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Andy Waaaagh!ol Edition

Alternate chapters/ factions header picture sub-edition

>Rules databases
https://mega.co.nz/#F!pFgm0RKR!J06C1gVYcjzNGsF8YNLsjQ
https://kat.cr/warhammer-40k-pdf-library-t9575373.html

>FAQs
http://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Rules-Errata

>40k 7th edition quick reference sheet(s)
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4104995/Games/7edRef_V6.pdf

>Forgeworld Book index
http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Forge_World_and_Apocalypse_Rules_Index

>/TG/ Argument lore and tactica
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Butthurt

>New Chaos stats and painting guides
http://m.instructables.com/id/Bloody-Broken-Glass-Cupcakes-for-Halloween/

>Best Space Marine Chapter
http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Phantoms

>> No.44021852

>>44021836

Forgot to title like a faggot...

>> No.44021879
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There's not much point to putting heavy weapons on sternguard, is there?

>> No.44021906

>>44021879
not really. you have the option for combi bolters and special ammo

>> No.44021932

Where do I look for more fluff on dark apostles

>> No.44021935

>>44021879

I am sure there are some viable applications but for the most part I don't think I have ever seen it.

>>44021734

Yeah it was brutal, besides the eleven powerklaws my Nobs/Boss had I simply did not have the anti-tank necessary to deal with that many Leman Russ.

You are right the Pask was in a Punisher and the other two were Executioners(?)

>> No.44021976

>>44021935
Ignores cover plasma yeah?

>> No.44022090

So pathfinders get some shit because they're static and squishy, but they're useful for more than markerlights because they can get positional relays AND homing beacons. Put that in a devilfish and run around or just use scout to put them in a forward position and drop your suits on them.
It makes the infiltration cadre fucking hilarious because just about every unit in it can be fitted with beacons.

>> No.44022150

Is it too much to kit Veteran squads in a Chimera with a couple Meltaguns and Heavy Flamers to shit on deepstriking Raiders? I'm not fond of Blasters getting behind or next to my Hydras/Tanks

>> No.44022192

>>44022090
The biggest thing is that compared to a Drone Squadron, they've got a lower armor save, less toughness, and they have to stand still to not snapshot.

In terms of Homing Beacons and Positional Relays, a Stealth Team will probably do better. They can infiltrate and have a very nice cover save.

Pathfinders want to be fast mobile scouts, but their Markerlights weigh them down too much.

>> No.44022241

>>44022192
A min squad of pathfinders is cheaper than a min squad of stealth suits for spamming homing beacons, and I doubt stealth suits are popular outside of the formation but pathfinders are a go-to unit.

>> No.44022328

>>44022241
A stealth team is 115 points for a Positional Relay and Homing Beacon, but can Infiltrate so they don't have to cross the board to get where you want, and are more survivable while there.

A Pathfinder team is 72 points for just the Team and the Recon Drone, but also requires another 80 for a Devilfish to help them cross the board.

>> No.44022368

So, custom marine chapter fag from 2(?) threads ago, got my wishlist and all done up and nice but was wondering, how does the benefits of the full battle company stack up? Does free transports really outweigh the troop taxes?

>> No.44022411

>>44022368
Free razorbacks

>> No.44022458

>>44022368
Free transports are great, since it can add up to a lot of extra points above the baseline, but it will run you quite a bit money-wise, since you need a large number to get the most value.

>> No.44022477

Instead of getting another unit of grav bikes for my ravenwing I am considering a three man squad of Black Knights. For just a few points more they get so much and then I have something that isnt too shy from an assault.

>> No.44022530

>>44022411
>>44022458
Ah, I see. It was mainly because I was building something mainlining Sternguard with Razorbacks and the points tally wasn't even a close match at the 2500 point mark. But thinking about it, those units are free and you have more to play with so I am in fact, just retarded.

>> No.44022555
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Slaughter is awesome.
The High Lords are awesome, especially Vangorich and Wienand.
The Orks are awesome.

I fell in love with this series.

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>>44021836
Hey 40k general

I took some advice and bought the DV kit to start out with.

What do you guys use to remove the extra break points from the mold?

just an exacto blade and a wood nail file?

>> No.44022634

>>44021932
The Word Bearer novel series.

>> No.44022657

>>44022601

yup

>> No.44022686

>>44021932
Word Bearers trilogy
HH - The First Heretic
HH - Betrayer
HH - Macragge's Honour
HH - Mark of Calth
HH - The Unburdened
HH - The Purge

>> No.44022714

>>44022601
other new player here, how easy would it be to remove the dark angels symbols if I just wanted to run a generic SM army?

>> No.44022750

>>44022714
as easy as filing it down to be smooth.

>> No.44022808

>>44022601
knife and sometimes file from Army Painter

>> No.44022809

>>44022750
would it be better value to just go for the 30k plastic set if you want to play space marines?

>> No.44022817

Ionhead or 2 Missilesides vs a Dark Angels?

>> No.44022848

>>44022809
yes
a thousand times yes

>> No.44022854

>>44022714
there is no rule against playing DA as SM.
If you still want to remove the DA symbols, you need to invest some time to file them off or buy other shoulder pads you like, e.g. from FW

>> No.44022871

>>44022809
yes, you have so many options there and the parts are generic. Also, you don't have to trade half of the content.

>> No.44022880

>>44022809
Absolutely yes.

>> No.44023005

>>44022150
You cant take 2 meltas and 2 heavy flamers in one squad.

If youre trying to counter DS units, a 65 point Chimera might be a questionable use of points. Just put them in cover, or buy an aegis wall and place it wisely.

>> No.44023012

>>44021836
What the fuck are niggers doing to the header?

>> No.44023073

>>44022150
>Use Coteaz for "I've been expecting you" rule
>Put Coteaz in a veteran squad with 3 plasma guns and a Lascannon
>Place unit near open ground in your deployment
>???
>Profit

>> No.44023123

>>44022848
>>44022871
>>44022880
thanks guys

I'll probably build 1-2 of the tactical squads then try and slowly piece the spare bodies into more interesting units like sternguard, devastators or assault marines.

>> No.44023175

I am slowly building a SM army (imperial fists), with mainly a defensive strategy for combat (I'm new in this field). So far I have
1 SM tactical squad
1 venerable dreadnought
1 Rhino/Razorback
Lysander
what do you guy suggest me to get next? What am I missing to make a very basic SM army?

>> No.44023332

>>44022192
PFs are cheaper and have bs3, though. Drones need a commander or that one formation (which you can't get in the hunter contingent) to be able to hit things even semi reliably. If the formation is not availeable (I consider running decurion and additional formations to be too much, and most tournaments around here seem to be moving to making decurions count as all formations you're allowed to take), I'd use commander in a drone unit and some small PF units, maybe with some markerlights in stealthsuit units (in the OSC they get good bs on their own). Of course when not using the hunter contingent you could just take tetras, which are by far the best source of markerlights, being fast, reliable (2 twinlinked bs3 markerlights) and still pretty cheap.

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>>44022555

>go to GW to pick up a copy
>only available in higher priced hardback that takes up a lot of space

No thanks.

>> No.44023407

>>44023332
Drones only have BS 2, but they do have the benefit of more durability and being able to JSJ while firing Markerlights.

Personally though, I do prefer to use Pathfinders and Stealth Suits for my Markerlight needs.

>> No.44023423

>>44023175
More Troops. Thunderfire Cannons or Devastators.

>> No.44023486

I keep getting wrecked by landraiders, I can't stop them before they unload terminators all in my face and sits around behind ruins being fucking impossible to kill.

I play imperial guard and it's difficult intercepting it with melta veterans only get a hullpoint or two off before it spews mutlicharging terminators all over them and lascannon teams bounce off them even with bring it down. Do I just need more melta?

>> No.44023544

I'm using the Chimeras as transports for my infantry squads to sit on objectives and to help if something that gets DS'd on. I'm bringing 3 LR Tanks, 2 Vet squads and 2 Wyverns. It'll be a 1000 point game rematch against DE.

>> No.44023568

>>44023486
The Landraider's natural enemy is the Hypothetical Melta. Just convince your opponent a LR is not worth the points because theoretically it can get blown up by a single meltagun (the Hypothetical Melta will always deep strike or otherwise move near the LR before it gets close to the enemy, will always hit and pen, and rolls the explodes, or at least immobilized result every time).

>> No.44023575

>>44023486
What you need are allies with grav or haywire. But in-codex, yes, lots of melta. Pull the cheesiest shit you can. Scions can be good for this: Drop a Command Squad full of melta out of a Valkyrie, or swarm it with Fast Tauroxes full of melta troops.

Otherwise, suicide Devil Dogs melta-blasting the thing can work, and they might even kill the Termies.

>> No.44023677

>>44023544
Meant for >>44023005

>> No.44023726

>>44023544
You need an Enginseer to keep them from chipping the LRs down. Dark Eldar can glance the shit out of things, so have that red-robed asshole smack them with his wrench to keep them alive.

>> No.44023740

Would it be cool if for homebrew chapters GW released a list of generic chapter tactics which was a "pick from one/two of these abilities and apply it armywide" type of thing? Or would that just lead to min/maxing?

>> No.44023773

>>44023740
Yes, it would be awesome.
Yes, everyone would pick the retarded unfun cheese options.

>> No.44023829

>>44023740
They did something like that for the 4th edition Marine book (pick an advantage and a disadvantage), which resulted in everybody picked the most irrelevant disadvantage (can't use allies; that'd be huge now but back then it mean you couldn't include a Daemon/Witch Hunters unit, as those were the only allies back then) and one of the best advantages.

>> No.44023854

>>44023740
It'd be really cool, but the same could be said for just making more Chapter Tactics in general. The ones Forgeworld released offer a lot of extra options just by themselves, and re-fluffing is easy.

I think the main thing they should do is just add more normal Chapter tactics in a supplement to fill in some of the gaps in specialties, like a force focused on vehicles or flyers, or marines who use Plasma to a greater effect.

>> No.44023902

Guys I need advice.
>I came back to my hometown for work
>It's pretty small and the only other person who plays warhams is someone I knew growing up
>He's an autist who wears a fedora
>he won't play against my army of SoBs that I left behind here with his eldar
>says it breaks his moral code to do battle to women, even if they're fake

Is it worth it having my orks shipped down here? It would cost a bit of cash but I'm going to be here for a while and I might get the urge to play.

>> No.44023950

>>44023902

It isn't even worth playing the game if your playgroup is shit.

>> No.44023970

>>44023740
Yeah, by giving players choice they instantly choose the most cheesy option.

The same thing happened with Guard doctrines.

>> No.44023973

>>44023726
How reliable are Techpriests alone? I'm planning on using some points on Camo Nets on my 3 Tanks since the map is cover heavy and because I'm sure they will be the center of attention to all Dark Lances / Blasters.

>> No.44024043

>>44023902
>>he won't play against my army of SoBs that I left behind here with his eldar
>>says it breaks his moral code to do battle to women, even if they're fake

WTF? This is the most moronic thing I have read in a long time.

How isolated are you? Is there another town you could drive over to?

>> No.44024061

>>44023973
Not really all that great alone. Really the best way to run them is to give them a Trojan as a DT (if your meta is FW friendly) and a servitor retinue to keep things off his ass while he fixes tanks.

I still find myself taking them a lot, though.

>> No.44024076

>>44023970
>The same thing happened with Guard doctrines.

Lets see if I remember the choice doctrines for IG... I believe they were

Iron Discipline
Close Order Drill
Drop Troops
Veterans

drawing a blank on the fifth though...

>> No.44024124

>>44023950
I guess so, I just want to play ya know?

>>44024043
It's a five hour drive to the closest place that has a game store, but I don't have my main army which is orks with me. I only have about ~750 pts of sisters.

>> No.44024178

>>44023902

>he won't play against my army of SoBs that I left behind here with his eldar
>says it breaks his moral code to do battle to women, even if they're fake

Except Eldar have females. They have an entire aspect of ladies and a matriarchal craftworld. Anon, are you telling lies again?

>> No.44024305

>>44023902
Fuck no, he's obviously a retard. Steer clear of him and just build/paint until you can find other people that play.

If dude is that big of a tard, I can only imagine what other gems he'll drop on you once you start associating with him. Avoid like the plague.

>> No.44024309

>>44024178
>army has females
>army is females
There's a difference. Most Eldar models are male anyway.

Why would he even lie on an anonymous North Korean animal husbandry board, anyway?

>> No.44024338

>>44023740
HH has guidelines for playing the lost Legions.

>> No.44024393

>>44024124

I feel your pain Anon, I am almost done with my second army so I can practice against myself since I am still so new I mess up probably too much.

>> No.44024417

>>44024309

>There's a difference.

No. No there isn't. If you refuse to fight women you refuse to fight women. The standard of green text is slipping and I for one, am outraged.

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>>44024309
>Not having a converted Llybrasyl army with dem hips, fat asses and big hips

>> No.44024442

>>44024178
Do you really think I'd do that? Lie on an anonymous Taiwanese yak herding forum?

I need advice anon, and this is the only place I can get it from

>>44024305
>>44024393
Thanks guys

>> No.44024524

>>44021879
>>44021879
Well I like to take heavy flamers on my sternguards, since the only other squad that can take them are termies, and whenever I do a suicide, combi melta drop pod assault, the heavy flamer might weaken some tarpits before my squad gets rage killed

>> No.44024543

>>44023175
Just get out now, or switch to HH. Your approach doesnt work in 40k. Most 40k communities have been overrun by waac faggots playing formations and loopholing/abusing RAW/RAI. Its a shitshow and no longer fun.

Most of the fun/lore-centric players either stopped showing up or play HH now.

Unless you live in one of these casual or fun metas, which I dont believe exist outside of the internet. If someone claims you can walk into the flgs or local GW and find players who arent running netlists or formations, they are either lying or not telling the truth. 40k is in a terrible state right now.

Im just trying to save you some time man. Go straight to HH, trust me. Esp. if youre going IF.

>> No.44024621

>>44024417
>not being able to separate make-believe games and real life
>not understanding the differences between toys and real people

This is beyond simple autism.

>> No.44024646
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Anybody use this thing? How is it?

>> No.44024687

>>44024646
Is that the FW one that JSJ's off the fucking table? Dont be that guy.

>> No.44024724

>>44024646
That's the Fast-Attack Riptide right? I haven't used it myself, but as far as I can tell it's shorter range but faster than the standard one.

It's still a Riptide, so it's going to do well regardless.

>> No.44024731

>>44024646
Very good at it's job. and no much else. Great if you really hate Power armor.

>> No.44024734

>>44024687
>unit can do thing
>DON'T USE IT AND BE THAT GUY
The Y'Vahra is the most fair of the riptide variants.

>> No.44024752

>>44024731
*compared to vanilla riptide.

>> No.44024772

Hi guys I have a question should my new army be SPACE WOLVES or SPACE NECRONS?

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>>44024438

>Death By Snu-Snu

>> No.44024802

>>44024646

It's excellent. I've found good use with it jetting forward 24", nuking a vehicle or two, and then jumping behind cover. If things get bothersome, novacharge for reserves. Best case scenario, it's ignored and continues to wreck stuff. Worst case, the enemy turns their resources on it, letting my other stuff get into position.

Mathwise it can down a knight a turn, especially if novacharged.

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>>44024772

Are you a FURRY or a NECROPHILIAC?

>> No.44024854

>>44024836
BOTH

>> No.44024879

>>44024854
There's your answer

>> No.44024918 [DELETED] 

I was thinking of making an Ork Blood Axes army, and for that purpose it would be Orks allied to Imperial Guard, to represent the fact that the Blood Axes are used to act as mercenaries in exchange of weapons.
Is there some level of synergy between those two army consider that I would use a great number of kommandos and stormboyz and ignore the "Come the apocalypse" stuff for the allies or it would just and up being IG made weaker by the Orks?

>> No.44024963

>>44024854

Ahh then you are looking for Slaanesh my friend

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I was thinking of making an Ork Blood Axes army, and for that purpose it would be Orks allied to Imperial Guard, to represent the fact that the Blood Axes are used to act as mercenaries in exchange of weapons.
Is there some level of synergy between those two armies consider that I would use a great number of kommandos and stormboyz and ignore the "Come the apocalypse" stuff for the allies or it would just and up being IG made weaker by the Orks?

>> No.44025025

>>44023902
My bullshit detector is pinging loudly reading this.

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>>44025009
Take Kommandos and stormboyz, take this, and to hell with Come the Aporkalyspse

>> No.44025080

>>44024438
That sword is fucking ingenious.

I might do it myself.

>> No.44025282

>>44025070
Thanks for the suggestion. Is there some other IG formation that could cover other Orks weaknesses?

>> No.44025326

Any tips on converting a Barracuda? Or should I maybe wait until IA14 comes out so see if they even have rules anymore...

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Dawn of War Anon here and starting off the Chaos campaign. I'm getting this over with quick. I like how Eliphas considers the Blood Ravens to be the "finest of the Emperor's slaves". I guess fighting them so much has given him a little respect for them.

>> No.44025400

>>44025326
on ebay you can get one, not cheap but it's something.
Otherwise I dunno

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>>44021836
How do I counter necron Wriaths as Eldar without resorting to D or scatterbike spam?

>>44025326
That would be the safest option yeah.

>>44025337
Yay! I was missing you there. Your stuff is always entertaining to read and it keeps the thread bumped.

>> No.44025473

>>44025412
>How do I counter necron Wriaths as Eldar without resorting to D or scatterbike spam?
Wraithlords?

>> No.44025527

>>44025473
Nah the rending absolutely wrecks them. And since the wraiths are initiative 5 the wraithlord doesn't even get to strike.

>> No.44025530

>>44025473

>t8 against gauss

>3+ armour against necron heavy options

ha ha ha

>> No.44025553

>>44025527
Starcannons? Fire prisms? Fire dragons?

>> No.44025568

>>44024687
It's not an unfair unit for its points.

I'm a Guard/Admech player who plays in a Tau meta, if that lends it any credence. It kills fewer of my dudes than the base Iontide anyway.

>> No.44025603

>>44025553
Star cannons do sort of wound them but not really. I do use them but I feel low AP weapons suck against them.

Fire Prisms never made their points back for me so I never take them.

Fire dragons... Are only ten shots. Sure it's strength 8 but two wounds and 3+ kind of laughs at anti tank.

>> No.44025604

>>44025553
Anything in the Heavy Support slot, really?

>> No.44025613

>>44025568

Yeah, it looks like it works best on elite armies where it can Mont'ka and run.

Still, two shot S6 flamer and a haywire gun means it can always contribute something.

>> No.44025630

>>44025603
What have you actually taken against them, so we can give you ideas you won't shoot down based on 1d4chan rhetoric?

>> No.44025631

>>44025473

As necron player:
this fucking gun that shoot at initiative T (necron i=2, even with whip coils)
D-scythes guards (hard to charge at, can do dmg, no protocols)
magick (especialy this harlequin OP shit that hits for win/lost ld test)

and scatter spam obviously,

>> No.44025640

>>44025603
If you're against scatterbikes then how about shuriken cannon bikes, those have rending.
You can't beat them in assault so you're gonna have to shoot them to death, what's the best gun to shoot them to death?

>> No.44025677

>>44025412
Warp Spiders with that BS5 Formation stack wounds on anything Necron really well

>> No.44025680

>>44025613
I'm not saying it's shitty, by any means. It's still a Riptide, and I still struggle to kill it before it Haywires my Tank Commander to death. But what you say is very accurate, it's nasty against elite MEQ like Space Yiffs.

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>>44025412
Thanks, Anon. I'm not the biggest Chaos fan. But most of it comes from Chapter Master. Black Crusades made me hate the eight pointed star to the point Sisters of Battle would get wet from it. But if a big fleet, Slaughtersong, and the final upgrade for ships a Black Crusade isn't that bad. No. It was the Chaos Lords. Sometimes you would find a planet with 20% heresy. Not too bad you think. You would go to purge it, but what you find is no mere cult with daemons dry humping cultists to make them serve Chaos. No. You find a whole army waiting for you. Thousand or so cultists, hundreds of Chaos Space Marines, 20 Hellbrutes, 5-10 Chaos Land Raiders/Predators, and 6 Helldrakes, and a Bloodthirster or three. Sometimes it was a Lord of Change and a Keeper of Secrets. After that there's a fleet to deal with which shouldn't be too hard to deal with. But if you lose he springs a Black Crusade. You can't purge by orbital bombardment, the heresy won't go away even if you have glassed all life on the planet. You had to fight the heretics on the planet. I loathed Chaos because of that and how it would distract me from the most dangerous thing in the game. Orks. Another time one planet got a daemonic incursion which means that the heresy will go up as soon as life takes place, and there is no way to remove it. People would still go to this hive world where a daemonic incursion was. They would see the twisted landscape and think "durr seems like a nice hive world". So much time was wasted on purging it. So much savescuming.

>> No.44025735

>>44025630
>1d4chan rhetoric.

Or my own experience. What made you assume that? Have you ever actually played against wraiths?

>>44025640
I generally use shuriken but it doesn't do much. A big problem with the wraiths is while I am focused on them, the rest of his army is moving up the board and ripping me a new asshole.

The best I have done to him is with warp spiders. They killed three in one volley once. But then they couldn't get away far enough and he charged them and destroyed them. Lances, missile launchers, shuriken weaponry, psychic stuff (though that generally does fuck all, which is why he takes them).

I'll take whatever suggestions. Also, tomb blades tear me a new one but that's a different argument.

>> No.44025776

>>44025688
Chapter Master makes Dwarf Fortress look easy and logical.

Fucking Orks, man.

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>>44025735
Well there's only one answer then

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>> No.44025806

>>44025735
>Fire Prisms suck
>Fire Dragons suck

The 1d4chan tactica goes over this repeatedly, despite them being decent units.

>> No.44025818

>>44025688
Ork fleets always baffled me.

Was there an error in the code that made their fleets that large? They could collapse entire sectors with the amount of battleships they could build.

>> No.44025824

>>44025798
>An ambush. We are finished!
What a fucking chump

>> No.44025830

>>44025798
You're about to kill Thule, y'know.

>> No.44025839

>>44025806
Fire dragons are fucking incredible, they just suck against wraiths.

Fire prisms are rather lacklustre, I prefer to rely on my massed lanced on my war walkers and skimmers.

That's what I meant.

>> No.44025867
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>>44025776
I once got declared as a renegade for insulting a Chaos Lord. The Inquisition hates you for insulting heretics everybody! Don't hurt heretics' feelings everyone, just kill them! Nids weren't so bad in Chapter Master.
>>44025818
This?
>>44025824
He's being sarcastic.

>> No.44025878

>>44025839
Okay, sorry based anon.

>> No.44025887

>>44025878
S'coo.

>> No.44025894
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>>44025830
I know. It hurts.
>>44025867
There is more to this.

>> No.44025896

>>44025806
Decent units that are expensive and objectively worse at doing things than other things in their very own codex.

Eldar is a codex good enough that their meh to decent units, which would see play in any other army book, wind up being crap.

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>>44025894
Cadia's got nothing on this. You want balls of steel? Get out of here, plebs. These balls are beyond mortal comprehension.

>> No.44025950

>>44025894
Oh, holy shit.

>>44025896
Comparative crap. Few and far between are the things that can match thirty SLJBs flying at you.

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>>44025928
The Inquisition also tried to inspect this guy's world during this.
>>44025950
It gets worse.

>> No.44025986

>>44025928
9,157 poor doomed bastards. May the Emperor have mercy on their souls.

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>>44025969
I think every Ork in the galaxy is in this sector. Mortarion's homeworld is an amusement park.

>> No.44026017

>>44025928
>Defence force: 0

They are beyond mortal comprehension because they aren't there?

>>44025896
How are Fire Dragons bad? I had a squad of mine charged by a dreadnought, landed one hit in overwatch and exploded it.

Any vehicle that comes close to them gets annihilated.

>> No.44026029

>>44025999
oh dear

>> No.44026038

>>44024734
>The model gains the Jink special rule,
and when Thrusting or Swooping
gains a 4+ Cover save as if it had
moved Flat Out.
Is this something from 6e?

>> No.44026050
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>>44025986
The Emperor is probably reluctantly watching.
>>44026017
The population.
>>44025999
Behold the power of Gork and Mork.
>>44026029
CUBES!

>> No.44026074

>>44024076
That was about it, you'd sometime use the 5th doctrine to open up a closed off support unit like Special Weapon squads for deep striking demo charges.

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>>44026050
A force that can take care of Hive Fleet Leviathan.

>> No.44026091

>>44026038
Yeah probably

>> No.44026095

Did Raven Guard use the different colored trims on their shoulder pads to represent the different squad types during the Horus Heresy or did that happen later?

>> No.44026121

>>44026082
RIP glorious space marines

>> No.44026132
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>>44026082
Please note that this guy knew he was going to die, and decided to suicide by Ork.
>>44026121
They died for their homeworld.

>> No.44026144

So with my second Hel Drake up and running my Gorepack is doing much better however I still have 350 points to go.

Here is what I am working with now:

CAD:

Juggerlord - The Axe of Ruin, Melta Bombs, Combi-Plasma

Two troops of shitty 8 man cultists I don't care about.

2 Hades Autocannon Hel Drakes and a Forgefiend with 2 Hades Autocannon

In my gorepack I run 3 Plasma and 2x3 melta bikers with a unit of 5 and 10 Flesh Hounds.

What are some good additions I should look into. I was thinking more bikes, they do hit well but I want more long range attacks.

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>>44026132

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>>44026163

>> No.44026211

>>44026144
this is at 1500 btw

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>>44026163
What can you even say to this

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>>44026163
>Mfw

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>>44026163
.

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>>44026206
In older versions Tyranids were the worst thing in the game. Hive Fleets were basically the rock that the GM uses to end you. They made you prepare for a last stand. Duke may have made them rare or removed completely from the game. Tyranids would still pop out of nowhere sometimes. One dead world got Nids for no reason.
>>44026255
Gork and Mork don't play around.
>>44026260
>>44026328
There was no luck or dreams to be had. He did brought that on himself. If you ignore Orks that would happen. In a Blood Angel playthrough half of my sector was Ork controlled and made me rage quit.

>> No.44026413

>>44023123
That's what I'm doing.

I got a nice offer to buy the Calth set and two tac sqads for the equivalent of $300 (third world and shit).

With some work and creativity that will net me
4 tac squads
1 sternguard squad
1 chaplain
1 commander
1 terminator squad
1 dreadnought

As far as my calculation goes, that's an easy 1200 points army, if only a bit unoptimized.

If I can get ahold of some chinaman bitz I'm gonna concert some to assault.

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>>44021836
Why is melee swarm nids bad?

If you were a good enough player to get them across the table and overcome the footslogging melee disadvantage, would it work them?

I know what I'm asking sounds wishy washy, but surely if you send enough shit at the enemy they can't react to it all.

Can the tyranids actually do well once in melee?

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>> No.44026512

>>44026494
Is that sarcasm again? It sounds like sarcasm

>> No.44026580

>>44026482
No, gaunts are worse than boyz and orkz arent in a good place

Carnifexes can melee because they can survive the deepstrike and fuck any vehicle on the charge

Mawlocs can do their thing.

Thats about it

>> No.44026598

Reposting this cause the other thread is dead.

I spend so much time worrying about justifying any small purchase when yesterday and tonight I spent 20 euros on food and booze, things that I'm literally going to shit out and have nothing to show for.

So I'm wondering maybe I should just treat myself. Was gonna spend about 90-100 euros on models after earning a bit of money from a short 2-week job I just got paid for that I had a LOT of stress over.

A ghostkeel (been wanting one since it came out. Already got a pose in mind and it'd be a joy to paint).
A Stealthsuit squad (I could use one to complete the Stealth formation but I would first use the parts to try and make moulds. If I manage, then I can cast as many as I please)
A pathfinder box (yay for scouts and snipers)
An ebay purchase of 3 Rail Rifle pathfinders (yay for extra MSU rail snipers, LOVE the aesthetic)

How do I stop worrying about my future and live in or enjoy the moment?

Please note: the last hobby anything I bought was 2011 and I don't field cheesy Tau (I won't even use the stealth cadre ability, just want to free up CAD slots).

Help a neurotic mess out.

>> No.44026633
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>>44026512
He didn't sound sarcastic that time.

>> No.44026641

>>44026598
>How do I stop worrying about my future and live in or enjoy the moment?
By being irresponsible but that's generally a bad idea.

>> No.44026731

>>44026598
I don't think /tg/ is a great place to ask for life advice.

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So how long have plastic Enginseers been a thing, /tg/?

>> No.44026754

>>44026641
Yeah, I don't tend to do that. My last 2 big purchases were to spend about 100~ euros on innoculating and feeding this really friendly stray cat that now lives at a newsagent near my home. It's run by a family friend and everybody loves the little bastard, I often go down in the mornings to give him a cuddle. The second is to visit a dear friend in another country and spending some time with them.

But I have no solid income, I do a few well-paying but rare jobs throughout the year and live fairly humbly.

>> No.44026761
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>> No.44026777

>>44026144
The Cultists are great for stuff like going to ground on an objective, or assaulting a shooty unit. I like when a 200 point unit wastes a turn or two trying to dislodge some Cultists from an objective. Let them cause a lucky wound, save, or pass leadership? They have made plays for me that won the game.

Id consider adding some Spawn, another squad of Cultists or Khorne Dogs, more bikes maybe with assault kits. Def Spawn though.

Can you use allies? CSM for a Sorcerer and some Obliterators might not hurt. A Sorcerer with invisible bikes or Spawn can be pretty nasty.

>> No.44026780

>>44026731
On the contrary, I've spent many years on /tg/ and you're some of the most down-to-earth lads I've known.

there's a bunch of cunts, sure, but it's 4chan still. Besides this is also 40k/hobby advice.

>> No.44026797

>>44026754
>on innoculating and feeding this really friendly stray cat
Don't do this.
Get a steady job, I guess that's the only advice I can think of.

>> No.44026808

>>44026598
I'm personally of the mind that you should always treat yourself to something, anything at all not just minis or hobby stuff, at least once a year. Gotta be nice to yourself after all.

>> No.44026826

>>44026751
like, 1 or 2 weeks?

>> No.44026846

>>44026751
>see this skull?
>It's going up your ass

>> No.44026918

>>44026826
Huh. Guess I haven't been paying attention.
That bundle is shit though, $52 in addition to the base Leman Russ for the Enginseer and a shitty antenna.

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>>44026598
just do it, ya shouldn't be feeling too guilty over buying some models to treat yourself with.

unless you're spending like a small fortune on them without painting or playing with them then you should feel ashamed of yourself

>> No.44027040

>>44026970
Oh no, I will have a blast posing and painting everything. Take my time on getting them extra sweet, bases and everything. Less for gaming though, I admit (because my 40k meta is almost non-existent)

>>44026808
I mean I DO go out to eat and go to the gym as well, but as a rule I tend to overthink any purchase past 20 euros just because I don't like spending my money on things I don't really want.

>>44026797
I'm working on it but.. I wanted to. I don't do it to every stray but this one was special.

>> No.44027067
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>> No.44027082

>>44026797
On the one hand, you're right, but on the other hand, he gave a cute kitteh a home, which is hardly to be discouraged.

>> No.44027104

>>44027067
We're sorry, Davian! We know you'll be in DOW3, right?

...Right?

>> No.44027118

>>44027067
Killing Davian Cool should be illegal.

Should arrest those Chaos Space Marines for that.

Need more cops on the streets. Shits getting out of hand.

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>> No.44027129

>>44027067
>>44027104
Hes also a legendary unit in the heralds of ruin killteam

>> No.44027152

>>44027104
I pray so.
>>44027118
There are no conventional cops to deal with these beasts. They get what they deserve eventually.
>>44027129
Say what now?

>> No.44027166

>>44027125
obviously you haven't, Thule, if he's still alive.

>> No.44027176

>>44027129
Oh brilliant just what I was looking for!

Is that Killteam any good? How different is it from regular kill team? What is Davian Cool like in it?

>> No.44027198

>>44027166
Thule killed him twice before then.

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>>44027152
You don't need just any cop. You need THE cop.

>> No.44027303

>>44027258
He looks qualified.

>> No.44027310

>>44027152
>>44027176
I havent played original killteam so i cant truly say, Its just 40k taken to a very small scale with a lot of importance on what soldiers would actually deal with(climbing, injury, being on fire, etc) My favorite bit is not having to roll a d6 for run distance

Seing has the most armored things you can bring in killteam are metal boxes having a dreadnaught means a fucking lot, that being said hes got injury rules to represent his damages

>> No.44027356

>>44027310
What are dread rules like?

>> No.44027405

>>44027356
Same as base game just with a different injury table, Its just armor pen in kill team is generally plasma or rockets so hes a monster(and has hatred chaos, tyranids and daemons). I think the only str 10 to be found is the tyranids zoanthrope

>> No.44027441

>>44027356
Vehicles in Killteam tend to be a lot stronger, since Heavy weapons are harder to come by. The heaviest stuff you'll find is probably strength 7, and even that's gonna be small numbers.

>> No.44027451
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This would just be easier

>> No.44027692

>>44027451
He's... disappointingly bad by 40k standards.

>> No.44027717

>>44027692
By Killteam standards he looks baller.

>> No.44027857

>>44027258
Nah he's too busy with Hitler.

>> No.44027882

>>44027692
In kill team a tactical marine is a god of death

>> No.44027935

>>44027882
How are Eldar?

I ask as an Eldar player. Mainly for my Aspect Warriors.

>> No.44028019

>>44027935
Not a clue. The people i play with all hate eldar for obvious reasons.

>> No.44028049
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Eveniong all

Anyone else looking for forward to Battlefleet Gothic . As 40k fans, what do you think good bad or ugly

>> No.44028064

>>44028019
Oh.

Um.

Daemons?

And if not them then what have you played against and what can you tell us about them?

>> No.44028092
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Oh, what's that Eliphas? Thought you could gloat and forget about being the geneson of the worst primarch? Nah. Abby's going to rustle ya.

>> No.44028158

>>44027935
Eldar are quite fast and mobile thanks to their normal benefits and high initiative. They can even take jetbikes in limited numbers. Their shooting is above average, but it's really durability where they're let down, as they can't take their heavier models in large numbers.

>> No.44028176

>>44028092
>Drach'nyen. Special ability. For each unsaved wound the target model must take a leadership test. If the test is failed, the target's jimmies are rustled.

>> No.44028209

>>44028158
Oh sweet, thanks man!

How do aspect warriors hold up specifically? If you haven't played them it's fine.

>> No.44028248

>>44028176
I like to imagine the daemon being hateful, spiteful, and ill mannered by daemon standards so that could probably fit with that description. Now to other matters. This can't be Davian's corpse right?

>> No.44028256

>>44028064
Daemons arent particularly hot. Their leaders are trash and assault is worse in killteam than in the base game.

Lots of cover for shrouded and your opponent will only get d3 dice to attempt to deny the witch with.

On the upside you can pick and choose powers in killteam

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>>44028248
Whoops.

>> No.44028286

>>44028209
It depends on the specific ones, and I haven't played with all of them. Generally though, you won't have too many in your force anyway, so don't worry about it too much.

>> No.44028299

>>44028256
Oh...

Well... at least I can... use my heralds of Tzeentch?

>>44028286
Thanks for the help bro.

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>>44028049
>mfw my friends think the Star Wars universe have superior spacecraft

>> No.44028453
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I wonder if this will show up in the Black Legion series.

>> No.44028532
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>> No.44028570

>>44024438
Tell me this is from someone's army blog, reverse image search just links to /tg/.

>> No.44028620

>>44028049
This one carries onward well from that.

The Gloriana was fucking huge.

>> No.44028652

>>44028532
Nah, Ordinatus Mars is the big dubstep gun. Armageddon was the "shoots Valkyrie-sized shells at a significant fraction of c" gun.

>> No.44028724

>>44022601
To cut them off the sprue clean use some clippers, then use a knife, dragging the blade not in your direction.

Look up Forgeworld videos on how to work with resin to learn how to clean a model, and the Warhammer TV channel with Saint Duncan (praise be his name!) to learn how to paint. The dark vengeance vids are what you need.

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>>44028652
Still an Ordinatus.

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>>44026163

>> No.44028782

>>44028570
Nah, tg's wip thread indeed, I saw it myself.

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>>44027258
You called?

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>>44028859
WHICH CAN SCOWL HARDER

>> No.44028998
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Or how they can't smell the Plague Marine is also beyond me. Eliphas can leg it for a guy in terminator armor.

>> No.44029031

>>44028998
I had always wondered how Diomedes hadn't fucked that one up with his incessant bellowing.

>> No.44029039
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>>44028961
NONE GRUMPYER

>> No.44029045

>>44029031
The generator must be louder than he is.

>> No.44029069
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>Checking ebay for some deals
>Find some
>Always thought it impossible to get any good deals because of bidding snipers
>See latest sold models
>10 metal Tau pathfinders sniped by one guy 7 seconds before sold
>His history is full of miniatures
>See Riptide by same seller
>Sniped by the same guy 6 seconds before it sold
>Someone else counter-sniped him 4 seconds later, 2 seconds before bidding closed
>His history is even longer and also full of miniatures

Yeah, fuck that.

>> No.44029071

>>44028998
>snuck up on an giant terminator lord that can't stop shouting, a giant pile of rotting flesh in the shape of a man, a giant in power armour with a giant gun and one last giant power armoured man glowing a crackling with demonic power.

Perfect time to post this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdJg6Duzzf4

>> No.44029076

>>44029031
>>44029045
Everyone knows what was covering his shouts.

IT IS THE BANEBLAAAAADE

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>>44029039
Note that the size of the pauldrons are in direct relation to the massiveness of the codpiece.

>> No.44029447

>>44029071
What's worse is the Nid campaign. How do you not see the dinosaur bug that's taller than a dreadnought? The Eldar campaign is less stupid but given how the smug the Eldar are or how much they love the D I'm questioning those cultists. The Orks at least blend in with the surroundings being green.

>> No.44029520

>>44029447
>stealth
>40k
Pick Raven Guard

>> No.44029545

>>44029520
Spookums can't hide in lava but he's pretty sneaky.

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>> No.44029672

>>44029447
When Orks are trying to be sneaky the often pick camo patterns that are completely different to whatever they're hiding in, and no two Kommandos have the same colors of camoflauge lol

>> No.44029760

>>44029582

Dumb.

So very dumb.

If Spess Mreens are unrattled by drop pods and can bail out and fight right away, they can't be rough enough to mince regular people. Just leave them shaken up and vomiting.

>> No.44029793

>>44029760
Anon you cant assault out of drop pods, theyre not ready to fight

>> No.44029812
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>>44029672
You'z the stupid git. Da 'umies wont be lookin fer a klown

>> No.44029820

>>44029760
I believe in the fluff a female inquisitor went in a drop pod with the marines. I don't know if she was in power armour, I assume she was.

She survived but was deemed "not combat worthy."

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>> No.44029856

>>44029760
Confirmed for anally ravaged elf player

>> No.44029885

>>44029793

You can't assault from reserves.

You can however bail right out your drop pod and start gunning right away.

>> No.44029917

>>44029885
Can a scouted unit assault on turn 1?

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>>44029760
Flat-chested whore.

>> No.44029932

>>44029917
No.

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>>44029812

>> No.44029977

>>44029760
Flat chested whore detected

>> No.44029998

>>44029917
no

though there's a few units that can assault from deepstike/reserves so maybe we'll get a unit that can assault from infiltrate or scout or outflank soon. my bet is on a flesh hound formation that does this in the next chaos daemon update within the next 3-7 years or so

>> No.44030017

>>44029760
Go away flat chested whore.

>> No.44030042

>>44029812
>gettin' spotted
>nut bein' purple, da sneakiest kulur

I'z bet you'z a runty git that done got kikked outta da Kommandoz.

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We can totally kill the innocent civilians while we're saving them right?
>>44029760
We need more jello.
>>44029856
They're so easy to find.

>> No.44030071
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>>44029812

>> No.44030082

>>44030050
So so tsundere.

"S- stupid cesspool! I-it's not as if I WANT to save you or anything! Baka!"

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>>44030082
Kek. I regret using production overwatch.

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>> No.44030475

So, /tg/, what is a more reasonable cost for the Wraithknight? 500 points?

>> No.44030536

>>44030475
>450
>standard is suncannons
>upgrade to wraithcannons at 25 points

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So, /tg/, what is a more reasonable cost for the Stompa? 200 points?

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>>44030689
300 points.

>> No.44030863

>>44030689

Stompa should be 265, the naughts should be an even 200, Killa Kans should be 45 and fast attack.

>> No.44030951

>>44030689
Stompa 250, gork/morkanaughts 200 even with better access to weapons, and some new trukk/metal box variety that isnt made of explosion-ey death

>> No.44031000

>>44030475
395/ 400

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>> No.44031141

>>44031097
This one was always obnoxious, just for how long it takes if you don't have Cyrus and his demo charges.

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>>44031141
Demo charges are a mid campaign reward though.

>> No.44031335

>>44031281
You can get them, or something like them, as a random drop IIRC. It's been a long time since I've played Retribution, though, so take it with some suspicion.

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>>44031335
Good to know.

>> No.44031544

So, /tg/, how much should Chosen cost?

>> No.44031566

>>44026482
I don't understand this. For the last 10 or so games Ive run melee nids exclusively.

Hormagaunts aren't used for cc. They're used for mobile cover screens, eating overwatch, and tying up melee units you can't get to yet.

Carnifex are great.

Mawlocs are amazing for their cost. Hit & run is formidable on a 6w mc.

Shrikes with rending claws can shred almost anything, and with lashwhip bonesword can tear through ANYTHING with a 3+ save.

I seriously have no clue why people are having a rough time with them. I've played everything except for harlequins, admech, and other nids.

>> No.44031646

>>44031566
Because people are bad, basically.

There are in fact good Nid players, an elite brotherhood to which you appear to have joined. I know, because my Admech regularly gets beaten by one.

>> No.44031773

>>44031566

If you aren't in a competetive meta it is fine.

My friends tyranid are great and do well I would rank him 3rd out of the seven armies in our playgroup...

Though Eldar Wraithhost is coming from our most recent edition and we are all a bit worried.

>> No.44031941

>>44031773
Wraithhost isn't as scary as it appears. Strike hard and strike fast, get them into CC, and murder those ghost dildos.

>> No.44031974

>>44031941
>assaulting scytheguard

>> No.44032007

>>44031974
Well, shoot the ones with the CC weapons, obviously. But those D-guns are not nearly as terrifying as they look.

>> No.44032033

>>44032007
D-flamers

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>> No.44032103

>>44032007
D-scythes are Strength D flame templates, genius. Assaulting them will see your squad dead to Overwatch before they even attack.

>> No.44032108

>>44032033
Yeah, those. Charge them.

I'm not even kidding, a massed charge will get through and stab them to death.

>> No.44032203

>>44032108
kek

>> No.44032220

>>44031941

Well it is the players first army, he was talking about eldar but he just dove head first and bought the bare minimum for Wraithhost and will br bringing that at 1000 pts until our groups cap at 1850.

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>>44032033
>Play Orks
>There are such a thing as Str D flamers
>mfw

>>44032108
Try charging regular flamers/heavy flamers with Orks, then come back and tell me to charge Str D flamers....

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>> No.44032609

>>44032420
Ah, yes, the obnoxious jihadi knockdown map.

>> No.44032675

>>44025412
The weapons that wound against initiave, wraiths are only I2.

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>>44032609
Surprisingly I've only used the doomblast ability once.

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Malal/Malice lives.

>> No.44033581

>>44033362
A shit ton of cover-camping heavy weapons teams.

>> No.44033652

>>44033581
Thankfully I got the expendable item that upgrades Bloodletters. Dawn of War Anon heading in towards his bed now. Night, /tg/.

>> No.44033820

A friend of mine is building an Imperial Fist army and I am unfamiliar with their (and most chaapters) tactics... Are they the melee ones?

>> No.44033990

>>44033820
They're vanilla as fuck. They get rerolls on shooting bolters.

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>>44033990

....Oy vey, and here I was worried. Should be a good game for my Orks then

>> No.44034405

>>44028092
>worst Primach
>Not Leman "Wolfwolf" Russ
>Not Mortarian
>Not Grandpappy Smurf
>Not Lion "I'm going to be indecisive in the Heresy" El'Johnson

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>>44034405
>Muh Lion is a closet traitor meme

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>>44034405

>>Not Lion "I'm going to be indecisive in the Heresy" El'Johnson

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>>44034532
>>44034571

All these closet chaos.

>> No.44034647

>>44034571
>>44034532
Join us in the embrace of Chaos Undivided.

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>>44034598
Sounds like you're trying to sow the seeds of doubt amongst the loyal gathered here today. Do you have something you're hiding there yourself?

>> No.44034714

>>44034672
>doubt
>Dark Angels
>not chaos
>not terrible marines beside
>capable of finishing a fight without abandoning allies to die because "muh fallen"
>ever actually finding all the fallen

>> No.44034939

>>44034598
>>44034571
>>44034532


>tfw a Dark Angel player comes into the LGS and demands honorable combat against my Space Wolves
>Logan kills Sammael
>jokingly say "Another heretic bites the dust"
>DefensiveDarkAngel.jpg

>> No.44035071

>>44034939

Is Logan ever even worth taking? Why not take another couple TWC...

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>>44034714
Where are the proofs that the black templar fleet was destroyed by dark angels???
No proofs?

>> No.44035109

>>44029917

A unit inside a transport that has Scout can however. Though the only way to do this that I know of is the Blitz Brigade Formation which specifically disallows charging on the first turn (which means player turn). So if you take it and go second, you can charge on your first turn.

>> No.44035115

>>44035080
Nobody said anything about Black Templars. Please, tell us more.

>> No.44035150

>>44030863
>>44030951

>Orkanauts 200

They should stay the same and just be Super-Heavies. 200 is too much for how craptacular they are right now if you leave them as normal vehicles. 150 would be a fair price for them as they are. Literally the only armies that have difficulty against them are Tyranids and other Orks.

Stompa should honestly be around the same as a Knight. It trades the 4++ save and I4 D weapon for more hull points and low initiative.

>> No.44035183

>>44035115
fug :----DD

>> No.44035184

>>44035115
iirc there was a templar crusade that captured a fallen or cypher, they didn't pop up again after the dark angels got wind of that

>>44035071
logan is pretty hardy and has a nice chariot

>>44034672
did that picture actually happen? what does abby think about draigo messing up his hell-space?

>> No.44035231

>>44035071

He is a fun centerpiece. I run a TWC Deathstar with my Wolf Lord so he fits right in. The Dark Angel player was bringing Sammael so I thought for fluffs sake I would bring a named character.

Acute Senses, And They Shall Know No Fear, Counter-attack, Eternal Warrior, Stubborn, Warlord Trait: Saga of Majesty (which lets rerolls on morale and pinning withing 12")

Storm Rider is A12 all around but open top so eh

>> No.44035341

>>44034405
None of those guys are even close to being contenders for worst.

They're up against Lorgar, Magnus, Perturabo, Fulgrim, Angron, Night Haunter and two who were somehow even worse failures than that lot.

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>>44035341
well at least now we know that the rubric can be reversed but not thanks to magnus

>> No.44035483

>>44035150
I wish they'd bring back all the other stompas. I miss the klawstompa, Da eye in da sky, and the Rock'n'Rolla. Also the kustom stompas too.

I am hoping for 2 things from FW for the update to dreadmob, 1: Mega/meka-dreads going to 4 HP (so we can have a walker of each hull point from 2-5), and extra custom stuff for the 'nauts, like a close combat one, or a double shooty one, or some good mek gubbins to replace the KMK arm or something.

>> No.44036045

>>44032416
And units can fire overwatch only once. I guess this melee nid player charges first with some expendable unit like hormagaunts. Either they fire the overwatch on them and kills all that glorious sub-100 points and gets charged by nastier things or they don't fire the overwatch on them and get stuck in melee and still get charged by nastier things.

>> No.44036138

>>44036045
>Best strategy for Assault armies is to kill an entire unit to get another unit into combat

god I miss 5th

>> No.44036406

>>44036138
>Shooting army trades melta-suicide squad for some key target
Fucking shooting edition fuckshitfuck op as hell
>Melee army trades almost free unit for key target
Oh man this is the state of the game! I really miss the times where I could mindlessly just push all my dudes up 6-12'' per turn and still win when I reach in the assault.

40kids everyone

>> No.44036648

>>44036406
>mindlessly just push all my dudes up 6-12'' per turn
>waiting for enemy army to reach you takes more skill
wat

>> No.44036954

>>44023336
>high priced book
>$15

you're literally a poor fag

I can get bitching about models that cost as much as a video game (nevermind that video games are wothless trash and exist as the cheapest hobby to waste your fucking time with)

BUT A GODDAMN BOOK?
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

Go to wal-mart, go to barns and fucking noble, go literally to any store, and you will find books priced from ten to hundreds of dollars, and you think fifteen for a brand new book is too expensive?

Fuck
You

>> No.44036977

>>44036954

The hardcover copies of GW book are often more expensive than they really should be. The army books/codices/rule books are significantly worse.

But I'm assuming you're an American - because around these parts all the hard cover GW books are in the $40 - $55 range.

>> No.44036993

So I think it's finally time to start a cadian army but I have no clue where to start.
You think that the Cadian defence Force for 135€ is a good army to start? Or I should stick to making my own army?

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>>44036977
>complaining about prices because you live in a third world country

Yeah and how much do you pay for a dozen beers?

>> No.44036998

>>44036954
Christ man, some people just don't see the point in paying the extra expense that comes with hardbacks. Is that really such a problem?

>> No.44037012

>>44036993
Seems like a good starting point, yeah. Everything inside it is something you'll use. Maybe check out 3rd party retailers in Europe first though, they usually knock about 20% off the price.

>> No.44037026

>>44037012
>3rd party retailers
sorry, what do you mean? so far I've always brought in GW shops

>> No.44037035

>>44036997

About $30.

A new vidya game is usually in the $100 - $140 range depending on console/title.

And damn near everything from GW costs out the ass compared to other continents.

>> No.44037049

>>44037035
A dozen good beers here is $15

You pay double the price for everything

You can move, or accept that you have to pay more to live in a country where there isn't a mass shooting every day.

I don't even live in america, I just like to rustle jimmies

>> No.44037055

>>44037026
There's a few in the UK with varying degrees of quality, element games, wayland games, the outpost, etc. They stock brand new GW products but undercut them by around 10-20%. After postage you would be paying around the same though, which is why it might be worth checking out if there's any that exist in your country.

>> No.44037064

>>44037055
ain't that something. I didn't know they existed for this kind of merchandise too. Thanks for the advice anon, I'll check it out

>> No.44037065

>>44036998
Ignore him, sensible people know what's up.

>Waah waah poorfag lmao
Go fuck yourself, seriously. It's no surprise GW overcharges for everything and hardbacks are pretty much intended for hardcore collectors/fans of the respective armies, even the hardback BL books.

Besides, unless you're a slob who mistreats their precious reading material like a degenerate, paperbacks will last you literally centuries. Your descendants playing 400th edition will be reading the rules wondering how fluffy the game was back in 7th back when they didn't have planet destroyer pistols laying down 5'x5' templates of S: "Smash the opponent's models with a claw hammer"

>> No.44037119

>>44037049

I'm happy to pay a little extra. But it shits me that GW charge extra to sell gear in Australia because they know we'll fucking pay it.

There's an e-mail out there that explains how they factor in an additional percentage for the Australian market based on how much it would cost us to purchase their goods from another country and get it shipped over.

So we get the base price (taking into account exchange rate), an additional surcharge for getting the goods over here, and then another charge on top of that to make sure that it wouldn't only be a liiiittle bit more expensive to purchase from, say, Britain or America and get it shipped over.

This is why I feel no guilt pirating EVERYTHING they release.

>> No.44037168

>>44037119
Is it something to do with Australia's laws that things are so expensive? Or is it because of exchange rates and the economy dictating that the Australian Dollar is weak as fuck? Is an Aussie Dollar worth like 10 British pence or a dime or what?

And does this affect EVERYTHING or just niche items like warhams and naughty things like alcohol? Do you pay like 20 dollars for a Happy Meal?

>> No.44037198

>>44037168

Happy meal is usually around $5.

The Aussie dollar is comparatively strong for an economy our size. Like, it's not amazing, but it shouldn't be as decent as it is.

The big hiccup is that it's expensive as fuck to ship things here. And companies know this. As a result, they can up the prices to factor this expense in. As long as it's cheaper to buy here than to ship it in, we'll buy here.

>> No.44037220

>>44037198
But why is it a pain in the ass to ship to Australia? It's not like you lack the infrastructure, you're a developed country not fucking Somalia.

>In Europe
>Buy from America
>Pay 5-10 dollars shipping for a plane to cross the ocean/literally half the planet

And you're telling me it's somehow different for Australia for no reason? Has to be laws. Shipping from Japan should be cheaper since it's much closer.

>> No.44037240

>>44037220

No idea why.

I know it's not everywhere. Shipping from/too China is cheap as chips.

Fuck, I recently found out that with my telephone plan it's actually technically cheaper to CALL CHINA than it is to call my mates on the other side of the city.

>> No.44037300

>>44037240
goddamn, man I'm sorry to hear that. I see GW aussie prices and I feel bad about worrying about a 35 euro box of minis, imagine if I had to pay double that minimum. Has to do with some shipping laws or some shite. Are prices different from America and Britain?

Just don't get it. Say you lived in Slovenia and ordered something from California. That's crossing America, the ocean and most of the EU and it still wouldn't be that expensive. That's roughly the same eyeballed distance from Slovenia to Australia and I bet it's jacked up in price.

Largest shipping I had to pay for was 16 euros from America and I live in Malta, so that's bloody ridiculous.

>> No.44037324

>>44037300
>Largest shipping I had to pay for was 16 euros

Fucking hell I'm crying.

I had to pay $125 when I got my copy of Kingdom Death shipped from the states.

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>>44037324
Fuck, bruh... I heard of things like priceUSA that ship at local rates, might be good for you? I'm sorry.

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>>44037240
Because Australia is really that far away. Pic related some map tool and quick excell chart

>> No.44037400

>>44037360
Fuck, got Madrid-NY/LA mixed. Distances should be swapped.

>> No.44037409

>>44037240
Shipping FROM China is expensive as crap (on an industrial level) since that the market and the ships going there are full. Every year they put out bigger and bigger container ships just to handle the China output and every year they're not enough.
Shipping TO China is however cheap as hell since that the containers going there are 90% empty and the rest is food so there's plenty of room for cargo.
I think the problem is in the fees for importation and the fact that they have to haul shit from Britain.

>> No.44037521

>>44037409

I only every shop FROM China, and it's always been cheap as chips. Last order I made was for some wedding invites, and the overseas shipping was $5 to get it from China.

>> No.44038007

>>44026050
>>44025999
>>44026082
>>44026132
>>44026163
What game is this?

>> No.44038053

>>44038007
Chapter Master. It's a homegrown game that was killed through one of two stories (or both), either way Duke, the man you should always bet on, was worried about getting a C&D so canned the game. AFAIK he's now working on something along the lines of "space combat game" which will allow you to mod parts of the game with ease. You know where that's going.

>> No.44038132

>>44034598
>>44034647
Heresy and more heresy.

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>>44038132
i got your heresy right here; someone is selling a golden demon trophy on ebay. i would love to win one but this feels wrong

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>>44039289

Would be funny to have one next amongst a shelf of tabletop quality painted models and have people which one won you the trophy

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