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>What is Android: Netrunner?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAslVfZ9p-Y

>Android Netrunner Official FFG News & Spoilers:
http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_news.asp?etyn=1&ecan=197&epn=0
http://boardgamegeek.com/blogpost/24049/netrunner-spoilers

>Official FAQ, Compendium on rulings, and common mistakes
http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffg_content/android-netrunner/support/FAQ/Android-Netrunner%20FAQ.pdf
http://ancur.wikia.com/wiki/Project_ANCUR_Wiki
https://www.reddit.com/r/Netrunner/comments/2f8qj8/netrunner_beginner_faq/
https://www.reddit.com/r/postalelf/comments/2sm1d2/welcome_to_netrunner/

>Netrunner Card List and Data Pack Details:
http://netrunnerdb.com/
http://onosendaicorp.com
http://acoo.net
http://www.cardgamedb.com/index.php/netrunner/android-netrunner-card-spoilers
http://boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/147101/android-netrunner-lcg-setlists/

>Deckbuilding Resources:
http://netrunnerdb.com/
http://netrunner.meteor.com/
http://www.cardgamedb.com/index.php/netrunner/android-netrunner-deck-builder
http://www.littlechiba.com
http://acoo.net

>Articles and Blogs:
http://www.strangeassembly.com/tag/netrunner
http://netrunner-math.blogspot.ca/
http://teamcovenant.com/blog/category/netrunner-lcg/
http://stimhack.com/
http://www.cardgamedb.com/index.php/index.html/_/android-netrunner

>Podcasts/Videocasts:
http://boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/157566/android-netrunner-podcasts-metalist
https://www.youtube.com/user/ANRBadPublicity?feature=watch

Try "Why I run", great for prospective Runners looking for a hands-on demo on how Running works (replace the spaces by dots):
www nagnazul com/whyirun/whyirun.html

Because Fuck You Keegan, that's why.

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>HERE COMES THE JAAAAAAAANUUUUUUUUUUS

>> No.42316927

>>42316876
I jack out.

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>>42316927
Excellent

>> No.42317346

>>42317167
bastard.

>> No.42317984

Back to Worlds Plaza. So I was thinking, the Runner will never access the assets hosted on it if the combined trash cost is higher than the Plaza, which it almost always will be. So, what if we put a couple of seemingly low-value assets on it? Student Loans and Private Contracts. Would you go and trash that if it's defended by two ice? DBS and Elizabeth Mills. Things that don't have 'direct' impact but are actually active hindrances to the Runner, but not blatant enough to make Worlds Plaza that high a priority target.

Of course, my favourite combo would be IT Dept, Blacklist and Adonis out of Blue Sun so eh.

>> No.42318116

>>42317984
And making you rez 2 ICE so I can trash 3 assets with a single run?
I'll do it.

>> No.42318153

>>42317984
if I can trash two assets in one click, I don't care how shitty they are.

>> No.42318424

>>42317984

I really like the idea of the World Plaza Executive Suite. If only because if the runner chooses to trash the World Plaza, then no Executive agenda points. And trashing ALL executives in the same turn, while not impossible is going to be costly... and if you're doing things right the runner should have a hard time getting that kind of cash.

Really mad Recruiting Trip only works for sysops now. Can you imagine ?

Anyway, totally want to play that deck.

>> No.42318496

>>42318424
Imp 1, pay to trash another, that's 4 points.

>> No.42318498

>>42318424
Recruiting Trip only works for sysops but Tech Start Up works for any asset.

>> No.42318586

>>42318496

You don't say. Why not go full Singularity while we're at it ?

>>42318498

Well, yeah, but not as fun. Just the image of all those Executives being gathered at once, given the tour and then installed in the plaza.... appeals to me.

>> No.42318634

>>42318586
Singularity is trashing without accessing, so you wouldn't get the points. My point is that it probably wouldn't be all that costly to trash with Anarch so hot right now.

>> No.42318724

>>42318634

And mine I guess that there is always going to be a counter or another. If I let that get in the way of playing a jank deck, when will I ever play one ?

>> No.42318814

>>42318116
>>42318153
Oh come on, I'm trying to convince myself to play Worlds Plaza, stop bringing me back to reality.

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>>42318814
Honestly, it doesn't appeal to me so much, but the discount might be nice if you think of the hosting as a drawback instead of a bonus.
It's also not a Region, so you can host it on Oaktown Grid.

>> No.42319103

>>42318908

Wait, what ? An insanely risky strategy that has you put all your (Fabergé) eggs in one fragile basket that has to be protected at (great) all cost doesn't appeal to you ?

You have no heart.

I bet you use one those cyber mechanical pumps instead, puh...

>> No.42320333

>smug Blue Sun player tries to bait with a NAPD behind a Hadrian's Wall against Quetzal
>he hard rezzes down to a few credits, thinking he'll pull it back
>let it end the run
>next click play knifed on it
>dude has no other ice rezzed to pull back for his midseasons

I shiggy diggy.

>> No.42321076

How do I squeeze Atman back into this?

Failing that, how do I deal with strength 4 sentries when I can't get into central servers to power up Datasucker, and/or Datasucker has been purged? D4V1D obviously deals with anything 5 or above and I can just trash and clone as needed, but what do I do against that elusive strength 4 if I can't make Datasucker work?

>> No.42321098

>>42321076

Forgot my fucking list

Total Cards: (45)

Identity:
1x Kate "Mac" McCaffrey: Digital Tinker (Core)


Event: (19)
3x Diesel (Core)
3x Dirty Laundry (Creation and Control)
1x Legwork (Honor and Profit) ■■
1x Levy AR Lab Access (Creation and Control)
2x Lucky Find (Double Time) ■■ ■■
1x Quality Time (Humanity's Shadow)
1x Stimhack (Core) ■
3x Sure Gamble (Core)
1x Test Run (Cyber Exodus)
3x The Maker's Eye (Core)

Hardware: (9)
2x Astrolabe (Up and Over)
3x Clone Chip (Creation and Control)
1x Plascrete Carapace (What Lies Ahead)
3x Prepaid VoicePAD (Second Thoughts)

Program: (11)
2x Cerberus “Lady” H1 (All That Remains)
1x D4v1d (The Spaces Between) ■■■■
1x Datasucker (Core) ■
1x Deus X (A Study in Static)
1x Gordian Blade (Core)
1x Mimic (Core) ■
1x Parasite (Core) ■■
3x Self-modifying Code (Creation and Control)

Resource: (6)
2x Film Critic (Old Hollywood)
2x Same Old Thing (Creation and Control)
2x Symmetrical Visage (The Valley)

>> No.42324513

>>42321098

Net ready eyes.

>> No.42324663

Are public agenda rezzed ?

>> No.42324680

>>42324663
Neither rezzed nor unrezzed. They are simply 'faceup'.

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>>42318586
>>42318424
3x Exective Boot Camp, have pic related as at least 1 of your agendas

Played in Titan you'd actually have a little influence left over (even if you get all 3), and you'd get 2 counters on Retreat

Executive Party at the Titan Suite!

>> No.42325550

How good RSVP would be in my "access my agendas multiple times without stealing them" Haarpsichord deck?

>> No.42325564

>>42325490
... Why? You'll just end up flooding your hand.

>>42325550
They'll just pay and break it. It works once, maybe twice.

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>>42325564
Because it's cool.
For an actual practical reason, combos maybe?

If you're doing it right you'd have 4 clicks in a turn, so there's possibilities there.

But mostly because it's cool

>> No.42325692

>>42325666
Click 1: Executive Retreat counter.
Click 2: Executive Retreat counter.
Click 3 & 4: Reuse.

\o/

>> No.42325976

Hi guys, grndl.net seems down, how do i into proxy cards ?

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>>42325976
Learn Photoshop

>> No.42326084

>>42326037
>implying i use dirty proprietary software
It's like using corp made programs.

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>>42326084
what is gimp

>> No.42327381

What Corp decks are you playing, tg? I find myself a bit dry on Corp decks that are actually fun. Butchershop and general NBN FA gets boring, Weyland's ice seems too fragile, Jinteki's alright and HB's plain solid. Any recommendations?

>> No.42327465

>>42327381
I currently have three decks i casually play with my friends. All are Weyland :

-A Titan Rush deck, relying on the Atlas Train, with or without Scorched Earth.

-An Argus Tag'n'Bag deck.

-And a Blue Sun Black Knight deck, relying on Grail ICEs and trashing programs.

>Weyland's ice seems too fragile
Weyland ICE isn't fragile, Weyland ICE is expensive, that's why I think Weyland Glacier will never be a Tier 1 deck, wether they use advanceable ICE or not.

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>>42327381
At the moment I'm playing a HB:CD with Ronins and overwriters.
Often I win by points though.

And then I have a Gagarin Grail ICE (with a focus on program trashing) with Blacklist to keep the runners out, and Tech start up with Contract Killer to punish mistakes.

On account of Grail ICE, runners keep installing faeries and other killers to avoid "the worst of it", but they never expect fracters and codegates to trash their programs. It's pretty great.

>> No.42330197

>>42327381
Cambridge PE is always fun. Right now I'm playing it and a Cybernetics Division Edge of World never-advance deck.

>> No.42330496

What is your bigest problems with the rotation ?
Mine is the fact that most of the top tier IDs will be trashed (Blue Sun, RP and NEH), leaving the only top tier ID HB:ETF, with no guarantee any upcoming ID wll be that good.

>> No.42330545

>>42330496
We are still 4 cycles before that happens. New IDs appear all the time.
That the oldest IDs (barring core) disappear is actually a good thing.

>> No.42330565

>>42330496
Aren't we still like forever away from rotation?

>> No.42330824

How much value could be achieved by taking already strong Icebreakers, and using a mix of Dinosaurus, Personal Touch, Net-ready-eyes, helpful AI, to rarely/never need to actually pay to buff strength.

Like, I have Morning Star/Mimic/Torch installed, and Net-ready eyes, so few ice can stand in my way.

>> No.42331313

>>42327381

Right now a relatively classic aggressive IG deck and a Titan one using Morph ICE and Willow-the-wisp - I kinda like it. Been fun to play anyway.

>> No.42331601

>>42330545
>>42330565
Actually it's closer than we might think. They said it will begin with the 8th cycle, which is planned to begin in early 2017. So we really are 3 cycles and 1.5 years away from it.

>> No.42331807

>>42331601
It's FFG we are talking about. I expect delays with every cycle, so the last cycle will be pushed Fall 2017.

>> No.42331935

>>42331807
So far they've been pretty consistent with their release dates, releasing each cycle on a periods of six month, with a Deluxe in between.

>> No.42331995

FFG hasn't even started working on the last cycle before rotation happens. We're a decent amount of time away from rotation.

>> No.42332374

>>42330824
Yes but by the time you can afford to have all that shit out the corp's got 5 points and a double-advanced card behind an Ash and like 30 credits.

>> No.42334180

>>42331601

Am I misremembering, or aren't the designers working two cycles in advance from us ?

>> No.42334830

So ran into an odd thing. Can you use Eaters first paid ability when there is no ice when running the archives to reveal all the cards while accessing none?

>> No.42334887

>>42334830

There is no subroutine to break, so no.

Too bad the no!more than 0 cards access doesn't trigger upon using the program, you might have had a leg to stand on.

>> No.42335107

>>42334887
But you can increase the strength of breakers when not encountering ice, and eater is so far unique in how it works, and most rulings lean into do as much as able. It is an odd thing overall.

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if you power shutdown something with a Trash effect (clone chip, bookmark, etc.) there's no window to fire that, right?

>> No.42335511

>>42335107
Still going with no, the access 0 cards is specifically written on the break subroutine ability. Someone might have actually considered your scenario in testing.

>> No.42335519

>>42335318
Correct. What's done is done.

>> No.42335770

>>42335107

Well, yes, you can raise STR, but cannot break a subroutine that doesn't exist. And since none were broken, well, the runner accesses cards normally.

>>42335318

If you look closely at the flowchart, you'll notice there is not interrupt apart from prevent effects.

For example, the runner runs HQ with Unregistered S&W '35. Both players now have a window to use trash abilities before the next click is spent. Since it's the runner's turn, he has precedence. Then the corp can use paid abilities - for example trash a Jackson preemptively to prevent it being gunned down. Then the unner get a go at paid abilities again, then the corp. Ans on until both players decline. *Then* the runner can initiate a click ability.

In the case of power Shutdown, no one can play a paid ability until the card effect is resolved. Unless it happens to be a prevent ability - say Sacrificial Construct.

Hope I make sense.

Incidentally, it's a new record: 103 credits with Titan Transnational vs Stirling.

>> No.42336576

>>42335770
Thanks, that's what I thought.

I played a game where the runner had more credits than that, and I still won (Geist had tons of drip econ but no none-cloud breakers meant my ice was effectively unbreakable), but should have screenshot it - I think he got to about 120 or so.

>> No.42336908

>I think he got to about 120 or so.

I will make it. I WILL.

>> No.42336962

>>42335770
>103 credits
dude what

>> No.42337259

>>42336908
The problem was I was playing BWBI and while he was finding all of his stuff - again, he only had the cloud breakers - I was just able to keep advancing my ice until he just couldn't get in

Highly amusing, though that was a very long game

>> No.42337314

>>42335770
High risk investment is pretty sweet. So Sterling got up to the mid forties and you popped the counters?

>> No.42337419

>>42337314

Yup - though we both where in our thirties. That deck is ridiculous. It does suffer from the usual Weyland issues, but if I can get it started, between Mark Yale and the agendas proper, my econ is insane.
And I'm playing both Morph and Willow-the-Wisp.

Not a competitive deck by any mean, but I'm having a lot of fun with it.

>> No.42337743

>>42337419
You doing an uncorrodable thing? Will of the Wisp and the morph feed into that. Titan is flexible enough that almost anything works in it, but program destruction seems more Blue Sun to me, since they can bounce parasites and move ice.

Titan's great though. You can just pick two win conditions, slot both into your deck and play. I've done Glacier/Kill (fantastic), Fast Advance/Scorch, and glacier/fast advance. The only tough questions are your non Atlas/HRI agendas and which win condition cards (Punitive or Scorch, Sansan or Trick of Light) are you playing. All I really want is a native, non-combo, protection upgrade. The Twins and Off the Grid have their uses, but I want to have enough deck space to play a jack of all trades deck, which can kill, fast advance, and glacier. That way if you start losing, you just switch plans mid game with the power of Project Atlas.

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>>42337743

>mfw I'm doing trap/advance Titan

So far it's "undefeated"... but 2 matches isn't statistically relevant.

>> No.42338009

I put in a Gabriel deck Account Siphon, Sure Gamble, Dirty Laundry, Daily Casts, Bank Job, 3 fan sites with Data Dealer, and a single Kati Jones.
With Gordian Blade, Garrote and Corroder as breakers I feel that this isn't enough econ. It's so different from Security Testing+Desperado, which is on a whole different level, that is crazy.
Maybe the Drug dealers hurt my econ?

>> No.42338167

>>42337743

It's a very straightforward deck. I generally keep two decks. One I refine over time and use with "involved" players, and one more or less janky I play with more casual ones.

This Titan deck is one the later ones. I have no Project Titan in there even. And some BP removal I totally could do without, but it's nice to have it to show its pacing effect to players that aren't experienced in that.
That being said I'm having so much fun with it I may start thinking refining it over time. Would need a rework first though.

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>>42338167
>Would need a rework first though.
Now, that would be total jank.

>> No.42338302

>>42338009

Whats' your console there ?

The hell are you playing against that you don't have enough econ ?

>Maybe the Drug dealers hurt my econ?

Personally wouldn't think of playing Drug Dealer unless I didn't pla to not pay for it one way or another.
Your mileage may vary.

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>>42338260

I just knew someone would make that joke.

My fault for leaving the opening.

Well played.

>> No.42338677

>>42338302
Since I wanted to step out of the Security Testing+Desperado trope, I went for Box-E and Sneakdoor Beta (since it's Gabriel and all).
My opponents are usually Gagarin, IG with Hollywood Grid, and HB NEXT (various different IDs). Also a bunch of other Jintekis, but econ is irrelevant there.

I understand what you mean with Drug Dealer. The card itself is not so much a draw engine but a replacement effect. It "swaps" your click to draw action with a click to credit. The bigger your profit is for a credit, the better is the exchange. Say you have Security Testing+Desperado? It replaces 3 credits per click for 2 credits and a card. Or having all 3 drug dealers, it's effectively drawing for 3.
It's a really weird card to be fair.

>> No.42338875

>>42338677

I would totally play it in a low econ deck. Doesn't matter that I stand to lose one credit at the beginning of my turn if I have none to lose.

Aaaaand that's when I realize I don't think I ever build a low econ Criminal deck. Might be time to try and remedy that.

Hmmm apart from NEXT; I gather one of your issues is trashing econ ? If so have you tried supplementing it ? Scrubber is a severely undervalued card if you ask me. I mean, sure Imp might be better, but the influence is prohibitive and it needs recursion in the long run.

>> No.42339584

>>42338875
I love scrubber but that can't be the issue because I'm not trashing the assets with this deck, just sniping the agendas and trying to lock R&D versus FA.
After a long time playing econ denial anarch I tried doing the opposite, which is building my own econ and sniping the agendas in the remotes (the deck also includes lemuria and drive by to check score servers for baits). I might be approaching this the wrong way though.

>> No.42339748

>>42339584

Very weird then. That's just very solid econ you have here.

>> No.42340199

>>42330496
Only RP is hit with the first rotation. Blue Sun and NEH will be hit in the 2018 rotation at earliest.

>> No.42340206

>>42338009
>Data Dealer
How's that working out for you? Worth the Fan Site splash?

>> No.42340360

>>42340206
Getting 27 credits the turn the Corp scores an agenda feels awesome. Plus the Gang Signs of course.
Also keep in mind that there are many Jinteki players in my meta that loves Shi-kyu, so that's a plus too.

>> No.42340549

Been playing on jinteki.net and I have seen some clever Leela Patel decks. That's a powerful ID ability.

>> No.42340642

>>42340549

It's a *very* powerful ability that rewards good piloting.

I'm just too anarch for it. Playing Leela, you have to know *not* to run at the right time. I swear last time I played I had sweat in my palms just because there was an opening, and I would have abused it in other decks, but there it wasn't the right move. But it was so hard to resist.

Not, I'm not a bioroid.

Leela vs Blue is still one of my fave Lunar Match up.

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>> No.42342679

Are there any decks right now that actually have good names? I feel like the only semi-decent one I've seen recently is Fascism. Shit like "Yellow Deck Wins" gets so grating after a while.

>> No.42342701

>>42342557

Spider-runner, Spider-runner, does whatever a Spider-runner does

>> No.42342719

>>42342679

NANANANANANANANANANANANANA, KATMAN!

>> No.42342818

>>42342679

What's with this obsession with deck names anyway ?

>> No.42342873

>>42342679
I'm partial to Congress Kate and Black Knight. Grim Feast was a thing for a while too.

>> No.42343091

>>42342873
Also Supermodernism.

>> No.42343304

>>42342818
This.

>> No.42343876

>>42342818
It's a really fun aspect to building the deck to christen it well. See: Barely Legal.

>> No.42343883

>>42327381

Currently playing a no fun med tech deck that uses plenty of program trashing and Cerebral static. It quite funny to watch people struggle when you snipe all their breakers with batty.

>> No.42343901

>>42327381

Right now I'm trying to perfect a GRNDL Deck I call "Taco Tuesday." It's a Weyland deck that's job is not to kill the runner, but to BE THE MOST EVIL CORPORATION because BUSINESS BUSINESS BUSINESS.

Basically all of Weyland's big money agendas, plus some Veterans Campaigns for PR stunts to moderate the metric fucktons of Bad Publicity that this deck can generate.

>> No.42343919

>>42343883
The best way to run those is NeoTokyo Grid + RSVP in PE. I've played that with great results.

>> No.42343986

>>42343919

Maybe. But i prefer just having to score twice with 6 agendas in my deck.

>> No.42344981

>>42343901

Agendas
1x Government Takeover
3x High-Risk Investment
2x Hostile Takeover
3x Veterans Program
Asset (7)
3x Adonis Campaign ••••• •
2x Hostile Infrastructure ••••
2x Tech Startup
Upgrade (5)
3x Breaker Bay Grid
2x Shell Corporation
Operation (9)
3x Beanstalk Royalties
3x Hedge Fund
3x Subliminal Messaging
Barrier (6)
2x Asteroid Belt
2x Fire Wall
2x Hadrian's Wall
Code Gate (5)
3x Enigma
2x Wormhole
Sentry (4)
2x Archer
2x Nebula

Deck list for shennanigans. Trying to think of ways to make the deck more screwy and ~evil~

>> No.42346961

>>42344981
Why not try to make it a bad pub deck ?

>> No.42347218

Do pulled back ice, either by Leela's ability or Blue Sun's, retain their advancement tokens ?

>> No.42347549

>>42347218
No, they don't.
Moved ice do, but pulled to HQ don't.

>> No.42347699

>>42347549
Is it stated in the FAQ ? I can't seem to find it anywhere.

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>>42340360
>Also keep in mind that there are many Jinteki players in my meta that loves Shi-kyu, so that's a plus too.

News Team is even worse, chummer. Triggers from anywhere, unlike Shi-kyu, costs no money to activate, unlike Shi-kyu (unless you threaten with 0 net damage), and grants 2 tags or -1 point.

I expect to see a lot of it to be honest. Data Dealer and Frame Job will only get better.

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>>42342679
>Are there any decks right now that actually have good names?

I named my Titan Transnational deck Barbrastry Sands, after Barbara Streisand, after her effect

The runner is so excited to run on my servers to steal my shit, they end up scoring my Plan B 3-point agendas like Project Atlas and Firmware Updates. I can also Mushin No Shin+Advance a Plan B to try to score 4 point agendas.

Good luck running R&D and HQ also, because I've got 3x Matrix Analyzers on them to accelerate anything in my remote. I might have an actual agenda in there. I might have a trap instead, doesn't matter. Back Channels and make mad dosh.

I'm up for a name change, though. I really just need something along the lines of "runner doing the corp's work for them"

>> No.42349380

>>42348378
Transnational Outsourcing, obviously.

>>42347699
Cards added to HQ are uninstalled. Uninstalled cards have all advancement counters removed.

Has anyone tried out the aggro Hayley deck using DaVinci yet? Seems pretty legit, and I like the idea, but UoT won't get to me for another week minimum.

>> No.42349420

>>42349380
>Transnational Outsourcing, obviously.

Using the ID's name in the deck name is exactly what we need to get away from, lad

>> No.42349427

>>42349380
Aggro hayley with davinci? I haven't read anything about it yet.

>> No.42349438

>>42349420
Why is that? I find it very helpful to know what kind of deck is being discussed.

>> No.42349471

>>42349438

The >>42342679 is an extension of a previous conversation, one that bemoans the lack of creativity in deck names. I hate MTG faggots but the least I can acknowledge is that they come up with some crazy names for their work.

A deck that uses its place of origin (Cambridge Jinteki) or its ID (I dunno, Stimshop Noise?) is bottom of the barrel tier.

Names like Redcoats or Butcher Shop are much better. They don't refer to any of the cards in play but evoke the exact feeling of navigation/playing against it. A good name takes into consideration all of its parts, not just one or two combo pieces.

>> No.42349512

>>42349471
I think Cambridge is fine for a name. The deck itself doesn't do anything special that any other black tree before Honor and Profit didn't do. But it got recognized as Tier 1 at Cambridge Regional, so I think it's fine to honour that moment with such a name.

>> No.42349607

>>42344981

While the hostile infrastructure if you have just 12 trashabe cards?

>> No.42349620
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42349620

Okay lads and ladettes, time for some OC. A TV show called Mr. Robot began this year, and I feel like it's the least-shitty non-anime hacking related piece of media yet. Great cinematography, the script writers aren't "GUI interface using visual basic" retards, there's a lot of Netrunner beats all throughout it, but unfortunately sometimes the dialogue is weak.

So without further ado, Mr. Robot in Weyland. I've got source images from the first 3 episodes already saved, but they're not cleaned up. Fucking upgrade borders are a pain to clean, especially on Weyland.

>> No.42349639

>>42349620

Also apologies for the rez cost, I wasn't going to edit that transparent shit.

I might do Anarch next because the series is filled with drugs. The main character is a morphine addict.

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>>42349620
grndl.net is back.
have fun.

>> No.42350425

>>42349380
What aggro Hayley list?

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>>42350425
I'm guessing he's talking about Fifty-five km/s
http://netrunnerdb.com/en/decklist/25827/fifty-five-km-s

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>>42350646

Pff, Iain Stirling already stars in his own anime film

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5_Centimeters_Per_Second

>> No.42350971

>>42349721

That one took waaaaaay too long, I was expecting it a long time ago.


Thanks I guess.

>> No.42352103

I'm working on a new deck. Need some help thinning it out.

The idea is to install Femme Fatale in London Library + Chameleon in Scheherezade (free credit with Sahasrara) or Dinosaurus (for the extra strength). LLDS does its work on both this turn. And with the last click take FF back, or scavenge it into Dinosaurus.

3 problems I see:
>Clicks
The setup means 2 clicks are kept by London Library, and 1 by the run itself. That's a hell lot of clicks. Although I guess I will not be using FF in every run.
I see most people use Autoscripter and Sacrificial Construct to deal with this.
I thought of including Dorm Computer to deal with the tags for this problem.

>MU
With Sahasrara and Chameleon/Femme Fatale I literally have no space for MO.

>Economy
Career Fair and Modded on one hand.
Sure Gamble and Daily Casts on another.
And MO for a stable income. But since I have MU problems, this seems lacking now.

Hayley Kaplan: Universal Scholar

Event (14)
3x Career Fair •••
3x Diesel
3x Modded
2x Scavenge
3x Sure Gamble

Hardware (11)
2x Clone Chip
1x Dinosaurus
2x HQ Interface ••••
3x LLDS Processor
2x R&D Interface
1x Replicator

Resource (11)
3x Daily Casts
2x Film Critic
2x London Library
2x The Source ••••
2x Tyson Observatory

Icebreaker (5)
3x Chameleon
2x Femme Fatale ••

Program (9)
2x Magnum Opus
2x Sahasrara
2x Scheherazade ••
3x Self-modifying Code

15 influence spent (max 15)
50 cards (min 45)
Cards up to Old Hollywood

Deck built on http://netrunnerdb.com.

>> No.42352252

>>42352103
You could probably keep one Femme permanently on Dino. With one Femme in hand for surgical bypasses, you can rely on two Chameleons most of the time to get through the rest of everything. I'm not sure how to help you, mainly because I'd go a different route in building this deck. Good luck, though.

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>>42352252
I'd like to hear that different route though. Might give me some idea.
Good thinking on the Femme. It's probably the best play.

I just thought that including Omnidrives instead of Scheherezade might work too. I could use 2 Omnidrives to host the Chameleons. This way I can keep the credit gain, but free the memory the Chameleons would occupy to install MO instead.
I still need 1 MU for the surgical bypasses (if I want to keep 2 Sahasrara), but I'm getting closer.
Maybe some crazy jank like MO on Leprechaun, and hyperdrivers.

I feel the jank is getting stronger by the minute.

>> No.42352896
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42352896

Cyberman 2.0 cosplay

>> No.42354444

>>42349380
>>42349427
I've been slamming with da Vinci Haley a lot, its a really solid deck but the way I run it you need to understand how to wait and build to actually win

>> No.42356195

>>42352103

Looks like your deck is totally going to love Technical Writer.

>> No.42356229

Full-rig sunny is brutal.

I'm probably over-cautious, which gave them time, but goddamn

Break any No. of subs is powerful as fuck

>> No.42356272

>>42356229

I'm hoping this will bring back a bit of ICE variety between high STR and high number subroutines, but who knows ?

>> No.42356298

>>42356229
Yeah, it fucks over the current multisub meta. But has a harder time versus high strength ICE.
Not that it matters when they play 3 datasuckers to bring them down and 3 multithreader to pay for it, but still.

>> No.42356471

>>42356298

Yeah, but if this brings a layering where you have to look at STR/number of subroutines the way you have to look at ICE types/subtypes, I'm all for it.

>> No.42357530
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42357530

no need to thank me, FFG

>> No.42357683

>>42357530

Too silver-bullet-y.

>> No.42357737

>>42357683
shut the fuck up lukas, nobody likes you

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>>42357737

>> No.42359585

>>42357530
I don't think it should be a connection. SLC Funding isn't.

>> No.42359641

>>42357683
RP player detected.

>> No.42361260

So, when do you think we can actually expect D&D to drop ? early-mid October ?

>> No.42361411

>>42359641
RP can't do shit currently. It's not even that good.

>> No.42363110

>>42361411
I agree, RP players are now playing IG.

>> No.42364455

If I install Beckman with my 4th click, do I get my 5th click immediatelly or do I have to wait for the next turn? Can I, say, install Beckman first click and mine 8 credits with MO?

>> No.42364787

>>42364455

No.

You're not gaining any additional clicks during the turn in which you install.

>> No.42364969

>>42364787
Why? You get clicks the turn you score Mandatory Upgrades. I think it'd work the same way.

>> No.42365038

>>42364455
Yes you do. Clicks are tracked as a running total.

You have four clicks to spend.

You click Opus three times. You have four clicks to spend and three spent clicks.

You install Beckman. You have five clicks to spend and four spent clicks. That means you have one still to go.

http://ancur.wikia.com/wiki/Click

>> No.42366399

>>42365038
This.

>> No.42368455

>this is the game that got me into comp Sci
>spent the last 2 years learning and catching up on programming and the nuances of the rig
>cuck Corp cogs and get high paying internships looking like a mix between noise and chaos theory
>decide I know enough to start learning how to hack
>hacking in real life is boring as fuck
At least I found a new interest in artificial intelligence and robotics. ..

Shit I love this games atmosphere so much but this shit isn't as fun as real life

>> No.42368570

>>42368455
Real life isn't as fun as this shit*

>> No.42368595

>>42368455
>>hacking in real life is boring as fuck
How are you even slightly surprised? When has anything been as fun in real life as it's portrayed in fiction?

>> No.42369254
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42369254

How does /tg/ feel about their opponents using custom alters?

>> No.42369748

>>42369254
Ugly as fuck/10
Would not play against

>> No.42370254

>>42369254
Same way I feel about it in M:tG. If it's altering the feel of the card, the it's cheating. But stuff like signed cards don't add any appreciable weight, so they're fine.

>> No.42371953

>>42369254
Weeaboo/10
Would Account Siphon.

>> No.42374111

>>42369254
If it's an ID, I don't give a shit.

If it's a regular card, it's annoying because I mainly recognize cards by the image. You're slowing things down just because you want to be a special snowflake. Cards like the one you posted would be tolerable because it's visually pretty similar to the original, though I would still silently judge you for it.

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>>42374111

>> No.42374876

>>42369254

Don't care at all. It's harmless fun.

I don't see it as any different than proxy-ing cards.

>> No.42375089

>>42374668
>Snowflake
>non-unique
gotta love it when cards manage to convey messages through the mechanics

>> No.42375099

If I doing a Prey run and lower the strength of a piece of ice, does the strength reset after Prey triggers?

>> No.42375112

>>42375099
Yes

>> No.42375172

>>42375112
before right? you have to pass an ice to fire Prey, and all ice str reduction (except parasite counters) is only during encounters.

>> No.42375185

>>42375172
Yes

>> No.42376521
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>>42352103
Hayley guy here. Just posting to comment that I ended up with 4 different versions of the deck.

> Final version of the original design
This versions includes the omni-drives and woman in the red dress instead of R&D multiaccess. It drops sure gamble and scavenge, which makes it slow if I don't draw into MO or SMC. Also trying to hold LLDS while waiting for replicator /Tyson Observartory makes it slower.

> Gang Sign version
Added 2 Gang Signs, and all 3 HQ interface, while threatening the remotes with Femme and Chameleon, and checking R&D with Woman in the Red Dress.
This is the current version of the deck that I'm going to test tomorrow at a league match.

> Progenitor Hayley
Instead of Woman in the Red Dress and Gang Signs, here I play a similar rig with Progenitor, Chakana, and Deep thought. All multiaccess is dropped here though.

>Progenitor Hayley with a Big Rig
Now, instead of the Sahasrara, Chameleon, Femme Fatale idea, here I went with extra MU, a Morning Star, and a Study Guide. Still playing Chameleon for early pressure, and Femme Fatale on Dinosaurus as main Killer though.
This is actually my favourite version, it looks pretty simple but I think it might be the strongest. Considering adding NRE.

>> No.42377199

>>42376521

Thanks for the heads up. Food for thought.

I really wish I could like Hayley, but I look at her and I'm not interested at all. No spark, no building inspiration.

>> No.42377297

What's your favorite cycle so far ?
Mine and my friend's is the Lunar cycle, for its incredible IDs (IG, Blue Sun, the Foundry, Leela and Quetzal) and overall relly interesting card pool (Stealth Breakers, Counter Breakers, Grail ICEs...)

>> No.42377332

>>42377297

Not a cycle, but Order & Chaos had me hooked

>> No.42377363

>>42377297
Either Lunar or Spin Cycle for me.

>> No.42377410

>>42377297
Lunar too

>> No.42377609

>>42377297

Genesis feels a bit too much like the second half of the core box + some random cards.
Spin I'm partial to, it's got some of my favorite cards from a design standpoint, but it really feels incomplete.
Lunar had the IDs... just that gives it an edge. Probably the most solid overall.
SanSan, already stated my opinion in previous thread. I like what they did with the formating of individual data packs. Overall, I don't know. The re-center around low econ play fits my style - and probably competitive people's too - better, but it feels like they abandoned the high econ builds for the cycle at least.

I'd go with Lunar for now yeah.

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>> No.42380577

>>42377297
Spin Cycle for giving us Jackson.

>> No.42380630

>>42380577

May his cycling time come.

>> No.42380868

>>42380630
May be pass from us to heaven and cycle objectives for god.

>> No.42381600

So I really really really like netrunner. I've played a lot of card games and it's for sure my favorite to play. Unfortunately no one I know likes it, most of my friends are intimidated by it and think it's complicated.

Anyway, is there any good way to play it online?

>> No.42381683

>>42381600
Jinteki.net is easy, OCTGN also exists

>> No.42381800

>>42381600
Browser-based Jinteki.net is okay - as I write this post it's lagging like a bitch, which sometimes happens, but it's mostly good

OCTGN I've not tried, but I've heard it's alright. Better for recording things

>> No.42381820

>>42381683
Does Netrunner work well octgn? I've played the DBZ tcg on it and it was alright but games room way longer then they should have too.

>> No.42381864

I'm on my phone, does Jinteki.net have any automation with the game rules or is it like octgn where every thing is done manuelly?

>> No.42381966

>>42381864
Not everything is automated but most of it is

>> No.42382069

>>42381864
Most of it is automated, and most of everything else is doable manually

Occasionally you get something, or a bug, but it's pretty good - it's only very rarely you'll make a mistake that's a ballache to fix

>> No.42382358

>>42381864
>or is it like octgn where every thing is done manuelly?
wut? Most cards are automated in OCTGN Netrunner.

>> No.42382817
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42382817

Do any of you guys have experience using pic related?

I'm reluctantly considering dropping Crisium Grid for it - don't know if I can fit them both in my deck - I guess I'd have to drop ice or econ, and I want at least 2.

Most probable econ to drop is Subliminal Messaging, and I think for ice it'd be my 1-of Excalibur

>> No.42382916

>>42382817
I don't know why it's not used more often.

>> No.42383050

>>42382817

*Very* expensive, you need very solid econ to make it work.

And ways to force runs too, I'd say.

All in all it kinda limits the building around it, though in games where I managed to use it, it's been pivotal to my victory. Getting rid of a Fracter or AI at the right time can be huge, better than trashing it given the amount of recursion.

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>>42382916

Ichi exists, can't be accessed, has no trash cost, has only 1 higher rez cost, can trash TWO programs, and scares the Runner away from that server for a good long while.

If Ichi weren't a thing, I'm sure Will O' Wisp would see play. But that's not the world we live in.

>> No.42383156

>>42383117

What Will'o does and program trashing are not exactly the same though.

>> No.42383239

>>42383156

That's true, but program tutor is only marginally harder for the Runner than program recursion. Either way it's removal, the difference is that Ichi's removal is countered with a Clone Chip, while Will's is countered with Special Order or Self-Modifying Code.

Also, Ichi stays in play, scaring the Runner for the foreseeable future. The same can't be said for Will.

>> No.42383410

>>42383239

That's why I run both program trashing an will'o in the same deck personally.

>Ichi stays in play,

Well; yeah, but ICE trashing. *And* Ichii subroutines can be broken, Will'o fires specifically because you succeeded in breaking a subroutine. Overall, going to be faction and build dependent I'd say. Againt Anarch I'll often prefer an Ice Wall + Will'o; against criminal, probably some program trashing options.

Against Shapers, all vets are off.

>> No.42383450

>>42383117
Ichi's good, but can be broken - not the easiest break, but still very doable.

Also I'm not HB.

Man, I wish Weyland could get a Destroyer that good

>> No.42383745

>>42383450

To be fair, Ichii 1.0 is "that" good because it's a bioroid.

And we have something as good in Weyland. Better even to a point. It's called Archer. Nebula can be decent also.

>> No.42384111

>>42383745
Archer, yes, Archer is amazing - Nebula, I haven't used.
As I mainly play Blue Sun I haven't really delved into the Space ice outside of Wormhole and Orion, so I should probably give that a shot.

But still, Bioroids are really, really good value - on something like Ichi you can't really click through it, though at least you can avoid losing your stuff, at a cost of 2+ clicks, assuming you have them.
I think it's the having 3 subs that make him such a good card, at least until a datasucker pops up - multi-sub is definitely the way to go right now - Ichi with just a single program trash and his trace would by pretty poor, but 2 program trashes is a deadly beast

>> No.42384249

>>42384111

But then it can be safely face-checked early game, that's not a small weakness. But yeah, great value. Kinda went overboard with some (Eli 1.0 is just a mess for balance).

As for the last subroutine, most of the time I'll let it fire, but then I tend to play aggressively anti-econ.

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>>42383050
One could argue that Snare is also very expensive. Certainly it's not for a light econ Corp, but I think the effect is totally worth it. Now that everyone is back at playing Yog, the card is amazing to set back the runner.

>Watch and cry in my Lotus Fields, Runner, because you're not getting in for a good while.

>> No.42386383

>>42386185
The best is Wisping away a Faust vs. an Anarch.

>> No.42386516
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>>42386383
The exact reason I was asking about it

>> No.42386821
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>>42383450
>>42383745
Did you guys forget about me?

>> No.42387408

>>42386821
Bad Dog!

Seriously, BP sucks without a way to get rid of it

I'm liking Assassin as a potential replacement for Grim in decks with lots of money - for just 2 more you get 2 trace subs, and they start high

>> No.42387449

Do you think Netrunner will be rebooted as it happened to aGoT to "fix" balance issues somewhere in the future?

>> No.42387500
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>>42386821
Lab Dog is going to eat your Desperado

>> No.42387625
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>>42387500
Fenris will eat your brain

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>>42387625
Komainu will eat your hand (Fenris is eating Tyr's)

>> No.42387720
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>>42387500
>>42387625
>>42387688

Well I'm just gonna eat your fuckin' server.

>> No.42387740
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>>42387688
pup will just nip your heels

Add NBN's Hounds (news and data), then you have the real dog deck - runner dog decks are for amateurs

>> No.42387828

>>42387720
Ah, fuck you parasite

And sadly I think Weyland's only contribution to the dog deck is Lycan, which is terrible.
If it had 1 more strength it might have been okay (2 more would be amazing, worth up to 7 credits probably), but as it is, it's crap

>> No.42387851
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...Today I learned Grim is supposed to be a dog, not a horse.

>> No.42387906

>>42387449

Personally, I don't think it's a matter of if but a matter of when. Sooner or later, even with cycling, they'll reach a point when the card pool is so wide they'll either have to reprint cycled out cards, or power creep will set in, or they won't have enough venues to explore.

By then a new iteration of the game will seem a lot more desirable.

>> No.42387926

>>42387851
You mean the Nightmare horse?
Grim is a black hound from the british isles folklore, often associated with ghosts and death in general.

>> No.42387927

>>42387449
Whole ruleset, unlikely, but I do see them eventually releasing a new core set to rebalance right at the point of the first rotation.

>> No.42387953

>>42387926
I kind of always just thought it was meant to be horse as an homage to the four horsemen of the apocalypse. I never paid attention to the art that closely.

>> No.42387965

>>42387828

Would love to have the designer's logic behind Lycan and Negotiator.

>> No.42387983

>>42387927
I don't think they'll do it then - that'd just double down on the least popular part of the entire rotation thing

>> No.42387990

>>42387953
Or the flavour text.

>> No.42388017

>>42387983
What least popular part? That Anarch breakers can finally have fixed influence, or that NBN can have actual agenda options without the overarching autoinclude that is AstroScript?

>> No.42388051

>>42387965
Negotiator was apparently the victim of a change quite late in testing, and the current version didn't have enough time after being revised

Lycan, I really don't know - strength 4 would be okay, but really it's just a message

>> No.42388108

>>42388017
Hey, since we're invalidating cards, let's just invalidate the core set, which everyone who owns the game has, pretty much, and many people have 3
That's not going to piss everyone off, is it?

>> No.42388129

What's worse, Negotiator or Burke Bugs? Somehow I'm starting to believe Burke Bugs is useful in comparison.

>> No.42388131

How is the competitive scene of Netrunner? some months ago here in my country we held the nationals of different FF games like aGoT 1st.E, Warhammer conquest, X-wing and naturally Netrunner.

>> No.42388154

>>42388131
Better than every other FFG game. Huge fan run tournament series with the ANRPC stuff.

>> No.42388207

Plot twist: to make the card pool more accessible to new players, when set rotation begins all FFG-sanctioned tournaments will be 7 rounds of draft.

>> No.42388236

>>42388207
I'm fine with this.

Didn't they try a new draft format at PAX?

>> No.42388289

>>42388236
Don't know don't care, draft is a plague on the game.

>> No.42388300
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Just came back home with Order and Chaos. Oh boy all these sweet virus.

I don't have much in terms of a collection, I started with 2 core, that shaper/HB and now this. You guys think I should get the Jin/Criminal as well?

I feel like they're great to expand on while I still learn new thing.

>> No.42388420

>>42388051

Heard a rumor Negotiator had one more subroutine. Given Lycan is either code gate or sentry, I have a feeling it could be about the fixed breakers, but if so I think the designers have once more been too conservative as far as Weyland is concerned (does seem to me like the faction that's suffered the most from that issue).

>>42388129

Haven't used Negotiator yet, but I've sat across. Could be better for sure, not as bad as some are making it out to be I find. Burke Bugs... had a lot of fun with the little buggers recently, but they're still very specific, so hard to set up, for a pay off so marginal it's hard to justify them in a deck.

>>42388017

Initial promise was: the core is the core. It shall remain untouched as much as possible. No errata, no ban list.

With that sitting heavy other everything, we have several problems. Among which:

- You can't print a new core. Obviously.
- If you decide that some cards are too meaningful to be removed via cycling, you're going to have to make special reprints, cause the original data packs are going out of production. And those reprints kinda go against the whole point of cycling out to remove from the load of FLGS; they can't be incorporated in new cycles, or you're spiting old players. Which means new dedicated data packs on top of core, big boxes and currently active cycles have to be made and stocked.

>> No.42388453

>>42388300
I remember only 2 viruses in OnC, but it's certainly a great box.
If you fancy Jin and Criminals, it's certainly a good box to get. Otherwise you're not going to use it much, few things are actually splashable for other factions.

>> No.42388643

>>42388300

If you like Jinteki, you're going to buy that box. No question about it, the toys for that faction are just too fun AND good to pass up

Criminals have been my least played faction, so take that with a grain of salt, but I don't think the box has been in any way central or necessary for them apart from a couple of cards. It's been about options and expanding the range.

How soon you want to get to get H&P is going to depend on how you play. If you're not interested into the competitive scene, if you play mostly with friends; I'd say no need to rush. build with your new toys, play a bit, and when you feel like you want to expand the options because your games are getting a bit stale, then go for it.

If you play in clubs, and those aren't your factions you can probably postpone the same way. Though it could do you some good to have it.

If you intend to play competitively and those are your faction you're probably going to want it sooner than later.

Have fun with O&C. Love that box myself.

>>42388453

Only two Viruses proper, but three support cards for virus decks.

>> No.42388772
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42388772

Every time I see the pre-release version of that card, I feel that small sting in my heart.

>> No.42388993

Edward Kim: Humanity's Hammer

Event (6)
3x Day Job
3x Sure Gamble

Hardware (12)
3x Archives Interface
3x Clone Chip ••••• •
2x MemStrips
2x Net-Ready Eyes ••••
2x Turntable

Resource (13)
2x Adjusted Chronotype
3x Daily Casts
3x Liberated Account
2x The Supplier ••••
3x Wyldside

Icebreaker (6)
1x Corroder
2x Faust
2x Mimic
1x Yog.0

Program (8)
3x Datasucker
2x Medium
3x Parasite

14 influence spent (max 15)
45 cards (min 45)
Cards up to The Underway

Deck built on http://netrunnerdb.com.

>> No.42389072

>>42388993
Crap, forgot the deja vus.

>> No.42389193

>>42388643
>>42388453
thanks for you input guys. I do like Jinteki, they're pretty fun to play.

>> No.42390125

>>42388772
why? i don't see a difference

>> No.42390172

>>42349620
>A TV show called Mr. Robot began this year, and I feel like it's the least-shitty non-anime hacking related piece of media yet.

I just started watching this. I love it.

>> No.42391024

It's past midnight, so I'm not breaking any promises. Enjoy.

>Name: Like I know for sure
>Weyland - ID
>45/12
>Your maximum handsize is increased by 1
>At the end of each turn, gain 1c if you have cards in HQ equal to your maximum handsize

>> No.42391095

>>42388772
>>42390125
A single credit makes all the difference. I feel your pain. Just can't justify it at 3 to install.

>> No.42392256

>>42318814
I was involved with the discussion last thread but.

The answer is traps.

You run multiple junebugs, ghost branches, snares.

I'd run it with Sakai and Plan B, also Oaktown.

The point being if the runner can't trash it; they have to eat whatever you put in it.

Holding executives works - if they want the points, they have to come in and get it.

>> No.42392807

>>42388420
>the designers have once more been too conservative as far as Weyland is concerned (does seem to me like the faction that's suffered the most from that issue).
I'd definitely say they have that as an issue.

Its somewhat understandable that a degree of caution and conservatism is warranted, and it's thematic to boot - Weyland aren't one of the dynamic Android-producing corporations, or the ever-changing media, they're the most traditional, most established power, and their three big things are having a lot of money, killing the runner with meat damage, and advancable ice.

Of those, advancable ice is probably the easiest to explore without being OP, and I guess the faction's money presence is the reason for their commonly high costs

Still, it's annoying, and has left them comparatively weak - I hope the designers can dare to be a little less conservative when it comes to giving Weyland powerful cards

>> No.42392870
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42392870

>>42387500
>"This ICE guards a lab, and views itself as a real dog. It is, however, completely an AI construct, which manifests as various cybernetic bits and not being quite “correct” as dog."
Some Lab Dog flavour that didn't make it to the card

>> No.42393101

>>42388289
It's times like these that make me wish this wasn't an anonymous board, so that I could put you on an ignore list since you're obviously wrong about everything and will never have anything of value to say.

>> No.42393284

>>42393101
Drafting is stupid, and you'll just have to deal with that fact.

>> No.42393294

>>42393101
>>42393284
Guys I understand this thread might not be as active as you want, but stop trying to revive it with shitpost.

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42393327

>>42393294
You can't tell me what to do, you're not my real dad.

On a more on topic note, what are some of the more under appreciated cards that mesh well with Kate? I've been trying some janky brews with her, mostly with cheap hardware.

>> No.42393728

How to efficiently deal with Janus 1.0 ?

>> No.42393757

>>42393728
"Pray to every deity that might reside in the Net" is first thing to come to my mind.

>> No.42393795

>>42393728
Once? Faerie
Always? Femme

Add Crecentus for tears.

>> No.42393812

>>42393795
>crescentus
He plays with eliza's toybox, so that isn't much of a problem to him.

>> No.42393891

>>42393812
What do you play?

>> No.42393916

>>42393891
Anarch. Last time i was playing Val, so i got rekt.

>> No.42393920

>>42393812
First, you should be trashing those toybox.
Second, trust me, losing a whole turn to it hurts if you are pressuring centrals and need to get all these agendas and ICE out.
Source: Toybox player.

>> No.42393981

>>42393916
First >>42393920
Second, yeah Val's not great against something like that, but if your friend plays it regularly consider leverage

Third, e3, paintbrush, Quetzal (with or without Surfer), D4v1d and Cutlery runs can make a mockery of ice (Painted ice retains its original types, so Knifed and Forked both work equally as well)

NRE and/or Ice Carver also do good work

>> No.42394077

>>42393981
Hah, good thinking on leverage, that's going to be a kick in the balls.

>> No.42394494

>>42315525
>>42325490
I have no idea what this game is, but it looks cool. Someone throw me some more artwork for my Shadowrun (in Faerun) game.

>> No.42394520
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42394520

>>42394494
What sort of thing are you looking for?

>> No.42394684
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42394684

>>42394494

Shadowrun in... what kind of unholy mixture is that ?!

>> No.42394692

>>42394520
Environmental and people. Less of the in-cyber stuff.

>> No.42394722

>>42394684
It's pretty good. Kobolds alongside halflings along side humans getting into trouble with corporations, cultists, and the mafia.

>> No.42394857

>>42391024
So basically just a broken TWIY*.

>> No.42394875

>>42393728
Click + e3
D4v1d + e3
Really, just play a Quetzal deck and all your big ice problems become moot solely by nature of the deck.

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42395001

>>42394692

>> No.42395017
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42395017

>>42395001

>> No.42395037
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42395037

>>42395017

>> No.42395077

>>42395001
>that tiny fucking building.
It hurts to look at.

>> No.42395084
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42395084

>>42395017

https://youtu.be/ON-7v4qnHP8

sorry I can't resist

>> No.42395100

>>42394722
>>42394692

Going to have a hard time finding something that fits. Gotta love those crazy home-cooked settings.

Anyway, that's all the collected Netrunner art I have on hands. Hopefully you find something to your liking.

https://www.sendspace.com/file/q387r0

>> No.42395124

>>42394857

What would you think of TWIY* and NEH had their influence been swapped ?

>> No.42395141

>>42395124

I think NEH should have had 13 influence tbh.

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42395143

>>42395084

>> No.42395154
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42395154

>>42395077
The one with the first floor window exploding, in the foreground?

>> No.42395160

>>42395124
I don't think it would have made any sense given the influence density a 40/17 would have allowed for. NEH as a 45/12 would have been fine, or even it as a 45/15. I don't understand why they thought the ID was *SO WEAK* that it needed the 2 extra.

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42395215

>>42395154
I've got pictures of the rooms from Infiltration, if you want them?

>> No.42395279

>>42395160
But they wouldn't have had any influence left after taking those Scorched Earth !

>> No.42395336

>>42395160
>>42395141

Yeah, 40/15 and 45/12 was more what I had in mind.

>I don't understand why they thought the ID was *SO WEAK* that it needed the 2 extra.

I think they severely overestimated the HQ agenda clogging issue. But then it's an issue that is lessened for competitive builds. The ones most likely to give post-release feedback.

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42395357

>>42395143

I actually didn't recognize that card because I have never seen it played

I've played this LCG for about 15 months, too

>> No.42395430

>>42395336
>I think they severely overestimated the HQ agenda clogging issue
I mean that's true, but like did they expect everybody to be slotting Rework or something?

>> No.42395515

>>42393728

E3 and just watch them cry after you break a 15 cred ice with 1 click and 3 creds

>> No.42395591

>>42395515
>>42394875
>>42393981
>>42393920
He tends to also rely on the twins to make people encounter it multiple times.
Are e3 still usable, or do i have to spend a new click ?

>> No.42395597

>>42395591
you need to pass it again, so you'd need the second click.

>> No.42396424

If snowjax returns for Mumbad I will be so fucking ecstatic.

>> No.42396739

>>42396424
She's dead, Jim.

>> No.42396784

>>42340642
>Not, I'm not a bioroid.
RUN YOU LIAR

>> No.42396907

>>42396739
Isn't there anyone to spoil us at least weyland cards ?

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42396996

>>42396907
That's a point, I don't think we've seen any yet.

Posting Mumbad cards

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42397010

>>42396996

>> No.42397027
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42397027

>>42397010

>> No.42397035

>>42396996
We didn't. That's why I'm asking.
As a Weyland player I must say i'm a bit afraid of what it means.

>> No.42397055

>>42396996

The most interesting theory I've heard about Exclusive Party was that it relied on "Ritzy" subtype, like Eliza's Toybox. You would need a Ritzy card in play in order to play it/activate it. This was supported by another Mumbad card requiring Seedy in play (like Street Peddler).

What do you chummers think?

>> No.42397076

>>42396996
>Sadyojata
I'm super hyped about this.

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42397077

>>42397027

>> No.42397148
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42397148

I'm forseeing a rise in Blackmail

>>42397035
I'm hoping it means weyland get good stuff (they're my preferred faction), but I really don't know

>>42397076
It's certainly interesting looking

>> No.42397178

>>42397076

Why would you? That would be like being excited over Gingerbreadman.

It really depends on the quality of the other deva programs, but that's not worthy of getting hopeful tbh. The B&E suite (Spike, Crowbar, etc.) are shitty too.

>> No.42397199

>>42397178
I've seen really good use out of the B&E suite, honestly, but they're so slow. Really not what Crim needs right now.

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42397249

Random lame netrunner trivia - we now know 4 or 5 universities in the Android world

Levy University
University of the Californias at Breaker Bay
NeoTokyo Daigaku
Chatterjee University
University of New Ecuador (the seal in the background of ProCo)

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42397276

Alt name: Engineering the Food

>> No.42397937

>>42397249
>NeoTokyo Daigaku
where was this one?

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42397996

>>42397937
Mentioned in the Breaker Bay announcement as one of the Unis that competes to be on the top of the NBN best university list (with Levy and UCBB)

>> No.42398824

I just bought H&P and right now I only have H&P and core. is a harmony medtech deck built around fast track+medical breakthrough a realistically usable deck with the cards I have available to me?

>> No.42398932

>>42398824
Glacier medtech has been pretty good, but I don't remember what ice was all in those sets.
The agenda spread looks like this:

3x The Future Perfect, 2x Priority Requisition, 3x House of Knives.

This essentially builds you a 5-agenda Medtech, because the 1-pointers are completely useless unless the runner manages to score all three of them, something that never happens.

>> No.42398958

>>42397178
B&E is only good for Geist, and even then only barely so.

>> No.42398982

Has anyone here played a good amount versus or as Fisk? Thinking about bringing him blind to a decent 20 person GNK next week. Already got my Femme.

Curious how strong/weak he feels.

>> No.42398996

>>42398982
To further this, I was thinking about playing 1x Eater, Datasucker Parasite... and 3x Unscheduled Maintenance

>> No.42399537

>>42398982
>>42398996
He can be really scary to anyone who isn't PE, but being a PE player myself I can't judge how much damage he's really capable of. Running him with Hacktivist Meeting has proved to be really funny.

>> No.42399601

How do I defeat MaxX? I'm fucking sick of her. She can pressure HQ (Wanton Destruction), R&D (Keyhole + Eater), Archives (Hades Shard to get all of the cards) all with a basic kit of cards. Remotes aren't safe to Inside Job splash.

Obviously Blacklist and Chronos Project are legit hate cards, but the former is trashable and the latter exists in a weird twilight zone where I'd want to score it mid-late game to maximize the amount of cards destroyed. Not to mention I still have to score it.

What do?

>> No.42399797

>>42399601
Crisium Grid. She instantly loses.

>> No.42399970

>>42399601
Crisium Grid.

And possibly Housekeeping, if you have room, that shit is great

>> No.42400009

>>42397276
We are what we eat, and motherfucker, we eat runners. For fucking breakfast. Come at me.

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42400144

Oh, I forgot a Business First card.
Well, sort of a card.
We know this is art for a card, we just have no idea what the rest of it is

>> No.42400270

>>42398932
Identity
Harmony Medtech: Biomedical Pioneer (Honor and Profit)

Agenda (6)
3x The Future Perfect (Honor and Profit)
3x Priority Requisition (Core Set)

Asset (9)
3x Snare! (Core Set)
3x PAD Campaign (Core Set)
3x Plan B (Honor and Profit)

ICE (16)
3x Wall of Thorns (Core Set)
3x Komainu (Honor and Profit)
2x Susanoo-No-Mikoto (Honor and Profit)
3x Tollbooth (Core Set) •• •• ••
3x Enigma (Core Set)
2x Wall of Static (Core Set)

Operation (11)
2x Precognition (Core Set)
3x Hedge Fund (Core Set)
3x Fast Track (Honor and Profit)
3x Beanstalk Royalties (Core Set) • • •

Upgrade (2)
2x NeoTokyo Grid (Honor and Profit)
how is this?


Total Cards: 44
Total Influence: 9

>> No.42400618

>>42399970
>>42399797

good idea, thanks

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42400638

>>42400144

Restructured Datapools Mk II

7/3

Trace4 - If successful, double the amount of tags on the runner.

>> No.42400658

>>42400270
this isn't the usual Harmony Medtech i see...
you'd probably want to go with cheaper ICEs, I would also recommend some Neural Katanas.

>> No.42402837

>>42400270
Film Critic was here, your Future Perfect is gone.

>> No.42402941

>>42402837
>sept 2015
>not installing and scoring it on film critic
I shiggy you diggies.

>> No.42403066

>>42398958
>>42397199

B&E seems terrible on Geist.

I'm working on some B&E with Andy, mass install and autoscripter. Probly throw tech writer in there now.

Even then they still seem pretty shitty compared to a traditional breaker suite.

>> No.42403083

>>42402941
Doesn't work. That "glitch" was fixed.

>> No.42403415

I have core set, Order and Chaos and a few data packs, can i make a good use of Spinal Tap ?

>> No.42403427

Anyone have a good idea for installable cards that you'd want to get in mid run, there's something I want to do with da Vinci, but I think 5-7 is the sweet install range.

>> No.42403717
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42403717

>>42403415
>can i make a good use of Spinal Tap ?
HELL YEAH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsOxgwF9LlM

>>42403427
Scrubbers, Decoy, Sacrificial Constructs, Muertos Gang Member, Sacrificial Clone (kek), and all the stuff you usually install in PW.

Also, not during a run, but you could install Activist Support before your turn begins and trash it with Chopbot/Aesop after it gives the BP.

>> No.42403749

>>42403427
Femme comes to mind, though that's very expensive.
Faerie or D4v1d

But it can be any card, doesn't just have to be programs.

Haylay will love it

>> No.42404137

>>42403427
Copycat

>> No.42405218

Skulljack should have been not unique.

>> No.42405359

>>42405218
What the fuck, this card has absolutely nothing going for it.

>> No.42406517

Would you play it?

Edward Kim: Humanity's Hammer

Event (15)
3x Career Fair •••
3x Cyber Threat
3x Déjà Vu
3x Sure Gamble
3x Surge

Hardware (3)
3x Clone Chip ••••• •

Resource (17)
2x Adjusted Chronotype
3x Data Folding
3x Liberated Account
3x The Supplier ••••• •
3x Virus Breeding Ground
3x Wyldside

Program (11)
3x Hivemind
2x Medium
3x Parasite
3x Progenitor

15 influence spent (max 15)
46 cards (min 45)
Cards up to Breaker Bay

Deck built on http://netrunnerdb.com.

>> No.42406884

>>42406517
Why Edward Kim? Why not anyone else?

>> No.42407055

>>42406884
No reason, might aswell play Reina Roja for the extra tax

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