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I just listened to Angels of Caliban on tape.

I just have one question:

Is Roboute Guilliman Autistic?

>> No.51312446

All primarchs are

>> No.51312531

>>51312425
>More autistic than the Lion
>More autistic than Curze
>More autistic than Sangunius

Guilliman is pretty normal all things considered.

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>>51312446
Is that one of the things that makes them better?

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Roboute Guilliman is the MOST Autistic of the Primarchs, which is why /tg/ thinks he is the best.

I'm pretty sure whoever first thought of 40k was an Autistic noblemen's child, obsessed with elitism and chivalry.

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>>51312425
Are these things worth reading?

>> No.51312808

>>51312446
How do you rank the Primarchs based on autism?

>> No.51312962

>>51312446
>All GW writers are autistic
FTFY

>> No.51312986

>>51312531
>Sangunius
>Autistic
What has GW done this time?

>> No.51313000

>>51312584
the most autistic is Lion El'Jonson tho

>> No.51313126

>>51313000
What about Rogal Dorn and Perturabo

>> No.51313138

>>51312962
>All GW writers know how to appeal to their autistic fanbase

FTFY

>> No.51313435

>>51312808
Lion El'Jonson - can't project emotional states onto others, autism
Corvus Corax - sometimes cool guy, sometimes an emo, bipolar disorder
Konrad Curze - hears voices, thinks he's batman, multiple dissociative disorder/multiple personality disorder
Angron - well, yea, ADHD
Perturabo - prone to fits of rage, thinks somebody is watching him, ADHD/schizophrenia
Leman Russ - hurr durr I was just pretending to be retarded (no he wasn't), down syndrome
Jaghatai Khan - when asked to sing only gurgles, down syndrome
Alpharius/Omegon - multiple personality disorder, both of them
Horus, Lorgar, Sanguinius, Guilliman - oedipus complex, with various amounts of megalomania and other irregularities
Mortarion - some severe case of PTSD
Vulkan - he's black, while all his brothers are white? nothing against it, just putting it out there
Magnus - believes he's a wizard, schizophrenia
Fulgrim - though somewhat understandable considering how hot he is, narcissistic personality disorder. Also, hears voices, multiple dissociative disorder
Ferrus Manus - his hands are made from metal, something's gotta be wrong there
Rogal Dorn - I think this one is simply plain stupid

Uuuh, not quite what you were asking about, but how's that?

>> No.51313532

>>51313435
I'm afraid you've failed the autism test, my friend.

>> No.51314275

>>51313435
a gang of gargling, drooling super-tards points and bellows "Mertal Hands Mertal Hands"

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>>51313435
>Vulkan - he's black, while all his brothers are white?
Lion, Roboute Guilliman, Alpharius/Omegon, Horus, Angron, and Rogal Dorn are Germanic.
Jaghatai Khan is a Mongol.
Leman Russ is a viking.
Ferrus Manus looks Hispanic.
Lorgar, Sanguinius, and Fulgrim look Anglo-Saxon.
Corvus Corax, Mortarion, and Konrad Curze look mixed white.
Magnus looks native american (not just because he's red).
Emperor is supposed to just be Hittite (middle eastern, born in BC).

I have many questions regarding the races of the primarchs, not just Vulkan's blackness.

Also
>Magnus - believes he's a wizard
Kek, I invisioned him waving a staff around and screaming nonsense while the Thousand Sons stare in horror.

>> No.51314649

>>51313435
You missed a perfect Mongoloid joke for Jaghatai Khan.

>> No.51314930

>>51314561
Alpharius looks more Greek or Mediterranean. He's described as having bronze skin

>> No.51315017

>>51314930
Didn't know he was described like that!

Also, and forgot to add this, the Emperor himself looks whiter than Corvus. I don't know how any of this makes sense genetically speaking.

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>>51313435
Does that mean the Emperor has all those mental problems too?

And is black?

>> No.51315096

>>51312772
Many are. You really have to ask about individual books. But overall yes, it's been an enjoyable series.

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>>51314561
The Emperor was the amalgam of a bunch of shamans of different races.

>The Emperor is the collective reincarnation of all the shamans of Neolithic humanity's various peoples, the first human psykers.

IDK why they just didn't make a new Emperor. Plenty of psykers to use nowadays.

>> No.51315461

>>51315134
Wait, how does reincarnation work in 40k?
I thought it was just his soul, those shamans all died and their SOULS formed together and made the Emperor? And then that mega-soul impregnated his mother or something like that?

If that's not the case, and reincarnation is physical, too... how does that work, just, how? Wouldn't the Emperor be an "it" since the shamans were probably male and female? Wouldn't he be predominantly Chinese (since there were way more of them than the rest of the world, even in ancient times)?

If physical reincarnation was a thing, he'd be an androgynous person with a dark complexion and undefined or slightly Asian facial features, not a white-skinned man with the chin of a god.

>> No.51315514

>>51314275
This made me laugh and i'm not sure why.

>> No.51315594

>>51315134
They fused before the warp became as dangerous at it is.

Nowadays you can't even cough as a psyker without getting eaten by demons

>> No.51315620

>>51314561
>Ferrus looks like Frank Castle
FTFY

>> No.51315632

>>51315134
>The Emperor was the amalgam of a bunch of shamans of different races.

NO, he is the result of the fusion of their souls which then chose to reside inside a baby supposedly from Anatolia and that "awakened" when he became 18.

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>>51315594
There are calm places in the Warp, as well as shielded ones.

You could remake the Emperor.

>> No.51316308

>>51312425

>Primarch is successful and wants everyone to be successful
>HES AUTISTIC LEL

>> No.51319291

>>51313435
>Vulkan - he's black, while all his brothers are white? nothing against it, just putting it out there

>Vulkan, I need to tell you this, you're adopted
>Well of course I am dad, those nice people on Nocturne adopted me, you're my real father.
>No son, I mean, I adopted you. You are not made from my DNA, it's why you're so nice instead of being a flaming asshole.


>Vulkan runs away crying

>> No.51319342

>>51313138
Hey i'm autistic and i happen to not agree with a lot of choices they make,

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>>51315461
>implying he isn't

>>51315792
Tell me about all the people who know about this. Oh wait, I remember one. He currently sits on the Golden Throne and keeps the galaxy from breaking in half.

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>>51319291
>flaming

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>>51319404
Nice try. We know the truth.

>> No.51320883

>>51312772
Yes

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>>51319404
>Tell me about all the people who know about this. Oh wait, I remember one.
If a bunch of Cavemen could figure out how to do it, I can't be that hard.

Maybe make him female this time.

>> No.51320958

>>51320919
The Warp was way more calm back then. These days people can get butt-fucked by daemons just looking at a psyker.

>> No.51320975

>>51320958
See
>>51315792

>> No.51321149

>>51320975
See
>>51319404

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>>51321149
Yeah, but cavemen could figure it out. And, there are places shielded from the Warp. All it would take is people as smart as cavemen and some protective runes.

Heck, the places that the Warp is often the quietest is on backwater forgotten worlds, like Terra once was. It would make sense on some feral world, forgotten by the Imperial and the Empyrean, if the events leading to the birth of the Emperor replayed themselves.

Only being reborn as a girl this time.

>> No.51323949

>>51319522

settle down you watermelon colored marine

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>> No.51330688

>>51313435
Perturabo needs to be way higher on that list.

>> No.51330759

>>51313435
>Perturabo [...] thinks somebody is watching him.
Who you think gave the Eye of Terror its current name?

>> No.51334197

>>51312425
bamp

>> No.51334621

>>51312531
Curze is....um out there.
Sang isn't autistic.
Lion is secretly autistic, shhhh don't tell anyone.

>> No.51334637

>>51313435
>Jaghatai Khan - when asked to sing only gurgles, down syndrome
Mongolian/Talskar throat singing dude. Not downs.

>> No.51334765

>>51312425
GOD FUCKING DAMN IIIIT
EVERYONE AND THEIR DOG ARE AUTISTIC IN 40K
STOP ALREADY

>> No.51334800

>>51315620
>Frank Castle (born Castiglione)
about right

>> No.51334892

>>51327275
Trash

>> No.51334940

>>51315792
>There are calm places in the Warp, as well as shielded ones

No there aren't? This is pretty explicit

>> No.51334972

>>51312425

Only when Gav writes him.

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>>51323949
Anon is not friend.

>> No.51336026

>>51313435
>Vulkan - he's black
Vulkan's not black as in African, he's black as in zero albedo, as in #000000. With flaming red eyes to boot. I don't know wtf Emps was up to in that lab of his....

>> No.51336100

>>51312772
Yes but you gotta know which authors write good shit and which authors need to be replaced by anything, even a /tg/ collab effort or something like that

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>>51321565
>Only being reborn as a girl this time
YOU MEAN LIKE THIS ANON? IS THIS WHAT YOU MEAN?? IS IT??

>> No.51336121

>>51315134
I think that's been soft-retconned. No one has referenced that since like 2nd edition.

>> No.51336708

>>51327275
>Hafthor Sigurdson plays Lemon Russia

Then who the fuck is Liam supposed to be? Horus? Lion?

Also

>Sean Bean plays Ferrero Mango
I'm not sure if you did something that I could see, but I definitely saw something done here.

>> No.51336872

>>51336708
The Lion dumbass.

>> No.51337978

>>51313435
Vulkan's black because of the Nocturne is constantly on fire

>> No.51338007

>>51337978
>of the Nocturne is
I really fucked that one up

>> No.51339697

>>51313000
the lion didnt write the autistic astartes like guilleman though. clearly lion being most autistic is a meme.

>> No.51340587

>>51314930
>>51315017

He and most of the XXth are supposed to look fairly Mediterranean. Anytime they're involved in a story it's like a compulsion with the authors to describe their bronzed skin tone.

>> No.51340604

>>51321565
>All it would take is people as smart as cavemen and some protective runes.
>people as smart as cavemen
>40k
Good luck.

Also
>obsession with femperor
ND pls go

>> No.51343475

Oh, Roboute thread? Well...
Some time ago a possibility of a loyalist primarch going Chaos and a traitor primach going Loyalist was pointed out. (can't word it any other way because reliability)
I believe that Guilliman will go traitor because, well, he has a Slaaneshi poison in his throat. Proving me wrong will be easy enough if you know any Slaanesh-related substance that is not corrupting.
Have your unfun.

>> No.51343637

>>51312446
T. Black Library

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Is there some database of audiobooks? What tg or fantasy/scifi podcasts do you listen to that you would reccomend? Any in spanish?

Links to any of those two VERY much appreciated.

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>>51314561
All of them are white. Vulkan is white, just with black skin and red eyes.

Also, hitites aren't middle eastern, neither is the Emperor.

The Emperor was born in Anatolia, Greece, modern Turkey.

So literally all of them are white.

>> No.51348154

>>51313435
Let me fix some of these for you.

Lemun Russ- Furry, Autism
Jaghatai Khan- Refuses to sit still for more than five seconds, ADHD
Vulkan- Has more empathy for others than common sense, Aspergers
Magnus- becomes overly focused on the wrong things and can't follow directions, ADD
Ferrus Manus- Stubborn beyond logic and focused on one thing way too heavily, Autism/Possibly OCD
Rogal Dorn- Takes everything literally and requires an aid in order to focus on task resolution, Aspergers/Personality Developmental Disorder

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>>51347731
>Greece
>white

>> No.51348249

>>51313126
They are robots

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>>51348154
Friendly reminder Russ followed the orders of the Arch-Heretic and attacked the homeworld of a loyal legion

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>>51348167
>10k BC Greece
>Non-white
Bruh.

>> No.51348313

>>51336101
Enjoy your ban

>> No.51348322

>>51348167
They used to be before they got TURKED

>> No.51348378

>>51348258
Every other primarch would had razed Prospero after discovering the daemons and unstable mutations of the thousand sons

>> No.51348400

>>51348272
>This is what Greeks and Italians actually believe

>> No.51348404

>>51348272
>>51348322
Fuck off /pol/.

>> No.51348421

>>51348378
>Implying anyone would have discovered there pet daemons if they werent fighting for their lives
>Implying everyone didnt already know about the flesh change anyway

>> No.51348431

>>51348404
>the ebin /pol/ boogeyman

>> No.51348456

>>51348378
>and unstable mutations of the thousand sons
LaughingWulfen.jpg

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>>51313435
>Horus, Lorgar, Sanguinius, Guilliman - oedipus complex
Fascinating. How do motherless demigodly 'homunculus' sexually crave their mothers? Honest question, do they even have dicks?

>>51314561
>>51347731
>>51348272
>Emperor is supposed to just be Hittite (middle eastern, born in BC).
Indo-european isn't the same as semitic.

Anyway, the whole thing doesn't make sense, 'europeans' during the Emprah 'birth' were darker than today, the genes conected to white skin came from the Near East later and were culturally prefered.

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2015/04/how-europeans-evolved-white-skin

>>51315461
>If physical reincarnation was a thing, he'd be an androgynous person with a dark complexion and undefined or slightly Asian facial features, not a white-skinned man with the chin of a god.
I guess no one really saw what the Emprah looked like, except perhaps Malcador? The guy is an uranium pile of psychic power, don't trust your sense near him... it.

>>51336026
I bet alchemy. Primarchs are homunculus full of ambrosia, soma, mana, ichor and sperm, the last because ancient mythology is really like that.

>> No.51349211

>>51348258
>literally doomed humanity
>nothing wrong
He did everything wrong.

>> No.51349257

>>51348421
No one outside of Russ knew of the flesh changes and he even warned Magnus of what would happened if he continued down the path of sorcery

>> No.51349277

>>51348456
>wulfen is the same as chaos spawn
Lel

>> No.51349279

>>51349074
The Emperor uses his psychic might to change appearences, to his warriors, he is a mighty warlord while to the Adeptus Mechanicus, a scientist of great skill. In Master of Mankind, the Sisters of Silence see through his psychic spells and see him in his true form. The Emperor is a tired old man suffering immense pain to keep humanity safe.

>> No.51349379

>>51349257
Lol. Learn the fluff dude. Why the fuck would Russ be the only one to know of it? Literally retarded.

The TSons were afflicted by the flesh change way before Magnus was found and they fell to 1000 marines. Do you think that went unnoticed by the other Legions?

>>51349211
>Implying implication
Warning the Emperor of Horus's betrayal was worth the risk. Too bad he didnt use the information he was given.

>> No.51349458

>>51349379
>Warning the Emperor of Horus's betrayal was worth the risk.
>dooming humanity to Chaos was worth it to warn the Emperor that Horus was trying to doom humanity to Chaos
>this is what Magnusfags believe

>> No.51349657

>>51349458
>>dooming humanity to Chaos was worth it to warn the Emperor that Horus was trying to doom humanity to Chaos
Yeah I guess Magnus should have known they'd change the fluff right Anon? ;^)

Besides yeah it was worth the effort. If Emps had actually taken him seriously he'd still be alive. Anything else could have been dealt with over time.

>> No.51349681

>>51313435
Perty is literally supposed to be bipolar disorder. He's described as "mercurial", which is how people used to refer to bipolar or borderline personality disorder before they knew what it was.

>> No.51349716

>>51314649
he was mocking mongolian throat singing

>> No.51350067

>>51349379
>Lol. Learn the fluff dude. Why the fuck would Russ be the only one to know of it? Literally retarded.

The resurgent Thousand Sons brought their fair share of worlds into compliance with the Imperium of Man, and as such their main method of victory (diplomatic guile and trickery) was not questioned by the body Imperial. However, as the Crusade entered wilder regions of space, more and more hostile forces were encountered that deployed powers similar to those that the psychic warriors of the Thousand Sons wielded. This event, alongwith the ever-present rumours of 'withcraft' and 'sorcery' surroundng the legion, resulted in Mortarion once more raising his voice in condemnation of the Thousand Sons.[1a] This time he was joined by Leman Russ, whose long-held distrust of the legion came to a head after he witnessed the return of the flesh-change in the Thousand Sons during a joint action on the world of Shrike.
Source:
A Thousand Sons by Graham McNeill
Chapter Thirteen, pp. 235-7

>> No.51350144

>>51350067
>Fuck he called me out
>I know I'll head to Lexicanum!
Dude what? That even says 'resurgence' of the flesh change proving you wrong? Lorgar was there and stopped Magnus and Russ fighting over Russ killing the effected legionary. But you wouldnt know that as you didnt read the book so get fucked.

>> No.51350156

>>51349657
>blatantly lying
The Emperor went to fix things to the webway and said everything was fucked and Magnus was to blame.

>> No.51350177

>>51350156
>Blatantly ignoring my points
The Emperor didnt use the information Magnus gave him and paid for it.

>> No.51350187

>>51350144
>This time he was joined by Leman Russ, whose long-held distrust of the legion came to a head after he witnessed the return of the flesh-change in the Thousand Sons during a joint action on the world of Shrike.
Leman Russ witnessed the flesh changes first hand anon, I'm not lying

>> No.51350230

>>51350177
>,forcing the Emperor to remain sit and preventing him from actively leading the defense of Terra
Magnus only did things worst

>> No.51350239

>>51350187
> I'm not lying
No youre just retarded apparently because that has nothing to do with the conversation at hand?

>No one outside of Russ knew of the flesh changes
>Why the fuck would Russ be the only one to know of it?
>RUSS KNEW ABOUT THE FLESH CHANGE BTFO
Anon I...

>> No.51350270

>>51350230
>Letting the chaos forces get to Terra after being warned your leading general was a traitor
Hmmm really makes you think.

Must be Magnus's fault tho because he left the back door open ;^)

>> No.51350401

>>51348404
How about you fuck off? I have the right to say whatever the fuck I want on every board I want.

>> No.51350759

>>51348404
Haha what a faggot. I bet you like pathfinder too.

>> No.51350906

>>51312446
>Cool guy Vulkan
>Chad Supreme Leman Russ
>Down-to-Earth Ferrus
>autistic

Nah

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>>51350239
>being proved wrong
>th-that wasn't m-my p-point
Pathetic

>> No.51351171

>>51351090
>Its a Space Wolf fan has no reading comprehension episode
They need to change this show up its getting repetitive tbqh.

Seriously how does Russ knowing about the flesh change (Which I never denied, in fact I said most everyone knew about it) mean he's the only one who knew about the flesh change as stated here >>51349257

>inb4 goalpost.jpg
Not my fault you were kicking the wrong direction because you cant read.

>> No.51351311

>>51351171
Many legions had problems before finding their primarchs, but the thousand sons had more recurring problems even after finding their primarch, everybody thought Magnus had found a way to solved the apparent problem, but little did they knew their problems were because of their psychic potential and Leman Russ watching first hand the problem realised that it wasn't a due a geneseed defect but their sorcery fuelled their uncontrollable and rampant mutation, unlike the wulfen and other legions aspirants that were deformed and mutated due gene implantation.

>> No.51351370

>>51350401
I have the right to say whatever the fuck I want on every board I want.

You actually don't though.
>All images and resulting discussion should pertain to anime or manga.
>All discussion should pertain to business, finance, and economics related topics.
>Images and discussion should relate to food and cooking.

or in the case of /tg/
>Board games, paper games, war games, card games, etc. go here!

>All political discussion belongs in /pol/. Conspiracy theories belong in /x/.
>All politics and current events belong on /pol/.
>Discussions about politics and current events should be posted on /pol/.

Also
>You will not post any of the following outside of /b/: Trolls, flames, racism, off-topic replies, uncalled for catchphrases, macro image replies, indecipherable text (example: "lol u tk him 2da bar|?"), anthropomorphic ("furry") or grotesque ("guro") images, post number GETs ("dubs"), or loli/shota pornography.

>> No.51351403

>>51351311
Nothing that you said is even relevant? Again. Where is your proof that ONLY Russ knew about the flesh change? Or are you going to admit you were wrong so we can move on to something else?

>> No.51351704

>>51314561
>Kek, I invisioned him waving a staff around and screaming nonsense while the Thousand Sons stare in horror.

He does this already

>> No.51351753

>>51351311
I'm bored and it's clear that your "Russ is the only one who knew about the flesh change" point is completely retarded so I'm gonna move on and school you on something else. Specifically your idea that only the '''''great''''' Russ could see the truth about the flesh change.

Here's Malcador talking about it.
>We knew his Legion suffered,’ Malcador said, his breathing still shallow, his face sallow. ‘Even before we discovered Prospero, we knew they were susceptible. We tried to aid them. We thought it was some error in the gene encoding. I myself thought that for many years, and we expended much labour to isolate it.’ He took another draught. ‘It was not the gene encoding. It was something deeper in them, something that went to their core. In the end, only he could do what was necessary. We all believed that Magnus had cured them. His Father believed it. Why should we have doubted it? The Legions always needed their gene-sires – they had been designed to go together, and Magnus was the subtlest of them all.'
>Hassan listened. Insights into the earliest days of the Great Crusade were given out rarely, and there were still secrets now shared only between the Sigillite and the Master of Mankind.
>‘But Magnus fell,’ Hassan said.
>‘He dared too much. He was too proud. But still, even now, he is the only one who ever prevailed over the flesh-change. He cured his sons, once.’
>‘With sorcery.’
>Malcador shot him a withering glance. ‘Of course with sorcery. He was birthed from sorcery. This whole place was built upon sorcery. Give it whatever name you will, but the time is past for pretence.’ He drank again, and the shaking in his hands receded a little.

So your headcanon that only Russ realised it wasnt a geneseed defect that caused it but because of the Sons psychic potential is bunk too.

>> No.51351887

>>51314561
where is lorgar mah nigga

>> No.51356161

>>51312446
All primarchs were designed to be autistic super-specialists with no egos and no personal ambitions.
Most of them though deviated from the original design when Chaps Gods spirited them away.

>> No.51356236

>>51313435
>Rogal Dorn - I think this one is simply plain stupid

I suppose that is probably the best defence against Warp - it can't corrupt what it can't seduce and entrance.

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51356599

>>51336101

>> No.51356937

>>51351887
Oh shit senpai you're right.
Guess Lorgar doesn't matter.

>> No.51356982

>>51312531
No ones more autistic than "fucking normies reeeeee!!" Conrad Curze

>> No.51357317

>>51351370
Ok, now expalin to me how talking about the race of fictional characters is racism or doesn't belong here.

>> No.51358048

>>51351753

Source?

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