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Paizo Games General /pgg/ (also /pfg/, Pathfinder, and Starfinder)

What do your characters look like in formal dress? Parade dress?

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Old Thread: >>53891083

>> No.53896347

>What do your characters look like in formal dress? Parade dress?
Extremely unhappy and dour. Every one of them prefers more practical clothing.

I have played a couple that prefer more frilly outfits, but none of my current ones do.

>> No.53896357

Has anyone gotten their hands on the Adventurer's Armory 2? Thoughts? Print is out already, but the PDF comes out on the 28th.

>> No.53896397

>demons get succubi
>daemons get erodaemons
>devils get basically every devil that isn't a soldier or office worker
when do Qlippoths get a sex temptress lady?

>> No.53896427

Is the Butchering Axe a 3d6 weapon? That's what I want to know

>> No.53896441

When Paizo gets bold enough to include a tentacle demon with a lust for schoolgirls in the game.

>> No.53896454


I was told by a friend with the book that its 3d6 x3 crit str 19 requirement and ORC ORC ORC

>> No.53896455

Mageguru trove link appears to 404.

>> No.53896457

Hey man, the link's right here!


>> No.53896473
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I really want to know the details on the Orc Hornbow. It's martial for half-orcs, so I have my next character in mind already.

Wait, does it count as an orc weapon for weapon familiarity?

>> No.53896474


Yyyep. 3d6 18-20 x4, by the sound of it. Needs 19 STR to wield, but that's pretty easy to manage. I believe it needs EWP too, but you can avoid that just by playing a half-orc.

>> No.53896486


I click one these threads to take the cat girl pics and go away. I have no knowledge about pathfinder nor do i have a desire to do so. Have a good day.

>> No.53896499

Qlippoths don't get waifus because they're basically the fungus of the underworld.

>> No.53896500

Likely wise.

>> No.53896505


Take care, anon!

>> No.53896541

Need I remind you of the man that had fungus growing out of his spunk sock?

>> No.53896569


>Wait, does it count as an orc weapon for weapon familiarity?

From what I understand, yes.

>> No.53896572

Since I'm an impatient fuck, if anyone's found a scan, that would be greatly appreciated.

Jesus Christ. I've heard there's also some mundane equipment modifications, something I've desperately wanted.

>> No.53896580

>Need 19 STR to wield it
>Exotic Weapon

Get fucked dexfags

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Hot shit, between the axe and the bow, this is a really solid buff to half-orc warrior types.

>> No.53896610

18-20 x4 is fake. It's just 20/x3.

>> No.53896628


Really? My apologies then, I was misled.

>> No.53896630
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I'm pretty sure the 18-20/x4 was some asshole memeing. I'm pretty sure it's going to be 19-20/x3 at most, and probably only 20/x3.

>> No.53896652


Orc and Half-Orc Vital Strikers are going to be disgusting now.

>> No.53896654

This is the first time I've ever heard of starfinder. Is it going to be as open-sourced as Pathfinder? Or, does nobody know, yet?

>> No.53896657

What's this I hear about a hornbow?

>> No.53896662

What would a sexy qlippoth temptress even be like?

>> No.53896665
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My character is too autistic to deal with regular dressing, too focused in his job.

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I’m not really sure what to say about this one, honestly. If I’m reading this right, Leona apparently got her powers because of some deal between Nocticula and Desna? And there’s a familiar involved named Xzel? I’m really at a loss for what to comment on here; Why would a demon lord and a goddess be so interested in one girl? I’m not seeing much besides the deal itself that makes her special, besides the fact she’s an oracle (which I suppose could justify some involvement with gods, since Oracles are basically chosen by them).

Not much to say in negatives or positives I guess. For suggestions...maybe elaborate some more on who exactly Leona is? Why she specifically got dragged into this deal, who Xzel is, what her own goals and aspirations are beyond what Nocticula and Desna want her to do, things like that. If this is a meme app, then good job I suppose. Otherwise, sorry I can’t say anything more useful.

>> No.53896675


Supposedly, its an Orc racial weapon as well, 2d6 bow with a x3 crit, long bow range increments, and can add Str like a composite bow.

>> No.53896692

Doesn't that mean it's basically exactly long a longbow, but better?

>> No.53896700

A 2d6 bow has been something I've been looking for all my life, I need this so bad.

>> No.53896709

I'm thinking about making a character that's a cultist of one of the Qlippoth lords; which one should I go with?

>> No.53896720

Can you use a Handy Havarsack to keep things cold? How does the pocket dimension work when it comes to things like that?

If I stuffed a block of nevermeltice in with a bunch of perishables, would it keep them together to keep them all cool? Would they just meander about the plane until I retrieve them, keeping them separate?

>> No.53896733

Be a hillbilly cultist that lives out in the middle of a swamp and worships the broodmother.

>> No.53896735
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So! How was your weekend, /pgg/? Do anything fun or exciting, game-related or otherwise?

>> No.53896741

Yamasoth, the Polymorph Plague!

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pocket dimensions are based on the ambient temperatures outside of the pocket dimension when they were crafted, so if the ice can survive at room temperature, it'll be fine.

you'd probably make the (remember, relatively small) area pretty cold by putting in a block of ice.

>> No.53896769
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My weekend was great Anon! I got a bonus session with a group I really like playing with!

>> No.53896779

We are fucked, we got caught inside lurkwood and we had to take a huge turn. Hope the aging penalty don't fuck us in the ass.

>> No.53896781
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I couldn't do it. Every time I pointed the gun I thought about those cookies, and stayed my hand.

Say whatever's on your mind, Anon

You look like mysterious Anons to me. Maybe the secret admirers can't find you!

>> No.53896795

We finally finished a campaign that has been going on for almost a year and a half! We killed the evil wizard and brought piece to the land!

Also my character's daughter decided to ride off into the storms with her fey boyfriend and my character is now finally alone to go fish as he pleases while his other daughter is being mentored somewhere and his wife is visiting family in Korvosa, which for sure is going to be a peaceful trip to meet old friends and not an undead and disease ridden hell ride that takes a toll on her physically and mentally as she battles anarchy and tyrants.

>> No.53896801

I had a good weekend--we had some fun fights, had a laughably one-sided game of cards, and in my other group we finally got out of the fucking tunnels!

>> No.53896816

Well, it's a rather barebones beginning of an app. She was made into the instrument of a pact, and Xzel is her observer/familiar who makes sure she fulfills her part of it. She isn't overly special (yet), she's just part of a deal between two divine forces.

Her background is fairly simple - farmgirl who was given over to a temple of Desna because her family was poor, so she was raised as a priestess. Then along came her final superior and hijacked her for strange purposes.

She could certainly use some development in terms of personal aspirations. I haven't worked much on this app beyond the initial submit. I probably should.

Xzel is...a part of Nocticula's end of the deal, much like her oracle powers are largely Desna's side of the deal. He's an agent of the abyss. Probably.

>> No.53896851

Ah, my bad. I didn't know the app was still a WiP. Best of luck then, and sorry I didn't have much of use to say.

>> No.53896872

>Character 1
Like your pet decided to sneak right into the formal dress you'd laid out on your bed while you weren't looking

>Character 2
Unrealistically good; like the cover-man of a cheesy-as-fuck short romance novel next to the cash register at your grocery store. In fact, *exactly* like the cover-man of one of the cheesy-as-fuck short romance novels next to the cash register at your grocery store. Wait. Holy shit. It really is him.

>> No.53896898

No it's 1d12(9-20/x4) with an inherent +2 to hit and damage and always counts as Masterwork

>> No.53896911

I had a weird PF session the other week. Nine person party, three veterans, two relative newbies, four complete newbies. Got nothing one. Had a flaming gay gnome bard, entertaining and annoying.

>> No.53896938

>only one autismo forces it,
Says the guy that's autistic about animu grillls on an animu board and gets his panties in a twist over a unified /pfg/ & /pgg/ thread instead of his singular pet tagging for the purpose of a game that isn't even released yet.

And when Starfinder releases, you won't even want a unified thread due to shared terminologies in mutually exclusive rulesets causing confusion and fucking assumptions. Kill yourself.

Thanks a lot, man, it's greatly appreciated.

>> No.53896943

Well, it's not as much of a WIP as much as I haven't expanded it as much as I probably will in the end. The framework of it is pretty much all there, except for some stuff on her personal aspirations and whatnot.

Also, again: It's not necessarily that either goddess is interested in her specifically. She was brought in by Desna as a witness to the pact, and as part of the deal between her and Nocticula. What else the deal entails is not known to Leona, but it probably includes more forces sent to fuck up Lammy's day. That is the mission given to Darkstar, after all. Beyond what Xzel tells her, and what Darkstar just knows as a result of the pact, however, Leona doesn't really have too much knowledge on what's going on. She's pretty lost, honestly - she's had her life hijacked by otherworldly forces, one of which is her own patron deity, and her body half hijacked by an alter ego that's largely powered by a demon lord.

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Went to a game store for free RPG day and played a little pfs to get the free starfinder book. Just Quest stuff with level 1s but I think was ok.

The LoTFP limited give away is a real conversation starter

>> No.53896952

The age of Half-Orc rangers with gravity bow is upon us

>> No.53896994

>Character 1
Basically like an early 19th century military uniform, and a simple gold circlet. But also with a big ol' bearskin cape and as huge a sword as he can find strapped across his back. Can't know when to expect assassins.

>Character 2
His idea of formal dress is just his armor and helmet. It keeps him less offensive than he otherwise would be.

>Character 3
He can clean up surprisingly well, but the most formal and high-falutin' events he ever went to involved him just being paraded around in a loincloth.

>Character 4
Exactly the same, just maybe he isn't eating popcorn-fried rats.

>Character 5
Polishes his armor so much you could eat off of it, wears some of his great-grandfather's old things from when he was young...and tries to keep the pentagrams hidden by a cloak or other accessory.

>> No.53897000

Mine was alright, or at least productive. I got the first of 30+ MTG decks I need to make figured out.

>> No.53897103

>Lamentations of the Flame Princess
Is that some innuendo about veneral disease I'm not getting, or is it just feminism at play not getting the irony?

>> No.53897108

I linked the PDF in the last thread.

I think there was going to be the same type of support, plus us posting copies.

>> No.53897146

It's a system made by a guy who went through a tough break up/divorce/unrequited love which he then poured into a system that is notoriously fatal while being oddly good.

>> No.53897153

Are you feeling threatened by Starfinder?

Can't you post Paizo approved anthrosaur in space suits?

>> No.53897165

aaaaaaa I want to play a system about unrequited love!

>> No.53897192

It's more about how horribly can the system kill a player. Closest you will get is playing a conversion of Legacy of Fire. The main motivation for the bad guy is trying to get into the quadrapedal pants of the elemental lord of fire.

>> No.53897333

>Are you feeling threatened by Starfinder?

>Can't you post Paizo approved anthrosaur in space suits?
No, because I don't have that...?

>> No.53897383

Linnorm Kings DM! Linnorm Kings DM! If you're reading this, I wanted to know if you know what CharGen you want for that particular campaign! I'm already chewing on some concepts, and I need an inkling of which I can drop and which I should pursue.

>> No.53897387

Seconding this

>> No.53897412
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I need a table of random embarrassing vices and habits!

>> No.53897447

Add dragon porn as one of your embarassing vicez

>> No.53897456

>Sucks their thumb
>Speaks entirely through a sockpuppet
>Has a little yapper dog in their belt pouch
>Can't stop looking at the female PC's cleavage
>If female, can't stop emphasizing their cleavage
>Chronic masturbation
>Double Weeaboo
>Insists Tian stories are better than Avistani
>Runs like a Naruto ninja or Sonic
>Makes animal noises when excited
>Can't stop touching their party members
>Snorts when they laugh

>> No.53897510

Rolled 12, 6, 9 = 27 (3d13)

With >>53897447
As number 14

>> No.53897511

We went to the next room of the dungeon and fought another group of the same monsters we fought last time and the time before that. Not really impressed by how this campaign's going.

>> No.53897524
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>Can't stop touching their party members
>Chronic Masturbation
>Insists Tian Stories are better than Avistani


>> No.53897543

Session 0 was canceled

But on the other hand I spent some time hanging and gaming with my dad, so there's that

>> No.53897578

Your character sounds like a riot, what's he for?

>> No.53897653

She is for a one-shot meme team game.

>> No.53897665

>Sucks their thumb
I'm 35 and I do this irl.
The fuck, man.
>Can't stop looking at the female PC's cleavage
Boobies are nice, dude. Everyone likes boobs.
>Runs like a Naruto ninja or Sonic
No one past 19 does this.
>Makes animal noises when excited
I know too many women who do this irl.
>Snorts when they laugh
I do this when I need to break a friend.

>> No.53897684

What's the obedience that gives you Cha to AC while wearing next to nothing?

>> No.53897699

Arshea, IE the "be a slut" obedience

>> No.53897705

Cleavage is like the sun, you can flash a look or see it from your periphery, but never stare.

>> No.53897727

Vigilante with that obedience and Companion to the Lonely when?

>> No.53897749

That is more synergistic than you think, Arshea's obedience requires you to have sex with one or more people and praise your partner while doing it.

>> No.53897780

>Linnorm Kings DM!
Hmmm, someone running a Linnorm game? Is it still taking applications? If so, I second tnis question, because I'd like to throw my hat in the ring.

>> No.53897786


Jesus. Quite the daily requirement for CHA AC and Will rerolls.

>> No.53897789

https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/77201/essentia-forgotten-home (Closing in 2 Weeks)
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/79068/journey-to-the-west (Closing in 5 Days)
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/77814/ensoulment-of-the-flower-court (Closing in 1 Week)
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/71590/puella-librum-daemonium (Closing when Nut Milk Delivered)
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/75856/dimensional-ark-abyssia (Closing in 1 Week)
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/80257/wrath-of-the-righteous (Closing in 3 Weeks)
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/80328/volo-fluffy-tails-9 (Closing in 3 Weeks)

>> No.53897826

Isn't PLD closing in about six days?

>> No.53897862


I missed the actual closing date so I just added a joke to my notes. I'll fix that for future threads

>> No.53897890

It's just rumors and shadows, anon. Rumors and shadows. Anon revealed they were thinking of an Ulfen campaign a couple Generals ago, and just last thread we had anon asking for any official sources relevant for the Ulfen.

>> No.53897912

>6 days for the trap, the mad alchemist, and the mute bard to get in
This is a weird game of waiting

>> No.53897947

What happened to the Derrin X Alexander story?

>> No.53897954


FEMALE half-orc ranger/sanguine angels with gravity hornbows

Are you martialfags ready to bow down before your musclegirl cuties and their arrows of death?

>> No.53897970

Just about ready to climax

>> No.53897973

Mute bard?

>> No.53897992

I literally have a request up in the Drawthread to this effect.

>> No.53897998


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Starting level 3, WBL, 25 point-buy, full HP every level, Feat Tax rules, 2 traits 1 drawback, Path of War allowed. Avowed is a maybe, I'm not that familiar with it but I like what I've seen.

Everything else is negotiable on a case-by-case basis.

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Don't forget! Anon called it. Anon couldn't be wrong, could he?

>> No.53898028

Instead of talking, she communicates through interpretive dance. The jiggling distracts people from her message.

>> No.53898031

Thank the cabal cord, it's finally happening

Who can't cry out for help even when she's just on the other side of that wall

>> No.53898044

>No Gestalt


>> No.53898048

>Find magic item with charges
>Expensive as fuck
>GM "Roll charges"
>GM "Lol!"
5th time he was stingy with the magic items. He countes them as full charges when rolling them but then we can't even sell them because nobody wants stuff with 1-5 charges

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I've never run a game with gestalt so I honestly can't vouch for my ability to made good and balanced fights around it.

>> No.53898057


>> No.53898061

Sounds cool and fair to me. Any word on what kind of tone you'd be going for?

Don't be such a baby

>> No.53898075

Gestalt is garbage. Get out of here with that junk.

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Personally, I say stick with no Gestalt, then. My linnorm-slaying warder build works perfectly well without a second class. I wouldn't even know what to pick for said second class.

>> No.53898087

How do you feel about /y/fus

>> No.53898103

But Vult said he had enough breeding slaves. Was he lying again?

>> No.53898120

Gestalt is a shitty meme.

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I've always been a huge fan of Diablo Barbarians and Vinland Saga, but I didn't want to take the game out of Linnorm, at least not permanently.

Skyrim if it wasn't such a borefest. Then again Linnorm ha no strong analog to the Imperials and Aldmeri being in Skyrim so that's not a good frame of reference.


Yeah, I wouldn't want to run an ongoing game as my first brush gestalt. Maybe a short-lived and less serious one for the purposes of testing the waters.


How do the Ulfen feel about TEH GAYS? I'm still reading up on the region,
but my first impression is they care more about strength, accomplishments and being Ulfen rather than who you bugger.

>> No.53898124

Vult only tells one lie, that he isn't Vult

>> No.53898135

Is there a way to get an animal companion as a mount? I'm toying with the idea of a ratfolk druid with the blight druid/swarm monger archetypes (very slightly modified) and I want to maximize swarmy ratness.

>> No.53898141

Linnorm DM! Linnorm DM! Do you have any idea on what the hook of the campaign is going to be? I don't need anything detailed, just a concept to shoot for in my character concept!

>> No.53898147

My understanding is that people from the Kingdoms are generally (culturally) concerned more with who you can kill than who you can bed. Having kids is still important, but nowhere near as important as being able to put a blade through the neck of an ogre.

>> No.53898154

has anyone gotten their hands on adventurer's armory yet? if so, can you confirm the crit stats of the Butcher's Axe?

>> No.53898155

>Then again Linnorm ha no strong analog to the Imperials and Aldmeri being in Skyrim
Tian migrants and colonies?

>> No.53898189

>How do the Ulfen feel about TEH GAYS?
If you ask Paizo you'll no doubt get a neat canned SJW response, but if we're discussing based on vikings in real history and Ulfen as described as based on them, it's distinctly not-gay. If you are used as a woman, you are a woman, and if you're a man that's a woman, you're both literally and figuratively fucked. See previous short discussion on gender roles.

>> No.53898196

Would Psionics be okay with the right fluff? Perhaps the Empath Medium with the (official!) refluffing as a Runeseer?

>> No.53898204

I like Prestige Gestalt. Mostly about adding options and making use of prestige classes, rather than SO OVERPOWURED.

>> No.53898232

>Feat Tax rules
Forgive my ignorance, I know what is usually referred to as feat taxes, but what rule are you referring to here?

>> No.53898239

The Ulfen would presumably have gender roles built around who is the active or passive partner in bed, much like the Romans. If you're fucking a man in the ass you're still manly, but if you're being fucked in the ass you're a woman.

>> No.53898258

>Vinland Saga

Askeladd WHEN?!

>> No.53898262

>and just last thread we had anon asking for any official sources relevant for the Ulfen.
...that was me, though, the guy you're responding to. Sorry 'bout that.

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I really liked The 13th Warrior, so something similar to that in tone. A region plagued by heathen savages and other monsters, ruled by a lesser king whose age is starting to take its toll. The lord sends word for aid - enter the part. It also leaves an open spot for the player who inevitably wants to be a foreign Tien snowflake.

So a sense of isolation, Ulfen deprived of their ships and having to grudgingly abide by their own rules, an angry populace chaffing under a leader past his prime, so on so forth.


Gotcha. So you have to 'assert your dominance'?


Yeah I could see something like that. I haven't played with Psionics since 3.5, that is why I didn't include it automatically.



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>being a filthy Welsh mutt

>> No.53898289

>foreign Tien snowflake.
They don't have to be foreign. LotLK has a sizable Tian immigrant population that hs been there for a good while

>> No.53898293

Oh yeah, definitely interested now.

I've got several character concepts that work for this, just have to decide on one.

>> No.53898320


This campaign will have a rate of 90% OD/ZS warders

>> No.53898321

>I really liked The 13th Warrior,

Sold, expect an app

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That's to be expected with PoW.


I forgot all about that. In the capitol right? That solves that.


A small word of advice: You best expect there will be fighting and Flyting. Investing in Preform will be beneficial.

Which brings me to my next reveal.. Background Skills are in effect! Sorry I forgot about them in my earlier post.

>> No.53898370

I wouldn't spring for OD, but ever since I figured out how to build a level 15 warder capable of soloing Tor Linnorms, it's been something of a desire to see it in play. If that means handing it off to another player, though, I don't mind. It's too loose to really call it a build, anyways.

>> No.53898374

How bad is Mythic Adventures? I want to run a campaign where the gods have died and left the last of their power to certain mortals, and was thinking about using Mythic Ranks to represent it.

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>A region plagued by heathen savages and other monsters, ruled by a lesser king whose age is starting to take its toll.

Anon, look at Kalva. You must look at Kalva. It is literally 13th Warrior; vicious barely-civilized barbarian cannibals who feast on hapless villagers and sailors who get too close to their doomed isle.

>> No.53898423

Mythic is about as bad as wizards.

that is to say, perfectly fine, as long as your players don't go out of their way to break shit.

>> No.53898461

never use mythic. 1 mythic rank with a caster is enough to derail any campaign faster than you can say "that can't be how it works" and 3 mythic ranks means martials will be outputting thousands upon thousands of DPR.

If you really want to run this kind of campaign, have them fight threats that narratively make sense. No shitty zombies or liches, only elder liches with magic no one any less heroic than the PCs have a chance of defeating. Use fluff instead of crunch

>> No.53898568

I plan to invest in all sorts of skills, LinnormDM!

>> No.53898595

>In the capitol right? That solves that.

Kalsgard is discussed in exhaustive detail in the 2nd Book of Jade Regent, Night of Frozen Shadows.

If I might be so bold, the Ulfen are the most detailed yet least used human ethnicity in Golarion, which has always confused me.

>> No.53898648


And now it's sleepy time for me. Hope you enjoy this depraved piece of art.

>> No.53898674

Why are you posting smut in the /pgg/ thread.
Cmon; you know better than this.

>> No.53898682


Good, good. This is the perfect kind of game for a Skald!


I'm still hunting down books with Linnorm and Ulfen info. Are there any others that I should be aware of?



>> No.53898685

No, anon, I really don't.

>> No.53898702

Well now you do. Keep smut off of the blue board, please.

>> No.53898704

>I really liked The 13th Warrior
I see you too are a man of culture.

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Fuck the other reviewanon, I run this shit now. PREPARE YOURSELVES

While this app does technically contain both a Lady, and a Knight, albeit that Knight being a skeleton, as it is not a Lady who is also a knight, it is being discarded

Its both a Lady and a Knight, so thats good, but its lack of a Nodachi, or any similar weapon in its loadout (elven curve blade perhaps), downgrades it

While it is a lady, thats undeniable, its lack of also being a Knight means its pure garbage and thus discarded

>Konrad Aldori
Its a knight, and a dueling sword IS a lot like a nodachi... But its not a Lady, add in the fact that its also a gay, and Tuvarkz is well known for his hatred of the gays, its donezo

Ladyknight, pure ladyknight, if only it had a Nodachi. Still, very good. But it being Iomedae instead of Tuvarkz true love, Milani, hurts it

Manknight, could be gay since he's basically a gym coach, either way not a lady, Discarded.

PURE UNDILUTED LADY/KNIGHT, no nodachi, but made up for by being edgy AS FUCK


Sappy Ladyknight of Shelyn, honestly if you're anyone else doing something like this, stop trying, Tuvarkz will pick this celeb skank over you. Is a Ladyknight too.

Male. Dropped.

Is a lady, not a knight. Is a rogue, which is the opposite of a knight. Dropped.

What the fuck do you not understand about LadyKNIGHTS
Not a knight at all, another rogue, INTO THE TRASH

Maleknight, less likely to be gay and reminds me of a shitty Tuvarkz app in how bland it is. Probably will get in as the sole male.

>> No.53898799

I was thinking more of a Bard, a Qadiran Bard, actually.

>> No.53898835

Just got to level 8, I'm getting a second attack
Does +6/+1 mean the first attacks gets +6 and the second one gets +1, at level 10 the first one gets +10 and the second +2, etc? I don't really get most of these notations.

Where do I even write these down, these sheets suck.

>> No.53898847

>Are there any others that I should be aware of?

Jade Regent Book 2, Lands of the Linnorm Kings, Inner Sea Races, Inner Sea World Guide!

>> No.53898856

This and Bias Bot are how all reviews should be.

>> No.53898879

When your base attack bonus reaches +6, you can make a second attack at full BAB at -5, this is represented by the +1

At level 10 it should be +7, and the second attack at +2

Under the class table it should be shown what you BAB is at any given elvel.

>> No.53898886

Where is the stuff about Starfinder?

>> No.53898908

>where's the stuff about a game thats not out yet


>> No.53898911

Qlippoths don't have sex. Sex is a sin. Sin is agaisnt their nature - it corrupts and perverts the intense chaos and evil of the abyss into soemthign other than pure chaos and evil. So, they will never get one.

Instead they'll get infectious monstrous creatures that lay their spawn in your bodies to hatch through grotesque means. In other words, every qlippoth is already a sexy temptress being.

>> No.53898912

Each class has a table that says what base attack bonus you have at what level, how are you confused about this? It's literally the most simple part of the system. And what sheets are you talking about?

>> No.53898931

Neat, thanks.
It's been months since we started, and I'm just starting to learn certain things about actions and other shit.

I was only confused by the notation of more than 1 attack. If you read my post you'll see that I was dead right and understood it, I just needed someone to tell me I wasn't wrong.

And I guess the default character sheets.

>> No.53898945

They already have 2 different horrible monsters that impregnate people to use as creepy incubators for more qlippoth

Also another one that can shapeshift and likes to start insane anti-demon cults. That's kinda like temptation, right?

>> No.53898993

The second attack will always be at -5 your full BAB, and the 3rd will be at -10 your BAB

>> No.53899016

Ooooh I get why they start to show up at 6 and 11 BAB now. Thanks, anon.

>> No.53899018

Keep in mind that these extra attacks will only happen if you Full Attack, aka using up your Move and Standard actions all at once in order to concentrate on just smacking the person in front of you as much as possible.

>> No.53899039


Is Inner Sea World Guide even hosted anywhere?

>> No.53899056

Gods of Starfinder pt1 blog post


>> No.53899083

It's hosted right here, anon!

>> No.53899086

That's practically G-rated compared to the PLD logs people keep creaming themselves over.

If you're this of a prude, then 4chan may not be the place for you.

>> No.53899104

So why are so many apps for Tuvarkz's Wrath of the Righteous using super fetish-y character art? I feel like there was less cleavage and underboob shown in the overtly sexual listings.

>> No.53899115

They're tempting Tuvarkz free of the taint of Man, or else they're trying to lure in quality male apps.

>> No.53899116

Because they're trying to get Paizo players banned of course.

>> No.53899126


I don't see it anywhere

>> No.53899138

I mean, my app is female but doesn't have anything showing at all. It in fact might be the most modest of the bunch.

>> No.53899140

I... My copy of the pdf is refusing to upload.

>> No.53899141

You haven't even seen the depths PLD continued to

>> No.53899144

welcome to 4chan lmao

>> No.53899151


>> No.53899156

Your character is a slut! A WHORE OF KINTARGO!

>> No.53899184

The temple was old and damp. The roof was wood with stone arches, somehow still holding up a century of mud during the storm of the century. The walls were running stains down them as the water leaked inside, creating small pools in the corners that seemed to suck the heat from the room. Mud was flowing like a molasses waterfall from the hole Cashmere had made, and that the Yellow Jacket had contorted itself through, and out through the front doors, leaving the pulpit dry as an altar in Altheim.

But it was by no means dark. The temple glowed with a cruel, red light, with two beady eyes smoldering from the relief carvings above the podium. It was a temple to Zyke, with his massive image hanging above and looking down on them. Even at his full height, the Yellow Jacket was dwarfed by the carving, but his eyes glowed as well.

'How cruel, how painful. You wound me, and kill my son...'

The voice did not echo, it did not boom, it simply was, and there was no escaping it. The Yellow Jacket seemed to bristle and shake his head. It paced and prowled, heavy drops of blood hitting the ground as it exerted itself, and those drops of blood squirmed with life. It paced, looking over the two girls that had come with it. Young, fertile Nightwalkers.

Fake logs are fun to write.

>> No.53899192


There are only two that are probably inappropriate.

>> No.53899214

I mean, I'm probably just blowing it out of proportion, it just feels like here's more sexualized images than usual.

>> No.53899218

Because if you're not a slutty ladyknight, you're not getting in faggot

>> No.53899229
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But I'm making a male character without a hint of lewd!

>> No.53899251

>Male Character

What about Ladyknight do you not understand you piece of shit.

>> No.53899264

I am not a clever man.

>> No.53899267

It does seem like you're blowing it out of proportion, yes.

>> No.53899320

Looking at the apps more carefully, it's Qari and Amaleone that are screwing with my perception.

>> No.53899324
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I want to be a pretty pretty princess, how can I do that?

>> No.53899350

>Qari is a soft-bodied fat-chested half-elf slut

I want to have some R&R with this lady.

>> No.53899358

A good amount of female apps are pretty lewd. They know what Tuvarkz wants.

>> No.53899359

There's a princess trait you can take, and then play like, I don't know a sorcerer with the human racial bloodline?

>> No.53899397


Talk to your GM, see if they'll let you play royalty. Then make a character who's pretty pretty.

>> No.53899423

Why is it that I can get interested in Asian/Arabian/Egyptian/Pirate settings, but none of the ordinary stuff?
Cheliax/Taldor seem less fun than Tian Xia or the Shackles

>> No.53899460

Because generic Evil or Empire is kind of boring!

>> No.53899526

General exposure over your lifetime, and average quality of writing associated with x setting type.

>> No.53899626
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I suspect Egyptian settings are going to be more popular very soon...

>> No.53899664

Got TPKed in my IRL game because the resident Lawful Stupid paladin decided punching a devil in the face is a good idea after we had managed to negotiate safe passage.

This really pissed me off, especially when the reason given was "that's what my character would do". And turn out he just wanted to roll a new PC. Why not just talk with the DM instead of pissing off everyone at the table?

>> No.53899683

>the madman actually did it
>Derrin X Alexander smut

>> No.53899686


>> No.53899692

are not going to do this

>> No.53899695


>> No.53899724


>> No.53899735

I love it, Lewdster.

Do something raunchy with Jericho and the Royals next, please!

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>> No.53899755


>"There must be more to life," Jericho thought, as he double-penetrated the princess with his bifurcated penis

>> No.53899799

and for Starfinder, there's bound to be a Stargate game

>> No.53899809

And to think she might have been small-chested if Sappy-sama hadn't saved us.

>> No.53899832

I want Qari to be an adorably innocent fat-chested woman eager to fumble at pleasing her fellows, while Cyrielle's the wicked and wanton girl whose outward innocence belies a lifetime of experience!

>> No.53899837


I cannot wait for paizo to ruin some of my favorite sci-fi shows and movies

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I don't want to leave everyone hanging so I will announce this now; I will put up a listing for the Linnorm game on roll20 when I am fully prepared, likely within the next few weeks. There will be an indeterminate recruitment period after that.


Could be interesting. A trader perhaps?

>> No.53899912


Could you please not use the feat tax rules. Can 2hu appear and explain why they are garbage?

>> No.53899921

>Could you please not use the feat tax rules

... What? Why?

>> No.53899932


fucking get over yourself jesus fucking christ

>> No.53899948
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Y-You too!

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>> No.53899974

They're flawed, and I disagree with a handful of choices made, but they're overall better than base I feel. Care to elaborate on what exactly you dislike about them?

>> No.53899977


'Then everyone took Power Attack/Deadly Aim at level 1.'

>but muh Dex

'You slightly inconvenience the dexfag who is going to find a way to build up a TWF fuckboi anyway.'

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>t. man who has literally never read the majority of the character sheets coming out of /pfg/ players

yes, yes, tell me more about how I build characters

>> No.53899993

I'll read up more on the Kingdoms. should have a decent idea for a character once it hits.

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>tfw afraid to post my art because I dont want anyone to steal it

>> No.53900043
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Ha! I'm posting my art now! I don't care!

>> No.53900060

I already posted mine upthread. Aaaaaaall the way back here >>53896473

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>> No.53900072


You're totally retarded, feat tax rules enable people to dump STR completely. If Power Attack is going to be free then it needs to at least require the character in question to have 13 strength.

Even with feat tax TWF is hot garbage.

>> No.53900081

Careful how you ask or Qari might set you up with one of the other party members by accident!

>> No.53900098

I'm using that one too!

>> No.53900106

Fuck off. 2hu is a moron.

>> No.53900111


Also stolen

Didnt care ololol

>> No.53900112
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More art!

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>> No.53900135

Well yeah, I posted a meaty man-orc, not one of the blonde busty chicks you seem to be after.

>> No.53900137


Yeah the guy arguing for non combat abilities to be on totally separate tracks as combat ones is totally a "moron". You're just a meme shit posting piece of human feces.

>> No.53900147
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You could also be a handsome hunk!

>> No.53900158


You aren't going to fix the issue with Str/Dex by forcing a one feat tax. At best you've slightly delayed the inevitable Dexterity build. Dexfags gonna Dexfag. Even core has Agile and Unchained Rogue dips so its not even limited to houserules and DSP material.

A real incentive to take Str is to say, make heavy armor more affordable earlier on, standardize Double Slice, or even go 4e style with saves, just as an example.

>> No.53900168

When will we get plain musclebound fighters? I don't mean ugly, I mean average in looks aside from possessing well trained bodies!

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>> No.53900192

I've got those too!

>> No.53900193

>You're totally retarded, feat tax rules enable people to dump STR completely.
Something people can and will do WITHOUT feat taxes, they'll just have to take an extra feat now. Oh no, what a shame.

>If Power Attack is going to be free then it needs to at least require the character in question to have 13 strength.
I'm fairly certain literally nobody would question this if you said it was going to be enforced. This is a non-issue.

>Even with feat tax TWF is hot garbage.
This is more a systemic problem than anything, and an issue with the fact that the feat tax rules DO NOT ACTUALLY GO FAR ENOUGH in putting a reduction on the number of feats a TWF-er needs in order to pretend to function properly.

>> No.53900199
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>thinking all these tittyvikings will get in

>> No.53900214
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Nah, I'm comfortable with being a chunky orc dude. I plan on playing him like Orrig, from Daughter of the Lilies.

He's basically the team dad through and through

>> No.53900217

When artists stop making nothing but dreamy hunks, pretty boys, and ugly freaks, which is literally never going to happen.

>> No.53900220


Forgot to add; Dexterity also doesn't get Piranha Strike for free, and it doesn't have a x.1.5 multiplier for two-handing, nor does two-handing with Dex weapons (Estoc, Curve Blade, etc) give it without the errata to Deadly Agility. Agile still punishes you with flat Dex to damage.

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I need more tittyvikings.

>> No.53900247

Why the fuck does Paizo have a literal furry pedophile writing for them and why does his website say he's a school teacher

>> No.53900268
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I am fond of the Shield Maiden trope but I do like a diverse cast of personalities and genders. However, a strong Ulfen girl or two would not be unwelcome, to match the herculean He-Men and charming but hairy bearzerkers I hope to see.

>> No.53900270

He's a better writer than like half of the Paizo staff.

>> No.53900278

Because he loves the children.

>> No.53900292

No, 2hu is a moron because all he can do is math.

He's an expert with 4e because the math is fine. PF math isn't fine, so he does stupid shit with the builds he makes and they turn out incorrect.

>> No.53900299


Strength/Dexterity is a PF problem, Elephant in the room doesn't fix it or even help it. It makes it worse by giving dex their best tool because as >>53900220 points out, Pirahna strike is worse than power attack.

>> No.53900313

And that makes it okay?

>> No.53900316

Because Paizo is a publishing company first. You pay them, they publish your book. You'll notice that it's Pf compatible, not PF official.

There are worse people writing shit that gets published anon.

>> No.53900328


Obliterating encounters is always correct. Because PF gives non casters next to no tools to interact with the world. The majority of PFG games are AP's which are combat focused as well.

>> No.53900329

Honestly, to fix the strength/dex disparity, just give the brutal slayer level 1 and level 6 class features as a strength-based feat-line.

Exact same progression, maybe even give the first one to players with at least 15-16 starting strength if you're using feat-taxes

>> No.53900344

No, but that's why he's there.

>> No.53900364

He wrote Blood of Beasts for them dumbass

>> No.53900388

Dexterity inherently does less damage. Your autistic fringe build does not stop this, and if Power Attack detaxing triggers you so much then just make it fucking require the 13 Strength. Also remember that it's not made with Path of War in mind, and if you're going to screech about that then you might as well just do what >>53900329 says and toss in something for Strfags to play with. That and just not use the errata'd version of Deadly Agility.

>> No.53900398

Friendo, he's the one who fucked up Lore Warden. He's nowhere near being a decent writer.

>> No.53900423

In what fucking universe is 4e math fine? 4e getting endless combat math revisions and math fix feats and repeated attempts to revise skill challenges into something resembling a mathematically functional system and still never gelling is part of why its sales sucked so bad most of the dev leads were fired and replaced every year it was in production until it was finally shitcanned.

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enforced hole to pole ratio

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This one lacks titties!

>> No.53900478

So? You going to complain about Ace Publishing, DAW, and Nebula for publishing stuff written by murderers, pedophiles, and sex-ring operators? If not, you're pretty hypocritical about your preferred targets for slander and libel.

>> No.53900480


I want to play a westaboo Tian samurai who wants to become a viking!

>> No.53900481

The fact that they could actually fix the math instead of just going 'lol who cares' and printing 150 more spells instead attests to that, surely?

Also this fucking Dex/Str argument is such a tired piece of shit, it's two hobos fighting over a week-old sub in a dumpster outside a mansion full of casters eating caviar and jerking off into each others mouths.

It's not meant to fix anything, it's meant to keep you from blowing the first half of your feats on the same bullshit you always do. It's not a power leveler at all.

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It shall be so, as grandpa Erastil wills it.


They can follow their dreams! but they might not get a warm reception from their fellow Tian.

>> No.53900509

> You're not crusading against these off-topic companies, so you must be wrong

Get into a cloning vat so you can go fuck yourself

>> No.53900513


The PoW classes all hand out plenty of bonus feats to cover all the taxes. Because they were made with them in mind.

>> No.53900536

Go fuck yourself with a cactus if you want to try to get someone to lose their job over a fucking RPG book.

>> No.53900541

>I'm pure and decent, it's just this ONE WRITER who is evil!
Why don't you take a good look in the mirror and decide if you're really trying to defend a shit company or you're just trying to vindicate your own lack of moral compunctions.

>> No.53900550

Killer's Implements wasn't even added until Expanded. I question your interpretation.

>> No.53900554
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What if we want to play an Erutaki?

>> No.53900563


>most of the good/meme archetypes eat up bonus feats
>stalker doesn't even have one inb4 'muh stalker arts feat conversion' enjoy your no critical edge or murderous insight

>> No.53900574

Could just be that I hate pedophiles, dumbass. That's not supposed to be a radical idea

>> No.53900576

If your job is writing RPG Books, and you've written shitty ones filled with your magical realm, then I'd damn well hope you're not hired to write more.

>> No.53900580


Stalker is garbage, I can't deny that

>> No.53900607


I don't see why you couldn't?

>> No.53900617

Not him but;
Why does it matter what else he does? Just say his fucking book is shit; it is. His other attributes are irrelevant, no?

>> No.53900620

>stalker needs Bushi in order to have a functional recovery
>but that means no killer's implements at 1st level
>also means delaying the fuck out of all his other Stalker arts

>> No.53900621

Harbinger also says hi :n

>> No.53900623

He puts his babyfur and piss shit into his books, so it feels pretty fucking relevant to me

>> No.53900629

Stalker would be muy bueno if it was only a full-BAB class.

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More art!

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Is it possible to get 100% Hit chance through any means? Not like getting such a high to-hit roll that it surpasses any AC for an effective 100% chance, but some kind of ability that just says "You Hit, they take the effect (if any)"

I'm not a minmaxer, I'm planning on having my players fight against a conceptual based enemy as a final battle and want to make sure there are ways to actually win before I go through with it

>> No.53900657


I'll suggest some stalker tweaks. Good reflex progression, baked in evasion, full BAB.

>> No.53900669

PoW. Scarlet Throne. Level 5 or 6 strike that always hits, no roll, no DR, treated as a 20 for purposes of opposed rolls such as Counters of the Parry Deed

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>> No.53900696

Anything like this is bullshit and is one of the bigger reasons i hate PoW, alongside no-save condition infliction

>> No.53900698

Play 4e. That's about it.

>> No.53900702

See, if I was a Paizo writer, I'd indulge my dandy and cane weapon fetish. Viable caneswords and caneguns are just the beginning.

>> No.53900710

is fencing/slashing grace ever worth it? Assuming no 3rd party material

>> No.53900735

Swashbuckler, one-handed fighting fighters

>> No.53900755


Their skill selection is garbage too if they're meant to be a rogue replacement.

>> No.53900759

Ranged Touch Attacks with no saves?

>> No.53900761

But are those even viable? I was under the impression that one weapon in one hand was the worst fighting style

>> No.53900775

Those can still miss because despite memes, touch AC can get pretty high and nat 1's are a thing.

>> No.53900781

Depends on the GM and players

>> No.53900785
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You know, with the Land of the Linnorm Kings having such a large population of Tian who embrace their heritage, you know what we could find?

Mute busty Bard.

>> No.53900793


If your party has a two handed STR guy you'll probably feel like a chump

>> No.53900797

you asked for worth it, not optimal

>> No.53900805

I really think I'd remember babyfur and water sports being in Pathfinder books, my dude.

>> No.53900811

Dat ninja in the background.

It's probably Kagamine Len.

>> No.53900830

>Good reflex progression, baked in evasion, full BAB.

Pls tell me this is a thing.

>> No.53900834

He's referring to some thrid part books Algunas did that had some kttsune as children(in a book themed around aging effects) and a shrunken kitsune in a jar of yellow liquid.

This makes Algunas a pedophile because reasons.

>> No.53900839

Power Word spells with no HP limit. This is such a disgustingly unbalanced ability any use would have to be homebrewed.

>> No.53900844

I think that's Master Yi. It even looks like his default skin's image.

>> No.53900881

Are those even a thing?

>> No.53900901 [SPOILER] 
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God Path of War really milked "Muh Martials are underpowered" to print some retarded shit but at least it works for the bullshit I'm writing.

>> No.53900915

They can be now, with the almighty power of the DM Fiat
Dude just brew a special (Su.) ability especially for this one monster, uniques having stupid abilities is perfectly fine.

>> No.53900963

It doesn't do bonus damage, hits once and that's it. Considering martials are supposed to almost always, like 90%, hit their first attack of the round anyways, this is basically just nat 1 insurance.

Get out of here with this 'retarded shit' argument

>> No.53900964

I mean homebrew kinda defeats the point of the question.

And I'm all for special monster abilities, but "death no save" as a standard action doesn't seem that fun for either GM or player.

>> No.53900984

It ignores damage reduction too.

>> No.53901024

Damage reduction, other than DR/-, is meant to be bypassed by most anything.

And when it comes to DR/- the best martials ignore it too, that being archers

>> No.53901030
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>thigh gap

But where is the thigh gap?

>> No.53901045

Between her thighs, dipshit.

>> No.53901115
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Who is the most eligible bachelor from the recent crop of /pgg/ games?

>> No.53901192

Without a doubt, Alexander.

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Armor+Faceless is a big combo.

>> No.53901294
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Path of War completely missed the main reason for the Martial/Caster divide. It completely disregarded the out-of-combat versatility that casters have a lot of and martials just don't have. Rather than versatility it just gave combat, and it gave a lot to combat. Now you can Hit, Hit+Status Effect, Hit+Really Cool thing, Hit+100 damage, or Buff everyone. It puts martials ahead of the combat game early on (Unless the casters maximize DCs for early Save or Lose spells)

Meanwhile the Casters are waiting until they can turn invisible and ethereal to walk through and loot the castle before casting Power Word Solve Problem while the martials either try rolling diplomacy or figure out a way to solve the issue by hitting it. It makes it even harder for DMs to try and balance around it since it raises the effective CR of the party beyond what it normally would be and printed monsters are either too strong for their level or HP sacks that flail wildly

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I think you mean Path of War is all about exploding things with fuckoff big damage while having huge AC.

Reflected Blade Style is a treasure. Thanks, Gareth.

>> No.53901335

Yeah but that doesn't fix martials because combat effectiveness isn't why martials cap out at tier 3.

>> No.53901350

>chronicles list
>two LE inquisitors of the same faith
>two alcoholics
>two meme races with a good chance of getting in
>every other race is human save for one alcoholic

Anyone else see what I see?

>> No.53901354

Why is Iomedae the goddess of humans now

>> No.53901357

While I agree on the front of not giving martials narrative manipulation powers

It did succeed, partially, at removing the phrases "I full attack" and "I 5ft step" and "I pounce" from being the kings of martial combat.

You have so many options of how you approach combat and that's what lovers of the ToB and now PoW at least /partially/ wanted

>> No.53901368

Because she was the right-hand woman of the God of Humans.

>> No.53901390

She spent her youth being daddy Aroden's cummy receptacle.

>> No.53901395


Like the stupid fucking Trollman books, they upped damage and made encounter balance ever more impossible to track.

>> No.53901404
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Not really the point. Path of War is a fun side game to Pathfinder that's about people throwing big numbers and fighting big monsters with special abilities and letting every turn feel like you're doing something amazing and special.

Saying that it's not solving Pathfinder's biggest problem doesn't matter, because it's not trying to solve Pathfinder. It's trying to add fun to pathfinder. Path of War is fun. That's enough.

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Then why is Path of War allowed in basically EVERY /pfg/ game?

>> No.53901439

using /pfg/ as an example is an awful idea
using ANYTHING from 4chan is an awful idea

>> No.53901448

You could say we're something awful

>> No.53901451

>First rate buckwheat
>Bully oats and potatoes
He already knew in his heart of hearts that it was Alexander.

>> No.53901453

No, she spent her youth pleasing Arazni. She only moved on to Aroden after Arazni was killed.

>> No.53901454
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It's deity time for Starfinder!


Did your favorite make the first cut?

>> No.53901456

Would the game be fun if every was change class to be equal to tier 1?

No? What about tier 2? tier 3?

>> No.53901464

Depends on players, yes, yes.

>> No.53901466

Since when?

>> No.53901476

She got promoted or something

>> No.53901477

Jolly, Relaxed, Serious.

>> No.53901489

Jolly Relaxed Mild

>> No.53901494

One of my three favorites made it. That's rough.

>> No.53901504

>the Spirit of Golarion, the patron goddess of humanity
Yeah okay but what about like, the elves and dorfs and shit

>> No.53901506
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>Four of the five old deities are women
>The one male deity is evil

>> No.53901515


Wake me if Erastil or Kurgess show up somewhere.

>> No.53901528

... Who cares? The Dwarves have Torag, the Elves have Something, Humanity has a Deity now.

>> No.53901529

>CE god of black holes, destruction, and supernovas
I hate this. I fucking HATE it. Look at this shit, black holes and supernovae are now Evil. Paizo is literally telling you that gravity and physical laws are evil.

>> No.53901532

I bet the Devourer could kick Pharasma's ass.

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>Iomedae, Lao Shu Po, Pharasma, Sarenrae
>Devourer, Triune

>Only god is evil
C'mon... Just... C'mon. Guess I'm not using the default setting.

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>no Asmodeus

shit list

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>Sarenrae is now a proper Sun God now

Now this is what I call a spicy change to her character!

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>LG goddess of honorable battle, humanity, justice, and valor

>Iomedae was once a mortal human on Golarion, and with that planet's disappearance, she has become known as the Spirit of Golarion, the patron goddess of humanity.



Is Iomedae supposed to be the not-God-Emperor? God-Empress? P-Please no.

>> No.53901558

It's only the first half who knows what will come out next

>> No.53901564

I'm sticking to Rovagug, thank you.

>> No.53901565

>Black Holes literally just do their jobs
>Supernovas are merely a result of a star reaching it's use-by date
>But they're both evil

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What the FUCK does the Azlanti Star Empire worship? Are we going to see some A E S T H E T I C worship of the Self?

>> No.53901590



>> No.53901598

>The God of Primitive Civilization
>Existing in the Far Future

>> No.53901608

Does Starfinder still use the Great Wheel?
I could convert my qlippoth cultist idea to starfinder, right?

>> No.53901632

Triune is neat as fuck and I like how it's literally the holy trinity.
Devourer is probably stronger the the other gods combined desu

>> No.53901641

The Paizo devs saw the light and copied the way 4e did it because it is superior. Print out your wheel stuff because they are deleting it from
Their site

>> No.53901643

Abadar isn't a God anymore, he's a CEO.

Welcome to Starfinder, where someone like Norgorber is too problematic to have as a God of Assassins, but a Goddess of Assassins from the even more "Literally Who" continent is peachy.

>> No.53901651

fuck off 4e shill

>> No.53901655
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Because people like seeing big numbers and not doing the same thing over and over in the one thing they want to do. I have run a game for years that subsisted off of me trying to scale encounters to my path of war wielding players. They destroyed two Brass Juggernauts (CR 8 each) at level 3, and 6 Minor Reapers (CR 10 Each) at level 4. Fuck, the last boss for the first part of the game was a 2400 HP Time-Stop sorcerer and even then they blew through that with ease (albeit at a slow enough pace to get some dialogue in)

Near the middle of the second part I started homebrewing a Divinity system for when they decided to start killing Gods but the game ended up dying due to internal conflict

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>it's literally the holy trinity.


>> No.53901683


Still better than a Wizard casting time stop, gating something in to fight for him, then teleporting away.

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Because I want more options than 'I full attack it'.

Counters are great too.

>> No.53901694


Machine gods are pretty cool. I feel a little iffy on the merging of 3 deities into one but at least it is there.

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Why is Gardevoir so CUTE?

>> No.53901700


On the contrary, he's the God of Pioneers. There's a whole galaxy of new frontiers to explore, new worlds to colonize, and new families to build. He might be old, but he's been watching over humans for a long time-why should he quit now, when there's more wilderness than ever to settle?

>> No.53901710

I love Harbinger-sword wizard builds where you spread all the conditions to everything

>> No.53901714

Because she's the Shaped-Like-A-Hot-Flat-Chick pokemon.

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Good thing Milani has taken the mantle of being Goddess of Pioneers, then!

No, but seriously though, the portfolio of Pioneering and Discovering new worlds has already been taken by a Bug Goddess.

>> No.53901732

But I liked Erastil.

>> No.53901743


>> No.53901754

So how would you stat up Gardevoirs as a race?

>> No.53901768

She's also psychically linked with her trainer, subtly alters her personality to be more pleasant and agreeable, is viciously loyal and is willing to die if it means saving her trainer.

They're psychic people with sexual dimorphism, so probably a refluffed Lashunta.

>> No.53901816

Not NECESSARILY sexual dimorphism.

Moreso that only males CAN take a certain shape, and only with outside interference.

>> No.53901889

>Timestop sorcerer DIO
>Entire picture is presumably a pre-battle CG for the players vs the sorcerer
This is either autism or good GMing and im not sure which it is

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>Liking Erastil
I shiggy

>> No.53901913

>advocating heresy on this level

>> No.53901981

The issue with Path of War is that it doesn't play nice with other content.

It straight up makes martials more powerful, so 'choosing not to play an initiator' doesn't just mean 'I don't want to use these options other people find interesting' it's choosing a VERY significantly weaker option.

'Why don't you just play an initiator' is the same as saying 'why don't you play a wizard'

>> No.53902128

>Low level start: Initiators
>High level start: Vancian Caster
>Mid level start: Spheres

>> No.53902151

Some of the most broken stuff can be done with 1pp.

Also you don't have to be an initiator to use PoW stuff; like Deadly agility or Greater Unarmed Strike

>> No.53902166

This is fair, and probably the logic behind the errata for disciplines, but that's sort of how it is. It's kind of like the difference between a core fighter vs a fighter using all the splats.

I wish Martial Training wasn't so expensive and restricted

>> No.53902183

If you play with path of war Content you basically have to be an initiator if you want to occupy a 'striker' roll in any reasonable capacity.

Want to blast? SoL.
Use some of that fun KoP or Legendary Kinetist content? SoL.
Legendary Vigialnte? SoL.

>> No.53902231

If PoW is in play I just give free martial training to all the non-initiators.

>> No.53902265

Honestly I'm currently having more problems dealing with the insanity of SoP builds than I am initiators.

>> No.53902279

Martial Training would work better if each discipline simply had more to it at a given level. They're all clearly designed to be things you pick and choose from, rather than hard focus on, for the most part. You rarely want only one discipline's stances, especially, so Martial Training limiting you to ONE discipline causes issues.

>> No.53902280

>memeing this hard
What's troubling you.

>> No.53902302

Realistically there's a lot of powerful things SoP builds can do, I find it harder to account for them than an initiator swinging for a large amount of damage and their counters, this may be because I'm perfectly comfortable throwing initiators back at them.

Blasters in particular have become more problematic

>> No.53902310

Tome material didn't really up damage beyond what 3e characters were doing anyway at the time. Most of it was far less lethal than popular methods for stabbing faces harder. Do remember that they were written in the era of the Flasked Avenger and San Diego Super Charger, and the goal was usefulness on the same field as martial builds that were functional at the time and a reasonable degree of narrative control.

>> No.53902316

>spheres blasters
They're shittier than a barbarian/archer build unless they go nova.

>> No.53902343

Indeed, it may cease to be a problem if my resource draining is going properly

However, I'm also having difficulty with a sneak attack based Telekinesis build, which throws a lot of dancing weapons out and can do kind of dumb damage, this one has caused me more problems than usual, my usual tactics in combat have proved utterly ineffective as it slaughters minions as fast as I can spawn them.

>> No.53902373

Details? I'm suprised builds like that don't get fucked by DR?

Are colossal chakrams involved in anyway,shape, or form?

>> No.53902404

Not yet, DR can only do so much, I'm talking like.. 8+ knives thrown out, set to flank targets, and if that target moves or shoots it gets shanked by both for sneak attack damage.

It inhibits mobility greatly, 5foot steps exist but you can't move after using one, making it difficult for me to bog the mostly ranged party with melee goobers.

>> No.53902411

Spheres of Power is the worst meme. Not only does it recommend minmaxing one sphere to get the best effect but its "reward" for branching out and combining different spheres is 4 Mile radius nuclear blasts

>> No.53902451

Do you have a sheet or something I can see. I had no clue telekinesis could do all that shit.

>> No.53902467


>> No.53902476

Divided Mind

You may lift multiple targets at once (up to 1 + 1 per caster level) whose combined size does not exceed your maximum telekinesis size. You may treat these objects as one effective object for the purpose of bludgeoning a creature, or you may make multiple bludgeons per round (although you cannot make more attacks in a round than would otherwise be allowed with your BAB and any respective feats if you possess the Flair or Dancing Weapon talents). If you spend a spell point to use Hostile Lift or Sustained Force, it may apply it to as many of these objects as applicable. You may also spend a spell point when using the Steal, Telekinetic Maneuver, or Telekinetic Push talents to affect multiple targets at once (up to one additional target per 2 caster levels, minimum: 1), although you cannot affect an individual target more than once per round with any combat maneuver.

Dancing Weapon

When using telekinesis to lift an object, that object counts as a melee weapon under your control. Allies may use it to flank, and if you possess the Flair talent, you may apply melee feats such as Power Attack to your actions with that bludgeon (you cannot treat a bludgeon as both a melee and a ranged weapon at the same time; you may apply either melee attack feats or ranged attack feats to an individual bludgeon, but not both). In addition, you may also add your casting ability modifier to all damage rolls made with a bludgeon.


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>> No.53902506

I don't see where the weapon are getting they're own AoO's unless he picked up combat expertise?

>> No.53902508

Yeah combat reflexes and its a dex build of course.

He uses his own AOOs for the knives, but thats still like 5 AOOs

>> No.53902533


>> No.53902552

Yikes. And where's his sneak attack coming from. iirc there isn't a sphere class that gets Mid Cl progression and sneak attack. HedgeWich has a faux sneak attack that costs inspirations but that's all that comes to mind.
Some suggestions
>Sunder focused enemies that can destroy the knives
>Mages using Sonic Destructive Blast AoE's to shatter the knives
>Mage Knights with some combat casting teleporting out of the pseudo blade barrier into melee.

>> No.53902581

Have you considered sonic damage?

>> No.53902764

sphere rogue

>> No.53903419

Now, I'm aware of the issues of feat taxing, but man it grinds my gears that he snuck that into a supposed fix for feat taxes, because he just straight-up removes the function for no fucking reason relating to feat taxes at all, seemingly for no other reason than him disliking the feat or something. If you set out to address a specific issue, you shouldn't consider that an opportunity to sneak in fixes to your personal hangups and flat-out remove game options.

>> No.53903668

Yeah, that's not a really great idea, because the creature can leave, hide, teleport....or make a deal with the thing the wizard was supposed to fight.

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