338_10339_10103_10102_5590020_10052_10053_10142_10107_10050_10051_10084_10083_10080_10082_10081_10110_10175_10111_10112_10113_10114_10312_10313_10314_10078_10079_10073-10102,searchweb201603_1,ppcSwitch_3&btsid=b90e4ee3-554e-4873-944b-dbbae238fccf&algo_expid=b7f99be8-eb7d-4b2f-b4f7-39c82bbec727-5&algo_pvid=b7f99be8-eb7d-4b2f-b4f7-39c82bbec727

>> No.55803618
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Post cool game shots

>> No.55803626
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>>55803576
I will never not see...

>> No.55803628

>>55803592

In Tau society every caste is equal insofar as every caste has meaning and purpose by helping to fulfill the Greater Good. As far as actual power and influence in their society goes, no, they're not equal.

>> No.55803631

I guess it feels good as Tau you get to pick 4 things from like 15 options for commander customization

>> No.55803633

>>55803618
You actually play?

>> No.55803641

>>55803129
>>55803014
>>55803139
But the thing is, there have been female soldiers in fluff forever - the models just haven't represented that. This isn't them shoehorning women into factions that canonically don't have them like Orks or Space Marines, it's them making a Facebook post and saying they'll put more female characters in, then listing characters from 40k and talking about the IG, which has had females forever.

>> No.55803645

>>55803631
...and then pick 4 fusions blasters anyway.

>> No.55803647

>>55803480
This is bait but I'll bite.
>Tau castes
Everyone has a place but no-one is above the others, Farmer are just as important and celebrated as Firewarriors with the only exception being the ethereals due to their leadership role.

>squatting slannesh
you realize they literally just launched a start collecting box for slannesh right? Not to mention how it's been an anchor point for eldar lore which is becoming a focus yet again

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>>55803517
>>55803525
>>55803576
Well shit. Kinda wanted them because it was alot of bare skeletons I could mix with a box of cultists to make some easy conversions
>>55803540
Yea they also have pic related tho it is push fit which is kinda off putting. I'll have to keep looking
>>55803529
Didn't see much in my original search but I'm gonna keep looking.

Anyone know any third party retailers that might still have some laying about?

>> No.55803654

>>55803645
Hopefully the codex will make it so other things don't suck

>> No.55803655

>ctan can summon an antimatter meteor
>A meteor made of antimatter would begin annihilating the atmosphere immediately upon entry, converting it into a total energy explosion
>This explosion would Cascade downwards as the meteor continued it's path.
>The first thing people would see is a huge wall of light brighter than the sun, bathing them in energies greater than the Hiroshima Nuke.
>Then what remains of the meteor would impact the ground, creating an explosion that would again be greater than any nuclear explosion to date.
>This awesome force, rivaling the singularity at the beginning of the universe, creates enough energy to almost certainly collapse into a black hole
>It kills three conscripts.

>> No.55803657

>>55803441
Wrong, it actually is 'Daughters Of The Emperor'. And they have no vow of chastity. So, LEARN THE DAMN LORE!

>> No.55803658
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>>55803562
Taller than marinelet, a bit shorter than Primaris. In other words they have a proper scale for a human in power armour.

Found an older picture. Yep that Guardamen used to be a BT Neophyte when Guardamen came in boxes of 20 for just a bit more than a squad of marines.
It made sense back then because Neophytes basically worked as meat shield for marines

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>>55803633
Of course I do, what loser just shitposts all day?

>> No.55803665

>>55803631
I have exactly one option on my farseer and it's garbage. Not really all that jelly though since farseers do their job really well and aren't the only decent entry in the index.

>> No.55803670

>>55803645
not everyone is looking to dine on the newest flavor of cheese m8

>> No.55803674

>>55803655
But can he do so after disembarking?

>> No.55803678

>>55803589
I kind of get the bolter-chainsword-boltpistol thing, since those are all free now letting us take all three would just mean everyone would.
As for Typhus and Ahriman they ARE Legion specific, it's not like you can put Lucius or Kharn in any old CSM list they're leaders of their legions too, it's just they don't get their own codex so they're still in the CSM codex.

>> No.55803679

>>55803592
>all caste are equal
>but some caste are more equal than others
Yeah right, Ethereal sure are equal

>> No.55803682

>>55802923
>>/misc/

>> No.55803683
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r8 my list /tg/

>> No.55803689

>>55803674
Yes, but they don't have a transport that can hold them.

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>>55803661
>what loser just shitposts all day

>> No.55803693

>>55803683
RIP Army builder.

>> No.55803694

>>55803683
fucking facebook normies

>> No.55803698
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>equality in 40k

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>>55803641
>then listing characters from 40k
Only the first one is from 40k, actually.

>> No.55803706

>>55803679
They're totally equal, they're just so happen to have the duty of being in charge!
This is the position the ivory tower progressives imagine themselves in.

>> No.55803713

>>55803661
I-I mean i am in the process of painting my army

>> No.55803717

>>55803139
>they got mad at little plastic men and demanded they change it so they'll feel better about it.
Where the fuck do you think you are

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>>55803618
>Post cool game shots

We were outgunned.

>> No.55803724

>>55803641
>This isn't them shoehorning women into factions that canonically don't have them

Except they just made Vostroyans unisex.

>> No.55803726
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Guys... when are they coming back? I miss them dearly.

>> No.55803727

>>55803658
is that the Valkyrie heavy troopers or the Valkyrie Assault Troopers?

>> No.55803736

>>55803655
Does it say what size the meteor is?

>> No.55803743

>>55803494
>55803494
>waaaah! he eloquently and intelligently refuted my points!
>he needs to go!
Sorry, this isn't your safe space. That's /r9k/.

>> No.55803744

>>55803724
That happened long ago under FFG's contract don't think that was a new thing.

>> No.55803752

>>55803658
holy fuck those bolter bitches are tall

>> No.55803757

>>55803724
Bullshit.
Vostroyans specifically get given money to spread their seed so there'll be more firstborns.
You can't have female Vostroyans it makes no sense, Catachans, Cadians and Mordians I'll believe and not care but Vostroyans no.
>>55803422
>>55803743
nah fuck off

>> No.55803759

>>55803724
Wasn't the entire gimmick of Not! Imperial Russia "First Born"
It just said First Born, not "First Born Male"

I do not recall a major regiment splicity stating men/women only. I could be wrong since GW lore after 4th has been all over the place and not really worth reading

>> No.55803761

>>55803736
No, I suppose not. It's greater than 2mm otherwise it would be a micro meteor.

>> No.55803765

>>55803717
In a place where at least some people actually play the game? I mean, if GW's this much in a pandering mood, maybe we should start complaining on social media about how the game needs more balance and how better balance would make the game more appealing to a more diverse audience. Maybe in 3 years we could have a decent game?

>> No.55803767
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>>55803618
before I sold my stormlord and shelved my world eaters

>> No.55803770

>>55803757
They've been unisex for 10 years ever since Dark Heresy came out so why is it now a problem?

>> No.55803773
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>>55803702
it was bothering me.

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>>55803042
Big.

>> No.55803782

>>55803555
>Do you have numbers on the player demographics or the effects of diversifying the game?
Do you? Since your argument seems to be that adding models that are women or minorities is going to make people abandon the game in droves... But then, stupid people think that was the same reason the new Mass Effect failed. And not the fact that it was kinda half-assed and relying on the brand name more than its content.

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>>55803774

>> No.55803787

>>55803744
So, if Space Marines start using multi-lasers, nobody should be surprised, GW gave their blessing to that fluff.

>> No.55803790

>>55803727
Both. Assault were used for Seraphims since arms worked better for dual wielding pistols. While the Normal ones worked just fine as every other SoB unit.

GW fit nicely on their hands

>> No.55803798

>>55803678
Space Wolves still get Uber Grit. It's clearly not a balance issue.

My issue with the lack of replacement characters is that the Marks have pretty much lost all meaning and are just another arbitrary restriction we have to build around.

>> No.55803799

>>55803724
Nah, that was FFG games. GW retains that it's Firstborn Sons.

>>55803759
>It just said First Born, not "First Born Male"

Nope, it;s specifically Firstborn son.

>> No.55803801

>>55803770
Because I'm only just hearing about this change now obviously.
I haven't even been playing the game that long.
But I know that Vostroyans can't be unisex because that's not how they fucking work.
This sounds made up, are you making shit up to shitpost about?

>> No.55803809

>>55803435
>>55803462
If they removed options to move in the direction of the original codex, that would be OK. I loved the super-spare, mysterious death robots and "Literally Tomb Kings in Space" was kind of a letdown.

>> No.55803810

>>55803782
Are you saying that the Diverse Crew that worked on Mass Effect Andromeda half-assed it? What are you racist?

>> No.55803820

>>55803784
I want that gretchin standard bearer.

>> No.55803824

>>55803801
Nope when FFG got the contract for 40k RPG's they decided to make Vostroyans be unisex so players will not feel limited.

>> No.55803825

>>55803613
What the fuck is that url.

No way I'm subjecting my browser to that.

>> No.55803832

>>55803770
>why is it now a problem?
Because he's triggered.

>> No.55803833

>>55803798
The Space Wolves players at my store are still in army building mode and not playing the game mode so I don't know what Uber Grit is.
Mind you it's also perfectly legal for a Noise Champion to take a Sonic Blaster, Doom Siren, and a Combi-bolter and fire them all at once with no penalty so there's that.

>> No.55803836

>>55803824
Yeah, but they also made the Sister of Battle occupation unisex so.....

>> No.55803838
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>>55803759
>It just said First Born, not "First Born Male"

Nigga, that's been their fluff since the beginning.

>>55803770
Yet GW publications kept towing the "first-born sons" line up until the last codex, so GW clearly didn't give two shits about what FFG wrote in their books. They don't even care what BL writes.

>> No.55803847

>>55803782
>Since your argument seems to be that adding models that are women or minorities is going to make people abandon the game in droves

It probably will if they follow previous models.
People don't like being talked down too, especially nerds. GW have yet to cross into insult your own fanbase territory but once they do it's a point of no return.

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>>55803824
Oh you startled me, I thought you were talking about canon.

>> No.55803853

>>55803799
>GW retains that it's Firstborn Sons.

Then why does the Codex say "first-born child" and not "son"?

>> No.55803862

>>55803809
The original codex had more options for HQ's than we do now.

>> No.55803870
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So GW does it! they make female guard models, dozens of them!

But they're all pin-up models, wat do?

>> No.55803873

>>55803810
>hurr hurr, you're racist!
>even though I'm the one who's bitching about minorities and women in the game
Yeah yeah, I'm soooooo racist.

Re-using models and shit is fucking lazy. But no, faggots like you insist on the reason that it failed was because women worked on it and/or were many of the major characters. Since there's no helping that kind of stupidity, I'll just let you wallow in your ignorance.

>> No.55803874

>>55803836
Sisters of Cuddles
Kind of hard to remove the girl part from it.
>Trotsky First Born Son
>Trotsky First Born
Not hard to do with them.

Honestly who cares? They are a post 3rd regiment so they are automatically shit

>> No.55803877

>>55803852
So should I point to the current codex that says they are unisex or does that not count either? How does it feel to be the new oldcron fags that can't accept that fluff changes all the god damned time.

>> No.55803888

>>55803782
>Do you?

You're the one making the claim here. "Can you disprove my assertions" is not proof.

>your argument seems to be that adding models that are women or minorities is going to make people abandon the game in droves

Where did I say that?

>And not the fact that it was kinda half-assed and relying on the brand name more than its content.

Yeah, the problem wasn't that they had niggers on board, the problem was those niggers were lazy.

Damn, son, control your racism.

>> No.55803889

>>55803870
Best time!
I'd be happy if we had Pin up miniatures version for every faction.

>> No.55803895

>>55803091
chimeras armed with dual heavy flamers sound expensive. Are they worth it?

>> No.55803902

>>55803385
Ok, this post made my day.
The greatest troll of the renaissance.

>> No.55803905
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>>55803873
Don't tell me....

Did you actually buy the game?

>> No.55803907

>>55803799
Wrong, codex says "In an act of mercy, the Vostroyans were given a chance to atone for their sins and repay their debt to the Emperor. For ten thousand years the Vostoyans have given up the firstborn child of every family for service in the imperial guard. There are no excecptions to this. even the greatest noble families must comply. However, to the Vostroyans, it is seen as an honour to serve in the tank crews and Firstborn infantry regiments, for the populace considers the repayment of their debt to be of paramount importance."

So, no, you are wrong with the retcon. You can stick your head in the sand and ignore it, but, that's how it is now. This is just like the old necron lore shit which was pretty fucking bad, there were gems in old cronlore that I wish carried over, but, oh god was it shit overall.

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>>55803618
The Kabal caught not 1 but 2 Carnifexes in our narrative campaign. The objective was to catch 1 with a custom fluff'd up paralyzing net.

>> No.55803916

>>55803847
Nigger, noone is talking down to anyone. They're adding female models and some whiny bitches are getting their panties in a twist over it. That's all.

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>>55803873
Everyone knows Andromeda failed because it was shit.
Part of the reason it was shit is because instead of working on the gameplay and graphics they shoehorned as much LGBT and POC as they could, they made a gay tranny Krogan for fucks sake.
>>55803877
>why won't you accept this blatant rape of established fluff as positive change
Because it's dumb.
But go on, show me where in the codex it says they're suddenly unisex, show me where the codex explicitly states they've fucked years of fluff for no reason other than "muh diversity"

>> No.55803931

>>55803889
The anniversary model is a Felinid

>> No.55803943

>>55803930
I never thought about lewding the battle loli i swear

>> No.55803946

>>55803888
>I don't have an argument, so I'm just going to throw around insults and move the goalposts
Typical.

So what exactly is so triggering about the female/minority models?

>> No.55803950

>>55803916
>Nigger, noone is talking down to anyone.

Not yet. But it never starts that way. Once they start with the "white male" crap it's over.

>> No.55803958

>>55803931
>the model is a cat with a human face
>no pin up cat girl in glorious IG uniform
This will never happen.

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>>55803889
Pin up Fulgrim when?

>> No.55803967

>>55803283
Hope for pariah and silent king models. Maybe ultraheavy destroyer. More cryptek science. Tessaract, flame gauntlet and mindshacle as relics. A proper use for the deathmarks. A purpose for the now defunct Lycheguards. An actual rp relic phylactery for your bossman. Warlord traits and factionwide dynasty buffs.

>> No.55803970

>>55803905
Not only that, I enjoyed it! *gasp*

I know, it's hard to understand how someone might enjoy a game where all the main characters aren't big tough manly men. You'll understand when you grow up and are no longer 12.

>> No.55803973

>>55803930
See Oldcron fags complained all the damn time and guess what Newcrons a still a thing. It's the same as complaining about the chaos wank it might suck, it might rape old lore but it's still the canon, and surprise you don't have to buy the models or use the fluff.

>> No.55803974 [SPOILER] 
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>>55803930
Wait, wait, they took all the LGBT characters, including a gay tranny Krogan and shipped them to the next galaxy?

This is rich! Seriously, when are we going to do that IRL?

>> No.55803980

>>55803930
>instead of working on the gameplay and graphics they shoehorned as much LGBT and POC as they could, they made a gay tranny Krogan for fucks sake.

No, anon, no. That diversity was the strength of the game. The real problem was that they weren't given time and money to do the actual game and graphics for all the gay tranny Krogan cock.

>> No.55803988

>>55803538
Damn, do you have any better angles?
I really want to actually see these models, (considering a sisters army and I hate metal). Do you have any shots of them from the front?

>> No.55803991

>>55803950
They already did.
Faggots think that this miniatures are already painted.
It is the only explanation for people bitching about skin tones in GW models.

Is not like you can determine the race of a model with the facial features at this scale.

>> No.55803999
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>>55803964
He'll have an unarmoured option, just like Magnus.

>> No.55804002

>>55803930
Who the fuck is this Krogan you are talking about?

>> No.55804008

>>55803967
Pariahs are dead still, Matt Ward will never return them to us. Although fluff wise this would be a great time to bring them back with all the chaos running around.

>> No.55804012

>>55803980

>That diversity was the strength of the game

I bet you unironically think the Tau are the good guys too

>> No.55804014

>>55803930
>they made a gay tranny Krogan for fucks sake.
I don't remember that character at all.

Also they slacked off on the important stuff because they were adding too many gays and minorities to it? Pull your head out of your ass, the lack of oxygen is starting to cause brain damage.

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>>55803930
More like they handed the project and assets off to the ME3 multiplayer team and told them "make a full game" and gave them no time or money really to do it, lol. It was bad on the merit of top down it failed because Bioware didn't give a shit about the game and only was contractually obligated to make a 4th game by EA before making a new IP which is what they really wanted to do.

And the codex doesn't say they suddenly changed the policy, they just retconned the policy to just be firstborn, go DL the codex and open to page 23 and read paragraph 2.

>> No.55804019

>>55803946
>don't have proof to back up my claims, so call them names and switch subject
As expected.

So, what exactly is so triggering about not having female/minority models?

>> No.55804026

>>55803833
>>55803833
True Grit was a USR that some units had in 4e that allowed them to treat Bolters as additional CCW's, allowing units like Grey Knights to get the 2 CCW bonus despite lacking pistols.

Uber Grit was a term used to describe units that carried all three of Bolter, CCW, and Pistol. Honestly, it's not like the bonus attacks from Chainswords would make CSM that much better, it just infuriates me that GW claim no models were invalidated by 8E yet I have fifty-ish CSM models with illegal load-outs.

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55804036

Would using these as clawed fiends be cool?

>> No.55804038

>>55803991
>They already did.

Did what? I don't think they've brought up brought up the topic of white men yet.

>> No.55804039

>>55804012
No, I think they good boys and they din du nuffin.

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>>55803988
Not really, just very old WIP pictures when I discover that Vallejo White spray primer hates Dream Forge plastic. (Fucking thing ate it, so I did what I could to save the model)

Also my Old BT and WM Terrorist Elves

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>>55803999
>it's shit like this that reminds me why I play Adeptus Mechanicus.

>> No.55804056

>>55803950
>Once they start with the "white male" crap it's over.
It's hard not to address it, when faggots like you keep screaming at them about it.

>>55804019
Nothing. But I'm also not the one who's currently carrying on a massive case of butthurt because, "hurr, no gurls allowed!"

>> No.55804057

Is a commisars "only one model dies to morale" an aura ability? Can the nemmessor shut it down?

>> No.55804065

>>55804050
I've seen the way AdMech stares at toasters. Shit's unseemly.

>> No.55804069

>Playing a Siege Marine List
>Using Imperial Fists as the tactics because it feels right.
>Seeing all the delicious tactics the other chapters get

The struggle is real anons, I'm really, REALLY trying to break the theme to grab Raven Guard tactics or Hands

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>>55804012
>I bet you unironically think the Tau are the good guys too
There's no need to be upset

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>>55804050
Here you go, fresh off the STC fragment.

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>>55804065
That's a WHOLESOME LOVE you will never SULLY

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>>55804098

>> No.55804106

>>55804047
Ok, thx.
I posted and then scrolled down to the size comparison one and promptly slammed my head into the table in irritation.
This helps a lot, thanks.

>> No.55804112

>>55804056
>It's hard not to address it

It's always easy not to insult your core customer base.

>when faggots like you keep screaming at them about it.

I have never once screamed at GW or anyone else. I just know the pattern. First they start pandering to a new target demo, then they start changing things to be more inclusive, when the old guard aren't happy and they don't do as well as they think they're going to do they lash out and then it;s freefall.

GW are yet to attack shit on white men, but it's precarious now.

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>>55804085
>where did all this lubricant come from

>> No.55804123

>>55804098
One AdMech's wholesome love is another man's heresy.

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>>55803862
What a time to be alive.

>>55803877
>How does it feel to be the new oldcron fags that can't accept that fluff changes all the god damned time.
Or HH fags.

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>>55803870
I wonder how much money Corvus Belli actually makes of these things.

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>>55803943
Damn straight you didn't.
>>55803973
>show me where it explicitly states they're unisex
>gives a small lecture on the nature of the canon instead
What?
>>55803974
Soon I hope
>>55803980
Wrong, even employees were coming out and saying the work environment was impossible because everyone just did their own thing, wouldn't listen to criticisms from the people who had the fucking job to criticise things so they could be fixed, and any criticisms were turned into complaints for the HR department.
Basically the entire thing was a shitshow of entitlement.
>>55803999
I'm cool with that.
>>55804002
One of the Krogans had a gay lisp and I honestly just assumed it was a female but it was pointed out to me that no, it was the Krogan equivalent of a trap. Like they didn't even try to give him a Krogan voice.
They have a good Krogan character too I heard from my friend who did buy the game like an idiot so they don't even really have an excuse.
>>55804014
>I can't say he's wrong so I'll just insult him
Employees at Bioware were coming out and SAYING that no work got done because any complaints were seen as "hostile" so they couldn't be told to do their job and instead just shoehorned in a bunch of "diversity" which is what they wanted and no one did any real work on the game.
>>55804017
Of course they retconned it, right, fuck it, my Renegade Vostroyans are getting female daemonette mutations now, fuck it and fuck GW for doing this stupid shit, they're getting a Renegade Enforcer made out of a Herald and a Commissar kitbash.
>>55804026
I know the feel, my Terminator Lord was greenstuffed to have a sick mutation whip that I fluffed as the Emperor's Children relic, he was made on the tail end of 7th and now the whip is only available to units that can take Bolt Pistols and isn't even a real melee weapon.

>> No.55804145

>>55804127
Fluff is one thing, but gutting our gear lists is just mean.

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>>55804123
Come to the forge world and tell me how heretical it is see how that works out for you.

>> No.55804151

>>55804112
>First they start pandering to a new target demo, then they start changing things to be more inclusive
Now explain why this is a bad thing? Because once again, it's pure fee-fees that you're going on here.

It must be hard to be constantly persecuted by us mean ow' libruls, huh?

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>First this
>Then fluff changes for incusivisity
>Bowing to Feminism on social media
>ADB goes on a SJW rant on twitter

It'll all be over soon, lads.

>> No.55804163

>>55804056
>Nothing. But I'm also not the one who's currently carrying on a massive case of butthurt because, "hurr, no gurls allowed!"

Nice projection.

Nobody's against women in the Guard, that's been established for ages. But when they start changing the lore, like with Vossies... See, the big problem, as with ME (since it was brought up) is not that they put diversity in it, but how they put it in. If they do it terribly and half-ass the whole thing, they'll make a shitty product and nobody's gonna respect it even trying. It's just a bad product and all people will remember about it is the thing they ham-fisted into it.

>> No.55804167

>>55804131
Hey Renegade Vostroyans with female daemonette mutations actually you know fits in universe and being lead by a Herald of Slaanesh mixed with a Commissar reminds me of a Caiaphas Cain story.

>> No.55804168

>>55803702
I love that model. I was considering picking her up and using her as a 40k model. What rules would be good for her? I was thinking of making her some kind of saint for my Guard. Might use some special characters rules like Straken or something.

>> No.55804178

Answer without thinking much about it /tg/.
Alkett or Scharnhorst

>> No.55804179

>>55804151
>Now explain why this is a bad thing?

By pandering to a new target audience you neglect you current audience. This obviously causes resentment, simple, no?
People like things, and don't like what it gets changed into to suit others.

>> No.55804180

>>55804131
>entire thing was a shitshow of entitlement.

Who would have thought people who are all about diversity are entitled...

>> No.55804181

>>55804131
Did you expect any less from them keeping things consistant means jack shit to them. Just look at BL.

>> No.55804201

>>55804179
>adding female whatever would make things worse for the current audience

That logic only works for gay bars. Are you a dark angels player?

Why?

>> No.55804207

>>55804179
>By pandering to a new target audience you neglect you current audience.
It's a good thing you don't run a business, because there's nothing mutually exclusive about the 'target audiences' for our game, that requires us to somehow shun minorities or women.

>> No.55804216

>>55803724
Is there some announcement about the Vostroyans on the GW website?

>> No.55804217

>>55804179
I don't think the kids who play marines or the weebs who play tau, or any flavor of WAACfags will care. And the largest demographic of buyers the modelers will probably be ok with it as it means more shit to model.

>> No.55804224

>>55804179
GW has been neglecting their consumers for decades now.

For example with my marines I always have new stuff to buy. With the rest of my models it is almost a community event when one of my armies get something new

>> No.55804236

>>55804216
Does anyone actually read the fucking codex anymore?

>> No.55804240

>>55804151
It's a bad thing because changing years of established fluff for "diversity" makes the fluff shit.
No one likes it and the target demographic they're trying to appeal to doesn't even play.
None of the girls at my LGS even want to play Guard and I guarantee they don't know or care about this change since they play Tyranids, Eldar, and Dark Eldar because my store is full of stereotypes. Thankfully none of the stereotypes are gross fat ones except for my friend but he's trying to lose weight and showers so he isn't disgusting.
>>55804167
I was just doing it because I have plenty of Daemonette bits, I haven't read the Caiaphas Cain stories but I've heard of them from the store owner.
>>55804180
To the shock of no one.
>>55804181
Fair point.
>>55804201
>add female models to an army with established lore
No one gives a shit about female models as it is, Eldar factions, Daemons of Slaanesh, and SoB proves that.
It's when you shoehorn females into a faction that shouldn't have them that we start to have a problem you multi-nigger.

>> No.55804245

>>55804148
I'm not saying that you can't have your fun, I have a problem with the fact I'm supposed to put bread into it afterwards, then eat it.

>> No.55804249

>>55804236
>implying the majority that bought it got it for the fluff
WAACfags don't read lore anon.

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>>55803653
HOLY FUCK I NEED THIS. Do the IG troop helms come separate from their heads?

>> No.55804251

>>55804236
I don't play Guard, I just read some of the novels.

>> No.55804255

>>55804236
Anyone with some self respect stop reading the lore after 4th.

>> No.55804267

>>55803964
Related question: Where can I get male minis to make fuckboi cultists of Slaanesh?

>> No.55804269

>>55804224
I know how you feel, I was amazed (and more than a bit annoyed) when plastic Hydra, Ogryn, and Stormtroopers came out. Because I had a custom hydra and was going to get some metal stormtroopers which well, good luck with those sculpts now.

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>>55804236
>reading the paper jew

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>>55804245
Who said you get access to my toaster, go get some other magi's toaster.

>> No.55804280

>>55804207
>It's a good thing you don't run a business, because there's nothing mutually exclusive about the 'target audiences' for our game, that requires us to somehow shun minorities or women.

Shunning them and forcing them on people is different. GW haven't crossed the line yet, but they are closer to it now.

>>55804217

>> No.55804286

>>55804240
>Adding female space Marines would be shoehorning.

It would be no more stupid than primaris Marines, and the same lore could justify it.

>> No.55804298

>>55804240
>It's a bad thing because changing years of established fluff for "diversity" makes the fluff shit.
First of all, Vostroyans are a minor fucking part of the established fluff. They're one regiment, and first born sons, to first born anything, is a minor change.

The fact that you're making such a big deal about a very minor part of Imperial Guard fluff makes it really seem that it has nothing to do with the fluff, and that you're just bitching about "muh diversity".

>> No.55804299

>>55804249
>>55804251
>>55804255
>>55804270
Open wide, here comes the choo-choo train: >>55804017

>> No.55804301
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>>55804250
Only 1 per sprue, as an extra.

>> No.55804303
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A while back, I asked for dubs to name an overlord who would surf a Catacomb Command Barge into battle, and got the name 'The Brah'.

Here he is. Getting a strong Kuzco vibe from him. Its great.

>> No.55804306

>>55804278
It's MY toaster! If you have one at home keep your filthy mechadendrites off mine, or I may have to share your "service history" with your stay-at-home toaster.

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>>55804245
>the simian believes toasters were used to toast bread
The ignorance of Terrans knows no limit.

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>GK Apothecary overwatching a Wraithguard
>Krak Grenade
>hit
>wound
>1 on save
>3 damage

>> No.55804319

>>55804250
There are some loose helmets, but like, 1 or 2 per sprue at most.

You will be best off looking for helmets on ebay or something.

>> No.55804322

>>55804303
They're doing the twist, nice.

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>>55804306
Bitch do you want to be a servitor, because that is how you become a servitor.

>> No.55804324

>>55804303
Guy who got those dubs here. You did fucking awesome brah.

>> No.55804327

>>55804286
>the same lore could justify it.

How? Primarines are just space marines with some extra organs, which derived from the primarchs.

>> No.55804335

So I gotta ask.

Who's been using Reaver heads to make Chaplains?

>> No.55804339

>>55804267
Well know I have to do that too.
How fuckboi? Slim no body fat trapmode fuckboi or toned and muscled fuckboi?
Because some of the shirtless cultists are pretty ripped even if they are snapfit.
Alternatively kitbash dark eldar wracks, they look like they're wearing corsets and everything.
>>55804286
It would be even more stupid than Primaris Marines, not that I like Primaris either, Cawl and Girlyman commit heresy and of course they get away with it because "Herohammer 40k"
>>55804298
>this change is so minor it doesn't really matter
Are you fucking trying to downsize this and make it seem not as bad? Do you admit that it's shit but so minor you just don't care?
Regardless of your answers fuck off.

>> No.55804340

>>55804303
Okay 1 down now just need to get sisterfister to deliver

>> No.55804341

>>55804312
Just because I burn bread with Miss July from Chromeboy does not make me ignorant.

>> No.55804351

>>55804298
So, where do you draw the line? When is a change big enough that it'll affect your enjoyment of the setting?

>> No.55804352

So, is there any way beyond buying forgeworld to get a standard space marine Apothecary (nor primarius) anymore? I can't seem to find it on GW's page and all I see on Ebay is ohgodthinyourpaints and mini's that belong in a museum or superfund site.

>> No.55804354

>>55804327
Heretech cawl improved in the space Marine process. While tinkering, he figures out female space Marines. Guillman, not being one to shun a 100% increase in recruitment in such dark times, allows the chapters to double their numbers to 2000 with the addition of female Marines.

>> No.55804355

>>55804339
>Are you fucking trying to downsize this and make it seem not as bad? Do you admit that it's shit but so minor you just don't care?
It isn't as bad you insufferable faggot!

This retardation is why I stick to HHG.

>> No.55804361

>>55804323
I'm feeling a strong urge to "refit" you as a vacuum cleaner.

>> No.55804367

I haven't played since 8th came out, looking to get back in. Are there rules for Renegades & Heretics?

>> No.55804373

>>55804355
>HHG
Yeah no arguments about lore rape there at all.

>> No.55804385

>>55804367
Yes in Imperial Armor.

>> No.55804386

>>55804355
>it's not that bad guys I swear
Fucking kill yourself, put yourself out of everyone else's misery you waste of carbon.

>> No.55804388

>>55804367
Nothing special yet. I think you're rolled into the CSM Codex right now.

>> No.55804389

>>55804367
Forgeworld Index Astra Militarum. Pretty weak though and who knows when Forgeworld will get around to looking at them again.

>> No.55804392

>>55804352
Command squad box should still have the bits for one.

Or are you looking for an individual apothecary model and not just the bits?

>> No.55804395

>>55804367
There are, but you're better off running guard and pretending they are chaos.

>> No.55804399

>>55804298
>you're just bitching about "muh diversity".

Why shouldn't he? Why should any change be acceptable for the sake of pleasing people who don't like the fluff or game?
Where do you draw the line? Where does the integrity of the setting come before the needs of outsiders to feel welcomed?

>> No.55804409

>>55804389
They are fun for conversions options if you are into that. It's half the reason why I got into them.

>> No.55804413

>>55803014
Cease.

>> No.55804418

>>55804388
>>55804389
>>55804395
I just want my meme artillery list back. My poor Ordnance Tyrant is just gathering dust

>> No.55804419

>>55804399
Wherever the authors/owners choose to draw it.

>> No.55804421

>>55804392
Bit's is enough for me.

>> No.55804429

>>55804399
The implication that people who would like female space Marines don't play the game or enjoy the setting overall is false.

If you believe otherwise, justify your belief.

>> No.55804430

>>55804354
Why would Chapters double their size?

>> No.55804434

>>55804367
Yeah but they're pretty bad, some options didn't get proofread, I think the guy working on them died before release and they didn't get someone else to finish it.
Renegade Enforcers for example are supposed to take an option from the Melee Weapon List and the Pistol Weapon List. There is no pistol weapon list all the pistols are on the ranged weapon list.

>> No.55804445

>>55804354
I don't think you understand what a Gene seed is.

>> No.55804451
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>>55804354
>Heretech cawl improved in the space Marine process.

With organs the Emperor made. He didn't unlock the secrets of the gene-seeds, he just made a few extra ones from pre-existing blueprints. None of this changed how all the other gene-seeds worked.

If he could redesign the previous gene-seeds, why even bother with the extra 3? Just incorporate their abilities into the existing ones and fix all the problems with the chapters with mutated seeds.

>"My lord, you have all this technology, why didn't you fix the gene-seeds of hundreds of chapters to make their recruitment more efficient and help them combat losses due to faults in their gene-seeds."
>"I don't want to fix Space Marines, I want to make ones with boobs!"

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>>55804399
>40k
>any gw property
>integrity
Thats a funny joke anon.

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55804454

Can I get some reviews of my oneshot Dark Heresy adventure for a bunch of bleeding-new players? Any tips would be appreciated.

https://pastebin.com/FJ1Ui5wD

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>>55804250
>>55804301
>>55804319
There are also sources for Cadian helmets that already come with skulls inside, but they're even less practical.

>> No.55804460

>>55804429
>The implication that people who would like female space Marines don't play the game or enjoy the setting overall is false.

That's not what I implied. If those people already play the game and enjoy the setting then you don't need to try and lure them in with diversity bait.

>> No.55804463

>>55804429
Anyone who plays the game and unironically thinks Female Space Marines are a good idea is an idiot and a retard or a really stupid troll.

>> No.55804464

>>55804418
Nope, get fucked WAACfag.

>> No.55804466

>>55804421
Go for the Space Marine Company Command Squad then, it has the bits for an Apothecary along with making a company/chapter ancient/champion. .


Ebay hunting for said bits is another option.

>> No.55804469

>>55804373
Certainly no incessant whining about female Vostroyans.

>> No.55804470

>>55804430
If chapters have been largely holding steady at 1000 with the current male only recruitment, doubling their recruitment potential would mean either doubling the number of people in chapters, or doubling the number of chapters.

>> No.55804484

>>55804429
There are always nutters in any system, who want things their way no matter if it is ill-fitting.

The problem is that if everybody that tried to create something would listen to every single person's criticism, there would be no more diversity, and most certainly no marmite or other skub.

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>>55804361
That's it, mister-you just lost your brain privileges.

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>>55803618

>> No.55804492

>>55804434
It's an easy fix in some cases because most people understand the issue. As long as your oponent isn't some autistic "rules as read" faggot you should be able to fix the mistakes.

>> No.55804493

>>55804470
Women would fail the trials even more than men already do.

>> No.55804494

>>55804469
Just whining about being a dead game.

>> No.55804501

>>55804418
Yeah ordinance tryants are gone, and might not be back.

>> No.55804502

>>55804470
Chapters only hold at 1000 because that's what the codex says they should do. There is no shortage of recruits to become marines.

>> No.55804505

>>55804466
Tempted to get the whole box, desu, because chapter ancient is pretty useful. Champion, eh, but, I can find a use for them.

>> No.55804510

>>55804339
I was thinking cut but not bulky so they'd fit with Diaz daemonettes. I never thought of wracks; they're burlier, but they're otherwise *so good*.

>> No.55804511

I'm thinking of making a Grey Knights army that I was gonna paint a metallic red, with the idea being they got stuck in the warp and are just fuckin covered in Demon blood or some shit.

Are Grey Knights a fun first army to collect? I really don't like the idea of having too many troops fielded partly because I'm poor and GK are the only real elite armies I know from what I've read

>> No.55804519

>>55804460
>If those people already play the game and enjoy the setting then you don't need to try and lure them in with diversity bait.
Do you base all of your assumptions on false premises?

>> No.55804528

>>55804493
Why? Remember this is a setting with space magic and technology like space magic.

>> No.55804535

>>55804492
Yeah I know, just letting you know it's kind of incomplete and the FAQ didn't do a whole lot to fix it besides making some things that should have been characters characters and fixing the list of guard vehicles we can take.
The list still isn't fully fixed there's options that don't exist.
Also Ogryns in a Marauder squad can't take any weapons.

>> No.55804538

>>55804470
>doubling their recruitment potential would mean either doubling the number of people in chapters, or doubling the number of chapters.

Chapters aren't limited to 1000 members and 1000 chapters because of lack of recruits. Ultramarines have plenty of good recruits and a stable gene-seed, they could probably make plenty more. DA want more successors, so they clearly have the ability to man them, but the High Lords don't want to give them successors because of political fears.

>> No.55804544

>>55804488
Shit. Just don't make me polish toasters.

>> No.55804546

So uh how long till this ends?

>> No.55804547
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>>55803618
Barry the Blood-Surfer slaughtered all the Sanguinary guard on his own, despite getting charged and losing the rest of his squad.

>> No.55804549

>>55804528
Same reason men and women sports competitions are separated.

>> No.55804551

>>55804505
If anything, just use the bits to make spare lieutenants/sergeants

>> No.55804559

>>55804510
I was just checking the GW webstore to see if there's any other options, unless you purchase Catachans or something burlier I think wracks might be your best bet, beastmen might work but they'd be worse than Catachans.

>> No.55804566

>>55804303
Love him!

>> No.55804568

>>55804519
What's false exactly?
Diversity shit is supposed to attract a new demographic to your product.
If you already love the product then they don't need to attract you.

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>>55804544
>Not wanting to polish toasters

>> No.55804570

>>55804549
Modern day sports competitions involve space magic and technology like space magic?

>> No.55804572

>>55804546
Latest shitstorm?
Once Codex CWE is up

Shitposting?
Never

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>>55804544
If I had the authority, you'd never see another toaster in your meager lifetime.

>> No.55804579

>>55804528
>Why?

Women are not physically suited for it

>> No.55804588

>>55804573
I accept this.

>> No.55804589

>>55803767
That's a great looking white Anon. Congrats!

>> No.55804591

>>55804568
Or it's supposed to make the product better for those already playing.

But I disagree with the fundamental premise of your argument: wanting to attract more people isn't wrong.

>> No.55804593

>>55804535
Didn't say it was a perfect fix but I do what I can to get by. Helps that I play mostly with friends. Here's hoping that FW gets off their asses soon and fixed that shit.

>> No.55804594

>GW gives in
>starts making tons of female models
>women keep playing tyranids and shit
>most female models are bought by men
>internet outrage machine turns on GW for objectifying women for neckbearded nerds to ogle over

I take back everything, I'm ok with this future we've chosen.

>> No.55804607
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55804607

Deathshroud take on a Wraithknight. I wish they were worth their points, they're so expensive.

>> No.55804626

>>55804572
I hope so

>> No.55804632

>>55804594
Maybe it can drive Hwil Hweaton to suicide.

>> No.55804638

>>55804594
I mean there is a good reason that women play nids and it's something most of the companies that are trying to pander to them don't understand and it's because women don't really want a power fantasy like men do. This is why Marvel has been failing on that front.

>> No.55804658

>>55804301
>>55804319
>>55804457
Well rip my hopes and dreams. The Tomb Kings skeleton warriors are apparently impossible to find. I cannot find them anywhere and any other source of skeleton bits have to much extra bits like medieval armor.

>> No.55804665

>>55804570
It's not space magic, it's basic biology. Probebly why male servitors are more commonly used, and most definitely one of the reasons why a woman would not pass the requirements to become a space marine.
There is a time for joy and the fantasy of ultimate equality, but that is superseded by reality and what it dictates. Don't tell me you HONESTLY believe that men and women are physically equal in nature?

>> No.55804671

>>55804579
Why? Name some trials.

>> No.55804672

>>55804593
I hope so.
At the moment I ran some test games using my small number of cultists as proxy for R&H and one of my Heralds as a Proxy Malefic Lord with my opponents permission.
My store owner is generally fine with people testing things out with proxies and borrowing his models because he figures it might get him sales.
Anyway R&H as they are aren't too good but they work as a secondary or tertiary detachment to back up a main army. Especially since they add much needed snipers to the Chaos Arsenal.

>> No.55804675

>>55804570
Recruits are selected for their natural ability. That means no space or techno magic enhancements, because those are limited resources, things the Imperium cannot waste ... whilst there is no shortage of living human bodies to feed into the grinder.

>> No.55804677

>>55804591
>Or it's supposed to make the product better for those already playing.

No it's not. You don't rock the boat if you have a good thing going unless you think you can do even better.

>But I disagree with the fundamental premise of your argument: wanting to attract more people isn't wrong.

I never said it was. But it depends on how you do it. If you can do it without angering anyone then great. If you can do it and get more new people than you lose people then good. If you only broke even then what was the point? if you net lose people then it;s bad times.

GW could handle it well but I'm doubtful after seeing what's happened with Marvel.

>> No.55804686

>>55804316
POW! Right in the Soulstone!

>If only we didn't mount the pilot and power source unarmored on the front center mass of our robots!

>> No.55804687

>>55804579
Genetically engineered space humans are, regardless of sex.

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>>55804570
>>55804579
Look, you subterranean asswipes: they either can or cannot hack it. If they survive the trails, great. But males will always outnumber the females due to one sex's exposure to a wonderdrug called testosterone.

>> No.55804697

>>55804671
Endurance trials, survivalist trials, combat trials.

>> No.55804707

>>55804594
I want there to be more human female model mostly for the girl at our store. She's made quite a few kitbashed female models. They don't look that great, but she's put in so much effort. She was super excited when she saw some of the girl drawings in the new Guard codex and asking how to go about making them, buying all kinds of kits and ebay bits. It's cute but also sad to see.

>> No.55804708

>>55804671
Weak upper body magic.

>> No.55804728

>>55804665
No, I don't believe that biological humans are physically equal regardless of sex. But from what I know if space Marine recruitment, they aren't necessarily looking for physical ability, they're looking for mental traits that make a good killer. The trials, whatever the space Marine chapters use, could weed out other mentally week individuals. And then the actual technological process takes care if the physical requirements.

>> No.55804754

>>55804672
I just wish FW would actual give them a full model line, don't get me wrong I love the amount conversion options but it seems odd that they have next to nothing for them.

>> No.55804758

>>55804728
>they aren't necessarily looking for physical ability, they're looking for mental traits that make a good killer.

They look for both. Only the very best become Marines.

>> No.55804760

>>55804708
-4 to STR.

>> No.55804778

>>55804677
Marvel virtue signaled, giving us [unsolicited opinions about sexism]. They killed off or otherwise dealt with white male heroes to replace them with minorities and women in the same costumes/personas.

Nobody here is asking for the marvel process. Adding female heads to space Marine boxes wouldn't kill off any make space Marines in canon.

>> No.55804781

Does the Vendetta Gunship benefit from "roving gunship" now that the Valk was updated?

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>>55804510
>>55804559
Probably too swole, but there's also these. Dressed for the part, and a lot cheaper than Wracks per model.

>> No.55804825

How to make necrons good again.

RP applies to morale casualties
Ghostarc open topped

>> No.55804847

>>55803129
>REEEEE GET YOUR COOTIES OUT OF MY PLASTIC ARMY MEN

>> No.55804849

>>55804758
Yeah, I'm sure those roving bands of recruiters in the hive cities are there because the hive City diet is so conducive to physical strength.

>> No.55804851

>>55804825
>Ghostarc opentopped

kek

>> No.55804854

>>55804778
>Nobody here is asking for the marvel process.

The Marvel process started somewhere. It wasn't fine one day and gone the other, it's a slippery slope for the reasons I've already mentioned and also because once you get the extreme types in the company they can promote themselves.

As I said GW isn't in freefall yet, but it's a step down slope just the same.

We've already had ABD get triggered by an ancient /pol/-tier shitpost and start virtue signalling on twitter.

>> No.55804858

>>55804754
I think FW does sell something for them, I know you can buy the Malefic Lords in kits of two Renegade Psykers, so three gets a Lord and a Coven.
I just checked FW site, they sell Militia conversion kits, a Command Squad, Ogryns, a Heavy Stubber team, they do sell a lot but a lot of what they sell is conversion kits. You can buy some squads that just come as squads though.
>>55804807
I'm not certain but those look more swole than the Wracks to me.
Could work though, Slaaneshi Cultist Bodybuilders charging into battle to the tune of Awaken would be hilarious.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUhVCoTsBaM

>> No.55804868

>>55804807
>One nigger

D I V E R S I T Y

top kek

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>>55804849
Yeah, not like vicious gangers could eat well off of the human misery.

>> No.55804881

>>55804671
trial of not ruining your underwear

>> No.55804899

>>55804854
Slippery slope is a fallacy Anon.

>> No.55804900

>>55804858
Yeah they sell some stuff yeah but they don't have any for some units Mutant Rabble come to mind. Although I've gotten a ton out of that everything from skeletons to skaven, I love making fluff for how the renegades found them.

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>>55804868
Truly a travesty.

>> No.55804910

>>55804758
They're looking for 10 year old boys.

>> No.55804922

>>55802856
FLY YOU FOOLS
>>55804912
>>55804912

>> No.55804927

>>55803142
I wonder if a space marine feels the same as a human being attacked by a swarm of angry bees

>> No.55804931

>>55804899
It's a fallacy until you're slipping all the way to bankruptcy.

>> No.55804938

>>55802856

New thread

>>55804932

>>55804932

>>55804932

>> No.55804943

>>55804849
I think the idea is if they come out strong in those conditions, then the kid is probably a good candidate.

>> No.55804949

>>55804899
It's not inherently.
We've seen this happen before at other companies. So we know the broad strokes.
I truly hope GW can stop sliding but I won't be surprised if it all goes to shit.

>> No.55804958

>>55804807
>tzeentch
>god of magic
>black follower of the god of magic
>a "magical negro" if you will

>>55804909
>khorne
>god of violence
>black followers of the god of violence
>black people are violent

Such diversity, yet such problematic...

>> No.55804967

>>55804910
No, about 16 is the oldest.

>> No.55804969

>>55804922
>>55804938
Why have you brought this upon us?

>> No.55804999

>>55804825
give gauss something
buff destroyers
drop point costs

>> No.55805023

>>55803720
> sneaky Johnny in the corner
You win

>> No.55805029 [DELETED] 

>>55804938
>New thread on page 4
Try again newfag

>> No.55805034

>>55803506
>Vandire changed that to "Brides of the Emperor" but also proceeded to use them as fucktoys among other things.
Fucking alpha

>> No.55805077

>>55803631
Right? The customization of Commanders and Crisis is one of my favorite things about Tau.

Now I just want them to include some more support systems that aren't variations of "shoot better", since those are usually mathematically inferior to bringing another gun. Also, make Plasma Rifles D2.

>> No.55805092

>>55803661
I-I'm just looking for a good FLGS is all...

>> No.55805131

>>55805034
Chad Vandire vs Virgin Girlyman

>> No.55805148

>>55803774
Ghaz needs a new proppa model like yesterday

>> No.55805163

>>55803836
Sister (male)

>> No.55805174

>>55803889
Aw yeah gimme dem pinup kroot

>> No.55805206
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>>55805163
That's kind of hot

>> No.55805218

>>55804017
It's a shame the game was ass, because ME3MP was godlike.

>> No.55805220

>>55804491
> two fully painted armies
Why are the anon's at my local shop such lazy pieces of shit.

>> No.55805291

>>55805218
Yes it was, hence why Andromeda was even more of a let down. With more time and money there could have been something good in there. And if they stripped out all the Mass Effect stuff and just had it a separate IP. Too much baggage from ME left it with too high expectations and lineages.

>> No.55805299

>>55804367
M A L E F I C
A
L
E
F
I
C

>> No.55805328

>>55804807
AIIAIAAAAIAAAA

>> No.55805412

>>55804607
>Eldar player whines about cost-effectiveness ratio of what used to be a sub-300-point superheavy

Christ, 8th edition gets my dick hard.

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>>55804658
They're not impossible to find -ahem- everywhere.

>> No.55805487

I'm just gunna fuck off until /v/ and /pol/ go and fucking stay go. This shit has been going on for weeks and now we have a general that has an unbeleivably high amount of fucking people bitching about Mass Effect for Christ's sake. Fuck all of you.

>> No.55805518

>>55805487
They'll never go.
The culture war has arrived and all the combatants are immortal.

>> No.55805544

>>55805487
don't come back

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>>55805487
Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.

>> No.55806257

The Farsight Enclaves supplement from 2013 has pictures of the new crisis suit models that were released last year or whenever those models came out.

>> No.55806884

>>55804457

Wait... this seriously what you get in the box? Neat. Just starting up a Black Legion force so this is good.

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>>55804607
I was against a squad of three of these fuckers. They tanked 2X Rounds of double firing leman russ battle canons and 2x manticore shots before I killed all 3. fucking beastly-- and I wasnt rolling poorly

>> No.55807183

How can you make the best use of the LR prometheus?

It seems anything that is decent is 1CP, and orbital bombardment requires the warlord to be out of the LR

>> No.55807282

>>55804463
What if you think it's fine as long as they're isn't a physical difference between male and female space marines besides whether they have a dick or a vag?

>> No.55807535

>>55806257

Fucking.... WHAT?

>> No.55807658

>>55805163
>tfw never get wrongly assigned to a training convent and become completely the Emperor's in body and soul

>> No.55807898

What is the best vehicle to put sergeant chronus in?

I Have a razorback, any type of land raider, a hunter, and a vindicator

>> No.55807969

>>55803100
How about some fucking armor upgrades that have existed since 3rd edition?

Seriously, carapace commanders and vets should not be this difficult

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>>55807969
>the only IG armor option, including for Vostroyan, is for ogryn
>it is simply called "Bullgryn plate"

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