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Is there any hope of ever seeing a new faction being introduced to 40k?

>> No.28636293

If there is, I can guarantee it'll be awful.

>> No.28636305

What if it's space Dwarves themed around Diesel-punk mining Equipment and Colonial marines?

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I hear Squats are back
You seen all the Squat models?
Man I love me some Squats

>> No.28636320

It's GW, they'll find a way to make it awful.

>> No.28636349

What army from Fantasy hasn't been reintroduced in 40K?

>> No.28636367

Vampire Counts?

>> No.28636374

Then I would just play Rochard. Seriously, that game is like Space Dwarves 101

>> No.28636384

Ogre Kingdoms, Vampire Counts and Brettonia

Dwarfs and Wood elfs have been introduced but not as an independent faction

>> No.28636394

Only one without playable representation, but Old Ones
>Vampire Counts?
IG and/or Hrud.

>> No.28636403

Oh ya Skaven and Lizardmen too, keep forgetting about them

>> No.28636406

Necrons are Tomb Kings Dingus.

>> No.28636410

> Brettonia

Space Marines

>> No.28636414

why would you want that?
they already have problems maintaining the available factions, some armies go for years without an updated codex for whatever the current edition is at any given time

>> No.28636422

Theyre a little of both.

>> No.28636423

>Vampire counts

I want to slap you so hard m8.

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I get the vampire count feel from the blood angels, if you haven't heard the news Newcrons are tomb kings in sphess.

>> No.28636484

If he meant the Oldcrons, he is right. ''Star'' Vampires and their shambling dead legions.

Well, now the Necrons are mostly Tomb Kings but there is nothing stopping you from having a Space Vampire leading a faction of them.

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> Brettonia

Dark Angels, mounted and on foot knights

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And they are serving the Tau.

>> No.28636522

Dark Eldar goes with the gothic horror better.

>> No.28636523

It's like you've already forgotten about the Tau.

>> No.28636539

Old Crons were just more bland Space Tomb kings with some shitty chaos lite cthulu gods.

>> No.28636564

> Ogre Kingdoms
Ogryns in the IG.

> Skaven
The Ratlings in the IG, alternatively the Hrud.

> Brettonia
Some Space Marine chapters, I guess. Dark Angels?

> Lizardmen
Old Ones - which would be cool as fuck.

> Vampire Counts

> Wood Elves
Exodite Eldar.

> Chaos Dwarves
Now that'd be interesting to see.

>> No.28636572

Still Vampires and shambling mindless minions putting them very close to the Vampire Counts.

>> No.28636599

>Ratlings and Hrud.

Hrud are close, but fucking Ratlings? Seriously?

In that case Space Marines fill out Vamprie counts, Warriors of chaos TWICE, The Empire, Bretonnia and Dwarves just together.

>> No.28636604

>Brettonia quests because of Elves giving them cups
>Dark Angels used to have an Eldar Librarian

>> No.28636608

They could always bring in the Slaugh or the Rak'gol from the Fantasy Flight rpgs, they're both pretty different than the standard 40k fare.

>> No.28636615

We see new factions added to 40k all the time.
In the rpgs

>> No.28636626

he was an astropath, not a librarian

>> No.28636637

Space Marines don't have undead minions and they aren't evil bloodthirsty manipulative vampires.

I don't think so.

>> No.28636679

Blood Angels are sort of vampires.

>> No.28636683

>undead minions

Nigger please
>Nigger please
>Nigger please
Some of them literally are.

>> No.28636686

Aren't you thinking the ultras half-eldar astropath?

>> No.28636699

Do they command undead minions and happen to be evil manipulative bloodthirsty vampires out for power and control?

>> No.28636723

demiurg are part of the tau empire in BFG.

>> No.28636726

I don't see Marines commanding servitor armies and I don't see the Blood Angels as evil and scheming.

You are really stretching it.

>> No.28636739

that's the one the other poster is referencing. The half-eldar astropath was transferred to the Ultramarines from the Dark Angels.

>> No.28636751

>40K has Half-Eldar
>Fantasy has no Half-Elves

What a travesty.

>> No.28636763

Except for the undead minions it fits.

Space Marines are not nice people despite fighting for humanity.

>> No.28636805

>Space Marines are not nice people despite fighting for humanity.

The Blood Angels are as nice as it comes though. All nobly heroic and honorable. Even the Xenos tip their hats for the Blood Angels.

>> No.28636813

> Marines commanding servitor armies
That's awesome. Why is there no such thing?

>> No.28636843

Could look at just 2013 releases and say that the future will look different to the past. Unfortunately I doubt it'll be new factions, just a ton more supplementary sub-factions.

>> No.28636848

Then the Black Rage happens and the noble Space Marine is beating you to death with your own feet that he just tore off.

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It's our shtick.

>> No.28636871

I don't consider sub-factions a bad thing.

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>Vampire Counts =/= Necrons

>> No.28636995

Because work is hard.

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>Vampire Counts = Necrons

>> No.28637023

I hold out hope that when Tyranids get their new codex that one of the sub faction supplements we see will be genestealer cults. That would be so rad, but I expect that it just wont happen. They don't make hybrids anymore, nor do they seem to at all encourage people to get to grips and model and convert their minis. It's all just sterile paint by numbers and follow the instructions and don't deviate. Ever.

Wow that turned into a small rant. Sorry. Genestealers rule!

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>mfw Space Lizardmen / Old One Cabal Forces when???

Pic somewhat related, Loxatl mercenaries...

>> No.28637147

hate to be the bearer of bad news, but rumour I heard was GW IP lawyers have been getting very nervous about genestealers, especially the hybrid aspect of the fluff. This was from an indiscreet store manager. You might have to homebrew and just play with cool guys.

>> No.28637174

Yes after the quick releases of 40k you will see a new race afterwards.

Probably Hrud.

>> No.28637198

that sounds fucking horrible

>> No.28637219


>> No.28637224


Still better than Jokaeros though...

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Jokaeros are fun.

Why do you hate fun, Anon?

>> No.28637298

I was going to do a world eaters army when their supplement dropped but if we actually get stealer cults I may have my clear army choice.

Also at the rate theyre going with official releases well likely see 1 - 2 new races eventually.

Probably Squads and/or Hrud, id be ok with that.

>> No.28637326

jokaeros aren't getting their own army. If they gave squats a model for ig or something like that as a bodyguard Id be fine with that, but the squat armies were just stupid all around. If squats had never existed and Matt Ward announced them right now people would want his head. They are a bad idea that people only like now that its gone

>> No.28637391

>live free

>in service to the tau


>> No.28637587

The Tau grant considerably more freedoms than the Imperium.

Races living under them have a degree of self governance and autonomy. Of course, with Tau supervision and helping hand.

>> No.28637609

someone is forgetting how much life sucks in the imperium

>> No.28637619

I just wish the Tau wouldn't do the mandatory penis inspection day. I left the Imperium to get away from that shit.

>> No.28637637


issues, imperiumfag?

>> No.28637684

The problem I see is that nids would eat a genestealer cultist regardless of them being an ally or not. They wouldn't work together on the battlefield.

>> No.28637729


I want muh admech. Proxy IG is ok but not the same

>> No.28637756


Good point, but I hardly think that'd the most retarded thing going on on the allies chart

>> No.28637798

Those would be the Demiurg (like in OP's post>>28636274) and they are different than the Squats (to some point).

If it goes for our hammering, scrotum crushing, exo-armor piloting miner specialists/progressive inventors, it is rumored that GW retconned them back by saying that there was a gargantuan mistake in the Administratum.

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I hope the Squats will return at least as a supplement for the Imperial Guard. But then people would accuse the Guard Players for getting too much fancy vehicles.


>> No.28637908

Eh, I dont think we need another fantasy race pushed into 40k. I want to see something new.

>> No.28637922

They worked in Epic. And now 40k has basically become 28mm epic they may well work again

>> No.28637965

There are Felinids...plus Squats were before 4th edition retconned them.

Simply put, Squats were retconned because GW didn't know what to do with them. Now 40K is slowly coming full circle back to Rouge Trader times (probably) and there is going to be some awesome going around if GW will play it right.

>> No.28638010

I think the Zoats should be retconned back...

>> No.28638039

DEldar are represented by the DElves in Fantasy bro.

>> No.28638074

The miniature line can do without it, as can the wargame. Just play the RPGs if you want to read about new xenos.

>> No.28638095

>life sucks worse in the Imperium
>that automatically means I'm a free person in the Tau Empire

>> No.28638097

I think every army should have one new fancy thing, if I could get my hands on squats I would be happy

Rattlings can go to hell for all I care, but squats man

>> No.28638154

Oh, I already do that. I found a really nice genestealer cult fandex on warseer of all places. I think it's pretty well written, certainly no worse than what the official studio shits out these days. I'll probably dump the lot of them in the next pdf share thread I see.

>> No.28638216

Freedom doesn't exist in 40k. There is something behind every corner waiting to fuck you. Your best bet is downgrading the evil or becoming a daemon prince. Everything else is gonna suck.

>> No.28638284

I'd also like this to happen. Bonus points if they had one cool characteristic as WFB Dwarfs...inscribing grudges on every bullet, every grenade, every single missile and etc.

>> No.28640284

Unless you belong to a organization (like the Inquisition) that can work beyond the bars that limit others.

>> No.28641111

Just have them as an adjunct to the Tyranid list, so they use Genestealers and Broodlords and maybe some vanguard organisms like Lictors, or scenarios where Tyranids are literally dropping from the skies as the Cult uprising finally happens and the Hive Mind temporarily sees them as useful.

Then you can have all the fun of the Cult list on its own, but the thing has a reason to exist as part of the Tyranid line as well. So you still get a Magus and Patriarch and, I don't know, the other first-gen Purestrains that showed up with the Patriarch become some kind of super Elites unit, while you get normal Purestrains as Troops or Fast Attack or something.

Plus you get the opportunity to really upset any IG, Tau, Ork, Eldar players by cooking up some hybrids, you'd finally get a spot on the allies table (because you could ally, reasonably, with IG or someone without it being weird - at least until the spores started falling).

Half the fun of running a Cult army way back was that you could tear into someone's favorite unit with your purestrains, then the next time you saw that player you'd have a new hybrid in one of your squads... a suspiciously familiar looking hybrid. And some new cultists, too.

It really upset Space Wolves as I recall.

>> No.28641255

I want to see the Adeptus Mechanicus introduced as its own faction.

>> No.28642294

In terms of game factions we sorta just got one with the Inquisition codex.

Word in the rumour mill is that 6th ed is meant too be more long term and once everyone is updated we might start seeing new factions.

There's also been rumblings of mercs codex which might see things like hrud and tallern dog soldiers given stats.

>> No.28642374

Tyranids don't eat anything notable numbers until the late stages invasion is won.
Cultists would definitely be left alive and fighting the defenders in the early-mid stages of invasion.

Cultists fighting alongside the swarm is the example reason given in apocalypse, though there's no real reason it should be limited too that.
Maybe not BB level but allies of convenience would fit well.

>> No.28642428

There's no real reason you can't just fantasy dwarves as regular guardsmen.

Its what an old vet did too add too his squat army when he started up 6th ed again at the local GW.

>> No.28642453

They have been. There's a picture of one in the current rulebook.

>> No.28643182


Depends on if you count the AM as new or not

Also I really hope they leave the Squats in the background where they belong, stop trying to fucking force DORFS XD into everything.

>> No.28644554

they will not add Hurd (skaven) or Squats (dwarfs) to 40k.. their hole thing now is encourage people to have as many armys as possible across both fantasy and 40k and will not want to let people dubble up.

if they introduce a new army it will be some thing totally new like tau.

also reintroducing squats or chaos dwarfs would just remind players that GW fucked up really bad and make every one scared of spending big on a obscure army of the month so no chance for them at all.

>> No.28645092

Really? That's my favorite day of the year.

>> No.28645143

FW does Chaos Dorfs already.

>> No.28645176

FW does chaos dwarfs and introduce Admech as a new faction, your argument is invalid.

>> No.28645308

Not if GW have any sense.

They've already got more factions than they can comfortably keep balanced.

Which means you can probably expect to see a new faction next year.

>> No.28649551

we are talking about GW not FW tard

>> No.28649566

admech is hardly a full army more of a allies detachment like inquisitor

>> No.28650610

It will be a full army list soon enough.

>> No.28651103

FW is GW.

>> No.28651376

Since they dropped Be'lakor into 40K, we might get something else from Warhammer Fantasy.

Like the Gods of Order, just to fuck with people.

>> No.28651590

Really? I need to go and take a look.

>> No.28651626

How about some chaos marines dedicated too the chaos God of atheism.

>> No.28651857

There was also the business of some high fantasy fuckwad on the design team getting butthurt about squats being disrespectful to 'then noble dwarf'. So there was an element of stop looking what i don't like at work.

>> No.28651880

*stop liking

>> No.28651907

Or they bring in the Demons of Malice as some sort of demonic Grey Knights.

>> No.28652147

Chaos marines that worship the god of not believing in god.

>> No.28652166

Do they wear tiny fedoras?

>> No.28652202

Indeed. And instead of bolters, they attempt to destroy you with their smug sense of superiority.

>> No.28652271

> Brothers, in this moment we are euphoric, not because of some phony gods' blessing, but because we're enlightened by our own intelligence.
Every unit on the battlefield gets the Hatred rule against these guys.

>> No.28652288

>the foe's mind is hidden within the oppressive metal box called "faith". With rational arguments we will take away their metal boxes

>> No.28652332

> Faith is the first step on the road to disappointment.

>> No.28652377

Except for their sworn Battle Brothers, the Tau.

>> No.28652388

wouldn't they eat them last though?

>> No.28652399

Well, that was the previous generation. Now Squats would probably be handled differently if they were reintroduced back as a army.

Plus Zoats should join the Tau. Only logical thing.

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It wasn't one guy, it was all of them, including Rick Priestley himself.


>No, the reason that the Squats were dropped was because the creatives in the Studio (people like me, Rick, Andy C, Gav etc) felt that we had failed to do the Dwarf 'archetype' justice in its 40K incarnation. From the name of the race (Squats - what *were* we thinking?!?!) through to the short bikers motif, we had managed to turn what was a proud and noble race in Warhammer and the other literary forms where the archetype exists, into a joke race in 40K. We only fully realised what we had done when we were working on the 2nd edition of 40K. Try as we might, we just couldn't work up much enthusiasm for the Squats. The mistake we made then (deeply regreted since) was to leave them in the background and the 'get you by' army list book that appeared. With hindsight, we should have dropped the Squats back then, and saved ourselves a lot of grief later on.

>Anyway, the Squats made it into 2nd edition, and since we were doing army books for each of the races, we started to try and figure out what to do with them. Unfortunately we just couldn't figure out a way to update them and get them to work that we felt was good enough. The 'art' of working on an army as a designer is to find the thing that you think is cool and exciting about an army, and work it up into a strong theme. This 'muse' didn't strike any of us, and so, rather than bring out a second-rate product simply re-hashing the old background, we kept doing other army books instead, with stuff we did feel inspired by.

>> No.28652504

Necoho, the chaos god of atheism, is already canon in fantasy.

>> No.28652888

The Tau are fedorians too?

>> No.28652979

The most fedorian of them all is the sect known as the We'eh A'boo, or the Sect of the Thousandfold Blade.

>> No.28653037

I actually really like the idea of a god that influences people into doubting other faiths and so gains unwitting believers among people who oppose all other gods.

>> No.28653383

GW designers have gone on record as saying they don't want direct translations of Fantasy armies into 40,000. So trying to figure out what new race there'll be from Fantasy won't work.

Is there any hope in the future? Yes, I think it's a distinct possibility. I don't think it will happen for a long time though and if it does happen, I think it could be a sign of GW being in dire straits and taking a gamble.

As said, GW struggles to update the existing armies. I wouldn't expect a new faction until GW stops their codex-creep and trying to release a new game edition every decade. When that stops, there would be time to refine what exists already as well as add new elements.

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>> No.28653440

With their current schedule, they could have all codexes updated by the end of 2014. They definitely won't do a new army before then, but I could see it happening after. They've really been mixing things up, especially the lady month or so.

>> No.28653561

I am trying to think of sci-fi archtypes that could possible be added to 40K but honestly I don't know.

Well we are lacking the trading faction but it just doesn't fit on the fluff and Rogue Trades somewhat already fill that spot

>> No.28653663

Fish people
Lizard people (sort of, nids cover this a bit)
Squid people

Just different coloured people really. No personality archetypes.

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>GW designers have gone on record as saying they don't want direct translations of Fantasy armies into 40,000.

I can easily believe that. The question is, how long ago?

>> No.28653686

>Fish people


>Lizard people (sort of, nids cover this a bit)

Nids do sorta fill this but a lizardmen/ other old one creation would be alright

>Squid people

Nids somewhat fit this too

>> No.28653704

The Tau aren't fish.

They come from a dry desert planet. If you are wondering why their tanks and crafts are given fish names, it's because its the Imperials who are giving them those names.

>> No.28653706

Tyranids already cover bugs, Necrons and the Ad Mech cover robots, Tau and Rogue Traders cover the trade faction, Orks and DEldar cover pirates, the Slann and the Old Ones cover the precursors...

Something like energy beings?

>> No.28653708

>Necrons = Tomb Kings
>No Nagash


>> No.28653713

>dry desert planet

I was under the impression it was a plains

>> No.28653717

>Something like energy beings?

C'tan and Daemons cover that.

>> No.28653721

>Something like energy beings?

Well in some ways Chaos Daemons and warp related stuff already fits that

>> No.28653725

They look an awful lot like fish

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My mistake.

It's hot, dry, and mostly Savannah plains. The Tau are gazelles or wildebeests

>> No.28653755

After Tau were introduced. So, a while ago.

C'tan, but they've been effectively squatted.

Tau aren't merchants so much as diplomats.

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>C'tan, but they've been effectively squatted.

Hello (picture related)

>Tau aren't merchants so much as diplomats.

The Water Caste are merchants and diplomats. The Tau use trade as one of their weapons to spread their culture and influence.

It's not for no reason that Tau merchandise made it deep in the Imperium.

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Didn't you get the memo? There is no "fun".

>> No.28653806

Fuck, you're right. I guess hyper-advanced nanotech civilization is also under the Necron's turf. Beings inside the matrix? Possibly them again. Being bioengineered to perfection is the Tyranids and the Old Ones' territory.

What about psychic crystalline beings? Or would that remind people too much of the Eldar and their Wraithbone constructs?

>> No.28653807

That's the problem I run into, especially if you take away "Warhammer Fantasy, but in Space" stuff since they've said they don't want that. Forgeworld specifically had Mymeara kill off the Lizardmen.

The only thing I've come up with is to base them around the most basic themes of 40K: have a race that is starting to unknowingly be corrupted by Chaos. So they've got sorcerors, and certain units that can sacrifice something to gain something else based around Chaos. However, they haven't been overcome completely. Have their fluff based around different factions struggling back and forth over this, leaving the end result up to the player.

The real problem, is how do you make a faction suddenly relevant on a galactic scale? They're still struggling with that on Tau even, especially since they took away their FTL

>> No.28653830

>Tau aren't merchants so much as diplomats.

Probably for the best, who would they trade with?

>> No.28653833

>>>Chaos tau<<<

>> No.28653835

I know. I meant to bring him properly into 40k too.

>> No.28653846

Rogue Traders, Alien worlds, Imperial worlds, etc.

You guys never read what happened on Taros? The Tau used their trade to secretly assimilate that planet.

>> No.28653855

Farsight Enclave.

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>If you are wondering why their tanks and crafts are given fish names, it's because its the Imperials who are giving them those names.

I've only seen it brought up in the Imperial Infantryman's Uplifting Primer which, while a questionable source for obvious reasons, says the Tau give them the fish names and no one knows why. And look at a vehicle belonging to another alien race, the Falcon. That name is a translation of the actual Eldar word, FaolchĂș, rather than just something Imperials made up.

>> No.28653882


I personally think Squats are dumb, and I'm really, really glad they're gone. Most of the Rogue Trader material was actually pretty stupid: 40K has been moving towards a slightly more serious and dignified aspect - Particularly in Abnett's and ADB's versions of the 'verse - and I rather enjoy that.

I mean, Abnett made the Inquisition cool. Under Ian Watson, it was incredibly fucking stupid.

>> No.28653885

no exactly chaos but could use extra development

>> No.28653891

>psychic crystalline beings
Eldrad says hi.

>> No.28653911

Talking parrots.

>> No.28654003

Crystal people is good.

There are plenty of races that are mentioned in one breath as if they are more significant than the Tau. There could be a pre-existing xenos species that's just been around but hasn't been talked about much.

Or maybe some recent Chaos incursion opened up their part of space. Or maybe they're fleeing Tyranids.

I've read in White Dwarf and a Tau codex that the fish names are just imperial designations.

Tau names would be more like "Glorious Whisper of a Cherry Blossom on a Titanium Spring"

The Imperium has been in contact with the Eldar for over 10,000 years and has numerous xenologists who study their myths and language.

>> No.28654055

True, one of the themes in 40K is how big the universe is. There's lots of room to play in for a reason. But still, I'm not sure the best way to make a new official faction actually matter on a galactic scale in fitting with the other factions.

>> No.28654064

Yeah eldar wraith armies already cover your psychic crystal (or at least not fleshy) guys.

>> No.28654082

Forge world is working on it broski.

>> No.28654094

Maybe something from the galactic core? There's a lot of supermassive black holes there, who knows what's hidden in the most dangerous part of the galaxy.

>> No.28654106

also the thing the Tyranids are running from.

>> No.28654111

Possibly. I was trying to think of some sort of forced diaspora that still lets the faction stay interconnected without "non-Webway", or even worse, just stealing the Webway.

>> No.28654143

That could include some Old Ones and their ridiculous psychic tech. Or a race that has mastered FTL travel without the need for the webway gate. Could easily tie in with >>28654106

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Rak'Gol would be nice, though I'm not sure if they could stand up to other races if not fluff-buffed.

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>I've read in White Dwarf and a Tau codex that the fish names are just imperial designations.

Do you have a more specific citation than that? I don't recall seeing it in the 3rd, 4th or 6th edition codex or the designers' notes. Granted, it's the kind of thing that would be easily overlooked, but I've seen the claim - and many others - with no source enough times to become skeptical.

>> No.28654252

That's not really a thing. Its in universe an imperial scholars wild speculation, in the same paragraph he also proposes that tyranids might be an unbeatable force of nature as old as the universe itself.
Besides tyranids aren't acting like something fleeing
They're slowly and systematically attacking the milky way not fleeing through it.

>> No.28654294

Have bird people been done yet? Our dies Tzeentch kinda cover that?

>> No.28654325
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Hrud or bust.

>> No.28654333

It's a long-standing thing that all codices are written from the point of view of the Imperium, which is why 'nids all have names and what have you.

>> No.28654337

That was the original spec for Kroot. Giant cannibalistic bird-people.

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You have to conceptualize an archetype that hasn't been touched on yet in a deep manner. So unless GW does something totally new, we go back to the Squats (who suck) or further flesh out the Damirung (who are already allied to the Tau). Considering this we have a few choices.

The Umbra are basically a race of shoggoths; cool, but not varied enough for a conceivable army list. And as far as figures go, a poor choice both to paint and model.

The 40k version of the Slaan who exist in the lore already and have been the pseudo stand-in race for the Old Ones. A theoretical widely varied army here with plenty of figure and model potential, but at the same time they represent massive issues with shoehorning and cheese; as well they're also just the Slaan from fantasy battles, but with guns and their ever-present sorcery rape, so that makes them rather boring.

Then you have the Hrud. Advanced and potentially powerful but are they rat-men? Just space Skaven, or are they man crickets? Not really fleshed out as I've seen both examples. That said, on a good point, space scavengers/junkers haven't really been done outside the Orks, who only scavenge in their very unique orky way. Regardless, the Hrud actually seem to me like a potential Tau troop choice rather than their own army, but at the same time there is enough about them in the fluff that they could be made into something greater.

>> No.28654544

>You have to conceptualize an archetype that hasn't been touched on yet in a deep manner.

Or you can just repeat everyone else's stuff ala Necrons. Really, all you have to do to get a new faction released, is convince GW that they need a new faction to make more money. They'll stitch something together out of whateverthefuck ideas they have lying around if they think something new will mean boosted sales.

>> No.28654710

Necrons, despite their issues between new and old regardless represent concepts absent from armies you could field in 40k. Either robotic Tomb Kings or Not-terminators, either way they represent a choice you can take that is clearly distinct from the other armies.

>> No.28654747

Monstrous creatures faction is missing. Nids don't really cover that. Race of carnifex sized xenos would be nice.

>> No.28654799

So, what? Like Ogres in fantasy? Lots of points but few in number?

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Just give the Legio Cybernetica and Adeptus Mechanicus their own codex together.

>> No.28654904

That was suggested maybe once among many theories, the way the tyranids are surrounding and attacking wouldn't make it seem like they're running.

IF they were, whatever was chasing them would be able to solo the galaxy

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Giant enemy space crabs?

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Going with ye old psionic murderous space frogs. Could use them as the anti-tau. Amassing the more feral, destructive B races in 40k to war under them.

>> No.28655361

Won't happen. It'd prove more popular than spess muhreens, and GW can't stop wanking over them long enough to give more than a token though towards anything else.

>> No.28655409

There's Imothek The Stormlord...and he's 'Totally not a Settra in Space'.

>> No.28655883

Forgeworld already did it and GW always avoids competing with them if possible so that's not happening.

>> No.28655906

FW did it because GW wasn't going to.

And even then, FW just shoe-horned it into the Horus Heresy bullshit.

>> No.28655935

Well I'm just saying that now they definitely aren't doing it. Also the Mechanicum will be getting a full book from Forgeworld later on, they're just releasing the units piece-meal so that when they compile all the rules into a full book all the models will already be available.

>> No.28658580

>implying it's not Ethereals

>> No.28658601

>GW designers have gone on record as saying they don't want direct translations of Fantasy armies into 40,000.
Maybe so, but both lines have gotten more similar in their current editions.

>> No.28660371

To be fair, if you're speaking of Necrons and their new Egyptian shtick, that's actually how they were originally. Oldcrons veered off in design, not the other way around.

Also there are plenty of potential aliens out there, several by lore to have been tampered with by the Old Ones and who have next to nothing known or written about them, so if GW really felt it necessary something would be made... problem is making them unique enough for anyone to care.

For instance, the Paramours of the Morpheus Rift (whatever the fuck they are) are described as a "horrible threat" and for the Imperium not to have butchered them like so many other aliens, that must be true.

>> No.28664639

Could bring back the Yu'vath... They were interesting.

>> No.28666597

The tail is confirmed to be a male Hrud's penis in Xenology.

>> No.28666725

> Not just creating your own NPC race with your friends that serve as a third party faction in your campaigns in match
> Not having everyone contribute and vote on which units and fluff is added to your own race and ending up with something potentially unique or horrifying
> Not creating parasitic robot necromorphs that feed on all the races and spreads death to everyone, including Necrons
> Not using Creature Feature and VDR to create challenging shit to beat in Apoc and then creates a narrative where you and your bud's commanders team up blowing the heads off of their undead former allies

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