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Thread Question:
What is the best EDH variation your group plays?

>> No.54141864

>no discord
Jesus farting fuck you salamander, why can't you just fucking put it in there? Clearly everyone likes it, it's just a bunch of butthurt tards who can't handle it because they're not part of the club.

>> No.54141873

>What is the best EDH variation your group plays?
Star is fun

>> No.54141904

>thread question
We haven't played it yet, but I'd like to try EDH Emperor

>> No.54141922

>sperging this hard

I will not help you shill your server.

>> No.54141945

I hope it won't appear in any title for a month so you can finally kill yourself.

>> No.54141949

I love how you're always the first post in a new thread, bitching about the lack or presence of the discord link. Seriously, is that the only reason you come to these threads?

>> No.54141963

You're the one shilling. You do realize that by not including it, you make me evermore powerful, right? If you wanted to kill it, you'd ignore it and let it die a slow painful death, but as long as I know it means something to you, I win.

Keep whining bitch nigga, when your right, your right and I'm always on the money.

And it seems like you people always come to this thread to bitch about me bitching. Why do you hate something people like?

>> No.54141971

Please get a trip so I can filter you.

>> No.54141999

secret partner

>> No.54142031

Get a trip so I can filter you. I bet you play some scrub shit like Godo, or Maralen of the Mornsong.

My Zur's having a giggle m8.

>> No.54142152

Does anyone have any spicy tech for the new Neheb?

I'm planning on retooling my Feldon into it, with Hidestugu as my secret commander. The objective is to ramp stupidly hard, cast Hidestugu, play Neheb the next turn, and just shit on people with a giant fireball. Seize the day is a backup option, and I'd like to just shit out a bunch of damage doublers and wham for the fences. In theorycrafting, the biggest problem is early game, and I'm not too sure how to fix that, outside of rocks, rocks and more rocks.

>> No.54142249

Ignore discord posters.

If one of them manages to make the OP and put the link to their shit there, ignore it.

If they start screaming about how their link isn't there, ignore in smug and SILENT satisfaction.

New question, what are some commanders you HATE and why. I'll start.
The world's at his fingertips but it's always the same linear combo.
Because she never works the way I want her to, as anything other than a poor man's Sidisi.
She's not only bad, she's a flavorless abomination of idiocy. Gitrog is more of a meme but is at least a reasonable commander. Samut is more stapled but has non-terrible showings in Magic Story. I would be happy if Kalenme was never mentioned ever again, but I'm not going to get that so I might as well bitch about it.

>> No.54142274
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What are the "official" rulings on bringing in cards from outside the game?

>> No.54142292

Playgroup agreement on scope.
Usually a 15 card sideboard is accepted, rarely some people allow from entire collection.

>> No.54142305

In casual your entire collection I guess.

During tournaments your sideboard.

>> No.54142306

I can't see him working out of a Feldon shell, but you seem to have a good general idea of where to go.

Consider Malignus and Goblin Game to also make Neheb generate inordinate amounts of mana. Of course, run Fork and that new one (Reiterate? Reverberate?) and any other similars since it's usually better to spend 2 to copy a spell rather than spending +2 to X. Also, why Fireball when you can Comet Storm? Fireball divides.

>> No.54142316

>New question, what are some commanders you HATE and why.
UW Daxos. Every single time it hits the field, you end up eating an unblockable attack, exiling something awesome, and getting it played against you.

>> No.54142332

You really should take your meds and go to sleep

>> No.54142397

I think I misspoke, I used "fireball" as a general word for an X damage kill-the-table comet storm spell, but you get the gist.

How do I actually get my kill spells? Is there any way to reliably get that stuff, or do I just have to pray for magical christmasland? Neheb seems much better in the 99 of a boros or rakdos deck than he does as a commander, but goddamn I want to have him in the command zone all the time.

Anyways, Malignus is a fantastic idea. I think Quietus Spike also procs his mana generating ability. Is there any equipment/red auras that gives a creature indestructible, or is Eldrazi/Akroma's monument my best bet?

>> No.54142399

You can't.

>> No.54142409

You can't, unless it's explicitly agreed upon before hand.

Both wrong, you need to ask first, no sideboards are allowed in tournaments.

>> No.54142510

People are saying sideboard but wouldn't it be exiled cards?

>> No.54142534

"Exile" is an in-game zone, and all old wordings of "remove _ from the game" have been oracled to "exile _".
"Outside the game" means exactly as it says, a card that was not in the current game to begin with.

>> No.54142539

I think exile is technically "removed from the game, but still part of it, for the purposes avoiding of shenanigans". As in, "removed from the game" is errat'd to "exile zone".

>> No.54142605
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>Guy at LGS playing """""""wacky"""""" U/R
>Pulls off some Warpworld cast through Hive Mind copied 3 times over shit(or something very similar)
>Sits there with shit eating grin
>Whole table (6 players) just votes his turn doesn't count
>Leaves after he realizes the owner isn't kicking 5 people out over casual EDH

How do you feel about this /edh/? Did we violate the spirit of the game?

>> No.54142617

I'm pissed fa/tg/uys! Why the fuck is land destruction and taxation effects so frowned on in a boros deck for commander if that's what the fucking colors do! Like there's an unspoken rule about not using LD and if you do you're un-fun. That's what red and to a lesser extent white do. It's like saying ramping is frowned upon so nobody can ramp because it's unfair and puts the caster way ahead of curve.

My play group gets so butt mad about a single stone rain, or demolish. Fuck, our maelstrom wanderer player got so pissy when I ghost quartered his gaeas cradle (from my mono G Titania) I can't imagine how it is for other boros players. I'm currently brewing a boros deck but it's just so damn hard to find an efficient game plan that won't distance me from my play group.

Is my playgroup just a bunch of shitters? Should I just build it the way I want to?

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>Looking through some old unsleeved cards.
>Suddenly nudge into a card with a nail.
>Its dented.

Also I just cracked upon a foil liliana of the veil. Should I sell or put into my favourite deck for flavour/bragging rights?

>> No.54142642

You leave Godo out of this!

>> No.54142649

Ah, I thought it was the same as for 60-card tournaments but I guess not.

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Nah I've been with plenty of groups who do this. Same sort of scenario to boot

>Goblin Game copied ten times
>Give him a chance to take it back
>Tell him we're not going to do it
>He insists we do it
>"It's fun!"
>Skip his turn and play without him for the rest of the game
>Our faces

>> No.54142696

If no one else was having fun, and he consistently pulls that sort of shit, then yeah, that's fine.

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Sell it and build a whole new deck. I cracked a foil Prime Time and sold it immediately. It was banned a few days later. Was able to get a lot of smaller stuff I needed for other decks.

>> No.54142717

The only endgame for chaos decks is making your opponents give up. Sounds like he did that, but then REEEEEEE'd when everyone else wanted to keep playing their game.

However, your correctness is relative to how autistic that guy was.

>> No.54142746

It was jon who did that wasn't it?

>> No.54142751

>How do I actually get my kill spells?

Use any or all of the following
> Saturation
Having multiple options to kill with is fairly important. It's why you'd run Goblin Game alongside Hidetsugu, or even Fireball alongside Comet Storm
Classic wheels will actually draw you a lot of cards. Looting is fairly similar. When you're playing what amounts to a combo deck you don't care that most such effects are card-negative or card-neutral, you just want to get the RIGHT cards
>Colorless Draw and draw-like effects
Never underestimate the power of Moonring Mirror; it starts at "weird, personal howling mine" and if you wheel to hell the damn thing goes fucking insane. Problem: others may not underestimate Moonring Mirror either. Scroll Rack and even Howling Mine are also fair calls
>Planar Portal
I used to consider the portal an EDH staple, and it never really let me down, at least not when I was going for big mana. I still consider it in any deck that needs some specific cards and might have trouble getting them, which seems to describe the situation you're in.

Ramp hard to ramp even harder; this is the way of Neheb.

>> No.54142803

MLD makes it so no one gets to play the game. When the point of making a deck is to play the game, then putting all your energy into making sure no one else can play is rather frustrating.

That being said, targeted land destruction shouldn't be an issue. It is frustrating, such as when someone destroys my bounce land when I only have three lands on the field, but getting rid of particularly powerful nonbasics is really the only smart thing to do. Try proxing a Pentacle and see how soon they play TLD.

>> No.54142820

>moonring mirror
Wow, that's spicy as Fuck. To make sure I get it : moonring your day exiled cards to your hand, then your hand is exiled by it, so if you do it again you get your hand back.

Jesus I'm going to memory jar the shit out of some people. I owe you one man.

>> No.54142830


Nah, twas a rando at Uni.

>> No.54142941

Why stax is no treated the same way? It's so much worse,

>> No.54142972

Cause if you team up and kill the stax player (or the stax pieces), the game goes on. There's no out after MLD

>> No.54142988

Stax makes it more difficult to play and requires a bit of thought to play around. MLD is the equivalent of telling people that they shouldn't even think about playing for a while.

>> No.54143012

I'm not building a LD edh I'm building Archangel Avacyn/ the purifier edh. Which happens to contain 3-5 LD cards (not counting my wasteland/mine/quarter package) but there is no recursion for it. It's whole focus is basically stall out long enough to play angel tribal

>> No.54143031

The game is over turn on turn 3 against teferi Stax, but you need to wait another 30 mins for him to close a game. Someone at the table can maybe interrupt him but you still need to endure his turns and doing nothing for a lot of time. MLD is either you draw or not, you can recover pretty quickly, here it's a slog no matter what.

>> No.54143042

MLD is one spell that instantly wins the game due to unequal setup. Stax is procedural and "equal" in the sense that it effects everyone. A new player sees Armageddon, sees your mana rocks, and goes "fuck". A new player sees a stax lock and needs it explained before they get mad.

>> No.54143081

I was just referring that no matter how little MLD there is, people get fanny flustered over it. It's not like I'm Avacyn angel of hope + worldslayer or Armageddon.

>> No.54143130

Your playgroup has a very thin skin it seems. It is a one thing getting mad over unexplained Obliterate "for teh lulz", but if they are mad about losing any lands at all, or tactical MLD, maybe you should find different people to play with.

>> No.54143166

yeah, any hand you exile to trade with the mirror becomes part of what you'll get the next time you trade hand with mirror.

>> No.54143224

>There's no out after MLD
There is exactly the same out as against Stax, except it's even easier. Once a stax lock has you to zero permanents, its lock pieces don't go away (well, maybe the smokestack does but the rest, taxing your spells and preventing your untaps don't), they will be there as you try to recover and fight back, holding you down and making it so you can't do what you want to do. Once MLD fires, it's done. If you actually held lands, had rocks and dorks yourself that survived, had a reasonable board beyond your lands, or fuck it all get a little lucky and draw some more mana, you can regrow quite reasonably. Sure, the player that resolved the MLD will probably be poised to develop faster and win, but a team effort can often take them down and if they fired off their armageddon because lolrandumb it's a moderate irritation at worst.

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>goblin game copied 10 times
>hurrr it's a wierd card you are gone
that's not wacky that's a wincon
if you told him to fuck off then you better be doing it for every inf combo as well
it's not even that hard to resolve

>> No.54143579

Anyone have any secret tech for Mina and denn? My variant focuses on land creatures and buffing them/making them fight non land creatures

>> No.54143927

Imo it's not like warp world where resolving three times does nothing. If it actually does damage to a player, maybe it should be counted. However goblin game is fucking annoying so idk

>> No.54144033

If you didn't want to do it you should surrender, he was probably trying to kill you in a stupid way but still. Telling someone who wins the game, or is trying to get a huge advantage "no you don't, fuck of" makes you a much bigger asshole than him.

>> No.54144111

Any opinions on this?
Not really sure how the mana base should be, honestly feel like I could get away with mostly basics and filters, but I don't know what I'm doing.

>> No.54144153


Wishes used to be able to grab exiled cards before they were errata'd

I remember because you could do this cool trick where you would cast cunning wish with mirari in play, snag a sweet card from your sideboard with one and get back an exiled cunning wish with the other, and basically tutor your whole sideboard

>> No.54144233

>Imo it's not like warp world where resolving three times does nothing.

That has the potential for a lot of ETB triggers. Even Scrambleverse could have important decisions to make in between each copy.

>> No.54144314

You leave the bandit king out of this

>> No.54144318


You can't run immortal servitude

>> No.54144682

>Whole table (6 players) just votes his turn doesn't count
>>Tell him we're not going to do it

You should have addressed whatever deck the guy was playing before your started getting halfway through a game and deciding "Nah fuck that we don't like your play, take it back" Is definitely a cunt move, either play it out or just scoop and start a new game if it has you that upset.

>> No.54144713

You are right, I'm an idiot, I'll swap that for Sheoldred or something

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Funny foreign cards, go.

>> No.54144777

>Play EDH with 2 other friends
>One is actively competitive while the other just plays casually
>Friends play proxies which leads to competitive friend having extremely powerful threats with easy ways of getting them out while other friend is obsessed with flavour and is almost never a threat
>Always having to target competitive friend otherwise he'll completely take over the board
>Gets mad that I never attack casual friend

Anyone else have this problem at your table?

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>> No.54144960

>tfw can't buy this anywhere
Life is pain

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>translators left off the line that actually counters a spell
>card literally does nothing other than reduce its own mana cost

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>> No.54145142

It's all over the place it just costs 20 bucks.

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>> No.54145183

Oh that's going in Grenzo

Thank you for this beautiful piece of tech

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>> No.54145187

Spicy tech cards under a dollar?

I bought Oath of Lieges a while back for 50 cents and love that card. Changes the dynamic of the game drastically.

Also Martyr's Cause is a great card, super spicy.

>> No.54145188

>walker of chains in the hall of intestines/viserca

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It could be said that he won and we're just gonna finish up our game then. We all surrender to him but want to continue with what we have since it wouldn't effect the board state in the slightest. This man also used Topsy Turvy in his decks and would sneak it in moments before games started. His shenanigans were hardly tolerated at that point.

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>Irritated Devil
>he's only mildly irritated

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>card is Showstopper
>this translation transliterates back as "Circus with Funny"

>> No.54145330

"Schluss mit lustig" is german for "playtime is over", there is no Circus.

>> No.54145341


Germans really busting those stereotypes wide open.

>> No.54145528

What does that mean?

Do your cards have different flavor text too?

>> No.54145691

>What is the best EDH variation your group plays?
1v1 French Rules.
The closest we'll ever be to playing Vintage.

>> No.54145824

Spanish Life Fast and Die Young are Carpe Diem and Tempus Fugit because the translator if a huge pompous faggot.

>> No.54145854

>Spanish Life Fast...Carpe Diem
It's also the name of Sieze the Day... in German. Spanish is something else.

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>Meet Christopher Moeller at a Con to get a comic signed.
>See Sylvan Ranger print
>Turns out WotC edited the art to make her less smug and small breasted
>Chris says it's not the only, first or last time they do that.
Fucking puritans, wether it's the WBC or SJWs they can't help ruining fun.

>> No.54145956

Choosing someone's turn "doesn't count" during a game is some pansy ass bullshit that isn't fair at all.
Should have played it out, or conceded and then refused to play against the randumb deck in future games.

>> No.54145962

no. The flavor texts are just awkward translations.

>> No.54145970


Germans have no fun. That's the stereotype. Tacking on, "There is no circus"...

Eh, fuck it. Joke is gone.

>> No.54145984

>denying us our smug tiddy elfs

Love Moeller's art, though. Jelly you got to meet him.

>> No.54146216
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Out of curiosity, who do you guys figure is objectively the strongest Commander of each singular color (you may include Colorless if you feel so inclined)?

>> No.54146235

I wouldn't exactly consider Aggravated Assault "spicy," but it does seem like a necessity, as does any form of additional combat phase and/or damage doubler you can get.

>> No.54146270

Planechase EDH is wild and wacky, though I think I need to remove some cards to make the games faster rather than longer. Stax planes aren't very fun. Naya immediately breaks with cloudstone curio, though.

>> No.54146310

Obligatory vote for NewNeheb in monored.

>> No.54146352

>tfw thinking of getting into EDH
>Doing Animar
I-I think i'm gonna do it folks.
99 bucks and it's still a Budget Build
Being a poor spike is truely suffering.

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>> No.54146363

Old Ulamog
Ashling the Pilgrim
Vendellion Clique
Ezuri, Renegade Leader
Elesh Norn, Sexiest Praetor
Phage, the Unplayable.

>> No.54146364

>playing creatures

>> No.54146378

What makes your build special?

>> No.54146380

W: Darien, Kemba, new Odric
U: Azami or Walker Teferi
B: mono-B Sidisi or Skithiryx
R: Krenko, mono-R Daretti, Purphoros
G: Azusa, old Omnath, mono-G Selvala, Yisan
C: new Kozilek or old Ulamog

>> No.54146451 [DELETED] 

Haha, OP you seem to have forgotten the discord link. Here it is:

/tg/ EDH General Discord

It's an honest mistake though so don't beat yourself up about it.

>> No.54146453

>Thalia, Guardian of Thraben/Kytheon
>Grand Arbiter Augustin IV/Geist
>Teysa, Orzhov Scion/Karlov
>Niv Mizzet, the Firemind/Keranos
>Olivia Voldaren/Mogis
>Ruric Tar/Rhada
>Queen Marchesa/Bruse+Tymna
>Kinalos and Tiro/Bruse+Thrasios
>Scion of the Ur-Dragon/Scion of the Ur-Dragon
>Karn/Ulamog, the Ceaceless Hunger

>> No.54146466


White - Sram (?) or maybe a hatebear
Blue - Teferi PW
Black - Sidisi, Undead Vizier
Red - Daretti, Scrap Savant followed by Slobad
Green - Selvala, Heart of the Wilds

Azorius - GAAIV
Orzhov - Teysa, Orzhov Scion, Karlov for 1v1
Boros - Brion Stoutarm, maybe Basandra
Selesnya - Captain Sisay
Dimir - Dralnu, Lich Lord with Oona right behind
Izzet - Keranos or Nin. Jhoira might have a shot if your meta is low on interaction.
Simic - Thrasios. Partners this strong were a bad choice. If that doesn't count then Zegana and Momir Vig duke it out.
Rakdos - Grenzo, Dungeon Warden
Golgari - Gitrog, but Meren, Jarad, and Nath have strong builds.
Gruul - Ruric Thar with Radha dominating 1v1

Bant - Rafiq of the Many
Esper - Zur the Enchanter
Grixis - Jeleva but she can be swapped with any other Grixis commander in most of her builds.
Jund - Prossh. Jund has very few non-sac options.
Naya - Marath
Abzan - Karador
Jeskai - Narset
Sultai - Tasigur but nowadays it's just Thrasios. Leovold, Sidisi, Damia, and the Mimeoplasm are all very strong too and can hold their own.
Mardu - Alesha, Who Smiles at Death. Kaalia in 1v1. Marchesa is okay too.
Temur - Animar. Riku has a few strong but very niche builds for Twin. Maelstrom is the boogeyman of casual tables but isn't really that scary.

Any 4-color deck

Five-Color - General Tazri

Colorless - Kozilek, Butcher of Truth. Karn, Silver Golem has some nice things going for him too.

>> No.54146471

Spikes havent been able to play their beloved Draw-Go since RTR rotated.

>> No.54146472

Never seen so many misguided opinions.

>> No.54146505

Nothing really other than it's budget-y.

The cost is now at 75$ now, and there's probably even more budget options for me.

>> No.54146507

>getting into EDH to spike it up

The format doesn't need another one of you. Put your modest hobby budget to better use.

>> No.54146534

>Rakdos - Grenzo, Dungeon Warden
my dude. nobody ever seems to talk about him. first deck i built.

>> No.54146539

Yeah, I agree. Discord is a mistake.

>> No.54146543

Only Roon (Jenara), Rafiq (Jenara again), Doran (Karador) and 1v1 Animar (Wanderer) are wrong.

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>not treating EDH as Legacy-lite

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>tfw constantly torn between if I want more fun decks or if I want more competitive decks
>don't even fucking have one yet
I bought the anthology, but I'm a bit hesitant to drop some 250 dollars to upgrade one singular deck. I truly do want to build Kaalia of the Vast. In no other format can you just fucking drop angels/demons/dragons for free from your hand, or have a plethora of otherwise unusable reanimate spells like unburial rites as backup.

>> No.54146715

the key is to make something that has big splashy, possibly game winning cards. but also stupid shit. you don't aim for 100% or 0%. you aim for 50-75%.

>> No.54146736

My Budget is nowhere near modest.

I'm doing EDH because it's pretty good for the cost. I'm probably not going to be all spikey because it seems like CEDH is pretty unbalanced.

>> No.54146910

>Niv Mizzet

Are all wrong for multiplayer and it isn't really a debate.

>> No.54147095

The rulings from cards like this is that they are side board only in tournament's for brevity but can be any card you want from your personal collection if not at like, a grand prix.

>> No.54147178

>Last Chance
Are there any cards that force an opponent to cast one of your cards?

>> No.54147191

Build competitive and play to your playgroup's level.

>> No.54147349

Hive Mind

>> No.54147512

Actually that's "Irritating devil"

>> No.54147568
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Does it cause you bodily harm being this repugnant of a human being?

>> No.54147793

legit doing that right now.
People know what she's about. As long as you don't put in protections for Kaalia shes easy to control.
She's able to be played competitively but you're mostly tutoring for master of cruelties or Avacyn/Armageddon combo.
And the rest is just black tutors, re-animators and haste outlets.

I'm building her to show off all the foils I got from from the vault: angel.

>> No.54147848

Don't reply to discordposters
Report discordposters
Hide discordposts

>> No.54147918


>Being this upset because people have created a community.

When my mom and dad found my 40gigs of hardcore loli doujins I thought I would never have family again, but thanks to the /edhg/ discord I have people to talk to! Sure, I still can't go within 30 feet of a school, and I have to play online because there might be children at the game store but at least I have people to talk to again. So FUCKING INCLUDE the link in the OP, you have no right to persecute me like this you fucking nazi faggot

>> No.54148041

No serously id like to filter you aswell

>> No.54148077

Why to you givethem (You)s?

>> No.54148123

The fuck, are you 12yo or what?

>> No.54148126

At this point, I'm genuinely unsure who this bait is even meant to be catching

>> No.54148631
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>> No.54148664

>tfw opponent tries to pact kill hivemind
>I skip my next two turns with Chronatog and everyone else loses, because the guy is too retarded to watch the boardstate.
Would have been same if I had Sundial on the field.

>> No.54148727

Why would you put that in a deck in the first place?

>> No.54148804

>not playing Chronatog in every blue deck to prevent upkeep effects

>> No.54148860
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You guys lost the game so hard you had to kick the player out and pretend it didn't happened.
That's the most humiliating defeat I ever heard in MtG.

>> No.54148947

It goes well with Smokestack, Stasis and Solitary Confinement for example.

>> No.54149204

I have been trying to get my group to play Star whenever we have 5 people, but never any takers. Everyone wants to play Sheriff, but that sounds gay as fuck, so I keep vetoing that idea. So we just end up playing normal. Life sucks.

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>> No.54149275

So no one wants to play your new game, and you refuse to play their new game. Have you considered that maybe you're the problem?

>> No.54149545
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lets play another one of these dumb games

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>> No.54149719

Stuffy Doll.

>> No.54149759

Donate Sen Triplets then Mindslaver them.

>> No.54149796

Well that's a really terrible and really funny way to play Breya.

>> No.54149944
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>> No.54150060
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Made an image for posterity

>> No.54150086

I got a giggle. Thanks

>> No.54150117

>40gigs of hardcore loli doujins
pls share

>> No.54150233
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>this card is banned

>mycosynth lattice isn't


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>> No.54150312

timewalk is banned

>> No.54150322

Extra turn cards

>> No.54150379

This, you get infinite turns without any real effort

>> No.54150384

>im autistic

>> No.54150394
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>Thread Question:
I honestly wanted to play Planechase more, but the dice hates my group and we always end stuck on pic related.
Secret partners is kinda fun.

>> No.54150428

Had that plane last week, ended up dealing 12 damage to someone before we got away from it.

Still planechase is pretty fun if the people interact with the planes.

>> No.54150430

Repercussion and damage-based wipes, everyone gets burned sorceries like Flame Rift become rituals with him too.

That is one of the best planes to land onto tho'

>> No.54150651

We dont play planechase anymore. My decks just happen to abuse some of those gimics pretty hard which caused too much butthurt. The last time I played I got some part of vryn that gave my wheels rebound, I shot off a windfall and wof, and then hit some staircase plane that if I remember right was stairs to infinity. Then I used my mana up drawing cards and the wheelstorm+nekusar melted everyone. I also got the hp gained per spell cast with an aetherflux resevior the game before so I miss planechase.

>> No.54150730

Trail of the Mage-Rings is some BS.

>> No.54150820 [DELETED] 

>/tg/ EDH General Discord

>> No.54150887

While I agree, I also think that is the point of planechase.

>> No.54151221
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>not treating edh as canadian highlander 2.0

>> No.54151250


Just go on Sad Panda

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>> No.54151548


Make sure to order a CoD-shirt and cargo shirts with the cards. :^)

>> No.54151670

Good on you for not being a shill OP and not including that cancerous discord.

>> No.54151767

I NEED FLICKER EFFECTS IN W/B that aren't Eldrazi Displacer, Flickerwisp, Gift of Immortality or Restoration Angel.

Also my reanimation package is Animate Dead, Karmic Guide, Liliana, Heretical Healer, Phyrexian Delver, Phyrexian Reclamation, Profane Command, Reanimate, Reveillark, Victimize, and Whip of Erebos

Just buildin some etb abuse nawmean?

>> No.54151832

Ghost way and eerie interlude to save your squad.

>> No.54151840

Sun Titan + sac outlet

>> No.54151862

second sunrise and faiths reward

>> No.54151884

Do you just use whatever basic lands you have lying around or do you pick specific art to fit the theme of your deck?

>> No.54151955

Colorless - Kozilek, the Great Distortion

White - Sram, Senior Edificer
Blue - Teferi, Temporal Archmage
Black - Sidisi, Undead Vizier
Red - Purphoros, God of the Forge
Green - Yisan, the Wanderer Bard

Azorius - Grand Arbiter Augustin IV
Orzhov - Karlov of the Ghost Counil
Boros - Aurelia, the Warleader
Selesnya - Selvala, Explorer Returned
Dimir - Oona, Queen of the Fae
Izzet - Mizzix of the Izmagnus
Simic - Edric, Spymaster of Trest
Rakdos - Grenzo, Dungeon Warden
Golgari - Meren of Clan Nel Toth
Gruul - Ruric Thar, the Unbowed

Bant - Derevi, Empyrial Tactician
Esper - Zur the Enchanter
Grixis - Jeleva, Nephalia Scourge
Jund - Prossh, Skyraider of Kher
Naya - Marath, Will of the WIld
Abzan - Ghave, Guru of Spores
Jeskai - Narset, Enlightened Master
Sultai - Tasigur, the Golden Fang
Mardu - Alesha, Who Smiles at Death
Temur - Animar, Soul of Elements

Sans White - Ydris, Maelstrom Wielder
Sans Blue - Saskia the Unyielding
Sans Black - Thrasios, Triton Hero + Akiri, Line-Slinger
Sans Red - Thrasios, Triton Hero + Tymna the Weaver
Sans Green - Breya, Etherium Shaper

Five-Color - General Tazri

>> No.54152003

i usually just throw in random lands when i first build a deck but once i decide i really like a deck ill get specific lands that i think fit the decks theme

>> No.54152015

I am a psychopath that doesn't use matching basics

>> No.54152027

I have 30 of each Unhinged full arts, and 40 of each Snow Covered land.

>> No.54152242
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My reach exceeds my grasp. There's a whole set of cards I would love to play if not for either price or (in the case of Welder) group level. Mindslaver is in a bit of a grey zone.

>> No.54152245

Ok, we have a Sphinx Tribal commander now, Hydras have plenty of inherent tribal support and decent options as technical tribal commanders that support exactly what they want to do, Angels have a ton of options, as do Dragons and Demons and even Spiders. Can we get a legendary Wurm already and a Kraken/Leviathan tribal commander please?
Generic green or Simic ramping as the only thing supported by the commander is boring and unimaginative.

>> No.54152335

>wotc didn't help wurms in Amonkhet because they're making a wurm tribal for C17

One can only hope.

>> No.54152532

autist crybabbies itt

>> No.54152581
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What are some cool things I can do with this card?

>> No.54152616

Copy Dark Depths. Copy Biovisionary.

>> No.54153009
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I'm really itching to make an Eggs deck, but can't decide between Breya and Sydri. Is Red worth the inclusion of Scrap Mastery, Wheel, and Pyrite Spellbomb?

>> No.54153059
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Can anyone identify something in this pic? Found on a local sales site

>> No.54153073

It does give you a load more eggs too, plus Breya gives you more ways to crack those eggs. I'd say go Breya.

>> No.54153087

basically yes. breya is the eggs commander

>> No.54153091

>Chub Toad
Found yourself a Gitrog Monster alter so thats nice.

>> No.54153094

use Unearth and Exhume (and Entomb/Buried Alive of course)

>> No.54153221

lots of trash

marsh vipers, tarpan, firebreathing. unsummon, venom, johtull wurm, boomerang, mogg flunkies, lure, orcish conscripts, frog tongue, cat warriors, brothers of fire, disenchant, manta riders

>> No.54153295

Our general rule for things of this, or other "I combo this with this, and cast fireball for 60 targetting each player." is "Acknowledge him as the winner, then continue to play the game without them.".

>> No.54153309

Breya is busted and thus boring.

>> No.54153334
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Does this work?

it says: you may chose new targets, so can i target the vizier with the copy?

>> No.54153347

No, since the ability specifies "another" and thus the Vizier is not a valid target for its own ability under any circumstance.

>> No.54153390
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There are options though.

>> No.54153399

Sounds like you're the problem friendo. If the majority of people want to do something fun and not play your shitty variant, you shouldn't be a killjoy.

>> No.54153405
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and thanks for that creature, i think i'll go for both

>> No.54153458

i'm building a three color deck for the first time. there are so many non-basic land options i don't know what to go with. i feel like having all non-basics is going to be cripplingly parasitic. which ones should i avoid?

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>> No.54153518


>> No.54153590

Avoid two color slow fetches. Mountain Valley, Grasslands, Flood Plain, Bad River, Rocky Tar Pit.

>> No.54153618
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Hit me up with your best creature that kills creatures on the board when it comes out, preferably either wiping the board completely or killing 1 or 2. CMC doesn't matter, it'll be cheated out

I'm in cancer colors (BUG)

I'm running Butcher of Malakir in that slot right now, but she's a bit too situational since she needs a sac outlet and some fodder

>> No.54153656
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Jafar the great

>> No.54153716

You're enforcing a de facto "No Combo" policy. Why? Is your playgroup too stupid to play against combo?

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>> No.54153762
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>Future Sight
Awww yeah.

>> No.54153899

What is actually supposed to be funny about this? It's exactly as straightforward as Inquisition of Kozilek.

>> No.54153922

But you didn't expect it.

>> No.54153964
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>Mountain Valley
how many basics should i have though? if my deck is 65% green, 20% white, and 15% black...should i reduce the number of white/black duals and add more basic forests? i just literally took all g/w/b lands and shoved them in.

>> No.54153991

Best way to build GB Glissa? Stax?

>> No.54153995

>have a foil german athreos
>just sitting around collecting dust

I wish he was a better commander. ;-;

>> No.54154020
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>tfw you always have one and only one deck ready to go
>it always has mana crypt, top, ancient tomb, vault, and ring because there is literally no reason not to run them
Eat shit

>> No.54154051

Planechase is a lot better when you sculpt the planar deck to accommodate your regular players and yourself but not cooperate with them too much. Case in point, I'm okay with something like Naar Isle in the deck, but Meren pops up frequently enough that Grixis does not get invited. The idea of leaving Vryn in the mix with a wheels deck would be another huge no-no.

>> No.54154056

Themed lands i like, each one is different

>> No.54154093

>I've got 300 cards on the same sleeves (bought a case of DS Matte Jet), with which I can build Queen Marchesa, Saskia, Karlov, Teysa, Gisa, Sidisi and Mogis.
>When we've done a couple games and everyone's swappng decks, the autists & cancer as depicted in this image accuse me of sideboarding againt their hot new tech before I even see what deck they're playing next
Why is EDH so full of retards?

>> No.54154094

Yes, I can definitely identify some Magic cards in this image.

What the fuck are you actually trying to ask?

>> No.54154097

Just build golgari control and ignore her ability. First strike and dt make her an amazing blocker

>> No.54154124

because you're taking up everyone's time by building your deck when other people are ready to play

>> No.54154134

Fuck. You got me.

>> No.54154141

You really don't need that many non-basics unless you're running a Hermit Druid deck. Take out Brushland, Caves of Kolios, City of Brass, Fortified Village, Gavony Township, Gilt-Leaf Palace, Llanowar Wastes, Murmuring Bosk, Sungrass Prairie, Tainted Field, Tarnished Citadel, Urborg, Wooded Bastion. Add around 5 of each basic.

>> No.54154172

>take out Urborg

What the fuck are you doing, anon.

>> No.54154180

If your playgroup is Johnny enough, they don't actually care about "winning", they just wanted to do the combo. If you give them the burger king crown and acknowledge they did it, they shouldn't care much if everyone else keeps playing. It'd be Spikes that'd feel like it cheapens the victory for everyone to keep playing like it didn't happen.

>> No.54154204

thanks for this answer. what's wrong with urborg though? is fixing my opponents mana an issue?

>also it's a doran deck so i'm keeping the treefolk land no matter what.

>> No.54154237

>The idea of leaving Vryn in the mix with a wheels deck would be another huge no-no.

Sometimes it's fine. You should let there be a plane or two that one player would really love to be on, but play it Eternity Map style, so other players can deliberately attempt to get away from it as soon as it's nearby.

>> No.54154238

Well since I didn't see Coffers I assumed you had a problem with using it. In a deck with 15% black cards you don't need to fix for black.

>> No.54154255

>City of Brass


>> No.54154266

You are fucking wrong though. The number of basics you run in your deck should be based on how many pips you are running. If you want turn 3 necropetence, turn 4 cryptic, turn 5 Kiki, you can't pull that off by running a shit ton of basics. Advising people on mana base without seeing the rest of the deck is dumb as hell, and leads me to believe you don't know what you are talking about.

>> No.54154300

This guy is, as others have said, full of shit.

>> No.54154323

>Also, it's an abzan deck so I'm keeping the best forest in the game.

>> No.54154324
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Massacre Wurm
You're an alright guy

>> No.54154401

>order a bunch of cards today
>forget to order spore frog again

literally every time i order cards

>> No.54154466
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>> No.54154472

But where's the fun in that?

>> No.54154537

I finish building before they finish swapping their shit from deck to deck. "Take out white, add red" is not rocket science.

>> No.54154662

that's me and Dread Return

it's funny how as i've gotten better at MTG, that spell has gone from "seems kinda meh" to "holy fuck this card is insane, how did i ever live without it"

>> No.54154926

ya dread return is dope, its in the same deck spore frog is supposed to be in, meren

>> No.54154953
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It ain't easy being green.

>> No.54154982

Spore frog has saved my ass so many times.
Also, trying to decide between tariel boardwipes/reanimator or sheoldred big black mana any recomendations?
Was also wanting to play 5c slivers but im not sure if i should wait to see what the rest of the tribal precons look like.

>> No.54155011
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A lot of these are tied with other cards.

>> No.54155015

>no sideboards are allowed in tournaments.
Are there Commander tournaments? EDH has always been casual.

>> No.54155079
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> 1: make a meme tribe
> 2: build a pre-con for it
> 3: ???
> 4: profit

Swing and miss, WotC. Swing and miss.

>> No.54155111

Wow, it's shit

>> No.54155125

I refuse to believe that's real.

>> No.54155139

>GW Cat tribal
>no Scarred Puma

Why even live.

>> No.54155143
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>almost strictly worse Xenagos

>> No.54155174

0/10 would not buy.
Avatars don't even synergize.

>> No.54155179

>free Giant Growth literally every one of your combats, even when it's in Command Zone
>3 mana to double power and give trample
better than Xenagos overall imo, trample is a lot more relevant than haste

>> No.54155212

I'll call bullshit.

>> No.54155216
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Oh shit, didn't se trample and multiple cats being a possibility, still wierded out by cat-tribal.
Hoping for Eldrazi

>> No.54155261

>cat tribal

It seems they are trying to avoid another Atraxa situation.

>> No.54155266

Everyone told me that it was bullshit when I picked up how wierd it was that there was a new dragon that made cat tokens. Between that and the new cat Lords we should have seen this coming.

just kidding, even when I threw the idea out there I thought it was terrible. But wizards is terrible so we should have seen this coming

>> No.54155272

What world do we think Arahbo is from? The background and sound of the name don't feel very Amonkhet. Naya makes sense, I suppose, but feels like a missed opportunity to do Naya colors.

>> No.54155445
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Brimaz confirmed as one of the sub-generals

>> No.54155452


Regal force is the business

>> No.54155566

god i wish panoptic mirror was legal so i could put glorious end under it

>> No.54155635
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>> No.54155636

What makes Thrasios + Tymna better verse Atraxa?

>> No.54155655

This is the shitties Avatar tribal commander i've seen to date

>> No.54155768

sheoldred wins games, they wont print a sliver commander

>> No.54155783

>Infinite mana combo sink
>CA starting as frequently as turn 2
>Easily made to combo off/reanimate a Jin-Gitaxias
>Incredibly flexible control shell thanks to their versatility


>Play Atraxa
>hope no one kills it?
>Play some PWs
>Hope no one kills them?
>Doubling Season
>Yay I win guys :)))))

>> No.54155786
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>not Amonkhet

>> No.54155788

There's already 4 different 5c sliver commanders, and I'm pretty sure MaRo said that they're pretty much never gonna print more because of the 4 that already exist, especially since it's always a single strategy no matter which of the 4 you use.

>> No.54155797

god i hope thats not real

>> No.54155809

>Superfriends is the only Atraxa deck
You do know that +1/+1 counters is far stronger and more consistent, and even 4c Infect is also really good with her, right?
Superfriends is the for-fun build, +1/+1 is the serious build.

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>> No.54155843

Okay. Just replace what I said about PWs with +1/+1 counters. Anon asked why Tymna/Thrasios are better than Atraxa and even then, they still are.

>> No.54155881

>Its another "normie-tier cat memes" episode

>> No.54155949

I was looking for potential dinosaurs in preparation for that legendary tribal dinosaur in Ixalan when I got sidetracked.

Why does Dromosaur have a higher gatherer rating than Raging Gorilla?

>> No.54155955

more evidence of gw being elusively played by girls

>> No.54155977

The cat dragon doesn't remotely fit that thing's colour identity. It'd make for a really shitty tribal cat deck unless you want to muck around with Akroma as the general.

>> No.54156089

What's the source?

>> No.54156147

Reddit, apparently

>> No.54156155

EB games website

>> No.54156350

wonder if theres any way to go into their urls and figure out the other commanders

>> No.54156376

Now I wonder if we already have the confirmed commanders. Each commander would possibly have one subtype commander of the other product (Wasitora in the Ur-Dragon).
Cat Avatar...Avatar and Spirit Tribals?

>> No.54156395


I don't think so, this one is actually listed.

>> No.54156412


>> No.54156446

+1/+1 can survive without atraxa on the field, though

>> No.54156451

Because dinosaur? Because Gatherer was a cesspool that everyone was okay leaving unusable for a reason? Who knows.

>> No.54156495

possibly means we are getting a reveal soon.
how did they do the c16 reveals? all at once commanders only?

>> No.54156500

What are the best EBT effects in boros?

>> No.54156527

I don't think they did. If I remember correctly we didn't even know the commanders until 2 weeks before release.

>> No.54156559

Maybe the start of August? Or two weeks before?

>> No.54156586

Tribes are Dragons, Cats, Spirits, and Humans. Screenshot this.

>> No.54156598

No it's Dragons, Cats, Ouphes, and Homarids

>> No.54156604
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Bunk-ass Cat Xenagod a go-go, baby!

>> No.54156641

Seeker of Skybreak

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>> No.54156661

>Tribes are Dragons, Cats, Angels, and Humans. Screenshot this.

>> No.54156668

Zealous Conscripts, Godo/Stoneforge, Sun/Inferno Titan, Solemn, Keldon Firebombers, Resto Angel

Feldon also wants in on that action

What are you building?

>> No.54156685

You run Bob in any of your commander decks?

>> No.54156695

So this changed? It used to be that you could get exiled cards with wishes

>> No.54156724

It was changed at the same time that the term "exile" came into the game.
There was never any cross-over where "exile" existed that wishes could fetch from exile.

>> No.54156762
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No, tribes are
Dragons, Cats, Sphinxes and Angels, screencap this
Source: Iconic Masters and My Ass

>> No.54156788

Also sphinxes is going to be Esper and Angels WBRG

>> No.54156793

Sphinx tribal commander in a standard set pretty much kills Sphinxes in C17 though

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>> No.54156825

Mono-Blue Wizards
Selesnya Cats
Mardu Warriors
All-Color Dragons

The dream team.

>> No.54156848

You fail to see that a tribal monocolored commander like that is shit and it's much better in the 99 of a muticolored deck with a commander that actually does something and by the look of things it will do somwthing from the command zone at well making it invaluably better than a regular legend

>> No.54156910

I never said it was good, I said it existed.
Wizards only cares about EDH pandering cards existing and then never having to go back to tribes again.
Just look at Ishkanah or Ulrich for example. They're both complete shit, both for their tribes and overall, but because they exist Wizards thinks they never have to print another Werewolf or Spider commander.
This is why the Sphinx tribal card being in a standard set makes it near-0 chances that they'll be in C17.

>> No.54156919

Though about making Boros Blink.

>> No.54156942

Wizards and Warriors can be swapped out with Mono-Red Goblins and Esper Spirits if you wish.

>> No.54156949

Why so certain?

>> No.54156960
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Where's the fun in that?

>> No.54156979

>two(?) cat tribal cards in standard

>> No.54156993

>that aren't Legendary and therefor not Commander material

>> No.54157005

Not him.
There was a cat dragon and a spirit dragon, the cat deck doesn't confirm spirits, but it does get my hopes up.

>> No.54157008
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That's beacause we never got a commander set focussed on tribes
Look at this, they clearly set up a Cat tribe support in HoD for cats and yet we got a Cat commander
>This is why the Sphinx tribal card being in a standard set makes it near-0 chances that they'll be in C17.
This invalidates your statement

>> No.54157018

Commander material as in the leader, they can be in the 99 fine. To clarify.

>> No.54157026

Kalemne and her use of experience counters leaked a few weeks early, but otherwise we didn't see 2015 until preview week I believe. Not sure about 2016.

>> No.54157031

see >>54156993

>> No.54157043

Cats suddenly got really got pieces in standard, you know what this means?

>> No.54157055

How lame would a Mono-Blue artifact strategy be?

>> No.54157068

And the sphinx i was talking about is perfect in the 99, it even has an ability that works wonders if you add one or more colors to the mix to get recursion (BW)

>> No.54157074

Sacred Prey combos with the horse dude really well.

>> No.54157078

Considering Arcum is considered one of the top tier commanders generally, pretty good.

>> No.54157094

Yet the sphinx you're talking about IS Legendary, and so Wizards is probably considering that enough for Sphinx fans and moving on just like they did with Spiders/Ishkanah and Werewolves/Ulrich, even though those were complete shit.

>> No.54157099

My Tromokratis deck would be complete and utter garbage if it wasn't for actually being mono-u artifacts with a fun smashy sea monster finisher.

>> No.54157111

Makes sense, but if we go by that we only have humans as the fourth because of the tarkir monk. I mean, why play with types from the dragon deck if you're coming up short? Unless there's some dragon angel or dragon goblin legendary that we don't know about.

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>Unless there's some dragon angel or dragon goblin legendary
You called?

>> No.54157181

Think for a second, anon. That horse wasn't meant to start a tribal.

>> No.54157191

Neither was that cat.

>> No.54157213

We aren't in a situation where they have to fill gaps because commander products are focussing on other themes and not tribes like when those legends were released, we are in the exact opposite situation where Wizards can finally focus on tribes and not only that: short after C17 we're getting a Master set focussing on big dudes of wich a good bunch will he Angels, Dragons and Sphinxes why would they miss the chance to sell 200$ boxes to 3 of the 4 precon buyers and 2x100$ boxes from Amonkek and HoD to the other one?

>> No.54157222

Except there's plenty of cat synergy already, and with horses we only have a score of bulk shit.

>> No.54157254

You dummy, it's quite obvious we're getting a Camel/Desert tribal

>> No.54157308

This is so fucking dumb, I love it

>> No.54157330

Not really. You can go combo with Queen, toolbox with Overlord, go wide with Legion, or voltron with Hivelord.

>> No.54157359

>inb4 no zombie pre-con.

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>> No.54157374

The Scarab God will more than suffice for the time being, methinks.

>> No.54157377

As a merfolk fag, I have a bad feeling about this. It looks like they picked literally who tribes.

>> No.54157409

We don't need MORE Merfolk / Zombie / Goblin / Elf shit.
There's already far more than enough for all of those. Yes they're popular and strong tribes, but they all already have a ton of ways to build and a ton of cards and legends.
We need more diversity and more different viable tribes than just the age old ones.

>> No.54157448

>We need more diversity


>> No.54157473

If KANGZ becomes a creature type, I'm in support of this.

>> No.54157520

I was more hoping for reprints like Mikaeus or Lord of the Undead rather than actual new toys.

Although my dream precon would be Warriors in Mardu. Coldeyes denies B and W support and Alesha can't bring back a lot of things.

>> No.54157558

I'd love it if Aristocrats were a tribe, but sadly Teysa 1.0 probably has that market cornered

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>> No.54157596

>favorite artifacts are mindslaver and mindslaver

>> No.54157634

I'm hoping for jackals as the antithesis of the cat tribal.

>> No.54157643

I fucking hate them for repeating the Naga/Snake mistake from Tarkir with Jackal/Dog on Amonkhet
I really fucking hate it.

>> No.54157648
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>giant growth is worth 1 mana + card, in other words 3.5 mana overall
>new commander gives free giant growths every combat from the command zone
>new commander gives 3.5 mana worth of value every turn by simply existing
>every other legendary cat is now dogshit on the command zone in comparison


>> No.54157673

>i don't want good cards because they make my bad cards worse by comparison

>> No.54157675

>literally who

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>> No.54157695

You mean the Ainok (Hound people) right?
nagas != snake ffs. Nagas are mostly humanoid from the waist up while snakes are fucking snakes. Orochi from Kamigawa are the exception, not the rule.

>> No.54157702

The other cat legends were already bad and pretty much keyholed you into mono-white. This is nothing but positive for Cat tribalfags.

>> No.54157707

I think he's more shitting on it because eminence is, as far as we've seen, broken as fuck.

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>> No.54157725

This would be relevant if the other options for Cat tribal were decent. But they aren't. That image isn't relevant at all.

>> No.54157746

Simic bullshit

>> No.54157748

if you're setting out to make a cat tribal then you're probably already dead set on making a shitty deck

printing a card that shits out free giant growths every combat is retarded, because you're getting free shit at no cost. why not print a card that gives you free lightning bolts every upkeep as well? or maybe free healing salves?? oh wait they already did that with oloro and it was gay as fuck, oops

>> No.54157751

There's no naga race on Ravnica, that's literally a snake + elf hybrid. You don't combine two animals and suddenly get a new species overnight.

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There were no naga whatsoever prior to a year ago.

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>1 mana card is worth 3.5 mana

>> No.54157790

>a year
Three years.

>> No.54157799

Khans was nearly 3 years ago, anon. You must be getting old.

>> No.54157816

I feel like you're the only one here who sees a problem with this. It's a free Giant Growth only for Cats. If you're making a cat tribal deck, it's still shit, it just has a decent head now. Nothing wrong with that.

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>what does the cost of a card mean

you've never wondered why your cards sometimes run out while you're playing? and why drawing cards costs mana?

>> No.54157851

That doesn't make it equal to 3.5 mana.

>> No.54157914

And 1 card is not worth 2.5 mana. Harmonize trades 4 for 3, or 1.3. Brainstorm, Ponder, and Git Probe trade 1 for 1.

>> No.54157925

>counterspell costs 2 mana
>dismiss costs 4 mana and includes you drawing a card, and therefore doesn't cost a card

>the difference is 2 mana and an opportunity cost

>night's whisper costs 2 mana and 2 life, and gives you 2 cards
>ambition's cost costs 4 mana and 3 life, and gives you 3 cards

>the difference is 2 mana and 1 life in exchange for an extra card


a card costs a little more 2 mana in almost any case. that's how the game is balanced. saying that giant growth only costs you 1 mana is retarded, the cost of a card is what matters there

>> No.54157949

It doesn't. You're simply overestimating it. And besides, it's not just a Giant Growth. It's a Giant Growth that is only for Cats, which isn't a very big creature type.

>> No.54157988

So what do you guys think of Ghostway, Eerie Interlude, and Legion's Initiative?

>> No.54157989

harmonize and concentrate are costed very generously, and are rare exceptions. even then, they're 4 mana draw spells and are therefore more efficient.

i don't really understand why you're bringing up cantrips either. they replace themselves. when you cast git probe, you're paying 1 mana to look at your opponent and replace the card. that's why git probe's effect isn't as strong as giant growth's. it replaces itself, while giant growth doesn't.

this shouldn't be that hard to understand

find me a draw 2 spell at 2 mana with no additional drawback, and i'll accept that a card is worth exactly 2 mana.

>> No.54158026

>And 1 card is not worth 2.5 mana. Harmonize trades 4 for 3, or 1.3. Brainstorm, Ponder, and Git Probe trade 1 for 1.

Not that guy, but he is probably close to right. You are forgetting that each of those cards also costs a card (itself) to cast. So harmonize only puts you up 2 cards for 4 mana, or 2 mana a card. All of the cantrips net you 0 cards, typically you just get better selection for your mana is all.

>> No.54158262

The only way to play creatures without being raped to death everytime.
Bonus for ETB critters.

>> No.54158293

Sfm, suntitan, archangel avacyn flickerwisp, resto angel, kikijiki, zealous conscripts, recruiter of the gaurd.

>> No.54158297


>> No.54158314

The grixis precon had two zombies

>> No.54158508

It won't be because Giant Growth is a shit card on EDH and it locks into not amazing colors on cat tribal.
Oloro gives you a weak effect, but relevant because you don't need creatures to abuse it and gives you fucking Esper, of all things.

>> No.54158541

Oloro's not a great choice for tribal cats though.

>> No.54159171

It's a cat Xenagod

>> No.54159180

Any good reusable flickers you could recomend? Again, playing boros.

>> No.54159251


Very much what >>54142803 said. If you aren't that guy who's sitting there trying to Armageddon every game then a bit of targeted nonbasic hate every now and again shouldn't be a big deal. Some lands pretty much need the answers to them. It may be a matter of actually discussing the matter with your playgroup and figuring out where exactly the line lies, however.

Also... >>54142803
Did you mean Tabernacle?

>> No.54159368


... Goddammit Anon. You owe me new sides.

>> No.54159428


Galepowder Mage, Conjurer's Closet, Cloudstone Curio+Whitemane Lion

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So, real quick, I saw an image of a cat tribal deck from the new commander set. Is this confirmed real?

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How good is this for boros stax?

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