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CYBERPUNK THREAD

>> No.40311853

reddit.com/r/cyberpunk/top

>> No.40311882

>>40311853
>reddit

>> No.40311907

>>40311882
Reddit can be good if you're just looking for very specific things quickly. The community is terrible and the people who use it are shitty, but it's decent for instant information, at least when it comes to hobbies.

>> No.40311969

There was a thing on TV last night about the history of sci-fi. Not a single mention of cyberpunk.

>> No.40311988

>>40311969
tv or /tv/?

>> No.40312085

>>40311988
TV. I don't go to other boards. There was a bunch of shit about Asimov and worldbuilding and Star Wars and shit, but no Blade Runner or anything.

>> No.40312090

saw Blade Runner's Sketchbook by Syd Mead (film concept artist) last week, if anyone wants to see it:

http://goonies1632.free.fr/bftp/Blade%20Runner%20Sketchbook.pdf

>> No.40312112

>>40312085
looked it on google, apparently it's a tv series, maybe they aren't in the cyberpunk era yet.

>> No.40312250

>>40312112
It's not chronological. They went from Firefly to Le Guin to Foundation to Star Wars.

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>>40311835
Does anyone have Cyberpunk interiors like offices or apartments and/or bed rooms?

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>>40312488
I have a plane interior designed by Nike, has an interesting aesthetic.

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>>40313028
I won't bore with all of the pics, i think a reverse image search will get the rest, but I'll post the highlights.

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>> No.40313072

I read Mirrorshades, I still don't get cyberpunk

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>>40313067
Not from the same set, obviously. Just going through my folder now.

>>40313072
Read through Burning Chrome, either just that individual short or the entire compilation. If you don't get it after that, I don't know if you ever will.

>> No.40313125

>>40313072
What's to 'get'?
It's a future wherein technology is advanced and corporations are operating like it's a real free market instead of being under (some level of) government regulations

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>>40313104
Kinda counts?

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>>40313072
http://www.american-buddha.com/burnchrome.htm
Sorry about the colour scheme.

>>40312488
Got a few

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These are cool anon, keep them coming.

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>> No.40313249

>>40313104
Will check out
>>40313125
Outside of Stone Lives I didn't really catch that. Hell one of the stories was in a monastary with a tarp on it, so that's close I guess. Maybe I expected more overshadowing of evil corps than intimately personal stories

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Is there any cyberpunk that explores the role of the Church (whichever denomination) in a world where nearly everyone is in the disenfranchised and disillusioned under-class?

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>>40313241

>>40313249
It's defined by Gibson as "High tech, low life." Part of the draw is that cyberpunk focuses on crime, and individuals, and not even necessarily heroes, but people just trying to survive. It's the idea that the future won't be grandiose, or utopian, or really all that different from today. We'll still have drugs, and crime, and poverty.

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>>40313273
Can't think of any, off the top of my head.

There's a fair number of ways to look at it though - evangelicals and megachurches seem like they'd fit particularly well?

>> No.40313337

>>40313273
I'd imagine it's almost entirely gone. I've always thought the only thing that could oppose a cyberpunk mega-corp would be a sufficiently zealous cult, more casual religions probably wouldn't work though.

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>>40313337
I doubt even a Church could dare to try competing with a corporate marketing division. Though that battle could be the basis of a hell of a story.

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>> No.40313401

>>40313337
>I've always thought the only thing that could oppose a cyberpunk mega-corp would be a sufficiently zealous cult

>Catholic Church is fucking around with Aztechnology

It's the little things that make me like Shadowrun

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>>40313417

>>40313401
I'd love that game to death if it weren't for its players.

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>> No.40313471

>>40313373
Well the idea is that it's so powerful because it's members are basically insane and immune to any dissuasion by fear or greed, basically street paladins and terrorists, and they're too well organized to be killed off completely.

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>>40313457

>>40313471
I'd imagine the corporations would just take the tactic of using the youthful attraction to rebellion and driving children away from the Faith by advertising atheism, or better yet, a more corporate-approved (read: corporate controlled) religion. Like a salesman.

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>> No.40313584

>>40313506
Cults will always be able to find members in spite of larger and more controlled religion, the only way to really minimize the amount of people prone to that would be to actually improve living conditions, and megacorps would never do that. Another idea I had for them would be said cults creating super intelligent AIs to support them, which would either be viewed as angels or worshiped as the gods of the themselves, and "enlightened" people get hooked up with cybernetics that allow psychic communication with said AIs.

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>>40313337
I don't know, religions are pretty hard to stamp out.

And the Catholic church, at the very least, is damn rich, while simply being somewhere every muslim is meant to visit once in their life is a considerable source of income for Saudi Arabia

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>>40313205
That's not cyberpunk. That's an ordinary loading dock.

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>>40313723

>>40313785
Whether it's ordinary, and what function it serves, really doesn't determine whether it's cyberpunk to me. It still visually evokes the right feelings, and we already live in the cyberpunk future anyway.

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>>40313785
I was thinking that. There's a few others, but whatever, those places still exist in a cuberpnk world

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>>40313864
we retro

>> No.40313891

>>40312085
not even Jodorowsky? His stuff influenced a ton of sci-fi

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>> No.40313933

>>40313891
I didn't see all of it, but I wouldn't know Jodorowsky if I talked to him, so...

>tfw have many Gibson novels in mobi, but have no free time to read them

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>>40313890

>> No.40313946

>>40313890
dickass computers, only using morse code

>> No.40313951

>>40313933
>tfw pretty sure that my upload of a bunch of Gibson .mobis like a year ago has been on /tg/ since then

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>> No.40314002

>>40313951
What ones? I've got Burning Chrome, Count Zero, Johnny Mnemonic, Mona Lisa Overdrive, Neuromancer, Pattern Recognition, Spook Country, The Difference Engine, and Zero History.

>> No.40314013

>Browsing steam
>Some shadowrun games are on sale
>Play through them
>Immediately after read Neuromancer
I need to consume more cyberpunk media now.

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>>40313993
dubiously cyberpunk but it sure is fucking weird

>> No.40314016

>>40313933
Check out Jodorowsky's Dune on netflix NOW! It's about the greatest movie never made. He was going to make Dune and hand picked everyone, all this up and coming artists like HG Giger. It went on to be a major influence behind Alien and Star Wars and he went on and took these ideas and made comics.

>> No.40314030

>>40314002
I think it was those exactly. Did you get them from a Mega folder, or by chance the Shadowrun general's mediafire (which got them from said Mega folder?)

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>> No.40314056

>>40314013
Syndicate? SiN? System Shock? I'm sure I've got some others, but I can't remember them right now.

>> No.40314080

>>40314016
There was stuff on Dune, but it was on the topic of Worldbuilding, and they only talked about the novel.

>>40314030
Can't remember. Probably /srg/.

>> No.40314081

>>40313273
The original Spider-Man 2099 did a pretty interesting look at religion in a cyberpunk setting. Of course said cyberpunk setting was also dealing with the influence of previously existing superheroes, but it's still a pretty well done cyberpunk setting.

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>>40314030
>the Shadowrun general's mediafire
Wait, are they in there?

>> No.40314113

>>40314056
Hard Reset's another good one.

>> No.40314146

>>40314089
Rulebooks/Gibson Books

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>>40313815
>and we already live in the cyberpunk future anyway
This is so fucking true, out of all the futures we chose this was the one we wanted.

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>>40314045
Using .gifs as ambiance is an art form only Tumblr understands

>>40314013
Cryptonomicon
The Ware tetralogy
Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?
And one hardly-known one called Bad Voltage, by Jonathan Littel.

>>40314089
They totally are. Somebody organized my clusterfuck Shadowrun gaming folder, filled in the gaps, took out a couple of philosophy texts, and neatly put the Gibson novels in their own folder on the side.

>> No.40314155

Free Fall, a novel set in FFG's android universe, if anyone wants it

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>>40314146
Thanks

>>40314153
the guy who hosts now?

>> No.40314201

>>40314153
Gonna read it all.

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>>40314177
>>40314177

>>40314148
Do you also have that picture of the bizarre-looking Chinese building with the Blade Runneresque projection down its side?

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>>40314205
No idea what this was ever concept art for, but it's pretty cool.

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>> No.40314263

I'm working on some cyberpunk worldbuilding right now, was looking for some input

So, it's safe to assume that in the dystopian cyberpunk future, with the governments having no authority over the corps anymore Net Neutrality is a thing of the past. I'm trying to conceptualize what the internet looks like in a world with "Internet Access Packages" and subscription packages for specific sites and shit. How does this impact "online culture?" Would it be possible to have social media sites as ubiquitous as Facebook or YouTube are today in an internet that's segmented by corporate control?

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>>40314232

>>40314199
Not sure, I had a bit of a hiatus and when I came back I noticed the pastebin had a much more organized folder with all the stuff in it. I still recognized what I'd uploaded, and partially because of the random Gibson novels in .mobi.

>> No.40314291

>>40314263
I'd imagine that the corps would make social media unavailable to the poor as a way to segregate consumers. Why waste time advertising stuff to people with no money?

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>>40314205
This maybe?

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>>40314263
>Net Neutrality
I'm aware this is an issue, but I have no idea what it is (non-US here) can you give me a summary that can be understood in the early hours of the morning?

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>>40314268

>>40314263
Honestly just read the scare-essays written by pro-net-neutrality activists and it'll be a pretty decent starter. For the punks' sake, you'll probably want underground networks and piracy of the fiber lines to be a thing, so that weirdo websites can still exist, if with a ton of effort.

>>40314291
Because by keeping the poor in their habits, buying expensive food, drinking liquor, smoking cigarettes, buying internet subscriptions and social-media Premium packages, you keep them poor and keep them feeding the machine. Which is intensely cyberpunk, but also something that's been going on for decades. For what that's worth.

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>>40314291
That would be dumb. That's how you keep people poor, make them buy things they don't need.

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>>40314342
No, this.

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>> No.40314412

>>40314355
By poor I don't mean working class or even people on welfare, I mean people with legitimately no money, homeless people and the like, which I assume would be more abundant in a world with no real government to provide welfare.

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>>40314400
Damn.

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>>40314355

>>40314412
Well, even the homeless buy things. Besides, they might not be homeless in ten years, and they'd regret having skipped out on all that buildup of familiarity, memory, and brand recognition.

>> No.40314470

>>40314343
The net right now is 'neutral', all access is the same

Lack of net neutrality would let companies slow your connection to sites they don't want you to use too much, like, say, free-streaming sites instead of their paid service

>> No.40314476

>>40314400
Damn, that's a new one. I feel sorry for them, that's just depressing.

>>40314412
Do homeless people even have that now?

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>>40314465

>>40314476
I love it so much. I especially love that in a twist, just to prove Gibson wrong, it happened in China rather than Japan.

>> No.40314516

>>40314496
I think this is from the Mead artbook posted earlier but I can't remember. Seriously, get that. It's amazing.

>> No.40314528

>>40314496
It's funny because he explicitly stated it happening in Japan INSTEAD of China several times.

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>>40314516
Whoops, missed the pic. I wasn't talking about the one I replied to.

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>>40314536

>> No.40314560

>>40314465
>they might not be homeless in ten years
How would they accomplish that? Below a certain class there's pretty much 0 social mobility possible in a cyberpunk setting isn't there?

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>>40314496
>>40314528
>Gibson
Am I missing something?

>> No.40314569

>>40313506
The problem with that, and a lot of speculative fiction has the same problem, is that nothing is stopping the Church from hiring their own marketing and PR team. Churches already do that. Especially non-denominational and churches centered around a single or small group of central preachers. You don't build a mega-church bigger than a football stadium without decent marketing.

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>>40314470
My internet won't connect to certain sites, and I know there are things on american sites that won't work here, but this would be the deliberate slowing of service?

How is that different than just selling you faster/slower internet though?

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>>40314555

>>40314560
Dumb luck. Case was homeless for a while, in Neuromancer.

>>40314569
Eh, I wasn't saying that churches wouldn't have marketing, just that the corporations would have better marketing.

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>>40314613

>> No.40314641

>>40313815
>>40313826
I understand that, but when paired next to more fantastical images they clash pretty badly. Compare >>40313457, which is just a school hallway with a filter on it, to >>40313617, which is some kind of club or gallery. The second one doesn't look out of place while the first one stands out.

>> No.40314649

>>40314613
>Case was homeless for a while, in Neuromancer
But he had a viable skillset and a reputation. Aside from randomly being selected for, and surviving, some random experiment or product test by megacorps I can't see the average bum advancing anywhere.

>> No.40314654

>>40314589
That's... fuck, what's it's called again
Region-lock?
It's a slightly different bag of stupid shit

Your faster/slower internet would apply to all sites, lack of net neutrality would be more like TV bundles for top sites
"Family Pack: get 10mb/s on facebook and youtube, 1mb/s elsewhere. Only 39.99!"

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>>40314633

>>40314641
Well it's not an art project, I just happen to use all of these images for cyberpunk inspiration.

>> No.40314689

>>40314589
>>40314654
The only problem with this prediction I see is that free to view porn based corporations would probably dominate the "elsewhere" internet services and make a pretty penny.

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>>40314686

>>40314689
I'd expect the larger free pornsites would have arrangements with the ISPs, just like Netflix and Google.

>> No.40314746

>>40314654
Ah, that makes sense, though I'm not seeing anything too bad - you pay extra to go fast on premium sites, those sites pay to become premium, advertisers pay more to advertise on premium sites.

It doesn't seem particularly bad, unless they block sites totally unless you pay?

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>>40314737

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>>40314760

>>40314746
It'd give the largest corporations a huge advantage in the Internet market, and allow for them to use more predatory business tactics to flush out any free services or smaller companies that compete with their business model.

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>>40314802

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>>40314823

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>>40314837

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>>40314856

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>>40314802
>free services
What free services?

But yeah, that makes sense as a form of monopoly restriction, though it seems oddly restrictive - here, at least, data services are fairly competitive with each other, and it's often only through good TV+Internet deals that a company can secure your custom, is it not like that in the 'States?

>> No.40314905

>>40314263
>Would it be possible to have social media sites as ubiquitous as Facebook or YouTube are today in an internet that's segmented by corporate control?

Yes, as they represent a prime market for advertising and content production. Sure, you could make it so that FunCo. customers can only visit FunSpace on their internet service, but then you couldn't advertise to JoyCo. customers, who can only visit MyJoy. What would happen is that non-affiliated sites would have to enter into arrangements with the various providers to allow access.

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>>40314883

>> No.40314919

>>40314746
It's not like corporations do sleazy and shady things all the time. Seriously, the amount of holes and illegal things corporations do is already pretty ridiculous, it's just giving them even more power to abuse.

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>>40314911

>>40314904
Cable companies selling TV+Internet bundles happens here, but it's not really an amazing deal, if that's what you're asking.

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>>40314997
And that seems to be my last cyberpunk interior image.

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>>40314997
No, I'm asking how competitive they are - internet, phone and tv companies are always trying to get you to switch here, offering faster speeds, more channels or lower costs.
Seeing as they can already do that I'm not really seeing what offering faster connections to some sites would do?

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>> No.40315093

>>40314613
Most megachurches are corporations already. Plus I don't think you understand how wealthy the Catholic Church is, in 2012 they spent $170 billion in the USA, during the same year Apple made $150 billion in gross revenue worldwide.

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>> No.40315117

>>40315059
Thanks anon, these are cool.

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>> No.40315131

>>40315108
Is that really a cyberpunk thing? Assuming it's not on another planet, that kind of postage transport was deemed inefficient back in the 50s. And even if it wasn't email and 3D printers would probably eliminate the need to deliver anything, or really transport anything besides people and raw materials.

>> No.40315140

>>40314760
That's located in Ashburn, VA.

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>>40315064
Oh. There's usually two to three competing service providers in any given place, usually one cable provider and one DSL provider plus maybe some more localized ISP. The cable companies are all incestuously cooperative, they never really compete with each other so it's as close to monopoly as you can get there. DSL seems to be run along similar lines, and good VDSL service isn't even available in many locations, though Centurylink is trying their best. ISPs also try their very best to trick or force you into buying as much worthless bullshit as possible with your service, require contractual commitments so that you can't easily or cheaply switch away, and provide mediocre to bad service because they know they can get away with it. The internet communications market in America is fucking terrible, to the point of tragedy.

>>40315093
Oh, definitely. But given the earlier conversation, I think that the Catholic church would be very involved with corporations, certainly not competitive against them. As you said, they're effectively corporate themselves. They feed on the system, they wouldn't go to blows trying to dismantle it. As such they don't really pose a threat to megacorporations.

>>40315131
Eh, orbital space habitation is a thing in some cyberpunk.

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>>40315131
>that kind of postage transport
Those are shipping containers dude.
And no, it's more "future!" than cyberpunk, but spaceX hangers and FedEx having their own rockets seemed cyberpunk enough when I named it

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>>40315178
>ISPs also try their very best to trick or force you into buying as much worthless bullshit as possible with your service, require contractual commitments so that you can't easily or cheaply switch away, and provide mediocre to bad service because they know they can get away with it.
Yeah, that's pretty standard.

I don't know about the types of connections, but here the companies seem fairly competitive with each other, not so incestuous, though the prices are all fairly close, so maybe I'm not looking hard enough

>> No.40315381

>>40315178
Not the mainstream/large churches anyways. I could see a bunch of smaller, independent churches working heavily with anti-corp groups.

That being said, next time I get to play a cyberpunk game I'm making a street paladin. Protecting the righteous, punishing the wicked, and shepherding the flock with nothing but a bible, handful of stimms, mild amphetamine psychosis, and a four foot piece of pipe.

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>> No.40315637

>>40315591
That woman has no eyes.

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>>40315637
See how cyberpunk she is?

>> No.40315711

>>40314560
Most people are homeless only for short periods of time, most often because their current housing becomes unviable and they can't immediately find a new place to live. I don't see why that shouldn't be even more common in a cyberpunk future.

>> No.40315715

>>40311969
so it was a bad documentary then.

>> No.40315731

>>40315691
I didn't think F.E.A.R. was that cyberpunk.

>> No.40315748

>>40313357
In the far-flung future, you still cannot run from the epic maymays. Come to Meme-Land today!

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>>40315647
Is the movie any good?
I'd never call Judge Dredd cyberpunk, but it's got some damn cool elements - those big towers and the Lawgiver are pretty cool

>> No.40315775

>>40315711
>Most people are only homeless for short periods of time
I mean bums. The kind who are homeless long enough to have a regular corner they're seen begging at. Also assuming they aren't from a rich family, the mentally ill in a cyberpunk future would be much more likely to end up this way.

>> No.40315796

>>40315637
>your eyes will never blow out after shooting up bad neo-caine in the bathroom of an illegal club

>> No.40315812
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>>40315748
Someone always points this out

>> No.40315833

>>40315766
The 2012 one is amazing, you should see it ASAP. Also Mega City One from certain perspectives can seem pretty cyberpunk, but once you get to anything involving the judges, which is almost everything, it immediately ceases to be. Other Mega Cities could be though.

>> No.40315839

>>40314232
Otaku of the future

>> No.40315847

>>40315766
Yes, the new film is fantastic, if a very focused. And Dredd isn't strictly cyberpunk, but it has a lot of the elements one would expect to find in cyberpunk, if from a different perspective.

>> No.40315865

>>40315748
http://www.warehouse23.com/media/SJG30-6712_preview.pdf

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>>40315731
Well, it was about a high tech corporation trying to take over the world.

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>>40315796
>Get cybereyes today, in just 10 easy payments
Zeiss Ikon eyes 50% off

>> No.40315910

>>40315833
It didn't start out cyberpunk, it was mostly built around 70s dystopic scifi, but has since become very cyberpunk. It's just that you see everything from the view of what would normally be the faceless goons.

>> No.40315937

Is it still cyberpunk if it's biopunk?

Also, I'm going to be doing some hardcore editting on my cyberpunk novel. Talking like, six hours a day.

I need some tunes, recommendations? Other than Daft Punk.

>> No.40315953

>>40315893
>Cybernetics are the symptom of societal decay written on our very flesh! Reject robotics! Pure humans for a pure future!

>> No.40315960

>>40315937
Hoh boy, that's my area of expertise.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYZv16PGUsQ

Firstly, what do you think of this? I'll kinda tailor my recommendations to your reactions.

>> No.40315972

>>40315731
But that animation is cyberpunk

>> No.40315976

>>40315910
>It didn't start out cyberpunk
It always had mega-corporations feeding on a populace that was becoming more impotent, but other than that yeah it was pretty far from Cyberpunk. That said a lot of elements from Mega-City One could be pretty awesome in Cyberpunk settings, like City-Blocks or insane hobbies like fatty sports.

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>>40315953
Hey man, fuck you.

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>>40315937
Com Truise, that's some great cyberpunk tracts.

>> No.40316010

>>40315937
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5G2Ik3dtfY
All I can think of is this and the Batman Beyond OST.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3QgS93ecas

>> No.40316011

>>40315937
It can be, but it depends on a lot of factors whether or not it is still cyberpunk.

Also, Perturbator.

>> No.40316028
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>> No.40316038

>>40313273
Shadowrun has that weird Jonestown church that turns people into bugs.

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>> No.40316050

>>40315960
I'm going to listen to this again with better ear buds

But fairly jamming if a bit slow and well, homogenous. Enjoyable but unevocative.

A helpful response?

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>>40315937
>cyberpunk novel
Can we get a sample?

>> No.40316056

>>40315996
No, no. Robot waifus are perfectly fine, just don't get an input jack installed in your nervous system to share sensations when you're with her. It's an abomination unto the human form and really, really creepy.

>> No.40316065

>>40315937
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNhqTfsQ7ps
How about this?

>> No.40316076

>>40316050
Yeah.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBon00jon10

Still more 80's inspired, but with a much more cinematic overtone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FGh67uNElE
A bit more modern, but dark enough, and electronic in a gritty punky way.

>> No.40316078

>>40316056
Hey man, my character in the last cyberpunk game I played ended up with two heads, six direct jacks, and built-in wireless.

>> No.40316090

>>40315865
Hah, Steve Jackson is still around. Cool :)

>> No.40316091
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>>40315937
I always like this, especially if you actually listen to the lyrics https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlUKcNNmywk

>> No.40316120
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>>40315937
Some random stuff I enjoy (tastes, etc).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NS6IUp89tYw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUn9SYdPF4A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QbqeVt-lOg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fe--_qzz0MU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XM5TnQCHX8w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxB6CUWkprs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WWsSWarFI4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3TrjEuXuNw

>> No.40316132

>>40316028
>OH MY GOD A BOMB

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NG1qKzIsisU

>> No.40316189

>>40311907
>The community is terrible and the people who use it are shitty
He said on 4chan.

>> No.40316194

>>40316120
>Syndicate 2012
I really liked that game. Shame they went with such an obvious 'twist'.

>> No.40316197

>>40316051
I've posted it in these threads before, couple months ago before I'd finished it.

Tell you what, I'll post the first three chapters or so. And then update it after my editing binge, see if someone is willing to critique my editing ability.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OTEWLNEriUQ4IxCeZxg1qBPSzZboeVPy_WfvmUdLGNY/edit?usp=sharing

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>>40316056
>Reject robotics!
> Robot waifus are perfectly fine
Double fuck you, you luddite hypocrite!

>> No.40316204

>>40313072
Cyberpunk is just noir set in the future.

>> No.40316223

>>40316197
Have I been missing them or have there just not been Wednesday writefag threads lately?

>> No.40316225

>>40316120
>>40316194
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDDC1A2F8E6F4BA1F
The Syndicate 2012 soundtrack.

>> No.40316236

>>40316223
I'm a NEET here all day every day and haven't seen them. There's been writing threads, but like micro flash fiction type stuff which just isn't the same.

>> No.40316264

>>40316076
Both good in their own right, but I'm leaning towards the first one more. The tone matches what I need to be editing better.

>> No.40316272

>>40316236
What happened? They weren't exactly thriving before but they were doing fine and had a decent amount of regulars? Did the guy who regularly starts them just disappear and no one did it in his place or something?

>> No.40316274

>>40316225
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6B82l5Mk4bg&list=PLDDC1A2F8E6F4BA1F&index=3
The lyrics for this are 'Syndicate Classical Franchise Persuader Happy Minigun'.

>> No.40316284

>>40316272
You say it was regulars, but it was like the homebrew thread. Everyone eager to talk about their own shit but nobody talking about other's stuff. It stagnated and we quit.

>> No.40316305

>>40315670
This is fucking horrifying.

>> No.40316313

>>40316199
You wouldn't slap an intestine on a robot waifu would you? So why do you think it's okay to get a robot arm?

>> No.40316318

>>40316264

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypVVbJqxmEs

And, a little longer a shot but the tone is perfect, if the music is harder for most people to get into:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIRkynUQ3RE

>> No.40316334
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>>40316313
Because flesh is weak and metal is strong!

>> No.40316343

>>40316284
There were a decent amount of people talking about others stuff when they posted actual .pdfs, and I find it weird that like 30 people all quit so fast. Hell all I did in them was talk about other people's shit, I never had the balls to post my own.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0iaZrPgvuk

>> No.40316491

>>40316374
>Shaved head
Atrocious. Why do people do this to themselves?

>> No.40316516

>>40316491
because it's soul-rendingly attractive

>> No.40316544

>>40316491
Shaved heads can work. Shaved eyebrows is pretty fucking gross though, especially with that make up.

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>>40316491
I for one think she's cute.

>> No.40316577

>>40316544
>>40316491
I'd still give her head until my tongue falls off, so judge me.

>> No.40316592

>>40316544
When someone shaves their eyebrows they become Pink Floyd from The Wall movie.

>> No.40317048

>>40316491
hides balding
can do it yourself to save money
easy to manage
nice and cool
cant get caught on anything
cant be grabbed

source: army

>> No.40317057

>>40317048
Also black people can do it surprisingly well.

>> No.40317068
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https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLHUNXcu6Fmh2eiYhedN4EVMTBMXlVyg_o

Couple of playlists
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJvSwusYd4QapYEZ9Mslxt7S0cHTUnSrq

>> No.40317311

Also, is anyone else excited about this?

http://johnsonting.deviantart.com/art/NEO-JAPAN-2202-THE-BOOK-451504273

>> No.40317538

>Trying to edit
>Not finding anything major worth changing yet

Not good.

>> No.40317548

>>40317538
Obviously you're not editing hard enough.

>> No.40317559

>>40317538
What are you trying to change about it? If you're just doing normal final draft editing, then there's nothing to minor, you've gotta be thorough with that shit.

>> No.40317578

>>40317559
I'm trying to clean up the flow of my sentences, fix continuity errors for things I figured out later in the book and needed to integrate earlier, shore up the characterizations that were really janky when I started but smoothed out as I went, and basically just make it better.

I"m kind of aimless and bad at this, aren't I?

>> No.40317594

>>40317578
If you're trying to shore up characterization and continuity it may be better to just rewrite the first few chapters rather than go through them and fix the errors.

>> No.40318454

Okay guys, I need the most sexual opera song you can name. It's been too long for me to remember them.

Yes this is cyberpunk related. Technically.

>> No.40318487

>>40316491
Because you have shit taste and the world lives to spite you.

>> No.40318845

>>40318454
Disregard, I'm going with Carmen - Habenera

>> No.40318846

So what kinda system is CP2020? What's shit and what good in it?
What kinda place is the world in it? Anything like in neuromancer and count zero?

>> No.40318859

Anyone have a link to that William Gibson compilation of short stories? I think Burning Chrome was at the top. I lost it without reading because I'm a fucking pleb.

>> No.40318950

>>40318859
It's further up in the thread, but I can't be bothered to look for it and neither can you.

http://www.american-buddha.com/burnchrome.htm

>> No.40318974

>>40318950
>http://www.american-buddha.com/burnchrome.htm
A+ anon, you have my thanks.

>> No.40318992

>>40318846
It's 1D10 roll-over.

Settingwise, I've seen it written that CP2013 (the predecessor) and Gibson's work codified cyberpunk. It's a sort of post-apocalypse where there are orbital boulder drivers, Europe is called 'Fortress Europe' and is full of politicking, and America is Blade Runner in the cities and Mad Max outside of them.

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>>40318846
>what good in it?
Primarily the wonderful 80s 'punk atmosphere.

>> No.40319051

>>40318992
And, if you can stomach TVTropes, here it is in handy simplified pieces.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/TabletopGame/Cyberpunk

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Cyberpunk 2013/2020 pdfs

https://www.mediafire.com/folder/3e9kde94ekwl7/Cyberpunk_2020

>> No.40319127

>>40319068
That's missing Firestorm: Shockwave, the other half of the 4th Corp War.

>> No.40319148

What systems do people use for their cyberpunk? Personally I'm inclined to use GURPS Cyberpunk, unless I need something like Shadowrun's Essence system or CP2020's special skill things for each role.

>> No.40319236

>>40318950
>The Belonging Kind
What the actual fuck did I just read

>> No.40319238

>>40313241
I like it, reminds me of Kowloon Walled City

>> No.40319246

>>40319236
I remember that one. I was equally confused.

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>>40319127
Not anymore

>> No.40319288

>>40319275
PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY
PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY

>> No.40319317

>>40314016
> It's about the greatest movie never made.
Eh, I'd say that's debatable. Jodorowsky makes art-movies that are batshit insane and he does literally say he wants to rape the source material (but with love), so I'm not so sure how his style would lend to sci-fi epics. But on the other hand, it would've been a visual masterpiece. Especially if he would've been able to pull off that continuous zoom shot going into the galaxy.

>> No.40319395

Only 4 more years till CP2077!

>> No.40319407

>>40319395
If you say so Mr Pondsmith!

>> No.40319450

>>40319407
CDPR said no news until 2017, and they tend to start putting out news about 2 years before release.

>> No.40319625

>>40319288

BULLETS ARE THE BEAUTY AND I DON'T KNOW WHY
BULLETS ARE THE BEAUTY AND I DON'T KNOW WHY

>> No.40320739

>>40318992
Ok, what about the classes and how they work?

>>40319068
Thanks anon.

>> No.40322456

>>40312090
Outstanding, 5-star post. Thanks.

>> No.40322629

>>40313273
"Petra" by Greg Bear kind of touches on it

>> No.40322784

>>40318846
I heard that netrunning sucks in it.

>> No.40322892

>>40313273
Infinity's world has the Catholic Church reunified and one of the primary lobbies of the PanOceanian government. The Church has a monopoly on resurrection tech and revived its militant arm with its own private army used in conjunction with State forces.

>> No.40322972

Anyone got CP2020 art?
They look so beautiful.

>> No.40323808

>>40311835
>Cyberpunk thread

When was the last time you went outside? We're LIVING in cyberpunk.

>> No.40323853

>>40323808
>When was the last time you went outside?
>on /tg/
Guess. Half of us are probably on 80's hardware right now

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>>40323853
Shit, how did you know?
Did you hack me?

>> No.40324628

>>40324428
Why wouldn't I?

>> No.40324764

>>40324628
You fucked up this time, buddy.
I'm dispatching a Crisis Team to your location now.
Hope you got good life insurance.

>> No.40324838

>>40324764
>thinking I didn't proxy my proxy
>thinking I'm not still in the matrix
>thinking I didn't reroute that Crisis Team
No, buddy. You fucked up

>> No.40324872

>>40324838
>baited into Swatting yourself

Totally using that.

>> No.40324924

>>40324838
>thinking I won't just reroute them straight back at you
Amateur.
Now where did I put those killsat access codes...

>> No.40325082

>>40324924
HEY! That was my trick!
Now you're just cheating

>> No.40325142

Remember: drones aren't punk enough for cyberpunk.

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>>40325082
Say bye bye, punk.

>> No.40325467

>>40325226
>punk
But I have a day jooooooooo.....

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>>40325467
Another one bites the dust.

>> No.40325782

>>40325467
>>40313865

>> No.40325793

>>40325782
Actually that's very accurate

>> No.40326949

Is there any cyberpunk setting that deals with something along the lines of an extreme silicon shortage or some sort of Prohibition/ roaring 1920's theme

>> No.40328854

>>40315131
There are orbital NATION STATES in cyberpunk. I don't see why this couldn't be cyberpunk.

>> No.40328901

>>40315560
I love the aesthetic, such a shame that it would make a terrible gun. Might as well have a pistol with a long magazine.

>> No.40328954

>>40315647
I actually enjoyed that movie a lot.

>> No.40328995

>>40316001
I think he has a song where he straight up quotes Neuromancer.

>> No.40329032

>>40319275
After playing the newest Witcher game, I have re-boarded the hype train for this.

>> No.40329041

>>40317048
Only downside
>Sunburned head if you're a whitey
you tan up quick though and that goes away
Source: I shave my head.

>> No.40329089

>>40328854
Cyberpunk the game, or cyberpunk the genre? Because a genre will often have examples that bring in elements usually outside the genre, those don't in themselves make it part of the genre. I mean, magic isn't cyberpunk just because it's been used in cyberpunk novels and RPGs in the past.

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>>40329089
Well I'll be honest. I've only recently gotten into strictly "cyberpunk" stuff. And after reading Neuromancer (which has orbital cities that govern them selves) I just assumed it was a thing. Then again, the author of Neuromancer didn't even anticipate "cyberpunk" becoming a genre, so space stuff might be out. I'm no expert.

>> No.40329250

>>40329190
Gibson loved space stuff, but it just never became a staple of cyberpunk. His orbital short stories in Burning Chrome are amazing, but perhaps not the most cyberpunk.

>> No.40331698

>>40329250
>>40329190
Blade Runner's usually called a cyberpunk thing and it's heavy on the sci fi. Big problem with the genre cyberpunk is that it's sci fi which means that it bleeds in with the others easily.

>> No.40332336

>>40316197

I like it :) love the body analogy you do for the city

>> No.40332446

>>40332336
I just replaced it with the editted version. You should skim it and tell me if I'm doing enough.

>> No.40332853

>>40329190
Red Star Winter Orbit was all about living on a space station, and was written by gibson and sterling. If that doesn't make it a staple of cyberpunk nothing will

>> No.40336717

I'm going to bump this thread, and also direct you guys to this cyberpunk world building thread >>40307951

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