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How do the Sisters of Battle view lesbians?

>> No.28167936

With their eyes.

>> No.28167970

This is a thread that deserves to be on /tg/.

>> No.28168149

As moral support.

>> No.28168193

>>28167910
The same way they view all love:

"Why aren't you directing it at the Emprah."

>> No.28168245

>>28167910
righteous recreation that must be pursued when resting between training routines and prayer, if you wish to pursue such endeavor we advise our Sisters to use the Lesbos chamber, disregard the cameras.

-Adeptus Sororitas codes of conduct, tome XXIV.a3,chapter 456; "Recreation, fit of body, fit of mind", page 10078

>> No.28168473

>>28167910
are they faithful? if so, good; if not, burn.
>>28167936
would s sister of battle who lost an eye get it replaced by some AdMech eye?

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>>28168473
>female tech priest installs bionic eye in sister which causes her to gain permanent yurivision

>> No.28169004

>>28168945
>>28168473
There is a romance fic in this.

>> No.28169014

With a mirror.

>> No.28169073

Just like the Softball team.

>> No.28169256

>>28167910

They in all incredible likelihood don't give a shit

The Imperial Creed has no set view on such things because it has to be flexible in order to take root among the millions of different cultures across the galaxy. The only real rigid tenets are to worship the Emperor in some form, purge heretics, beware psykers and mutants, hate aliens, and obey the Imperium.

>> No.28169300

The religion of the imperium of man holds the human form sacred so they are probably are more religiously ok with anything you might care to do with another human body. (as long as you also have reproductive het sex at some point too, thats duty not pleasure)

they are probably less tolerant of sex toys and furry and the like.

>> No.28169336

>>28169256
this. 40k isn't a grimdark universe because it's sexist/homophobic/racist - it's grimdark because there is only war.

>>28169300
eh, you could probably get away with sperm/egg donation
and i doubt they care that much.
human life is the cheapest currency, after all.

>> No.28169361

In the grim-derp of the 40k universe, there is only masturbation

>> No.28169376

"And lo, the blessed personage of the God-Emperor did look upon the women's regiment, and he did look kindly upon and bless their short hair. He turned to his adeptus astartes, as they marched in his footsteps, and he did speak thus, 'I love lesbians.' So did the blessed emperor speak, and thus is the truth of this order."

~The Holy Records of the Sisters of St Tribadia, Ordo Hospitalier, Ch 2, Vs 8-10

>> No.28169386 [DELETED] 

>>28169014

thread/

>> No.28169393

>>28169336
>eh, you could probably get away with sperm/egg donation
probably, yes. I imagine the upper class rocks it that way.

>human life is the cheapest currency, after all.
and the imperium is broke enough to be pinching pennies.

>> No.28169410

Provided said girl-on-girl action doesn't start creeping in to Slannesh territory, what two or more consenting servants of the Emperor do behind closed doors isn't really anyone else's business.

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>>28167910
>Lesbian SoB

...go on...

>> No.28169420

>>28169300
Excess is the problem.

So you can fuck your lesbo gf with a feeldo if you want, but you probably shouldn't start a writhing girl pile orgy where you drink holy wine out of another sister's pussy.

>> No.28169450

>>28169336

It's funny, someone pointed out yesterday how there is no racism (Using the more known definition) in 40k. There is speciesism and classism, but no racism.

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>>28168473
>admech eye
All veterans get augmetic eyes if they lose em, they arent exclusive to the admech. Its just the admech who has to install them.

>> No.28169494

>>28169450
Because it's fair to say that black people are less threatening than ethereal demons formed out of pure emotion and giant planet devouring bug swarms.

>> No.28169508

>>28168945
>>28169004
I actually have a picture of a techpriestess lovingly installing a bionic arm on a battlescarred SoB, but its 2lewd4tg

>> No.28169531

>>28169508

>midnight
>mods online
>on /tg/

pick two.

>> No.28169548

>>28169531
>threads on /tg/
>dying before a mod gets to them

>> No.28169553

>>28169508
Worry not serf, I endure all, continue with the data upload

>> No.28169564

>>28167970
I would take a dozen LesboSoB threads over another quest thread.

>> No.28169568

>>28169508
You can just spoiler it.

>> No.28169598

>>28169564

Lesbian SoB quest this time tomorrow.

>> No.28169616

>>28169568
I could. Or...
>>>/d/5112486

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>>28169420

>> No.28169626

>>28169616
Ah, thanks.

>> No.28169647

>>28169625
in the name of the Emprah, control that boner!

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>>28169598
I'm holding you to this. It better have a damn good plot, too. I want to care about this lesbian SoB, dammit!

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>>28169616

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>>28169626
No problem. Its not even particularly raunchy, it just happens to have tits so it cant go here.
>>28169652
I really wish that guy would come back.

>> No.28169661

>>28169420
putting booze in vaginas is a no-no. I have to assume even enhanced space vaginas. ouch.

>> No.28169662

>>28169616
DO THEY MAKE OUT ON TOP OF A DREADNOUGHT?

THAT'S MY FETISH BROTHER-SERF

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28169713

I wish I could be a lesbian.

I'm sorry.

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>>28169658

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>>28169726

>> No.28169799

>>28169420
>where you drink holy wine out of another sister's pussy.

You'll have to take my word for it, but booze in vaginas = not a good combo
Kind of like nail file in penis hole

>> No.28169804

>>28169782
Dammit, I have no more.

>> No.28169817
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>>28169804

I'll post my last one.

>> No.28169827

>>28169799
Mixing pleasure and pain is all part of the Slaaneshi game.

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>>28169804
He only did two more of them together.

>> No.28169842

>>28169508

Post it on another board if you must, but I need to see this image.

>> No.28169868

Are Sisters willing to battle alongside Xenos in times of mutual peril, like the Guard and Marines sometimes do?

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>>28169842
And last one.
>>28169842
see >>28169616

>> No.28169899

>>28169868
It can't possibly be worse than fighting alongside certain unnamed marines.

>> No.28169912

>>28169868
Depends on the circumstances... but unlikely.
And they certainly wouldn't fight alongside xenos as if the xenos were 'equal' to humanity.

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>>28169868
Not likely. They have trouble fighting alongside abhumans, even.

>> No.28170176

Am I the only one who has the fantasy where I'm an Inquisitorial Stormtrooper stranded in the middle of some planet with a lone sister of battle, our only shelter being the crashed escape pod we used to flee a dying Inquisition space vessel after a bloody raid by khorne pirates, and I help her explore the human body while we await rescue?

>> No.28170278

>>28170176
you're probably one of the ones who has had this fantasy and not had it end with her BLAMing you for some form of heresy. Possibly actions that could be construed as slaaneshi.

>> No.28170337

>>28170176
DO THEY FIND A LONELY DREADNOUGHT AMIDST THE WRECKAGE? DO THEY HAVE A RIGHTEOUS THREESOME THAT ENDS IN THE SISTER ANOINTING THE DREADNOUGHT'S SARCOPHAGUS WITH HER 'HOLY UNGUENTS' JUST BEFORE THEY DESTROY ALL ENEMIES OF MAN IN HOLY RETRIBUTION?

IF SO THEN YOU'RE NOT ALONE

>> No.28170353

>>28170278
but she's fresh out of the schola, so she isn't a complete hardass yet, and she's at the age where she's getting a bit curious about her body...

Also I'm pretty sure I remember a comment in one of the Ciaphas Cain novels about how there were technically no rules against sisters "fraternizing" with guardsmen.

>> No.28170421

>>28170337
I'll be sure to work that part in next time, brother. A dreadnought would certainly help protect against more serious threats on said planet, and if naughty things happen to take place on top of that cold, armored sarcophagus... well so be it

>> No.28170426

Actual answer: they likely view lesbianism in others with indifference, whilst viewing in in themselves as a vile distraction from worship and training.

The answer that people want: they are all lesbians. For them it is a cultural norm.

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>>28170176
I exclusive ship my sisters with each other or techpriests.

>> No.28170483

>>28170337
Would you quit already? It wasn't funny the first time and it sure as hell isn't now

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>>28170337
BEGONE CLUMSY MARINE IN SILLY BOX, SHE ONLY HAS EYES FOR MY INFERNO GUN

ITS HUUUUGE!

>THERES ROOM IN HERE FOR 3
>BRING A FRIEND
>TITAN BAY #4

>> No.28170511

>>28170461
showing a techpriest how to enjoy her remaining fleshy parts is also a good one

>> No.28170542

>>28169376
Bah probably the horniest of sisters wrote that. The emperor was on his throne at the time sisters even became a thing.

>> No.28170553

>>28169376
>Sisters of St Tribadia
hue

>> No.28170579

>>28170542
>The emperor was on his throne at the time sisters even became a thing.
Which is why they took after the two things the Big E offhanded mentioned liking - short haired girls and lesbians.

>> No.28170617

>>28169598
You do that and I'll drawfag the bits I like

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>>28170579
Jinkies! Could this be the Sisters' spiritual progenitor?

>> No.28170666

>>28170627
She's only that to the Dialogus.

>> No.28170671

>>28170627
Not burny enough.

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>>28168945

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>>28170666
>666
>Dialogus
satanic confirmatiom

>> No.28170681

>>28170627
too liberal

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>>28170579
Stuck here on this throne for thousands of years and all you can think of is quoting me and humping each other. To the monitored repentia chambers with you !

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>>28170627
Velma is my spiritual liege.

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TWINS, THEY WERE.

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>this thread

>> No.28171101

>>28169410
...B-but... Muh Sapphic Sororita!

>>28169713
We all do Anon, we all do...

>>28169948
Warp damn it, you reminded me about Fluffy Celestian!!!

>>28170511
You mean a Tech Priestess, don't you?

>>28170579
I thought it was Dyed hair and Lesbians with Flame throwers?

>> No.28171658

>>28168945

>>Female tech-priest installs bionic eye in sister which allows her to spy on the sisters when they're in the showers.

>> No.28171692
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EXTREME SELF DENIAL

>> No.28171709

>>28169300
>furry and the like.

Then why are Space Wolves allowed?

>> No.28171720

>>28169494

unless you've never seen/heard of black people before, then your average imperial is likely to scream mutant.

>> No.28171770

>>28171658
>they watch the footage together and eat popcorn as a date

>> No.28171817

Considering the Sisters of Battle deny themselves all earthly pleasures, I think they go fuck yourself you magical realm piece of shit.

>> No.28171838

>>28169564

All the creativity of /tg/ gone. All that remains is warhammer.

>> No.28171864

>>28171692
Space Marines do the same thing, and look how many of them continue to fall.

>>28171709
Space Wolves aren't furries, they're vikings. Actual furries are called Beastmen, and they're a barely-tolerated underclass, when they're not being subject to pogroms.

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>>28171817

>> No.28171889

>>28171709
If you havent noticed, Space Yiffs and SoBs dont exactly get along well, what with Yiffs massacring them all the time and all.

>> No.28171905

>>28171881
You are the equivalent of that guy who plays SoB, purposely plays badly, then mumbles something about rape and gets all sweaty.

>> No.28171912

>>28171838
And harem quests.

And hey, /tg/ can get pretty creative when it comes to 40K. Just look at how creatively they misinterpret the lore.

>> No.28171926

>>28171864
>Space Marines do the same thing, and look how many of them continue to fall.
What?
You're saying "because there are heretics, that implies Space Marines have gay sex all the time".
>Space Wolves aren't furries, they're vikings.
Wulfen.

>> No.28171944

>>28171889
So do the Grey Knights, yet they seem to get along fine with them.

>>28171905
Hey, didn't I tell that story on /tg/ about the Wood Elf guy?

>> No.28171965

>>28171944
>yet they seem to get along fine with them.
Except they don't. They get mindwiped whenever they don't get made into hats.

>> No.28171967

>>28171944
Reference I was making, yes.

>> No.28171978

>>28171944
never read it
do you have a screencap ?

>> No.28171979

>>28171926
Wulfen are either failed initiates, or they're the guys that have been in the Eye of Terror for the past ten thousand years. Either way, they're not exactly what Space Wolves aspire to be.

>You're saying "because there are heretics, that implies Space Marines have gay sex all the time".

Dark Angels.

>> No.28171993 [DELETED] 

>>28171979
>Dark Angels.
X----DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
BECAUSE THEIR GAY GET IT
XDDDDDDDD

>> No.28171996

>>28171838
Where has it gone?

>> No.28172031

>>28171978
Unfortunately no, I don't. Basically this fat neckbeard got banned from a GW, but showed up anyway with his wood elf army. He deliberately played badly so his units would get killed, and every time they did he'd mumble something about how the enemy troops (Ogres in the original story) would rape them. A redshirt caught him and he hastily packed his shit up and ran.

He also refused to play against orcs 'cus orcs have no junk.

>> No.28172034

>>28171996
They left during the reign of Big Brother mod.

>> No.28172057

>>28172031
what the everloving fuck
holy shit

>> No.28172083

>>28172057
If you think that's bad already, his paintjobs were pretty much exactly what you'd expect.

>> No.28172102

>>28172031
There's a career in figuring out just how fucked in the head this bloke is!

>> No.28172106

>>28172034
To where? For I must find them and sing them the plea of /tg/, so they may return!

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>>28172083
I can't handle it

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They are an order of extreme zealous berserker nuns.

If their barracks aren't filled with enough lesbian energy to ignite all the promethium in the surrounding area, I'll eat a ripper.

>> No.28172135

>>28172106
Half are furfags, the rest are DeviantArt whores now.
Chink just faded away somewhere.

>> No.28172164

>>28169661
>>28169799
How about from a sisters butt?
Both the sisters get drunk in the end. Or so I hear.

>> No.28172182

>>28172118

If we could only harness lesbian energy, it'd be the ultimate clean (well occasionally slightly sticky) and renewable energy source.

>> No.28172199

>>28172135
Well, they were always the furfags. We just let it slide as long as they did our cultist chan, smelly and annoying.

Do they have a hangout on deviantart?

>> No.28172201
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>>28172182
but we need a way to keep the slaneshi motherfuckers from ruining it

>> No.28172206

>>28172135
I heard Chink was dead, though I heard others say he's okay.

>> No.28172211

>>28172118
It's people like this who've never actually met a nun.

>> No.28172217

>>28172211
Catholic nuns are not Battle Sisters.

>> No.28172236

>>28172217
They sure act like them.
What, do you think soldiers spend all their time having gay sex? Outside the Navy?

>> No.28172250

>>28172201
Easily. Just let them praise the emprah.

With their bodies.

Against each other.

AAALLL NIIIGHT LOOOONG.

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>>28168945
Just imagine this pic, but with a bionic eye.

>> No.28172303

>>28172236
>What, do you think soldiers spend all their time having gay sex?

yeah
>Outside the Navy?

oh in that case no
in the navyyyy

>> No.28172305

>>28172236
>What, do you think soldiers spend all their time having gay sex?
Well, that and shooting puppies.

>> No.28172312

>>28172236
Or masturbating, since they're not allowed to rape anymore.

>> No.28172317

>>28172206
He does Skullgirls stuff now.

>> No.28172324

>>28172312
>they're not allowed to rape anymore
Funny joke, I kill you last.

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>>28172303
YES YOU CAN SAIL THE SEVEN SEAS

>> No.28172330

>>28172303

Do the Marines count as outside the navy?

>> No.28172344

>>28172328
why did I save that picture ?

>> No.28172352

>>28172344
Because you're fabulous

>> No.28172356

>>28172259
I think the ''Yuri Goggles to full power picture'' would be a better base.

>> No.28172424

>>28172330
NO

>> No.28172429

Nah.
I mean, I dont think they have anything against it, but they probably see it as distraction.
Maybe when one sister feels horny she will ask advice from her superiors and they will praise the Emperor while holding hands until it fades away.

>> No.28172436

>>28172199
Well here's Cultist Original Artist:
http://mr-culexus.deviantart.com/gallery/
He occationally comes around to do a Quest based around his OC Boone.

>>28172201
But how else are we going to power our Vibrators?

>>28172250
LIKE THAT WILL STOP US!!!
The burning means it's the GOOD stuff!

>> No.28172453

>>28172429
Oh, they'll do something with their hands all right. Gotta work that emprah hysteria out slowly and sensually when there's nothing tokill.

>> No.28172494

>>28172453
Yeah, they'll get all limbered up and do some hardcore praying and training.

>> No.28172510

>>28172453
Probably not as wildly as you make it to be but I can imagine two sisters touching each other hoping the lewdness you go away, creating a bond between them. Then they regularly have sessions of softcore lesbian action with the excuse of strengthening their faith

>> No.28172539

>>28167910

Through a rifle scope.

>> No.28172800

>>28172539
>bedroom gunplay
Kinky.

>> No.28172851

>>28172800
>vibrators shaped like bolt shells

>> No.28172934

>>28172851
>regular vibrators

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Relevant...

Can't find the other one Poe did which is even more so...

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>>28167910
I always assumed that the Ecclesiarchy considered all sex that wasn't for the purpose of procreation to be excessive and heretical. Ergo, all homosexual love is deviant and heretical. GW probably just leaves it unstated so they can avoid having their name dragged through the rainbow coloured mud by the LGBT crowd. They tend to get mad when a fictional universe doesn't conform to their world view.

Love for the human form doesn't mean perverting it in unnecessary ways, especially when certain denizens of the warp thrive on such excess. Platonic love is a beautiful thing you filthy fucks. Stop projecting your deviancy on the pure maidens before the Inquisitor arrives so at least you can know salvation before you're put down.

>> No.28173376

>>28173322
>Platonic love
>holding hands
>snuggling
BAN THIS SICK FILTH

>> No.28173384

>>28173376
That joke was old years ago.

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Stupid sexy hair.

>> No.28173566

>>28173384

One day it'll stop being funny, and it will be a sad day indeed.

>> No.28173703

>>28173322
Read some of the novels.

Sororitas don't take celibacy vows as part of there training.

It's not all grim derp, even the eclesiarchy isn't that anal

>> No.28173718

>>28173703
Sounds like wishful thinking on the part of the author.

>> No.28173735

>>28173703
EXTREME SELF DENIAL!

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>>28173718
Maybe, maybe not. One of the stories where they bring it up briefly was between a retired sister superior and another side character.

>> No.28173781

>>28171720
In my 40k RPG, the crew of one ship is crewed by the very pale voidborn clans who originall crewed it, and some jungle world feral clans pressganged. So between the tyranic invasion, inter inquisitional politicking and buisness dealings my players also have to deal with an eternal race war waging in the lower decks

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>>28173718
Given most of the black library has instances where humans act human it might be something you just have to deal with friend.

If there were no emotions but dread and fear warhammer lore would be extremely dull...as dull as some of it's fans seem to enjoy true but you'll have to be boring somewhere else.

>> No.28173891

>>28173787
>extremely dull
That's part of their deal, right? Inflexibility, stereotyping, repetition, preoccupation with certain bits of fluff...

Where have I heard this list of symptoms before?

>> No.28173980

>>28173703
Read some SoB codexes. It's pretty obvious that they're not into anything that isn't praying or training.

>> No.28174004

>>28173787
> Sisters
> acting human

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>>28173980
It isn't one or the other.

Every single member of a faction is not the one note often deliberate propaganda in the side notes of codexes.

I hadn't been on /tg/ for some time but it's anal reputation seems fully warranted. The universe isn't black and white, Some codexs mention that inquisitors are incorruptible extensions of the emperors divine will too.

>> No.28174089

>>28174053
See >>28173891

>> No.28174172

>>28174089
You're right I know, I try sometimes anyway even if I'd get better results talking to my cat...or a wall.

I think because I enjoy how almost all the black library books have given us glimpses into the lives of these factions that we otherwise only know from in universe propaganda. And to see people fanatically defending the propaganda as fact and far superior seems wrong.

>> No.28174208

>>28174172
Are you saying that the Imperium is spreading falsehoods about the filthy Xenos?

Watch your words.

>> No.28174250

>>28174172
Yeah, at least my cat isn't convinced he has to disprove every one of my opinions to stop the world from ending.

>>28174208
That sounds exactly like what he's saying. The Imperium also purges or mindwipes people who find out about daemons, too, in an effort to keep it a secret.

Ignorance, lies, and rumor are all potential tools, and information is a valuable resource.

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>>28173787
Sex isn't a human thing, it's a bestial thing. All creatures that sexually reproduce engage in it. Being able to deny yourself sex and seek higher forms of romance IS a human thing, however. Lust is not the same as love. Even if one may have originated with the purpose of leading to the other, humans are sentient enough to indulge in one without treading on the grounds of the other.

The OP asked a question (albeit with the intention of starting a porn thread, but I digress) and I answered it in a way that seems the most consistent with the lore. Sorry if you found it to be 'boring.' But frankly, in a society full of drinking, recreational drug use and twerking, I find self-denial and the more classical definitions of romantic love to be an amusing concept.

And this is an answer coming from a man with so many fetishes that I had to train myself to detach my erections from my cognitive functions, less they seep into my campaigns.

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>>28174406
>equating abstinence with romance of any kind, let alone some sort of "higher form" of romance

>> No.28174455

>>28174406
>Sex isn't a human thing
wuttttt

>> No.28174474

>>28174406
>But frankly, in a society full of drinking, recreational drug use and twerking, I find self-denial and the more classical definitions of romantic love to be an amusing concept.

So I guess you're a bit rump-rustled that the Vapid Whores go for Jerks and Jocks not Nice Guys like you then

>> No.28174484

>>28174250
I get why they would hide information about demons. I mean people are fascinated by the unknown and if everyone knows warp demons can be summoned every planet would have a couple of enthusiasts per city.
But why do they hide things about genestealers remains a mystery to me.

>> No.28174505

>>28174004
actually they do in most books they are featured in, they act like retarded warriors , but human warriors none the less

>> No.28174532

>>28174172
The problem is that a lot of BL authors don't seem to be familiar with SoB fluff, so they're often quite differently to how they see in the codexes. To put it in perspective, an SoB who drinks and has casual sex is as much a departure from the codex fluff as an Ork who wants to give up on war and live a peaceful life farming. Can you see how that might not go down well with fans of that army?

>>28174053
Again, read the SoB codexes. Their thing is that they live very unified, tightly controller lives. They all get intensely indocdintated from early childhood, and they all stay in their chapels when they're not out fighting. There aren't really exceptions to them, not like we see in some BL novels.

>> No.28174535

>>28174453
Actually, the "platonic romaces" of the Victorian age were just this idealized love affair sans sexual intercourse. It was fairly common between women, and acceptable if not widespread among men.

Of course, there was a lot of hanky panky as well, but that's a differnt thing.

>> No.28174569

>>28167910

With barely contained lust?

>> No.28174572

>>28174172
You can't just handwave away all if the fluff in codexes as propaganda... If you want to just disregard the descriptions of how the Sisters live, then I can disregard how Eldar live on Craftworlds as propaganda.

>> No.28174586

>>28174532
>BUT MAH CODEXES!
Shut up and deal with it, nerd. Not everything has to conform to your narrow little view of the setting.

>>28174406
See, you seem to have fallen into the trap of thinking of sex as a bad thing. Or, as you say it, a "bestial thing". It's neither good nor bad. Abstaining from sex doesn't make the resulting relationship any "better" or any "worse", just like engaging in it doesn't make the relationship better or worse.

Sex, and the emotional attachments surrounding it, are a normal and healthy part of human relationships.

>> No.28174605

>>28174586
> Shut up nerd
Compelling argument lol.

>> No.28174615

>>28174532
>I don't like what some BL authors have to say about my army therefore it's false and I prefer the codex's which are written with deliberate bias and obvious propaganda...even though they're obviously meant to be supplement each other

Oh ok fair enough.

>> No.28174632

>>28174406
>Sex isn't a human thing, it's a bestial thing

Ah father I think you've gotten lost this isn't sunday school

>> No.28174634

>>28174532
This is understandable .A barhopping slut sister is out of the question.
But what about when on missions outside of the monastery. Surely a sister could have a partner she sees once per six months when on guard duty close to his position. It's not a thing everyone of them would do. It' a rare thing even for those that are predisposed to this but it's very possible and not lorebreaking.

>> No.28174636

>>28174586
Right, because your precious freelance writers who have obviously at best skimmed an SoB codex are more valid sources of information than the actual codexes.

Next you'll be telling me how great C.S Goto is.

>> No.28174639

here's a novel idea:

How about sisters are people, so in some orders they really are codex style. While other orders tend to do their own thing.

>> No.28174651

>>28174615
see
>>28174572

>> No.28174656

>>28174639
No it must be one or the other not both!

It must or all is lost, one must be right and one wrong. All is binary.

>> No.28174673

>>28174656
y'know sometimes I think the entirety of tg thinks that way.

>> No.28174684

Off topic, I know, but what stops one faction, like the Chaos for example, from warping a bunch of ships straight next to the planet the Emprah is on and blasting it to shit?

>> No.28174686

>>28174605
I also said for him to "deal with it".

And, you know. That Codices alone provide a very narrow view of what's possible in the setting. But then again, you'd have had to have read a whole second fucking sentence to get that bit, so I can understand how you would have failed to pick up on that.

>>28174636
See, what you're doing is trying to place a very limited source of information above any others that may contradict the narrow, heavily sterotyped and simplified image it presents. Basically, insisting that every member of the faction that exists in the setting can only ever behave in a specific manner, and that there can be no deviation.

Which is irrational at best.

>> No.28174693

>>28174639
Eh, but their thing is that they're very unified in culture. You don't get big divides like you do with Space Marine Chapters, all Sisters are living by the same dogma.

>> No.28174696

>>28174572
That makes no sense, you're still denying one is canon. Whether you like it or not BL books are canon and given the way the SOB codexs are written much of it is propaganda and bias and given what else we know of them from the novels we can infer that the perfect SOB is rare and that they are in fact human with human emotions.

I'm not sorry that bothers you, w40k isn't the black and white grim derpiness you want it to be.

>> No.28174736

>>28174696
soem people like wh40k as extreme black/white Grimdarkness.

to each their own i guess.

now how about we use those nifty order creation tables to make a noblebright sororitas order with a pinch of /u/ that can be toned down in fluff forming.

>> No.28174743

>>28174693
You mean like all Christians are totally the same because the pontifex said so?

>> No.28174754

>>28174693
But they do depend on the world they are situated in. They are usually well known to the locals and might occasionally observe their events and local celebrations.(I did not say participate in , but a major figure from a monastery on local events is probably a thing if not even part of their duty)

>> No.28174758

>>28174696
I feel like we have this argument all the time. That people keep insisting that theirs is the one correct opinion and anything that deviates from it is badwrong.

>> No.28174770

>>28174686
The codex says that SoB are all heavily brainwashed, and live lives of extreme self-denial and such. Meanwhile, BL books have Sisters who go around casually drinking and having secret affairs. They can't really both be right, and I'm inclined to believe what the codex has said as opposed to a freelance writer, thanks.

Tell me, would you have any problem with calm, pacifist Orks, or something like that? Using your logic, this is fine as the Ork codex must be overly narrow in its representation of them, right? It's probably propaganda too.

>> No.28174779

>>28174770
Or y'know the universe is a fuckhuge place and both can exist.

>> No.28174782

>>28174758
I'm saying both are canon and supplement eachother.

They're argument is we're right the codex is infallible law.

It's more We're both right!

Vs

No I'm right and you're wrong.

In that way yes it is exactly like /tg/ all the time.

>> No.28174787

>>28174696
So C.S Goto's works are totally canon?

BL is not as valid as you would like it to be.

>> No.28174795

>>28174770
> Using your logic, this is fine as the Ork codex must be overly narrow in its representation of them, right? It's probably propaganda too.

Do any of the other supplemental material BL included represent orks like that? no? then you have no point.

>> No.28174819

>>28174787
>I don't like his writing therefore It's not canon and nor is any other BL work

How can anyone argue against that it makes no sense. So Peanut brittle Sasquatch to you good luck in candyland.

>> No.28174830

>>28174743
That's hardly the same thing. Do all Christians go through heavy brainwashing from childhood and proceed to live their lives in isolation with other brainwashed people?

>>28174779
They wouldn't really be Sisters if you took away all the dogma and brainwashing.

>> No.28174843

>>28174830
Yes. We call that culture.

>> No.28174853

>>28174830
>That's hardly the same thing. Do all Christians go through heavy brainwashing from childhood and proceed to live their lives in isolation with other brainwashed people?

...some do and even they disagree on interpretation of the bible.

>> No.28174859

>>28174819
You're misunderstanding what I said. I said that some BL works have canon issues, not that it was all invalid.

>>28174795
You didn't address my point. If a BL author deviated from the Ork codex that much, would you just accept it? Because that's basically what's happened with the SoB in a lot of BL books.

>> No.28174874

>>28174853
And to add to this you seem to assume they're all raised on the same exact planet in the exact same circumstances.

An army of clones wouldn't behave in such a uniform fashion let alone those raised in differing sections of an immense galaxy.

>> No.28174878

>>28174830
>Do all Christians go through heavy brainwashing from childhood and proceed to live their lives in isolation with other brainwashed people?
Not ALL Christians, no. Because brainwashing and indoctrination don't produce thousands of identical minds. That's not how things work.

Again, you are reducing things to one stereotypical image which cannot logically represent the true extent of variation, ignoring or discounting out-of-hand any evidence that would contradict your views. All because "MAH CODEX SAID SO".

>> No.28174886

Wait....

Sisters who indulge their desires (sexual or whatver) exist. They sometimes feel so guilty, they exile themselves from the coven and turn into one of those naked zealot maniacs or get ti ride that torture walker thing.

>> No.28174900

>>28174886
Penitent Engine.

Now I want to make lesbian Penitent Engineheart characters.

Damnit.

>> No.28174903

>>28174874
Don't you know how SoB are made? They go through the Schola Progenium (tightly controlled brainwashing centre) then off to an Order, where they have the brainwashing constantly reinforced and have no contact with the outside (apart from the Canoness and some of the Superiors). They are all raised pretty much the same, planet doesn't matter.

>> No.28174904

>>28174859
And you're not addressing HIS point: that there hasn't been such a deviation for the depiction of Orks in canon.

It isn't a valid comparison, because one case exists in canon and the other does not. Your "acceptance" of it or not does not invalidate its existence.

>> No.28174910

>>28174859
I would make the perfectly reasonable assumption that both are not indicative of the whole.

Especially as both have never claimed to.

And the two don't even compare your saying orcs would en-masse change dramatically

VS

SOB may feel human emotions and therefore feel and act on love.

I feel like I'm arguing with a religious person here and that the real issue is a SOB might have sex. And that one of his army of sobs having thoughts for another of the same gender would break his world.

especially if you're the same person who made that "Sex isn't a human thing, it's a bestial thing" rant

>> No.28174916

>>28174878
Even the given representations in books that are showing stereotypical behavior still show individuals acting differently within the same unit.

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>mfw /tg/ keeps calling Goto while no one gives a shit about Soul Drinkers

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>>28174795
Wait...

So the Codices, what many consider to be the highest canon, is nothing but propaganda, lies, out-right lies, blatant lies and stilted truths.

BUT

Black Library, what many consider to sit low on the canon hierarchy and what GAMES WORKSHOP themselves has said you can pick and choose at will, is nothing but the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth and is the Word of God.

Double-you tea eff mate?

>> No.28174935

>>28174878
The Sisters aren't the same as Christians. This isn't brainwashing lite, they all go through the same intense process and then go to live with others of this mindset. So they're all brainwashed as fuck and in a highly-conformist enviroment.

Look, I just don't think it's great that a freelance author can come in and disregard the way in which my army is described for their book, and then be piled on for daring to point out what my codex says when people go around saying that the BL books are accurate.

>> No.28174951

>>28174904
You're still not understanding.

No, it hadn't happened as of yet, but if it did, then would you just approve of it?

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>>28174928
You're not reading me at all are you.

Here nice and easy

Both are right and supplement each other the universe isn't binary ours or warhammers

>> No.28174976

>>28174920
Didn't even read that.
What's the deal?

>> No.28174988

>>28174951
The comparison makes no sense. And aI answered you

****I would make the perfectly reasonable assumption that both are not indicative of the whole.

Especially as both have never claimed to.*****

Do I need to break out the colored blocks? or can your mind literally not comprehend a non-binary answer to the situation?

>> No.28174991

>>28174963
Sorry, I clicked on the wrong link.

I meant to click
>>28174696

I got so caught up trying to make sense of this largely circular argument that I forgot to check before I posted.

>> No.28174992

>>>/d/5111703
>>>/d/5111703
>>>/d/5111703
>>>/d/5111703
>>>/d/5111703
GTFO, permafappers. You already have a thread where it belongs.

>> No.28174994

>>28174963
They can't really both be right. Either the Sisters are fanatical fucks who disregard all self-indulgence and see pens that hurt your hand as reasonable, or they see absolutely no problem with having a drink and a discreet affair or two. The two portrayals really aren't that compatible, and in light of that it's better to go with the studio material than the work of one freelance author.

>> No.28174996

>>28174951
I wouldn't give a shit, partly because my giving a shit does not matter, and partly because I can't be bothered. I am not in charge of how fluff changes or mutates over the years, nor will I insist that my interpretation of the setting is somehow superior to that of licensed source material.

>> No.28175011

>>28174994
There is more than one Sister of Battle.

This is not a situation that requires a zero-sum mentality.

>> No.28175014

>>28174988
> that comparison makes no sense
Yes it does. Freelance author comes in, and massively changes the characterisation of an army from how they've been depicted in the codex. Is this something that we have to accept?

I find it interesting that nobody is willing to answer my question of if they'd approve of a BL book about pacifistic Orks. So sexual Sisters are a-ok, but another army having its character changed isn't?

>> No.28175016

>>28174994
You can't wrap your head around it can you. It's either black or white to you. I can't argue with that, it makes no sense.

All must be 1 or all must be 0

I'm not sure if that's a mental disability but it certainly sounds like it. Even if not it's nonsensical and can't really be argued with it's a wrong way of looking at the world ours or warhammers.

>> No.28175017

>>28174903
It's your average military academy with whiff of grimdark.
We even see Cain work in one. It's not actually very oppressive or mind-altering.
Sure, political indoctrination, lectures of faith and weapon training are a given.
But it's no worse than your average Napola. And they even admit girls.

>> No.28175032

>>28175011
And every Sister goes through the same life-long brainwashing and lives in the same isolation.

>>28174996
Okay, but if you were a big fan of the Orks, do you think that you would enjoy it?

>> No.28175036

>>28175014
"freelance" auther hasn't come in and made massive changes to anything to start with. Especially not the sobs so your comparison makes no sense.

You're acting like sobs having emotions is a drastic change from your more canon then other canon codex.

You make no sense.

>> No.28175048

>>28175014
Your question was answered here >>28174996

Pacifist orks would be new and different. But whatever. One planet where the Orks are just constantly chill doesn't directly contradict their Codex. Just like having one Sister portrayed has having time for relationships and recreation does not mean that's now all Sisters do. There is no contradiction.

Some Sisters have the time and desire to have a life outside of PURGE AND PRAY THE HERETICS AWAY, and some don't.

How is it that you can't fucking comprehend this?

>> No.28175050

>>28175016
You don't seem to perceive what I'm saying. Codex: all fanatical brainwashed zealots who never leave their chapel. BL: happily drink and have casual sex. Do you see the problem here?

>>28175017
The Cain books get the Schola wrong too. It has male and female students mixing, as well as Novices using power armour and a Sister teaching at the Schola.

>> No.28175058

Ahem.
Did you people forget that everyone has his own canon in 40k?
So your sob can't have sex and that guy's can.
And you're both right.
And you're both not.

>> No.28175060

>>28175032
The same isolation of scrumball matches with the commissarial cadets and living in convents with sisters from different backgrounds.

Not to mention serving under different leaders, in different parts of the galaxy and naturally in positions with or without frontline duty.

How could this not produce absolutely identical soldiers?

>> No.28175066

>>28175050
>published material is wrong
>my headcanon is absolute

>> No.28175076

>>28175036
Have you been reading the same thread as me? Look at the codex fluff that's been talked about, lives if extreme self-denial. This does not fit with casual self-indulgence.

And I never said that they are emotionless.

>>28175048
You don't seem to grasp that a Sister drinking and fucking was new at some point.

And, some have time and desire for a life outside of purging? Wow. You really don't understand the SoB. All brainwashed, all do nothing but pray and train.

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>>28175050
>The Cain books get the Schola wrong too

Every single one in the galaxy. Again with the binary. It doesn't work that way, I must be getting trolled or I'm trying to argue with someone who perceives reality in a different way to me.

Either way it seems like a wasted effort.

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>>28175080
I hear ya.

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>>28173322
>the japanese guy in the back
Goddamnit. How. His face is like four lines but it's so perfect.

Also, you're wrong, definitely-not-a-human.
If demons thrive on fucking, out-fuck them, not minimize it.

Sounds like space-elf mischief to me.

>> No.28175114

>>28175060
But the Schola isn't like that... The studio canon has them separating out the genders.

>>28175066
It's not headcanon, it's studio material.

You know, I think I understand why you guys are thinking the way you are. You only ever knew the BL version, that's what you read first and never got to see the more obscure codex fluff on the SoB.

>> No.28175117

>>28175100
Art isn't making drawing of things look real. Art is tricking the brain into seeing a few lines as what you want it to see.

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>>28169616
Hey! It's Wolf + Sister artist.

Coolaid.

>> No.28175124

>>28175080
>>28175098
I don't know what's happening anymore.

Did I go mad at some point and just not notice it? Is this a hallucination? Am I actually having a seizure on the ground in front of a bus stop or something?

Is this Hell?

>> No.28175127

>>28175098
> a person disagrees with me
> I know I'll call him autistic lol
Stay classy, anon.

>>28175080
Why wouldn't they all be basically the same? They're producing Commissars, Stormtroopers and Sisters, most elite and indoctrinated human soldier there are.

And why would they differ on really basic stuff like gender separation anyway?

>> No.28175128

It's pretty retarded of the Imperium to send reproductive units and good equipment out to get captured and die. Women are a resource in war and should be treated as such.

>> No.28175134

Side question: why should Imperium give a fuck about someone's sexual preferences until he has nothing to do with xenos/mutants/heretics?
The Church of Emprah is not like irl religion at all.

>> No.28175138

>>28175124
Yes. My personal hell.
Get out.

>> No.28175145

>>28175138
Remember anon, you're here forever.

>> No.28175152

>>28175134
It probably varies by world.

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>>28175124

...and then everything went Black.

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>>28175128
>retarded
>doesn't want holy gothic pyromanic ladies just because

You sound like fun. A fellow mature gamer who prefers mature games. Forget childish cuhrazy.

>> No.28175205

Two questions.
Is this a same kind of person who argue about eldar not having sex at all?
Is a wish of in-game females not having sex at all a some kind of complex?

>> No.28175209

>>28175127
Because they are a million different organizations in a million different places across the entire fucking galaxy.
And unlike Space Marines, their teachers and cadets are not genetically altered to be more alike.

Hell, look at two schools twenty miles from each other. They can be extremely different.
Even with tight state control over them.

You are taking the wording at face value and hang your arguments on throwaway lines of sweeping statements that may well reflect mere ideals or even propaganda images.

Look at what things you can say about any kind of historic military academies, boarding schools etc. and they still produced people with very diverse ideas and none of them becomes the ideals set by their school.
They remain people.

>> No.28175221

>>28175128
That holds true in small-scale logic.
With trillions of people in your system, it doesn't matter squat.

>> No.28175231

>>28175205
I'm not wishing that 40K women don't have sex, all I did was point out what the SoB codexes actually say. But obviously that's frowned upon by some.

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>>28175231
Don't play coy you were saying the codex was gospel truth over any other form of canon.

>> No.28175261

>>28174976
Sorry, had people at the door

Basically we start taking a marine chapter that puts the retarded marine trope to an extreme: they're supposed to be specialized in naval assaults, but they have very few terminator armor suits and they're assault squads are standard, very few heavy weapons if any, and the rest is bolter spam. For reasons they end up losing their assault squads too, so they just spam tac marines every battle, losing a company or two every book.

Then, we have some great chars. We can start with a space marine captain that's tired of war, and acts tough because MUH MORALE

But obviously the best one is the llibrarian main char. We're talking about a librarian that gets converted (along with the rest of the chapter) by a random old man they found on a ship. Then they get mutated and they think that's the Emperor blessing them after they fought with their chapter brothers in a civil war.

Then they start recruiting to cover some of their losses, but decide that's hypno conditioning is OH SO EVULZ obviously, and of course no one thinks that taking captives that hate and kill everything and making them space marines may turn against them in a very short time if not kept in check.

Que another civil war

>> No.28175271

>>28175209
I think this is a problem some have with the SoB, and maybe 40K in general. You don't seem to quite comprehend how extreme the lifestyle is. They're not like modern military academies, they produce Commissars and Sisters, two very extreme, very brainwashed types of people. And do you think that the Imperium would like such wide deviation in the institution that produces some if its best soldiers, or rigid uniformity?

Also, I like how people keep trying to disregard the codex fluff as propaganda just because it is inconvinient for the works of their favourite Black Library author.

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>>28175271
>Also, I like how people keep trying to disregard the codex fluff as propaganda just because it is written deliberately that way.

>Meanwhile I disregard BL fluff because the codex is the only form of canon I recognize

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>>28175128
The one resource the Imperium has more then enough of.
That single over-abundant resource that sometimes petty wars are fought for the sole purpose of expending said resource.

Is humans.

>> No.28175288

>>28175247
Over some freelance author's spin on it, yes.

It's odd how it's apparently okay when the Sisters have their codex fluff ignored by BL, but when another race gets changed, people rage. Goto is to this day mocked for his portrayal of the Eldar.

>> No.28175297

This is the sort of question a compulsively masturbating permavirgin would ask. Stop shitting up the worksafe boards with your obsession.

>> No.28175301

>>28175288
>Goto is to this day mocked for his portrayal of the Eldar by me. Not sure why that makes all other BL irrelevant even if true but it does...because reasons.

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>>28175284
See
>>28174928
>So the Codices, what many consider to be the highest canon, is nothing but propaganda, lies, out-right lies, blatant lies and stilted truths.
>BUT
>Black Library, what many consider to sit low on the canon hierarchy and what GAMES WORKSHOP themselves has said you can pick and choose at will, is nothing but the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth and is the Word of God.
>Double-you tea eff mate?

>> No.28175316

>>28175284
You're deliberately twisting my words. I've only ever been saying that I disregard BL works that go against the studio material. Meanwhile you have been putting the work of a freelance writer above an army's own codex.

And if how the SoB live is propaganda, then Tyranids being a hivemind must also be propaganda. They're actually very individualistic.

>> No.28175321

>>28175271
>implying the imperiums commissars and sister orders are the same

Space Marines are considered the one of the greatest, holiest things the Imperium can field. And yet:
>ultramarines
>space wolves
>blood angels
>white scars
>iron hands

You have no idea what you're talking about. The Imperium is so buttfuck hueg, so fucktardedly massive, that yes there is crazy deviations in many factors, including doctrine, uniform, organisation, naming conventions, attitude, tactics and general mindset.

Have a taste: http://galaxy40k.com/

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>>28175305
see
>>28174963
>Here nice and easy

Both are right and supplement each other the universe isn't binary ours or warhammers

>> No.28175330

>>28175321
I can see why you'd name those chapters, but why the ultramarines?

>> No.28175334

>>28175316
Both are written from the point of view of the imperium.

No one has ever claimed the tyranid are individuals, you're making stuff up.

>> No.28175337

>>28175301
> by me
You new? Read his 1d4chan article. /tg/ at large mocks him for his wild deviance from canon.

> not sure why this makes all of BL irrelevant
Did you even read my post? Not what I said at all. Here, I'll say it again. I find it interesting how a writer deviating from studio fluff on the SoB is defended, but a writer deviating from Eldar studio fluff invokes widespread mockery.

>> No.28175346

>>28175330
Keep up, son. It's comparison. See how each chapter is so different to the next?

>> No.28175347

>>28175337
/tg/ at large also ignores a lot of other ridiculous stuff and comes up with retarded marine chapters ideas

At this point Goto is a buzzword

>> No.28175353

>>28175334
So if a BL writer suddenly claimed that the Tyranids were individualistic, it would be okay?

>>28175321
> comparing Marines to the Sisters
You do not understand the SoB. A major thing of theirs is their unified culture. They all live the same way, they all believe the same things.

>> No.28175354

>>28175346
I thought you were listing deviations from the "greatest, holiest things the Imperium can field" image

>> No.28175356

>>28175337
>but a writer deviating from Eldar studio fluff invokes widespread mockery.

From whom, a wiki page, are you serious?

>> No.28175370

>>28175353
>apples are oranges

No you can't compare such wildly different situations and call it a logical comparison.

But see
>>28174988
>****I would make the perfectly reasonable assumption that both are not indicative of the whole.

Especially as both have never claimed to.*****

>> No.28175385

>>28175301
Actually, Goto's just a shitty writer that relies on poorly explained plot devices, contrived scenarios, and warped depictions of previously established characters. THAT is why people mock him.

>>28175288
The Cain depiction doesn't ignore Sisters Codex fluff. It's pointed out that finding a Sister with some semblance of a normal social life is rare, but not impossible. As has been said before, it's not an either-or situation.

Also, you seem to forget that the novel in question is a licensed work. As in, there was oversight and approval of the final product.

>> No.28175391

>>28175356
> denying Goto's reputation
Yeah, you must be new.

>>28175354
Space Marines are wildly varied in culture and mindset. Not really the same thing.

>> No.28175397

>>28175354
You're being slow on purpose aren't you. You've been called out and instead of stopping the posting thing, you're just going to skewer the argument in another direction.

You started with
>imperium is all the same, especially high areas such as sisters and commissars
Got countered with
>no, very different, even in marines, who, interesting, are higher than sisters
>here are some examples to show the crazy deviations


Don't reply.

>> No.28175398

>>28175353
>You do not understand the SoB. A major thing of theirs is their unified culture. They all live the same way, they all believe the same things.

>hasn't read the dark heresy supplemental on SOB

Or are they not canon either?

It's so hard to tell what is or isn't in your black and white world

>> No.28175413

>>28175391
>Yeah, you must be new.

And you have to have some mental illness that stops you from see'ing more then "yes and no"

Or you're trolling at this point there's no other explanation.

>> No.28175417

>>28175397
But I'm not that guy anon, what the fuck?

>> No.28175427

>>28175353
Except even in old fluff, major Orders Militant are depicted as being every bit as divergent as the Saints who founded them. Cue the Argent Shroud being known as the most altruistic of the Orders Militant.

They share their Faith, but differ in how they express it. They were never as uniform as you're trying to make them.

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>>28175417
WHAT DID I SAY.

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>>28172201
Brothersm we have been gifted many shiny new bolts!

>> No.28175488

Shall we see what the head of Black Library says about BL books and canon?

> "In further conversation, George emphasized that Black Library’s main objective was to 'tell good stories'. He agreed that some points in certain novels could, perhaps, have benefited from the editor’s red pen (a certain multilaser was mentioned) but was at pains to explain that, just as each hobbyist tends to interpret the background and facts of the Warhammer and 40K worlds differently, so does each author. In essence, each author represents an “alternative” version of the respective worlds. After pressing him further, he explained that only the Studio material (rulebooks, codexes, army books and suchlike) was canonical in that it HAD to be adhered-to in the plots and background of the novels. There was no obligation on authors to adhere to facts and events as spelled out in Black Library work."

>>28175398
No. They have Sisters shooting laser out of their eyes, lol.

>>28175397
I never actually said that the Imperium was all the same. And I only ever referred to Commissar and Sisters because of their intense brainwashing and cultures. A defining trait of the Marines is that they vary massively, varying in beliefs, histories and upbrining.

>>28175385
>Actually, Goto's just a shitty writer that relies on poorly explained plot devices, contrived scenarios, and warped depictions of previously established characters. THAT is why people mock him.
Not only. Lots of people take issue with his Slaaneshi seer councils or his tank-beating children.

>>28175385
>The Cain depiction doesn't ignore Sisters Codex fluff. It's pointed out that finding a Sister with some semblance of a normal social life is rare, but not impossible. As has been said before, it's not an either-or situation.
But that is a contradiction. The Sisters don't live normal social lives.

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>>28175485
Did someone mention gifts?

>> No.28175514

>>28175427
Different in tactics and mannerisms, yes, but all living the same lifestyle, same upbrining and same beliefs. They're nowhere near as divergent as Marine Chapters.

Interesting aside, Argent Shroud may not be as altrusitic as you think. Armageddon fluff had them purging IG, and having a reputation for purging Imperialm organisations they come across.

They're heroic, but not nice.

>>28175413
All I'm doing is pointing towards the codex fluff. But some people don't like this, so it makes me a troll.

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>>28175497
Presents lie around every corner.

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>>28175488
>No. They have Sisters shooting laser out of their eyes, lol.

You're actually quite mad aren't you?

I'm talking mainly in the Arguing with invisible lizard people on a buss fashion as well being angry.

>> No.28175535

>>28175488
So let's dissect what your quoted passage actually means.
>"Studio material was canonical in that it HAD to be adhered-to in the plots and background of the novels"
>Studio material HAS to be adhered to

By your logic and that of Black Library, the Cain depiction of Sisters is compatible with Studio material.

>> No.28175537

>>28175488
>But that is a contradiction. The Sisters don't live normal social lives.

Again, it's 40k fluff. All things are true, even the contradictory bits. You're looking at a big universe with a lot of time behind it. So somewhere, there is a order of sisters who are so far removed from the battle lines that they lead relatively normal (albiet monastic) lives.

>> No.28175540

>>28175514
>All I'm doing is pointing towards the codex fluff. But some people don't like this, so it makes me a troll.

>Don't play coy you were saying the codex was gospel truth over any other form of canon.

Do you have memory issues on top of whatever else is going on?

I say this because you've acted like this is a new thread and we've all forgotten the previous one twice now.

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>>28168473

>> No.28175546

>>28175514
They refused to fight against uncorrupted PDF AND the Marines trying to kill them. They then retired from the field and demanded that the Inquisition purge said Marines for their actions.

Go read your source material again.

>> No.28175553

>>28175537
Likewise, somewhere, there is an order of sisters who are right smack dab in the middle of a warzone, who still manage to live, and love, and have families, in addition to their devotion to the emperor

Given the choice between their mortal loves and the emperor... They will never make a mistake so grave as to put anyone ahead of the emperor.

>> No.28175556

>>28175514
>argent shroud may not be as altrusitic as you think
>They're heroic, but not nice.
Irrelevant. Different authors and such.

Some Space Wolf stuff makes them seem boisterous and lively, keen for a fight.

Other, both official, make them seem dark, borderline-corrupted wolf-men.

You're narrowing things because it's not to your taste. Also, the Order of the Argent Shroud is a Prioris convent. They're fucking massive, with convents scattered all over the galaxy.

Some are going to be cold. Some are going to be nice.

>> No.28175569

>>28175530
You think that Sisters shooting lasers from their eyes lines up well with the codex fluff?

>>28175535
Nice cherrypicking.

Let's look at the parts that you conviniently ignored:

> George emphasized that Black Library’s main objective was to 'tell good stories'. He agreed that some points in certain novels could, perhaps, have benefited from the editor’s red pen
> just as each hobbyist tends to interpret the background and facts of the Warhammer and 40K worlds differently, so does each author
> In essence, each author represents an “alternative” version of the respective worlds.

As for the parts you quoted, they are demonstrably inaccurate. It's obvious that they don't always adhere. Cain deivates from the SoB codex in that it has gender-mixing scholas, Goto deviates in that he has D-Cannons firing bullets.

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>>28175524
Touche sir...Touche

>> No.28175595

>>28175569
Okay, new player enters this argument: you want to only use codex-included fluff?

The Tau Air Caste. What is their G tolerance?

Old Codex: they have little tolerance for any kind of Gravity, living in space environments.

New Codex: They have been bred for High Gravity tolerance.

So which is it?

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>>28175569
>You think that Sisters shooting lasers from their eyes lines up well with the codex fluff?

I can only assume you mean augmetic eyes...they're a thing, are you high?

They've been a thing since almost as far back as space marines depicted banging alien broads.

ITT arguing with crazy people

>> No.28175613

>>28175540
Do you have memory issues? Remember I replied to that point already? Here, a helpful link. Just click and you'll see what I'm talking about.
>>28175288
I'm only saying that codexes trump BL books that deviate. By your logic, we must accept all of Goto's deviances.

>>28175546
The militia, they weren't PDF, were on their side? I don't think that you really know what I'm referencing.

>>28175556
What? I never said that it was a contradiction, just that people place a lot of stock in that short description them. while other material shows that people may be getting the wrong impression.

> You're narrowing things because it's not to your taste. Also, the Order of the Argent Shroud is a Prioris convent. They're fucking massive, with convents scattered all over the galaxy.
All of whom have the same brainwashing and sheltered lives.

>> No.28175639

>>28175613
>What? I never said that it was a contradiction
Neither did I imply that. You're slow.
>All of whom have the same brainwashing and sheltered lives.
Very slow.

I'm going to go now, several people have been calling you out for your silliness but you just keep on going.

The topic's getting stale now.

>> No.28175646

>>28175595
The new codex, because it retcons the old one.

I know you think that this is some clever trick, like I've said new codex so you'll pounce and point out how even studio material contradcits itself, but it's really not. Studio material sometimes retcons itself, this is not the same as a freelance writer coming in and putting their on spin on it.

>>28175604
>I can only assume you mean augmetic eyes...they're a thing, are you high?
It's not augmetic eyes, this has them doing it with space magic.

>> No.28175653

>>28175569
It's not "cherrypicking", it's a literal reading of his words. When asked to explain the "alternative versions" comment, he explained that Black Library authors are required to adhere to Studio material but not to other Black Library authors.

Therefore, by the logic of the statements presented, CainSisters are considered by Black Library to be consistent with the Sisters Codices.

I like how you introduce a piece of "evidence" and try to backpedal once someone explains to you why it actually contradicts your point.

>> No.28175664

>>28169450
Not true

The imperial guard hate ratlings

Always steeling and illegal gambling so on and so forth

>> No.28175669

>>28175639
I don't really understand the point you're making.

>> No.28175672

>>28169336
Essentially, any resources spent being racist, sexist and/or homophobic are resources not spent waging a desperate war for survival.

>> No.28175684

>>28175653
>It's not "cherrypicking", it's a literal reading of his words. When asked to explain the "alternative versions" comment, he explained that Black Library authors are required to adhere to Studio material but not to other Black Library authors.
>Therefore, by the logic of the statements presented, CainSisters are considered by Black Library to be consistent with the Sisters Codices.
Ah, and you conviniently ignore my examples demonstarting that BL authors do not in fact always adhere to the codex material. Or do D-Cannons fire bullets, now?

Sorry, the average BL writer's aim is to tell a good story. Sometimes, codex fluff gets missed or changed in light of this.

>> No.28175686

>>28175664
>ratlings
>humans

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>>28175613
You've gone full circle twice and you're still not making sence

Someone who thinks in such binary terms can't be argued with logically.

So to answer the thread nobody cares what you're doing with your genitals in the rare moments you're not purging in the emprahs name as long as you're not scissoring a slaaneshi cultist while injecting slaught into your eyes you're probably safe.

>> No.28175717

>>28175664
They also have no problem using them as snipers and cooks and many veterans are quite grateful for their ability to "procure" extra equipment.

>> No.28175722

>>28175711
wrong image but we all know the line.

And you crossed it you went full on crazy.

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>>28175497
>>28175524
well this is awkward

>> No.28175727

>>28175684
That's a failure of editing, dude. Not every discrepancy is an attempt to rape your precious headcanon.

The fact remains, thus far unchallenged, that the Cain novels and their depiction of Sisters are considered by Black Library to be consistent with established canon. It doesn't replace canon. It just adds to it.

I'm done arguing with you on the point, because you are clearly impervious to reason.

>> No.28175744

>thread about Lesbian Sob
>300 replies in a few hrs

never change tg

>> No.28175755

>>28175744
A third of those are MUH CANON

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>>28175744

>> No.28175759

>>28175744
its mostly shitstorm though

>> No.28175801

>>28175711
So, in summary, it's wrong to hold a codex above the work of a freelance author. The writer's book, which has been noted by Black Library as being the author's own interpretation and mostly intended to entertain, is just as valid as a codex.

I really agree with you, now. How dare anybody hold the fluff in their codex above a black library book. Such people are like robots.

> So to answer the thread nobody cares what you're doing with your genitals in the rare moments you're not purging in the emprahs name as long as you're not scissoring a slaaneshi cultist while injecting slaught into your eyes you're probably safe.
Well unless you, you know, are noted as living a life of extreme self-denial.

But if you want to draw or write about Sisters humping each other, go ahead. I only object to it being said to be line up with the canon, because it doesn't, really.

>>28175727
> The fact remains, thus far unchallenged, that the Cain novels and their depiction of Sisters are considered by Black Library to be consistent with established canon. It doesn't replace canon. It just adds to it.

>>28175727
>you are clearly impervious to reason.
No, you are impervious to anybody questioning the validity of your precious Black Library books.

> e fact remains, thus far unchallenged, that the Cain novels and their depiction of Sisters are considered by Black Library to be consistent with established canon.
It's like you don't even see my points about BL stuff obviously not always adhering to codex stuff. Respond to my point about the D-Cannon, please.

>your precious headcanon.
And this line just revealed you as a troll, it looks like. It's not headcanon if it's all coming from codexes.

>> No.28175815

>>28175801
whoops, messed that up a bit. Just ignore that second citation.

>> No.28175843

>>28175801
Point out where it says they can't have sex.

>> No.28175871

>>28175843
There's numerous lines about how they live very controlled lives. Here, look at this.
>>28171692
These are not people who are into sex. No, it doesn't say it outright, but does any codex touch upon the subject directly?

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>>28175801
>quote an interview that states that Black Library novels are required to adhere to canon
>use editing failures to justify disregarding Black Library as adhering to canon
>ignore when people call out your specific points as being factually wrong or logically inconsistent
>anyone who disagrees with me is a troll
Simply mind-boggling.

>> No.28175897

>>28175871
Point it out, anon.

>> No.28175900

>>28175871
My sisters have sex and you cant stop me.

The imperium is massive and you cant stop me.

Got back to Segmentum Solar, you dont belong here in the Ultima.

>> No.28175925

>>28175896
D-Cannon, address it now.

>>28175897
Okay, so you're ignoring my point about sex never being talked about outright. I cannot point you to a codex quote saying "Sisters don't fuck", because it doesn't and will probably never exist.

So, explain to me how "extreme self-denial" gels with "casual sex"? Go on.

>>28175900
> your Sisters
If it's homebrew, that's fine. Your money Have them using acts of lesbianism instead of Acts of Faith.

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>>28175925
>If it's homebrew, that's fine.
It's not.
You can not stop me. You cannot stop the future.

>> No.28175943

>>28175896
I know I'll probably be mauled for this, but I did misread your post slightly. Have a new answer.

>>use editing failures to justify disregarding Black Library as adhering to canon
So, you admit that it does not adhere to canon always? The stuff about celibicy is just one incident and a footnote in one book, an editor could have missed that. Likewise, the head of BL acknowledges that the editors are not perfect.

And again, by your logic, D-Cannons firing bullets are accpeted by BL as canon. Does this make it correct? No.

>> No.28175958

>>28175943
>And again, by your logic, D-Cannons firing bullets are accpeted by BL as canon

Case by case, man. Case by case. Stop assigning global rules to such a complex universe.

>> No.28175963

>>28175925
See >>28175727

It's a failure of editing. A single, relatively minor inconsistency by a pisspoor author that slipped past the editors. It's not the same as Sister Julien or Vail's conclusions about her behavior going unnoticed.

>> No.28175984

>>28175925
No. I'm not going to explain to you how self denial 'gels' with casual sex. Point out where they can't venerate the holy form.

>> No.28175986

>>28175958
It demonstrates that editors aren't perfect. BL books are not combed over to fit with codex fluff.

What doesn't help is that a lot of the deeper SoB fluff is in their older codexes, while the codex they had when that book was written was a short WD codex. Do you think that the editor was familiar with that material?

>>28175963
So it's okay when Goto doesn't line up with the fluff, but okay when Sandy Mitchell does it? You seem to be saying the Cain books cannot have inconsistencies.

>> No.28176008

>>28175986
Hence a case by case attitude and accepting the fact that such a large universe is going to have some canon you wont agree with.

Some eldar are cannibals.
Some occasionally work with humans.
Some think humans are a disease that must be complete wiped from the universe.

There was a guy in another thread who couldn't believe some eldar were batshit.

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>>28175727
>>28175896
>>28175963
>>28175958
>This one is canon because the editor totally agrees but this one isn't because the editor totally missed it.

Huh?

>> No.28176019

>>28176012
You have no idea what you're even talking about.

>> No.28176025

>>28176008
>such a large universe is going to have some canon you wont agree with.
It's more that the codexes don't agree with it.

I think it's partly because SoB fluff is quite obscure, so some fans and indeed perhaps authors do deviate from it a bit.

>> No.28176032

>>28176025
>It's more that the codexes don't agree with it.
But this is wrong.

>> No.28176055

>>28176019
No, he makes a good point. You're applying different standards to each writer. It's Goto and the editors being shit when Goto contradicts canon, but when Mitchell does it it must be because it was specifically looked upon and judged to be okay.

Another thing I found interesting is how you seemed to refer to Goto a "single" minor inconsistency, as if it was an isolated case. Do you think that this is the only case of BL contradicting codex canon?

>> No.28176064

>>28176012
>an entire character's depiction is as easy to miss as a single fucking error about some alien weapon
Do you even know anything about Sister Julien? Practically every time she's mentioned, Cain is going on about how surprisingly chill she is.

One is clearly a mistake, the other is a deliberate, recurring characterization.

>> No.28176068

>>28176032
> extreme self-denial
> alcohol and sex
Yeah, I can't see how this contradicts at all. You're right.

>> No.28176098

>>28176064
>the other is a deliberate, recurring characterization.
Which, of course, cannot at all be wrong! Yeah!

the Cain books also change how the Schola works, and that is outright laid out in a codex. Yet how Cain's schola runs is mentioned a few times in a couple of books.

>> No.28176103

>>28176055
>You're applying different standards to each writer
Yes. There are different standards of writers.

>>28176068
>variants in cultures, even the imperial creed is vastly different on worlds, the only thing it keeps is "empy is best"
Yet, basic human -things- are too outlandish for someone to have a bit of fun with when writing up an Order.

Codexes and staff state encouragement of unique, fun ideas.

The only reason GW never actually states anything sexual, is because it enters the 'obscene' territory, closing their demographics.

>> No.28176109

>>28176068
>an exception to the norm
>universal contradiction
Julien is unusual. This has been covered.

>> No.28176115

>>28176019
I am reading posts that something in one story isn't canon because the Editor missed it.

But.

In another story, something is canon because the Editor didn't miss it.

Not only are these both lacking a source, neither is explained WHY it is.

>> No.28176138

>>28176115
No, the point was that one was likely a mistake that wasn't caught by the editors, and the other was a deliberate characterization that the editors chose not to change.

Because they didn't consider it to contradict canon.

>> No.28176157

>>28176103
>Yes. There are different standards of writers.
Not the point I was making. You're saying that the canon deviances of one are mistakes, but the canon mistakes of others must have been allowed.

The most simple explanation is that BL's editing isn't perfect, and doesn't try to stick close to canon. The head of BL himself said that their aim was to tell a good story.

>>28176103
>>variants in cultures
The Sisters are one culture, not many.

>Yet, basic human -things- are too outlandish for someone to have a bit of fun with when writing up an Order.
I'm not at all opposed to this. If you want to homebrew some really out-there Sisters, go ahead. In fact, I specifically keep quiet about canon issues when an SoB Order creation thread is going so as not to stifle anyone's creativity. I myself even rolled up an Order that's pretty divergent in what it does. I only actually started discussing the nature of canon ITT when somebody said that BL novels proved that Sisters weren't celibite, as in a properly canon way, and I said that their codexes go against this.

>The only reason GW never actually states anything sexual, is because it enters the 'obscene' territory, closing their demographics.
But at the same time. they've said that the SoB don't do self-indulgence.

>> No.28176164

>>28176109
So would you be cool with a pacifist Ork? The Ork codex goes on about how they're all warlike as fuck. But an exception that totally goes against that is okay, right?

>> No.28176192

>>28176164
Sure. Why not. Big universe and all.

Dey don' chooz da orky life. Da orky life chooz dem.

>> No.28176193

>>28176157
>You're saying that the canon deviances of one are mistakes, but the canon mistakes of others must have been allowed
Yes, exactly. Some authors handle new/unique shit excellently. They can keep it. It adds to the universe, makes it not stagnate.

Shitty authors dont get that, shitty ideas fade/are ignored.

>The Sisters are one culture, not many.
No... no man. There's billions of them, all across the several segmentums. You cannot manage that perfectly. The administratum, the core governance of the imperium doesn't even work properly and with the same methods are the next sector.

>> No.28176242

>>28176164
As an ork player, sure. The codex talks about what ork armies are typically like, there's always going to be exceptions. It's a big universe after all.

My orks think Khorne is an 'onna-ary ork because I'm going to be allying with my brother's chaos space marine army often.

>> No.28176249

>>28176192
Well then, us arguing is quite pointless.

>>28176193
> Yes, exactly. Some authors handle new/unique shit excellently. They can keep it. It adds to the universe, makes it not stagnate.
This makes not sense. You just agreed with a criticism of your viewpoint.

You assume that Mitchell's stuff was all okay by virtue of being left in, while Goto's was a faliure of editing and research by virtue of being left in.

>No... no man. There's billions of them
Um, no. There really, really aren't. Their codexes have given specific numbers. Major Orders can be as big as 7000 (but are currently around 4000, IIRC) and Minor Orders can be anywhere from 1000 to 100 Sisters big, That is not billions.

>> No.28176263

>>28176242
I think it's a bit more than "typically" is every Ork is described as a violent bastard. And that, you know, it's in the very nature of Orks to be aggressive.

> My orks think Khorne is an 'onna-ary ork
But 'ees not Green!

>> No.28176269

>>28176164
>>28176192
>>28176249
>pacifist ork

+++DIGINKNOW+++

There have been various weather effects, chaos effects and general injury that has damaged some orks?

This has sometimes led to reduced Waaagh! generation, calmness and savant like natures with mekboy stuff.

>> No.28176293

>>28176269
But those are external effects that have forcibly altered those Orks. They're not normal Orks.

>> No.28176301

>>28176293
Irrelevant.

>> No.28176309

>>28176293
The post in question didn't state "natural" or "normal". All it says is that it's an exception.

>> No.28176310

>>28170426

OK first is prolly right in some cosmic "what makes the most sense" way, but your second point is way off.

When it comes to hot, never show something when you can tease it. Never say something when you can hint at it. Innuendo is the language of sexy. The temptation, the chase, the seduction, the submission-- if you skip straight to nekkid chix screwing each other than you've totally missed the point. These younger kids with their twerking and grinding are totally missing the point.

So let's talk about the sexiest possible Sisters of Fanservice.

>>28171692

OK, so the sisters don't take a formal vow of chastity, but they clearly don't have time for the rock n roll, OC episodes, ice cream socials, and sex. Sex is just one more form of recreation that is banned as a distraction from devotion to their duties and their Emperor.

But that doesn't mean they aren't horny. Oh, no. Just beneath the surface, a wild, raging, white-hot sexual lust is struggling to break free. They're hungry, RAVENOUS even, for the dick. They aren't experienced with men, and most are virgins, but deep down they all want it. And they're wild to have sex with one another.

But they CAN'T. Because they're NICE girls, devoted to the Emperor.

>> No.28176338

>>28176263
oy, but e's red cuz e's gotta kill fast.

>> No.28176349

>>28176310
>sex is bad
>let's have them be celibate because good girls who lust after my cock are my fetish
You are the worst sort of person.

>> No.28176353

>>28176301
No, relevant. Normally pacafist Orks aren't a thing, those are special circumstances.

>>28176309
Those Orks have been exposed to special circumstances, ergo they are not normal. An Ork would not be a pacafist just by itself.

>> No.28176374

>>28176310
Are you stupid?

>> No.28176377

>>28176249
>This makes not sense
... Prevents stagnation. I explained it. It's a simple concept that's widely practiced in many other fantasy/sci-fi stuff.

>Major Orders can be as big as 7000 (but are currently around 4000, IIRC) and Minor Orders can be anywhere from 1000 to 100 Sisters big, That is not billions.
You're getting confused with Orders Militant and Orders Minoris.
The Minoris are the smaller versions of the founding orders. The Militants are further broken down Minoris'.

These range into thousands of sisters. There is millions of Militant branches in the fuckhuge Imperium.

>> No.28176378

>>28176310

Some cover their carnal desires like they cover their rampant bosoms: they armor them with their faith. They get mad when they see men precisely because they desperately need it. When they see their sisters slipping in their devotion, they're furious because they want to do those things themselves. And a little corporal punishment gives them a freaky sexual release anyway. Hence the application of hazing, humiliation, and physical discipline.

But despite this, many sisters do start having feelings for one another. Some suppress them. Many simply flirt or find outlets (grapple training, massage, assisted yoga) that let them get a little release while ostensibly still remaining single-mindedly devoted to the Emperor. But a few pursue forbidden relationships.

It starts as a friendship or one of the flirty chaste crushes that are common in the Adepta Sororitas. Or sometimes it's between a superior and one of her subordinates-- it may even be that the superior is a cruel disciplinarian channeling her lust into torment. That leads to furtive sessions necking and groping in darkened hallways. Eventually, wild kinky sex is inevitable. Usually, it's mutual. Sometimes, it's a superior harassing an unwilling inferior-- but eventually even they succumb to their wild hedonistic desires.

Occasionally, a Sister will get in a relationship with a man. Sometimes a member of the ecclesiarchy, or an imperial guardsman, or even an inquisitor. Sometimes they're bewitched by a dashing Rogue Trader. Most sisters in this situation are hesitant and inexperienced, even if they pretend otherwise. Having already crossed their most sacred line, you can pretty much get such a sister to do anything in bed with wild abandon. No man can understand the depth of their moral quandry, so often a Sister will bring her fellow Adeptas into the relationship, someone who can share in her joy, and release, and secret shame.

It's very, very kinky.

See? Much better.

>> No.28176384

>>28176353
>No, relevant. Normally pacafist Orks aren't a thing, those are special circumstances.
Irrelevant. The argument was changes and exceptions. A change and exception was provided.

You need to stop at some point, I know this is a first, but sometimes you can be wrong.

>> No.28176396

>>28176353
That is precisely what I said. It's an exception, which is exactly what the poster I responded to asked about.

Fuck. Off.

>> No.28176435

>>28176377
>These range into thousands of sisters.
No. The latest codex says that 1000 is the max size.

>You're getting confused with Orders Militant and Orders Minoris.
I'm only talking about the Orders Militant. Also the non-militant Orders have their own names, such a Hospitaller or Dialogus.

>>28176377
>There is millions of Militant branches in the fuckhuge Imperium.
We don't know this. What we do know is that Minor Orders can be as big as 1000, but as small as 500. It's doubtful that this equates to millions of Sisters. Lots, yes, but there aren't millons of them. Remember, a Minor Order needs to split off froma Major Order. A Major Order can't just be cutting parts of itself off constantly, it needs to maintain reasonable strength.

>> No.28176450

>>28176378
>Occasionally, a Sister will get in a relationship with a man.
Ewww gross. Yuri for life.

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>>28176435
>We don't know this.
We do.

>> No.28176470

>>28176435
You're talking about Space Marines being capped at 1000.

Dumbass.

If you would like to dispute this claim, point out your proof.

>> No.28176487

>>28176396
And I never said that they weren't exceptions. When I made the pacifist Ork comparison, I meant having an Ork as a pacifist just because.

>Fuck. Off.
Are you geniunely mad? We can stop if it's causing you anguish. I never meant to hurt you, anon. <3

>> No.28176495

>>28176435
>I'm only talking about the Orders Militant.
>Also the non-militant Orders have their own names, such a Hospitaller or Dialogus
>this having anything to do with his point

>major orders need to maintain reasonable strength
>doesn't know both prioris and ophelia orders receive such vats volumes of pilgrims and births that they're near fucking imperial guard influx

Okay, it's obvious you're rusty on your sister shit. Just stop now.

>> No.28176504

>>28176487
>I never meant to hurt you, anon. <3

You shouldn't do that. It ruins all worth your arguments have.

>> No.28176508

>>28176461
wat

> Although the original six Orders are by far the most numerous and active of the Orders Militant, there are numerous other Orders Militant – the Orders Minoris – that have established their own traditions, doctrines, livery and titles inspired by one of the Sisterhood’s patron saints. These Orders Militant vary in size, from barely a hundred Battle Sisters to a thousand, but each is dedicated to its mission to serve the Ecclesiarchy’s will, and by extension, that of the Emperor.
No mention of there being millions of Minor Orders, just that there are numerous Minor Orders.

>>28176470
See the above, anon! 1000 is as big as a Minor Order gets.

>> No.28176536

>>28176495
>>doesn't know both prioris and ophelia orders receive such vats volumes of pilgrims and births that they're near fucking imperial guard influx
You're making things up... Sisters don't just make the babies of random pilgrims into Sisters, they get recruits from the Schola, who only recruit the orphans of Imperial servants. You clearly know very little about the Sisters if you think that they have an IG-like influx.

>>28176504
I'm sorry, I'll try to be more aggressive and serious like you are.

>> No.28176538

>>28176508
>No mention of there being millions of Minor Orders, just that there are numerous Minor Orders.
>stationed on millions upon millions of worlds.

There's billions of sisters in existence.

>>28176508
>See the above, anon! 1000 is as big as a Minor Order gets.
The codex says otherwise.

>> No.28176540

>>28176508
Citation needed.

Show me a clipping of the book, not your interpretation.

>> No.28176556

>>28176538
>There's billions of sisters in existence.
Care to cite that, anon?

>The codex says otherwise.
Care to cite that, anon? Codex says:
> These Orders Militant vary in size, from barely a hundred Battle Sisters to a thousand

>>28176540
That was a quote from their newest codex.

>> No.28176559

>>28176536
>they get recruits from the Schola, who only recruit the orphans of Imperial servants.
Precisely. Some worlds, like Terra, the Prioris convents home, have millions of Schola Progeniums.
The rate of death and influx of people ensures even orphans of imperial servants are in the trillions upon trillions.

>> No.28176583

>>28176504
If it's the same fuckwit that's been here the whole time, his arguments never had any "worth" to be ruined. His mind does not work based on logic like yours or mine.

It works on some alien principles that for all our scientific advances we have yet to understand.

>> No.28176589

>>28176556
>>There's billions of sisters in existence.
>Care to cite that, anon?

Ask your local GW employee. You can even go to their website and do the ask-email thing.

>>28176556
>>These Orders Militant vary in size, from barely a hundred Battle Sisters to a thousand
>>See the above, anon! 1000 is as big as a Minor Order gets.
>The codex says otherwise.

Again, difference in Militant and Minoris.

Billions.

>> No.28176594

>>28176559
And yet, the fluff has outright said that Major Orders are only as big as 7000. Says it right in the 6e rulebook, I've been told. On the SoB page.

Look, I can see where you're coming from. I too think it's odd that they're so small while the Imperium is so huge. But that's just what the fluff says. Maybe it'll be retconned next codex. But until then, it's canon.

>> No.28176613

>>28176589
>Ask your local GW employee. You can even go to their website and do the ask-email thing.
Uh, why would I do that when studio fluff has already given me the nu-
> Ask your local GW employee
Wait a minute, a fa/tg/uy would never say that sincerely! You almost got me!

> Again, difference in Militant and Minoris.
I'm pretty sure that this topic was only ever talking about Militants.

>> No.28176625

>>28176594
>Major Orders are only as big as 7000
Indeed. But don't forget the millions upon millions of Orders Minoris of both descent of Major and uniquely founded ones that sprung-up.

>>28176613
>I'm pretty sure that this topic was only ever talking about Militants.
It was talking about exceptions to your narrow, I-want-it-this-way view on the universe. Examples were given and now you're trying to pick out bits you like/don't like.

>> No.28176655

>>28176625
>Indeed. But don't forget the millions upon millions of Orders Minoris of both descent of Major and uniquely founded ones that sprung-up.
I don't think that there's millions of Minor Orders. Remember, these need to come from a Major Order, and Major Order need to maintain their strength to keep fighting, which they do a lot. 1000 Sister breaking off especially would be a rare event, so expect most Minor Orders to be on the smaller size.

>It was talking about exceptions to your narrow, I-want-it-this-way view on the universe. Examples were given and now you're trying to pick out bits you like/don't like.
Uh, what? So you've changed the topic and are accusing me of cherrypicking? Thread was only ever about militants.

>> No.28176699

>>28176655
>I don't think that there's millions of Minor Orders
I do. Because the universe isn't static due to
>Major Order need to maintain their strength to keep fighting
this. It's never a problem. Humans are worth less than ammunition. Known fact about the Imperium. They will never run out of someone to do a job. Not even shit like recruits for Grey Knights.

>Thread was only ever about militants.
Check the thread. It's about lesbians. Then variants in vanilla, relating to sisters of battle.

I have to go. But, many people have already proven you wrong, many. many times in this thread. So, I think it's a general -want- of the community to have fun and enjoy various cultures of Imperial shit, not just your idea.

>> No.28176721

>>28176556
Show me the quote. I can put quotations around anything, but you have yet to show me your source.

>> No.28176739

>>28174535
>Victorian romance
You need to read some actual Victorian romance novels, friend. They were goddamn raunchy.

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>>28174900
>Now I want to make lesbian Penitent Engineheart characters.
I have a picture for that.

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>>28176699
> I do. Because the universe isn't static due to
>Major Order need to maintain their strength to keep fighting
>this. It's never a problem. Humans are worth less than ammunition. Known fact about the Imperium. They will never run out of someone to do a job. Not even shit like recruits for Grey Knights.
Sisters aren't as expendable as IG. It takes years for a Sister to get through the Schola and to get into an Order. They don't just blindly throw them into the grinder, since with the Sisters, there's a very real risk that this could deplete them, as new recruits aren't so plentiful.

>Check the thread. It's about lesbians. Then variants in vanilla, relating to sisters of battle.
>>28167910
> How do the Sisters of Battle view lesbians?
> Sisters of Battle, as in militant Sisters.

>>28176721
It's from the AS digital codex. Here's a screencap.

>> No.28176773

>>28175118
>Wolf + Sister
Goddamn, I hate that comic. It does worse things to the SoBs than a Ciaphas Cain novel.

>> No.28176779

>>28176769
Ohoho, I now notice that there is an amusing tab up there!

>> No.28176806

>>28176779
derp, disregard this.

>>28176773
Yep.

> Sisters slaughtered en masse
> Canoness gets corrupted
> protagonist Sister is a mute, and relies on th Wolf character to advance her story

>> No.28176825

>>28176769
What I'm taking from that is that Orders Minoris have 500-1000 sisters.

Doesn't say anything about major Orders having 1000 members only.

You also realize that sci-fi writers have no sense of scale, don't you?

>> No.28176842

>>28176769
>Minecraft
Autism confirmed.

>> No.28176870

>>28176825
>Doesn't say anything about major Orders having 1000 members only.
I never said Major Orders have max 1000 members, I said that Minor Orders do. Major Orders are as big a 7000.

> You also realize that sci-fi writers have no sense of scale, don't you?
Yep, As I said, it doesn't make sense. It's just what the fluff says.

>>28176842
Eh, I haven't played it for quite some time. Bought it to play with some friends on another chan, but interest sort of died and so did... mine.

>> No.28176901

>>28172031

that's some serious problems

>> No.28177407

>>28176901
Not nearly as bad as "MUH CODEX" here...

>> No.28177477

>>28177407
Yeah, pointing out what your codex actually says sure is weird.

>> No.28177544

>>28177477
Ignore ND. He keeps trying to claim bullshit he makes up because it gets him hard like Khorne being a woman and Slanneshs ultimate goal being to turn the Emperor into a woman is 100% canon.

>> No.28177674

>>28177544
Khorne being a Woman under all that armor is perfect, and it's not Slaanesh trying to turn the Emperor female, it's my Slaaneshi Cult the Daughter's of Peace...
How outlandish does Lesbian Sororitas sound NOW?!

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>>28177674

>> No.28177946

>>28177832
Like this guy could be reasoned with?

>> No.28178027

>>28177946
Right, because holding a codex above a satirical BL book is really unreasonable.

>> No.28178039

>>28177674
>Daughter's of Peace
>of Peace belonging to Daughter
>Daughter is of Peace

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>>28177674
>it's my Slaaneshi Cult
Did you just use your own fanfiction as evidence?

>> No.28178103

>>28172303
In the Sororitaaaaaaas

>> No.28178152

>>28178063
Hey Anon was misquoting my shit, Slaanesh doesn't give a half fuck about what the Daughters do as long as they keep the Bliss flowing.

>> No.28178167

>>28178152
>Bliss
But that's not what Slanny is about in the slightest.

>> No.28178217

>>28178167
It is when said "Bliss" is the distilled contentment of Mortal Souls in liquid form, shits Daemonic Super-crack.

>> No.28178272

>>28178217
>contentment
Once again, this is literally the exact opposite of what Slaanesh is about. Contentment means you are happy where you are, which means you wont go to extreme lengths to seek out greater pleasures or try to perfect yourself.

I have never seen someone who names themselves after Slaanesh miss the point of She-Who-Thirsts so fucking hard.

>> No.28178316

>>28178272
By that logic, contentment would be the domain of Nurgle, wouldn't it? Which means he should change his name to NicePlaguebearer.

>> No.28178342

>>28178316
>Which means he should change his name to NicePlaguebearer.
I second this motion. All in favour?

>> No.28178353

>>28178342
Aye.

>> No.28178362

>>28178272
So your telling me a faction constantly seeking a new high would NOT become horribly addicted to the feeling of just being happy?

>> No.28178402

>>28178362
Did you not see the vote? Change your handle, please.

>> No.28178413

>>28178316
Contentment is closer to Nurgle, but Nurgle is as much about despair as he is about stagnation. Contentment is happiness in stagnation whereas Nurgle feeds off the despair stagnation and disease cause. One could easily argue that nurglites are the most content of all chaos followers, though. Well, them and Khornates.

That said, ND is definitely more in line with a festering pusbag than a crabclawed tittymonster. He even turns every thread he posts in into toxic wastelands of despair.
>>28178362
No. They wouldn't. Slaaneshi cults usually spring up from bored nobles who are sick of being just happy and want something new and exciting.

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>>28178362
>your
>not you're

YOUR fluff rape is bad and YOU'RE annoying.

Captcha: sisterfff fteaks

Wellp, time to go look for that Persona thread now.

>> No.28178493

>>28178413
There is plenty of overlap when it comes to the Domains of the Big Four, hence why they can barely get along.

And "Bored Nobles" as in, Nobles who have become WEARY of their lives since they are not diverting any pleasure from their day to day activities.

>> No.28178537

>>28178493
Change your handle. please. I don't want to have to send the Inquisition over to you, but I will.

>>28178467
Fucking got him good!

>> No.28178544

>>28178493
>pleasure
Quit moving the goalposts. Contentment and pleasure are two entirely different things.

>> No.28178595

>>28178544
con·tent·ment
/kənˈtentmənt/
noun
noun: contentment
1. a state of happiness and satisfaction.
"he found contentment in living a simple life in the country"
synonyms: contentedness, content, satisfaction, gratification, fulfillment, happiness, PLEASURE, cheerfulness;

>>28178537
My Handle is not a Democracy!

>> No.28178617

>>28178595
It is now. Change it.

>> No.28178652

>>28178595
Different words, different meanings. Similar is not the same as exactness.

Besides, Slaanesh fluff explicitly states that happiness and satisfaction are precisely what he is against.

Not to mention your Daughter is of Peace thing sounds more like a Nurglite cult. After all, despair and death by disease is rather peaceful.

>> No.28178660

>>28178617
Nope.

>> No.28178691

>>28178652
Source?

And even then, it won't stop anything...

>> No.28178709

>>28178652
>After all, despair and death by disease is rather peaceful.

This nigga has never spent evenings retching blood into a toilet.

>> No.28178742

>>28178709
Its peaceful once you're dead, nigga. Thats like, half the point of Big Papa Nurgwurgs, yo.

>> No.28178766

>>28178742
Yes, because shitting out most of your vital organs is SOOO a peaceful image...

>> No.28178813

>>28178766
Which is why you give in to Nurgle to make the pain stop. Not that it helps since he loves to heap on the painful gifts to all his followers, but still.

God damn, nigga, read the fucking lore.

>> No.28178839

>>28178595
>My Handle is not a Democracy!
Neither is /tg/. The appropriate people voted, and the decision was made. It's out of your hands now.

Change it.

>> No.28178893

>>28178839
We can just refer to him as Nasty Plaguebearer from now on and reinterpret everything he says through a nurglite lens.

I gotta admit, making a plaguebearer that thinks its a daemonette to give all threads cancer and make everyone hate Slaanesh at the same time was pretty devious of Nurgle.

>> No.28178899

>>28178766
I think it sounds quite peacful.

>> No.28178947

>>28178893
Ha! I like the cut of your jib.

Okay, NiceDaemonette will henceforth be known as NastyPlaguebearer. It is decided.

>> No.28178969

>>28178839
Bah, I can't just switch to the Nurglette personality, SHE'S TOO SHY!!!

>> No.28178994

>>28178969
>I can't just switch to the Nurglette personality
Good thing you're a dude, then.

>> No.28179017

>>28178994
Wait, isn't this the Roleplaying Games board?

((Seriously man, why are you doing all this out of character shit?))

>> No.28179062

>>28179017
We had roleplaying threads, NastyPlaguebearer. The Nazimod took care of that.

>> No.28179081

>>28179062
And you wonder why all that's left are Quest threads...

>> No.28179122

>>28179017
Its the board for discussing roleplaying games, not the board for pretending to be a girl.

And besides, in character you are just a confused plaguebearer, which is also a dude. It works on multiple levels.

>> No.28179156

>>28179122
No, my confused Plaguebearer character is also a girl... Did you even look at the sheets?

>> No.28179178

>>28179156
Nah, you're a dude. A disgusting, boil-covered pusbag of a dude.

>> No.28179186

>>28178969
Listen, NastyPlaguebearer, I know that this is a big adjustment for you. But /tg/ is a benevolent entity, it's for your own good.

>> No.28179219

>>28179186
oo-ok... If you say so...

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