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No fluff discussion allowed edition.

>Graia is put into the spotlight, but Mars is a hard act to follow.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/09/12/forge-world-focus-graia-sep-12gw-homepage-post-4/


>After weeks of a rigged campaign, Imperials win it.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/09/11/the-fate-of-konor-imperial-victory/

>top 5 squigs
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/09/05/celebrate-30-years-of-warhammer-40000-top-5-squigsgw-homepage-post-3/

>GW FAQs (1.1):
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Rules-Errata
>FW FAQ (1.1):
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/07/15/new-and-updated-forge-world-faqs-july16gw-homepage-post-2/

>Rules and such. Use Readium on pc/iphone, lithium/kobo on android:
>Everything 8th edition in properly converted pdf & epub, fully bookmarked and linked with in-line errata annotations
https://mega.nz/#F!bF0ExS4D!_XaMECn0K9HiJKUFSopJLA

>Other Megas
https://mega.nz/#F!64wmnBZR!rWcm37EkOOeToeueqhPjpA
https://mega.nz/#F!BxI1HSgI!0tKymKh9RZTzGpgIA5EyCg
https://mega.nz/#F!9NchGZyZ!-V1LhJALxDp9Tw97WzEQGA
https://mega.nz/#F!pFgm0RKR!J06C1gVYcjzNGsF8YNLsjQ
>WIP Math-hammer doc (Thanks Chart-Anon!)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1h0hk_IdJ7fivDEjMiIpKM5yMMB8HTm64lZHuKdLZCIU/edit?usp=sharing

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>>55359280
>Tumblr
>Bolter & Chainsword

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>>55359280
nth for skitarii doing necron things

>> No.55359634

>>55359341
I just find it funny that GW and B&C power armour have many curious similarities

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Fourth for the future kings of the Imperium.

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55359899

Does anyone know the deal with Khorne Berserker's Blood for the Blood God! Rule?

If they charge does it go KB/Enemy/KB or KB/KB/Enemy?

And if they're charged I assume it goes Enemy/KB/KB

>> No.55361005

How are necrons competitively right now?

>> No.55361131

So very flavorless and bland

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>>55359716
>filename

dats not roight

>> No.55361175

Is Graia the Forgeworld in the Space Marine video game? I thought the name seemed familiar.

>> No.55361194
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Alpha Legion to fuck with my friend who plays Harlies (no invul save for you!) or Iron Warriors because they have way better colors and a 1000x better chance of actually getting updated?

>> No.55361297

>>55359899

Zerkers/Zerkers/Enemy on the charge, Enemy/Zerkers/Zerkers when charged. They basically get to double swing, the only time it gets odd is if the zerkers are in combat for more than a turn. You can then activate your zerkers to fight, then your opponent picks their unit, then you can either reactivate the same squad, or move to a different unit and circle back to the zerkers whenever. Kind of a rare thing though, because they cleave through units pretty quick.

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>>55361175
It is. You would think it would be a hassle to get that shithole running again.

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Working on a vehicle heavy Imperial Fist list; how does this look for 2,500 points? Trying to add lots of anti TEQ and AT weaponry.

>> No.55361393

>That feeling when I'm gonna wait ages for angron
>That feeling when I get the best daemon primarch between now and then anyway

Who here hyped for fulgrim?

>> No.55361878

> SM don't have any HQ options that can take two pistols of any choice in 8th Ed
> Squad Sergeants can still take two pistols of any choice

I'm extremely salty that I can't use two of the three dual-wielding Inferno Pistol models in my BA army and I doubt the BA codex will be much more that a copy-paste of C:SM. Why the hell does GW hate HQ gunslingers this edition?

>> No.55361922

>>55359716
Why can no one get her hair color right?

>> No.55362386

>>55361194
>(no invul save for you!)
Explain yourself

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>>55359716

>> No.55362776

Which codexes will release in October?

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>>55362401
nice

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I sure hope gw buffs snipers now that herohammer is in full swing.

>> No.55363075

>>55359716
look at his tiny hands

>> No.55363084

>>55363075
literally DRUMPF

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What would be the easiest way to recreate this exact army on the tabletop?

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How would you make a 500 point, Guard centric, list from these minis? Besides more guardsmen, what should I buy next?

1 Lord Commissar
1 Commissar
1 Priest
1 Master of Ordance
1 Company Commander
1 Platoon Commander with power fist
1 Sniper Guardsman
1 Plasma gun Guardsman
1 Medi-pack Guardsman
1 Leman Russ
1 Chimera
1 Sergeant with powersword, plasma pistol
2 Sergeants with chainswords, laspistols
2 Banners
2 Meltagun Guardsmen
2 Grenade Launcher Guardsmen
3 Guardsmen with Voxcaster
5 Scions, 1 flamer, sergeant with powersword, plasma pistol
15 Guardsmen
Dark Vengeance

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It's ironic that Chaos players reflect how Chaos are in the fluff, they get cucked multiple times by the superior imperium but instead of reflecting on their mistakes and humbly learning to be better they endlessly whinge and moan that the game is rigged against them, even when they're gifted numerous shiny new toys, and as a result unsurprisingly lose over and over again.

>> No.55363885

I'm trying to make a SM army focused on infantry aura buffing, so far I am using:

Pedro Kantor
Rhino Primaris
Primaris Ancient
2x Primaris Lts
Apothecary

Along with 2 scout squads, a tac squad, and a devastator squad.

Are there any other good buffing things I should look for ?

>> No.55363899

>>55361005
poor. at sub 1000pts they dominate since it's all troop vs troops, but as soon as the point barrier breaks above, their slow speed becomes a major issue.

>> No.55364013

>>55363885

A Captain to reroll 1's or does Kantor do that?

>> No.55364069

So with new dg codex is it better to use lots of plague marines or blightlord termies as your standard unit?

>> No.55364086

>>55363831
chaos could have won 90% of games in konor and probably still lost

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I like the sound of Orkamungus.

>> No.55364113

>>55364086
You are exaggerating but imp vs imp games and shit were absurd. Seriously poorly planned by gw if they believed it was a reasonable premise. Even imperium vs everyone else would barely be fair.

>> No.55364148

Just finished Blood Reaver.

Good book.

RIP: Maruc, Hound, Covenant of Blood andVandred.

>> No.55364153

>>55364113
In the grim darkness of the 41st millenium, wars are won by teamkilling your own dudes to generate points.

The imperium is secretly run by khorne.

>> No.55364162

>>55364153
Pretty fuckin grim

>> No.55364163

>>55364148
One thing that bugged me was: The Night Lords were constantly shrugging. I just don't buy it with their massive power armour.

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>>55363831
0/10

>> No.55364177

/40kg/
What is your faction and why do you like it?

Hard Mode: Don't shit-talk people for their faction/reason.

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Any fellow europoors that have gotten chessex dice? Looking to get some custom dice but cant find a good manufacturer in yurop and chessex doesn't tell you how much the shipping is
I don't wanna end up paying 50 moneys for shipping 25 dice overseas

>> No.55364192

>>55364177
I just started collecting around 2-3 months ago. Went with Death Guard since they were in the start collecting set for 8th.

Always liked Chaos so DG were a cool choice.

>> No.55364202

>>55364177
Chaos. I like the variety, and being able to experiment with new paint schemes is nice.

>> No.55364220

>>55364177
Orks, you can do whatever you want with schemes and army builds and generally dont need to give a shit about anything other than fun

>> No.55364232

>>55359280
Why does the Path of The Incubus novel in the mega have lines missing/unfinished sentences? Does anyone have an alternate download?

>> No.55364236

>>55364086
>>55364113
>chaoscucks are actually this fucking deluded
kek my sides off, even with GW rigging planets for you you couldn't win
eat shit

>> No.55364242

>>55364177
Another new DG player here. Always liked Nurgle and was waiting for 40k to get updated, so here we are.

>> No.55364247

>>55364220
are ork armies really versatile? I was thinking about building one in a few months

>> No.55364251

Do we have points for the death guard codex yet?

>> No.55364253
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>>55364013
Kantor lets you re-roll all to hit rolls for fists. He's a based man's Girlyman.

>> No.55364258

>>55364247
neckburgers on here will try to tell you that the only possible build is green tide, but I've seen plenty of different ork builds do just fine in 8th
I'm working on a shooty/mechanized list myself at the moment
And even if the dice dont work out and I lose, I'll have a fun looking army

>> No.55364260

>>55364148

I love the plot being
>Yo Abby wabby needs our help
>No
>yes
>no
>too bad
>fuck
>fuck
>Hey let's steal that
>what could go wrong?
>FUCK
>The End

>> No.55364265

>>55359280
I never noticed that primaris rockin that Pulse Rifle in the back before

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>>55364253

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>>55361393
if it makes you feel any better daemon Angron had rules in 5th apoc. he had a bodyguard of 1-12 bloodthristers

>>55364177
daemons and spiky marines for conversions and straight up evil. like kicking puppies, stealing choppas from orks, and taunting loyalists for fun. eldar for haughty elves with big guns also to directly contrast to my daemons

...is it bad that i wanna sell off my eldar after completing them because i've grown bored of them, almost finished them and i want to start a skaven army

>> No.55364314

>>55364253
Yes, kantor is bae

Why I am trying to make an army based around him

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>>55364314
>>55364253
>Space Spics

>> No.55364361

>>55364236

'eres yer (yoo)

>> No.55364366

What are you working on lately anons?

>> No.55364383

Any underrated units that are worth checking out for eldar?

currently playing transport heavy iyanden craftworlders (fuck that ynnari bullshit) and thinking about branching out into some aspect warriors.

stuff that can run without transports would be interesting, I have an ancient metal asurmen somewhere and don't grabbing some dire avenger boxes.

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>>55364366
I'm hopin to get this guardsman done this month.

>> No.55364390

>>55364383
don't mind

>> No.55364394

>>55364387
McDonalds Marines?

>> No.55364396

>>55364366
My dauntingly large, fully assembled but unpainted army.

I wanted to play, but I didn't want to wait until everything was painted. Now it's a bitch and a half to get it done right.

>> No.55364399

where is the DG codex scans/epub
I needs it

>> No.55364407

>>55364366
My second set of 20 poxwalkers. Taking longer than I thought it would.

Gonna work on some Plague Marines after and Mortarion soon after.

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>>55364366

Nigel Leviathan Dreadnought

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>>55364394

>> No.55364413

>>55361354
No it's not

>> No.55364422

>>55364366
I'm almost done with the second member of my first GK strike squad. Holy shit the shoulderpad heraldry is a bitch to paint.

>> No.55364428

>>55364411
Holy shit that flash is atrocious. Chinaman?

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>>55364177
AdMech
I generally like machine worshipers in fiction and I like their dirty, industrial aesthetic as opposed to a clean, high-tech look. I also love the way Skitarii weapons look with their "high tech black powder" look.

>> No.55364433

>>55364177
Orks right now, with a hope to make Adeptus Custards and use Kharadron as counts as AdMech

>> No.55364441

I am going to start an ork army soon.
Help me decide what clan my orks will be, anons

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>>55364394
I have to very carefully make sure I have more yellow than red or else it looks REAL mcdonaldsy.

>> No.55364443

>>55364428
The cheapest of the chinamen,

It's all a WIP, held together with bluetack and semen

>> No.55364446

>>55364411
>chinkcast
>double bombard cancer
please go and stay go
I like the dome helmet

>> No.55364452

>>55364411
Smashing.

>> No.55364457

>>55364411
>double bombard
>chinkcast
>cheese guard
WAACimus maximus

>> No.55364458

>>55364441
Badmoons are the coolest anon.

>> No.55364464

>>55364441
SPEEEEEED

>> No.55364466

>>55364394
That's not a marine you double retard.

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>>55364366
Working on a squad of Boyz, not the greatest at painting but I try and do quick and presentable. And yes I know the choppa is messy, I don't know how to fix that really.

>> No.55364475

>>55364446
>>55364457
conscriptfags on suicide watch

>> No.55364476

>>55364443
Agh, man, I'd clean that the fuck up before even considering fielding it. Too obvious.

>> No.55364482

>>55361393
Why the fuck did morty get a model before fulgrim anyways? And why the fuck did they play up Morty as Guillimans arch nemesis when they never gave a fuck about each other back in the Horus heresy? Fulgrim already showed up in the fluff multiple times and didn't get his ass kicked by a gey knight, he deserves a model asap

>> No.55364483

>>55364411
god damn son, if you're gonna cheap out at least have the decency to fix that ugly shit.

>>55364457
he has ascended to a level beyond even that, semi-decent greenstuff work on the nurgle bits but didn't even bother to fix the obvious recast....

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>>55364446

It's gonna be a big eyeball

Also those guns are gonna be magnetised and I'll probably run it with bombard and drill. I only have one mate I'd consider running double on.

I stopped buying (real) Forgeworld when my local GW banned it on the table.

>>55364452
Ty men

>> No.55364486

>>55364457
>cheese guard
when did that happen

>> No.55364487

>>55364475
>implying I own conscripts
>implying I play anything imperial
>implying I don't just dislike the most boring options available

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>>55364366
Staring at my chaos marines, trying to find the willpower to finish the last of them before moving on.
>no games

>> No.55364496

>>55364474
Looks presentable, Goffs right? Next time try highlighting your base color, also paint a black dot for the barrel of the shoota.

>> No.55364502

>>55364485
your local GW manager can get fired for doing so. report them if you find it that troubling, but be prepared to roll the dice, you might get a shitter for the new one. (not that I advocate it, but blanket banning forgeworld is a shitty practice that takes fun away because of a few edge cases that should be handled between players)

>> No.55364508

>>55364502

Not down under, they're allowed to do as they see fit.

>> No.55364511

>>55364486
Have you not seen the new DG rules? Shit is beyond OP.

>> No.55364515

>>55364496
fuck black dots, drill a barrel

>> No.55364519

>>55364265
they're not Primaris, its fanart of an alt timeline where the ultramar seceeds and develops new tech and power armour based on tau tech.

>> No.55364521
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Broken as fuck.

>> No.55364530

>>55364521
It's powerful but pretty situational.

>> No.55364532

>>55364502
NO, fuck forgeworld. Me and my friends advocated for its bannings in various stores on more than one occasion.
It's literally nothing but WAAC shit that costs too much for poorer players to pick up, it's not even GW, it's an offshoot.

>> No.55364536

>>55364508
time to find a less shitty LGS then that prioritizes letting people have their own fun instead of labeling "badwrongfun"

>> No.55364538

>>55364521

It is was allowed for heavy weapons, THEN it'd be a problem. AdM don't have too many assault and rapid fire weapons to worry about.

>> No.55364543

>>55364521
They also can't fall back without a character around, but I guess at with that trait you may not need to.

>tfw too rational

>> No.55364544

>>55364532
And so the shitposting begins.

>> No.55364546

>>55364383
shining spears

>>55364366
sonic dreadnought. double blastmaster is done (really it's a single due to how i forgot what i was making and i can't be bothered to make it a double right now). giving him a pipe organ mohawk to work as a doom siren

>> No.55364551

>>55364441
Snakebites.

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>>55364521
tyranids on suicide watch

>> No.55364557

>>55364532
Anon, even land raider and rhino doors?

>> No.55364560

>>55364521
Nope.

>> No.55364563

>>55364536

I just play with my friends at their place. All the LGSs kinda suck

>> No.55364565

>>55364557
especially the doors

>> No.55364566

>>55364532
so don't play games against people that use FW units? or better yet politely ask them not to use it in games against you?

there is an option that doesn't involve being a mongoloid cunt that doesn't mess with the fun of others you know.

>> No.55364575

>>55364532
you again
havent you been laughed out of here enough times already

>> No.55364583

>>55364566
That's offensive to asians. Not even they are autistic enough to sperg out when someone uses toys that are more expensive than theirs.

>> No.55364606

>>55364511
It doesn't look like that anon has suddenly jumped on the bandwagon

besides, /tg/ says that about every codex

>> No.55364610

>>55363021
Nigga dats gay

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>>55363831

>> No.55364630

>>55364583
fair

>> No.55364632

>>55364441
Goffs are cool dudes.

>> No.55364636

>>55364443
>and semen
>not slaanesh

You had one job.

>> No.55364646

>>55364441
Theres no wrong answer, but Deathskulls and Bad Moons are the ones for me

>> No.55364647

>>55364606
The DG codex makes all the others so far look like a bad joke. I have no idea how any of the other factions can hope to compete with the absurdity of how powerful the shit in there is.

>> No.55364648

>>55364583
>Kim Jong Un

Let's not go crazy, here.

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>>55364411
>>55364446
>>55364457
>>55364476
>>55364483

A note to all the friends commenting, this is mostly just a fun project. I don't really own many DG models, just the starter and wanted to try something a bit more unique. The bombards look cool, but I have a siege drill to keep games from being a mess.

Some of the slip I'm yet to get, some of the filled in details I'm going to remove or conceal. There is slip on the arse end too. I know it's there.

Its just a fun project is all. I promise I'll bring you all pictures when he's done.

>> No.55364655

>>55364566
Unless you make it clear that forgeworld is illegal people will try and sneak it in.
Besides, it cuts in to store profits and if you don't support your store 100% you shouldn't be allowed to play, banning forgeworld is better than banning players who use forgeworld.

>> No.55364663

>>55364650
in that case, I look forward to seeing the finished work, and hope it comes out looking as clean as the current GS works.
nurgle symbol on the shoulder plate is pretty good.

>> No.55364674

>>55364655
What country are you from?

In america the use of forgeworld is largely condoned, especially in the tournament scene. thanks in part to the ITS.

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>>55364441
Gene Stealer Cults

>> No.55364682

>>55364655
You can support your store and have fw anon. It's nice to support them, but I've never ran into a dude who will turn somebody away from utilizing the space because they don't patronize the establishment literally 100%.

Think like an adult.

>> No.55364683

>>55364648
>implying kim jong bing bong's autism doesn't stem from the fact that he's a spoilt commie brat

>> No.55364686

>>55364655
you really are a special kind of wanker, aren't you?

forge world makes stuff that most often are used as centerpeices or that cannot be bought/converted/etc from existing plastic. Just because they spend $$$ there doesn't mean they would have spend those same $$$ in the shop on something else. Its a classic economic fallacy.

its a shame you play with such a group of shitters that people try and cheat against the rules you have arranged to play with, or are you just such a cunt they don't care?

>> No.55364689

Dubs names my white scars primaris successor. Chapter logo concepts will ensue from successful attempts.

>> No.55364692

>>55364663
Ty, I haven't done much GS stuff before so we're learning here.

The trick with chinacast issues is knowing what the paint will and won't cover. I've some pretty harsh lights for my workspace and an unflattering camera, most of the things that come up on the big screen aren't nearly as easy to see with the naked eye.

The big question mark for me is what to do about the field projectors at the front. I am thinking I will add to some of them with some GS and paint them with the same fleshy colours as the rest of the GS scabby bits.

>> No.55364695

>>55364689
Hell's Angels

>> No.55364697

>>55364521
My Tau breachers want it.

>> No.55364698

>>55364655
>if you don't support your store 100% you shouldn't be allowed to play
More like just most of your current purchases should come from the store. I've seen no-one bitch about someone bringing some models they brought from somewhere else into the store and they probably wouldn't last long if they did. Hell, everyone, but you apparently, has some units they traded with a friend for or impulse brought from wherever.

>> No.55364717

>>55364674

Australia; our pricepoint, proximity to china and and current management at Aus gw HQ have lead to a lot of store managers feeling ultra competative and ruthless in the sales area. Almost all our stores are one man affairs.

From what I know, many managers constantly feel like there is the threat of being closed down if they don't meet their sales targets and stuff.

>> No.55364721

>>55364689
The King Nigger Jews

>> No.55364723

>>55364689
Turbo Lovers

>> No.55364728

>>55364683
>communist
Just no.

Communist is a system that helps the oppressed classes against exploitation, North Korea is in no way real communism.

>> No.55364730
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>>55364689
The Golden Hawks.

>> No.55364734

>>55364689
Green Bastards

>> No.55364736

>>55364728
Anon stop while the thread is young, we're not even halfway to the bump limit. Discuss politics elsewhere, and don't kill the thread.

>> No.55364741

>>55364728
>not real gommunism
Protip: you judge something based on intent, not on the outcome. Just because communism is a shit system that never works doesn't mean that every attempt at it doesn't count.
>this isn't a real space marine because i painted it shittily

>> No.55364744

>>55364689
Green Snails

>> No.55364748
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55364748

>>55364689
Eagles Exemplar

>> No.55364749

>>55364744
Unfortunate.

>> No.55364755

>>55364443
which chinaman? Was considering using sylvia white

>> No.55364757

>>55364689
Falcons Ascendant

(trying not to give you a shitty one)

<iframe width="1231" height="699" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/el93MIxAf-c" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

>> No.55364758
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55364758

>>55364744
Perfect

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>>55364757
unfucked link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=el93MIxAf-c

>> No.55364773

>>55364538
The majority of AdMech infantry weapons are assault and rapid fire. Plasma Caliver squads will be even more fun.

Now that I think about it it'll also be a minor but nice thing on dragoons taking phosphor serpentas. Not a huge thing but they have a reasonable chance of surviving to combat long enough to make use of it and an extra "attack" doesn't hurt.

>> No.55364777

>>55364755
This was a sale one from Z, I paid 24usd total for that.

No experience with Silvia, I hear she's good.

>> No.55364782

>>55364466
How do you know that you idiot ? You think the imperial navy doesn't have some troops onboard ?

>> No.55364791

>>55364782
Imperial Navy troops are called Naval Armsmen.

>> No.55364794

>>55364717
Maybe they should blame their woes on GW's price gouging, instead of taking it out on the players who just want to run some cool models.

>> No.55364800
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>>55364744

>> No.55364806

>>55364351
Hell I am almost willing to go full "suffragium por pedro" on the chapter banner

>> No.55364809

>>55364519
>Space Marines
>using pulse rifle technology

Fucking why. Bolters are objectively superior.

>> No.55364812

>>55364800
do they make inordinate use of landraiders and other slower, heavier transports? would be pretty fitting.

could even do the classic white with the green taking the place of the red.

>> No.55364821

>>55364647
Not really?

>> No.55364822

>>55364812
I think we might do this anons. And it would be repulsors due to my primaris goying.

>> No.55364827

>>55364791
It's still not wrong to assume that some could be called "marines"

>> No.55364829

>>55364822
well, unlike standard marines, the only thing that can't fit in repulsors is inceptors.

few inceptors as scouts and then fully mech the rest? would make for a fairly ugly game of "what's in the box" for the opponent

>> No.55364842

>>55364697
Something like that would really be nasty
Maybe the tenacious fire warriors sept will have that rule.

>> No.55364844

>>55364655
Ban non GW paints, tools, and your mom

>> No.55364862

>>55364655
You realize forge world is a subsidiary of games workshop, right, you dumb fuck?

>> No.55364867

What are the cheapest main factions? No specific composition

>> No.55364891

>>55364867
Grey Knights, Marines in general

>> No.55364909
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>>55364812
Here was the originally concepted scheme, not grossly divergent. The intent was to have more flame motifs, checks, and of course thunderbolts. I was looking for green detailing and the snail shell in the logo may do better than the laurels I was planning. We'll see.

>> No.55364922

Enginseers are now HQ in the new AM book.
So they have 3 now.

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>>55364812
>>55364909
>the original inspiriration for a slightly divergent white scheme

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>>55364186
pls respond

>> No.55364943

>>55364867
Grey knights require the least purchases to make a decent sized army that can be effective, by a significant margin.

After that, probably necrons if going for a decent mix since the start collecting for them isn't terrible. And I guess imperial knights are comparatively cheap since you only need 3-4

>> No.55364948

>>55364922
>tfw still no Alpha Primus HQ
It's just one goddamn model GW

>> No.55364956

>>55364186
Email them and ask, it varies with amount of dice.
Chessex is a very old fashioned buisness that way.

>> No.55364962

>>55364922
Wheres that info from?

>> No.55364964

>>55364891
>>55364943
GKs seems to be a good answer. Good to keep in mind for a secondary army that isn't pricey.
For completeness sake. What major faction is pricey pricey?

>> No.55364973

>>55364962
GW posted it on Facebook. Someone asked about new HQs and GW responded by saying Enginseers were moved to the HQ slot.

>> No.55364976

>>55364964
Every swarm faction ever

>> No.55364978

>>55364964

Anything horde. Orks are definitely up there.

>> No.55364981

>>55364964
Guard. The options are so interchangeable that you'll never be done. And unlike Tyranids there is no good swarm box to be found for discount bodies

>> No.55364985

>>55364976
>>55364978
It's almost like you didn't get several hundred troop units when people were selling their armies cheap

>> No.55365000

>>55364985

Well for the sake of the question, I thought we where assuming you're just buying it all new.

Really you could say any faction could be the cheapest if you found an army while dumpster diving.

>> No.55365007

Is their a way to do mechanised armoured orks with nobz and shit? I've always liked the idea of armoured orks smashing through and coming out with power claws and shit

>> No.55365014

>>55364964
Possibly anything depending on options; obviously hordes but some factions also have smaller kits that are damn expensive.

>> No.55365023

>>55364964
Flames of War Russians early war

>> No.55365035

>>55365014
Like Tau? The standalone Crisis are pretty pricey compared to start boxes

>> No.55365038

>>55365007
You can do it, but it's not optimal, Orks really can't out-elite anyone but maybe guardmen.

Raw numbers and armies weighted heavily in a single area is their strength.

>> No.55365039

>>55365007
yes, you buy the models and make an army list with them in it
you'll need to know how to read, though

>> No.55365061

>>55365023
mah nigga

>> No.55365079

>>55365035
Yeah, a lot of biker units are pricey for their points too

>> No.55365082

>>55364964
>What major faction is pricey pricey?

Imperial guard

>> No.55365090
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55365090

Finished up some Sisters of Silence models I'm gonna run as Canoness' and a Vindicare in my SoS/Custode army.

What are you working on?

>> No.55365105

>>55365090
you've ruined a perfectly good Veridyan
this brings me sadness

>> No.55365120

>>55365090
I hope the Canoness was a recast
Otherwise, looks pretty neato

>> No.55365121

>>55365105
More like he made her better. She was terrible before

>> No.55365132

>>55364679
Not the guy asking, but I've thought of using my left over nid bits to custom up a few special cultist orks. Enough carnifex parts and greenstuff could make a proper culty warboss. I'd probably have to focus on kommandos to make it sorta fluffy.

>> No.55365142

>>55365090
That helmeted Sister is the first SoS model I've ever liked the look of.

>> No.55365159

>>55365121
what a cruel joke to make
she is one of GW's best recent sculpts

>> No.55365179
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55365179

Will Salamanders get unique powers for their Librarians again in the future? Or am I just stuck using the Librarius Discipline?

>> No.55365195

>>55365179
yes

>> No.55365199

>>55365179
No
Why would they?

>> No.55365201

>>55365179
>Will Salamanders get unique powers for their Librarians again in the future?
Unlikely, unless they do something like that in Chapter Approved. Only other way would be if closer to 8th's shelf life they pad it out with little Codexs like that.

>> No.55365210

>>55365195
>>55365199
>>55365201
>do not ask the xenos eldar a question, they will give you three answers, each of them true and terrifying to know

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>>55365090
I have seen the void and it sees me

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>>55365201
post yfw Chapter Approved gives every Chapter, Legion, Craftworld, and Hive Fleet a unique psychic power

>> No.55365243

>>55364258
Would you mind sharing your list so far? I'm thinking of jumping on the Ork ship and a less Tide dependent army is what I'm after.

>> No.55365251

>>55364521
Mars is still better overall.

>> No.55365252

Does anyone have any experience with Necron weapons?

Building my first army and I've got no idea what I should take for immortals/stalkers.

I've heard Tesla is brutal and the Heavy Gauss on the stalker is a good middle spot, but any other things I should know?

>> No.55365267

>>55365234
While I wouldn't hate it, its very low on my list of things in the Chapter Approved wishlist

>> No.55365273

I believe I was misremembering. They could use the Pyromancy Discipline in 7th edition right?

>> No.55365282

>>55365273
The Salamanders that is.

>> No.55365283

>>55361878
Reminder that devastated sergeants can take 3 bolt pistols

>> No.55365290

>>55365252
One advantage of tesla is the extra hits on 6+ and one HQ character (is it the cryptek? I'm not sure) that can give 1 unit/turn +1 on hit rolls.
Played a game against that in my LGS, my infantry got shred to pieces

>> No.55365307

>>55365283
>devastated sergeants

sad marines when

>> No.55365314

>>55365290
All of the Lord type HQ's give +1 to Hit, Advance and Charge at the start of each turn.

>> No.55365317

>>55365234
I have to wonder if we're actually getting any new content in CA or if it'll just be rules updates this year.

>> No.55365334
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55365334

These are the BL authors that will be in the upcoming BL weekender.

Fuck one, marry one, kill the rest

>> No.55365337

>Miniwargaming put up videos about the painting services they used
>One is extremely basic tabletop standard
>The other is actual dogshit

>> No.55365339

>>55364519
I play Tau and I like Ultramarines as a chapter but even I think that's fucking dumb

>> No.55365346

>>55365317
they've already specifically said there wil be.
They've also mentioned bringing the custom vehicle rules back (at least for landraiders).

>> No.55365347

>>55365334
Fuck and marry Abnett, kill everyone else.

>> No.55365355

>>55365337
>Miniwargaming
>actual dogshit
No really?!

>> No.55365357

>>55365347
Nah, fuck Phil kelly, kill everyone else

>> No.55365372 [DELETED] 

>>55365347
>>>/lgbt/ is the other way Carnac

>> No.55365373

>>55365346
I saw where they mentioned testing custom vehicle rules but where have they specifically mentioned other content updates?

>> No.55365375

>>55365334
chris dows looks like he's trying to sell me 1 easy tip for ripped abs

>> No.55365376
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>>55365243
well, so far I've got Flash Gitz and Lootas for shooting, going to invest in some battlewagons and trukks and more flash gitz and lootas once I'm done with the ones I have. Oh and convert tankbustas out of the leftover burnas and assorted rokkit bits left over from the loota boxes and other stuff
Idea is to put Flash Gitz and shoota boyz in vehicles, dakka dakka, Lootas won't get in for the ride because the Deffgun has such a long range I can pretty much leave them at deployment
I'll need something like gretchin or cheap small boy units to cover my ass from deep strikes but I'm still working on figuring out what
The Gorkanaut is supposedly OK, but I don't see myself investing in one any time soon
Maybe I could put a warboss and nobz in it since I have one of those Gruk's Boss Mob kits lying around. Nobz in a Naut

>> No.55365377

>>55365337
>Not a single highlighted surface on the skitarii

I dunno how he did it, but the mould lines are actually way more visible than any I've ever seen

>> No.55365381

>>55365346
I'm totally making a Sonic Land Raider for my Emperor's Children and no one can stop me.

>> No.55365383

>>55365334
>Gordon Rennie not an option
FTFY

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55365392

Do I buy them?

>> No.55365399

>>55364366
Fucking nothing. Power has been off for three days.

>> No.55365401

>>55365392
Do you want qt3.14 nurgling with smegma-stick™?

>> No.55365402

>>55365392
If you have more money than sense

>> No.55365403

>>55364496
I did highlight with Eshin Grey, but you can't really see it on the model, unfortunately.

>> No.55365406

>>55365392
Do you have diposable funds and sufficient desire?

>> No.55365413

>>55365402
He's on /40kg/

>> No.55365414

>>55365373
the very first mention of CA coming back I'm pretty sure.

>> No.55365418

>>55365392
If you're into limited edition shit, sure.

>> No.55365419

>>55365392
>paying a premium for 3 monpose infantry
yeah man what would possibly go wrong?

>> No.55365423

>>55363145
Start off with buying the miniatures.

>> No.55365425

>>55365381
I was thinking of nurgle raider for my blightlord termies but what would I even put on it? Blight launchers? Entropy cannons are basically lascannons and the other stuff is all flamer range.

>> No.55365426

>>55365381
that's alright. I'll bring my DA custom raider with hurricane plasmaguns.

>> No.55365433

>>55365392
If you've got the money to spare and you like them, sure.

>> No.55365434

>>55365425
Fleshmower land raider! Im a genius!

>> No.55365437

>>55365414
The first mention of CA coming back just says "We’ve said right from the start that the new edition of Warhammer 40,000 is one that we’d work to make even better over time. This is one of the ways that will happen. Each year, you’ll have a new Chapter Approved, expanding your gaming options and making what we think is already the best Warhammer 40,000 ever, even better."
No mention of new content this year. The last mention of CA they just mentioned new missions and testing the custom vehicle rules.

>> No.55365451

>>55365290
>>55365314
I was wrong, I just checked the index. Crypteks give +1 to reanimation protocols
The +1 to hit is from overlords (and named overlords)

>> No.55365457

>>55365425
Cool man.
I'm totally going to put the Chassis from a Seeker Chariot and strap it to the front of my Sonic Land Raider though.
Bring back Dirge Caster to deny Overwatch within 6", I loved that thing.
>>55365426
You do that man, I'm sure there'll be a points value thing on how to do it.

>> No.55365459

>>55365437
"expanding our gaming options" and new missions is new content.

>> No.55365460
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>>55364177
>Tyranids
Space Dinosaurs with a consistent, sick looking aesthetic. I dont think there's much more too it. I guess I also like the whole "Natue Incarnate/Perfect Predator" thing, which is pretty cool.

>Grey Knights
My favourite Terminators in the entire game, and I like the whole "elite hero's fighting the neverending darkness, even though they know they can never win" thing. Also, I enjoy them because their playstyle is so different from nids as is their paintscheme.

>Mantis Warriors
Actually only just starting them up (have 3 bikes, a captain, a Razorback and half a tacsquad). Mainly started them because
A. I wanted a space marine bike army, and
B., because I find Ravenwing/White Scars look kinda boring I looked for a cool scheme and really dig the Green-Yellow. Also, Ninjas in Space are pretty cool.

>> No.55365465

>>55365243

Dread Mob is more viable than Mechanized, and either is miles better than Speed Freaks.

However "more viable" isn't the same as "viable"; Dread Mob suffers badly against armies with a fair amount of AT. Dreads are massively overcosted and Morkanauts are inferiour to Gorkanauts, pretty much solely because the Gorka is better in melee thanks to 2 more attacks. The list also has virtually no shooting, which really hampers you against some lists. Overall you can expect to either win by a landslide or get absolutely and completely stomped by end of Turn 2. I've been playing my Dread Mob list on and off since 8th hit and that's been my experience.

I've also tried some Mechanized lists with stuff like Meganobz, Lootas, Flash Gitz and Tankbustas, with transports. Honestly, it's pretty terrible. Most of this stuff NEEDS transports because cover is worthless/hard to get for Orks, and contrary to what >>55365376
would have you believe, Lootas outside of a transport have zero life expectancy. Tankbustas can't do their job decently, Flash Gitz have to move to get in range which negates their better BS, plus their expensive. Meganobz are decent but only use them with Killsaws; Klaws are worthless. Tooled up Nobz with Big Choppas are actually quite decent.

Trukks and Battlewagons are both overpriced and die too easily, doubly so when Battlewagons have to stay T7 if you're shooting out of them. T7 4+ save does not last long on the battlefield.

>> No.55365469

>>55365290
With this, the rule is that on a hit roll of 6, you get 2 additional hit dice to wound with.

With the "My Will Be Done" buff from Lords, will this trigger on both 5's and 6's?

>> No.55365480

>>55365334

>No Sandy Mitchell

Why even live?

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>>55365401
>>55365402
>>55365406
>>55365418
>>55365419
>>55365433
I'm buying them.

Do I buy the dice too? Are they limited edition?

>> No.55365490

>>55365469
Yes, the modifier adds to the final dice result. So when you roll a 5 it becomes a 6 and the effect is activated.

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>>55365465
>stop liking things I don't like
even within their own NPC borders, xenosfags still fight over who's worse

>> No.55365494

>>55364519
>>55364809
>>55365339
It's an alt timeline where Dorn is the Archtraitor instead of Horus, Dornian Heresy. Ultramar fucks off and does its own thing, including stealing and combining Tau and Imp Tech to create super duper science Marines.

>> No.55365495

>>55365490
Awesome, cheers.

>> No.55365503

>>55365489
I think the limited marines suck but the dice are kinda cool. If you use a darkish wash then highlight the pus things they will look awesome.

>> No.55365508

>>55365489
The dice are actually the worst dice I have ever seen
Barely readable, and you get hardly any in the box for the price.

>> No.55365514

>>55365465
I mean, basically any Ork player who isn't doing Green Tide is on their own separate little boat together with other non-tide players

>> No.55365517

>>55365493

I've got more than 10,000 points of Orks under 7th edition. I've been collecting them for 10 years. I love the army. But the guy asked for advice. That's what I'm going to give. I'm not going to be like Reecius and claim that everything is amazing when it's not.

Now if we're talking fluff and building stuff you like, I say go for it. If the guy likes battlewagons for the aesthetic, fantastic. I ran shit from 4th to today that isn't good, but I liked the look of it. More people should do that.

>> No.55365528

>>55364177
Alpha legion
Because i unironically enjoy being a dick.

>> No.55365531

>>55364177
>Orks
Because of their aesthetics, their lore, the conversion opportunities and because they fit my style of never planning more than my next phase.

>> No.55365532
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>go into store today
>just me and store owner
>store owner is busy with MtG and can't play Warhammer
>play some MtG with him while discussing Warhammer
>order in Vostroyan Snipers from him
>tell him I plan on running Renegades & Heretics allied to my Emperor's Children
>let him know I'm using converted Vostroyans
>discuss the fluff of my new unbuilt army
>he reminds me Forge World isn't allowed in store tournaments in his store
>not because anyone who actually plays in store is a dickhead about it he just doesn't want some other dickhead to visit and ruin everyone's fun
>don't mind, continue discussing fluff
>many Russian jokes are had
>along with rahzvod/vodka jokes
>helps me name planet for my Warband
>we're the fluff nerds so we discuss fluff in general and stuff we came up with for our armies
>suggests I get the kind of tanks he won't be getting for his armies because of the fluff he's written
>discuss how my Vostroyans fell to chaos/Slaanesh and became renegades
>jokes about hard bass Noise Marines
>good day
My LGS is such a comfy little privately owned business

>> No.55365549

>>55365532
GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY

>> No.55365554
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>>55365517
>>55365465
I mean, I never claimed that the army idea is top tier, just something that I like and hope will do good, I've seen similar lists do very well. With Orks its luck of the dice more than anything.
Once the Codex rolls around I'll probably have an even better shooty mob
and if not, I don't really care, I mean if I was WAAC I'd just run boyz n boyz n boyz
Hopefully Deff Dreads get a drop in points cost because I'd like some of those and I'd have a reason to buy a couple of Start Collecting! boxes haha. I'll probably get some either way just to build and paint.

>> No.55365564
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>>55364177
Emperor's Children.
But also Slaanesh Daemons and about to start Renegades and Heretics with Slaanesh theme so Slaanesh is probably the correct answer.
I'm a narcissist, a perfectionist, and I love excessive things, the colour scheme, and the theme of Slaanesh in general, the entirety of Slaanesh suits me perfectly.
>>55365549
What?
He's not, and I wouldn't be interested if he was.

>> No.55365565

>>55365426
>hull mounted twin linked plasma cannon
>side mounted plasma storm batteries
Sign me the fuck up

>> No.55365574

>>55365554

I wish you all the best anon. I do feel a bit frustrated currently about the state of the Ork codex, but bloody hell, we've been through worse than this. Personally I refuse to run the 150+ Boyz lists even though I have the models for it, both because it's boring to play and because fuck pushing 200 models around a table.

>> No.55365575

>>55365426
>hurricane plasma
Fuck that sounds sexy

>> No.55365581
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>>55365489
>>55365392

Buy it all dude!!! You can't waste as much money as i did with this crap here.......

Well you can, if you go CE or LE codexes, and you definitely should!!!!!!!

>> No.55365593

>>55365426
>A roll of a 1 removes this model as a casualty
you know that would be the case

>> No.55365613

>>55365593
or you just don't overcharge unless you're in a kill or lose situation.

>> No.55365614

>>55365581
>he didn't get the Ultra Rare Art Codex
Plebeian

>> No.55365621

>>55365489
Nah, I wouldn't. I'm not into special dice in general but these are bad even beyond that.

>> No.55365632

>>55365613
>M41.2017
>Not activating your plasma weapons
Pff you coward, what are you, a guardsman?

>> No.55365642
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>>55364411
>>55364443
>>55364485

Interesting, looking forward to seeing the end result. Have my Heresy era DG Leviathan in solidarity.

>> No.55365646
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>>55364177
Dark Eldar. I love factions with cool armor, so a lot of 40k factions appeal to me, but Kabalite armor is one of the best. The fact that they're moustache twirling tier bad guys is also fun. I also like that they're reasonably uncommon, as it makes them more fun to play with and against; I like Marines and stuff too, but it does get a little old seeing them so often.

>> No.55365652

>>55365465
>>55365376

Awesome, thanks for the tips boyz.

>> No.55365655

>>55365642
i think you over did it with the chipping.

its oddly painful to look at, not in the ugly sort of way, but like the annoying static on tv.

>> No.55365663

>>55365652
Right on, you go and do you, don't let no-one bring you down with Green Tide-posting.

>> No.55365664

>>55365632
>risking the venerable Plasma Fury Fuckbeamer just to kill some orks.

what are you, a heretic?

>> No.55365693
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>>55365090
Sick. The snipers my fav.

>> No.55365706
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>>55365664
N-no haha why would you even ask that, haha, phew anon, dont know what you mean

>> No.55365715
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what is it
looks like aos shite

>> No.55365717

>>55365273
Wasn't pyromancy a generic discipline in 7th?

>> No.55365721

>>55365715
ALIEN PUSSY

>> No.55365731

>>55365334
fuck chris wraight
marry guy haley
kill abcd

every time I see him I forget that kyme is actually a fairly handsome dude, though

>> No.55365740

>>55365731
>Killing Abnett

>> No.55365748

>>55365334
Can I just kill them all?

>> No.55365750

>>55364806
Holy shit anon that is a good reference my sides

>> No.55365756

>>55365715
Stormcast or some Freeguild shit.

Notice purity seal under the feather.

>> No.55365759

>>55365750
Thanks for taking the time to translate it haha.

I've really had to work hard not to put it on there but I don't want to be a memelord

>> No.55365770

>>55365756
Excellent eye, Anon.

>Stormcast or Freeguild
If it's Freeguild, I'll be legitimately shocked speechless.

>> No.55365779

>>55365756
>>55365770
>return of human calvary
8) , I doubt it but a man can dream.

>> No.55365838

I have a lot of bikes from 7E and I hear UM bike armies are decent.

How should they be loaded? Shooty? Punchy?

>> No.55365878

>>55365779
>calvary
Triggered
its cavalry my man

>> No.55365901

>>55365715
Finally GW has enter the business of thematic dildos.

Wonder if they'll make genestealer ovipositor dildos

>> No.55365917

>>55365489
Wash the panels with Agrax Earthshade and then paint the foam with Nurgle's Rot. The only thing that I'm worried about is the flexibility of the foam causing the Nurgle's Rot to crack. I may have to test one. Even if that does happen, I'll still be able to add it to the crevices.

>> No.55365922
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>>55364177

>Necrons

Oldcrons specifically, because I'm a sucker for skeletal aesthetics, the black/green color scheme, shooting lightning. Also because mindless legions that threaten all life tickle my fancy for some reasons, which is also why I like the scourge.

>Chaos

I love the aesthetics of chaos as a whole, and also because I'm a fan of corrupting forces turning people into monsters. It's very interesting to me from a story perspective. I find the fact that every servant of chaos is but a slave to darkness to be rather tragic.

Honestly though, everything in 40k just pulls me in, in some way.

>> No.55365938

>>55365901
fuck off gscb

>> No.55365946

>>55365334
Kill all

>> No.55366017
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55366017

What's a fluffy HQ choice for an Emperor's Talons army that isn't Gulliman?

>> No.55366023

>>55365938
>implying marine horse dildo won't sell

>> No.55366027

>>55366017
Inquisitor is about all I can think of.

Only other contender is to run a SM Captain/Chapter Master that you've modelled as an extra fancy Custodes and just fluff it as a leader amongst their ranks.

>> No.55366036

>>55366017
Fluffy
Shield Captain, Tribune, Oblivion Knight-Centura
But they made Shield Captain a sergant.

>> No.55366054

>>55365838
IIRC
Short range shooty.
So you can shoot, charge, disengage, shoot.

>> No.55366062
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>>55364177
Hard to pick just one having 10.

Overall favorits are Tyranids. Most other factions are just some kind of humanoids with a gimmick.
Tyranids are actually really different to most other armies and I prefer playing them without the samefagging that are artefacts and special characters. They are just one organism made to devour your opponent. Soulless, emotionless monsters that want to dissolve everything about you and make it part of them. Just like chaos is corrupting everything they are destroying it and using the remains to grow and keep on destroying.
GSC is taking it even further, taking the violation and alien reproduction theme from alien but going even further.

If you really think about it Tyranids and chaos are scary on a very different level then for example the brute savagery of Orks. Just as Dark Eldar are literally all about making torture a lifestyle.
These 3 beeing my main armies it might be that I am just a sick sadist or something.

>> No.55366068
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>>55363361
Lots more guardsmen. You want bodies and as it is you can barely field 2 squads. I'd also recommend buying some SM plasma guns and converting some more plasma gunners.You can do the same with Melta guns too, but plasma is the go-to special weapon.

People swear by Conscripts as the ultimate cheap tar pit unit, so it may be worth acquiring a blob of those. Backed by a Priest and a Commissar it can be a real pain for people to deal with.

I've personally had success with a squad of veterans with as much plasma as possible riding around in a Chimera. They can jump out and delete any non-vehicle unit pretty easily and have had decent success vs HQ characters, though that largely depends on how the invul saves go. For maximum efficiency I'd stick a platoon commander in there with them to give them the Take Aim order for those sweet rerolls.

In terms of a 500pt list you could take the following plus weapon options to make a Brigade Detachment
-Company Commander
-Lord Commissar
-Command Squad
-Infantry Squad
-Infantry Squad
-Scion Squad
-Leman Russ

That's just over 400pts before options, so you should be able to bring it up to 500pts.

>> No.55366074

>>55366027
Suppose I could do a small force of Deathwatch or some equivalent so the captain isn't just fiddling his thumbs.

That or convert up an Inquisitor...what kind of Inquisitor has the power to just go "Yo give me some of the finest warriors the Imperium has ever seen" though? Is there examples of that happening before?

>> No.55366093

>>55366017
Nothing that we can get in 40k aside from Gorillaman.
in 30k we'd have stuff like Tribunes and Constantin Valdor and The Emperor of Mankind, but not in 40k
Maybe once they port the Tribune over to 40k, since Gonbongo had one with him in Dark Imperium

>> No.55366101
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>>55364177
Black Templars
Love the crusading knights in SPAAACE! motif a hell of a lot. Their whole super zealous faith and raging bezerker fluff really hits home for how I want my space marines to be. Customization is also fantastic for them as well.

>> No.55366105

>>55366074
Not really. In one of the newer books a Custodian works alongside some inquisitors in order to get to the bottom of some cult activity on Terra, though.

>> No.55366127

>>55366101
Not only that but they're also successors of Best Chapter™ and Best Primarch™

>> No.55366135

>>55366074
>That or convert up an Inquisitor...what kind of Inquisitor has the power to just go "Yo give me some of the finest warriors the Imperium has ever seen" though? Is there examples of that happening before?

Honestly, if anyone COULD pull rank or at least convince them to work alongside him it'd be a respected Inquisitor.

>> No.55366139

>>55364366
Putting a tabards and other appropriate adornments on all of my old black templar.

>> No.55366153

>>55366135
>Honestly, if anyone COULD pull rank or at least convince them to work alongside him it'd be a respected Inquisitor.
...How respected are we talking here?

>> No.55366154

>>55366017
An extremely nearsighted commisar lord.

>> No.55366170

>>55366017
Not really sure they're meant to be an army in their own right, but if you must. How about a DW Watch Captain? Pain him gold and call him kitten

>> No.55366172

>>55366153
Respected enough for people that don't necessarily have to answer even to Guilliman to want to work with them

>> No.55366176

>>55364107
>Spent 3 hours fighting the Orks on Soulstorm on their final base on hard difficulty
>Game freezes when it ends

Fuck sake, they really needed autosave.

>> No.55366184

>>55366170
his guardian spear is different
>:^(

>> No.55366199

>>55366176
I got real tired of those games once I came to the conclusion that every battle aside from final bases work the same
>spam a certain unit or two of guys and storm base

>> No.55366205

>>55366154
>Damn, these conscripts have gotten a lot bigger since the last time I saw 'em
>Must be eating their rations

>>55366170
>Kitten would then be smaller than all of the other Custodes
Out of respect for the former Captain, I won't do that

>>55366172
Christ, what the hell did this man do..?

>> No.55366224

>>55366205
I mean, it could just be that they're working on something that directly ties into the relative safety and well being of the throneworld that makes them be like "okay we'll help u out since we were doing that anyway, bub"

>> No.55366245

>>55364177
Daemons! I love daemons because they're such a "have your cake and eat it" type faction.
I initially got them because I didn't just want human type faction, or basically human aliens with funny skin colours. I wanted fiends of Slaanesh, beasts of Nurgle, flamers and screamers.

I love big monsters, I love magic, I love the lore of the chaos god and all their symbolism. Each of them are terrifying in close combat and can match even elite units but are cheap enough to be taken in hordes. In the lore they can be portrayed as hordes of mindless horrors or as free thinking individuals all at the same time. They're immortal so you don't need any justification as to how your guys survive being blown up each game. Fuck Abbadon and other mortal whelps, daemons should be at the forefront of all chaos lore.

...it's just a shame they got nerfed so hard.

>> No.55366246

>>55366176
Each Hq took my ages then again I played as guard and would just spam three basilisks and bomb the shit out of everything slowly. Marines were the easiest Boreale was a mistake

>> No.55366250

>>55366170
Cringe

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>>55366250

>> No.55366307

>>55364532
> he says, as he shoves conshits onto the Table
> he said, with his wraithknight/ jetbike Eldar army in 7th
Cancer pls kys

>> No.55366315

>>55366304
>stop disliking what i like!
Looks like you're the one that's down with the 'tisms buddy.

>> No.55366316
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>>55366304
Fucking hell that sums up this entire board.

>> No.55366318

>>55364557
ESPECIALLY THOSE.
And the Knight heads

>> No.55366334
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>>55366315

>> No.55366377

>>55365334
Keep Wraight. Kill the rest.
Not gay so not fucking one of those ugly men

>> No.55366385

>>55365357
> like Phil Kelly
Eldarfag detected. How are craftworlds now brah? Loving all your wraithknights?

>> No.55366392

>/tg/ generally speaking says Chaos is cucked and useless whilst simultaneously claiming GW are bias towards loving Chaos and they never lose

Explain.

>> No.55366401
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>>55364177
AdMech.

Rusty Steampunk-Like aesthetics, worshipping some kind of God of Machines, are pretty religious overall. Really like their fluff.

>> No.55366404

>>55366392
Imperiumfags projecting

>> No.55366405

>>55365392
I bought the collectors edition Codex. I bought Mortarion. I really like the new DG stuff.
And even I think this is a waste of money. Monopose make me grind my teeth.... I just want to convert GW why you make it so hard.

>> No.55366421

>>55365489
Ehh. They come with collectors edition... I am just going to use them as command point/ victory point counters

>> No.55366431

>>55364177
Imperial Guard.

I've always been a fan of the redshirt armies in films and games, not because they die horribly, but because they're the underdogs who go through shit with as much courage and duty as the heroes do.

The difference is they're not protected by plot armour, or to serve as self-insert power fantasies for the main audience and that always made 'em stand out a bit more even in the backdrop.

Also I really, really like the design of their tanks and WW1-2 style of warfare. They're also the closest thing to 'human characters' for obvious reasons.

>> No.55366439

>>55366404
>chaoscucks in this much denial

>> No.55366440

>>55366392
>/tg/ is one person
Good work

>> No.55366450

>>55366439
See?

>> No.55366458

>>55366392
Chaos IS cucked and Chaos IS useless, but GW is trying to say "N-no, they're SUPER i-i-important y-you guys..!", further proved by the way GW rigged two planets in Chaos' favor in Konor and had the last planet be an "All or nothing" ordeal. Also they tried their hardest to recruit xenos to take points away from the imperium
GW wants chaos to win but its not going to happen, they're pathetic

>> No.55366462

Carolean guard color scheme? Yay or nay?
Thinking blue armor, yellow details, white aquilla...
Don't know about the fatigues tho

>> No.55366476

>>55366462
In case I wasn't clear, this is for IG.

>> No.55366486

>>55366462
>>55366476
well I for one think 17th-18th century swedish warfare was based AF, so whatever, go for it. I don't think the cadians suit the scheme but you can always prove me wrong

>> No.55366488

>>5536645
>he doesn't think rigging two planets was so they could cover up their pro-Imperial fuckups and handwave any criticism as 'WELL THEY TOOK TWO DIDN'T THEY?!"

For all SMfags like to scream Chaosfags cry 'rigged' I don't think I saw as much butthurt as those two weeks when they screamed 'NUU RIGGED BY GW WHY DO YOU HATE IMPERIALS RIGGED RIGGED RIGGED'

>> No.55366489

Are Necrons good at anything this edition or have they been blown out the water until their codex comes out?

>> No.55366492

>>55366458
>GW wants Chaos to win
Bullshit
They rigged those two planets for us so the campaign would drag on, Imperium was the planned winner from day one.
>SM release week 1
>Primaris Imperium releases the entire campaign
>Grey Knights released "coincidentally" at the same time as CSM
>Deathguard, supposed stars of campaign release after campaign is done
GW never wanted Chaos to win this, Warhammer has turned into Herohammer, and in the noblebrightness of the far future, your faction is the companies pet favourite, if you want to be hated by the company so badly just join literally any other faction you deluded retard.

>> No.55366511

>>55366492
The fact that you instantly presume I'm imperium speaks volumes to the state of Cuckdom that Chaoscucks are at

>> No.55366513

>>55366486
Maybe steel legion? It's hard...
I tried the painter thing and it looked like shit, but we'll see...

>> No.55366525

>>55366511
>I-I'm not even Imperium buddy
You're full of shit.
Only Imperiumfags are deluded enough to believe Chaos is GW favourite

>> No.55366533

>>55366513
Check into Mad Robot.

>> No.55366539

>>55366513
I MEAN IRON GUARD MY B LOL

>> No.55366540

>>55366513
Steel legion might do I guess to get them long muted blue coats? I'd say Death Korps since that's pretty similar to how the swedes did it but they're their own little thing I guess? so it wouldnt really work out

>> No.55366541

>>55366511
The fact that you instantly presume I'm Chaos speaks volumes to the state of Autism that Imperialfags are at

>> No.55366551

Has the Blightlord data sheet been leaked yet or only talked about? Would like to know if my old DG terminators are still codex legal.

>> No.55366563
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55366563

Best Baneblade Variant?

>> No.55366569

Soo... Blightlord Terminators have no Fists.
I would have been madder if they had no combi-weapons but I can't help feel cheated DESU

>> No.55366583

>>55366533
Berets or kepis...

>> No.55366584

>>55366563
I like an idea of a certain type of Stormlord a lot
Pack that bitch with 20 heavy weapon teams with, say Autocannons or Heavy Bolters and watch it shit out over a hundred shots per turn

>> No.55366595
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>>55366563

>> No.55366598

>>55366583
Mix them.

>> No.55366630

>>55366401
Dieselpunk at the earlist most, raygun gothic mostly.

>> No.55366688

>>55366630
The overuse of 'steampunk' annoys me, particularly when it's so rarely executed right even when it is actually a thing. Dieselpunk is great, and the martian raygun gothic look that AdMech have is great too, I wish folks appreciated it more.

>> No.55366689

>>55365503
Are those marines limited tough? Or just a cash grab, but unlimited?

>> No.55366713

>>55366688
Seconded. BTW it was a great move from GW, I absolutely love Admech, is the closest of the "new GW" stuff to look like the older design style.

>> No.55366725

>>55366688
Only recourse is to call paintings grafitti, and houses caves since it's "basicly the same thing and only autists would insist on seperate terms."

>> No.55366730

>>55366689
Webstore exclusive with Blanche posters.
No limit to my knowledge.

>> No.55366744

Is there any reason why they made Purestrain Genestealers the only thing remotely playable in Genestealer Cults? This is exactly what happens when a horde army gets no morale fixers. It's bullshit. The only way we can get around morale losses is paying 150 points for a Patriarch to babysit blobs.

>No good troops
>Expensive models (5pts for a Guardsman with an Autogun)
>No morale improvement (53pts for an HQ that gives a re-roll and 6+ FNP)
>Primus is the only ambush re-roller
>76 pt Psyker HQ that gets only 1 cast base
>12-24 pt tax to get a second power once per game
>Cult Ambush does not give an improvement on deployment ratios (e.g. A character ambushing and bribing a squad with them counts as 2 drops)


Literally playing GSC is only viable if you're playing a Guard army and set aside 600 points for 40 Genestealers.

>> No.55366745

So now that the dust has settled, how's Mortarion when compared to Magnus?

>> No.55366759

So, regarding >>55346565

That means that the Grey Knight from Pandorax, the one that was being tortured at the end of the book, is the Avatar of Slaanesh?

>> No.55366768

>>55366745
>dust has settled
>miniature just went up for pre-order
What a dumb faggot you are

>> No.55366788

>>55366768
>he doesn't know that "now that the dust has settled" posts are bait

>> No.55366794
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>>55366759
There is no Avatar of Slaanesh anon.
Fulgrim is trying to made one.
Also if something is daemon you know it will lose against mortals because daemon can be killed with no consequences.

>> No.55366827

>>55366730
I love the models but damn this irks me. I would have bought 1-2 box on the spot if they costed less.

>> No.55366866

>>55365715
Specific Tally man character.

Un-purity seal and quill for dirty writings.

>> No.55366867

>>55366827
It works for me.
By now my DG Army has pretty much a set of every kit so no samey models at all.

>> No.55366869
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Minor conversion for bullgryns. Does anyone else dislike the tank tread on their armour? It seems a bit too orky for me, given that it's standard issue rather than cobbled together by the ogryns themselves

>> No.55366903

Been running various numbers for Admech's newer toys since I needed to find a way to counter Death Guard. Six Protector Kastelans with Wrath of Mars and Cawl rerolls (so about 970 points and 2CP, although not entirely without versatility) will statistically do exactly 18 wounds to Mortarion, and 20 Fulgurites using Attack Twice will do about 18.3 after factoring in casualties from 4+ Smite aura and his round of attacks.
Thr new Fulgurite strat has once again restored their capability to kill any Primarch if they all get the charge, although fat chance of that. New dex has already added significant power increases to Admech, and we haven't even seen any of the unit changes or more than one generic Stratagem yet

>> No.55366912

>>55366569
It's because they don't want them to have to compete with easy to recast FW Grave Warden Terminators. Which also happen to look awesome...
Don't believe me? It's it strange that the armor pattern of deathshroud and not Grave Wardens are magically flipped from the HH models..

>> No.55366933
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Duncan Sempai!!!!
B-Baka!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ougd6l1FnLQ

>> No.55366956
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Is kill team worth playing? I like the idea of skirmish style games but 40K seems ill suited to do it

>brutal game of close combat
>Tau versus space marine

Well that sounds like a balance battle.

>> No.55366962
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>>55366933
I love these new GW videos. They're so dorky, but in the best way.

>> No.55366995
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>>55366869
I removed the treads from my ogryns as well, prefer the look without them.

I think the intent of the GW designers was to show that ogryns are basically just beasts of burden, since they carry both jerry cans and tank treads. Also note the rings on the back of the armor, I think it's supposed to be attachment points for chains - so that you can tow a vehicle etc.

>> No.55367036

>>55365376
>that pic
>painted tau drones against a grey tide

war... war has changed.

>> No.55367065
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55367065

>>55365334
>Not a single female writer

>> No.55367081

>>55366995
I get the idea of them being used for labour, and dont have an issue with the chain points on the back, its just the treads I have issue with.
Do you have any pics of yours? I havent been able to find any picks online of other people who have done it.

>> No.55367091

>>55366933
10/10 as usual

>> No.55367100

>>55366956
I like playing Kill Team a lot but not the official one, been playing the Heralds of Ruin one back in 7th
now they're in the midst of updating it for 8th so I'm just building stuff for regular 40k

>> No.55367111

>>55366744
I think they'll be great when they get their codex. They suffer in the index because they really need the depth/stratagems that a codex can provide rather than the 'rough first draft' more so than any other army in the game.

Unfortunately given they're the least played/least fleshout standalone army in 40k they'll probably get theirs last.

>> No.55367146

Hopes for the Tson codex?
Specialist Sorcerers and what happened when Ahriman chased the resurrected rubrics on my wishlist. Exalted Space Laser again would be nice too

>> No.55367158

>>55366933
We've ALL imagined our models going Toy Story behind our backs, right

>> No.55367208

>>55367158
No.
But I'm boring line that.

>> No.55367209

>>55366933
C U T E

>> No.55367210
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55367210

Quick question if anyone particularly knows, how would you go about making a deep blue-black, like raven feathers? I've finally settled on that colour for my admech's robes and the like.

>> No.55367215

>>55367065
>female writers
>at all attracted to the prospect of marine wank

Not surprising, honestly. I wanna say there's a traditionally super small population of women in the hobby, but a lot of the professional mini painting outfits have female painters.

>> No.55367243

>>55367210
Blacks a tricky one. You want to have a highlight color but still leave it presominantly black. The right mixture comes down to style, practice, and what you're happy with.

If you want to do one very slightly reflective like that you can experiment with varnishes or watered down ardcoat as a final touch, with basing/pigment weathering to break up the finish at the bottom of the robes.

>> No.55367262

>>55367215
with the amount of effort it takes for one of them to bust a nut, I'm not at all surprised they have the power of a steady brush

>> No.55367285
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55367285

>>55367081
Here, only made belly protection for one of them. Wasn't looking for uniformity as they're a inqusitorial retinue and not regular troops.

The plates are plasticard and the rivets are made from nail art caviar beads.

>> No.55367290

New thread here
>>55367281
>>55367281
>>55367281

>> No.55367362

>>55367243
I was thinking of trying to go from some form of colour transition, perhaps starting with Naggaroth Night and then giving it was wash with drakenhof nightshade, but then there's losing black in exchange for purple and blue.

>> No.55367374

>>55367215
I know Sarah Cawkwell did some 40k novels, not sure if there are any other women

and given that most new canon SW novels written by women are YA bullshit I'm not exactly going to cry about it

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55367423

>>55366458
>gw wants chaos to win
Its funny how imperiumcucks like to play the oppressed victim by the big bad ebil gw, right on the heels of a whole new line of even tougher, nobler, purer marines who are super strong and dont afraid of anything, PLUS their primarchs get to come back, even though they arent immortal daemons who require massive summoning rituals like the traitor primarchs

Yeah bud, poor (You) why isnt your faction even more overpowered in the lore :(

>> No.55367453

>>55367285
Those look really cool.

>> No.55367479

>>55364511
>has some better than C:CSM shit
>beyond OP

Basically just Morty, maybe flail-termies if more than 1 in 5.

>> No.55367534

>>55364647
All the unique DG shit are sidegrades to existing shit though.

>> No.55367604

>>55364741
>the intention
The intention was never to have anything other than a personality cult in NK, I'm no communism shill but that isn't even failed communism. Your choosing to buy into NK propaganda to say that was the inent/ is the reality.

>> No.55367652

>>55364741
>This isn't a space marine because it's literally just an eldar model I've been desperately trying to proxy as Ultramarines, but mean burger boys keep squating in weebland with AA.

>> No.55367670

>>55367100
Okay so HOR is the one to go with.

Any particular reason? What does it fix with the base game?

>> No.55367970

>>55366866
> some gets model
> paints a bunch of ">" and anime girls all over the parchment for 41k shitposting

>> No.55369177

>>55366933
Duncan is so cute

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