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[ERROR] No.31718776 [Reply] [Original] [4plebs] [archived.moe]

/tg/, you just hate Ultramarines because success breeds jealousy and you're therefore just jealous that they are the BEST.

Admit it.

>> No.31718978

>>31718776
>The best
>Not champions of the Emperor

try again ultrasmurf.

>> No.31719008

>>31718978
>black templers
>not wannabes

>> No.31719043

>>31718978
You jealous little people just need to stop being tsuntsun and admit you wish you were Ultramarines.

>> No.31719109

>>31718776
They are traitors to the Imperium and the reason the Emperor is nearly dead. I'd say they are the worst Astartes to look up to.

>> No.31719154

>>31719109
The Ultramarines are easily the most glorious and loyal of chapters, and Roboute Guilliman singlehandedly saved the Imperium. Don't go blaming them for the Imperial Fists fucking up.

>> No.31719159

>>31719109
Nice headcanon

>> No.31719575

>>31719154
If Girlyman hadn't fucked off to the other side of the galaxy on a fools hunt he would've been there at the siege of Terra. And all because he got angry at petty insults. Great leader there, guys.

Afterwards he destroyed the Astartes legions while keeping is own intact, because he couldn't allow others to have more success than him.

The Ultramarines also control a whole empire of their own. They don't need tithes like the other chapters, because they control the industrial capacity of a whole sector. It's armies and Navy included. They are essentially the Tau of the Imperium.

Oh! And lets not forget their consorting with Xenos.

>> No.31719639

why is it that 40k fans make shit up and then pretend its obvious?

>> No.31719784

>>31719575
>If Girlyman hadn't fucked off to the other side of the galaxy on a fools hunt he would've been there at the siege of Terra
Yeah, how dare he OBEY his WARMASTER and then FIGHT ONE OF THE BIGGEST LEGIONS.
>Afterwards he destroyed the Astartes legions while keeping is own intact
He broke up way more of his own you retard.
>The Ultramarines also control a whole empire of their own.
That they ceded most of to their successors (it was 500 worlds!).
>They don't need tithes like the other chapters
No chapter pays tithes.
>they control the industrial capacity of a whole sector
*eight systems
>lets not forget their consorting with Xenos
...What, letting the Tau evacuate when declaring exterminatus? The Blood Angels did the same with NECRONS!

You people do nothing but cast aspersions on the Greatest of Them All due to your inferiority complexes. Admit it!

>> No.31720047

>>31719784
>He broke up way more of his own you retard.
False. He broke it up just like any other Legion, but all of them listen to the main-chapter. They aren't a Legion in name only.

>No chapter pays tithes.
That's not what I'm saying.


Sure. Just evacuation and not all those pacts they made with them.

>> No.31720211

>>31720047
>all of them listen to the main-chapter
No, that's the Dark Angels, who directly command their successors.

The Ultramarines are just respected by their successors, like any founding chapter.

He made no pacts. That was, again, the Blood Angels, who have pacts of mutual protection with the nearby xenos.

>> No.31720284

>>31719008
>>31719043

>Being this jelly.

Its ok, the Emperor cannot tell you that you are His champions but you can still try even though you will never be.

>> No.31720357

>>31720284

you're adorable.

>> No.31720430

so im not exactly sure it is, but if the ultras have their own little slice of empire, and are making deals with xenos to back each other up, wouldn't that make them miles better then the imperium?

>> No.31720460

>>31720284
The Ultramarines are the most glorious of all chapters. It's natural to be jelly.

>> No.31720461

>>31720430
>all this heresy

It's like you don't fear the holy inquisition.

>> No.31720488

>>31720430
>wouldn't that make them miles better then the imperium?

they have been for a while now. their curse is being the one competent group in an empire of retards charged with protecting said retards.

>> No.31720553

>>31720357
He may have a point:
Emps only nominated one champion, afaik. He called that one "Warmaster."

>> No.31720627

>>31720553
>Emps only nominated one champion, afaik. He called that one "Warmaster."

and everything worked out swell.

>> No.31720690

>>31720627
Depending on your point of view, yes.

>> No.31721230

>>31718776
oh but i love loyalist marines of all flavors, though i must admit all the marines i've been eating lately have been making me fat

>> No.31721262

>>31718776
no i just hate them because they are a porrly written mary sue army. anything good in their backstory was stolen from dark angels original fluff.

>> No.31721306

>>31720460
glenn more sure looks alot like hamburger helper

>> No.31721418

>>31721306
he kinda does. also, im pretty sure she isnt working on inquisition, which is a point in its favor

>> No.31721583

>>31721306
she should just play visual novels

>> No.31721640

>>31719154
Rawbutt girlyman

>> No.31721697

It's Carnac, guys. He's trying to troll Space Marine rather than Eldar players this time. Just ignore him.

>> No.31721705

Guys come on we all know the world eaters are the best

>> No.31721862

>>31721306

This pissed me off. So much. I almost punched the monitor.

>> No.31723156

tfw you lose one battle and the whole morale of the Imperium decreases.

Being the best is suffering.

>> No.31723391

>>31719784
> bu-bu-but the Blood Angels did it too!

Traitors the lot of you.

>> No.31723459

>>31720461
> All these heretics.
> someone call in the real warriors
> namely Minotaurs, Rapters, Blood Ravens

>> No.31723532

>>31723459
>Minotaurs
>Real Warriors
Their idea of "make these loyal chapters stop fighting each other over an honor issue" is "Annihilate these two loyal chapters and take their relics."

>> No.31723669

>>31723532
Youre premise is faulty.

Loyal chapters wouldn't be fighting each other, that would be a waste of the EMPERORS resources.

Both are likely traitors and need to have their assets seized.

>> No.31723695

>>31723669
lol at my spelling of your.

>> No.31723697

>>31723669
The Inquisition would be the wrong symbol as they're investigating the Minotaurs for being too close to the High Lords.

It was the High Lords who told them to break up the fight.

>> No.31723751

>>31723669
using a traitors assets is heresy, so im starting to think you are not a inquisitor at all

>> No.31723800

>>31723697
Thats what we want you to think.

>>31723751
Pft, using is not the same as seizing. Besides the its up to the Inquisition to determine what IS and what IS NOT heresy.

>> No.31723882

>>31723532
That's what the Minotaurs are famous for you know, waiting for a loyalist chapter to slip up and then pouncing on them and sacking their relics.
It's why no one likes them. They'd rather be killing other space marines and looting relics, than fighting the Enemies of Man.

Their only redeeming quality is that they -usually- wait for a chapter to be renegade before they attack... usually.

Asterion Moloc probably has the coolest fluff of any chapter master though, as the Dread Pirate Roberts of Space Marines.

>> No.31723933

>>31723882

When a Necron Phaeron of the Batfuck-Insano Dynasty calls you out on being a jackass, you know you have a problem.

>> No.31723976

>>31723532
>Carcharodons idea of "capture this city"
>detonate all its nuclear reactors

>> No.31724016

>>31723976

It worked, didn't it?

>> No.31724188

>>31723976
I like how there's a shout out to Badab in Extermination, where the Raven Guard's version of the dirty dozen infiltrate a hive city and knock out its power by overloading the reactors.

>> No.31724258

>>31719575
>Afterwards he destroyed the Astartes legions while keeping is own intact, because he couldn't allow others to have more success than him.
At the time when he implemented the Codex limits it was more of a concession to the other legions which had already been reduced to chapter size by the fighting and unlikely to recover for a very long time while the Ultramarines were the largest by a huge margin. Some Legions had even lost their primarchs which raised the question of whether a "normal" space marine could be in charge of a whole legion in those trying times. The codex limits were a gesture of egalitarianism, the Ultramarines who had the most to give were broken down to match those survivors that could barely scrape together two chapters. Those without a primarch no longer had to worry about who could command a legion because now even a primarch would only command a chapter.
Of course some of his retarded brothers insisted on arguing theoretical and refusing to concede the practical.

>> No.31724313

>>31723976
RIGHTEOUS!

>> No.31724616

Hating Ultramarines is Oldhat. This isn't 2009 faggots.

Hating Wolf fags is where its at now

>> No.31724713

>>31718776
I hate everyone.

And doubly hate those that hate that I hate everyone.

>> No.31724754

>>31724616
No way, its all about how shitty Draigo is

>> No.31724840

>>31718978
I was hoping to post this

>> No.31724877

>>31724754

Draigo was last year

>> No.31724911

>>31721306
thankfully he retained his sense of humour instead of eating it.

>> No.31724919

>>31721705

>liking chaos
>liking a chaos legion that isn't alpha, death guard, or thousand sons

Get out of my sight.

>> No.31724937

>>31724616
hating wolves has gotten tiresome

>> No.31724970

>>31724937
Then back to smurfs it is.

>>31724840
thats awesome

>> No.31724988

>>31721306

>> No.31725085

>>31723532
>Annihilate these two loyal chapters and take their relics.
Brothers, the Minotaurs have so kindly gifted us with new tactics!

>> No.31725128

>>31724754
That's also pretty old,

>>31724258
They also allow better quality control over their recruits, their forge having more time in making their armor and weapons.

I've only read to one HH book, Know No Fear in it, Marines are one shot by bolters being ripped apart and flying back.

Meanwhile in the 40k books they shrug up bolter rounds only dropping if you hit them in the face or eye.

That's why Chaos Vets are even with modern marines Chaos Vets may have thousands of years expressen but Codex Marines just start better

>> No.31725176

>>31724970
nah

Black Legion are next

>> No.31725248

Isn't hating Newcrons the bandwagon for 2014?

>> No.31725258

>>31721705
No, their Primarch is a Tumblr teir faggot

Really how I am the only one who doesn't read his rant at Roboute Guilliman as one long "check your privilege" rant

yes yes only SJW he did went threw shit, but he refuses to get his nails remove and makes his Legion get them, while at the same time never shutting up about how bad having the Butcher's Nails is.

>> No.31725286

>>31725176
I'd rather hate on alpha fags some more.

>> No.31725290

>>31725248
no thats really fucking old.

get with the times man, now its hating the tau.

>> No.31725337

>>31725248
Its been like that since they came.

Oldcron fans just pop of ever few months to bitch about "Mah Lovercraft Robots!"

>> No.31725372

I'm so conflicted and confused /tg/


This is 40k. I NEED TO KNOW WHO TO HATE!

>> No.31725418

>>31725258
HH series as a whole is pretty much the tumblrization of 40k. Everything about the primarchs has been rebuilt so that it boils down to angsty blog posts about how dad beat me as a kid and I have unresolved issues and people are mean and life is hard.

That is, when it's not assassinating black guys.

>> No.31725423

>>31725372
hate the other fans.

>> No.31725426

>>31725372
>This is 40k. I NEED TO KNOW WHO TO HATE!

This is 40k. HATE EVERYONE!

>> No.31725438

>>31725286
That's cool I'm tried of their bullshit as well.

I'm talking more about how ADB up coming Black Legion book which I'm calling it, is going to make Abaddon the smuggest villain sue ever (with daddy issues of course) who's always right, always win and all the chaos followers love him

I already got that BS form Pandorax

>> No.31725540

>>31725418
True form what I've heard, minus Roboute Guilliman funny enough during Know No Fear he comes off as the rare normal guy who just on Tumblr, who just uses it to look at stuff he likes

>> No.31725554

>>31725426
Fuck the Salamanders!

>have to hide like pussies every 15 years

can't even defeat their own moon, how can they defeat the enemies of the emperor?

>> No.31725611

>Playing Spacemarine
>Exterminatus
>Have full customisation, since level 41
>Still roll up in a standard Ultramarine
>Outdo the hammer wielders with my chainsword
>Outdo the hammer and chainsword wielders with my meltagun and plasma rifle
>UltramarinesFuckYeah.webm

>> No.31725643

>>31725258

Actually Angron couldn't remove the nails without killing him. Even the Emperor didn't know how to remove them without killing him. Also his legion accepted the nails hoping that if they broke themselves upon the same anvil as him hopefully they would understand him.

>> No.31725699

>>31725643
I don't believe that.
Nah, the Emperor is a master reality warper.

>> No.31725793

>>31725699
The Nails in the HH series are basically a DM Fiat.
>Can I remove them?
>"No."
>Can I turn them off?
>"No."
>...can I at least modify them?
>"No, move on."
>Fuck you, I've got a +20 to dark age tech and I can't even modify the settings?
>"I said no."

It would have been much more interesting if the Emperor could have removed them but Angron wouldn't let him.
>Also his legion accepted the nails hoping that if they broke themselves upon the same anvil as him hopefully they would understand him.
This is also a stupid retcon, in line with the whole HH series carefully removing or playing down the character flaws in the traitor primarchs so that they can amp up the wangst factor and blame evil dad and evil childhood for everything.

>> No.31725833

>>31725643
Bullshit he could fine a way to do it.

>> No.31726164

>>31725793
Yeah but ADB is a dumbass who can't help but write about his daddy issues.

>It would have been much more interesting if the Emperor could have removed them but Angron wouldn't let him.
>Also his legion accepted the nails hoping that if they broke themselves upon the same anvil as him hopefully they would understand him.
This is also a stupid retcon, in line with the whole HH series carefully removing or playing down the character flaws in the traitor primarchs so that they can amp up the wangst factor and blame evil dad and evil childhood for everything.

All of this would make what Roboute Guilliman told him about being a slave to the past a lot more meaning full.

But we can't have that! Because Angron is a poor woobie (I know tropes bs)

>> No.31726604

>>31725793
>>31726164

I guess it would have made it more interesting in some ways but the Emperor would have bitch slapped Angron into unconsciousness and removed them regardless. Also I do like the recons and as with any recon some will like it and some will hate it. I like the recons as it shows the Emperor wasn't some brilliant awesome majestic being who could do no wrong, it shows he could make mistakes. It also shows that the Primarchs turned had actual reasons rather than "fuck it, lets turn."

>> No.31726951

>>31726604
>I like the recons as it shows the Emperor wasn't some brilliant awesome majestic being who could do no wrong, it shows he could make mistakes.
Yeah, I thought that was an interesting idea too. The first time it was done. Now it's in every cockshitting book with fuckup piled on top of fuckup so that the writers can wring cheap drama out of "by MY special snowflake was right all along and his dad was mean!" McNeill and ADB are by far the most egregious defenders with shit like Nikaea being rewritten so that everyone's IQ drops to below their shoe size. Should the Emperor be perfect? No, of course not, but by the same token he should've be such a complete fuckup that you have to wonder how the Great Crusade even got off the ground because he's so fucking bad at everything he touches.
>It also shows that the Primarchs turned had actual reasons rather than "fuck it, lets turn."
No, it does the OPPOSITE of that. The HH series takes all choice away from the Chaos primarchs and infantalizes them, making them poor little babies who were at the mercy of their evil rampaging dick of a father who would erase them and wreck their legions if they fucked up and bawww I never wanted to be a soldier I just wanted to grow flowers and write books and I'm so saaaaaad. There's no give and take in the series any more, the Chaos primarchs are all scrubbed clean of character flaws and everything is blamed on the Emperor and terrible childhoods. Stuff like Angron forcing the World Eaters to use the Nails is scrubbed out, Perturabo being a raging dick is played down, Magnus being a self-deluded ass is played down, Lorgar being a psychotic religious nutjob is played down in favor of showing the mean bad Emperor bulldozing one of his favorite planets in front of him while the series quietly forgets that the Word Bearers routinely tortured populations to death to force worship of the Emperor.

>> No.31726980

>>31719159
there is a traitor "loyal" legion though

the dark angels

>> No.31726992

>>31718776
I don't hate them.

I just think they're incredibly boring.

>> No.31726998

>>31720284
>thinking the big emprah actually has anything to do with appointing champions amongst the BTs
>not realizing the chaplains subtly drug the marines in a ceremony and simply picks the first guy that starts to get stoned

>> No.31727071

>>31726951
It does get somewhat annoying with daddy issues in each book but we can't do much about it. I think the only reason why the Great Crusade started is because it had nothing to do with being a father. Some of the things in the HH series is still there as Lorgar being a religious nutjob and Magnus thinking he knew better than the Emperor. I can see why people are pissed about the recons, all the shit was too vague and when GW decided to go into it most people got butthurt.

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