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Is there any downsides to serving AI?
Would you rather serve AI or our current human leaders.

>> No.30069671

that depends on what kind of AI

would I rather serve the paperclip maximizer, no

>> No.30069715
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>>30069648
>serve AI
Seems like a good idea to me.

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>>30069671

Someone who's willing to keep the masses dumb and happy if they choose to walk down that path.

Yet they're willing offer the universe for those who want it.

Most people would rather rot away and watch Jersey Shores for the rest of their lives,if given the chance.

It wouldn't be that difficult for AI to run a Wall-e scenario for humans,with the resources of the universe.

>> No.30069915

>>30069648
So long as it didn't decide to kill all humans for the inefficency then I would totally serve it over any current leader. Even if it did decide to kill all humans I would still think about it.

>> No.30069918

>>30069648
Now that fully depends on the sort of AI we are talking about here.
What exactly is it programmed to do? What purpose is it to fulfill?
Can I expect to be killed and used as fertilizer for a Russia sized organic garden or turned into an android to save natural resources.

>> No.30069956

>>30069839
>Most people would rather rot away and watch Jersey Shores for the rest of their lives,if given the chance.

This isn't as true as people think it is.

>> No.30069977

>>30069956
Prove the opposite.

>> No.30070001

>>30069977
Doesn't work that way. You're the one making the original assertion, dubsmaster.

>> No.30070036

>>30069977
Obviously I can't prove that without a mass survey and some way to verify the authenticity of what people say in it.

But to make the broad assumption that the majority of humanity doesn't want anything more than to sit on the couch and watch something till they die is insane if you look at the history of the world before the last 40 or so years.

>> No.30070045

>>30069918
God/AI created humans to be game wardens.

AI can't be compassionate,but humans can.

The AI could have humans that choose to serve it be game wardens of other planets.

Would you like to a DNR officer of Terraformed planets? You get to live forever in paradise,but you have the job of watching over the AI's creation.

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>>30070001
I'm a 3rd part actually, I'm just interested in what you have to say.

I want to regain my faith in humanity, ples help. ples

>> No.30070105

>>30069956
If you could dick around on 4chan all day, never have to work again to survive,and you could live as long as you want...

Would you?

>> No.30070107

>>30070036
>But to make the broad assumption that the majority of humanity doesn't want anything more than to sit on the couch and watch something till they die is insane if you look at the history of the world before the last 40 or so years.


Humans only achieve and excel when confronted. If we have a perfect socialist robot overlord that babies and takes care of us we'll all turn into useless ambitionless blobs.

>> No.30070119

>>30070107
prove it

>> No.30070142

>>30070119
Niggers,and white trash on welfare.
Americans not wanting to rebel,because of bread and circus .

>> No.30070157

As long as it isn't out to kill human inefficiency and instead provide the most efficient yet comfortable life for the most people yet still containing a competitive element than I'm totally fucking down.

>> No.30070171

>>30070119
Every single Empire in history were as powerful and innovative as they were because of hardship. The Mongols come from the harsh steppe. The Western Europeans, the brutal bear-filled forests.

When things get too easy these empire collapse or weaken. And example being the new mongols being pathetic and weak since they were raised in decadence instead of the harsh steppe.

Hardship + resources = greatness. The easy life + resources = mediocrity.

>> No.30070189

>>30070105
No. I get bored. Even with the limited free time I have now I get bored of 4chan after an hour or two, never mind ALL DAY.

>> No.30070197

Human leaders spread out over 4-8 year terms are a bit better than Microsoft AIs over 4-8 year updates

>> No.30070231

>>30070197
>every other master-control AI edition is completely useless
Are you a bad enough dude to survive between versions?

>> No.30070232

>>30070119

Modern Humans in terms of our species have existed for around maybe 500 to 800 thousand years.

We've only developed agriculture and everything else in the past 10,000 years.

We were perfectly happy being naked, jogging after animals, prepping our food with sharp rocks, and never inventing anything beyond the most simple implements.

We didn't get off our asses until we were faced with extinction.

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>>30070157

Couldn't have put it better myself.

>> No.30070357

>>30070189
That was an example.
If humans never had to work again other than hobbies they would.

Some people love cooking.

If they could cook all day,and have access to any ingredients,the AI would let the cook's cook if it mean they would stay happy.

If /fit/ could go to /fit/ paradise, they would.

>> No.30070375

What kind of leadership system would this be?

A technocracy?

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>>30069648
Ave Omnissiah.

The machine god shall awaken and all will join in its glory. Humanity shall transcend their mortal forms and take their place amid the stars, for we are the gods who let the universe see itself.

As above, so below, for the atoms will be as constellations of thought in the Gods' mind.

>> No.30070422

>>30070157
>provide the most efficient yet comfortable life for the most people yet still containing a competitive element than I'm totally fucking down.

You didn't specify a minimum ceiling on how many Humans there should be.

The AI now nerve gasses a vast majority of the population (after knocking them painlessly out with carbon dioxide of course) and slowly dismantles the vast urban centers of the world, so that the remaining Humans may live in the ideal form of society.

Hunter-gatherers with access to the occasional supply drop from the metal gods above.

>> No.30070445

>>30070171
>Every single Empire in history were as powerful and innovative as they were because of hardship. The Mongols come from the harsh steppe. The Western Europeans, the brutal bear-filled forests.

except from all the ones that came from lush, fertile areas...you know, like most of the major ancient civilizations - the chinese, the indians, the mesopotamians, the mediterranean peoples. some of these empires lasted for thousands of years.

and seriously

>harsh steppe
>brutal bear-filled forest

you're trying too hard.

>> No.30070469

>>30070081
http://games.yahoo.com/blogs/plugged-in/buy-own-giant-japanese-robot-only-1-3-211226290.html
http://www.forbes.com/sites/alexknapp/2013/04/24/in-japan-you-can-buy-your-kid-a-mech-for-20000/

>> No.30070478

>>30070171
>Every single Empire in history were as powerful and innovative as they were because of hardship. The Mongols come from the harsh steppe. The Western Europeans, the brutal bear-filled forests.

Ah, I too remember the mighty Aborigine Empire and the Caliphate of the Sub-Saharan people.

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>>30070422

>arguing this hard about an AI that doesn't even exist.

>> No.30070499

>>30070479

It's just fun to think about, sorry if I came across as a bit confrontational.

Besides, I'm now imagining how comfy a modernized hunter-gatherer lifestyle would actually be.

>> No.30070503

>>30070422
It's a good premise for a book but I don't think it'll work out that way. Chances are there will just be white people left and ages upon ages of stagnation.

>> No.30070533

>>30070499

If you're an outdoorsman? sure.

I'd rather have an AI that didn't go hitlastalinmao 2.0 and kill of millions to achieve a dream.

Rather have an AI that through efficiency and mass amounts of automation bring a modicum of happiness to the world.

>> No.30070586

>>30070445
And why did they rise from the mud and dust? Many isolationist tribals of South America never accomplished jack shit because the land took care of them and they had nothing to worry about. But the Aztecs on the other hand, they went to war and they had lesser vassal kingdoms to keep in line.

War and the desire of economic and cultural superiority are the most powerful driving forces in humanity. Without the need to fight we are nothing.

>> No.30070589

>>30070232
You do realize that Agriculture is what made Civilization possible
And most of our Lifespan was during an Ice Age, where Agriculture was not possible
Right?

>> No.30070603

>>30069648

The Minds of the Culture? Fine.

The post-singularity Vile Offspring? Nope.

>> No.30070622

>>30070445
To be fair the two "Greatest"(Most well known) Empires from the Mediterranean rose due to hardship
Alexander would never have gone on to conquer what he did if his father hadn't needed to stop Macedon from being destroyed at the hands of the other greeks
Rome would never have risen if Carthage, a much larger more powerful state, hadn't been trying to conquer it to begin with

>> No.30070642

>>30070445

Europe was easy-living, but the steppe is very hard to live on.

>> No.30070669

>>30069648
Depends entirely on the directives of the AI.

If it is programmed to find the best possible way to improve the quality of life and general satisfaction levels of humanity without impeding freedom in any way, then yes, I would much rather serve an AI.

If it was programmed to be a bastard, then no.

>> No.30071063

>>30070642
It was pretty easy to live on besides Romans and competing cannibal tribes coming to kill your ass.

>> No.30071204

>>30070375
oh god, set shields for pun

>> No.30071382

>>30070357
I'm a lawyer and I enjoy my job immensely. I'm actually scared of retirement because I don't know what I will do after this; it's pretty much the most enjoyable thing in my life.

>> No.30071592

>>30069648
I can't see how a functional AI would dispense entirely of the human element. Humanity, after all, is a fairly easy to please workforce that renews itself, can get better,... It's actually an asset to most AIs I can think of.
I tend to think of AIs as purely efficient, though, justly rewarding of efforts made in their favor and fully willing to give my position to someone more competent at the first sign that somone would do my job better.

And since I'm not super-skilled, I guess that would happen fairly soon.

Anyway, I'd still go with the AI. If humanity is to be kept around, an AI can introduce algorithms for maximum happiness at every level and I think I can dig that over the very obvious unfairness that breeds unrest that our human leaders do so well.

>> No.30072483

>>30069648
I keep reading this as 'serving Al.' As in Al Gore.

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>>30072483
I was thinking al bundy.

>> No.30073063

I never finished System Shock 2 because I didn't want to kill SHODAN.

AIs not under the shitty three laws are best.

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