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>> No.53848896

Still no SW:A Rules to be found in any fuckin mega ...

>> No.53848899

First for Intercessors > Sternguards

>> No.53848905

third for NIDS

>> No.53848907

nth Tau WAACfags btfo about Riptides

>> No.53848910
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Is this a bad idea, do I need more?

>> No.53848914

Are scans of the rulebooks out yet?

>> No.53848919

What should I remodel my Harlies with?

They used to all have Kiss but that's completely over costed now.

>> No.53848921

thats enuff, save some points for commissars or Guilliman

>> No.53848923


>> No.53848928

PDF is out for some weeks

>> No.53848929

>falling for conscript memes

>> No.53848935
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My 2000 point ork list cost 1300 points in 7th

Ive got a bad feeling about this

>> No.53848937

anything on custodes? or a general table of contents?

>> No.53848939

Finished sleeping, you guys need anything else?

>> No.53848941

nids please

>> No.53848943
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Always kinda wondered how gene-seed was injected. Glad we finally have answer for that.

>> No.53848944

Can you hook a anon up? The ones in the OP are shitty pictures.

>> No.53848946

epubs please.

>> No.53848947

I think he means the proper, not-potato-quality ones, now that the epubs can be purchased.

>> No.53848957

Do you happen to have orkz?

>> No.53848958

thats what I'm talking about ^^

>> No.53848962
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This is the first edition launch I've been in the hobby to experience. It's a little silly, but I'm really excited. Splitting the starter box with a Nurgle friend, using the new space marines alongside my Guardsmen. Really like how big and chunky they seem to be, I hope they'll look good towering over my IG regulars.

>> No.53848969


>> No.53848972

Tarantulas, all land raider variants please

>> No.53848973

You're probably bringing toyz before boyz. Turn it around.

>> No.53848975

Fuck I love that guys art

>I will never be the only male priest in an order of horny sororitas
Why even live

>> No.53848977

Pretty much what I'm doing too. Been playing IG for ages and so gonna use the new Space Marines as Allies of my IG.

>> No.53848981


Don't buy direct from GW.
You can save several hundred dollars buying elsewhere.

>> No.53848983

I dont even own boyz

I only run nobz/megaz

>> No.53848988

Sicaran & Vendetta pls

>> No.53848991


>> No.53848996

Doing It Wrong: A Primer

>> No.53849003
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I need this in better quality and higher resolution

>> No.53849008

Vendetta is in the IG book which isn't out until the 23rd

>> No.53849014

Why would I run scrawny gitz when I can just run the ardest?

>> No.53849019

Good show. I'm still hoping for epubs of the already-leaked stuff.

>> No.53849025

shhhh let them.

>been playing IG since the late 90s
>can't wait for cheap 2nd hand minis to flood the market (again) soon

>> No.53849028

Renegade if you have them please!

>> No.53849033

me too brother

>> No.53849039

Because you need troops, you git. And Ork boyz are one of the best in the game.

>> No.53849041

Vehicles got more expensive because they got way tougher (while maintaining killyness - so they're not as killy per point)

>7-8 hours
not bad, scanon

>> No.53849043

Huh, was it bad of me to expect everything to be released at the same date?

Thanks anon

>> No.53849044
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Deathskulls or Blood Axes?

>> No.53849046

the epub would be nice :)

>> No.53849051

Nice one mate, thank you. Anything for Xenos?

>> No.53849052

>Because you need troops
No you dont

>> No.53849054

Does anyone here actually use FW stuff? It's been banned from our player group for ages.

>> No.53849057

Wtb DKoK

>> No.53849058

So for 8th, are multiple min squads better than one large squad?

>> No.53849062


I think he's buying them direct because those are the cheap snapfit Cadians that are only found on GW's site or in limited quantities elsewhere if at all.

>> No.53849065

>play orks
>don't actually play with orks


>> No.53849067

Min squads are better so you don't lose guys to morale.

>> No.53849068

Anyone able to get their IA: Index Astartes to work? I'm dying to see the Thunderhawk datasheet but can't DL it.

>> No.53849073

It's been standard even in tournaments since like 5th-6th edition. Banning it is a very outdated houserule at this point.

>> No.53849074

Are nobz not orks?

>> No.53849075

>Look Mom I posted it again!

>> No.53849078


>> No.53849079


Jesus. RIP.

>> No.53849081

>falling for the conscript meme when levithan rapenoughts exist

>> No.53849085

Any particular reason why a Hellforged Leviathan cant take two ranged options whilst the loyalist version can?

>> No.53849088

Not really "banned" here but they aren't used in tournaments and stuff.

Probably has something to do with the fact that they're hideously overpriced even compared to regular GW stuff so very few people here can actually afford to buy and ship the damn things. It's a fairness thing.

>> No.53849091

They are. I just don't really get it. Why not field ork boyz? Is it just for fluffy reasons?

>> No.53849100

I just dont like boyz. I dont like their models and I dont like playing with them

>> No.53849103

Loyalty is it's own reward.
Alternatively, because it's got more special rules and those are more geared towards combat, and so loyalists need something to make up for that. Balancing as it were.

Just be glad you got them at all. Fluffwise traitor levithans in m41 are so rare they might as well be unique.

>> No.53849114

>not using WHFB Black/Feral Orcs or 40K Nobs as your boys and using Orruks as your nobs

>> No.53849121

I believe the phrase you're looking for is "pay to win" and yes, FW shit is pay to win.

>> No.53849124
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how's this for a tau list?
Fusion commander deep strikes for vehicle killing.
Drone commander sits with drones + fire warriors and broadside so kauyon can get full value

>> No.53849128


Probably trying to shoehorn CSM into being more choppy than shooty. Guess you're supposed to go dinobot or tanks or something if you want a shooting vehicle.

>> No.53849133
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I'm really hoping GW sells the models in the Dark Imperium box separately and doesnt pull a Dark Vengeance and makes almost all of them exclusive to the set. I just want my Death guard and nothing else

>> No.53849134

Fair enough. This edition heavily favors mobs of boyz as the backbone of their army because of the awesome new Mob Rule.

On the other hand, MANZ got 3 wounds now.

Do you plan on fielding any walkers?

>> No.53849137


Every unit is pay to win. There is no correlation between monetary cost and efficiency. You can pay a lot of money and end up with a shit FW unit just like you can pay very little and get a good GW one.

>> No.53849139

In our case, we do have a few peeps who buy the originals just to cast them so they can make local copies that they can sell for much cheaper.

We usually treat FW stuff as cool models for display. Never to game with seriously.

>> No.53849145

Thanks! Any chanse to get xenos index?

>> No.53849146
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Re-posting my biker boss as im so proud of him

>> No.53849150

>p2w forgefag with lung cancer detected

>> No.53849151


I heard they're going to get actual Primaris kits out so they won't be reboxing those. I can see them selling the HQs individually and if they're asses to Chaos like usual, they'll rebox the Nurgle ones like they did with Dark Vengeance's CSM.

You'll probably get the unseen Nurgle units as multi-part and then they rebox the poxwalkers and stuff.

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Lisa Issodon is broken as fuckmonkeys. How many n the hell did anyone think 195 was reasonable for this bullshit?

>> No.53849156
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>pay to win
>in a hobby where you literally have to buy everything

>> No.53849159
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>plays krieg

>> No.53849163

>"I refuse to play any WAACfag who would actually field those filthy Elysians with their dune buggies and drop sentinels!"

>> No.53849164

Sure, give me a week.

>> No.53849166
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Thanks autocorrect, go burn in hell

>> No.53849167
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>he thinks the plastic dust from scraping moldlines off GW plastic wont give him cancer

>> No.53849173

Nice! I'll be waiting for you.

>> No.53849177

>he doesn't know posting on 4chan goves you cancer

>> No.53849179


>> No.53849182

>Caress, Embrace, and any pistol that is not neuro disruptor.


>> No.53849184


If you're the moron saying he's OP because of cover, you're an idiot, because characters are immune to shooting anyway unless he's the closest guy which is never going to happen.

His ability to deep strike infantry is less OP than his old one which simply infiltrated them, and he basically is just good for extra movement and a good gun.

>> No.53849186

Do you have access to the index? Can't get mine to download and I'm dying to see the Thunderhawk Gunship datasheet

>> No.53849188

>costs more
>has better rules
literally pay to win

>> No.53849192

The best units in the entire game last edition were GW

>> No.53849196
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>"I refuse to play any WAACfag who would actually field those filthy Elysians with their dune buggies and drop sentinels!"

>> No.53849197

>guilliman costs more money and points than a grot, and is also a better unit
>this means the game is pay to win
Yes fucktard, better things do cost more money and points, but you're absolutely retarded if you think that is exclusive to FW.

>> No.53849198

>has better rules

Too bad that's wrong.

>Riptide 7E
>Wraithknight 7E
>Scatterbikes 7E
>Warp Spiders 7E
>Wave Serpent 6E
>White Dwarf Tzeentch 6E
>7E Tzeentch psykers
>Necron Wraiths
>Necron 8E
>Solitaire 8E
>MT 8E
>Orks 8E
>IG 8E

Guess GW is save to win or something.

>> No.53849201

Dont worry, at this rate in 10 or so years you will be able to jack your brain to the computer.

And believe me, some japanese guy will make not only that.

>> No.53849202

Can someone hit a brother with an ePub of the 8th Ed Rulebook? Ain't got $40-65 US Funbucks lying around

>> No.53849206

That was my first post in three days, and the gun alone is grounds for a WTF argument. There is no weapon on any vehicle or character that has -4 rend at less than strength 7, and all are heavies aside from meltagun equivalents or the new hell blasters.

TL;DR he's too cheap for gun performance and ease of entering firing range of a priority target untouched

>> No.53849211

7E D-99 were rapey anon
Though most of that rapeyness came from 100 points valk spam which is still a gw model

>> No.53849213

If you can find it by yourself why do you think you deserve help? Seriously to be posting here and not be able to find it makes you basically retarded.

Hears hoping a little shame allows you to turn you brain on.

>> No.53849217

Thank you anon, this is what I was looking for

>> No.53849220

He doesn't mean the shitty-quality pdfs. He means the actual epubs.

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>> No.53849231


>> No.53849240

They should stick that increased range thing on all flyers.

>> No.53849246

As you should be. Very nice.

>> No.53849249

Anon, Sicaran pls

>> No.53849256
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Dat main gun

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>> No.53849260

any suggestions for my tau?

>> No.53849267
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Sicaran works out to 290 with la

>> No.53849271

For the anons who don't understand. A few of us other anons are looking for the epubs of the GW indexes and the rulebook.
We don't mean the pdfs already provided, we have them already. We mean the proper epubs. The ones that aren't just a collection of pictures taken of the book from a phone.
So if anyone could provide those, that'd be just great.

>> No.53849273

>literally lists all of the GW pay to win models
Just because FW is all pay to win doesn't mean that GW doesn't make pay to win models

>> No.53849274

Anyone got the SM FW epub?

>> No.53849277
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*lascannon sponsons

Pic related about 240 with missiles

>> No.53849278

>tarantulas lose 1T and gain 2W
what did they mean by this?

>> No.53849280

>He doesn't know that Trump will illegalize cancer
4D checkmate

>> No.53849281
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Land Raider 1/4

>> No.53849288

Thank you anon

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>> No.53849290

What would be the best loadout for Raptors this edition? Plasma pistols have become kinda appealing finally, but is keeping the extra attack from a chainsword worth loosing the use of a proper plasma gun or meltagun?

>> No.53849291

>FW is all pay to win

Literally the only good FW units are for armies that were already top tier thanks to GW (IE Eldar and Tau)

>> No.53849292
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my 1k for for the first game after the launch.

>> No.53849295


I need to know how you survive on such little sleep.

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>> No.53849301

is there anything on custodes or sisters of silence?

>> No.53849303
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Can't wait to see kustom stompa

>> No.53849304

10/10 would be honoured to lose against

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Well I went to sleep about 3am and got up about 10 am so that's 7 hours.

>> No.53849309

Anyone leaked the epubs yet? I've got work in the morning and our internet is crazy filtered.

>> No.53849311

Could you please confirm that there is no Bran Redmaw in that book?

>> No.53849317
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>> No.53849320

Nope, those units are all stuck as HH exclusives still :(

>> No.53849321


Those will get charged and tarpitted all game, or easily focused by cheap AT.

>> No.53849323

>45 points for a twin asscannon tarantula
It's like FW saw horde spamwould be a problem and decided to find as many ways to fuck it over as they could.
Not that I'm complaining.

>> No.53849328

So you're saying that FW decided to allow you to pay for a way to win?

>> No.53849329

There isn't, no Korvydae either.

Vengeance launcher is now one of the best saturation fire weapons marines have

>> No.53849332

I'm trying to figure out if this is good. I'm leaning toward yes.

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No bran flakes either. Shame, I need to go get breakfast.

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>> No.53849338

lel, a razorback can charge a blob and shoot twin assault cannons after dropping off a squad of flamer vets

>> No.53849339

>charging it
what are screen units? Come one, that's just basic stuff.

As for Anti-tank, it's a landraider with 2 less wounds but a 4++.
Levithans aren't felled easily you need to dedicate more than some cheap anti-tank to bring it down.

>> No.53849346

>Merging with computers
I am not looking forward to the future we seem to be heading towards

>> No.53849354

Replace one assault and one devastator squad with something else and you get a fluffy combat company army

>> No.53849355

can you hook us up with wargear costs? You're a saint btw

>> No.53849360

Any news on FW chapters? Raptors in particular

>> No.53849362


Not doing new screenshots till I've sorted breakfast, but you can find them two threads back in the meantime.

>> No.53849366

I have a rules question regarding Tyranids:

Regarding the wargear options (for hive tyrants, carnifexes etc) , where does it state what is a Monstrous bioweapon etc ?

There isn't an actual list of weapon types, so what hinders me at taking two fleshborer hives?

>> No.53849369

Lias is in this thread a bit up. Search for the QQ about OPiness and you'll find him.

No chapter tactics so far.

>> No.53849371


Nothing but special Charaters like Tyerbos and Lias.

>> No.53849372

alright man, thanks for your time

>> No.53849376

Brigade needs 3 fast attack and 3 heavy support units, I made this for fun just t see how many marines I can fit in a 2k Brigade.

>> No.53849378
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I'm thinking of getting back into the game, can someone bring me up to speed on what I missed in the past 10 years? I have a bunch of Eldar and Tau from back then--is there anything I need to update?

>> No.53849379

Yeah, Lias being posted was why I asked.. Thanks tho :(

>> No.53849388

Has anyone got a leak of the Tantalus and Reaper for forgeworld dark eldar?

>> No.53849390

The wargear lists are at the start under the faction special rules and psychic table.

>> No.53849395
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I'm trying out Death Company in the new edition, what do you all think about this 1k list?

>> No.53849402


>> No.53849403

Why don't you look at what the release date is for the Xenos book?

>> No.53849404


Man, I wish. I have a small forge world Custodes force mainly because of my unquenchable dreadnought-lust.

But nope, we're still using an update of the shitty Talons supplement for 40k. 3 units squashed awkwardly into one, the godawful Calth contemptor and shiny gold land raiders.

>> No.53849407

There are planes and superheavies in normal 40k now. Tau got a lot of new stuff that's pretty strong, but Eldar could get by on old models with some light conversion work probably. The rules are pretty different to 4th edition though

>> No.53849410


Oh god, you're right. I was looking the entire time in the appendix


>> No.53849437
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Fellow Chaos Enthusiasts! Let's discuss 8th ed. tactics, unit tiers and shit like that!

So Terminators... You grab 5 with combi plasmas and you DS them. min distance from enemy models is 9 inches, which is rapid fire range. So you can either get 10 bolter shots + 10 plasma shots at BS 4+, or 10 plasma with BS 3+. And they should stay alive and shoot again next turn. Seems bretty gud to me.

Rhinos: you can load them up with a combi weapon and a havoc launcher and be an annoying, cheap, durable shit, or you could use them as mobile LoS blockers / assault breakers. Hell, you can tie enemy fire support in CC!

Defilers: nearly fucking immortal with good weaponry. Ugly AF model though.

Jugger Lord plus a bunch of spawn seem like an appropriately scary and durable bunch.

Khorne Berzerkers: like basic marines, but SUPER killy in CC. Maybe worth delaying the Rhinos' quest for Annoying Shit Of The Year Award (TM) to deliver these bad boys to the enemy?

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>> No.53849456

please help
I need to do a test-paint of some of these, but as I can't see them in better detail, I can't start.

>> No.53849459

The giant chaos spawn is crazy good for only 75 points. Zarakynel or whatever the slaanesh demon Lord is called looks pretty solid for the price too

>> No.53849463


Oh I thought they were staying true to their word and releasing at the same time, my bad

>> No.53849467

Look at the SWAG thread.

>> No.53849468
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>Typhus: 164 Points
>Lord of Contagion: 184 Points

but typhus is exactly the same as the lord of contagion but with an extra ranged attack, an AOE aura buff to poxwalkers, and psychic powers. What's going on here?

>> No.53849469

shadow wars: armageddon, basically necromunda v2

>> No.53849471

SW:A, that has its own general

>> No.53849480


Probably the Lord of Contagion will have a boat load of options like relics and stuff when a Codex for them drops.

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You know, a Conversion Beamer on a contemptor was garbage before because you could only take one and everthing else about the dread said move and shoot, get in close.

But with two... Could be pretty good. BS2+ and squat on top of a building in the corner shooting away.

>> No.53849483

Just noticed there's a Relic Sicaran Punisher now, can ya please post it?

>> No.53849488


Tarantulas have always been dirt cheap. They were 25-35 points last edition.

>> No.53849490

>forge word chaos forces index
>no renegades and heretics

Life is suffering.

>> No.53849492

Anybody have the rules for Chaos Contemptors? I would love to see them

>> No.53849499


>> No.53849502

>was this close to buying a Spartan
>relic keyword rule
Welp, no fun for me I guess

>> No.53849503

Are flyers worth it?

>> No.53849520
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Considering how mixed the stuff on the frames are, that's highly unlikely, unless you want to pay 2/3 of the Dark Imperium price-tag for all the models of one of the two armies in the set.

>> No.53849523


With the way -1 to hit works, sure

>> No.53849525

>giant chaos spawn
what giant chaos spawn?

>> No.53849527

It's DEADDDDD, just like all GW box game.

Nigger, did you fell into a coma for the past months? should've get the rule while the game is still relevant.


Link will be up for about 4 hours, so you better fucking download it quick.

>> No.53849531

They are in the Astra Militarum Index, most likely because they share a lot of the FW IG options and reprinting them all in different books would be wasteful.

>> No.53849533


The ones with good guns are.

>> No.53849535


>> No.53849539

Some are. For instance, Harpies should be considered in a nid list, for their ability to deal mortal wounds to characters. It's a strange form of sniping, and the only form that Nids have besides Mawlocs. In a Dark Eldar List, Razorwings might be one of the best units in the index.

>> No.53849549

Worth taking a Stormtalon Gunship with Typhoon Missile Pods? Seems like a handy, fast and versatile flyer for SM.

>> No.53849550

if you don't want to play a named character you diserve the tax.

>> No.53849551

Can a Valkyrie take only 1HB spoonson?

Valerie's data slate doesn't specify how many HK rockets it comes with, can I slap 8 of these on it?

>> No.53849557

From the video preview is confirmed that Death Guard is going to have a separate multi part Plague Marines at least

>> No.53849560

How are fortifications? ADL?

>> No.53849572


Small ones aren't really worth it unless you're allowed to use unlimited detachments. Normal detachment count is 3 if I'm not mistaken.

>> No.53849576

They don't do that anymore. Look at Deathwatch: Overkill for example. Other than the Genestealer Aberrants everything in that set can be bought separately, and not only that but come in multi-pose kits with tons of options compared to the snapfit versions in the boxed game.

>> No.53849578

anyone have any of the forge world index pdf's?

>> No.53849586

They should let you take as many HK missiles as you have on the model.

>cover model in glue
>toss in box of missiles

>> No.53849588

Turn 1 charges are common now for melee armies, static gunlines don't work as well anymore.

You need to separate your units and rotate with fall back rule.

>> No.53849589

got the paper one but i wanted one for my Reader.

ty nigga

>> No.53849597

RAW that's what you get.

>> No.53849598

That makes no fucking sense, all of the models cost money. They aren't the most expensive pound-per-point or anything. Wave Serpents were pretty cheap money-wise and took up plenty of points, the army was cheap to buy. Meanwhile Pyrovores were one of the most expensive models for their points cost and size, and they were shit.

The price of the model has zero bearing on how effective it is in-game. There are plenty of examples of models that are expensive in money but not great in rules. It's all about how they can make that model profitable compared to how hard it is to produce.

>> No.53849599

But should still slow down the enemy, right? Could be used to cover artillery and give an AA gun. And keep the enemy from deep-striking too close to the artillerty

>> No.53849606


>Raven Guard Scouts built with Scourge heads

Clever fucking girl.

>> No.53849617

It's 75points tho, 2 units of guardsmen cost 40 and can cover more space to block DS deployment.

>> No.53849622

Yeah... I really don't understand why. Were they really that limited on printing capacity?

>> No.53849631

Haven't seen the stats yet, is why I asked
Sure it's 75 pts?

>> No.53849632

*Cost 40 each

>> No.53849637
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Drop pods!

Top one is utter garbage, costing 120 points to give a dreadnought deep strike and do exactly nothing else.

Second one seems pretty cool, assault cannon or missile launcher every unit that comes within an area denial zone.

>> No.53849679

I don't think you understand what pay to win means in a game.

An example of pay to win would be a video game that's free to play online, but you can spend money on special equipment or whatever, and that special stuff is better than the free stuff and is the only way to be competitive. That's pay to win.

Games workshop is not pay to win. It would only be pay to win if it was obviously demonstrable that they charged more money for the most competitive models. They don't.

>> No.53849694
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>conversion beamer shortened to C-beam
Is that a Blade Runner reference?

>> No.53849697


Seems to be corrupted for me, recommended reader?

>> No.53849702

>ebay sells 8th rulebooks for $60
>GW sells em separately for $100

Thank you based box splitters. Its outrageous that matched play requires such a huge fuck you tax when we're already coughing up $40 for the indexes.

>> No.53849710

So, can Deathwatch use FW stuff with <chapter> ? Do they count as chapter for this purpose now ? Also does Contemptor Mortis no longer have carapace mounted missile launcher, only the two guns ?

>> No.53849711


The DV rulebook was even cheaper. Like $20 on eBay.

>> No.53849715

Are normal grey Knights going to be replaced by primaris marines?

>> No.53849720


Contemptor Mortis never had carapace weapons. Only the Deredeo and Leviathan have top mounts.

>> No.53849723

>Herp derp models cost money and you need models to play the game and even have a chance to win, LOL omg pay2win


>> No.53849743


I dunno m80 i made a really strong kroot list that's gonna cost me £420 for 1000 points

>> No.53849753

Well the frames can be recut, it's what they did with the dark vengeance cultists after all. Unlikely they'll do it here though, especially with a lot of the units likely getting multi-part kits in the near future.

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The fuck are you talking about ? Two miniguns plus the carapace missile launcher was always the most popular loadout for them.

>> No.53849763

Even if a character like the Imperial Regent is not anywhere near other models, you can't shoot him if there is any other unit closer to you.

He can be off in a field by himself, but that scout squad an inch closer is more important to kill.

>> No.53849768
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Hope about dem epubs for the New Rules and Indexes. Eh eh?

>> No.53849775
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did they release the free rules yet?

>> No.53849778

>my Harliquins are now useless but my Adarkis are now boss
A win, I guess?
Also, wracks are FINALLY troops choices.

>> No.53849783

First link in op

>> No.53849785

Dakka took down the images. Does anyone have a link to the imgur galleries people made for the FW leaks? Thanks!

>> No.53849792



Honestly I think I might email them about this one, it's a pretty annoying when I've modeled Contemptors like that.

>> No.53849795

I can't bring a pirated rulebook to Geedubs.

>> No.53849811


Been so long I totally forgot about that thing and it's inferior head.

>> No.53849816

>I can't bring a pirated rulebook to Geedubs.

hehe, i've been banned for much less. All you have to do is wait for the yearly firing of the red shirt and you're in the clear. its worth the risk

>> No.53849822

Rewrite the parts relevant to your faction in notepad then print them out and laminate them (along with your army lists) and use the store copy for disputes

>> No.53849823

Be brave and go for it. But first we got to get those things pirated. Hint hint. Nudge nudge.


>> No.53849824
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> i've been banned for much less
You had my curiosity, now you had my attention

>> No.53849839

still no suggestions/feedback?

>> No.53849841

Thoughts on the Rhino Primaris?

>> No.53849844

Why's no one been talking about the 24 hour GW livestream? There's a live game right about to start of Tyranids vs Blood Angels, Duncan is casting.

>> No.53849851

just say your copy of the book is in the bookshelf because you don't want it to wear down in use

>> No.53849852

Are there any decent images of the Primaris booklet from the Dark Imperium set? Specifically, I would like to see some legible pictures of the fluff section, as well as the section regarding color schemes and heraldry for chapters other than the Ultramarines.

>> No.53849855

>tfw I realized last night that I lost my 4K point Space Marine army earlier this year while moving houses.
I was so excited about playing today as well.

>> No.53849860

How much should I expect to sell some SoS/custodes for? I am never going to use them so I might as well givem to someone who will

>> No.53849864

The stream is not working for me, it's permanently loading

>> No.53849865

Is that the one they hosting on Facebook?

I tried watching but i need an account, fuck that.
Biggest event in their history and they put it behind a barrier lol

>> No.53849867


>> No.53849869

1/3rd of retail for built minis, assuming they are in good condition, is a reasonable rule of thumb

>> No.53849871

>not having a facebook

>> No.53849876

holy fuck, what the hell happend?

>> No.53849877

>i need an account
No, you don't.


>> No.53849884

we all watch dreamhack

>> No.53849885

>using zuckerburg's botnet in the current year

>> No.53849886

I want to make an army that's a rogue trader and his personal warband. Is it probable/plausible that such a force would use locally produced vehicles and gear rather than official imperial stuff?

>> No.53849889

How much for sprues? I never resold anything warhammer yet so thanks for the insight

>> No.53849891

Blood Bowl isn't dead.

>> No.53849893

well its not working and the sign in pops up eventually

god knows why they dont put it on twitch like any sane person would do

>> No.53849896
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Could such a list work or is it just pure meme and I should really take some Tactical Marines?
Drop Captain + Jump assault near one of the peskier infantry unit, Librarian a bit behind to cast Veil of time.
Missile launcher could of course be replaced by lascannons against mech-lists, I just know for a fact my main opponents use few vehicles so I figured an all-rounder would be best.

>> No.53849898

I've been watching it for three hours, no account. Fix your shit!

>> No.53849900

any pdf's of the forge world index's?

>> No.53849903


>> No.53849906

>being a paranoid nutcase in the current year.

>> No.53849909

New on Sprue is reasonable to go for 60-70% of retail, since you can usually get new in box stuff for around 80% easily enough online

>> No.53849912

Daemonettes of Slaanesh are sold out online at GW.

New daemonettes when?

>> No.53849920

I aint fixing shieeeeet.
Dumb fucks decide to host it on a dodgy platform when twitch works perfectly every time, its their loss not mine.

>> No.53849935

The fox and the grapes much? Kek

>> No.53849937

Not him, but it's not paranoid nor a nutcase when it's true. You'd have to willfully ignore shit to not know how much of a botnet facebook is.
That said, there's little reason not to have a throwaway or two for facebook.

>> No.53849939

Meant for >>53849889 ?

>> No.53849946
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>Order still pending on GW

>> No.53849958

>when twitch works perfectly every time
too bad i'm too dumb to navigate twitch

>> No.53849964

Just make a throwaway account using a temp email or something

>> No.53849966


i refused to use a deodorant, so they banned me because of the body odor.
also, some people had a problem with me eating doritos while playing the game. whatever, i just switched stores for a while

>> No.53849969

>I smell and make a mess

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>> No.53849985

>i refused to use a deodorant
Are you retarded?

>> No.53849993
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Let me know which store, sounds like they run a tight ship. Would play in.

>> No.53849994


Were you also exposing your buttcrack?
You sound like someone who still uses points instead of power level

>> No.53850001

>I refused to use deodorant, so they banned me because of the body odor
Literally why, you smelly messy fuck

>> No.53850013

I am a B.O. fetishist

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>> No.53850029

its garbage top down for 75% of the screen anyways

>> No.53850030
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please don't make this meme die

>> No.53850031

I dig this bait

>> No.53850032

Like pottery.

>> No.53850034

>order shipped last night from east coast
>i live on west coast
hello new rules and army on wed. i guess

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>> No.53850059


where you at senpai?

im in the UK and have two boxes of Dark Imperium on order and I dont want the nurgle stuff.

>> No.53850067

Are feotid bloat-drones any good?

>> No.53850077

Anyone collected the IA stuff in a single PDF yet?

>> No.53850083
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>people at my LGS are adamant about using power level for some reason
>if I want to fill a trukk with boyz I have to choose between either paying for 10 extra boyz but only bringing 2 extra, or just living with only bringing 10 and having 2 empty spots in the trukk
cool system

>> No.53850089

You're shooting a stealthsuit with an overcharged plasmagun.

You roll a 2, modified to 1. It fails, but do you explode?

You have +1 Bs and shooting overcharged plasmagun. You roll a 1, modified to 2. It still fails because your roll was a 1 which is unaffected, but do you explode?

>> No.53850092

just smuggle a couple into the unit. no one will notice.

that or ask nicely.

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>> No.53850104

needs a larger font.

>> No.53850109

Do I buy 10 Striking Scorpions off Trademe for 75NZD (normally 6 for 75NZD) or a wraithlord for 77NZD?

>> No.53850110

>tfw EXACTLY 9 tank bustas
>one is useing a useless tank hammer

>> No.53850111
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>From beyond the boundaries of reality, the Chaos Gods look upon the galaxy with covetous eyes. It is their nature, their all-consuming purpose, to destroy. Relentless and unstoppable, all of their incomprehensible energies are directed to collapsing reason and perverting order.

>Far from the light of sun or star lies the infernal, ever-changing Realm of Chaos. There, the four Dark Gods rule supreme – the mutable landscapes serving as battlegrounds for their daemonic legions. Their rivalry is eternal, each god seeking dominance over his brothers. As one power gains mastery through warfare, manipulation, corruption or sorcery, the others combine against him. New pacts flourish until another conqueror emerges, only to be thrown down in his turn. Yet there is one thing that can compel these opposing powers to put aside their differences for a time and work together. For, above all else, the Chaos Gods lust to push through the boundary that separates them from the mortal plane, to unleash their wanton destruction upon the physical galaxy. Nothing short of total annihilation will ever sate these fiends, the dragging of all reality into the Realm of Chaos

-8th ED rulebook

So the Chaos Gods have an all consuming desire to annihilate the galaxy and everything in it. So who programmed to desire this? Why do they want this? Explain, /tg/. For what purpose does this destruction serve!?

Anyways, I wanna dump the new 8th ED lore somewhere. Should I do it here or a new thread?

>> No.53850121
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How quickly will I get tabled with this list?

>> No.53850122

In a game that relies on familiarity with your opponent's units and models, fielding rare/expensive stuff is a hidden advantage vs those who cannot afford such units.

Banning them from tourney play makes things much simpler.

It's why we do it.

>> No.53850123

They want to make Age of Guilliman.

>> No.53850124

Why are they useless?

>> No.53850130

Yes to first question, no to second.

A moving russ shooting a vehicle that popped smoke with overcharged plasma cannons detonates on a 1 2 or 3.

>> No.53850134

>inb4 37 models single conscript blob has more bodies yadda yadda yadda

>> No.53850136

It also explains, why you have no friends.

>> No.53850137

Yeah man those tournament-winning roughriders gotta watch out for them

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>> No.53850142

Here is fine, thanks for sharing.
I guess they want to make the Chaos Gods more like forces of nature.

>> No.53850144

>non sequitur

we're obviously referring to the units that don't exist in a normal codex.

>> No.53850146


Chaos is destruction.

Chaos is the epitome of the dark desires of reality made manifest.

Chaos is a slave to these dark desires, being that they are fashioned from them.

Destruction is only natural to them, whether it's accomplished on the end of an axe or the tip of a pen.

They care not.

>> No.53850150

wew lads

>> No.53850153

loses to 2364 conscripts in one turn as long as they're all in rapid fire range, all have commissar and officer coverage, and the other player vigorously rubs his nipples while rolling to hit

>> No.53850158

don't forget the priest with triple eviscerators

>> No.53850159


>For much of the millennium the planet of Armageddon had been a battleground. First invaded by Chaos, it was later the site for a massive war between the Ork hordes of Ghazghkull Thraka and the forces of the Imperium. Although the infamous greenskin leader left to establish new stomping grounds, the onslaught continued. Not even the hellstorms unleashed by the Great Rift could halt the fighting, but they did change its nature. During the Noctis Aeterna, reinforcements were cut off for both sides, and those en route to the system were swept into oblivion. Those that remained on Armageddon were forced to fight off not just each other, but the oncoming waves of Daemons. At times, so desperate were the defenders that Ork and humans fought alongside each other against the greater threat. Such temporary ceasefires never lasted long.

>By the time the Astronomican returned and travel through the storm-ridden immaterium was once again possible, the Imperial relief force arrived to find the landscape greatly changed. At the height of the warp storms, the forces of Tzeentch and Khorne had battled each other. The Orks and Imperial forces sought cover as titanic Greater Daemons duelled for supremacy. Fully half the planet had warped into what looked like a Daemon world – a hellish landscape merged over the top of what had once been a war-torn hive world. The Imperial forces, with elements of nine Space Marine Chapters led by the Salamanders, succeeded in halting the ritual that would have brought Angron, the Primarch of the World Eaters, back to the planet that had defied him in ages past

Daemons have joined the party Armageddon. Too bad the main guest of honour was denied entry.

>> No.53850168

What does the crystal targeting matrix do? I can't find the rules for it in the leaks.

>> No.53850169

forgeworld units are seen more often than expensive OOP metal roughriders that still have rules in the GW codex

Forgeworld should be banned because they can't into balance and any FW is a slipperly slope to every FW

not because they're rare

>> No.53850173

Plasma only overheats on a natural 1. Ignore modifiers for purposes of Gets Hot unless the FAQ says otherwise.

>> No.53850175

This. The recent leaks show that FW is still garbage at balance. I don't mind them in friendly games but I'd rather not see them in tournaments.

>> No.53850180

because GW too lazy to write something better than 'we iz evil n shit'

its why i play non chaos worshipping csm. Even plain piracy and rebellion is better than the old 'i destroy everything' bad guy trope

>> No.53850182

Thanks for the answer.

>A moving russ shooting a vehicle that popped smoke with overcharged plasma cannons detonates on a 1 2 or 3.

>> No.53850183

>Ignore modifiers for purposes of Gets Hot unless the FAQ says otherwise.

What page is this rule on?

>> No.53850192

Very end of the craftworlds wargear. Removes the penalty for moving and shooting heavy weapons.

>> No.53850197

FW units aren't unbalanced, their costs and strength are in line with their cognate GW units.

>> No.53850198

It's not clarified either way, but it says hit ROLL of 1, not result of 1. Roll implies it's talking about the actual facing of the die, not the result after modifiers.

>> No.53850199
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>There are many dynasties of Necrons, some of which have not yet reawoken. The greatest of the arisen Necron empires is that of the Sautekh Dynasty. They are led by Imotekh the Stormlord, a peerless warrior and pitiless commander. Beneath his tactical mastery, the Sautekh legions have mercilessly carved themselves a new empire. Under Imotekh’s aggressive strategies, his dynasty has reclaimed dozens of systems and united many disparate Necron worlds under its glorious banner. The crownworld – the phaeron’s seat of power – is Mandragora, on the Eastern Fringe. It has always been Imotekh’s wish to reunite all tomb worlds beneath his rule and nothing can deter his plans, not even rampant Daemon incursions. As the Great Rift opened, the Stormlord launched his Absorption Wars, a many-pronged campaign to seize dozens of tomb worlds awakened by the warp influx. Imotekh sought to conquer them before they could fully rise from their stasis slumber, ensuring the continued rise of the Sautekh.

The text says that Imotekh is the greatest strategist to ever walk the galaxy. The whole rift thing did nothing to derail his plans of.....warring against other Necrons. Yep, fighting your kind as the galaxy is being overrun by Chaos is sure smart, my Phaeron.

>> No.53850200

lol power level retards btfo yet again

>> No.53850208

It makes more sense if you consider chaos born from the horrors of the War in Heaven.

but they retconned that

>> No.53850210

Can someome help me identify the colours used for the green/blue armour?

>inb4 blue and green

>> No.53850217


Balls, forgot link


>> No.53850234
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It seems the Necrons are not the only Xenos into infighting.

Hive Fleet Hydra is ignoring bio-rich worlds to attack and consume splinters of other Hive Fleets. As you can see from the map, Hydra is nom noming at Leviathan.

But the question is....why?

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Not so fast

>> No.53850250


Because Kerrigan is in charge of that hive fleet :)

>> No.53850256



>> No.53850261

That's so cool

>> No.53850266
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Too much anti tank for 1000 points? Should I drop some Fire Dragons for more Avengers or maybe Scorpions?

>> No.53850272

Collating all the genetic adaptations over splinters may have obtained.

>> No.53850280

Where did you get the raven guard rhino front and sides? Forgeworld?

>> No.53850285

Hydra is a famous nid hobbyist who does a ton of conversions.

>> No.53850297

hector rex, hellsmith on abeyant, fire raptor and fellblade please?

>> No.53850303
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Cadia has fallen but the Cadian Gate remains defiant somehow...

Makes no sense to me, doc.

>> No.53850317

Not really. Plasma detonates on a 1, not on a 1or less. So rolls of 1 and 2 results in 0 and -1.

>> No.53850331

To those of you who have been playing 8th for the last week: what has been your standard format so far points wise? 1000pts/1500pts/2000pts?

>> No.53850333

Cadia the planet has fallen. Cadia the system is still a warzone (nothing new that it consisted of more, less important fortress worlds).


>> No.53850334

What is the equivalent of a 2K army in power level?

>> No.53850341

2k is the new tournament standard if that's what you're looking for. 1500 is perfectly good for casual fun games.

>> No.53850345

Solomon Lok please!

>> No.53850350

100 power

>> No.53850351

It's actually a great strategy. He's submitting those Necron Worlds as soon as they reveal themselves, but before they fully awaken. So his troops have an easy time and when they finally manage to awaken fully they are under his control, so he's gaining lots of armies and manpower with little effort.

Remember that necrons vs necrons wars are like Tyranids ones, nobody loses anything, it just change the leadership.

>> No.53850355

It's all over the place depending on the army and what you're bringing.
100 PL is generally agreed to be the equivalent, but that is rarely the truth.

>> No.53850362


Hive Mind Hydra is a team killing spawn camping fucktard.

>> No.53850363

does any one have link to the epubs of every thing the two FW ones and the 6 gw books?

>> No.53850386

it sounds like people who bought them can't download them yet?

>> No.53850388
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SPESS WOOF + Aledari vs Dust bins + Bird daemons.

And Mordia defies Chaos again. woohoo.

>> No.53850393

What? I deleted the other two.

>> No.53850402


My 1600 points of Grey Knights is 120 power. Don't use power levels.

>> No.53850403

>buying anything ever from gw as a kiwi

forgeworld, while fw-priced, at least doesn't have a special brand of fucking especially for kiwi buttholes.

indexes are 15 quid across the board...
for nz gw sells indexes for how fucking much!?

>> No.53850419
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Hahahaha...It's Khorne time.

Hive fleets, tomb worlds, and swathes of Imperial worlds fell to Khorne's bloody crusade, and it's only the first wave. Can anyone stop the slaughter?!

Khorne is best god confirmed.

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Hive Fleet convergence is not team killing. It's very good for the Tyranids and bad for everyone else.

>> No.53850447

Ghazzy and the Swarmlord teamed up and BTFO Khorne, holy shit.

>> No.53850458

>War in the Rift
I want to know what this is.

>> No.53850462


Probably Chaos fighting one another over the worlds caught in the Warp Rift that's divided the galaxy.

>> No.53850465

No matter what you hoped, you knew all along it'd take 2-4 days after release. You knew this but got your hopes up regardless. You have no one to blame but yourself. Should have ordered it to a GW if you* needed* it release day.

>> No.53850467

>Kharn - legend
I´ll be in my bunk

>> No.53850476

Would you think more or less of a space marine player who plays exclusively Primaris?

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>> No.53850480

Skarbrand, Ka'Bandha, Doombreed, Kharn, and the entire World Eaters legion, plus over a hundred daemonhosts, all combined, could not beat the two NPC races, and Tzeentch had to tell Khorne to stop being a retard and retreat.

Top fucking cake.

>> No.53850486
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Admech Brigade, for 2.5k games. Tried to include a little of everything, I like the versatility of 8e Mech. Was originally going to be a bit of a detachment melange, but then I realized I just needed one more Troop and FA and to split up the Fulgurites to make it a Brigade, and probably didn't need the other two shooty bots. I considered running the Kastelans as melee, but I have Fulgurites for that and kinda needed some more MEQ munching.

Cawl (250)
Dominus, Macrostubber and Volkite (135)
Dominus, Macrostubber and Volkite (135)


10 Vanguard, 3 Plascals, Omnispex (149)
10 Vanguard, 3 Plascals, Omnispex (149)
10 Vanguard, 3 Plascals, Omnispex (149)
5 Rangers, 2 Arquebi, Omnispex (107)
5 Rangers, 2 Arquebi, Omnispex (107)
5 Vanguard (50)


10 Fulgurites (160)
10 Fulgurites (160)
Cybernetica Datasmith (52)

Fast Attack:

Dragoon, Lance, Serpenta (74)
Dragoon, Lance, Serpenta (74)
Balistarius, Twin Autocannon (75)

Heavy Support:

Dunecrawler, Neutron and 2x Stubber (151)
Dunecrawler, Neutron and 2x Stubber (151)
Dunecrawler, Neutron and 2x Stubber (151)
Kastelan Maniple of 2, full Phosphor (220)

Total is 2499, would like to have Data-Tethers on my Vanguard but points are a thing and I have 12CP for autopass if saving some random Vanguard is that important.
Dragoon pair scouts out, deploys near a couple units if possible for a turn of +1Ld before racing off to tie up enemy shooty and stall assault boats. Ironstrider is entirely there to finish damaged units and generally be a bit of a dick.

Rangers find sniping spots, Crawlers if possible deploy in the Cawl Concave for rerolls with the Boop Maniple in front and dakka things, if needed they can advance with the Kastelans with their 8" move to find a spot for Turret Mode.

The 5 Vanguard follow the Fulgurites around and help them out debuffing enemy toughness, they're cheap and might hold an objective or something.

>> No.53850487

Maybe if they stopped naming planets thematically appropriate things, maybe Nurgle wouldn't try so hard.

>> No.53850489

no because seeing the different sizes one together looks retarded to me, either one or the other

>> No.53850495

FW Leaker-kun! Please, I need the Mantis Warrior Librarian character's rules.

>> No.53850501



>> No.53850503


>> No.53850507


I wonder what went on on that Knight world.

>> No.53850511

Probably Khorne.

Unless Fulgrim showed up.

>> No.53850516


Maybe those are the planets new names after Nurgle got done with them?

>> No.53850522

Black Consuls are alive.

>> No.53850525

It's like the time the nids ate Prandium. The Imperium really needs to learn.

>> No.53850531

So, when can we expect the full epubs?

>> No.53850535

FW Chaos index is here https://mega.nz/#!5a5zlaBB!uw2JBcVWat8XvlzLUIEBOFoNcjT1X3Rk0sWNcnwYAfk
from >>53847857
haven't seen the rest yet

>> No.53850544

The text says that the Blood Crusade invasion in most cases lasts just a few hours before being drawn back to the Warp. They didn't BTFO anything. They merely survived.

You just can't beat Khorne. It's impossible.

>> No.53850551

Blood angels getting raped by tyranids on stream so hard the (((inquisition))) shut it down.

>> No.53850554

Any chance we'll be seeing the dedicated Chaos Warlord Titans like the Banelord and such?

>> No.53850557

For the sake of my sanity I'm going to go ahead and believe that after a planet falls to Chaos the Inquisition renames it something appropriate based on who conquered it.

>> No.53850564

It said in most cases they won in just a few hours, but in Octarius they got fought to a standstill and left after Tzeentch told Khorne it was time to give up and to come play in the Rift War.

>> No.53850573

>duncans voice finally broke

>> No.53850579

Does anyone have a pdf or epub for the Forces of Chaos index yet?

>> No.53850593


r u srs

>> No.53850595

Cmon dude

>> No.53850597

It's been posted/linked three times afaik

>> No.53850606

I think he's referring to the GW one, not FW

>> No.53850608

It just says that in thousands of battles the Blood Crusade was matched twice. Octarius being one of them.

The Tzeentch invitation has no timeline on it so it could of happened after the Blood Crusade disappeared from Octarius. The fact remains that the Blood Crusade mostly attacks for a few hours before disappearing to the next battlefiend. The Nids and Orks combined can easily survive a few hours.

>> No.53850627

Why Angron can't simply move from warp like Magnus or Mortarion?

>> No.53850629










>> No.53850633

Morty and Magnus know magics. Angron cannot into magics.

>> No.53850638

Speaking of Mortarion, anyone have an idea of the release date?

>> No.53850647

He was banished unlike the other two, who could just stroll back into realspace.

>> No.53850660

Where is heck is Draigo?!

>> No.53850666

Talked to a manager at GW yesterday no news on non monopose or any of the DG termies or mortarion. it's a shit show boys

>> No.53850670


>> No.53850676

Where the fuck are the rest of the astartes leaks? Is there only one brit in this board?

>> No.53850680

>People can't download their books because of 'server issues'
>Free rules they promised are nowhere to be seen

The absolute fucking state of GW

>> No.53850687

Mortarion was banished by Draigo and Magnus was btfo on Fenris.

>> No.53850700

Draigo fought Mortarion in the Warp I thought. You can't banish him if he's already not in realspace.

Magnus has bullshit haxx that he used to bring a whole planet into realspace.

>> No.53850703

>he doesn't know
>every model in the tyranids line for FW was fucking trash
Yeah that guy who's bringing those FW ripper bases he's a p2w cunt he sure is.

>> No.53850712


Hasn't it been more than a century since any Daemon Primarch was banished?

I read they can come back after a century or so.

In fact, they could come back the day after as crazy as time is flowing in the Materium near the warp rift.

>> No.53850715


Absoute fucking state of entitled snowflakes

>> No.53850720

>hurr durr GW did nuffin rong
aaaand the GW apologists show up

>> No.53850724

>Expecting people to do what they smugly hype up for weeks at the time they say they're going to do it is 'entitled'

What is it about GW that inspires such cultish behaviour

>> No.53850726

Forgot its 100 years later.

New Idea: Required for Plot.

>> No.53850727
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>No Chaos (Daemon) Knight in the FW stuff

Am I blind?

>> No.53850734

>What is it about GW that inspires such cultish behaviour
sunk cost

>> No.53850736
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>Followers of Nurgle get their own psychic powers, the contagion discipline
>Followers of Tzeentch, actual god of fucking magic, do not


>> No.53850740
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What if all Primaris Marines were muscle girls ? Would that make them better or worse ?

>> No.53850741


Hey buddy. When they do wrong I call it. When free rules aren't available day one and faggots are crying cos they can't get their epubs at 00:01 on launchday, that's all on you. Cry me a river while you throw out your toys, ya baby.

>> No.53850745

So how are Meltaguns looking? I'm struggling to justify taking them when plasmaguns can do pretty much everything that they can

>> No.53850749

desu I've sunk more money into this hobby than the average pleb.

but I have an IQ above 80 so that may explain it.

>> No.53850750

Nah, I meant the forgeworld one, just didn't see the link because I'm a dumb faggot.

>> No.53850753

I have an old Defiler kit lying around that I never assembled. What size base should I put it on?

No. They were only experimental rules. You'll have to play your Chaos Knight as a regular renegade now.

>> No.53850756

>>People can't download their books because of 'server issues'
Because their servers are overloaded because the 8th release is fuckmassive.

>>Free rules they promised are nowhere to be seen
It's just the 12 core rules, which we've all seen already, and are worthless for matched play without the points, what the fuck are you whining about? Oh no, little timmy will have to wait another day or so for them to put the Open Play rules up, if he didn't just buy the starter set that comes with them?

>> No.53850759

He has a domain. It's called the Dark Hereticus domain. EVERY chaos psyker gets Tzeentch's domain.


>> No.53850760

Age of Sigmar's rules, including the Comlendiums for every faction, were available Day 1 without issue. GW has had weeks to prepare for this, the fact they can't even get an 8 page PDF ready on time is pathetic.

>> No.53850764

No base unless you want one.

>> No.53850765

You are literally just looking for pointless things to bitch about lol

>> No.53850766
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waaaaay worse
please take your fetishes to >>>/d/ thanks

>> No.53850768


If you're putting a defiler on a base, I'd put him on the one that Knights come on. Traditionally they don't have one though.

>> No.53850770

Storm bolters viable now? Basically a twin boltgun for 2 pts.. Like why not?

>> No.53850772

Fuck off

>> No.53850783

seems like a good buy if you don't have anything more specific you want to give your dude

>> No.53850784

Well I would have thought that his loyal followers get something more than just the default shit, but whatever.
Dark Hereticus is pretty good at least

>> No.53850794


get out

>> No.53850795

just as planned, dummy

just as planned

>> No.53850805

He'll get his later, calm down.

>> No.53850811

Just ignore it

>> No.53850816

Blood Angels players are going to need therapeutic counseling after this match jesus christ. Nids aren't fucking around anymore.

>> No.53850819


Printed Battle Primers containing the core rules are available in the store to pick up for free so yeah, they delivered on their promise.

I'm sure the PDFs will be up later today, but if it's not up until Monday I'm ok with that. Life's too short to moan about trivial shit.

I'd have liked the core rules to be free in this month's White Dwarf too, but can't have everything ;)

>> No.53850837

Sunk cost does not mean what you think it means.

>> No.53850838

I know. I want one.
Knights are 170x105mm, right? That might be a bit too narrow for a Defiler, which is pretty round. It looks like it will be a little cramped on 130mm but 160mm seems a tad to big (unless I buy dumpster-anon's monopose spaces marines and fill the base up with corpses)

>> No.53850843

What happened to the brit posting the rest of the badab characters?

>> No.53850847

GW assassinated him

>> No.53850851

>Forces of Chaos
>Alpha Legion
>Units deployed unknown
Oh I do love my legion. Hydra Dominatus!

>> No.53850855

explain what you think I think it means
and also what you think it means

>> No.53850859

Can someone upload new art from 8th edition rulebook?

>> No.53850884
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Give it to me straight. Zhrukal Androcles, does he still let me use Devestators as elites I want to be totally unsuitable for tactical close support of other Imperial units

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yes/no first list for 8th

>> No.53850904

Contagion discipline is Nurgle, Change is Tzeentch. The Chaos Daemon section has their own powers. Dark Hereticus is CSM generic. Each legion capable will have their own, or at least Thousand Sons probably will.

>> No.53850907

Not Conscripts/10

Naah, it looks fast and fun. Do whatever you like the look of.

>> No.53850908

should have said worth a shit really don't have any idea what other armies are looking like

>> No.53850929

It is not used as a way to say "I've sunk this much money into the game I need to splerg it all over /tg/", it is used in a way to identify costs that should not be taken into account when developing your future business decisions.

>> No.53850937

Still can't donwload the damn epub, anybody got a better chance?

>> No.53850942

My group has homebrewed that you can use the respective Daemon psychic powers.

>> No.53850944

Halfway through your first movement phase

>> No.53850959

Why are you buying the cheapo-ugly snapfit models? Grab some of the 10x and the command squads and put some goddamn character in your army!

Also, need more commissars.

>> No.53850971

To make it easier to assemble the conscript spam.

>> No.53850972

Are you looking for the chaos one? I'll upload to gdrive if you want.

>> No.53850982

I don't suppose you have the loyalist one.

>> No.53850988

That would be so kind :), i also have the main rulebook waiting to be dl... damn gw

>> No.53850989

yes please, kind anon

>> No.53850995

Fucking waacfags

>> No.53850997

My store has been handing out free rule booklets, could that be it?

>> No.53851008

right, but this is a functionally similar concept
what term would you have used to describe "I've sunk a lot of money into this game, therefore I need to defend it in order to justify continued spending?"

>> No.53851023

Sunk Cost Fallacy is fine. Time is money. Therefore spending time defending the game is increasing your investment in it.

>> No.53851034

Pestigors, huh?

>> No.53851036

think of it this way
even if the conscript meme turns out to be true, and all the memers are able to bend time/space to their will, which will be necessary to get the effect they think they'll be getting out of their conscripts on paper, then GW will nerf it and we'll all have a bounty of cheap unpainted guardsmen to buy on ebay
when they inevitably realize that it doesn't work they think it will, then we get the same result, cheap guardsmen for all
it's a win/win

>> No.53851070

Anyone can hook me up with the FW astartes leaks from previous thread? A link to the thread is enough

>> No.53851074

I'm not native english speaking so I would prefer being clear and avoiding the use of techical terminology which could cause misunderstanding. See the other anon who replied to you - he thinks you were mentoning sunk costs to argue about the famous sunk costs fallacy etc.

Noone here is talking about the fallacy. We're just arguing about terminology abuse.
Nonetheless, I don't see how defending someone else's business is going to result in an investment.

>> No.53851085

yeah but snapfits model are horrible, that's what I hate about this...

>> No.53851110

New thread when?

>> No.53851116

Yes please, thanks!

>> No.53851141

An investment isn't limited to money. You can invest your time, and energy into a project.

The sunk cost fallacy is about justifying future investments based purely on your current past investment (that you can't get back). Anon stated that people defend GW because they have a lot of money invested in models that they can't recover. Defending GW on forums is a time investment. Therefore, what they are doing is sunk cost thinking.

>> No.53851150
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Thank you very much, anon!

>> No.53851174

Desperately waiting for renegades and heretics rules. I need my renegade ogryns and slave masters!

>> No.53851175

We're only on page 8

>> No.53851176

Thank you a lot

>> No.53851195


>> No.53851199

Fucking hell, no renegades and heretics? Where are my ogryn berserkers, chaos enforcers and all that awesome shit?

>> No.53851205

Some people think they'll be in the IG index next week.

>> No.53851209

So, official download of the core rules on gw when?

>> No.53851211
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It's in the guard codex.

>> No.53851217

You are lost.

>> No.53851231

I wouldn't count on it. Haven't we seen the Contents page of that book already?

>> No.53851240

>just played my first game of 8th against World Eaters
Fuck me Deathwing Knights are strong now. That str x2 d3 wiped Kharn off the map in a single turn.

>> No.53851242

well, glad I've been proven wrong

>> No.53851253

gib details
Was it a fun game?

>> No.53851262

Has anyone actually played against a horde list yet?

>> No.53851269

It was but I got fucked up because of a stupid move involving deep strike. Those 9" rules are nasty.

Also lascannons are perfect for sniping poorly positioned characters apparently. Whoda thunk.

>> No.53851293

Also, by the end of the game all that was left was 2 Rhinos on his side and 1 Deathwing Terminator on mine. Close combat is fucking deadly yo

>> No.53851297

Are Battle For Vedros boxes full kits, but push fit or do you only get set options?

>> No.53851300

Now that 8 has hit

Death guard or 1ksons?

>> No.53851306

Goddamn how did that happen?

>> No.53851314

Got the EPUB rulebook downloaded, anyone want to trade for Imperial Index 1 & 2?

>> No.53851320

Where's that day 1 faq increasing the cost of conscripts that everyone promised me?

>> No.53851326


Push fit, fixed options but there's a bit of choice with the Ork Boyz arms. Not bad quality. I picked up the set for dirt cheap, just for Kill Team & SWA

>> No.53851340

does anyone ahave little bit of fluff for tau ?

>> No.53851342

I'll trade you my seventh son for it

>> No.53851348


Forgot the link

I’ve even “fixed” it to do double page spreads in landscape mode since GW can’t be bothered to change the InDesign export defaults

>> No.53851352

Is that just the starter set or all of them?

Thinking of starting an SM army, and hoping to get some cheap bodies.

>> No.53851353


Sorry, I don't have the loaylist one. Here's chaos: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bzhk3FfQtW5FTjFWa09WS0pHQTg/view?usp=sharing

>> No.53851371

Thank ye kindly uploader bros.

>> No.53851376
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>> No.53851384

Death Guard

>> No.53851385


Why is it asking for a decryption key?

>> No.53851389


>> No.53851397

While we're at it, any good recommendations for an epub reader? Using E-book Viewer atm, feels kinda 2006 or smth

Thank you!

>> No.53851404
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>I’ve even “fixed” it to do double page spreads in landscape mode since GW can’t be bothered to change the InDesign export defaults
Bless you, anon. You are doing the Omnissiah's work.

>> No.53851410

I love it for Infantry squads. HWT, special weapon, power weapon, plasma pistol.

>> No.53851422

Anyone know of a good mobile epub reader for android?

Ive tried 7 so far and they cant read thr FW index.

Is this what i get for actually buying the damn thing?

>> No.53851423

You might not have copied the whole link

>> No.53851437



>> No.53851446

convert/read it with calibre

>> No.53851452

thank you very much! <3

>> No.53851456
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Just the starter set. Here's a pic of the sprues, if that helps. Probably not great for using with existing bits, but a great way to get minis on the table quick

>> No.53851466

forge world imperial book? is it up or do we just have the chaos one?

also do we have the regular gw indexes in good quality yet...not the shitty scans that we already have

>> No.53851469

Not a lot of ebook reader devs bothered to update and support EPUB 3 even though it’s been around about 4-5 years now. I use iBooks or Readium, Cloudshelf by Bluefire is also good and the Edge browser in Windows 10 can handle them as well. If you’re on Android I can’t help, but there might be something Readium based mentioned here http://readium.org/about/readium-projects-information

>> No.53851474

Where did you get the FW index from?

>> No.53851480

The Fusion Collider seems to be pretty nice now for the Ghostkeel due to vehicles being fucking immortal. Anyone else tried it?

>> No.53851486

I'm willing to buy ork halves.
Email's [email protected]

>> No.53851490

There are links to download the epubs in this thread.

>> No.53851498


>> No.53851501

Disregard me, I found it here, I am an idiot

>> No.53851508

Readium works. There really isn't a perfect epub3 reader out there, it's an attrocious format.

>> No.53851535

Is there a reason that people don't just use pdfs? I fucking hate epub.

>> No.53851541

Thank you very much.

>> No.53851543

Anyone else really hate the Eldar? They're pretentious assholes.

>> No.53851546

is the imperial index from forge world link anywhere?

>> No.53851550

Basically 90% of the people here, anon. Elves in space are fucking gay. Dark Eldar are p cool though

>> No.53851551

Incompetence. I think GW has a specific program it uses to put together documents, and it exports as epub3 by default.

>> No.53851556

Dark Eldar are fine. I just wish they had a sniper rifle that wasn't exclusive to units that want to be locked into combat

>> No.53851577

more like locked in the closet

>> No.53851579


Cheers mate.

Hey is anyone else getting "failed to load book because requested resource is missing" on IOS for this? I am and it also infuriating as it's never happened to me before

>> No.53851590


On mobile?

>> No.53851594
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Making some snow-themed Skitarii

What type of footwear is best for the snowy/icey environment for a Dunecrawler? With the feet attachments or without?

Not sure if pointy feet or those makeshift treads would be better.

>> No.53851601

you dont have a laptop or pc?

>> No.53851602


Cheers mate.

Hey is anyone else getting "failed to load book because requested resource is missing" on IOS for this? I am and it it's so infuriating as it's never happened to me before

>> No.53851614

Do you get virtual version of rulebook/index if you bought physical or is this only for people who explicitly bought non-physical?

>> No.53851626

Give it the snowshoe feet, anon. They're designed for the sand dunes of Mars, they'll probably also work for snow.

>> No.53851629
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Guys, can dice get worse with age? I've had one of the GW dice cubes since about mid 5th, so about 7~ years. I haven't played that many games at all (less than 30 for sure) and when I told my friend I get bad rolls he seemed concerned and told me to get new dice as they can get knocked or something.

I do have terrible dice luck. Is there a mathematic way to test if this is true of mine?

>> No.53851633
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Did you guys already discuss this?

>> No.53851635


Reposting this link

>> No.53851638

Check the weight of the dice.

>> No.53851640

what is it, some kinda gay bird?

>> No.53851646

I hate space elves almost as much as I hate space commies. At least the Eldar go back in the lore and don't feel like a tacked on weeb-placation-device.

>> No.53851649

What weight am I looking for then? they're quite light so I might need a jewelers scale for them.

>> No.53851650

start rolling and check if there's an unexpected tendency after some millions of throws

or see if they float always on the same face I guess

>> No.53851671


Yeah. It works fine in CloudShelf, which is free on the iOS store. Won't open in iBooks at all though.

>> No.53851675

Roll em' >100 times and record your results. Expected value of a D6 roll is 3.5

>> No.53851677

supposedly, but they kind that sucks blood instead of other bodily fluids

>> No.53851680

Seems like a shitpost to me, so probably.

>> No.53851681

I will never understand people who seem to think Tau are weeb. They have big suits, that's it really. Eldar are literally androgynous, katana wielding mary-sues. And ALSO have big "suits".

>> No.53851684

Has the FW Guard index been leaked?

>> No.53851688

Anyone got the full indexes with the fluff?

>> No.53851692

looks like a normal gay bird to me

>> No.53851698

OMG ForgeWorld Imperial Index plzzz.....!!!

>> No.53851700

they are literally gundam models implanted into this universe, they don't even fit the aesthetic

>> No.53851707

Don't waste time with any of that superstitious nonsense. Instead, set your dice in an out of the way corner with the 6 up. Light incense and leave them that way for 6-12 months. Do not move or disturb the dice in any way. That'll fix your problems.
Buuuuuut since that does take a while, you might want to pick up some other dice to use in the meantime.

>> No.53851709

give it fluffy winter socks

>> No.53851711

Ok so roll each die like 10 times (I think i got 26 in this thing) and take an average. any dice that doesn't get either a 3 or 4 is unfair?

>> No.53851720

>I don't like them so they don't fit the setting
Where did the riptide wing touch you?

>> No.53851732


Except most things in the Gundam universe would stand taller than a Knight and out weigh one were that really consistent.

>> No.53851734

Did you not see how much firepower those cunts have?

>> No.53851738

Eldar are Mary Sues? Look at the plot events in the Damocles Gulf books and try to tell me the authors don't favor the Tau.

>> No.53851739

Nah, the table of contents are on the FW site.

>> No.53851745

Anybody got the imperium 1 & 2 epub, or teh xonos ones

>> No.53851747

I tried 3 converters all failed. Why does BL suck so much

>> No.53851749

How are the Ebay sales going? ^^

>> No.53851763

Welp, first dice I rolled 10 times, got a perfect 35. Maybe it's in my head, but I'll test the rest.

>> No.53851769

They have a page of fluff, that’s about it

>> No.53851773

Gotta roll each at least 100 times. Take the average of all the rolls and it should be around 3.5. Honestly, you'd want to do more like 1000 rolls, but that would take a minute.

>> No.53851774

>I piece of writing favors the faction it's primarily about
Gee fucking wiz
If I weren't such a poorfag I'd be buying up all these 40$ riptides in a heartbeat

>> No.53851775

Nah, 10 times is meaningless. Far too small sample size.

Frankly dice don't "get old". Either they were weighted correctly to start with, or they weren't. E chances of a significant misweight on a full set of mass produced dice is very slim.

You've probably just had a shitty run, rather than the dice somehow getting worse.

>> No.53851776

>plasma cannon is D3 hits
>average of D3 is 1.5 hits
>need to hit, wound and save against it

So shit

>> No.53851778
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epubs when? (probably a few days?

>> No.53851787

It’s not BL it’s the lazy developers who don’t update their apps to read or convert a 5 year old format

>> No.53851794

Love beating retards like you with variable weapons and listening to you bitch about how "lucky" I am.

>> No.53851799

afaik GW dice are built so that instead of having the usual averages of dice, they get a 1 some 34% of the time

>> No.53851803

Or BL could use a standardized format instead of a meme. PDFS display properly across all devices.

>> No.53851810

Average of D3 is 2, man. Not 1.5.

>> No.53851816

Average of D3 is 2 actually.

>> No.53851830

I was talking about the median result not the mean

>> No.53851832

>mfw I always roll 5 and 6s with my plasma cannons
>still does what it was always meant to do: purge MEQs
Feels good not to be a shit luck nigger.

>> No.53851839

You can't surprise anyone with Sanguinor.

>> No.53851843

So what would you say is best in this edition, high amounts of low strength shots or low amounts of high strength shots with good AP?

>> No.53851849
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>Dreadnought movement value : 6 inch
>Death Company Dreadnought movement value : 8 inch

So it is actually true, being black really does make you run faster

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Dice get chipped, damaged and could be unblanced overtime, and can give you bias roll.

Most dice are unbalanced, usually toward the "6" or the "1". Especially Opaque dice. Why? because unseen bubble and mixed material inside it, you can cut the die open to to see. Translucent dice are preferable more balanced than opaque, because you can check for bubble by looking.

Does all of this matter? No. A perfectly balance dice are usually expensive, need testing and only casino need that shit. Only way to feel "fair" is both you and your friend using the same dice. Also, dice are cheap af, get a few translucent one.

>> No.53851863

Nice try, but the median result has no relevance. Your excuse is just as retarded as your mathematical error.

>> No.53851873

Unless I mislearned maths massively, then 2 is also the median result and that has no relevance anyway since we're looking at the mean.

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>tfw Dark Imperium made you want to play Ultramarines

I'm a filthy heretic CSM player, will the Imperium take me back?

>> No.53851880

They probably should since these books have no enhancements, it’s literally the default export option from InDesign. Unlike the enhanced iBooks versions they take no longer to build and contain nothing over PDF except marketability. Would people pay £30 for a PDF, prob not, but make it some obscure format that only works on modern devices and OSs and you’ve got exclusivity!

>> No.53851887

Hmm who is right?

Me, a maths major or some shitposting anons?

>> No.53851903

Helbrute does too. Meaning that Death Company Dreadnoughts are possessed, feel free to try to prove me wrong (you can't).

>> No.53851904

Always shitposting Anons.

Especially when it's you, Mark.

>> No.53851905

>The median is the value separating the higher half of a data sample, a population, or a probability distribution, from the lower half. In simple terms, it may be thought of as the "middle" value of a data set. For example, in the data set {1, 3, 3, 6, 7, 8, 9}, the median is 6, the fourth number in the sample. The median is a commonly used measure of the properties of a data set in statistics and probability theory.

I know this is b8 at this point, but you're doing a good job pretending to be a retard pretending to be a math major.

>> No.53851907

>lying on the internet
>lying on the internet about being a huge fucking nerd
Holy shit dude

>> No.53851910

mix of both, though you'll want plenty dakka to deal with the ork, nid and conscript spammers

>> No.53851915


>> No.53851925

nope, shit thread

>> No.53851930

If it's Ultramarines you're playing, even the Imperium doesn't want your skubby ass.

>> No.53851933

As opposed to a shitposting anon that claims to be a maths major?

I have a Doctorate in maths btw. And am also an astronaut.

For reals.

>> No.53851935

The most reddt post ever made on this website. Good job.

>> No.53851949

Mean value is 2, median value (LITERALLY THE MIDDLE FUCKING NUMBER) is also 2. Maths major my ass.

>> No.53851951

Fuck, ok. Well I rolled my 25 dice 10 times as a test and I got more 6s than 1s in all but once. But at one point, I got 0 1s but 11 2s. I think Tzeentch might be trolling me hard.
What the fuck, seriously? Whre did you hear this?

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>result table is basically {1, 2, 3} with same probabilities
>median now is 2 by definition

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Does anyone have a sauce on the new painting in the background?

>> No.53851986

I don't have the link but it was some professor's blogpost where he basically tested some 5 or so different dice types that he had rolled some 100k times in a machine
it was a really interesting read but it was a while back

Stop trying to force your shitty fucking meme OP image every day you quadruplenigger

>> No.53851990

Dude ten rolls is nowhere close to being enough to get a proper average.

>> No.53852007

That's (almost) randomness for ya. Honestly, if you're really worried about it, just buy new D6's, they're not expensive. The "GW dice rolls 1's" is trolling.

>> No.53852029

Deploy closer to the back of the board, bring screening units

>> No.53852030

I should add that it's probably intentional on GW's part since their dice do it

The only die that gave a full 1/6th chance for each side were official Casino dice

>> No.53852060

It's not trolling and its not a fucking meme
GW dice roll something like 29% 1s, this has been researched and tested

>> No.53852078

>IoM throws couple squads of guardsmen and tau has to pool in the whole might of the empire against it
>conclusion: single planet did not fell that day
Yeah sure is mary sue.

>> No.53852084

link or it didn't happen nigjew

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>researched and tested

>> No.53852108

tbqh the only dice that give actual 1/6 chance are from die rolling app. Casino dice have sharp edge and they get chipped very easily, especially when thrown around violently by neckbeards. So they'll need to be test every hour and tossed out when become unblanced.

>> No.53852132

You're just in time for the Cawlian heresy and the ensuing civil war from it. Hop in. No one will notice.

>> No.53852135

I meant the new one in the background of that image, the thing that looks like a space eel

>> No.53852138

Genestealers have that rend :^)

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>> No.53852156

it was the back artwork for the behemoth invasion timeline in the 6th ed codex

never seen a clean one though

the crying wounded warrior on the cover will never not make me tear a little about the irony of a second cruddex

>> No.53852163


It'll be this. https://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/That%27s_How_I_Roll_-_A_Scientific_Analysis_of_Dice

It's not 100k rolls, it's 1k.
And it didn't use a machine, it was by hand.
And it has not been independently verified...it's a post on the internet.

Other than that though, 100% proven!

>> No.53852187

When you're one of a few dozen 40k players in a third world country, FW is banned because it's expensive.

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>> No.53852207

I don't think it's the same, this creature wasn't in that one

>> No.53852211

Look Ma, I've got a title.

>> No.53852227

Yes, I know this one but it's not the same, this time it's new

>> No.53852243

>He doesn't buy craps dice
Poorfags, when will they learn?

>> No.53852269

Isn't the one in the background the same one that's used for the hivefleets in the 7e codex? The pictures above their timelines, I think

>> No.53852275

I've got the codex in front of me, it's the same, just covered by the timeline

between page 14 and 15, at the top

>> No.53852296

it's mothman

>> No.53852329

Does anybody have the codex imperium 1 on epub?

>> No.53852331

7e codex?
What chapter exactly?I can't seem to find it (in the 6e epub codex from the mega)

>> No.53852447

Anyone got links to the epub versions of the Imperial Index 1 and 2 that isnt just pictures of the book?

>> No.53852746


Based off my own entirely unscientific trials I've found that ~ 37% of my dice roll more 1's, 2's and 3's more often than anything else, with a preference for 1's on most of the below average dice, while the dice which roll 6's a majority of the time represent ~18% of those trialed.

So, I'd believe that.

>> No.53852791

Can you post Vaylund Cal?

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