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Tau'va, We Return Your Links, Gue'la edition

>New Codexes after Death Guard and Ad Mech are confirmed: Tyranids, Craftworld Eldar and Imperial Guard

>Also Chapter approved and Necromunda stuff

>Konor Campaign, rigged or not, take a minute to appreciate that the UI and assets are pretty dope and lovingly crafted, even the background has Poppop looking in

>GW FAQs (1.1):
>FW FAQ (1.1):

>Rules and such. Use Readium on pc/iphone, lithium/kobo on android:
>Everything 8th edition in properly converted pdf & epub, fully bookmarked and linked with in-line errata annotations

>Other Megas

>WIP Math-hammer doc (Thanks Chart-Anon!)

>> No.55188209
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First for The Deathwatch.

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All for the Greater Good!

>> No.55188266

>Gravis Chad Captain has a default master-crafted power sword
>Normal Chad Captain is limited to a normal power sword

Why ?

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Fourth for the siege master

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>trying to seize the means of painting

get out commie

>> No.55188331

beergut means he has to compensate

>> No.55188350

Have to chug a lot more BUD Light to get DAT good sword dawg

>> No.55188364

What are you working on this weekend /40kg/?

>> No.55188366
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psh, get outta here before I Alpharius your ass

>> No.55188370

So, can i use Codex sheet for my TSon Rubrics?

>> No.55188373

Skulls kit is so good

Wtf I love GW now

>> No.55188375
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T'aus would be much cooler if close-combat weaponry was standard issue on their battlesuits. Just like Terminators have a standard gun/fist basic equipment for both mid-range and close range, it would be awesome if Crisis battlesuits had a default 2 guns and one blade.

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Is he right to do the things he does?

>> No.55188382

Went to play with a friend, ended up just hanging out so I guess I'll keep assembling the shit I just got

>> No.55188397

Not really. He's mostly selfish.

>> No.55188403

Farsight melee suits would be neat.

>> No.55188406

Finish two predators, a 6+1AB bike squad, weather my sicaran battle tank and sicaran venator..

Probably all I can be bothered with.

>> No.55188407
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Last time u tried to btfo perturabo it didnt work so well

>> No.55188418

Spent several hours painting orange on all my poxwalkers. Takes so long now that I'm doing two thin coats.

Makes you wish for one thick coat.

>> No.55188420

Im at work, but I have a half my army to paint, a Chadnaught waiting to be build and 10 more intercessors coming home. And I still haven't brought the paint to make the highlights on my dudes.
The ride never ends.

>> No.55188427

>I want to combine a Battlefleet Gothic game and a warhammer 40k game. I don't really know much about BFG, but...

If you want to play the two simultaneously, you could try having a king of the hill style BFG match and whoever controls a specific point on that board at the end of each round BFG round has "firing position" on the 40k board.

I think there's already a stratagem or scenario in 8th that does something like this, but whoever controls "the hill" that round gets to place some old templates and then scatter them before the movement phase.

number of shots to be determined by ships in the zone or something.

>> No.55188434
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How can I include a LRC in an Inquisition list? Do I have to ally muhreens?

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Primaris are fun to paint.

>> No.55188444

It was retconned.

It was 50/50 till Guilliman came. Lmao with a huge fortress and surprise all the Iron Weenies could achieve is 50/50.

>> No.55188445

holy fuck that's sexy as shit boii

>> No.55188455

How did you make the black part? That's really good, anon.

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Not mine tho :(

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It was pretty easy in practice; black basecoat, thin layer of Eshin Grey (effectively a really heavy handed drybrush), lighter drybrush of Fenris Grey (the bluegrey Space Wolf one) for highlighted areas then a wash of Nuln Oil. It looks nice in person, my camera photos aren't the best.

>> No.55188587

It looks pretty cool on photos too. Thanks, might copy you.

>> No.55188656
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>Dark Angels and Space Wolves will get their Primarch soon
Sucks to be a Blood Angel, anons.

>> No.55188660


Imagine believing this,who retconned the battle?matty ward?

>> No.55188661
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When painting or assembling, do any of you use loupes, jewelers lenses, or other magnification devices, either hand-held, worn, lamp-attached or otherwise freestanding?

>> No.55188672

Salamanders will get them before them.

>> No.55188687

no because it'd show the minor imperfections in my paint job, so i'd feel bad and stop painting

>> No.55188704

Yes but Blood Angels will never get theirs.

>> No.55188740
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Have we learned anything about the new armors besides they're Better™. What sets Mark X Tacticus apart from Mk. 8? Or what determines who gets to wear Gravis armor? Terminator Captains are (usually) captains of the 1st Company. Is a Gravis Captain a Primaris captain of a 1st?

>> No.55188747

Some mark 2 assault marines for a HH escalation league that's happening in my area. Turns out there will be 8 legions including me and some mechanicum. Im hyped af.

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I use pic related. I prefer it over tablelights

>> No.55188755

>InB4 Sanguinius faked his death.

>> No.55188762

That's for the better. The ultimate retcon is making a noble sacrifice in spite of knowing where he was heades, moot.

>> No.55188785

He sacrificed himself without knowing he was going to be revived. It doesn't detract from the nobility of his sacrifice because he made it in ignorance of the future.

>> No.55188820
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>"Sir, it's coming up on the 30th anniversary of warhammer 40k! Fans will want a model in honor of it."
"Well I'll be damned, 30 years already. So much money, so little time"
>"yes sir. But as I was saying, fans expect a commemorative release."
"I guess. What's the options?"
>"well, since a boxed set or game is out, maybe we should pick one of the time-honored factions?"
>"oh? Like what?"
>"Orks obviously, or perhaps a unique member of the ecclesiarchy- people love the old style!"
"no, the damn forgejews are stealing that from us. No necromunda, and no orks- who would buy orks?"
>"uh, yes sir. Well then how about a space marine? You can't get more icon-
"Yes, a space marine! Perfect!"
>"great idea sir, we've never released a commemorative space marine model before. Perhaps a beakie, or a rebrand of the classic mk 7 armor?"
"Wait, didn't we just release some space marines..."
>"yes sir, the primaris marine line."
"AHA! Primaris marines, that's it. Make a thousand primaris marines"
>"well sir, the lack of individuality on primaris may mean the model will turn out bla-"
"Yes, it'll be simple and elegant. What a better way to celebrate the 30th anniversary of warhammer 40k than with a model from a brand new line that looks the same as the rest and captures that uncluttered sleek and modern look of the early games?"
>"..... yes sir."

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Same thing as last weekend and probably same as next weekend

>> No.55188944

This model looks like you can build it from normal primaris(boltgun ones) box, why it cot so much.
Last year Marine was unique.

>> No.55188986

>the lack of individuality on primaris
This was probably the worst thing about the 30th anniversary model
I like the Primaris sculpts in general, but the one they used for the anniversary is almost literally something you'd get from the Intercessor kit with a sword glued on the hip. I know they want to push the new hotness, but why couldn't they have done a unique looking model? The Gravis Captain for example, while I know not everyones cup of tea, is at least a distinct look that you're not going to get from a basic kit, I can't understand why they didn't do something like that.

>> No.55189001
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Speaking of Tau, I want to build a small force for Shadow War Armageddon.

I'd like a small SWAT team feeling unit, like think Rainbow Six Siege or Xcom kind of, and I was wondering what army should go with.

Deathwatch was considered for a bit, but I want someone less gothic and more tacticool looking, so I was thinking Raptor space marines, but I already have a Salamanders army as my primary force.

So I was thinking either Tempestus Scions or Tau for this then.

Tau might be fun for like having Breachers and Pathfinders, and some stealth suits running around, maybe a Tidewall shieldwall instead of riot shields and a Devilfish SWAT van, and lots of drones.

>> No.55189022

Just include a marine one in your detachment. You don't need any other marines if you don't want them. You're using the Imperial tag anyway and your Inquisitior and Acolytes have "Authority of the Inquisition" so they can ride in it regardless.

>> No.55189029

I must have missed this bit of news. Is that literally just an Intercessor with a couple extra skulls, a sword, a rope and a purity seal? That could be the regular sarge from the box and I wouldn't blink at it. Hell, it could be a regular squaddie.

Then again I play Admech, so I'm bad at distinguishing Marine models since they mostly look the same and I just look at the weapons. Does this guy have some kind of deep lore explanation for all his shit, or is that as much of a meh vet sarge as he looks?

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Painting Stealth Suits and hoping to get a Ghostkeel built.

>> No.55189068

That looks like red baby mecha piloting bigger mecha, kek.

>> No.55189079

>Who run Bartertown?

>> No.55189084
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Gimmee dat motherfucking Khan. Primarch on a fucking jetbike.

>> No.55189112

Fight me bitch the Ghostkeel is the only mecha looking stuff in the entire Tau line.

>> No.55189120

Unfortunately breachers arent in SWA

>> No.55189123

I'm making a primaris army and none of you can dissuade me. I'm also making a deathguard army. My wallet cries but it's going to keep me sane.

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I have one of these and use it every once in a while. More to look for things I missed rather than while painting. Mainly though I just got it because Ottlites are damned good lamps for being color neutral.

>> No.55189142

Ya, I was sort of angry when they released an averagish looking sergeant for the big 30. Not even apart of the history, lame.

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>picks two factions that share a constant stream on new, easy to build starter boxes
>Complains about cost
Oh boo hoo, you pansy

>> No.55189160

No kidding. It's basically a plain Primaris with a purity seal, sword, and slightly fancy shoulder pad from an upgrade sprue added.

>> No.55189165

What is?

Also not specifically SWA, we play like 1000 pt games on 4'x4' maps with tight multi-level urban terrain, and the only thing stoping you from taking large models is them not physically fitting through hallways

>> No.55189185

Paths are the main troop

>> No.55189191

Seeing as I won't be using them when playing, no.

>> No.55189206

>Obliterators: 4 Assault S6+D3 -D3 D3 shoots, 65pts
>SoT /w Soulreaper: 4 Heavy S5 -3 1D shoots, 60pts

Scarab Occult buffs when?

>> No.55189222

Most likely never, but if there are any changes, expect to see them in the TS Codex

>> No.55189223

>no pre-orders until the 9th
>no release until the 16th
>no participation in Konor
>complete blackout on tons of new models until the very last fortnight until their release
Why were the Death Guard handled so poorly? It's ironic that the Death Guard are viewed as DOA by GW.

>> No.55189267

Sauce or stfu

>> No.55189279

sauce on what?

>> No.55189290

"Poorly" is overstating things quite a bit. Although I agree the timing of Konor is awkward.

>> No.55189306

Primaris got lots of piecemeal releases and leaks. Death Guard got the Konor fudge video and the Codex: DG "first look" which was a fucking disaster since all it really showed was the front page of the codex that they already revealed a few months before.

>> No.55189319

Aren't they Psykers? And have several other bonus rules?

>> No.55189333

We'll probably see more previews this week.

>> No.55189340
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Anyone ever ordered anything from laura.hook on ebay? I'm tempted to snag one of his Leviathans but I haven't heard anything about the quality of his recasts.
Anyone have an experience with him here?

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So I've been combing my Admech bitzbox for Servitorpriest heads (had just enough) and I found that I actually DID have quite a few parts I'd thought I'd used. Apparently that gun on my Knight base was a Chimera heavy stubber rather than the Ironstrider Autocannon I thought it had been, since I never actually made a Ballistarii.

Anyway, I have a couple spare Sicarian bodies and an idea. What if I made Admech assassins as Alpha or Princeps Primus models for my squads? I run two Arquebus teams, so I could redo an Enginseer with a holstered Dragoon rifle on his back and pistol drawn as a Vindicare, use some Infiltrator body and parts bulked up some with armour and different weapons as a Culexus Infiltrator Primus (Better neurostatic as explanation for debuff aura) Ruststalker with the same and some toxic vials as the explosive death of the Vindicare and so on.

No idea what to do for the Callidus, though. Is this a retarded idea, or can Admech benefit from Assassin allies? Almost 300 points of 4 Arquebi + Vindicare is probably too many snipers, though.

>> No.55189366

They have Psyker that can only cast Smite, which does 1/D3. If he perils, you'll probably lose him and another terminator, so it's not that good. They have "All is Dust" which allow them to ignore Heavy penalty and gives them +1 to saves when damage of enemy weapon is 1.

They are equipped with Inferno Combi-bolters, which are -2 combis, can get single Soulreaper and a Hellfyre Missilerack. They also rock power swords.

However, they are really fucking expensive for what they do, and are just straight up worse than Obliterators, as both units are supposed to drop in and shoot up enemies.

>> No.55189372

How tall is an IG sentinel? Working on a count-as for my renegades and heretics. Going to have an autocannon or flamer on it for the ranged weapon

>> No.55189379

*explosive death of the Eversor, that should be/.

>> No.55189403
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Ignore the dedgame minis.

>> No.55189419

Just saying. If SO had equal or better guns than them the Oblits wouldn't have much point.

>> No.55189438

Are people at local gameshop tournies any good in your opinion? I was going into play today and the whole back room was booked so now I am wondering if I should get in on it next time

>> No.55189447

SOs can only be taken in TS armies, who can't take Obliterators.

>> No.55189456
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How hard are these fellas to magnetize? Is it worth it or should I just go boltstorm? The flamestorm seem like they'd be fun.

>> No.55189470

It's really easy to "ally in" oblits.

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trying to finish these sabre platforms / searchlights

also, recovering from the despair of accidentally mailing 3 bunkers I ordered to my old address

>> No.55189501
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I flipped through the book again, is "Imperium" basically an army now? Like you can just throw whatever units together?

>> No.55189568

I like those guys. I like them a lot less when I realize how much something like a twin assault cannon can hurt hem.

>> No.55189587


Pretty much, but they won't benefit from a lot of the character buffs and abilities which only activate units with more specific tags, like "<astra millitarum> infantry models". You can still fill detachments with any Imperial units, though, synergy will just be less spectacular.

>> No.55189608

Are Hellblasters worth their price on the battlefield ?

>> No.55189609

And what the fuck happened to mk 9?

>> No.55189624

Same thing as windows 9

>> No.55189634

I mean don't Terminators basically have the same problem?

>> No.55189646

No, but thank you for the namedrop.

t. GW legal dpt.

>> No.55189671

well they've a 17% higher chance to save it.

>> No.55189693

God damn, today's thread is slow.

>> No.55189710

Sorry mate, but that's thing is fucking awful.
You'd literally be better of just using a a dollarstore toy instead.

>> No.55189734

It's because it'split with a 2 day old thread with no cover image, backlink or pasta.

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*sips tea*

>> No.55189753

>UK chaos players are getting whooped that hard
Use soul grinders! (and titans and knights)

>> No.55189757

Nice... but drill that barrel.

>> No.55189781

Well, if those other chapters didn't want to get purged, they should have been Space Wolves.

>> No.55189788
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Considering starting an Excorsists 2k force now that my steel confessors army is mostly done, is this a good idea?

If so, what would I use in the army? I figure primaris are off the table, but an emphasis on librarians and Scouts sounds fun. also what CT? RG would fit fighting daemons, but maybe salamanders for expensive gear?

Not really- both dudes get wounded on 3's, but the terminators at least have their better save to rely on, plus termies pack a hell of a better punch in shooting.

The real wrench to throw at both is an autocannon, if you're IG or chaos you MUST take them, it fucking destroys marine assault armies. Same thing with shining spears, they merc aggressors

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>> No.55189814

in almost all cases yeah

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I want to talk about my guys but I have no excuse to... I've been super busy so no games yet.
Il go in to the shop tomorrw to see whos around.

>> No.55189832

That's right. Moreover, Termies have a 5++, which is always nice to have when the enemy has weapons with high penetration.

The Aggressors are a bit fragile for their cost. They only have W2, which is the same as a normal Chadmarine. Their save is 3+, which is also the same. They have no invul, and no FNP. Their only extra defence is their T of 5, and that's negated by tons of weapons with S6 or S7. It's just as easy to kill an Agressor than an Intercessors with a non-supercharged Plasma weapon or an Assault Cannon.

And you can't deep strike them, or transport them in anything else than a Repulsor.

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That's why BAs will always be superior to SWs.

>> No.55189880

Exorcists have primaris.

They roll in different "cults" in addition to their companies. All the devastators have a cult, all the vets have a cult, etc. So you could do a themed army like that.

Could use grey knights for your psykers/veterans. Same geneseed.

>> No.55189905

they can totally be Primaris

the thing about Exorcists is that they force recruits to undergo and overcome demonic possession
that can be done to a primaris

>> No.55189923

Oh. So they're the same as grey Knights in terms of ability and daemon-hunting background, but GK can't have primaris because...?

>> No.55189949

Wait, who are the space iriquois?

>> No.55189954


That profile was taken down for a while so I sent them a message. They replied that they also have a website War table games (all one word) where they sell the same items as eBay but a bit cheaper and you get loyalty discounts.

Just ask for a PayPal invoice.

If this advice helped you, send them a message asking to get some Chaos Hell Talons in stock they said they would if it was popular/asked for :D

>> No.55189961

Originally? Dark Angels. They've lost that since.

>> No.55189979

I thought RG?

>> No.55189989

if the site is theirs then I can say that I've got a 50/50 positive experience
Bought Krieg engineers and then the 30k spess mereens Legion Praetors kits
Kriegers are 10/10 quality, and the praetors are garbage
that could also be because of bad FW products who knows

>> No.55189993

This isn't a GW affiliated site, so not the place to get an answer.

>> No.55190004

Does anyone have the new art for Mortarion and Typhus?

Seen it posted several times but can't find it in the archive.

>> No.55190013

Here's exorcists fluff 101:

>be ordo malleus
>be killin demons with GK buddies
>wish we had more of these guys they're p gud
>decide to create budget GKs in the cursed founding with modified GK geneseed
>they're not all gonna be psykers cause we wanna have TONS OF these dudes
>so instead we're gonna summon a daemon into them, then they gotta banish it on their own
>no coteaz, you are the daemons
>this will make them near invisible to daemons
>perfect plan, nothing could go wrong
>except for that time things went horribly wrong and we created a renegade chapter that started fighting the Black Dragons for some reason
>also they have a bunch of extra scouts, which is totally not because we wanted an overstrength chapter

Since they're only GK lite, and they're not made the same way, the primaris upgrades work on them.

>> No.55190023

So titanic feet, do they actually hit 3 times or are the 3 dice just a higher chance to hit

>> No.55190025


If that Mech-Assassin holding a Nerf Maverick?

>> No.55190026

That's legit pretty funny.

Mind you ever since ice weapons and hover chariots it's basically been a joke of a faction anyway. Even in HH their lore sucks now. Shame...

>> No.55190055

That's a shame! I've only ordered a few nid and Eldar things and they've all been fine except for one carnifex weapon that I didn't care about anyway.

>> No.55190090

I did give them a new chance by ordering some termies recently so we'll see if that bumps the 1/2 into a 2/3

>> No.55190121


*Glances into toybox*

Apparently so. Apparently either priceless relics are used as weapons regardless of efficiency over a regular laspistol or it's Magos Teamwork Course day.

>> No.55190164


The fucking Nerf Maverick is damn near everywhere. There's half a dozen good bits stores that sell versions of them, including based Victoria Miniatures, and I'm wondering if a lot of artists either own one for fun and use it as a reference, or it's just a fun design they find when looking up gun references online.

Or it's an inside joke. There's often inside jokes like that amongst communities. Hide the Maverick in the artwork and see who notices, like how writers on shows make hacking look over-the-top on purpose, or how sound guys always sneak in the Wilhelm Scream.

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Wow, I also have this

>> No.55190427

I believe the barrel is drilled, so it is

>> No.55190479

why the fuck is the thread so dead

>> No.55190490

Is the green stuff there as a place holder like people sometimes do with putty? If not remove it before painting.

>> No.55190511

40k is ded

>> No.55190522

I thought that was hh tho

>> No.55190543

how bad woul it be if the khan fell to slaanesh?

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>> No.55190547
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It's Saturday and /tg/ is out playing ga-BAHAHAHAHA oh wow couldn't quite finish saying it

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wew space furries btfo

>> No.55190564
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here you go senpai

>> No.55190579

Its been slow for a week or so.

We're not really slow on news either. Can't really say what it is.

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I see your IG as a strong Ork theme...

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>i want plastic sisters

>> No.55190609


What's the appeal?

Humour me.

>> No.55190613

Thing is, the Celestial Lions were a normal chapter of 1k marines. Space Wolves have 12 great companies rumoured to be as large as a standard chapter. It's not as simple a task to rout them (heh) as it would be an xth-founding chapter like the CL.

>> No.55190624

Kids getting ready to go back to school, out buying new shoes with mommy convincing her they're good boys and deserve a gaming laptop so they can homework faster

>> No.55190625
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Should they have just released the chads as new models in a different scale instead of making up a total skub plot line with some serious Cawl Ex Machina that they now have to live with from here on?

>> No.55190662

Maybe the Emperor was a closet furry.

>> No.55190672

People already pointlessly call them weebs as it is. That said, I'd be down for Farsight Enclaves having different models with better melee capabilities.

>> No.55190673

I'm having a hard time deciding my 8th edition army. I played Harlequins/Dark Eldar all through 7th so I want to shy away from Eldar armies. The only army I know I don't want to play is Tyranids/GSC. I'm more of a painter/modeller than I am a super competitive guy but I do travel to several major events a year so I'd like something that I can take home a few games with.

>> No.55190690

The 12 'great companies' are roughly a hundred marines each. Stop defending mary sue writing.

>> No.55190716

Damn, I love the look of the Ghostkeel and Stealths

...and now I can't unsee.

Uh. What about every other big battlesuit?

>> No.55190724

>I'm more of a painter/modeller
orks or renegade /heretics.
the options man, the options.

you can make everything and if it looks cool people will complement you nonstop.
Especially ork kit building instructions are suggestions at best and you can loot whatever kit you like.

>> No.55190728

>they're probably fucking

>> No.55190729


It\s pretty good time to start Death Guard now.

>> No.55190749

Who cares. Fuck it, go maximum weeb
Enclaves wargear already includes fusion blaster swords for the *pss nothing personnel slices through tank*

>> No.55190750


R&H were a possible but the rules are fucking awful. If I were to go R&H I'd have to go just regular AM right now.


Yeah I was strongly considering chaos in some capacity. I'd like to go maybe a combination of demons and marines.

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SW Great Company is less than 200 strong, and they can only recruit from Fenris.
So not so hard to rout them.

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Give them to the separatists, we don't want use silly melee weapons.

>> No.55190781

I like the Space Wolves on the grounds of the hilarious amounts of butthurt they inspire. Every TS player is reduced to autistic screeching at their mere mention. It's fantastic.

>> No.55190801

Hit 3 times. Basically triple your attacks if you use them.

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At least you're honest. Here's an updated photo, still bad?

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Why do Nurgle players do this?

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>> No.55190847


yo wtf now I want to sell my Space Woofs

>> No.55190850

>Farsight's scientists reverse-engineer Necron teleportation technology.
>Fusion blades standard equipment on every stealth suit squad
>nothin personnel, gue'la

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I have 28 points to burn. Maybe upgrade 2 storms to have asscannons or something.

Carcharodons 2000pts CP 7
Ravenguard Tactics

Battalion +3CP
Librarian w/Sword and PP
Captain w/Chainsword and Combi-Melta + Teeth of Terra

Scouts with Shotguns x5
Scouts with Shotguns x5
Scouts with Shotguns x5

>Dedicated Transport
Landspeeder Storm w/Heavy Bolter
Landspeeder Storm w/Heavy Bolter
Landspeeder Storm w/Heavy Bolter

Vanguard Detachment +1CP

Tartaros x10 with Lightning Claws
Contemptor Dread w/Asscannon
Company vets x5 w/Meltas and Chainswords
Company vets x5 w/Meltas and Chainswords

Drop Pod w/Stormbolter
Drop Pod w/Stormbolter

>> No.55190881

>most chapters try to follow the codex astartes

why are you posting lies?

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sisters are perfect as-is

>> No.55190901

It would be a good daemon prince if he didn't fuck up the face.

>> No.55190913

Initially, yes but as the years passed, he compromised and slaughtered his way past the point of no return.

>> No.55190920

Why is the goblin on his back not at nurgling

>> No.55190925

Somebody hit me up with a quick tier list

>> No.55190943

is that fucking yoda hanging on the woody bit

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>> No.55190957

> My dudes > your dudes

>> No.55190965
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One day...one day GW will post a rumor engine article and it will be a closeup of a plastic version of a Simulacrum, sort of like pic related. And in that moment, GW will have created the world's first engine fueled purely by hype and money.
It sucks it may never happen...GW won't make plastic sisters because they don't sell(as metal models). They don't sell because they're fucking metal and metal sucks to work with/can't make nearly as detailed minis despite having a very vocal fanbase. I can't count the number of times I've heard someone say they'd play Sisters if they weren't metal.

>> No.55190990

>GW doing market research

>> No.55190994

You heard me, go

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>> No.55191018

>Auto Bolt Rifle : 24" Assault 2 S4 AP0 D1
>Bolt Carbine : 24" Assault 2 S4 AP0 D1

Bravo, GW.

>> No.55191023


Chaos with Malefic Lords
Imp Soup
Whatever other garbage you're interested in

>> No.55191046

there a way to see the NOVA lists without shelling out money on a shit app?

>> No.55191049

Pathfinders and drones.

You can bribe ethereals, fireblades, and stealth suits with prometheum.

Everyone loves the Accelerator Drone, but honestly the Recon Drone's burst cannon is hard to ignore.

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>Chaos with Malefic Lords
Lords as in plural? Am i a WAACfag if i only use one? I really like the old metal model.

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I'm stupid. Please explain.

>> No.55191105

>Assault Cannon
>Heavy 4

>Heavy Flamer
>Assault D6

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lasguns can kill land raiders

you sure are

>> No.55191114

One is fine, you're a complete cunt if you run a bunch of them.
Especially if you throw Magnus into the mix.

>> No.55191121

Primaris LMG is the exact same as the Primaris carbine and its retarded

>> No.55191134

Isn't heavy flamer heavy d6? so you cant advance and shoot it.

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Thank you!

>> No.55191143

Working on building my other Razorwing jet-fighter, looking forward to raping my Blood Angels playing friend again soon.

>> No.55191144

Edition and codexes arent all out yet to give definetive answers on which armies are the best and which the worst. Once the big factions all got their codex itll be more obvious.

If you just want to know whats hot shit at tournaments Cheese-spam/Herohammer is still very much alive.

Just like in 7th you see a "Chaos Daemons" list that is almost nothing but magnus, brimstones and now newly added 30pt Psykers in form of malefic lords

Conscript Spam (backed by Artillery)

9 Character-list Gulliman Draigo Celestine and 6 hard-to-hit assassins, completely abusing the way Character targetting is worded

Spacemarine Flyer Spam

>> No.55191147

The Chadmarines have their own special arsenal that only they can wield. It includes those two weapons, which are variants of the Cawl Pattern Bolt Rifle. The Auto Bolt Rifle is exclusive to the Intercessors, while the Bolt Carbine is exclusive to the Reivers. While they don't look the same, they are, stat-wise, twice the same weapon.

I'm simply amazed that GW has pushed the special snowflake weapon logic so far that they effectively created the same weapon twice, just with different names and looks, just to make sure every new Chad unit has their own little unique rifle.

>> No.55191152

Huh, you're right.

>> No.55191156

>sn't heavy flamer heavy d6?
yes and the assault cannon is heavy 6 not 4

>> No.55191175

Thanks my man, only response worth my time

>> No.55191176

The asscannon used to be an assault weapon in previous editions, though.

>> No.55191193

How good are the various assassins in this edition when not being used as character screens in WAAC lists? Wanted to add some more characters to my Admech since I feel I need some section leaders.

Also, how the HELL do you kill stuff like Leviathans and Guilliman? Every game one or two of those smash into my firebase and rip the whole damn thing to bits around Turn 4, since Vanguard screens only last so long.

>> No.55191228

more laser onigger dunecoons?

>> No.55191257
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Anyone know any good sources for me to loot some kind of ship's masts from? I wanna make some piratey Battlewagons for my freebootas and that's the only idea I've got going as far as shiplike battlewagons go

>> No.55191272

dark eldar/aelf ships maybe?

>> No.55191288

Tau in Armageddon are Pathfinders. Can still work, seeing as how they can all be kitted with pulse carbine. Hell, you can take an Ion Rifle (shotgun/breach tool) and/or a rail rifle (sniper). Cadre Fireblade, Stealth Suit, and Ethereal are your special operatives

>> No.55191294

Lads, how do i not get raped by psykers as Black Templars? played against a mates thousand wrongs the other day and >70% of the damage he did to me was due to smite mortal wounds, including 9 wounds from one magnus smite onto a land raider which he then punched to death, meaning it died in a single turn. He then survived the charge from 5 hammer Vanguard Vets, 3 5 man tactical squads, a chaplain and the emperors champion. what the fuck do i do against this shit? i know the strategem is there but it doesnt seem enough to deal with it.

>> No.55191344

Reposing here for ideas since old thread died

Custom chapter I have been thinking about

>My idea is essentially the maimed survivors of isstvan III, mainly ones in sarcophogi strong enough to survive the virus bombimbs, are offered to join the iron hands to continue the fight for the emperor.

>However with many of them being from traitor legions, they refuse to bring that shame upon the IH, especially ones tracing back to fulgrim.

>So they form their own chapter, intimately tied to the IH, but unwilling to truly join them until they repent for their traitor counterparts.

>It would be a dreadnought heavy "chapter" if you can call it that, IH tactics for sure. I think perhaps some color scheme similar to IH but using the heraldry of their previous legion similar to how the deathwatch does it?

>However they wouldn't be a symbol there to show pride in, more like a scar that they wear as penance.

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Just buy a cheap plastic boat model.

>> No.55191351

>assault cannon doesn't do D3 wounds per successful hit of a 6
fucking gay. i thought their RoF was supposed to be so high that if a single round hit you, 3 more would pass through the same cavity before your brain even registered the impact.

>> No.55191384

guess I'll go looking around local hobby stores for ships then
also I've got a bit of an itch to get a ravager and turn it into a looted battlewagon
cheers lads

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This little beauty will get some action before the end of the month

>> No.55191391

sup mugi

>> No.55191404

Name the coolest Tyranid Forgeworld model

>> No.55191406

Is there any way to make khaki power armour not look like ass?

>> No.55191410

This. These >>55189750 & >>55190303 sound like a bunch of butthurt sperging by someone with an axe to grind, little knowledge of what they're talking about and are blind to shit other chapters pull.

>> No.55191416

Best solution is screening more important units with chaff so the Smite doesn't BTFO your expensive shit, until you killed the offending psyker.
Even with GK I sometimes don't prevent anything from being cast with mediocre deny rolls.

>> No.55191427

One option is to include Grefax. She's really cheap for the amount of psychic defense she offers and is a fluffy psyker for BTs to include. You could also try a Culexus Assassin. Other than that try to use positioning so Smites have to land on your crusader squads so you're removing neophytes whenever possible.

>> No.55191438

Nobody tell him about combi-bolters and storm bolters.

>> No.55191439


>> No.55191464

Space Wolves are the chad marines and every other chapter, save Salamanders and Blood Angels, are a bunch of betas. No wonder non-SW players are extremely threatened by Spess Wolves.

>> No.55191468

Auto Bolt Rifles cost points. Bolt Carbines are free. Because of how point work in 8th giving them different names is useful.

>> No.55191469

My two are good, yeah, but it's still essentially a slightly better twin lascannon. It's about 2/3 of a Laspred in terms of anti-tank, so they tend to pick a target and hammer it for a couple of turns before actually managing to slag the thing, and that's just against regular Predators and Russes and company. I need something to deal with them when they do get close.

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I already did tbhfam
>I used the spoils to buy death guard

>> No.55191487

Imperial knight?

>> No.55191501

He really fucked the face part up, shit.

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Sure mate

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I had a game, a rather interesting game in which I pitted 10 eversor assassins, 2 culexeus assassins, a vindicaire assassin, a chaplain dreadnought, 2 techmarines, Greyfax and a tempestor prime against 1500 points of chaos space marines.
By the bottom of turn 3 all of his infantry, except for one champion, one terminator, and one terminator lord, were dead.
9 possessed vs 7 eversor assassins was something that happened.
a single eversor killed 10 cultists, 6 marines, and 3 terminators without dying.
I lost no models the whole game. What I thought was a joke list was actually frighteningly effective. The real punch came from being able to seal off my advance from deep strikers by spreading out models so he had to land too far away to stop me.

>> No.55191529

what happens when smite needs to target SoS as its the nearest unit.
They cannot be targeted by it.
Also SoS squads reduce the psychic test by 1 PER squad up to -4.
And 5 bolter Sisters are 60points

>> No.55191580

Currently greenstuffing the heads of my last four electroservitors onto their bodies since I'm now back from camping.
Once they're done and I've done some tweaking to the existing ones and stuck them to their bases I have a few Arquebus Rangers to assemble. Not done them before, do I do the normal body/arms subassemblies before priming or just stick 'em all together since the rifle probably won't stand up without the Ranger there?

>> No.55191584

I now realise that assasinspam have become the new cancer.
I am now the very thing I hate

>> No.55191614

It's not my fault 3 eversors put out better damage than 10 vanguard vets for fewer points

>> No.55191631

my positioning was well off like, his magnus can basically go wherever he wants with his 14" movement, fly and psychic power though so he just moved an inch from my land raider, and he just flew out of the combat after the bucket of dice i threw at him left him with 2 wounds.
From what i hear though magnus can go eat a back of dicks and its hard to lose with him unless your up against bobby G etc.

>> No.55191635


furries detected
day of the leash when

>> No.55191669

It's a rarity to find any marines who were around at the time of the massacre, even in dreadnoughts. You'd be hard pressed to field more than a few.

>> No.55191678

>autistically keeps their dark heretical secret, brutally torturing then murdering anyone who knows about it, prioritising it during war even if their sudden abandonment of objectives causes serious losses to their allies
>vs dudes that seriously don't give a fuck and are perfectly fine to walk with their dicks hanging out even though it's heretical
butthurt beta safespace marine detected. go polish your battle plate some more, faggot.

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>In the grim darkness of the far future, there is only war, carnage and the laughter of thirsting gods
>and an unholy tide of assasins on every table, in every LGS, on every continent
>and there shall be no end

>> No.55191710

I agree, which is why I think that it started out as only a handful, 4 or 5. They ran with the IH, with them being some of the only SM units out there willing to accept loyalist defectors to swell their ranks.

Again this is all preliminary so any c/c is welcome

>> No.55191716

does bringing a stormraven, a leviathan and a vindicare make me WAAC ?

>> No.55191718

Well Magnus can only do one smite a turn. But if you really, really want to tell smite to fuck off you can Ally in some conscripts/comissars and use them to bubble-wrap your stuff.

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Would you look at the time, looks like it's shitposting o' clock.
Today's topic : a fight between SW furry's and the DA faggots !

>> No.55191748

The only real abuse with the assassins is Culexus in an all character army. If you're just taking a bunch of Eversors or Vindicares that's not really an issue at all.

>> No.55191755

i bring it at 1250pts

>> No.55191760

>muffled WRRRRRRRRRRRY in the distance

>> No.55191788

As someone who owns them all, the malanthrope or stone crusher parts are my fav. Everything else is dated except the Big D which looks lanky and awful.

The Harridan is the best of the titans by far.

>> No.55191813

either A) Nothing happens and smite cant be cast or B) smite goes "okay lets see who else is close that isnt vaccinated against smitelaria" and zaps them instead

>> No.55191823
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I played a game recently with a few friends. Casual games of 600 points patrol, with 1 troop and 1 hq minimum, 200 points max per unit. one guy brings along guard with 50 conscripts and a commisar, and with the rest of his 520pts he spams mortars and autocannon sentinels

I said "I'm glad I brought this guy, just in case!" whereupon I revealed my shiny Vindicare and he got really fucking mad at me for being a "spammy tryhard fuck" and he refused to play against me.

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what the hell m8

if you have to ask then yeah probably

>> No.55191828

why are people acting like vindicaires are hot shit? They got a points decrease and a massive nerf they're the worst assassin now

>> No.55191850

This was actually answered in an FAQ, and the correct answer is >>55191813

Smite can't be cast because it can't target the closest unit.

>> No.55191855

The importance of Commissars in the metagame is warping things a bit.

>> No.55191857

*worst assassin still

>> No.55191858

the mind of a conscript spammer is a wondrous thing

>> No.55191867
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I cant hear you over my fists of FUCKING IRON

>> No.55191883

>Dood some guy tried to play bog standard guard against me so i brought really broken l33tzors characters to autowin! Im so cool rite guize?

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>> No.55191905

weak b8
apply yourself!

>> No.55191908

Well the spotlight works much better visually, I think you'd be better off making the extend platform outta plasticard so it follows the shape of the base.

>> No.55191913

>butthurt conscript spammer
Absolute kek, anon. Thanks for the hearty chuckle.

>> No.55191918

I can't hear you over the sound of your head hitting the floor.

>> No.55191922

>Tough and hard to remove
>Accurate, long range powerful gun
>only like 80 points

It can't remove 160 pts worth of characters per turn so that makes it bad

>> No.55191924
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Dubs decides my the army I start collecting after the crowning jewels of the Orks have arrived from glorious China

>> No.55191927

9 of my assassins have been painstakingly converted from dark eldar wyches, I don't care if it's OP I have earned the right to use these bastards

>> No.55191931

Great apart from the face.
Hell the original face works pretty well, maybe greenstuff it to have a huge maw that follows his chin.

>> No.55191936

Died a real warrior viking death while russ said "lol ima go rape some deer in the forest or some shit, you all have fun"

>> No.55191937

the world needs more beepboop players

>> No.55191939


>> No.55191953

It's not bad, it's just not that powerful. Take 4 of the damn things if you want they're gonna kill one or two important models at best

>> No.55191964

Ironhands dubs, trips ad mech, quads iron warriors.

>> No.55191974

Necrons with C'tan shards.

>> No.55191982

>shoot once
welp I tried my best guys, see you at lunch

>> No.55191984

Space Wolves

>> No.55191989

An army of space Skaven
100% Converted IG Army-2000 with Skaven

>> No.55191997

30k Salamanders space marines

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>> No.55192026

T'au Empire.

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>> No.55192030

Imperial Knights

>> No.55192039

Genestealer Cunts.

>> No.55192045

Rerolling for this.

>> No.55192050
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>> No.55192051

White scar, never saw any

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>> No.55192064

Feral orks

>> No.55192069

oh shit who dis

>> No.55192075

>missing with 2+

>> No.55192078

I play Death Korps you twat, so no conscripts or sentinels. I just wouldn't play some waacfag like you who probably doesnt even paint his models or have an army theme. Maybe you just deserve to have shitty opponents because your also a cunt.

>> No.55192080

ad mech

>> No.55192088

given that GW dice give a 20-30% ratio of 1s; yes

>> No.55192096

Female Space Marines

>> No.55192097

That's one shitload of shitpost you created there

>> No.55192103

Blood Angels !

>> No.55192106

It's in, Anon; You have to make an army out of Games Workshop dice.

>> No.55192111

Not my fault they're bad at this

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>> No.55192118
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ah yes krieg what an interesting, unique, flavourful army the--

>> No.55192121

I should check my TS dices then

>> No.55192132
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Dark Eldar your welcome m8!

>> No.55192135

>I really don't play scripts, anon! please believe me even though I got really mad when your tryhard friend who spammed scripts in a 600pts patrol match intended purely for lighthearted fun got mad when you countered his faggotry

>> No.55192140

d e n i e d

>> No.55192143

You get trips so you decide

>> No.55192147

What's the cat species of 40k?
Make an army of that

Is it Chaos? You kind of like it, and it kind of needs you but most of the time you just tolerate one another. While cleaning up the shit it leaves

>> No.55192148

A guard army, but all of them must have KKK hoods.

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rate my Night Lord


Death Guard

>> No.55192160

Shit I kinda wish you had one, I love those swords on the Incubi? I'm very unfamiliar with DE

Denied myself

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>> No.55192163

At fucking last!

>> No.55192171
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>Gay Guard

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>> No.55192183

Man that was a anticlimax

>> No.55192194

incubi are the guys with the big 2 handed glaive thingies methinks

>> No.55192204

Just one little grubby, diseased spurt.

>> No.55192219

Well, you can't play conscripts in the korps? Why does spamming a shit unit even matter? You seem like your mad your opponent even showed up to play. Ive flat told riptide spammers to fuckoff, sorry im not dealing with your bullshit game exploitation.

>> No.55192224

post pics boii

>> No.55192225

Only the old ones from 10 years ago do. The new ones don't, probably due to the shape they put on the 1.

t. The date of the original engineering experiment on dakka dakka re: chessex and citadel dice, and some guys who decided to recreate it a week or two ago and posted results on b&c. Modern GW dice actually have close to perfect results with a sample size of 100 or so. I'm sure after 10,000 rolls casino dice and game science dice will have a more perfect spread, but for casual gaming, GWs dice are actually more fair than chessex and cheaper than casino/GS dice. Too bad they're fucking overpriced.

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Just play DE then.

>> No.55192241

>anything else

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>> No.55192245

guess its time for me to literally get new dice

>> No.55192247

I'm throwing my IG army together, so I'm curious, what's the best way to field leman russes?

>> No.55192252

it happens too often

>> No.55192255

I guess since you are definitely 100% telling the truth and have no reason to lie at all, you getting mad at nothing that concerns you or relates to your irl actions will forever be a mystery that stumps even the sleuthist of sleuths. Because you definitely are telling the truth.

>> No.55192263

Just put it in? There's no downside to it for your Inquisition guys

Or just get the Inquisition land raider prometheus for your catholic space nazis

>> No.55192266


>> No.55192269

Can I play this list without being a WAACfag anymore?

>> No.55192271

Battlecannon,Lascannon, Heavy Bolters.
Go classic or go home.

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>> No.55192282

my leman russes were already assembled. I'd do them WYSIWYG, but I don't quite know what the tank weapons look like.

>> No.55192288

They're all a bit weaker than Manticores and Basilisks. But if you insist then go Punisher if you want short range or Battle Cannon for a long range tank. A lascannon and heavy bolters sponsons is generally the way to go in either case.

>> No.55192296

Post pics

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Hey 40kg, I can't really decide on what I want to collect as my first army. Could you guys choose for me? With a game of dubs chooses

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>> No.55192319

oh lord not again

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primaris ultramarines

>> No.55192347

You'd need to be a sleuth to fucking understand your babbling.

>> No.55192349

Any theories on the new AdMech book? Skitarii has no HQ, and there's a lot of overlap between CultMech and Skitarii's troops, and the Knights being mixed in just makes it more weird...

Figure the book will have rules for CultMech armies Or Skitarii armies Or Knight armies and some rule for taking each other as allies, or will they be merged together more?

>> No.55192350

I..Must. resist
I CAN'T resist


>> No.55192363

I would never try to make a high amount of posts to final kill this slow as fuck thread anon, what do you think I am, a monster?

>> No.55192368

I think wraithguard are f'n cool, and your not spamming wraithknights so.....

>> No.55192370


>> No.55192374

Cawl will be mandatory HQ choice


>> No.55192378

Not even slightly.
Lion still knocked him the fuck out and for all the talk of Lion being gay it was Russ who had the man crush on him by the end of the novel

>> No.55192383

Eldar "dread" list, that's pretty cool

>> No.55192386

>retard outs himself

>> No.55192391

A monster you are

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Genestealer Cult.

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>> No.55192399

You can't even think of your own shitposting?

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Oh good! I'm glad to know that, you trustworthy person you.

With that cleared up, make MAGA marines.

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>> No.55192410

Stay mad noone wants to play toys with you.

>> No.55192411

If only you had said an army it would have stopped

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So I think I see heavy stubbers, and I think that's a lascannon on the side weapons...

I'm not sure what the main weapons are, and he provided some substitutable weapons as well.

>> No.55192430

Irony alert.

>> No.55192445

˙ǝɹǝɥʇ ǝʌɐɥ noʎ lǝpoɯ ǝɔiN

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fucking hell, why is it upside down?

Whatever. here's the extra bits.

I plan to repaint them as steel legion.

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If this post is dubs....

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>> No.55192457

>thinks I'm mad
Projecting much
>thinks I'm mad that a conscript spammer got mad that he wasn't allowed to spam his WAAC shit without being countered, in a game among friends where the idea was to play casual games for fun
You are a special kind of butthurt, anon.

>> No.55192465

just glue all the guns on


>> No.55192469

Pro tip, before posting a picture crop it and it will never flip on you>>55192455

>> No.55192471

If only...

>> No.55192476

My friend and I did this. Every weekend for a year we had linked battles across BFG, epic and 40k. It was amazing. We had planetary landings, moon base assaults, boarding actions.

It culminated in an all out war across the 3 games. As the dust settled of the 10 planets we had been fighting over, 2 remained intact, 3 were destroyed after being taken over by chaos and made into daemon world's and then exterminatused. The remaining 5 were in various stages of war or civil war.

Would strongly recommend

>> No.55192477

Yay! Now we can go die.

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grant me death
undo my shackles

>> No.55192490

Alright I'll actually fucking do this. How do I get started 40kg? Are they IG or Tau stand ins? Do I buy into the fantasy line?

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>> No.55192501

>I-im not m-mad. W-why wont a-anyone puh puh pul play with meeee.......


>> No.55192503


You do the /tg/ thing and shitpost all day, don't buy or play just keeping making Squat references. Namely how X faction is next for squatting

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no you wont, but glue guard bits onto these fags

>> No.55192527

Turret Battle Cannon, hull lascannon, and heavy Bolter sponsons. You've also got a hull heavy flamer on there which was probably a proxy for a pintle mounted heavy flamer or something in an earlier edition, but which is now making your Russ invalid.

>> No.55192535

I could be doing something right now. I have a squad that needs extensive greenstuff work. But I'm here instead.

>> No.55192541

- Ebay
- Mantic's squat minis

Probably alot of 3rd party models too. I'd use em as IG or marines

>> No.55192550

>How do I get started 40kg?

Custom dex, kitbashing with AoS and 40k minis

Basic profile M:4" WS:4+ BS:3+ S:3 T:4 W:1 A:1 Ld:7 Sv:4+
Sarges +1 A and Ld
Veterans WS:3+ and SV:3+

Uses SM weapons with a could custom ones.

>> No.55192553

2/10, try harder

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If you want to stay GW. Do it by converting Kharadron Overlords from AoS. They're Steampunk Sky Dwarves and have lots of guns and tech. See pic. If you want to go 3rd party Mantic makes a whole line of sci-fi dwarves, the Forge Fathers.

>> No.55192568


Wops, switched WS and BS

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I'm not playing this thing competitive, so it doesn't have to be WYSIWYG...I was just figuring it would make things easier for my opponents who actually know the army.

He had mentioned one of the weapons was illegal, I can probably take it off no worries.

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You know you must.
Move aside, faggots

>> No.55192596

How fucking late are you? Oh, I know why; You're all dead.

>> No.55192609

Gotcha. Yeah all the Turret guns are currently Battle Cannons and your extra Cannon bits can be used to convert them to Vanquishers.

>> No.55192612

>lasguns can kill land raiders
Sure. If you have 500 guardsmen in rapid fire range, then they could even kill it in one turn!

>> No.55192628

Make an army of space marines but everyone is a penis with a gun

>> No.55192632

alright, good to know, thanks.

that other extra bit I have is a heavy stubber, right?

>> No.55192636

your the faggot, faggot >:(

>> No.55192667

my dudes > your dudes, you faggot

>t. faggot

>> No.55192676

> Walk into the geedubs today
> See the dude that hates me with a burning passion, and has issued death threats to me on two seperate occasions.
> My buddy who is in the USMC isn't there today because it's his drill weekend.
> The dude is literally giving me the deathstare for the entire 5 minutes I was standing in the store.
> I catch him doing this several times in my peripheral vision, every time I'm not looking directly at him.
> Dudes' completely dead silent. Not saying a word.
> Turn to the store manager and say, "Yea I'm just going to go drive to the FLGS. Have a good day"
> Literally sprint to my car and spend the next 30 minutes driving to a store on the other side of town.

What the fuck do I do? The whole reason I started going to my local geedubs and not the FLGS was because of this one asshole who absolutely fucking hates me with every fibre of his being. And now he's just showing up at the geedubs.

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Guys, I'm gonna buy more FW tomorrow, but I can't decide how to split it up. I plan to get a second Malanthrope, but I have enough to buy either a Dimachaeron, Stonecrusher Carnifex, or Barbed Hierodule afterwards. Which one should I go for, or are they all garbage aside from the Malanthrope?

>> No.55192697

Dubs names my penis, 40k related because the birthmark on it looks like the Emperor contemplating how humanity made it past the chimpanzee stage

>> No.55192698

The black one? No, it looks like a Multi-Melta.

>> No.55192700

bring it up with the store owner. If you feel the threats are credible, go to the cops.

>> No.55192711

Dimas look awful imo, I'd get a Barbed

>> No.55192715

ah, alright. thanks mate.

I've been looking forward to picking up these models for a good 6 months now.

>> No.55192720

old heavy flamer
its where the driver should look out

>> No.55192743

I've brought it up with the manager, but the only thing he had to say was that if the dude tried anything, he'd be banned from the store. It really doesn't mean anything to me because the guy is like 6' 8" and literally made of muscle. He could probably fucking murder me in the middle of the store, and the shitty folding knife in my pocket wouldn't save me.

>> No.55192750

why does he hate you

chester bennington

>> No.55192767

Kill hi- er, I mean, you should talk to the store manager. If he's seriously threatened your life before, follow the other anon's advice about getting the police involved.

What did you do this guy? Fuck his wife?

>> No.55192770

Then yeah, talk to the cops. If the dude gave you death threats and he's actually made you feel unsafe...

>> No.55192772

Does he actually look like he can harm you physically? Because honestly, if he's just some fat little neckbeard, I wouldn't be too worried about it anyway. Why the hell does he hate you so much it warranted him to give you death threats, anyway?
Also, do what >>55192700 says. talk to he shop owner about it, and see if you can get it resolved that way.

>> No.55192782

Why does he hate you?

>> No.55192786
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You'll learn what Imperial weapons look like pretty quickly. They tend to be very consistent aside from AdMech.

>> No.55192805

yeah, I've gotten used to most of them with how many imperium players are at my store.

I just haven't paid attention to the big tank guns.

>> No.55192825

What armies do you play?

>> No.55192838

I don't even know, the dude used to be my friend. He even taught me how to play 40k back in old 6th edition. I will admit I used to be a waacfag player when I started, but I've gotten over that since. He just suddenly decided to completely stop talking to me one day, and refused to say even a single word in my presence for several months.

Then one day he just fucking snaps. Basically asks me to go out behind the store with him, and everything about him and what he says to me basically screams that he's just going to shoot me, so I snuck out the door while a concerned friend distracted him.

Iron hands space marines, just all-dreadnought armies.

>> No.55192843

you must have done some shit to make a meathead actually want to kill you

usually these types of people get irrationally angry for a while due to the immense levels of test in their system, and when their temper cools off they forget about it like it wasn't a big deal. but this guy is different. he has a vendetta against you.

what the fuck did you do?

>> No.55192844

im guessing tau and eldar

>> No.55192850

You badmouthed his waifu, didn't you?

>> No.55192879

>all dreadnought armies.
Okay, next time you see the fucker smack him upside the head with your case (it should weight enough to at least stun him) and then proceed to piss and/or shit on him. I 100% guarantee he will never fuck with you again (nor will anyone else)

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I had something happen like that with a friend once. Was best friends for years, like doing lots of shit together then one day we got into a really minor disagreement..., he wrote some crap on a nametag I had and I retaliated by ripping his apart. I don't think much of it but he doesn't talk to me, asks to not work with me on stuff in school and I never tried to patch things up cuz autist and he didn't either... and we just never talked again.

Fuck so weird.

>> No.55192895

Boltstorms are great but they take so fucking long to resolve even when they don't fire twice

Flamestorms make a good second unit of aggressors because you skip rolling to hit, saving you 4 minutes of rolling

>> No.55192898

What the fuck did you do,Anon?

>> No.55192907

Kill him before he kills you.

>> No.55192936

Ask him why he's so angry at you. You won't solve shit by avoiding him like a scared little bitch. Talk him up in the store, when there are lots of other people around. And if you think he's really crazy enough to physically harm you and broad daylight in front of numerous witnesses, then you really should have already contacted the police by now.
Also, did he ever actually threaten to kill you? And I mean, really, literally say "I will fucking kill you" or something similiar?

>> No.55192982

So Barbed Hierodule is the way to go?

>> No.55192989

I have a buddy in the USMC who knows what's up, but I'm too awkward and scared shitless to really do anything about this guy. I've had people do things like this to me as a kid before, and had developed ptsd from it. I don't like getting anywhere near people who have threatened me, and my entire fucking body shuts down like a deer in headlights whenever someone shouts at me.

He hasn't threatened me recently. I saw him a few years ago when he first threatened me, and then a couple months ago when it happened again on a chance encounter. But he hasn't done anything recent at all except for staring angrily.

>> No.55193010


Just stop.

>> No.55193011

>developed ptsd
Fuck, now I'm starting to think you're full of shit trying to ruse a few anons on a Saturday night.

>> No.55193035

You have defined yourself as incapable of being anything other than weak, therefore you are incapable of being anything other than weak. At this point, you are beyond advising.

>> No.55193039

When something like this happens, you call the fucking cops. That's what cops are for.

>> No.55193042

I'm not trying to be a little shit, just having a bad fucking day. Fucking tumbler niggers have ruined things for people with actual problems by romanticizing mental illnesses.

I've got a wonderful therapist, but no amount of therapy lets me have the willpower to just up and confront someone who has wronged me.

>> No.55193090

I was looking at the stats in a vacuum and the assassins didn't seem that impressive, but the mathhammer sheet has them incredibly cost effective and there's the whole targeting characters thing for the Vindicare. Are they really the new cheese, though?

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>> No.55193112

>safespace marine

This happened so, so much.

>> No.55193117

a gym membership, healthy diet, and decent sleep will help you more than therapy. The guy probably hates you because you smell bad.

>> No.55193134

Eversors are stupidly cost effective, but the real standout is Culexus, as you can run a horse shoe of them to protect all your other characters .

>> No.55193144

Anon's want to sound strong and tough, but they'd have probably shit themselves if threatened by some big crazy guy like you describe. You could try to contact him online, see what his grievance is (if he's not just fully, murderously insane) or just get the cops involved. Seriously, what's the harm of talking to the police? It's a big awkward and embarrassing? Better than being FUCKING DEAD, right?

For now you probably have to call the GW ahead of time to see if he's there/learn to recognize his car and avoid shit. But if you live in constant fear, the police are trained to deal with shit like this.

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Anyone know where to get these on the cheap? Can be recast. Way better models than the current horrors

>> No.55193174

shit boi that's more admech than admechs are

>> No.55193196

>Anon's want to sound strong and tough, but they'd have probably shit themselves if threatened by some big crazy guy like you describe.
Or anons react when a story starts to sound like bullshit due to the wording. I'm sorry that some anons are incredulous when they spot telltale signs like that, but we're not here to jerk each other off and hug. If you want, give him a throwaway email and you can rub each other's privates in private.

>> No.55193199

I don't know, the Ordo Genetor exist and are basically the same thing in red robes. Haemonculi are also cool as fuck, though. I know my Genetor army is probably going to use a lot of their parts.

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What are you guys up to tonight?

I'm about to start on my first ever lord of war, a baneblade for the Armageddon 230th - the Emperor's COBRAs

Wish me luck!

>> No.55193223

> Talking to him online
This could work pretty well for me. I wouldn't have the problem of freezing up and getting paralyzed by fear. Although I'd have to find out what his contacts are in the first place.

Same with calling up the store and asking if he's present before driving over. That seems like a great idea to me. If he shows up at one store, I can just drive to the other and have a normal weekend without any problems.

>> No.55193245


Where's Duncan at, anyway? He's posted now new painting vids for two weeks.

>> No.55193263

He's going to have a dude call him up when you get to a store so he can drive over there and spook you.

Be careful anon, he's a dangerous man and might even jum you in a parking lot and you'd NEVER see it coming. You should just stay in your basement forever.

>> No.55193284

He's at the NOVA Open I believe.

>> No.55193287

Don't get so offended, you pussy.

>> No.55193288

That's stretching it a lot dude. He's just there to play 40k like anyone else, and I want nothing to do with him.

>> No.55193298

those models are so good holy shit
sculptor name ? was it diaz ?

>> No.55193301


Ebay ma nigga

>> No.55193310

>You should just stay in your basement forever.
Don't listen to this anon! That's how they got me... way back in 07! I haven't left the basement, or /tg/, since!

>> No.55193320

>he doesn't know

>> No.55193323

If he's just there to play 40k, why did he suddenly turn up at the different game store? Why did he give you massive evil eye for 5 mins straight? He's plotting something, anon. I would be very cautious from this point onward.

>> No.55193328

Swiggity swooty, im comin for that booty.

>> No.55193336
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Scraping moldlines

>> No.55193338

Ah, that makes sense. But until he gets back who will tell me how many coats to use, and what consistency?

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>> No.55193358

Just watch his old videos. Duncan does not age thanks to Tzeentchfuckery and he's permitted only to wear the same t-shirt for weeks because GW's uniform budget is miniscule. You'll never know you were watching old vids at all!

>> No.55193359

Apparently Pete Foley is also at NOVA. People obviously ask him questions.
All I've heard is that he said "Sisters are on the wishlist". Dunno what else if that

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Doesn't know what?

>> No.55193366

Doing that thing where you start on what you think are the finishing touches of a project only to realise they'll take a bit longer than anticipated. I was just going to remove a couple shoukderoads from my Electroservitors, but given that the greenstuff work on the first few dudes is REALLY bad compared to the last half dozen or so I'm wondering whether I should amputate some limbs and try again. I know that I'm going to be replacing a few hands to get rid of either sculpting problems or removing Tzeench trim.
Leaving some greaves and bracers on some guys though, they'd take ages to replace and I may as well use green there as well as just the loincloths.

>> No.55193371

Why doesn't Duncan know where he is? Is he hurt? Was he kidnapped? Where do I leave the money, and how much?

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>> No.55193422

Speaking of Duncan, can't believe I missed this one


>> No.55193444

Wouldn't noise marines want to keep their mouths closed to maximize the concussive forces inside their skulls?

You keep your mouth open during artillery barrages so your eyeballs dont pop out your skull.

>> No.55193445

Alpharius has a friend that does the old horrors, who's catalogue gets posted with his. Also, I agree. Old horrors are way better

>> No.55193498

Filename says he's the first noise marine, he hasn't figured out all the tricks yet. It's the risk of being an early adopter.

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>> No.55193652

holy shit

>> No.55193673

I want duncan to be my valentine, too.

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Julieanna Goddard

>> No.55193817

What's this rumor about a new faction being shown at Nova?

>> No.55193840

Not heard anything. Source?

>> No.55193891

So if you reroll before modifiers now, does that mean that space marines' ATSKNF never triggers, since you'll always be rolling under their leadership before you modify the roll with the losses?

>> No.55193894

When asked about the future of the game and what they would like to do they(GW) said they want to do a new faction. No models, rules or more info than that.

>> No.55193912

I could say I wanted to grow wings, it doesn't mean I have a 10-point plan to do it.

>> No.55193939

They said it's a wishlist item, IE not something actually planned or being worked on just something they would like to do in the future if possible.

They also said a Sisters update was in the same category.

>> No.55193966

Dark Eldar

>> No.55193968

No sisters for another 2 years confirmed LUL

>> No.55193985

Weak bait

>> No.55193999

Sisters was in the same catagory? I am not even a sisters player but Jesus Christ.

>> No.55194079

I can't find anything that says it works differently from other rerolls

>> No.55194105
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Working on the 2nd of 3 highlight layers for my Wyches. 2nd layer is the first dude and 1st layer are the other 2.
>McD coffee
My nigga. Shit's delicious.

>> No.55194174

Any other good stuff?
Anything about xenos?

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>> No.55194318

Hit the gravel with a black wash and it'll look really good.

>> No.55194353

My brimstones are all done now, going to probably assemble my pinks and paint my blues now. Might wanna finish up my screamers and flamers on the side too so I don't have to worry about them anymore.

>> No.55194381

I like the guy across the street looking at it

>> No.55194394

Whoever said these were peach is colorblind. They're clearly maroon

>> No.55194398

Starting a genestealer cult army and I got some models from the Deathwatch Overkill set, including what looks like an acolyte hybrid with a mining laser. I'm looking at the codex, though, and I'm only seeing neophytes being able to take mining lasers. Is it supposed to be a neophyte despite having 3 arms, or am I missing something?

>> No.55194420

And like that, new thread.

>> No.55194466

He's a neophyte, he just has an extra arm to hold the mining laser. I think it's the difference between 3rd and 4th generation hybrids or something.

>> No.55194540

What do you mean anything about xenos? There are two xenos codexes on the way.

>> No.55194643

I mean new info from Pete

>> No.55195282

Crushing Arm or Wrecking Ball Arm for carnifex. I just wish someone would post pics of them attached to the old carnifexes.

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