/tg/ - Traditional Games

>>46309262
I'm excited for SoI, should I go to the prerelease or save my cash for a fat pack or box? I'm relatively new and not looking to compete heavily but I love deck building and would like the option to. I've completely skipped kahns, origins and BFZ/OGW so I'm willing to make the investment on sealed.

>>46309262
Jace might not even be that good desu

Do we know what the deal with Nahiri is? Surely, she can't just have woken up, seen Zendikar in flames and think "Fuck you Sorin, that wasn't even your idea but I'm still gonna blow up your plane and not even try to defend mine".

Is this worth speculating on, or should I get rid of my playset now?

>>46309498
She missed her period.

>>46309419
I'm kind of in the same boat. Completely out of the loop player seeking to get back into MTG. Figure I should try a sealed prerelease and see what I get from it. Is that a wise idea?

>>46309419
prerelease. Fatpack can sometimes be seen as a small ripoff

prerelease is pretty much paying for 6 packs plus 1 dollar for whatever your promo is, and you get a neat little box and die with it.

You can also play around with your prerelease stuff and possibly win more packs.

>>46309498
A big part of the mystery is that we don't know and Sorin probably won't reveal the truth until EMN.

>>46309419
Prereleases are always great to go to, especially if you go with friends.

Fatpacks can be a ripoff if you pay full price or more ($40). The only reason why they were so great in BFZ block was due tot he pack of 80 full-art lands.

Boxes are not designed for value, so you will likely end up getting your money's worth, or less. If you want certain cards from this set then you are better off buying them separately.

>>46309262
>what you brewing
Jund Landfall. Dunno if I want a ton of Landfall dudes or just a couple good landfall dudes with some ways to access land animation like the embodiment elementals and that green instant that turns your land into a must be blocked dude.
>what will be tier 1?
No idea
>why don't u have a play set of Jace yet?
I have bills to pay and Jace seems pretty weak overall.

>>46309262

>what you brewing

3x Nahiri, the Harbinger

1x Archangel Avacyn
3x Dauntless Cathar
1x Flameblade Angel
3x Odric, Lunarch Marshal
3x Scourge Wolf
4x Topplegeist

2x Angelic Purge
2x Avacyn's Judgment
2x Descend upon the Sinful
3x Eerie Interlude
3x Fiery Temper
2x Nahiri's Machinations
2x Tormenting Voice

4x Battlefield Forge
4x Needle Spires
9x Mountain
9x Plains

Is this working at all? If not, how could i make it work?

>>46309262
I'm just keeping Rakdos Eldrazi. That fucking deck can beat modern decks fairly reliably.

>>46309262
>>what you brewing
landfall and gr/w midrange. something that runs deathmist/den protector, dromoka's command and arlinn kord at any rate.

>>what will be tier 1?
4jace.dec

>>why don't u have a play set of Jace yet?
didn't want to play it when it came out, still not really interested in it. gonna play the shit out of smug wolfu though.

>brewing
Just adding some cards to my RW Allies Equipment.

>Tier 1
Izzet Horror

>Y No Jaces
Because they don't fit my wallet and deck. It will rum very smooth on Izzet Horror but it will suck on Vampires.

So guys what's your take on sealed meta right now? Watched LRR's "Pre-pre-release" event and Red seems VERY strong, with green and black being great too.

Is it worth trying to force Rx?

For the anon that asked for my landfall list yesterday:

3x Sylvan Scrying
4x Ruin in their Wake
2x Undergrowth Champion
2x Devour in Flames
4x Natural Connection
2x Grove Rumble
2x Embodiment of Fury
2x Mina & Denn
3x Embodiment of Insight
1x Goblin Dark-Dwellers
1x Nissa's Renewal
2x Oblivion Sower
1x Greenwarden of Murasa
1x Birthing Hulk
1x Deceiver of Form
1x Desolation Twin

4x Wastes
3x Timber Gorge
2x Sea Gate Wreckage
2x Blighted woodland
4x Evolving Wilds
2x Looming Spires
3x Mountain
8x Forest

It's somewhat midrange-focused and far from perfect, but it works with surprising efficiency.

>>46310728
Honestly, I think White is overall the safest color to go into, apart from red. You have a ton of fliers, decent control options and can reliably combine it with every other color, sharing aspects with each one.

>>46310803
>White

No, mate. Red is where its at.

Big hasty creatures that disrupt your opponent. Huge commons that transform and become even huger and get menace. Lots of removal, lots of damage, madness out of the ass.

Every time i get a good red pool on a sealed i manage to trash through everything that isnt running red. It's unreal how good the red commons are in this set.

White is sometimes too passive and your opponent might horde up a bigger army by the time you are reaching lethal point on white.

>>46311014
Anon, practice your reading comprehension.
>apart from red

I agreed with red being THE powerhouse, though you cannot always go into it properly, at which point white is most likely the safest option to first-pick into for a draft, since they have a handful of decent cards in all rarities.

>>46310767
Oh man, thanks dude. Gonna test a bit of it out to get a feel for what I want from the deck.

You da best.

>>46311125
You're welcome.

If you want a secret tech pick for a bit of a more Eldrazi-focused build, with the titans, more Deceivers or more Birthing Hulks: Loam Larva was incredibly good for me in earlier builds. Dropping a larva, searching for a Wastes and then going into a Ruin in the Wake is the greatest of feelings. Not to mention that it gives you a chump blocker before you drop your big dudes.

My store's powerlevel overall is relatively low, though, so it's a bit of a gamble.

>>46309422
>loot engine with Madness in Standard
>somehow not good

>>46309422
He won't be as good as everyone believes but he'll still likely be the most played card in Standard until Origins rotates out.

Anyone else playing with the thought of putting together BW Skulkers?

Came up with this:

2x Anguished Unmaking
4x Topplegeist
3x Secure the Wastes
4x Vessel of Ephemera
4x Open the Armory
2x Odric, Lunarch Marshal
2x Behind the Scenes
4x Farborg Revenant
2x Graveblade Marauder (thinking of putting more of them in)
4x Rancid Rats
2x Spidersilk Net
4x Haunted Cloak

2x Westvale Abbey
2x Warped Landscape
4x Caves of Koilos
2x Shambling Vent
4x Evolving Wilds
5x Plains
4x Swamp

Can be pretty hilarious to swing with 5+ 1/X creatures with Skulk, Flying, Vigilance and Lifelink.

>>46311206
It's cool man. Yeah Loam Larva did a lot of Waste work for me in drafts and prerelease.

I really don't know what my standard scene power level is like, I just want to play at FNMs. EDH is fun but sometimes I wanna play with other dudes who ain't about that. I've picked up a bunch of landmatters stuff from drafts and prerelease so I just wanna build something with them

Hoping Gitrog toad and some of the Innistrad land matters dude drop after the first few weeks because I wanna play with them too.

>>46309556
Maybe in BR midrange with goldnight castigator, incorrigible youth, mindwrack demon, asylum visitor, breakneck rider, heir of falkenkrath.
Add some removals and discards and I think this could be a good deck.

>>46311426
You should probably check in on a FMN and just spectate a bit to see what everyone is running. Putting a deck together just to get your ass handed to you all the time would suck.

>>46309419
The only good way to spend money on packs in my opinion is drafting. Pre releases are fine too for the experience of starting a new set and the fun of trying new cards. I have friends that sometimes buy displays or fat packs and invite a few people for a private sealed event with their pool, having beers and pizza; for value.

>>46311426
>2 green sleeves
>all the rest pink
>2 embodiment of fury both in different colored sleeves
anon you are triggering my autism

>>46311901
This, really. Draft usually gives you experience in determining card values and deckbuilding. It's also pretty much always fun, even in sub-par sets.

Apart from that, buying a giftbox or fat pack for storage is usually what I buy in terms of sealed product.

what do y'all niggas think about this drag, sleeper or bust ?

>>46309262
>>46311207
>>46311291
>only reason why he saw so much play is because he was so easy to splash
>blue on its own is shit
>blue gets shit cards with SOI and manabases get much worse so you can't really splash

it doesn't take a genius to see that he is gonna get much worse

>>46312163
Eh, don't think it'll see a lot of play, if any. Feels too slow for the madness builds, as you need at least 5 mana when you cast it to not just discard your hand on the first turn after playing.

>>46312374
Okay but consider it with Asylum Visitor and Sin Prodder. Macabre Waltz, Temper, maybe even that one zombie spam card?

I haven't played MtG in a while, and me and my friends were planning on getting a box and doing a draft. Is SoI looking to be good, or should I pick up a previous set, like Gatewatch?

>>46312694
bfz and gatewatch had ass limited. I'm terrible at judging this by site but I'd be shocked if SOI could be worse than that dreck.

>>46312502
Yeah, I'm not saying it's bad or will see no play, since it has its uses and will definitely end up in some builds, but I don't think that it will be part of any meta defining builds, nor that the price will spike by a lot.

>>46312848
I think I'm gonna try some brewing with it. Not that I know the meta, or even play standard, but I think it could be viable.

4 Thunderbreaks
4 Avaricious
4 Sin prodder
4 Asylum Visitor
4 Fiery Temper
4 Lightning Axe
2 Kolaghan
1-2 Ever After
X support cards?

>what you brewing

Bant CoCo Humans

28 Creatures
2 Kytheon (w)
4 Thalia's Lieutenant (1W)
4 Hanweir Militia Capitan // Westvale Cult Leader (1W)
4 Den Protector (1G)
4 Knight of the White Orchid (Ww)
3 Hidden Dragonslayer (1w)
4 Reflector Mage (1WU)
2 Sigarda (4WG)
1 Ojutai ( 3WU)

10 Spells
4 Collected Company (3G)
2 Ojutai's Command (2WU)
4 Dromoka's Command (WG)

22 Lands
3 Prarie Stream
3 Canopy Vista
3 Port Town
3 Fortified Village
2 Lumbering Falls
4 Plains
2 Island
2 Forest

guys

guys hear me out

ok guys

i have a great idea just hear me out ok

you take green

you take black

four hangarbacks

some other token producers maybe

have some bolster on hand to beef up those hangarback walkers

natural state to pop your own hangarback

then sac five to flip westvale abbey

>>46313503
Throw in some Eldrazi Scion bullshit as well, while you're at it.

>>46313503
No, Rally to sac them to westvale

What deck would benefit the most from Chandra, Flamecaller?
A Gruul Landfall deck, a Boros equipment/allies or Izzet eldrazi midrange?

Cant choose between RG Creature Aggro, RB Madness Aggro, and UR Prowess.

Thoughts?

>>46314012
I'd say either landfall or RB Midrange/Madness

>>46309262
I'm not playing standard until this card rotates out. I'm appalled it hasn't been banned.

>>46312342
This card is going to have a massive impact on standard.

>what you brewing

4 exquisite firecraft
4 pyromancer's goggles
4 burn from within
4 firey temper
4 tormenting voice
4 vessel of volatility
4 dance with devils
4 sarkhan's rage
4 twin bolt

24 mountains

RDW.

>>46309262
No clue what will be tier 1, but I really hope Jeskia or Grixis will be good.
I have my Jaces, so I'll be able to build whatever's good.

>>46314527
Brewing around with a few things right now, though my first, guaranteed deck will be WG Humans with some Angel support.

4x Stoneforge Masterwork
4x Thraben Inspector
2x Knight of the White Orchid
4x Lambholdt Pacifist
4x Thalia's Lieutenant
4x Citadel Castellan
2x Bygone Bishop
2x Eerie Interlude
4x Angelic Purge
2x Archangel of Tithes
1x Odric, Lunarch Marshal
2x Sigarda, Heron's Grace
1x Archangel Avacyn

4x Canopy Vista
4x Fortified Village
11x Plains
5x Forest

Trying to find a way to add another Odric or some more +1/+1 distribution, in order to better protect from Avacyn's inevitable transformation, but my go-to idea for that would be Obsessive Skinner, who I do not not what to possibly drop for in my 2-slot, or Nissa, who I also don't really know what to drop for, nor really want to spend the money on, as the Angels will already be quite costly.

>>46313569
>No, Rally to sac them to westvale
Rally like in Rallly the Ancestors ? You know there is rotation in standard ?

>>46309262
>what you brewing
Jund Midrange
It's pretty alright but I need to get the manabase down and figure out how to profit off Delirium with it
>what will be tier 1?
WUx Control, thanks to this faggot and some of the other flickering options available to keep his effects going. Counterspells and Ojutai too.
>why don't u have a play set of Jace yet?
I drop plenty of cash on this game as it is but I don't want to blast out that much money when I don't even play other formats other than EDH.

>>46314254
It's a removal magnet.

>>46316376
This to be quite honest with you my family man

Nobody is going to let something like that live. If the person has Ruinous Path that early in the game they're most certainly going to get rid of it.

Casting four cheap spells is in no way difficult and it will most certainly happen if their goal is to flip the card.

W/G (human) aggro: Good or bad decision? Cheap or expensive?

>>46316553
Good decision; ace deck; not very expensive.

>>46316576
Okay. I've been out of the game for a fucklong time, so i'm hoping to make said deck come SoI, I'm wanting to pour like $100-150 into the deck with time, not all at once. So it'll start out semi-budget and get a bit bigger as I can invest more into it. I just wanted something aggressive but not expensive. Not quite sure where to start.

>>46316553
My brother of african decent.

Looks real fun so far. Only expensive cards could be Avacyn, Kytheon, Tithes, Sigarda and maybe Nissa, though I suppose all of those can also be left out.

>>46316629
Avacyn is w/r right?

Though I was looking at Sigarda, good choice for a power drop. I also just like the thematics of w/g humans, banding together in a scary hostile world.

>what you brewing
Red aggro, as usual
>what will be tier 1?
UWx midrange
>why don't u have a play set of Jace yet?
Because I was a fool and used my money to buy food and pay bills

>>46316697
Avacyn's casting color is mono-white, playing her should be no problem at all.

Though she would go a bit against the whole "humans uniting under WG mama angel to survive" theme, considering she's purging and all that.

>>46316739
I don't think she's a good fit for the deck in general, since once any of your weenies dies she'll blow up the rest.

>>46316697
I like that theme as well. I remember running WR humans as the angry villager resistance in the original Innistrad. I like the looks of W/G to do something similar.

>>46316739
>>46316810
Yeah, I think i'd prefer sigarda over her for that.

Are there any good recommended buys as far as getting back into magic goes then? I last heavily played in the original mirrodin block, so most of my stuff is well and gone or no longer of use. Or any good sites to get reacquainted with the game?

>>46316739
I really wish there were more angels this set. There aren't that many considering they're supposed to be everywhere purging or protecting people.

>>46316891
Eldritch moon might have some more.

I'm kinda surprised there are no Wolfir. Aren't there a few of them left at least?

>>46316810
I like using her. The indestructibility+vigilance from her is pretty awesome to get, especially since Odric makes her share both Flying and Vigilance with everyone else. And yes, while the mass-destruction can be a bummer, it can also help to push the extra 3 damage through to kill something big that you throw your weenies at.

There's also Eerie Interlude, of course. Just let one of your guys die, make her flip, cause a wipe and at the end of the turn get everyone back and have her reset for a huge Flying Vigilance swipe the turn after.

>>46316627
Well the Green/White humans Standard environment has a lot of useful mechanics in it; I would start out in Innistrad for material; and think about deviating a little with things like Sigarda, Heron's Grace for win conditions.

>>46316913
Well, the Silverfur guy is a Wolfir. Might get more next set, given that we might get Ulrich as their legendary.

>>46316913
There is literally a Wolfir card that says Wolfir are very rare.

>>46316913
There's one Wolfir card I definitely remember, though they were already a minority of those Avacyn cured.

>>46316969
>>46316961
>>46316951
Shit, okay. You can stop dogpiling me

>>46315064
>Play against bant
>Reflector Fag
>Bounding Fag
>Flashfags everywhere
>CoCo

Gayest deck in the meta?

>>46312163
Would you even have mana to use any madness cards once you pay 4 for this guy?

Im brewing BR eldrazi centered around flayer drone. I guess it's called midrange. I'll post deck list later.

>>46310609
I'm really not sold on izzet horrors, flicker and boomerangs shut down its creatures so hard, and without its creatures i don't see it as being anything more than a slow, bad burn deck.

>>46314254
its getting banned soooo quickly

>>46314527
You. I like you. You're mostly not a faggot. No dark-dwellers or thunderbreak regents though?

>>46316998
Probably

I can't wait for PTSoI where the best deck in the meta is literally the deck that stops people from playing the game

>>46309262
4 Falkenrath Gorger
4 Heir of Falkenrath
3 Olivia
3 Drana
4 Bloodseeker
3 Incorrigible Youths
4 Indulgent Aristocrat

4 lightning axe
4 fiery temper
4 sinister concoction

4 foreboding ruins
4 smoldering marsh
2 cinder barrens
7 swamp
6 mountain

Trying to fit in Stensia Masquerade for dat first strike action, as well as Insolent Neonate for a one drop, and lastly Bloodmad Vampire coz 4 damage is hot. Just don't know what to take out.

>>46309262
>brewing
Zombie Control
>tier 1
Probably Madness with vampires, or also Izzet Madness.
>playset of Jace
No fags allowed in my binder.

>>46317461
We /ygo/ now?

They have that kind of scenario on a regular basis, after all.

>>46309262
>brewing
Currently brewing Grixis Eldrazi Midrange, based mainly around early game hand attack, then Herald of Kozilek and Hedron Archive into Grip of Desolation to set my opponent on back foot. I'm running sire of stagnation and Ulamog as finishers. I'm planning on going to GP Minneapolis, first GP ever. Any suggestions? Already planning on running Though-Knot seers and the Processor that gives -3/-3.

>>46317790
It is actually pretty hard for a lockdown deck to dominate in ygo, since there are multiple ways to get through almost any lockdown.

>>46317790
Only in YGO the mere semblance of a pure control deck causes Konami to collectively shit itself and cause a more immediate ban compared to the usual tutor-mad combo nonsense they shit out every so often.

The only thing close to a control deck involves pic related but it's never seen a ban because barely anyone has it and I'm quite sure it hasn't had a European printing, thus making it illegal in sanctioned play.

>>46317839
Things like Apoqliphort Towers and the new mega-Raid Raptor get printed on a regular basis these days. While towers might already be powercreeped out, it used to be extremely prominent and RRs might follow that same route once it's properly released.

>>46317405
It's garbage. Standard has no worthwhile cantrips right now and the spells you do want to cast are largely sorcery speed. It's a shitty limitation. also a 7/8 land beater isn't the inevitability control usually wants it's no Morphling or Aetherling. If we get more horrors in EMN I reckon it will go somewherein standard but with current spread? Nah.

So are two-allied one-enemy three color decks like Bant and Jund gonna be top tier post rotation?

Pulled a Jace and a foil Liliana from an Origins pack today. Should I sell Jace before Origins rotates out or hold onto him?

I'll probably hold onto Liliana regardless because A) it's foil and B) Black's one of my more played colors.

>>46317895
>inflict 300 damage
That's fucking weaksauce. That's like inflicting 3/4ths of a point of damage in MtG.

>>46317460
I mostly plan on enemy being dead or about to die at that point, copying sarkhan's rage for 10 damage to the opponent

>>46318636
The point is there's a combo you can perform that involves flooding the opponent's board with tokens that they essentially cannot destroy, and as a result they become locked out of doing anything. Plus, with 5 indestructible tokens you're taking 1500 LP a turn.

>>46318922
If you wanna lockdown, Ojama Collapse is more reliable, or even Melodious if you want a more recent deck. That shit looks like 10yo me trying to win with Solar Flare dragon.

>>46316697
hey
pssst...
veteran warleader

pass it on

>>46319411
Too bad the secondary effect only works with Allies. I prefer to run Stoneforge Masterwork as a Warleader on-a-stick,

>>46317839
Used to exist way back in the day. First Yata hand control and then Chaos control, which was really just Yata hand control on steroids.

I'm kinda confused that the new lands that make you reveal a land card to not come in tapped are also allied colors like the dual lands from Battle for Zendikar are. Those color combinations could be at a distinct speed/mana fixing advantage with two sets of dual lands that have the ability to not come in tapped.

>>46319692
>Yata
I know you like lockdowns, but even then it is too low.

Want to brew U/W spell fasties, but it's still not as good as Kiln Fiend used to be ;o;

Lightning Berserker
Monastery Swiftspear
Elusive Spellfist
Stormchaser Mage

Titan's Strength
Wild Slash
Disperse
Mindswipe
Kindled Fury

>>46320084
>u/w
>ktk cards
>playing mindswipe ever

>>46309419
>Should I go to the pre-release, get some possibly collectible promotional item, and actually be able to play with half the cards for a day or buy a box of mostly useless shit and hope more than 4 cards are anything I'll want to use?

>>46320182
Mindswipe is actually nice because the damage happens even if they pay.

>>46309262
>what you brewing
Displacer + Brood Monitor + Zulaport Cutthtroat/Flayer Drone/Impact Tremors infinite combo

RW Human Equips (EIGHT SERRA LIONS)

Janky Dega Vamps

>>46317405
If blue is good, then reflector mage decks will be a thing, and that just makes me think this card is going to suck.

So is Reflector Mage the new Siege Rhino?

Black
Hand of suligmar
Kalitas, traitor of ghet x3
Kindly stranger
Malakir familiar x2
Sifter of Skulls x2
Retreat to hagara
Pick the brain
Shamble back
Ruinous path
Ultimate price x2

Green
Caustic catapillar
Aniok survivalist
Deathmist raptor x4
Den protector x2
Embodiment of insight
Skysnare spider
Woodland bellower
Evolutionary leap
Nissa's pilgrimage
Return to the earth
Naturalize

Colorless
Thoughtknot seer
Hangarback walker x2
Seer's lantern

Hissing quagmire x2
Other assorted lands

Is it possible to brew a monogreen wwerewolf deck? Or should I splash it with red?

>>46321266
Possibly, it got a big boost with eerie interlude and the 1 mana blue blink.

Brewing a uw tempo deck with reflector mage and hexproof sphinx aas a finisher.

Its giving some cool results after testing with some friends, but vampire BR is pretty annoying. Olivia can finish gaames pretty fast.

>>46319411
For a three drop that doesn't seem bad, but the ally effect is gonna be useless if I go w/g.

But it's fun, cheap filler. I just need to work out the basic cards I want to use.

>>46322080

No anon, the only cool thing green got is lesser ponder effects. Its not that good working with green alone when red, black and white have too much removal. Even green mythics are lacklusting.

>>46322264
List? Sounds cool, I'm interested in anything using reflector mage

>>46311901
Guy said he was new, though. Fighting over cards in Draft is too much for a beginner. If you're not especially good, it becomes a choice of snatch the cards you want or win the game later on. I go for Sealed when it's played. 2-headed giant is good too, especially if your partner is less new.

>>46317492
Where mah vampire bros at?

>>46309262
bump

2x Angelic Purge
1x Archangel Avacyn
2x Avacyn's Judgment
4x Battlefield Forge
2x Descend upon the Sinful
3x Eerie Interlude
3x Fiery Temper
1x Flameblade Angel
3x Gibbering Fiend
3x Moorland Drifter
8x Mountain
2x Nahiri's Machinations
3x Nahiri, the Harbinger
4x Needle Spires
3x Odric, Lunarch Marshal
10x Plains
4x Topplegeist
2x Tormenting Voice

im trying to make some kind of angelic purge deck featuring nahiri, any ideas on how to improve this?

>swing reality smasher off top deck
>declare blockers
>displace blocker with Eldrazi Displacer
>nothing is blocking
>trample see's 0 toughness

Do they get a chance to declare blockers again or is it fucked?

>>46314870
consider Eerie Interlude, cast it when you transform avacyn to remove your cards from the field temporarily - relatively cheap/easy solution to stop your creatures from dying if necessary.

>>46317492
>>46324335
Vampire aggro is a meme deck.

>>46326244
W-What? Declare blockers again? Why would they get to declare blockers again? Do you get to declare attackers two times?

>>46326294
Since the game would check the current phases I guess.

>>46326244
No, once you've declared blockers, there's one more round of priority(flicker the blocker) then it's the damage step.

I've been trying to think on how to retune my RU Prowess to something more suitable with SOI.

>>46309848
List please? I'm a huge Eldrazi and rakdos fan, but I could never get the deck to work. Guess I probably just built it wrong, I'm not much of a deckbuilder.

>>46315064
Do you have a deck list? I'm interested in running Jund and jamming my playset if den protector and deathmist raptor and I think the synergies with sin prodder are really good

>>46326284
So BW warriors all over again?

>>46318724
I went to a tourney when I was 10 with a jank pyro deck and tried to win with solar flare dragon, no fucking joke.

I lost every single game but I met some cool people and traded for some stuff

>>46330242
meant for
>>46319146

>tfw I want to get into the MtG tourney scene to meet some people to play with but I'm too embarrassed because I have awful poorfag decks

Tell me about your experiences as newbies in MtG events or how do you view us now as a veteran.

>>46330242
Haha, btw, was Ryu-ran your strongest monster? Because it was mine, together with Mr.Volcano.

>>46330554
If someone shows up at a gp or a similar big tournament with some pile of jank. I'll offer them some suggestions after the match, but at a tournament like that you should be prepared to win. Not test your newest 6 card 5 color combo tribal shit. At Fnm or small tournaments I'll try to coach new players on proper play lines if they allow me.

>>46330862
I'm not looking for someone to go easy on me just because I'm now or have crap cards, I just don't want some guy to bully me for being new.

>>46331168
MOST players will be willing to help. If not, move on and find someone who will. Just pay attention and don't be annoying.

>>46316376
"IT DIES TO REMOVAL"

So does almost every other creature and enchantment, YOU KNOW WHAT FUCK IT: ALMOST EVERY PERMANENT

Not sure if trolling or stupid

>>46331301
Considering ultimate price is probably going to be some premium removal in this format it's a valid point.

I didn't play KTK-OGW Standard very much, but man 5-Color Bring to Light was such a fun deck. I'm gonna miss it.

>>46331301
It's not that it dies to removal; it's that it's a flip card that does nothing but block when it comes up; and if your opponent allows it to flip it's probably game over. That's something which is going to be a significant difficulty to play and may never be flipped at all if ones' opponent is intelligent.

I can't decide if Daring Sleuth is a good card or not. Maybe in an Izzet deck that utilizes clues enough?

>>46331409
Just think about it: you need a minimum of six mana to flip it; any earlier and it's just going to get targeted and killed. By turn six you'd need to have four one mana instants or sorceries ready to play alongside this; if you don't it's not going to make it to the next turn.

Ok guys. I'm going to my first Prerelease this weekend.

How do i not come of as an total ass/idiot when playing?

alright losers, feast your eyes on the new DECK TO BEAT post rotation
you guys aren't even fuckiNG READY FOR THIS SHIT

4 Demonic Pact
4 Starfield of Nyx
4 Oath of Gideon
4 Oath of Jace
4 Silkwrap
3 Dead Weight
2 Vampiric Rites

2 Disperse
4 Angelic Purge
2 Planar Outburst

1 Narset Transcendent
1 Jace, Unraveler of Secrets
1 Ob Nixilis Reignited

4 Evolving Wilds
3 Prairie Stream
3 Sunken Hollow
2 Port Town
2 Choked Estuary
2 Plains
2 Swamp
1 Island
4 Shambling Vent
1 Caves of Koilos

SB: 3 Dispel
SB: 2 Silumgar's Command
SB: 1 Painful Truths
SB: 1 Narset Transcendent
SB: 3 Transgress the Mind
SB: 2 Languish
SB: 1 Dead Weight
SB: 2 Ultimate Price

HNNGNGG I AM SO FUCKING READY

>>46332239
Read the fucking cards.

>>46332239
well that depends
how much of an idiot are you? like, have you played this game before ever?
as for not being an ass, just be nice. everyone on prerelease is always super nice, especially when compared to the fnm that i go to. it's really heart warming :3

>>46332239
Just remember what your own cards do and don't be afraid to read other peoples cards and ask questions if you cant figure something out. And dress and clean yourself so that people aren't made uncomfortable buy the simple action of sitting across a table from you.

>>46332496
>cleaning yourself up and wearing nice clothes just to play children's card games
lol

>>46332239
Read what all the cards in Shadows Over Innistrad does. They are the only cards anyone will play.

If you don't even know how to play the game, I recommend you to play some matches first.

Pre-release is usually a very friendly place, because most people just want to see new cards and play some casual games. It is also an even where a lot of new players play, the only place with more newbies and more friendly would be a newbie event, where they will literally hold your hand through an entire match with some shitty cards and willing to answer questions like "What is a library?"

>>46332542
He didn't say "wear nice clothes". He said dress so that people sitting across the table don't feel the urge to take a shower just because they looked at you.

>cleaning yourself up
You should always clean yourself up, you filthy man child. Take a fucking shower.

>>46332542
So, you are that guy who no one wants to play with and no one ever wants to use the bathroom after you.

>>46332542
Nice clothes means don't wear your sweat stained Rainbow Dash shirt that has a furry patch sewed on.

>>46332934
>he takes children's games way too seriously
>im the man child
lol ok

>>46333045
>taking a shower is serious business
yes, you are the manchild.

>>46332239

Eat a LOT of onions beforehand.
Have MLP sleeves and playmat.
Joke about Storm Crow.
Don't shower.
Laugh at everything you say.
Roll your eyes at everything everyone else says.
Be insulting and condescending towards other opinions.
If you pull a Mythic be sure to either run around the store and shove it in random faces OR strike up conversations where you ask what people thought the best card they pulled was and then shove it in their face. If they have better mumble and walk away.
Blame your color(s) being weak when you lose.
Wear meme referencing clothes.

>>46333195
I like how the last is the worst of them all, since it basically says that you will do all the above combined.

So what are everybody's plans for the prerelease?

Going to the midnight release+buffet followed by the regular release myself.

>>46333299

My scene is doing an event at midnight and early Saturday afternoon. Since the store is about 20 minutes away one way I'm trying to decide on which one or both.

I am working Friday as well.

>>46333299
free until monday so im just going to go to the pre-release on saturday.

My local store is having 2 events on saturday. on around 10 am and one around 5pm.

Then they are having a 2 headed giant on sunday which im just gonna watch. i don't have anyone to form a team with.

>>46332542
>cleaning yourself up and wearing nice clothes just to go out in public

>>46318312
i dont believe you, that pack sounds insane

does anyone have an actual list for that izzet horrors memedeck? it sounds intriguing.

Here's the UW control deck i'll probably play early on in the rotation

4 Jace, Vryn's Prodigy
4 Dragonlord Ojutai
2 Jace, Unraveler of Secrets
3 Silkwrap
3 Void Shatter
3 Planar Outburst
4 Epiphany at the Drownyard
3 Pieces of the Puzzle
2 Negate
4 Immolating Glare
1 Westvale Abbey
4 Prairie Stream
4 Meandering River
4 Port Town
3 Plains
8 Island
2 Secure the Wastes
2 Horribly Awry

>>46334719
Lily and Jace have a thing for each other, right?

>>46334844
she like seduced him or some shit and now hes angsty and pissed at her


idk

>>46334719
Crazy bullshit like that happens all the time. I managed to draw an Expedition Eye of Ugin in the same pack as a Return of Kozilek, too.

>>46334844
>>46334935
He helped her out once, they got a bit too friendly, ended up in bed and a pseudo relationship, then she betrayed him, he got pissed and left her but she came back to him just before the events of BFZ to clear out any misunderstandings and start over, only for Gideon McMonkeyman to burst into the fancy restaurant they were in to steal Jace away, resulting in her getting the fuck out of there and basically telling Jace to have fun playing with his meat mountain friendo.

Now Jace came running to her villa/castle/crib on Innistrad to ask for her help in finding Sorin, to which she pretty much just responded with "Hell naw, fuck that shit, I ain't going anywhere near that vampire bastard." and suggesting him to do the same.

>>46335019
And we had this card spoiled.

>>46334719
A buddy of mine once passed me a Nocturnus he'd opened first pack in draft. It was both a good card in the format and worth a decent amount of money. I gave him a look like he was crazy, and he just shrugged.

I later found out he had opened a foil
Baneslayer. This was the height of Walletslaying, too.

>>46335133
Prolly what's gonna happen is:
>Jace goes to Marker Manor
>Shit's fucked
>He leaves with Tamiyo's diary
>Gets attacked by angels
>Goes back to Lili's Crib thinking she's behind it because she hates angels
>Card
>They tussle sexually before Jace realizes his mistake
>Jace fucks off to find Tammy
>Jace finds Tammy
>They go on wild adventures solving shit
>End up in Thraben Cathedral I guess
>Avacyn does the window smash thing and tries to kill Jace
>Sorin swoops in to save the day
>He's forced to kill his daughterfu
>After some angst, he armors up to fuck up Nahiri
>Jace, Liliana, Arlinn (because why not), and Tamiyo get front row seats to the fight of the century
>Literally seconds before blades clash, Emrakul pops out of the moon and begins the motherfucking apocalypse
>All six of them have to defeat Emmy
>And unlike the Jacetice league, they hardly know, like, or trust each other
>Also Sorin makes the oath and becomes the Black Ranger

>>46314254
Yeah man with all those cheap 1 mana draw spells and free counterspells in Standard, you'll be able to transform it turn 4 at the latest.

I think it'll be sweet in Modern and potentially Legacy where you have more Young Pyromancer/Monastery Mentor builds

How many of each card type should I generally have in a deck to not just have opponents' countermeasures barreling down on it?

>>46336090
The depends entirely on your deck, really.

In most cases, creatures should be your priority. I like to have 15-20 of them, unless I'm playing a creature-based deck. Lands usually tally in between 20 and 28, depending on how much you need them and how fast your deck is. The rest of the cards should be whatever else you need for your deck to work, so generally either removal, responses or support enchantments/artifacts, in most cases.

>>46309262
Here is my brew:

Mono Black Control basically. Play testing has been really good so far. For full details http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/28-03-16-black-white-control/ +1 appreciated

Land (26)

4x Caves of Koilos

3x Plains
4x Shambling Vent
12x Swamp
3x Westvale Abbey

Sorcery (11)

4x Duress
4x Languish
3x Read the Bones

Creature (12)

1x Archangel Avacyn
3x Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet
4x Mindwrack Demon
4x Relentless Dead

Instant (8)

4x Anguished Unmaking
3x Grasp of Darkness
1x Secure the Wastes

Planeswalker (3)

3x Sorin, Grim Nemesis

Sideboard (15)

2x Declaration in Stone
2x Hallowed Moonlight
2x Infinite Obliteration
3x Pitiless Horde
1x Planar Outburst
1x To the Slaughter
2x Transgress the Mind
2x Ultimate Price

Cryptolith dropped back down. How long 'til it's one of the most expensive cards in the set?

>>46311112
>what's your take on sealed meta
>sealed meta
>SEALED meta
>SEALED
>S E A L E D
No wonder why /tg/ is bad at magic with this kind of reading problem

>>46336534
Let me know what you guys think btw

Is MTG worth getting into? I was more of a YuGiOh guy in my teen years. Been playing hearthstone 'casually.' Just recently found out HS is a basically a dumbed down version of MTG. I downloaded the app, starting there.

>>46309262

4 Caves of Koilos
2 Westvale Abbey
4 Forsaken Sanctuary
4 Shambling Vent
7 Swamp
5 Plains

4 Felidar Sovereign
2 Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet
4 Ayli, Eternal Pilgrim


3 Declaration in Stone
3 Anguished Unmaking
3 Secure the Wastes
4 Grasp of Darkness
3 Read the Bones

2 Silkwrap

4 Gideon, Ally of Zendikar
2 Sorin, Grim Nemesis

>>46314254
>Turn 2 do nothing for like 3 or 4 turns
>Meanwhile
>Reflector mage your shit
>Ultimate price
>Silkwrap
>Roast
>Grasp of darkness
>Ruinous path

You wasted a turn 2 play/ for a shit card that do nothing and that you can't trigger when you want in standard.
+ Horrible topdeck after turn 2.

I really hope to see the fuckers who pre ordered this shit for $15+ cry when the cards will be a less than $5 rare

>>46316447
>4 good cheap spell
>That you can play when you want (aka not countermagic)
>In standard
>In blue
can you give me 3 exemples please ?

>what you brewing
Probably Gruul

>what will be tier 1?
Control probably

>why don't u have a play set of Jace yet?

I got two, one being a Black Jace

>>46336941
Too many 6 drops dude

>>46336959
You've committed them to using at LEAST 2 mana often 3 if they can remove it/you can't protect it with counter magic. Would you say the same thing about Jace? This card will be bonkers, I'm not even the anon you were talking to.

>>46337061
>Black Jace
I think I'm missing a joke here.

>>46332239
Don't try to shove the rules down players' throats when they try to make a simple correction to a quick boneheaded mistake. Save it for when they're genuinely trying to cheat.

>>46337079
What do you think, drop down to 2 Sovereigns and go up to 4 Secure the Wastes and 3 Silkwraps?

>mfw I will be using anime sleeves at prerelease this weekend

>>46337627

>>46337251
Dies to removal is not a valid argument. Jace gets value if you can untap with him. This card is a do nothing two drop that doesn't gain any value until you've invested 4 more cards into it.

>>46338002
>dies to removal is not a valid argument
uh sorry anon but i think you're in the wrong thread. casual mtg general is that way --->>

>>46333195
>Wear meme referencing clothes
So DO wear something like pic related?

>>46338347
>White/Red Vamp

>>46338617
Sorry, here's something more fitting

>>46338699
Much better, thanks.

Could I get some help with my sideboard on building this new deck of mine, relatively new guy.

Creatures

4x Hedron Crawler
3x Reality Smasher
4x Matter Reshaper
3x Lightning Berserker
4x Hangarback Walker
4x Vile Aggregate
1x Zurgo Bellstriker
3x Thopter Engineer
2x Pia and Kiran Nalaar

Spells:

4x Tormenting Voice
3x Exquisite Firecraft
4x Fiery Impulse

Lands

9x Mountains
4x Ruins of Oran-Rief
4x Smoldering Marsh
4x Shivan Reef

>>46336179
I don't think I would ever recommend anyone put 28 lands in a deck but I've been wrong before. Even for control the most I would shove in there is 26 maybe.

>>46338945
I meant absolute hardcore land-focused decks, as Landfall is a deck right now. I've seen a few run that many in those, which can be understandable.

>>46339022
AH that's true. It just seems like so many but landfall justifies it.

>>46309262
>what you brewing
2x Abbot of Keral Keep
4x Avacyn's Judgment
4x Burn from Within
2x Chandra, Fire of Kaladesh
4x Dance with Devils
4x Exquisite Firecraft
4x Fiery Temper
24x Mountain
4x Pyromancer's Goggles
4x Tormenting Voice
4x Vessel of Volatility
Sideboard:
3x Pyre Hound
4x Roast
4x Sanguinary Mage
4x Scab-Clan Berserker

>>46314527
Mono-Red is best.

This is a rough draft of a Jeskai dragons list. It's mostly geared towards the shitters playing memepires at the start of this meta. Once the meta develops I'll probably switch to grixis control.

4 ojutai
4 jace vp
3 icefall regent
2 reflector Mage
13

4 silumgar's scorn
3 clash of wills
2 horribly arwy
1 dispel
4 draconic roar
3 oujitais command
1 fiery impulse

3 epiphany at the drownyard
1 silkwrap

4 prairie stream
4 port town
4 Shivan reef
1 battlefield forge
2 wandering fumarole
4 islands
2 plains
2 mountains
1 haven of the spirit dragon

3 radiant flames
2 negate
2 planar outburst
2 surge of righteousness
1 sphinx of da final word
1 avacyns judgement
2 stasis snare
1 big jace
1 linvala

BR Vamps are not a meme and will be relevant mostly because Olivia, Kalitas and Drana.

Thing in the Ice is overrated but not a meme. Izzet Horrors will be relevant.

Bant Collected Humans is a meme.

Dimir and Esper control will be relevant.

Ormendahl Tokens is a meme.

>>46337363
ob nix?

Is there any logic behind how Innistrad exists? It's an extremely shitty and dangerous place for humans. If they left, what would the monsters prey on?

>>46336179
Well, I have 2 discard cards that choose 1 out of the opponent's hand, is that enough to help with only having 2 enchantment cards in a deck? I have 3 artifacts in, too, but it seems like more popular cards used like Naturalize in current standard focus on eliminating enchantments.

>>46339644
Sorin first created the angels on Innistrad to protect the humans from the monsters. He was still at pre mending power so I don't know how long ago that was. Generally, yea it sucks to be a human on in Innistrad

>>46329322
Well, no. BR aggro madness builds itself and is obviously encouraged by WotC. BW warriors was some niche garbage slapped together that never did anything.

BW clerics will be the BW warriors of SoI.

>>46339644
Each other.
Which would honestly be more interesting.
Assuming Werewolves stayed they would have a much more interesting dynamic against predator Vampires, who would be SOL went it came to food.
Zombies rising from the grave would be an inconvenience rather than a legitimate threat because of the lack of human bodies to replace them. Demons and Devils would probably get bored of trolling Vampires because you can only convince an immortal monster to betray his friends so many times before someone figures out your shit

>>46339644
Humans don't have anywhere else to go. Only planeswalkers can move between planes and Innistrad has been touted as probably the smallest plane we currently know of.

Humanity's stuck with monsters.

>>46339730
You shouldn't have cards in a deck solely because of their card types. It's what they do that's important. There have been many successful decks with 0 artifacts or 0 enchantments.

>>46339644
If Planeswalkers can mass-evac them, most won't.

A better question is, is it realistic that they would go nuts on each other as much as they do in this block with so much in the way of common enemies of other species? Seems more likely they'd just get more brutal toward the other species.

>>46339944
>You shouldn't have cards in a deck solely because of their card types
You should if your deck is invested in the delirium mechanic and you want to get a decent amount of value off of it.

Unless you're suggesting that entire mechanic is draft bait in which case I agree.

>>46336934
>hearthstone is a dumbed down mtg

I mean... i guess in the same way that an american football video game is a dumbed down version of baseball?

>>46339409
>Izzet Horrors will be relevant.

>>46339999
>dem quads
I haven't really given delirium much thought, it might have potential

>>46339999
>talks Delirium
>gets quads
Heh.

Even with Delirium, though, you don't need to play everything. Just about every deck has Creatures, so that's covered. Add in Evolving Wilds or any other sac land and you're already halfway there. Just playing Creatures, lands, Instants and Sorceries is enough to get you into Delirium fairly easily, especially with UW's filtering power.

>>46339944
>with 0 artifacts or 0 enchantments.
>0

I want you to think about what you said there for a few seconds...

>>46339730
No one is going to randomly pack artifact or enchantment hate, they'll only consider them if a deck or decks that rely on them become common.

>>46340146
Not that guy, but why? Off the top of my head burn generally has neither and most aggro decks don't either.

>>46340203
>0
>No cards of that type for hate against it to hone in on.

>>46340155
2 words:Dromoka's Command

>>46339409
'Meme' means so many things to so many people, is completely useless here. Find better words.

>>46340339
Dromoka's Command is an outlier. It's not run for the hate mode, the fact it has it is just convenient sometimes. People don't put stuff like Naturalize or Disenchant in their deck for no reason.

>>46339850
BW warriors built itself too. Throw in your Lords, throw in tribal beats, lose every game. Clerics have zero tribal support this set. They printed ayli to give us a bw cleric legend for edh, not because they're pushing clerics.

>>46340339
>no cards of that type for hate against it to hone in on

Uh.. yeah? This makes no fucking sense anon

>>46340442
>BW warriors built itself too. Throw in your Lords, throw in tribal beats, lose every game.
Did you not know how to pilot that deck?

>>46340339
>playing cards you don't need of types you don't need so that your opponent uses their sideboarded hate against them
Why the fuck would you?

>>46340653
are you retarded

>>46340522
Ofc I do. It's your standard weenie/midrange fare. It just sucks.

>>46309262
>>what you brewing
DRONES OVER THRABEN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulYKfAy3cPk

>>46339972
When your worldview is set up where pale people suck your blood, hairy people turn to beasts and eat you, and the nice scientist from down the road has your dead grandmother pounding on your door you're going to suspect everyone around you of being a monsterous fuck in disguise who needs some cleansing fire on their soul.
The moral of Innistrad is that humans were the worst monsters all along.

>>46340470
DEAR GOD, THE DENSITY IS AT BLACK HOLE LEVELS!

>>46333132

>>46341224

Nice try, faggot

>>46312163

With a standard playable bounce spell I don't think this guy is worth running. Having your opponent cast Just the Wind on this guy with his trigger on the stack is a huge blowout.

>>46337363
>not knowing about the superior comic con planeswalkers
niggas aint shit around here

>>46341417
I need a playset so bad.

>>46341437
She looks so fucking asian on her flipside there.

>>46341327
>No idea how pants-on-head retarded his posts are

'k then.

>>46341960
>keeps shitposting instead of formulating what the flying fuck he meant with his statement in a semi-coherent way

>>46334719

I pulled a triple mythic(one flip, one regular, one foil) pack in the original Innistrad block. Can't remember what set or what the cards were because I didn't like original Innistrad, but I remember the looks of hate I got when I opened it from my friends. Shit, one of the first three Conspiracy packs I bought had the blue mythic legendary and a foil Dack. Foil mythics are not that rare.

>>46342463
>I didn't like original Innistrad
Are you, like, a unicorn? I think I never heard someone say that before.

>>46340424
>People don't put stuff like Naturalize or Disenchant in their deck for no reason.

I keep things like that in my deck for all the nice gifts my permanents have been getting in the forms of Quarantine Field, stasis Snare and other Oblivion Ring-related things in my meta.

>>46342463
lol are you retarded

>>46342504

I was pretty much only doing kitchen table casual shit back then, so a lot of decks friends and I would make were tribal bullshit, and for whatever reason I never really liked the tribes. Went apeshit over the vampires in Zendikar, but never liked how they were in Innistrad.

>>46342059
>Thinks his obvious incredible stupidity deserves a different kind of response at this point.

You keep at it, champ.

>>46342839
>thinks he's talking to a single person

Aren't you a hilarious fellow.

>>46342562
Yeah, when enchantments are common hate will be as well, but no one just decides to throw in some random hate "because"

>>46342884
>At least most of it isn't highly apparently 1 obviously ass-pained dumb-shit

>It somehow means the posts aren't stupid as fuck, regardless

It's an absolutely abstract kind of real fuckin' cancer going on.

>>46343239
>14 decks on tier 1
>cancer

Maybe you would feel better playing Yugioh with their eternal single $800 deck format?

>>46343239
>3-1
> Deck: R
>Price: 2.48

>>46343313
>anything that wins less than 5% being tier 1

>>46343440
I am wondering about that as well.
I can only imagine the sheer salt produced being beaten by a deck that's absolute pocket change.

>>46343513
>>46343440

>>46343440
>>46343513
It costs about $35 IRL.

MTGO costs are very strange.

http://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/393415#online

>>46342971
1 of my questions is should I not bother to put 2 Ob Nixilis in a deck with no other planeswalkers because things like Ruinous Path, watered-down Vindicate, ect + other general measures against plainswalkers in decks will take down so few so fast that it would be like tapping 5 mana for nothing or are there reasons I shouldn't worry about it?

>>46343789
are you literally retarded?

>>46343513
>>46343440
Probably partly because it's about to cycle out.

Thoughts on how I can improve this deck? Sideboard is still a work in progress.

>>46344056
throw it in the trash, lol

>>46339972
>>46339644
It would actually be pretty funny if it ended up like Supernatural's "Purgatory" without it being an afterlife because someone found a way to evacuate all the humans. That would be too positive for the goth-bitch writers, though.

>>46344149
Advise in Standard General in a nutshell.

>>46344149
Advice in Standard General in a nutshell.

>>46344331
learn to spell u mong

>>46344149

But it's good.

>>46343789
You shouldn't exclude good cards for your deck from it because "they die to removal" it's one of the most fallacious arguments made by new players who think they're pros.

>testing Ravenous Rats deck against AI for the keks
>one-shots me with this

why do computers hate fun?

>>46343541
Kek what a glorious mf

So with all the graveyard interaction going on, do you think she might get to see some play as the top of a curve in a RB or jund midrange deck?

>>46345476
In that case it becomes pretty obvious pretty fast what to use the biggest anti-planeswalker stuff on, though.

>>46345464
yeah it's really not, there are basically no redeeming qualities for this pile.

>>46345994
no
lol

SOI draft on xmage right now

Anybody have ideas for Eldrazi outside of aggro? I'd like to do something more midrange than what the popular eldrazi decks are doing.

>>46344331
You get what you pay for, and this is free.

>>46346489
I vsed a rw midrange deck with tks, the flicker eldrazi removal and chandras. Might be a place to start from.

>>46346502
>LOLZ NO CONSEQUENCES BECAUSE IM ANONYMOUS!

>>46346505
Do you think the mana base now will be able to support 3 colors?(colorless is basically a color)

>>46346560
I would assume its possible with cards like crumbling vestige and the pain lands being pretty dece. And if you do want to add more colorless sources you can always use the 2 mana ramp dude.

i mean you can definitely support two colors + colorless whether it's an ally or an enemy pair. enemy is a bit better obviously but ally is doable as well. the question is what is the point, when monored and monoblue eldrazi are already such strong decks?

>>46346614
The point would be to have an Eldrazi deck that isn't jam in 28 creatures and go to pound town. I played Atarka Red for a long time. I'm sick of turning guys sideways and praying they don't have removal. I also really like Thot knot and Reality Smasher.

>>46346638
> I'm sick of turning guys sideways
ok maybe the eldrazi decks aren't for yo-
> I also really like Thot knot and Reality Smasher.
HMMMMMMMMMMM idk anon i think you need to get ur shit together

>>46346660
Maybe. Honestly I'm just glad 4 color nightmare is ending soon. I really just want a nice midrange deck that plays fatties and removes their fatties.

Is a t3 4/4 trample hexproof good enough for the format? How about t4? If I have removal to back it up then it should be able to get in for some good damage right?
I haven't played standard since theros rotated out and I decided to sell my U/B control deck to buy lantern control. Never really bought into creatures the tapping so I'd want /tg/s 'expert' opinion.

>>46346723
I assume you're talking about this card. Transforming it turn 3 would be amazing, and I would transform it turn 4 or 5 and still be alright with it. Whether you can activate delirium that quickly is a big question, though.

>>46346758
Fuck me

>>46346502
You mean like any other forum? The only difference here is that you can be a complete arse and no one will know who you are.

>>46346758
Shhhh anon no need for images in christmas land. If you play the B enchant t1 then t2 a evolving wilds and crack the enchant discarding anything other than a land/enchant you have the card turned on by turn three. You can also ram any 1 mana creature into another creature instead of the evolving wilds to get it to activate.

How shit is it?
Pls help

2x Ayli, Eternal Pilgrim
3x Cliffhaven Vampire
4x Drana's Emissary
4x Kalastria Healer
2x Topplegeist
2x Vampire Envoy
4x Zulaport Cutthroat

2x Retreat to Emeria
4x Triskaidekaphobia
4x Foul-Tongue Shriek
4x Captain's Claws

>>46346836
You can also gather the pack t2 and pitch 5 cards, that combined with a 1 drop would most likely activate delirium.

>>46346861
>Topplegeist with no delirium enablers
More like, topKek

>>46346861
>>46346861
>running topplekek at all
it's not even good with delirium lol
>captains claws
>13 enchant
wat am i even reading anon

>>46346865
Hangerback walker is 2 delerium types in a pinch and if you play it with this QT then the entire deck gets a little better for the late game.

>>46346879
>>46346891
Ok what do you suggest in place of if then?
And I only count 6 enchants

>>46347003
i man that Triskaidekaphobia thing
like i didn't realize it was a Triskaidekaphobia deck until i got to that point and i was like
alright
im done lol
dropped this shit
threw it in the trash
what is this deck even supposed to be hoyl shit

>>46347044
>what is this deck even supposed to be hoyl shit
Drain your opponents life to 13 if you have it and 0 if you don't?

>>46343541

A guy at my lgs plays this deck, sometimes he can get nice results if he draws a good hand.

>>46347078
>if you have it
nigga there's fucking 4 of them in ur deck lol

>>46341437
>>46341417
fat neck-beards will pay a ton for these soon to be worthless pieces of paper
>>46341960
>>46342059
>>46341327
pissing contest?

>>46347044
>>46347145

How dare he try to play a deck because it seems fun?

Do us all a favor by stop posting and then killing yourself.

>>46347243
are you retarded

also even if u knew how to read
casual mtg general is THAT way ---->>>
this is standard general idk how you got here but this clearly isnt where you intended to be

I want Merfolk looter in standard.

>>46309262
>see this post
What's the big deal?
>lookup price
>realize I had a playset somewhere that I can't find
>$360 lost
>feel sick

>>46347271
Sorry I didnt see the sign that said this was the tier one pros only room.

He posted a deck that is standard legal. Its a gimick deck and its not good, but he just wants help trying to make the stupid thing work. Rather than help or just fucking ignore him you decided to be an ass just like you have this entire thread.

Like I said, kill yourself and make the world a better place.

>>46347346
sorry i didn't see the sign that said we're supposed to tolerate filthy casuals like you

you can lick the dirt off my shoes like normal, casualbab

>>46346861
I would go
-2 Topplegeist, so you become full ally (also he doesnt work towards the triskaidekaphobia, and the deck does not have many ways to enable delirium)
+2 Ultimate Price (some removal, just incase)
-4 Captain Claw's (you already get ally tokens with Retreat to Emeria, and you don't really need that much)
+4 March from the Tomb (to bring back the sweet Kalastria Healers after he killed them)
25 lands: 4x Ally Encampment (since its full ally now)
4x Westvale Abbey (mabye you need to get below 13 life, so you dont die to your own triskaidekaphobia, also you can get a big dude)
4x Caves of Koilos
3x Plains
10x Swamp

but I'm at no means a pro deck builder
(also this sounds really fun, might even try it)

>>46347365
>Oh noes, I've been put in my place by the ebin master of a children's card game
>Truly I have no reason to go on with the great impact this will have on me
>To earn the contempt of one so noble and masterful is truly disgraceful
>I must commit sodoku

>>46347555
looks good, thanks for th suggestions

>>46318636
actually its a fast burn. do you control multiple monsters? 300 for each. those set or active spells/traps? 300 each. they got a field spell? have another 300. they run pendulums? you better believe thats another 600.

thats a potential 3900 total damage just for controlling a generic syncro.

>>46346089
And...? You are firsr assuming they're packing enough cards that can hit planeswalkers that they will still have some available when you cast your walker and you're assuming that even if they do it's a big problem of they blow up your walker after you've already gotten value off of it.

Basically, if a walker is a good fit in your deck use it, if not then don't. There isn't enough planeswalker hate to completely hate them out of the format.

>>46346089
A good player will know what in your deck to use removal on anyway, anon. Seeing a few cards from your deck will tell them what deck you're playing and from that they'll know what to hit, that doesn't mean you shouldn't run good stuff.

>>46311125

>posting worst girl

>>46347323
You get his $90 brother instead.

Need a good madness deck, any suggestions?

Please r8

1x Archangel of Tithes
2x Hanweir Militia Captain Flip
4x Loam Dryad
3x Orchard Spirit
2x Reaper of Flight Moonsilver
1x Sigarda, Heron's Grace

1x Tamiyo's Journal

4x Celestial Flare
4x Immolating Glare
1x Reclaim
4x Silverstrike

2x Explosive Vegetation
2x Gather the Pack
1x Seasons Past

1x Autumnal Gloom
1x Sheltered Aerie
2x Vessel of Ephemera
2x Vessel of Nascency

8x Forest
4x Fortified Village
8x Plains