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Nightly m/tg/ flavor thread strikes yet again.

Tonight's topic: Favorite creatures, purely flavor-wise.
>pic related

>> No.31791079
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>>31790592
Obviously doesn't count as a character, but I've always been a Golgari man myself. I'd like Damia too if she had any lore to go with her.

>> No.31791151
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>>31791079
I'm actually a Dimir bro.
I just really like mai qt crippled waifu

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>>31790592
There was a frustrating moment where one man's assumptions were printed as fact in the wiki, and everyone assumed she was this over-zealous fanatic bent on more on violence than protection.

Yet in both of her stories, featuring that bro Gideon, she is revealed as a passionate but goodwilled leader (with some affection for everyone's favorite Sural wielder). I'm still worried about what happened to Feather, but Aurelia has been written as a very reasonable Guild Leader.

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>>31790592
He doesn't want to eat you, he doesn't even want to kill you, he just wants you to take a look at his wares.

>> No.31791285

Nine-minus-half-tails is boss.

>> No.31791298

>chipstrap

What a douche

>> No.31791329

>>31791264
>Happy Merchant of Asphodel.jpg
Could you imagine a world where the jews don't stay dead and return back to continue collecting shekels for more gold masks? What could /pol/ even do in a world such as this?

>> No.31791350

>>31791329
Probably commit collective suicide.

>> No.31791365

>>31791329
The same thing they always do: continue shitposting

>> No.31791630
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>>31791195
Hell, Aurelia doesn't seem to be any more zealous than Razia was, and no one gives her shit for being Guild leader

>> No.31792079

>>31791630
I know she isn't, but someone went crazy on the wiki sayings that her overzealous nature was driving Gideon to side with the Gateless, etc. etc. when actually Gideon wants to make little baby redheads with her, but he can't because the Eldrazi won't let him.

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>>31792079
New headcanon: Gideon has a redhead fetish

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>>31792159
>new
You didn't know that? He spent two blocks chasing Chandra despite having no reason to like her, then get's immediately side-tracked by the perdy Aurelia and the massive harem of hundreds of redheaded Aurelia-clones that are Ravnica angels.

This is a man with taste.

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>>31792212
And on topic of Ravnican angels, this card still pisses me off. On Rav, there are only two kinds of angels: Orzhov angels, made by the Deathpact, and the Boros angels. Razia was the only angel on Ravnica until she made a legion of identical clones, one of which was Feather. After Razia was killed and all the angels were killed (bar Feather), Feather became leader and made a new legion of angel clones identical to her (thus, identical to Razia as well). So all non-Orzhov angels on Ravnica are redheads, physically identical to each other, according to canon.

So who the fuck is this?

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>>31792299
Even the Gateless angels are just Boros angels that went rogue and joined their movement. Still redheads, mind you, but they put on some facepaint to differentiate themselves.

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Not a creature per say, but I liked the depiction of blue wizards and spirits in Kamigawa. The pursuit of knowledge - or going mad in the process - is a really cool concept

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>>31792629
Oh yeah, and this little guy's flavor text is great. Dominarian wizards must be some tough shit by now

>> No.31792726

>>31792705

Then he gets lost in Ravnica.

>> No.31792975

>>31791151
>>31790592
I've seen alot of her lately what's her story?

>> No.31793108

>>31792299
>Orzhov angels, made by the Deathpact
Is there an article on wizards.com that talks about this? I built an Orzhov angel deck not long ago that uses a deathpact waifu and was curious about the flavor (short of buying the books)

>> No.31793141

>>31793108
There's a little lore story. http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/ur/240

>> No.31793152

>>31792975
One of /tg/'s waifu obsessions.

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>>31792975
Her and this guy were the main characters of the old Ravnica block, Teysa over there is the highest ranking living member of the Orzhov Syndicate, with a lot of members actually following her instead of the Ghost Council nowadays. In the old block, she and Agrus when on a big adventure dealing with all the different guilds bullshit and messing up the secret plans that half of them had, and in new Ravnica, she's just kinda there, doing her own thing because they have Planeswalkers do all the important shit nowadays.

>> No.31793210

>>31793141
Thanks anon!

>> No.31793479

OK. Here's an original discussion topic.

If you could be any type of creature (not a 'walker) in the Multiverse, on any plane, what and where would you be?

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>>31793479
Auriok. In a heartbeat. And even though it's from the wrong set, I'd do my damnedest to learn Aurification.

>> No.31793723

>>31793479
Shapeshifter, I think. Why choose one creature when I can be any?
I'm not sure where I'd want to be, though. Ravnica is most like modernity but kind of shit to live in otherwise for most. Lorwyn is pleasant but quickly becomes 2spooky after nightfall.
Dammit, literally everywhere else is also a shithole. Ravnica, I guess.

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>>31793723
Meant to attach a picture so I'm going to do so anyway.

>> No.31793944

>>31792299

>implying magic hair die doesn't exist.

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>>31793944
>also dyes her wings to all-white
To what end? The actual theory is that that is Feather post-explosion, but her lack of "Legendary" status seems to disprove it.

>> No.31794069

>>31793981

Why the fuck not?

... also how the fuck do angels work if you can clone them.

I can handle Sorin doing crazy shit to make a gothic angel to keep his hometown in line, but what exactly is the process that makes angels in such a way that they are called "clones".

>> No.31794119

>>31790592

She's got a bitchin' cane.

>> No.31794140

>>31794119
Niggas best respect Teysa's Pimpcane.

>> No.31794177
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So I was scanning the MTG Salvation for information about angels, since we're talking about them, and saw this:
>In the Shard of Alara called Bant, there are angels who are thought to be ultimate representations of its society's ideals. It is commonly believed that a noble life and death will lead a person to be reborn as one.
>a noble life and death will lead a person to be reborn as one.
>Angels are all female
Would /tg/ lead a life of virtue and honor and die a glorious death in battle in hopes of being reincarnated as a qt3.14 angel?

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>>31794069
The Parun sayeth: "Let there be hot bitches with red hair, bouncy tits, and round asses."

>> No.31794259

>>31794069
Angels are asexual, and reproduce by mitosis of course. How else does a one-gendered mono-species come about?

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>>31794177
Why bother when I can become a qt3.14 vampire instead?

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>>31794345
qt Sorin vs. qt Gideon. A match for the ages.

>> No.31794586

>>31794345
So becoming a woman also turns a reasonable man into a filthy whore? Tibalt please

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>>31794565
qt Sorin vs. qt Gideon vs. qt Jace

Where is your god now?

>> No.31794636

>>31791151
crippled?

>> No.31794652
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>>31794607
>where is your god now?
Doing her thing on Theros. :3

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>>31793161
>Planeswalkers do all the important shit nowadays.

>we could've had Teysa taking control of the Orzhov
>we could've had the Rakdos, Dimir, Boros, Gruul, Azorious, or even Selesnya each believably trigger the Supreme Verdict at the end of the Maze for their own reasons
>we could've had the Supreme Verdict destroy a critical part of the Ravnican city
>we could've had the guildless become a real force after that, growing huge compared to the now damaged guilds, and the consequences of all the guild's actions

>we got Jace being a goddamn retard and still fixing everything

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>>31794636
Her leg is bum. She walks with a cane. Not that it's ever come up in art. Looks fine here, even if she sits like a teenager.

>> No.31794732

>>31794678
I hope she has a cane blade in that thing. Also is there a reason she switched from black garb to the white?

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>>31794732
>Also is there a reason she switched from black garb to the white for a different day?
Yes, she's a woman, and her wardrobe has dozens of different outfits.

>> No.31794768

>>31794732
No particular reason. You change your clothes, right? Just a new set, a new design for her, a new outfit.

Speaking of her bad leg, why did they make the limped on the Maze Runner? Long walks would be a chore for someone who's leg barely holds her up. Let alone a fucking obstacle labyrinth.

>> No.31794806

>>31794768

Wasn't her being chosen some kind of ploy against her by the Obzedat Council?

>> No.31794814

>>31794657
Yup, you understand my feels exactly. I do, however, think it's interesting how creatures becoming more useful than instants and sorceries in general matches with the weakening of planeswalkers. I just wish the walker weakening wasn't explicitly done to make Generic McProtag into the face of magic.

>>31794806
Yeah, the Council really hates that Teysa managed to sorta make her own power structure within Orzhov, and they don't want to attempt to remover her by force because it's too risky, so they look for more subtle ways of eliminating her.

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>>31794768
Tajic carried her.

>> No.31794852

>>31794768
She had an army willing to carry her if she so wished it. The maze was about more then just an obstacle course, you had to fight the other guilds as well. Whos better to fight then a master at diplomacy and tactics?

>> No.31794942

Anyone else wanna see more New Phyrexia? Though I heard they did some retardo shit where the White Phyrexians killed off all the red/blue ones and established complete dominance. Kind of kills some of the conflict they had going.

>> No.31794965

I guess it's stretching it a bit, but my favorite creatures are a toss up between Slivers, and the Thran, I wish there was more lore on both.

>> No.31794971

>>31794942
Red and black, actually, because enemy colors. And I think only their Praetors have been killed/deposed.

>> No.31794973

>>31794814
Oh, wait, no, I remembered that wrong.

>>31794852
was actually right, the Ghost Council sent Teysa because she was their best chance at getting whatever was in the Maze, it was actually Teysa who wanted to use the Maze as a chance to destroy the Obzedat.

>> No.31794998

>>31794942
White beat them and made them swear fealty, they did not genocide them. Also, the praetors got nuked by Koth and Elspeth, right before she high tailed it to Theros and Koth died which was just a setback, since he's coming back as a Phyrexianized pwalker.

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>> No.31795038

>>31794806
Basically, Obzedat thought sending Teysa would be a win-win situation.

If she lost, she'd be dead, and another thorn off Obzedat's side

If she won, Obzedat would get the price at the end. Teysa probably had her own plans though. Of course, price wasn't what anyone expected.

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>>31790592
"The world is already run by all manner of machines. One day, they'll remind us of that fact."

>> No.31795104

>>31794657
>>31794806
>>31794814
>>31794973
>>31795038

If we had actually gotten some proper story on Teysa's attempts against Obzedat, how do you think it would have gone? She have a chance of beating them?

>> No.31795115

>>31794652
You mean dying, right?

>> No.31795143

>>31794826
>Tajic looking annoyed
>not fully erect and with a smile on his face

Disgusting

>> No.31795165

>>31794942
Big E wanted complete control and to ascend to godhood. So she set about killing the other praetors and absorbing their connection to their mana and thus their power and gaining their minions. She killed 2 before Koth mind nuked her, its speculated though that she survived. If she did she will likely kill the remaining 2 praetors with time and be a pentacolor god. Which would be terrifying since one of the reasons Phyrexia doesn't rape everything is the in fighting, if all of Phyrexia followed one being again like Old Phyrexia shit would be fucked everywhere.

>> No.31795188

>>31795012
Beautiful. No matter how useless the actual card is, I really adore that creature.

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>>31790592
>Favorite creatures, purely flavor-wise.
no contest

>> No.31795197

>>31795143
Yeah, honestly. I mean, I'd be fully erect.

>> No.31795203

>>31795165
If united phyrexians and Eldrazi fought, who would get their shit slapped?

>> No.31795229
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I want to know more about Rakdos cause Exava's got a thick ass, damn. Also because I really like the Rakdos, I just feel the side of them I like isn't shown much. As much as they love being the Raiders from Fallout, they were not all evil all the time. Being performers and artists, a lot of them did tricks and shows for people where no one died or got hurt
I want to see more of that. I want to see some scary ass Devil-Clown doing tricks and entertaining children, juggling dangerous knives, all the parents ready to run at a moments notice, but the whole show goes off without anything more than serious stress on the standbyers.

I like to imagine that on the surface, the Rakdos can be a fun time, if you're willing to get a little scared and a little risky. But nothing that will maim you or have you murdering people for a laugh. Just some rowdy shit that ends up being a good time. And all the demon and devil and REALLY depraved shit is down in the underground. That not all Rakdos are apart of it, but there's some serious danger if you walk into the wrong crowd, or talk to the wrong people in the corner of a Rakdos club.

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>>31795115
Someone is dying alright, but not my waifu.

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>>31795165
>pentacolor

b-buh my pure, white waifu

>> No.31795238

>>31795203
It would depend on if they could learn colorless magics. If not ELdrazi would just slowly eat all the colored mana.

>> No.31795264

>>31795104
Yup, totally. And
>>31794826
this image actually comes from the fact that Teysa recruited Tajic in trying to destroy the council (Here's the article where that happens http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/ur/242 too bad that's the last we hear of this plot thread). She also has direct contact with several of the other guilds leaders, her conversations with them are flavor test on new Ravnica cards. She could totally take out the Ghost Council.

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>>31790592
>Omnath is said to be the divine manifestation of the ferocious mana of Zendikar, a being that can be found in some incarnation in many creation myths of the plane. Some call Omnath the "flickering heart," the origin of the primal mana that pulses throughout Zendikar. Despite the uncertainty of Omnath's actual existence,

>Well A, we as players know he exists
>B - divine manifestation of the ferocious mana of Zendikar
>There is ONLY "ferocious" mana on zendikar. We were told this through ever step in Zendikar.
>Omnath is the incarnation of all mana on Zendikar

Omnath is Progenitus's equal and technically better since Zendikar is suppose to a one in a million planes that has it's mana juiced up to 11, and Alara is well... just a puzzle pieces.

>Well until he ends up an eldrazi snack, but that's another topic.

>> No.31795272

>>31795238
Well, Phyrexians are pretty good at artifice. That's colorless magic.

>> No.31795291

>>31795230
Whats the problem with that dude becoming a god again? All I know is that all the gods got upset there was a new god around and forced her to go kill him. Sounds pretty weak if you ask me.

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>>31795237
What is this, a waifu for ants?

>> No.31795313

>>31795230
You know she's no longer a walker now right?

>> No.31795319

>>31794768
Thrulls prolly helped her along. Plus she had an arrangement with the Boros maze runner, so I'm sure they kind of watched each others back.

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>>31795229
I completely agree with you. I wish there was more depictions of rakdos like this. Part of why I loved RTR is because they did step up their aesthetic. The new guild symbol and cards like showstopper look amazing.
Although thick as that ass is, Exava looks kinda old and has bad teeth so I'll pass.

>> No.31795347

>>31795272
Not the same Colorless magic goes beyond mana. It draws straight from the Blind Eternities. Its magic is WAY more powerful.

>> No.31795366

>>31795291
Only the slight cases of Xenagos causing mass genocide, tearing down the walls of Nyx so that monsters are bleeding into the world killing humanity in droves, and the whole plane would have collapsed because of him if no one stopped him - and the other gods couldn't do it themselves because something something honor among gods or some other bullshit.

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>>31795300
...and we all know Sheol isn't dead. She's just "hanging out" with Elesh.

>> No.31795406

>>31795344
>>31795229
Agree and disagree to both of you. While I would have liked to see other sides to the Ravnicaian guilds. RTR was a .. little (just a tiny) let down because I really like how original ravnica showed off some every day citizens as well. RTR had some of that, but mostly the civil rebels and they weren't that interesting.

>> No.31795433

>>31795291
He was a cruel dick who was easily bored. A hedonist whose outlet wasn't enough anymore. He didn't become a god to just party, it was about sticking it to the gods in general and his ascension was just making everything chaos. They got upset because he wasn't even trying to fit in with the pantheon and keep things stable, he was bringing the house down. He had to go.

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>>31795344
Old? She doesn't look old to me, just looks stacked. She could bench press you. Also her teeth, that's the just coloring on the whole picture I think.

And yeah, like before when the Rakdos were all demons, all the time, that was lame. Now I like to think of them as a Scare House on Halloween. You enter, you get screamed at, you get shoved and scared, but you know the hosts are all doing this for your entertainment. They don't ACTUALLY wnat to hurt you, just shock you to have some fun. But then you walk out back and accidently walk into some thugs doing heroine in the corner and the situation gets too real. That's how I see the Rakdos. Not super threatening on top, but there's a bad side, a very bad side. plus the idea of some razor-toothed rakdos woman playing with kids is hot???

The redesign was a good step in the right direction, but not quite where I wanted it. It was only implied, but never shown. But then again, only the violent stuff is shown cause it's a game about killing your enemies, so.

>> No.31795441

>>31795399
No shes dead dead, Elesh ate her very existence so she could have the black mana.

>> No.31795450

>>31795229
All guilds exist in layers. That bar on the corner? A Rakdos establishment. All that means is that the liquor has some dodgy sources and there's a devil behind the counter.

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>>31795313
You know that you are going to have to source me on that. And Wizard's writing team is so meh that they wouldn't actually let her remain without a spark for long.

>> No.31795471

>>31795313
You know that's an unconfirmed rumor that was started on /tg/, right?

>> No.31795477

>>31795441
Just like elesh is dead dead cause koth exploded her forever

>> No.31795487

>>31795471
I started that rumor to stir shit up, I'm actually surprised its still going around.

>> No.31795510

>>31795477
There's a difference between being atomized and having the very concept of you being devoured.

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>>31790592
7th edition of all things had this real subtle war between four Paladin's, West, East, and South, North. Hidden in all of 7th's flavour text.

Not much on it other than the 7th ed cards. No books, no online stories, and no follow up on later cards.

Really wish there was more because it kinda sparks something in me that wants to know more.

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>>31795487
Yew bastard.

>> No.31795543

>>31795313
The second part to the novel hasn't come out yet. I don't know where you're getting this from.

>> No.31795549

>>31795510
The former totally happened and the latter is baseless speculation?

>> No.31795552

>>31795453
the brunette never risked losing her spark you fool
on the side not, Venser's head must have been huge for him to be wearing that fucking mask around (inb4 lewds)

>> No.31795568

>>31795522
Its actually /tg/'s fault since they all believed it with no source and no one asked until around reply 300.

>> No.31795581
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31795581

>>31795552
>that
>Venser's mask
Who's the fool now, friend?

>> No.31795585

>>31795552
That's not Venser's mask, though!

>> No.31795596

>>31795581
>>31795585
What is it, then?

>> No.31795601

>>31795581
still Elspeth never risked to lose her spark, now tell me who's mask that is

>> No.31795606

>>31795441
Yeah... sure buddy.... A creature that switches bodies like you and I switch clothes, and deals in dark deception so deep it would have made Tom Clancy jizz himself, is gonna get dropped by the most predictable and ordered being in New Phyrexia. I'm not buying it.

>> No.31795617

>>31795104
>give out the Obzedat's location, to the Gruul for instance, and monitor
>wipe away the early warnings of the attack
>withdraw her loyal guard stationed around the Obzedat shortly before the front door is bust open
>trigger whatever is capable of stifling the Obzedat's attempt to magically retreat

The ghosts are paste and the Orzhov get a new guildmaster.

>> No.31795623
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31795623

>>31795440
And then to contrast with the normal not-actually-dangerous-ness, the reason all the doors are designed to fit gigantic demons comes up to your circus tent, and Lord Rakdos himself starts complaining that the guy throwing knives at the woman on the wheel isn't aiming right...

>> No.31795629
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31795629

>>31795596
I dunno. Some dead thing? That's not Venser though.

>> No.31795646

>>31795601
Obviously belonged to a Mirran who got offed in the kinda one-sided war with Phyrexia.

>> No.31795669

>>31795623
Then the mood changes, the audiences starts sweating, and things get fucked up. "Special" performers come out to liven up the show, and many die before they're able to squeeze the crowd out of the building in a panic. A Rakdos show gone wrong, always a chance you take when you visit the circus

>> No.31795671

>>31795596
>>31795601
Some Mirran she must "bore the remembrance of." Read the card, m8.

>> No.31795678

>>31795646
I still can't believe that there were people who expected the Mirrans to win.

>> No.31795690

>>31795450
I can imagine most of the devils being more "normal" than the humans on Ravnica.

>> No.31795691

>>31794177

Hell, look at Call to Serve from Innistrad; it's the same thing.

My personal explanation for the Innistrad thing is that while it's an honor to be asked to serve more fully, you aren't actually expected to accept immediately: it's a standing offer and if you want it to be your retirement plan, then go for it.

That said, there have been some rookie cathars who do something really heroic and get the offer before the older, more experienced cathars have explained how that whole thing works, and end up accepting without realizing what they're getting into.

>> No.31795695

>>31795678
Well, not everyone expected Phyrexians to have silly plot armor.

>> No.31795697

>>31795617
the ghost are dead, could the Gruul even do anything to them? the Dimir, the Azorious or even the Izzet perhaps could, but out of all the guilds it seems the Grull would be the less effective, they would just get carried away smashing stuff then carry on to the next hood, all the while the ghost remain dead

>> No.31795699

>>31795678
We wanted our fortifications man

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31795704

>>31795514
The paladins were pretty cool.

>> No.31795712
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31795712

>All this Elspeth stuff.

So like... Where is this. Because for the longest time I thought it was just her growing up in grixis where her spark ignited.
But then this is cannon
>Elspeth was born on an unknown plane dominated by Phyrexians.

Ok. Cool. Prior to Alara's Conflux, Prior to Elspeth getting a spark, and prior to her being born.
Mirridon was pure.

So where is this mystery plane that ALSO has another faction of Phyrexians? More Phyrexian vs Phyrexian war later on?

>> No.31795729
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31795729

>>31795669
>>31795623
It's like when you're haning out with a group of friends, but then one friend's extremely sketchy brother comes home with really sketchy people, and sketchier people come looking for those sketchy people demanding something, and suddenly your fun time turns to everyone silently worrying and thinking "I need to get out of here before something goes down". But in the end, the Rakdos are still friendly enough. Just with some really bad ties sometimes.


I'm saying, that your friends represent the good side of the Rakdos. My point is convoluted and stupid.

>> No.31795753

>>31795712
We don't know what her home plane was, but it's been known for awhile that Phyrexians survived on the other worlds they conquered (since, you know, they didn't just spend all those thousands of years only trying to take over Dominaria).

I will say though: There are dozens, probably hundreds, of planes taken over by Phyrexians out there, but they have no means of traveling to other planes.

>> No.31795758

>>31795669
Gone wrong? They pray and hope daily that he'll show up so that they can really show their best stuff. If half the crowd hasn't died, you've not been maimed, and half your performers haven't been killed while involved in a mass orgy of violence, carnality, and sadistic glee that consumed a whole neighborhood, then the show was tame. Who cares if you made some Zinos and entertained the masses? The demon gets off to the extra stuff and that's what you should have been working on in your ring.

>> No.31795778
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31795778

>>31795712
Elspeth was raised on Bant, not Grixis, and yes, it's not her homeland. There was a different plane the Phyrexians took over.

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31795793

>>31795753
Which is weird because old phyrexians totally had plane travel. Not just the planar gate card people keep posting. Like they had LOTS of different was of travel including permanent links from colony world to colony world. Not just their home world.

So like... what up with that?

>> No.31795809

>>31795712
Phyrexia invaded several planes before coming to Dominaria, the degree of the invasion varied, but a backwater plane with mages barely able to light a candle (due to taboo, ignorance, poor mana reserves) would get easily enslave by the vanguard and some scouts and would remain so even after the death of Yawgmoth, with old school Phyrexian thingies ruling over the natives

>> No.31795820

>>31795697
You forgot the Boros, the guild full of angels and paladins of smiting evil, which is exactly who she went to, as I said
>>31795264

>> No.31795834

>>31795793
I'm guessing it's an issue of Phyrexian planar travel now, without Yawgmoth and stuff, being limited to preexisting infrastructure. And they can't get to any non-Phyrexian planes because if they could get to the plane it'd be Phyrexian already.

>> No.31795837

>>31795753
It's not that they spread to those worlds themselves, it's kind of the fault of Karn and others. They inadvertently spread the oil to other planes. Hell, Mirrodin was boned from the day we saw it. There were supposed signs of the Phyrexian invasion from the first go 'round on Mirrodin that were corroborated when Scars came about.

>> No.31795842

>>31795793
Shit got fucked up when their god died, it was all hingent on him. Its why Big E wanted to ascend to god hood so she could lead them forward.

>> No.31795854

>>31795793
not all phyrexians beings are capable of free will, a bunch are barely more than automatons, if such things were left to oversee a plane they will do so until Yawgmoth comes back and tells them otherwise, and that ain't gonna happen

>> No.31795900

>>31795678
They wanted to hope that some of the strongest villains that have ever been seen in the Multiverse and Magic history weren't back to stay. Apparently those hopes were dashed from the gate. Maro wanted Scars to be New Phyrexia from jump and drop hints that it was Mirrodin consumed from within in our absence.

>> No.31795940

>>31795900
>Maro wanted
Actually, no, that was the original plan. Maro's the one who realized that they should do the structure the way they did.

Which, incidentally, fucked some timeline issues six ways from Sunday.

>> No.31795969

>>31795940
I need to listen to that podcast again.

>> No.31795989

Phyrexians use metal as a primary resource, right? I assume an invasion of Jund or Lorwyn might not go as smoothly as it did on Mirrodin?

>> No.31796008

>>31795989
Sort of, there's a quote I'd have to dig up that said something to the effect of they don't make a real distinction between organic and inorganic.

>> No.31796018

>>31795989
>Phyrexian invasion of Lorwyn
>Bitterblossom with infect fairies, but it gives you poison counters

>> No.31796028

>>31793161
That explanation could be a bit better.

Orzhov members listen to Teysa because she basically is in an appointed position to interpret the will of the Obzedat, the actual Guildmasters.

Agrus Kos was the real main character of the Ravnica Block. Teysa didn't even show up until the second book, then played a more minor role in the third.

I was actually really disappointed that when they dropped Guild Champions/Mazerunners that it wasn't Agrus Kos' spirit for Boros. All in all, it's like the last chapter of the Dissension book doesn't matter. The only thing that stuck from how that book ended was that Jarad died and possessed his own body to become a lich.

>> No.31796050

>>31795989
most likely, given nuphyrexia is kinda shit at the whole invading thing

>> No.31796052

>>31795989
maybe, still if a new father of machines emerges and has the cunning of old Yawgmoth the Phyrexia way of war involves taking up several small planes as you seed bigger, stronger ones with sleeper agents as well as active ones to erode alliances and prepare the way to power, Rath, a plane from the Dominaria/Phyrexia war, got taken by Phyrexian indirect means as much as it did by force
a proper war against Lorwyn or Alara (specially fucking Alara) would imply New Phyrexian already vastly outnumbers the natives

>> No.31796061

>>31796050
is this nigga serious?

>> No.31796095

>>31796061
They invaded exactly zero planes so far. They only 'invaded' Mirrodin because Karn ACCIDENTALLY dropped some magic corruption oil onto his robot planet.

>> No.31796114

>>31795989
when they can't find metal, they use flesh

>> No.31796123

>>31796095
oh, i did read the 'nu' part of it as a short form of new, i thought it was just a typo

>> No.31796136

>>31796095
the glistening oil is one of their methods of invasion, invasion via infection.

>> No.31796146

>>31795440
Nah, Rakdos guildmembers get referred to as things like "thrillseekers" and "thrillkillers" on a regular basis. They love to enjoy themselves, as much as they can. However, given the Guildmaster and the various activities that the Cult takes part in, anyone is likely to die.

Red/Black Guild. They represent the freedom to do as they please and full-on hedonism, even at the expense of each other, should they deem it necessary. Are you going to have lots of fun? If you're not scared out of your wits, yes. Are you going to live to a ripe, old age? No; if you are a Blood Witch, you are still in danger because they have power struggles while Rakdos is taking naps.

>> No.31796191
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31796191

I absolutely adore Venser, and I was immensely disgusted with WotC when he died in one of the books, and a SHITTY book at that.

>>31795190
I have never understood the flavor behind that guy. He looks pretty cool though.

>> No.31796223

>>31796191
Literally every single card from the Time Spiral set was a reference to an older card.

Tivadar was a reference to the card Tivadar's Crusade, a white spell from The Dark that just read "Destroy all Goblins".

>> No.31796321
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31796321

>>31796223
Okay, now that I'm seeing it, I think I'm getting it.
By,"The world he knew was gone", it means he was sent to another plane/timeline?

If that's what it's saying, than I'm going to feel daft for not figuring that out before.

>> No.31796337

>>31796321
yes

>> No.31796364
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31796364

>>31796191
>I have never understood the flavor behind that guy.
he's the leader of the Knights of Thorn. Basically a group of knights who fucked up goblin clans and had cool masks.

The time spiral tore open a portal in time, and flung him into the future, where he continues to fuck up goblins because seriously FUCK goblins.

>> No.31796372
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31796372

>>31793723
Kamigawa's ok. The Kami war is ancient history.

Like, the distant descendant of one of the block's main characters shows up in Legends. And then he's supposedly ancient history by modern Dominarian standards. Yeah.

>> No.31796388

>>31796321
Right. The whole thing with Time Spiral is that there were rifts through time tearing open all over Dominaria, causing lots of problems. in Time Spiral, the rifts opened into the past- so we got throwbacks like Tivadar, as well as the "timeshifted" cards- actual Magic from the past.

Planar Chaos gave us rifts opening into parallel timelines- the 'colorshifted' cards, which were straight reprints of existing cards, just in another color.

Future Sight gave us rifts into the future- the "futureshifted" cards, previews of things we might see in upcoming sets (colored artifacts, the return of Poison, Tribal)

>> No.31796407
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31796407

>>31796364
We're like, just trying to get by - ya know?

>> No.31796421

>>31796321
>>31796364
I really enjoyed the Magus Cycles. Each one painted a sad tragic end (or continuation) to magic's greatest weapons.

>> No.31796436
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31796436

>>31796388
>>31796364
I already knew about Future Sight as a whole, but I never understood Tivadar specifically. He looked dope, but I had never seen any articles/stories that covered him, so I always sorta looked over him.

But really though, fuck goblins.

>> No.31796452

>>31796407
Tired of those OLD DUMB goblins? Try the new Phyrexian Brand!
"Mogg-O"s!
Guaranteed to ... um... Be bigger.

>> No.31796456
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31796456

>>31796407
Nope. Remove goblin.

>> No.31796462
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31796462

>>31793479
Vampire, they're the top of the food chain everywhere but Zendikar.
In Ravnica, or our world even, being pretty as fuck, stupidly long-live so you can accumulate wealth like crazy, and there being so many homeless you wouldn't raise concern seems like the top tier of comfy to me.

>> No.31796505

>>31793479
kickin' thighs innistrad angel time

>> No.31796522
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31796522

>>31796421
Yeah, those guys are really cool. Magus of the Tabernacle, and Magus of the Moat, are epic looking. I'm not sure why Magus of the Disk is white if Nevinyrral was a lich.

>> No.31796537

>>31796462
I know there are vampires associated with Dimir and Orzhov, but are there any in Golgari and Rakdos?

>> No.31796539

>>31795671
I think its mirran crusader

>> No.31796547

>>31796522
>Maro's NWO + Wrath effects have generally been in white + Maro enforcing his NWO

>> No.31796554

>>31796522
The "draconian judgement" and "being a boardwipe" thing, I think.
I like this comment someone put on the Gatherer.
>"What the hell! This 'Nevinyrral' is talking absolute garbage, I- wait... hang on... that's... yeah, I kinda see what he's saying... hmm... well... actually... I suppose... hmm, you know, now I think about it, this guy might be onto somethi- whoa, that's... wow, this guy is bang on! I'm getting mad just thinking about it! You know what? I'm gonna do it! I'm really gonna do it! I'm going to go blow up the world!"

>> No.31796558

>>31793479
Simic Guildmage. Time to experiment with science and shit.

>> No.31796575

>>31796558
This

>> No.31796588

>>31795671
>>31795601
Think it's "suppose" to be venser's mask. And you will notice how "suppose" is in quote because I also think the artist fucked up on how to draw the mask and no one caught it / didn't care to change it at that point.

>> No.31796619

>>31793479
Djinn somewhere is green, most Djinn are sorta big creatures, not common and secretive, which is coll considering the multiverse is a fucking dangerous place to exist in

>> No.31796632

>>31796372

> Filename

Reading up on Tetsuo's history, you'd think Sorin's "People I have Trolled" is just a pathetic attempt to try and out-troll the trolling Umezawa gave to Nicky-B.

Man, what a play, Tetsuo, what a play.

>> No.31796639

>>31795697
Undead is probably fairer, and well, why not? They are spirits, but spirits can die in magic.

They're still considered a creature with 5 toughness for gameplay purposes, and they have no innate way to avoid the grave beyond blinking out and in every so often.

Boros would probably have been a better example, but I don't think the Gruul would be so inept when given an important enemy on a plate.

>> No.31796669

>>31793479
Sliver Planeswalker. Give planeswalking to all my bros.

>> No.31796674

>>31796639
I imagine that, flavor wise, they'd still have their "off someone unimportant and make themselves scarce" trick from their first card if something went really wrong.

>> No.31796676

>>31795165
>>31795237
I would bet on Elesh surviving and staying white as a reflection on old Phyrexia.
"All will be one" is an utterly white motto and her faceplate would mimic Yawgmoth's mask with a little bit of battle damage here and there.

>> No.31796710

>>31796547
Future Sight was pre-NWO, dummy.

>> No.31796744

>>31796676

That would make me so angry, I will fucking kill Rosewater.

>> No.31796788

>>31796710
You mean I can't blame maro for everything I don't like in mtg?

>> No.31796795

>>31796744
but wouldn't it be so cool to have phyrexia be all white xD

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31796827

>>31793479
Kithkin bunny-goat knight, Lorwyn.

>> No.31796849
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31796849

>>31796744
Honestly, New Phyrexia always seemed kinda white-centric despite the beginning of the infection being black and green, especially because of the "All Will Be One" tagline. That they are pushing white as the face of Phyrexia doesn't surprise me.
I am also totally okay with it because white Phyrexia is best Phyrexia.

>> No.31797079

>>31796849
>white Phyrexia is best Phyrexia
Totally this. I think they made sense being B back in the day, since the driving force for the whole faction was Yawgmoth's ambitions and the amorality by which he achieved them.

Now that Phyrexians are more Borgish, believing that compleation is their gift to the multiverse, they can only be white.

>> No.31797087

>>31796547
One, NWO only affects cards at common. Magus of the Disk is rare.
Two, NWO didn't exist during Time Spiral - the high complexity of that set was one reason it started (sales dropped off despite tournament attendance remaining high, because kitchen table players were confused by the ludicrously complex nature of the set). So, no.
Really, it's just because wrath effects are white.

>> No.31797090

>>31796537
Not that we know of, I really wished the new Bloodwitch was a vampire, it's the perfect possition for a beautiful sadist with a knack for performance and death.
Necropolis Regent however makes it clear vampires an Golgari don't think well of each other. (Golgari doesn't like gorgons either).

>> No.31797112

>>31796537
Not as far as I know, but Innistrad's vampires would fit in with the Cult very well. Them and Rakdos should hang out some time.

>> No.31797133

>>31797090
>Golgari doesn't like gorgons either
Are you getting this from anywhere other than Gaze of Granite? Because Golgari has the majority (if not all) of the gorgons on Ravnica.

>> No.31797139
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31797139

Say what you want about Theros, but it was a flavour gold mine.

>> No.31797169

>>31797139
Funny you chose that card as your example, since his ability is nothing like king midas'

>> No.31797175

>>31797139
I will never not be amused by Hundred-Handed One's rules text.

>> No.31797183

>>31797169
Quit being a picky fucker.

>> No.31797231

>>31797183
Why? There was literally zero reason for them to not do an exiletouch thing other than the fact that they wanted to shoehorn in that shitty shitty mechanic

>> No.31797238

>>31797169

>turns shit into gold
>nothing like king midas

I understand that it's a bit frustrating that he can't turn artifacts into gold from a flavour perspective, but you have to draw the line somewhere when writing the rules.

>> No.31797255

>>31797238
see >>31797231

>> No.31797263

>>31797255
>>31797231

So what's the problem then? Fucker still turns shit into gold.

>> No.31797266

>>31797169
>>31797183
It's also a 'may' ability. Awesome curse, great job.

>>31797139
Making shitty not-versions of Greek shit does not a flavour goldmine make.
>guys
>we want the Trojan Horse, right guys?
>ok so
>guys
>so the Traojan Horse guys
>we make it into a card right
>except we call it the AKROAN Horse
>brilliant, let's do the same thing with the Collosus of Rhodes

>> No.31797286

>>31797266

We get it, "stop liking what I don't like".

>> No.31797296

>>31796849
>>31797079

Get out newfags. The Lord of the Wastes was the only god Phyrexia needed. Your "praetors" could be killed by an old-school negator. They can't handle a bunch of babby 'walkers. Yawgmoth beat 9 old ones.

New Phyrexia, and every set post-Invasion, minus the Ravnica ones a shit.

>> No.31797300

>>31797266
Quit being a fucking tool, jesus.

>> No.31797303
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31797303

>>31797090
>beautiful sadist with a knack for performance and death.

rakdos take me now

>> No.31797329

>>31797286
No, that's not what I said. I was saying I thought Theros wasn't great in flavour because it's often very lazy. I never said you couldn't like it.

>> No.31797338

>>31797263
the issue is that midas had to TOUCH shit to turn it to gold. Like this, not only can he turn things to gold from miles away, but he can forgo doing it entirely!

>> No.31797342

>>31797133
Gaze of Granite is more than enough, it explains very clearly why the Guild set on death and regrowth would hate stonegazing and gorgons arent even responsible with that shit, you take a walk at night, peep at some babe walking down the road and fuck you're stone before you can even say "bitch that ain't fair".

>> No.31797351

>>31797296
Gameplay power does not equal fluff power. 8 packs of grizzlies cannot take down gods in the fluff.

>> No.31797364

>>31797090
>31797090
How does one woman speak for an entire race?

>> No.31797372

>>31797133
What more needs to be said beyond Graze of Granite? It explains exactly what they think of them and how they waste good bodies who can't be regrown.

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31797376

>>31797342
Gaze of Granite only specifies that Golgari reclaimers don't like gorgons, though. Nothing about any other branch of the Swarm. And considering gorgons once ruled the swarm and even now live within its headquarters, I don't think the Golgari have that big of a problem with them.

>> No.31797380

>>31797338

I just accept that not everything can be translated so literally onto abilities sometimes. It's pretty cool as is, I don't get hung up on how it could be SO MUCH BETTER if this and this and this happened instead.

>> No.31797399

>>31797380
It just bugs me that they only did that to shoehorn a shit mechanic no one liked into an otherwise decent set

>> No.31797412

>>31797351

I'm referring to both gameplay and fluff. Fucking Urza got almost geeked by a bunch of Negator priests. And every time they got a little closer to success.

You know what I would love? The Phyrexians find an old Negator. Or a witch engine, or a plaguelord. Who then proceeds to utterly SHREK nuphyrexia, and re-indoctrinate the newts, while single-handedly destroying the travesty that is new Phyrexia.

>> No.31797455

>>31797364
a) The race is so rare they're mostly all mythic or Dimir.
b) Most of said race gathers under Orzhov or Dimir who don't get along with the Golgari.
c) Golgari doesn't like people who prevent the natural cycle of life.

>> No.31797465

>>31797455
Vampires don't prevent anything.

>> No.31797469
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31797469

>Literally tapping into the eldritch powers of an entire plane.

This is one of my favorite cards in Theros flavorwise.

I'm a sucker for Greek mythology, so I've actually liked Theros flavorwise. I really like Godsend, the Journey Into Nyx prerelease had the entire godslayer thing which, while gimmicky was pretty fun flavorwise because I made a cloak that gave the enchanted creature the ability to untap for 2 mana and protection from enchantments.

>> No.31797476

>>31797412
Only old phyrexian I'd stomach seeing around again would be the Devouring Strossus.

>> No.31797487

>>31797465
They end life before its time to preserve their own unnatural immortality. That is doublefucking the cycle of life.

>> No.31797495

>>31797465
They spread undeath, they may not do it a lot, but they wouldn't still exist otherwise.

>> No.31797507

>>31797487
Golgari don't care about murder. They kill people too. They have assassins.

>> No.31797722
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31797722

>in case of werewolf/vampire/zombie attack
>get darkest hour
>go innawoods
>become 4/5 green creature

>> No.31798011
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>>31796674
Yeah. All Teysa really needs is an ally/tool with stifle powers and something strong enough to kill them, the rest is just for the coverup.

>> No.31798034

>>31797412
Contain your asspains, grandpa

All five colors is with the hip now

>> No.31798089

>>31797296
>New Phyrexia, and every set post-Invasion, minus the Ravnica ones a shit.
time spiral blew both ravnicas out of the water

also odyssey was fucking tops and I will fight anyone who says otherwise

nuphyrexia is a wet runny dump on the setting, and both mirroden blocks sucked the fun out of the limited/standard environments of the time

>> No.31798146
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31798146

>>31798089
>also odyssey was fucking tops and I will fight anyone who says otherwise

MAH NIGGA - Any day I get to hard cast this guy is gonna be a good day. Still running MBC, UG-Madness, Druids, and Cephalids at the kitchen table. Odyssey block fo life.

>> No.31799320

>>31797296
Dude, your like that guy he says dragon ball Z is cooler than series X because Goku could totally blow up a planet. It's not about how overpowered and 'epic' something is.

>> No.31799555
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31799555

I know Sorin Markov isn't a creature but I love every little bit about Sorin, especially how he is in the books. That's just brilliance

>> No.31799556

Man I miss old (pre-Alara) Magic.

>> No.31799562

>>31791630
Uhm, shit, did some angels from Innistrad migrate to Ravnica? That's some high-level zettai ryukai on that girl.

>> No.31799576
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31799576

>>31794259

>> No.31799591

>>31794259
>Angels are asexual, and reproduce by mitosis of course. How else does a one-gendered mono-species come about?

They're created directly from white mana, just like demons come from black mana and fire elementals from red mana. It's just how things work in Dominia.

>> No.31799621
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31799621

>>31799555
Sorin was the best thing in Teeth of Akoum

>> No.31799803

>>31793479
Someone on Zendikar. I can't decide on species. Probably human.

Either that or some person from Esper or Bant, either Pre or Post-mending.

>> No.31800171

>>31799621
Sorin is probably the best thing, lore wise, in modern Magic.

>> No.31800499

>>31800171
Someone obviously has never had a case of being-in-the-way-of-a-millennia-old-vampire.

>> No.31800637

>>31796537
Not really. Vampires being in the Orzhov was a little bit weird, since there weren't any hints at it other than Orzhov having some bats in the first block. Seemed like they just sort of jarred them in because Sorin is bringing back Vampires as a standard creature in Black. Dimir's vampires are supposedly all morii or that race of psychic vampires that Szadek was the last of.

Vamps probably wouldn't like all the rot farming, nor enjoy the idea that their immortal bodies could be mutilated on a regular basis in the carnivals and pits.

>> No.31800846

>>31796554
Oh boy, I can't wait to cast Fated Return on a Magus of the Disk in EDH.
That's a board wipe every turn, baby in a very janky way.

>> No.31800917

>>31793479
Treefolk on Lorwyn.
Yavimaya is also a nice place to be a walking tree.

>> No.31801030

>>31795229

Also isn't Exava a blood witch slash night club owner?

I thought in some of the fluff she runs a bangin nightclub that is open to all guilds provided they have money and people only get killed outside of it.

>> No.31801075

>>31795440

i'd love to read a writefag story about a struggling Rakdos comedian with a liquor problem.

Just a minor celebrity trying to make it big in a guild dominated world, struggling with the bottle and doing gigs in Exava's club.

Also eventually doing a stand up routine for Lord Rakdos himself while his life literally hangs in the balance.

>> No.31801104

>>31800846
How are you planning on playing Fated Return every turn? And Magus of the Disk enters tapped, and requires being tapped to activate him.

>> No.31801141
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>>31801104
The activation cost, just like on Larry's disk, doesn't require saccing the magus when you blow things up.
Fated Return makes gives him indestructible, so he can blow stuff up without him biting it.

>> No.31801182

>>31801141
I see. Well screw you too pal. Now where is my Grave Pact?

>> No.31801414
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31801414

>tfw RTR raped the Simic

instead of original scientist (blue job) elves (green creatures) we get druid merfolk OUT OF NOWHERE. For the sake of making them different form the Izzet they took away all Simic flavor and replace it with fish motifs

>> No.31804907

I wish to be the little Orzhov girl.

>> No.31805237
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31805237

>>31793479
Orzhov. Tax bitches, and looks stylish while doing it.

>> No.31805277

>>31801414
I don't think its been completely raped since the guilds got messed up in the first Ravnica block

>> No.31805298

>>31804907
>ghostly little mob prince/princess
>daddy's a big shot Orzhov exec
I'm surprised no one's thought of this

>> No.31806404
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31806404

>>31805237
Man, I usually agree that Orzhov looks like the tightest shit but THAT'S what you call stylish?

That is Izzet costume party tier.

>> No.31806598

>>31790592
>>31805237
Boob windows. Why?

>> No.31806625

>>31806598

That's where the laser comes out.

>> No.31806787

>>31806404
I wanted to post Blood Baron of Vizkopa, but I could only find tiny pics.

>> No.31806868

So Aurelia is Gideon and Chandra's daughterfu right?

>> No.31806869

>>31806598
Want the full cleavage?
That's gonna cost you extra
>The Church of Deals, the most profitable strip club on Ravnica

>> No.31806902

>>31806868
I hope not, Gideon blatantly wants to hit that with the force of Boros charge

>> No.31806957

>>31806902
I hope Gideon was into Chandra? Didn't he spend an entire book and a couple of sets just trying to get it in after fing it up by asking about her dead parents before doing the deed?

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31807065

>>31806598
Clearly, they're to show off the 'assets' of prestigious Orzhov women.

>> No.31807192

>>31806957
What book is this? I need to know because reasons
And I was referring to Gideon wanting Aurelia's fury

>> No.31807242
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31807242

>>31795012
That is the best bird.

I love how it stares at people in disapproval.

>> No.31807281

>>31807192
The purifying flame or something of the sorts. Gideon comes in about halfway through

>> No.31807298
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31807298

Does anyone have any idea how wedge philosophy would work? What would a wedge setting look like?

>> No.31807388

>>31807298
Check out all the cards from Apocalypse if you haven't already. One of the things we've seen wedge do a bit of is using enemy means to achieve allied goals, if that helps at all (I.E. promoting chaos in the pursuit of justice, studying death to better understand life, etc.)

>> No.31807502

>>31795188

1 drop flier that you can use in a white weenie to shove any counterable removal up your opponents twat is not useless.

>> No.31807627

>>31791195

Links for the fluff?

>> No.31808092

>>31807627
http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/ur/233

This has some good interaction between Gideon and Aurelia.
She's still the avenging angel, but its more tempered and focused

>> No.31808984

>>31807242
best card in the set after the elocutors

>> No.31809179

>>31797139
I actually thought this card was a flavor train wreck.

Contact not required, and a May ability.

It could have been combat or non combat, but the May is utterly unacceptable.

>Combat not required
>Midas can't move without risking turning something into gold.

>Combat required
>Every time he touches something, it turns to gold

Either would have worked, but the may clause just ruins it.

>> No.31809305

>>31791195
I'm more concerned as to where the actual fuck Aurelia came from.

At the end of Dissension, it was heavily implied that Pierakor was the last angel. Szadek has the rest killed.

So Aurelia comes out of nowhere and acts as an impassioned, zealous angel among the Boros rank and file. Then she actually gets Feather imprisoned because she had been a disgraced angel before becoming guildmaster. Then she usurps control of the guild.

In terms of fluff, she makes an awful character. She only exists because the designers wanted a more aggressive angel to lead the Legion.

>> No.31809383

>>31809179
>Either would have worked, but the may clause just ruins it.
"may" + inspired = trainwreck, because if someone forgets it one time the entire boardstate crashes
so really, gild-in-contact would be the only practical solution

>> No.31809465
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31809465

This guy is just beautiful.
He's a single card that tells a story in every aspect.

The art, the flavor text, the mechanics, everything works together to make it work just beautifully.

>>31809383
Missed triggers are a thing. If someone forgets to trigger their Inspired guy and no one reminds them, then they forgot, and the game moves on.

>> No.31809909
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31809909

>>31809465
The only thing I might like better is this badass.

>> No.31809954

>>31809465
>If someone forgets to trigger their Inspired guy and no one reminds them, then they forgot, and the game moves on.
most inspired triggers are less significant to miss than "an entire creature is now gone"
pain seer is probably the only comparably consequential effect
all the rest are may effects or otherwise all-upside (for a minor amount)

>> No.31810101

>>31809954
From a design perspective a card that reads "every turn you get to kill an enemy creature without hexproof" would be massively cheesy if it HAD to be activated
From a flavor perspective it fits the curse of Midas. He doesn't want to touch anything if he can help it, so you as a planeswalker summon him then just needle him into poking the enemy every time you remember

>> No.31810167

>>31810101
The thing is that Midas couldn't HELP but touch anything. The fact that Midas can avoid touching stuff if but still do things if you command him not to is kind of ridiculous.

>> No.31810218

>>31810167
Its more of a "quick, run over there and touch the other guys stuff!" kind of thing
Thinking about it, better flavour would be if you can't do it to the enemy Micar does it to you, but thats way too long to fit in the box

>> No.31810237

>>31810218
No. Just take out the May clause, and that is EXACTLY what you have. When he untaps, turn a creature other than Midas into gold. If you can't say no to him, then you have to start exiling your own dudes.

>> No.31810239

>>31809909
Man it really sucked to live on Innistrad when Sorin's daughteru was still in the Helvault, huh?

>> No.31810240

>>31810218
Woulda just been better to do it as an exile touch thing. Clear, concise and flavorful

>> No.31810499
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31810499

This guy right here. He rides around through Grixis on what is basically a zombie version of that bird dino in Revenge of the Sith, party crashing any battle that he encounters and killing the fuck out of both sides with a giant fuck-off sword.

>> No.31810596

>>31796321
The level of fuckedupness allowed in the old sets is pretty impressive. Tivadar was a real man.

>> No.31810656

>>31796436
Looking at this makes me think of gorons.

>> No.31810710
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31810710

>>31796364
>Long ago in a distant land, I, Rigger, the assembling Master of Contraptions, unleashed an unspeakable artifact!
>But a foolish Knight of Thorn wielding a sweet mask stepped forth to oppose me.
>Before the final blow was struck, I tore open a portal in time and flung him into the future where my evil is law!
>Now the fool seeks to return to the past, and undo the future that is Rigging!

>> No.31810785

>>31795229
All the cards we see are on the extreme and violent end of the Guilds since that fits the game better. What we don't see are the:

>Dimir postmen
>Rakdos actors
>Simic doctors
>Golgari farmers
>Izzet plumbers
>Orzhov merchants

Not sure what other civilian functions the Boros, Azorious, Orzhov and Gruul fulfill.

>> No.31810817

>>31797399
It just bugs me that it was so easy to avoid - keep everything the same, remove the 'may'. In an extreme edge case, he might end up turning himself into gold. Oops! IT'S A CURSE.

>> No.31810831

>>31810167
>The thing is that Midas couldn't HELP but touch anything
bitch can't just wear gloves?
the reason he can't help but touch anything is that humans need to eat
magic that problem away and he'll probably be fine existing and never holding his loved ones again

>> No.31810867

>>31810785
>Azorius Lawyers
>Boros Traffic Controller
>Gruul Steve Irwin

>> No.31810874

>>31810831
Well, the gloves would turn to gold. Gauntlets might work out better, though.

>> No.31810910

>>31810867
>Selesnya Dirty Hippy

>> No.31811048

>>31796407

No you're not you little shits if that was true you wouldn't have that weird fucking compulsion to burn down everything you see.

Goblins are cunts and that's funny. Right up until they're cunts to you, it stops being funny pretty fast then.

>> No.31811209

>>31810910
No, that's official guild business.

>> No.31811384
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>>31810785
>Azorious
Prosecutors

>>31811209
No official guild business is making people join the Chorus.

>> No.31811799

>>31810785
>Boros
Town guards and veteran's affairs
>Azorius
As another anon said, prosecutors. Also minor officials, customs officers, most non-financial paper based jobs.
>Orzhov
Defence lawyers and financial paperwork.
>Gruul
Nothing. They served a purpose when Ravnica still had wilderness as the stewards and gamekeepers of nature, but these days they're just a resentful loose collective of clans ruled by strength. This isn't helped by the fact that many other guilds consider them less than human, with the exception of the Selesnya and Boros.

Also,
>Dimir Librarians, couriers and archivists
>Rakdos cooks, brewers, publicans, artists and slave/cheap labour
>Simic consumer goods and urban conservation
>Golgari trash collectors
>Izzet public industries and infrastructure

>> No.31812306

>>31810710
>He succeeded

>> No.31812351

>>31811799
The Golgari also run the soup kitchens. You hope they're serving mushroom soup today instead of mystery meat stew, but beggars can't be choosers.

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>>31812351
Well, then again, their mushrooms are fertilized with mystery meat, so you're kind of screwed either way

>> No.31812876

Anybody remember any good references to the use of mana in various things?

I remember in the Ravnica Block, people actually referred to the kinds of mana by their applications:
>Stuff like Wojek Teardrops were biomanalogical
>Izzet vehicles running by burning pyromana
>Golgari rituals are infused with necromana

Stuff like that.

>> No.31812879

>>31812565
>a single non-unique gorgon who lives in the sewers
>killing that many people
It's hard to forget how rare dying of old age is in Ravnica. At any time you could get a little dart with a Dimir symbol on it in your kneck, or meet a gorgon, or get caught at a Rakdos festival, or get stomped on by a wayward Indrik.

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>>31812879
>meet a gorgon
Just don't look her in the eyes, or piss her off.

Come to think of it, you'd have a legitimate excuse to ogle a gorgon. You don't want to die.

>> No.31813637

Can I be a thrull in Homelands?

Suffering ahoy!

>> No.31813722

>>31813637
You mean Fallen Empires?

>> No.31813817

>>31813722
Yeah, always forget that they were separate.

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>>31813817
>tfw you love Fallen Empires
>tfw it will forever be associated with Homelands and considered terrible
>tfw the closest modern equivalent was Kamigawa which is even more infamous
I liked my history book format and slowly collapsing societies.

>> No.31814160

>>31813929
Well.. Fallen Empires wasn't exactly amazing.

It had a few good cards, Hymn, Orders and High Tide. Rest was terrible. Awesome flavor though.

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31814238

>>31814160
Damn straight. This is my favourite 1-drop to this day. Flavourful, great art, great design, and a ping effect which doesn't feel out of place in White.

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31815479

>Goblins are never female, except the Aunties and Goblin Electromancer

>> No.31815668

>>31815479
How can you tell?

On a more serious note, there are implications on a few cards that that's mostly because female goblins are usually non-combatants. They spend most of their time at home making more goblins.

>> No.31815823

>>31807298
RWB
Goal: Order
Means: Hedonism
High-Magic Westeros

GUR
Goal: Knowledge
Means: Savagery
Hunter scientists, lots of taxidermy.

WBG
Goal: Immortality
Means: Natural order.
Evolutionary Buddhists.

WRU
Goal: Freedom
Means: Law
Plane of despot tyrants and hypocritical freedom-fighters.

UGB
Goal: Fitness
Means: Necroscience.
Repo! The genetic opera.

>> No.31815887

>>31815823
Funnily enough, all the Disciple quotes from Apocalypse seem to denote the opposite stance; the enemy colour is used as a means to the allied goal. Quote from Necra disciple, for instance:
>"The darkness merely hides the light."
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Search/Default.aspx?output=spoiler&method=visual&sort=cn+&action=advanced&name=+[disciple]||type%3d+[disciple]||subtype%3d+[disciple]||text%3d+[disciple]&set=|[%22Apocalypse%22]

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31816259

>>31807065
Does... does she have Feldon's cane?

>> No.31819595

>>31812876

In-universe few people understand that there is five colours of mana.

>> No.31819793

>>31813929
Yes, Fallen Empires has a special place in my heart as well. I starteed Around Onslaught but won 3 FE boosters from an ebay auction around Mirrodin. I split it with a friend and we were going mad, thinking it must be super rare and how lucky we were to get 3 whole sealed boosters for a low price of like 6 bucks or something.
I got a Seasinger and a Deep Spawn out of it. Even back then I thought the cards were shit, but I still remember the joy I felt anticipating cracking those boosters.

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31820499

>>31793479
I have loved old-school Slivers since the moment I laid eyes on one. Even if I was a Lorwyn Elf, I would stay as close to any Hivestone as I could possibly get, just in case.

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