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How elegant is your weapon of choice, /tg/?

>> No.27979140
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Does smashing count as elegant?

>> No.27979152
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I like this version better.

>> No.27979157
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Or made of wood, string, and shark teeth?

>> No.27979168
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Not particularly, but it gets the job done.

>> No.27979172


Is that a katana blade mounted on a western-style hilt?

>> No.27979183

It's a Swiss Saber, which has a similar-but-not-quite-identical blade shape to a katana.

>> No.27979195
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Such weapons are always welcome on /tg/.


Depends on who's doing it.

>> No.27979223
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>> No.27979231


Is it used the same way? What kind of armor was in regional use during that period?

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>> No.27979246
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One of my players presented me with that picture and asked if it would be okay (since they were paying points for a lightly enchanted version that wouldn't break, and such enchantments were canon in-setting) to use with their character. Of course I said yes, fuck yeah sharkswords.

>> No.27979271
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Can we get some bronze weapons going? I need a lot of bronze stuff for an upcoming pre-steel game, and my collection is sadly lacking.

In return, have some more pretty blades.

>> No.27979284 [SPOILER] 
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Do living creatures count as weapons?

>> No.27979299

That I'm not sure of. I'm familiar with what it looks like, but I'm no expert on how it was used.

>> No.27979300
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Elegant as fuck.

>> No.27979306 [SPOILER] 
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Only if psychological warfare does, too.

>> No.27979310
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Is this a katana?

>> No.27979357
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Very much to some.
Very little to the dead.

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>> No.27979398
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She gets the job done and doesn't let me down.

>> No.27979399
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There is some degree of elegance in simplicity.

>> No.27979411
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Not elegant at all.

>> No.27979412
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I believe those are early sabers, so they would be a sidearm in the era of full plate.

Now THIS is a katana with a western hilt.

>> No.27979418
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I like to think it's elegant in it's simplicity.

>> No.27979419
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Far too elegant for this uncivilized age.

>> No.27979431

Ah, yes, the stick. Second most useful thing ever.

>> No.27979436
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Pretty motherfucking elegant
tfw i am getting a trident tommorw

>> No.27979438

>makes noise just by being on
>can only deflect projectiles because they're slow and also glow

>> No.27979447
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Those things aren't even swords, they're essentially ultra-superheated clubs or batons. Logically, dueling with them would resemble Filipino stick-fighting more than fencing.

>> No.27979468
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And this is my backup weapon in case somebody breaks the stick.

>> No.27979471

Do clubs or sticks cut flesh like butter?

Dude, seriously.

>> No.27979474

>every part of the blade can burn through almost anything
>can deflect plasma bolts because wielded by psychic warrior monks who can sense aggression before it happens.

>> No.27979480
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Bonze weapons? How about the Egyptian khopesh?

>> No.27979486
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low lander sword?
Not elegant at all, but it will cut the head off a horse and still down a giant without dulling

>> No.27979495
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Yes, from a certain point of view.

>> No.27979499


No, but you don't rely as much on striking with a specific cutting edge, because every part of a stick, just like every part of a lightsaber, is a striking surface. Except that with a lightsaber, the motions are probably smaller since it CAN cut through things, not just bludgeon them.

>> No.27979516
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Bueno. Muy bueno. More, please.

I give you daarb

>> No.27979518
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damnit, I meant to type "bronze"

Here's a steel one, full-tang too.

>> No.27979528

>feeling something when you kill someone
So they only fight amateurs.

>> No.27979552

>the only good soldier is an unfeeling robot

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>> No.27979558

It works on emotionless things too, so odds are he's wrong about the mechanism and it's simply precognition.

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Would one strike with the inside or outside surface of the hook? I always assumed the inside, like with a falx, but from the hilt on that one it looks like it's designed to strike with the outer edge.

>> No.27979571

I thought the jedi did pretty well against robots?

>> No.27979574
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Shortsword and board. Nothing's elegant about ghe way I fight, but I don't lose.

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>> No.27979604
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My african-american friend

>> No.27979615

I was sarcastically green-texting this >>27979528

>> No.27979616

You strike a person with the outside, you are suppose to switch it around when someone else also has a weapon so you can hook it, pull it out of their grip, then switch it around again and cut them

>> No.27979620

Sucy is love.

>> No.27979635


Fair enough, I probably was. Precognition it is. It also makes it sensible why only jedi use the things. A non-jedi could still cut someone up, but blasters would wreck them and vibroblades are cheap on the black market.

>> No.27979636
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One of my NPCs is going to use a sharpened slab of blood-stained concrete. She used it as a last resort weapon fighting Mythos horrors in an apocalypse before she died and reincarnated with the sword still, now time-displaced and thus unbreakable, though still shitty jagged concrete.

It's an ugly 'sword' that does ugly things to ugly people. So not elegant at all!

>> No.27979637

My current rogue uses a kind of rapier-type-weapon I don't know the name of (seen it before on a thread like this). It's basically a long bladeless spike and from the top the sword looks like a square

>> No.27979648
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Nope, the standard khopesh was edged along the outer curve, like a scimitar or katana. However, the hooked end was often sharpened on the inner edge so that you could use it to rip open an opponents throat if you got the tip past the enemies shield.

>> No.27979666

Not a katana, katana are two handed sword (that's only got room for one hand), also the curved handle is a dead give-away.
That does not look like it's full tang, but it is a pretty weapon.

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>> No.27979680
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Not very elegant...but sometimes being straight forward in your intentions is better.

>> No.27979685
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And no fucks are given before, during and after.

>> No.27979689

that looks like a shamshir.

>> No.27979690
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It is, here's a pic of the hilt.

>> No.27979697
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Outwardly elegant? No.
But it is innocuous, simple to use, easily hidden, and still just as deadly.
Why be flashy when you can be efficient?

>> No.27979698

IIRC, a lot of the reason is you need to be force sensitive to tune a lightsaber. So, they're very expensive unless you're a jedi/sith/whatever, in which case they're fairly easy to make and well suited to their abilities.

>> No.27979708
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I always felt the weapon of a true hero was a mace. Swords are touted as heroic but they always seemed vaguely serpentine and deceptive weapons to my mind. Maybe because so much artifice and design goes into them, whereas a mace is almost natural and an axe is a tool before a weapon.

>> No.27979737

Oversized sidearms are like the SUV of guns.
only good for showing off, and if you have a small penis/penis envy

>> No.27979741
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Its by Scorpion Swords and Knives, ALL their work id full-tang. Here's a pic of the hilt of their "Black Asp" sword.

>> No.27979751

counts as a sword and an axe? WHERE DO I SIGN UP?

>> No.27979760

My weapon of choice is minions. I like to think the ways I use them are elegant, but in all honesty I have to admit many of them are not.

>> No.27979777

That's a liuye dao, or willow leaf saber.

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>> No.27979804

A reason I don't think maces get used by heroes much is that they don't seem like they would be very clean or good seeming weapons. It would be weird to see Arigorn covered in bone chips and orc brain while sickeningly crunching his way into a dense melee. Not saying slicing someones head off is a necessarily "heroic" way of going about it.

On the other side of things if we go the he-man rout then maces, like lazers, only bruise people and knock them out so they're a go.

>> No.27979817
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Derringers always did get me hot. So small, compact, smooth, and elegant, but still utterly singular in purpose. *PIP* *PIP* dead.

>> No.27979828
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I like to think elegance is in utility.
Use them as one or separate, butterfly swords still cut skin from bone

>> No.27979836
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mm the seax

>> No.27979847
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Damn. Os I think you gonna really despise my building-sized mecha and his gun.

>> No.27979862

they may not be the prettiest but its a gentlemans weapon for sure

>> No.27979873
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I suppose, yeah. They are mean, nasty weapons, but I guess that's why I like them for being honest about it. Axes get the clean cut too, but are much more brutal and unforgiving -- I like the contrast of a tool of creation pressed to become a tool of murder, and how honest it is in doing that as it is in felling wood.

>> No.27979877
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Warhammers are good, too. Better if they have a decent back-spike, too. Both ends are superior against full plate than any other weapon.

>> No.27979885
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by which I mean the shillelagh of course

>> No.27979891
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>How elegant is your weapon of choice, /tg/?
I personally think it's very elegant.

>> No.27979893
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I gotta have to grab my rifle, I might get cut getting near you with all this edgy.

>> No.27979909
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I'd say, like a good spear, the warhammer is the tool of an honest killer who makes no pretension of their intent. It's going to kill you, painfully, and quickly. It can't lie or pretend to be heroic or noble.

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>> No.27979940

I lol'd

>> No.27979966
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The Kemti recruitment office, 425 east Khamose avenue, Thebes.

>> No.27979977
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This is a bladed spear I made today. It is 5.5 feet long and 5.2 pounds. Steel with bamboo mop handle. Center of gravity is slightly towards the head of the spear; intention was for the fore hand to grasp the center of gravity and move the spear and the rear hand to swivel and rotate the spear. Currently not sure if this is any better than simply having the center of gravity dead center between fore and rear hands.

Mounting is a hybrid of a tang and socket. It's as sturdy as a good war weapon but unnecessarily heavy and time consuming to building. A simple socket would've been more than enough.

Still needs sharpening and heat treatment.

Offensive Features:
Spear for thrusting
Blade for slashing
Blunt buttspike

Defensive Features:

Not great compared to most polearms which at least have a hook for tripping and pulling, langets for better blocking, and some combination of lugs / wings / disk guards to trap enemy weapon or protect the hands. Will experiment making a few other weapons like mace and shortsword before create more ornamental works.

>> No.27979995
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Axes are wonderful.

>> No.27979999
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Well i think shes elegant

>> No.27980002

Tell me more about that helicopter.

>> No.27980016
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You call that a knife?
This is a knife!

>> No.27980034
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You people put way to much faith in blades or bludgeons

>> No.27980051

That looks overdesigned, the handle-facing lower edge of the blade has all those edges that would never see flesh due to the almost bearded-axe quality of it.

>> No.27980060
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No. This is a knife. Look how I stab after shooting you 6 times!

>> No.27980064
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The true irishmans weapon!

>> No.27980072
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Well... Not exactly.

>> No.27980077
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Barely used it; not that into helicopters. Nimble enough to pick up Ultramarines meeting a specific pose requirement and air drop them unto a battlefield.

>> No.27980078
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Nay, laddie, THIS IS A KNIFE!!!!

>> No.27980084
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>Not gun-axe

>> No.27980099
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Please. THIS is a knife!

>> No.27980100
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Axes are incredibly honest and without pretension. It's either going to fell wood, or fell people. That's it.

Of course, the modern cousin is honest in its own noisy and flashy manner.

>> No.27980101

Why do you have two calendars? Are you a wizard?

>> No.27980103

I've got my knife right here!

>> No.27980104
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How about this one, then?

>> No.27980123
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A Grosse Messer? Not bad. Here's a more modern (and slightly prettier) one.

>> No.27980128
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OH wait no....where is it
I've got my knife right here!

>> No.27980136
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I can't quite pin down why, but I have a massive hard-on for civilian tools used as or fashioned into weapons.

Maybe because it's a direct inverse of the "swords into plowshares" adage.
Maybe it's the vision of the downtrodden worker taking up arms using whatever he has at his disposal.

>> No.27980139


Reminds me that one of the weapons I wanted to make was a piston spear powered with a 12 gram CO cartridge. Impact pierces the CO2 cartridge and drives the spear forward along an 8" stroke with nearly 3000 N of force. CO2 is then recycled to automatically open the breech and eject the CO2 cartridge. A wrist mounted variety would be cool as well.

>> No.27980140
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Not very elegant.

>> No.27980145
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...and if you absolutely have to yes you can stab someone with it.

>> No.27980157
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So I heard you liked guns and knives...

>> No.27980160

Why the hell does the end of it have a spike? Do you fancy impaling yourself every time you make a large swing?

>> No.27980173
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It's not exactly elegant, per se, but it is fulfilling. Something about the thought of swinging one of these at the full end of the handle straight into a wooden tower shield, the mere thought makes me fucking giddy.

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>> No.27980189
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How about an old fashioned broadsword? Simple, straightforward and elegant.
I present to you the schiavonna

>> No.27980194
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>Maybe it's the vision of the downtrodden worker taking up arms using whatever he has at his disposal.

That, mostly. These started as tools. They were stolen or pressed into service to murder others, to harvest blood and not wheat. The very symbol of bringing life, the scythe harvesting grain, is the symbol of death and chaos.

Swords feel so... manufactured, and fairy tale. Something trying to be royal ans a symbol and a cross when its the same murderous metal as the axe, hammer, sickle, spear.

Swords are like knives that stopped pretending they don't want to hurt you while dressing it up as something divine and grand.

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>> No.27980211


Oh shit, another Heavy Gear player. I'm using a Blazing Mamba in the game my group is running. That Gatling Laser is ridiculous. I'm thinking of switching to something else just because it does so much damage its unreal.

>> No.27980215
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Meet the Penetrator.
Maybe it's not elegant. but when you need to bludgeon and humiliate, there's nothign better than a gigantig purple muscular dick.

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It is the opposite of elegant.

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Time wizard. The lady calendar is 1967 and was found in an abandoned psychiatric hospital.

She is probably 70 years old now.

This is a crossbow I am trying to design. The bow worries me because it needs to be a specific steel and treatment to work properly / safely. Might just go with wood to begin with.

>> No.27980244
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It was patterned after the Deathdealer's axe. Frazetta for the win?

>> No.27980251
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In that case you'll probablly like the Bill

An old fashioned tool attached to a polearm and used to spear and trip enemies and trag horseman from their mount
Quite elegant for a predominantly peasant weapon

>> No.27980252

Spoiled youn'ens. We didn't have yer fancy metalurgy or newfangled forges. All we had was sticks. Two sticks. for all of us. and a rock. and we had to share the rock

>> No.27980262

For some reason the use of the guard as a stand-in for the hilt really hits a button in my head. It gives a weapon normally made for swinging feel just as dangerous as a piercing weapon. It's obviously no better at stabbing than any other sword like it, but it just feels much more...forward.

>> No.27980269

You know, for a semi-magic game, this would be a decent indicator of magic, when a weapon clearly looks ornamental but functions even better than a service weapon.

>> No.27980275
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This might be useful.
And have you considered using a small leaf spring for the bow?

>> No.27980304
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>> No.27980305

Aerodynamics does a lot to perception of an item's quality and purpose. Make it look slender and hawk-like and it will be treated with as much respect and fear as one. Not to mention the idea of your whole hand vanishing and becoming a part of the sword thanks to the basket hilt makes it seem somehow more agile and sinister.

>> No.27980313
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>7 people to fire the gun properly
This is beautiful!

>> No.27980330

No, but I that would work. I sometimes get in stuck in the habit of fabricating everything myself and lose sight of better options.

>> No.27980337

Agreed, i think part of it is that you dont seem expose you hand to strikes when you hold it ready thrust like you do with a cross guard

>> No.27980357

Oh shit they're firing at each other! HOLY SHITT

>> No.27980359

Well I just think the guard is pretty

>> No.27980366
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the curvature of both the haft and of the blade edge make that an incredibly deadly weapon even without magic. It's another Scorpion Swords and Knives piece, and they bend the haft via steam-method, to preserve the wood-grain and strengthen the haft instead of just cutting it out like the prettier but flimsier licensed version at the official site (FilmSwords)

>> No.27980387

That is also a good trick. If it looks more expensive and pretty, one can assume it's very well made if it's being used for combat, and not just an ornamental piece, and thus more dangerous.

I mean... speaking of ornamental, is this really a functional weapon?

>> No.27980417

I may be wrong, but the curvature of the handle leads me to think it allows the user to put more of their peak leverage of the swing into the weapon before impact, maybe.

>> No.27980445
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Far more elegant in practice than you'd expect.

>> No.27980462
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You can't have anything more elegant that a maid, unless its a butler...

>> No.27980463

Dude I am pretty sure that is an unrealistic made up weapon and would not actually be a superior axe at all

>> No.27980472

For some reason I've always had this imagined move with one of those where the person vaults of the tip and swings with an aerial rotation to cleave something with tremendous force. Utterly impractical and physical improbable, but I always imagine it.

>> No.27980474
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The one I pictured in >>27980366 ?
That one, no. But the one in >>27980104
is VERY MUCH functional.
The axe-head is secured in with four 1/4 inch lag-bolts and Gorilla-Glued for extra security before the ornamental head-cap is sealed to the (also Oak) haft. I LOVES me this axe!

>> No.27980492


Wait, aren't Jedi suppose to suppress their feelings and act more like >>27979528 ?

>> No.27980500
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>> No.27980505

Rolled 67

I personally prefer rapiers as elegant weapons

>> No.27980512
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It's pretty classy

>> No.27980515

No nagel.
Bronze hilt furniture

Nah, that's not a messer.

>> No.27980520

Not exactly, but the curve does provide two benefits:

1. Puts the center of gravity of the axe head inline with the user's wrist instead of jutting forward. Slightly easier to twist and rotate.

2. Slightly adds curvature to the axe blade as it meets flesh. This changes the angle cross section of the blade and allows the blade to be "sharper" than if it were straight (hard to explain, but it's the whole reason why curved weapons like katanas exist).

>> No.27980650
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It isn't big, it isnt threatning and it doesnt have any significant range

But its sharp its, concealable and I can legally carry it as part of my cultural heritage so long as I wear along with scottish dress

>> No.27980652
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There is none more elegant.

>> No.27980653

hey, do any of you guys ever find it annoying that whenever there is a sword in a show with white people it is always a katana?
Pulp fiction, kill bill, all of those other indie movies
What ever happened to good old claymore and broadswords

>> No.27980699

Or if you want something a little lighter a sabre or some other sort of cut and thrust blade

>> No.27980701

Blame "Highlander"

>> No.27980720

>12-barreled gun.jpg
>has only 10
boy, you got a -10 on Perception checks, don'tcha

>> No.27980727

Fuck, ninja'd!

>> No.27980741

You missed the two in the grip facing downwards

>> No.27980747

You got to understand

America used to be weeaboo as hell


>> No.27980757

fuck highlander They named a MaCloud Connor, The MacDonald Take a metric ton of offense at that

>> No.27980771
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There not what I call elegant but they are effective

>> No.27980802

>giving a fuck about clans
American desperate to look special detected.

>> No.27980808

hope you can put some force behind those, but bonus points for being easily hidden

>> No.27980822


It's the Imperial Way, son. Loving it means you're loving the Emperor.

>> No.27980824

you know if might help if you could spell McLeod...

>> No.27980831

so close, welsh and there are no sheep to take it out on

>> No.27980836
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If you're doin' that, why not go Wolverineaboo?

>> No.27980841

No it was a legitimate complaint that happened, it doesnt really matter any more
Even here in scotland the clans are less relevant than native american tribes are in america

>> No.27980865

If you're gonna carry something that big, just carry a regular fucking knife.

>> No.27980925

Well, so much for THAT attempt at humor...
aspergar's much?

>> No.27980981
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Kriegsmessers, and some examples of grossemessers and langesmesser (the terms may actually be interchangable) also look a bit like katana with Western fittings. Personally when I see a sword that looks like a katana with a cruciform hilt, I call it a kriegsmesser until someone corrects me.

I also can't tell you much about the use, or what kind of armor it went up against, sorry.

>> No.27980995
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Only slightly more elegant than the average warhammer.

>> No.27981024

Except if you're a Campbell who's given the job of running the museum at Glencoe.

at which point Macleans had a shit-fit.

>> No.27981031

the real difference is in how the blade are actually forged, but functionally they are pretty damn similiar
which is strange considering one was the utmost expression of the warrior class
and the other was a tool and home and hearth defense weapon

>> No.27981032
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While I prefer a good battleaxe or warhammer, when it comes to swords, I love this one. "Damascus" (actually pattern-welded, really) steel viking-style broadsword, razor sharp, and surprisingly light. It was the very LAST Christmas present my ex-wife bought for me.

>> No.27981056

ah saints row. it might be silly but god its fun.

>> No.27981064

Actually, the armor it was most often used against was old-fashioned brigandine.

>> No.27981069

>Hey, you can't make swords!
>It's not a sword! It's just a really big knife!
>Oh. Carry on then.

>> No.27981092

It was a Legal fiction, but an important one.

>> No.27981093
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>> No.27981113

hey man, my cousin is a MacAllister and he got a job up keeping DunVegan once the head of the clans found out my cousin was getting angree calls and letters for months

>> No.27981126

actualy, to the people who invented the katana, a katana is any single bladed sword longer than a hand's bredth

>> No.27981136
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Unless you came up against someone is plate armor. Then you drop the sword and fell back on warhammers and maces, like smashing a crab.

>> No.27981151

*angry* shit my dyslexia kicking in

>> No.27981153
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>> No.27981168

those are so pretty

>> No.27981203
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short versions of it (because the long verson is 100 pages and a PhD) - messers are principally civillian arms, designed for light or unarmoured self-defence, which originated with lower classes but quickly rose to higher-class stature. Though there are a number of stories of them getting around the law on carrying swords, there's actually very little hard evidence to back up that claim in manuscripts. Messers are generally extremely lightweight - with some exceptions, the military kreigsmesser, for example - but the majority are designed for lightweight cutting strokes, in which they served a similar role to the falchion, as unarmoured, lightewight arms. in use they were principally a germanic/polish/bohemian weapon, while the falchion is more a western european franco-italian weapon.

>> No.27981221

I did the same, typing "is" instead of "in", and "fell" instead of "fall".

>> No.27981277
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I'm surprised no-one's brought up the Composite Longbow. More power behind an arrow fired from a properly made CL than that of a .357 Magnum.

>> No.27981302

>in the midst of all this excitement, I can hardly remember myself, did I loose 5 arrows, or six. So the question you've got to ask yourself is, do you feel lucky, Knave?

does'nt really work as well with a bow, does it?

>> No.27981307

a composite?
well at least you aren't using a compound bow...

>> No.27981310
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I prefer recurve.

>> No.27981311
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A lovely specimen, don't you think?

>> No.27981369

Maces also aren't as wieldy as Swords. Swords are seen as a skilled, disciplined weapon, while maces are seen as brutish and thugish.

>> No.27981469
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But they ARE better at splattering brains all over the scenery, old chap.

>> No.27981487

Um, aren't recurve bows the ones which have reversed tips that point away from the archer and cause the string to touch the limb? That's not a recurve bow.

>> No.27981494

Where can I get one of those?
Can I get it in the size of a mini-bat, for personal concealment?

>> No.27981499

People also forget how much skill it takes to properlly wield them without leaving yourself open to an easy counterattack or how to properlly land a hit with such a top heavy weapon

>> No.27981520

It is, its just not strung all the way
you destring recurves because they depend on their shape, if you keep the string on you start to warp the bow and it loses shape

>> No.27981528

Why do Clerics always wield maces?

>> No.27981551

I agree, I actually like maces.

But heros have to be seen as skilled and somewhat noble; definitely not crude and brutal at least.

>> No.27981569
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The only weapon a real man uses

In fact, I am so right that I am going to /thread my own comment


>> No.27981591


>no net to hopelessly entangle your enemies

Do you even elegant?

>> No.27981597

It's strung in reverse because I didn't feel like fully stringing it just for the shot. That's how a recurve's limbs sit when relaxed.

>> No.27981598

Probably to get their hateboner on harder for undead.

Clubs have also been viewed as a priestly weapon because it spills less blood than cleaving someone, IIRC.

>> No.27981600

Its a holyman's weapon. People point to a passage in a holy text about not shedding blood, but the passage is obscure, and even rounded, not-flanged maces will make a nigga bleed.

A mace looks more humble then a sword, imo.

>> No.27981602
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I'd like to see anybody punch out a dude in full plate.

Seriously I'd really like to see it.

>> No.27981605

That's what SHIELDS are for!

>> No.27981611

cause you arnt supposed to draw blood, and the stupid cunts in the vadacin who made that law didnt know how maces work

>> No.27981615
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For the first one we're looking at a blade which is mostly just one big fuller with edges added on. That's pretty damn far from any geometry we're likely to ever see on a katana. The second is hard to tell, but it looks to me like a basic triangle/wedge shape with a raised "yelman" and a substantial fuller. Closer, but still quite a bit off, and that without considering the possible (highly likely even I would guess) differences in thickness and distal taper.

Swords are very much three dimensional object, thinking that some vague similarities in profile means the blades are the same will often lead you astray.

>It's a Swiss Saber
The original that the sword is OP's pic is based on is probably Swiss. That the whole "bastard sabre" concept would be Swiss lacks support from what I've understood.

If you want a specifically Swiss sabre style then the odds are better if we take a sabre blade, a hilt from the Schwedendegen/pseudo-walloon-family, and a animal head pommel and assemble a sword from that.

>> No.27981621
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Holy water sprinklers don't get enough love.

>> No.27981638

>When just sprinkling holy water doesn't work, and you gotta beat the heathen out of someone

>> No.27981643
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>the other was a tool and home and hearth defense weapon
Occasionally the Imperial home and hearth.

>> No.27981648
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Somewhat, though a bit unorthodox.

>> No.27981650

On that note, why the fuck ARE they called holy water sprinklers?

>> No.27981668

They look like the tool used to sprinkle holy water.

>> No.27981686

because of the water effects that it produce when you caved someones head in

>> No.27981697

>Blood and brain matter = holy water

I like it.

>> No.27981715
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Not exactly elegant, but adaptable.

>> No.27981720

Medieval Priests could be suprisingly snarky yes

and yes captcha it is a MILITARY tinglfr

>> No.27981721
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Mother fucker stole my gun!

>> No.27981726
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>Clubs have also been viewed as a priestly weapon because it spills less blood than cleaving someone,

A relative modern (19th century again?) myth which has passed into a lot of modern day role playing games and the like. The one bit of support which may perhaps be found for it is that Bishop Odo wields a mace in the Bayeux tapestry. But so does Wilhelm, yet suggest that Barons always used maces and it starts getting rather obvious how silly it is to draw such conclusions from that material.

In reality a man of the church who went to war in the middle ages or rennaisance would have equipped himself in the same manner as any knight or nobleman of similar means.

>> No.27981734
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Some may argue that it is not.
I, however, disagree. It is beautifully engineered, and excels at its single purpose with an absolute minimum of waste or operative requirements.
It is, in some ways, the perfect battlemech.

>> No.27981735

Sure. I wouldn't be surprised if the club/scepter being kingly played into it to a certain extent.

>> No.27981740
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The most elegant weaponry ever created

>> No.27981747
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That man needs a hair cut, here, let me do it

>> No.27981762
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I think she's pretty, anyways.

>> No.27981766
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One of my favorite fantasy weapons are short spears.

What are they really called though? "Short Spears"? Do they have a special name? Were they ever really used in history?

>> No.27981783
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I fell in love with these due to a certain videogame series of the previous decade.

>> No.27981789
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That's less of a short spear and more of a sword staff.

>> No.27981796

Japanese version of that would be the Nagamaki

>> No.27981804
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>Medieval Priests
To the best of my knowledge the various "polearm morgensterns" are rather weapons of peasants, town militia and some mercenaries. The name doesn't seem to come from any connection to the church, instead it creates the notion that there is such a link.

>> No.27981832

Yeah, its quite possible your right
But maces were often wielded by priests and the name could of been derived from the face that priests used these weapons even if it was peasants who named it

Cant think of a way to prove either right now

>> No.27981840
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It may be edgy as fuck but it gets a x4 crit and has the ability to trip attack.


we /k/ now.

>> No.27981849
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In China there's some dadao that reach similar proportions, but their blades aren't terribly spear-like (even less so than nagamaki).

The zulu iklwa is probably the best match in reality. They come in a wide range of sizes and proportions, from somethign like this to somewhat less extreme takes on the spear.

>> No.27981852

> 4 PPCs

Mein negro. I haven't even played Battletech anything since Mechwarrior 2 on Windows 98, and I still got a little chuckle.

Though if I had to nitpick about your no-waste statement, I would probably have to bring up that having arms without hands is kind of silly.

>> No.27981869
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I'll take the functional version

>> No.27981872

>having arms without hands is kind of silly.
They allow greater range of motion with which to aim the weapons mounted on them.

>> No.27981877

True, but so would a conventional turret arrangement, and it would leave the weapons far less vulnerable.

>> No.27981887

And the Ball is a more practical layout for a space-based weapons system than the Zaku. But the Zaku is infinitely cooler.

>> No.27981891

It literally has no extra crit space.
It cannot mount hands, although I do agree with you. Hands would improve it.

>> No.27981913

Nigga you BEST not be talkin' shit on the Ball.

>> No.27981929

Turrets would take an extra .5, no, 1 ton. If you put both PPCs on a turret, it'd be 1.5 tons per.
It'd have a wider field of fire, certainly, but you'd have to drop either heat sinks or armor.

No, the arm layout is fine as-is.You can cover your rear with a simple torso-twist to the left or right, although not having flippy arms means you can only bring a single PPC to bear upon them.
Of course, "only" is a relative term here. It's still a Clan ERPPC.

>> No.27981937
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It would look something like that so you tell me

>> No.27981954
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>Cant think of a way to prove either right now

Strictly speaking it's impossible to show that there isn't any special link here between priests and maces (or any variation that theme), because the complete absence of anything showing such a link could either be because the link never existed, or because the evidence simply hasn't survived to our days.

Thus the way we have to go about these things is to go with the option "there was no link" until it an be properly proven that there was. In technical terms you stick to the null hypothesis until given sufficient reason to reject it.

Now some of these may of course have been wielded by priests (in that case probably ones pretty low in the hierarchy), because even if they aren't to have had any preference for them, there isn't any reason to assume they had anything in particular against them either.

>> No.27981983
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Elegant as fuck.

>> No.27982043


What IS this thing made to do? Core heavily armored mechs like apples?

>> No.27982051

Holy shit, that is pretty much the exact same crossbow design that a friend and I were making.

What you ought to do is get a piece of leaf steel form a junkyard (we got one from a trailer in aforementioned junkyard) and grind the fuck out of it till it's the right shape. Leaf springs have an excellent temper for the sort of thing.

>> No.27982100

Well, let's look at a new toy my character just acquired in Shadowrun.
Made from cheap materials that nobody bothers to track purhcases of?
Capable of slipping past most weapons scanners?
Able to kill a man?
If you know what you're doing.

>> No.27982107

Yes. It can keep up a sustained barrage for as long as it wants, at superior ranges and with superior firepower than most mechs, not to mention it can remove a cockpit in a single blow. And its armor lets it sustain concentrated return fire.
To top it off, its also fast for its size, although it is slow for a battlemech.

>> No.27982118

one day teegee will be fapping over your combination of reliable metalworking and ornate flairs.
go with our blessing, young smith.

>> No.27982131

Nigger thats just some folded sheet metal, you couldn't stab a paper bag with it

>> No.27982151

There are a few things wrong here. One is that you seem to assume that these knives were combinable because of the sheathed picture but actually they are not. The real name for them is baat Cham dao or "8 chop swords". They appear combined because they are traditionally sheathed in a pair of side by side sheaths. I can go more in depth if you really want me to.

>> No.27982153

Fair enough but the reason I said I couldnt prove it right now is because it wasnt my field of research or speciality

>> No.27982206
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"The Spit" by Zombie Tools was inspired by the Iklwa.

>> No.27982237
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>> No.27982266

This is due entirely to modern roleplaying games, specifically, DnD. In DnD, Clerics don't have proficiency with martial weapons and maces count as a simple weapon; therefore, maces (1d8 damage) are among the best weapons out there.

>> No.27982298

The allow you to trap the blade of anyone who blocks your haft, you simply pull towards you and twist, and now you're dragging their weapon. Which is good, because blocking the haft of an axe is pretty effective.

>> No.27982308

you lie.
pics of divorce papers or it didn't happen. pics of sword would also be nice.

>> No.27982344


You trollin, son?

6/10 almost believed can't count

>> No.27982351
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Okay, here you go broseph

>> No.27982361
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and another one for good measure. There's probably more shots of these guys, but these pages are the only ones I have handy

>> No.27982378

In my current campaign my character uses a dagger and a light crossbow made of shapesand. Nothing too fancy, but they get the job done. Though I guess I could make the shapesand turn into a really elegant weapon of some sort if I really wanted to.

>> No.27982390
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Well I lied, it's not a fullplate, but still, punching guys wearing plate armor dead. Another shot of these guys, though it doesn't really show them punching through the plate, just breaking the fleshy unprotected bits.

>> No.27982408


Death and chaos in only the modern interpretation. The original idea of using the scythe for death is more like... "To God, the greatest man is as chaff on the wheat. Death comes for us all, and without discrimination."

>> No.27982413

Wouldn't be too different from actual harnessed fighting. Just pull off their helmet and punch them after wrestling them down, instead of stabbing through a slit or breaking joints

>> No.27982422

You'd just need to knock him on his ass, given the vast speed advantage it wouldn't be that hard to land a strong side kick and then just break the guys neck

>> No.27982423

Fairly Elegant.

It has the finesse and wieldiness of a Rapier with the ability to slash and block of the Arming Sword.

>> No.27982432
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And, for the grand reveal, my weapon!

>> No.27982443

You sound like a fourteen year old kid.

>> No.27982446


Unlike his gif, your gif lost its background after one full cycle.


>> No.27982455

how would that not work? not to mention he also would have limited vision

>> No.27982462

Lemme guess, you think full plate keeps you from getting up on your own?

>> No.27982465

It doesn't, but it takes a lot more effort to get up after each knock down

>> No.27982480


...you mean MacLeod?

>> No.27982488


...If you're gonna carry a regular fucking knife, just carry Wolverine claws.

Seriously what fucking advantage are you imagining that overcomes the fact thaty ou have Wolverine claws?

>> No.27982499

Practicality and concealability.

>> No.27982509

>Kick full plate
>Do nothing but hurt your leg
When you kick, its your body weight against his if you are aiming to knock him down, and he isn't going anywhere while his plate and padding underneath absorb the energy released by your kick.

>> No.27982513

But the claws conceal inside your hands duh.

>> No.27982527

If you have REAL Wolverine claws.
But those things aren't real Wolverine claws.
And you don't have the healing factor, so you'll fuck your hand up when you pop them out.

>> No.27982530
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Not cutty enough. Give me a broad-bladed basket hilt.

>> No.27982534

True, but that added weight is going to make someone top heavy, and besides that its F=M*A

>> No.27982544

I'm not sure you'll be able to knock someone over if they're in full plate. Not to mention the fact that you'll break your fucking leg if you kick hard metal repeatedly.

>> No.27982552

I like those, too.

But they just aren't as.. wieldy is the best word I can think of. I'm a big guy too, but after handling a spada da lato(or similar sword) most others feel slightly... oafish.

>> No.27982557

>top heavy
>armor covers entire body

>> No.27982564

Where is the most protection?

>> No.27982570

I don't know, depending on how strong your legs are and how much joint protection he has, a kick to the knee could break it, or at least knock them down.

It's hard to get someone in full plate, but not impossible if you're good enough at grappling.

>> No.27982571

Try a Danish axe one of these days. After that, any sword you're likely to hold will feel like an Olympic foil.

>> No.27982580
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>> No.27982581
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Not very.

>> No.27982582

>Force in a collision
You dumbass. Momentum. M*V.

>> No.27982585

My weapon of choice is...


And I use it to break my enemies' hearts.

>> No.27982589

halberds are shit on their own though

>> No.27982590

Thermonuclear hand grenades ain't too elegant. They make one hell of a final 'Fuck You' to your fellow troubleshooters, though.

>> No.27982602

My brother of another color from Africa.
The orkiest gun in existance.

>> No.27982606

Force is going to be applied to the upper chest of the person in full plate, If its enough despite the lack in mass behind it the person in full plate will topple

>> No.27982611

Remember that that would only work if they are standing casually.
In a combat stance a persons weight would be spread more evenly and the center of gravity lowered.
If you had a hooked weapon in which you could lever some force, or hell even manage to hook your leg in his and are stronger, then you could feasibly trip them.

>> No.27982622
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>needing a plane

>> No.27982632
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I own one of these.
It's not as pretty now though.. since I use it for real combat

>> No.27982635

Yes, for the brief millisecond of impact, unless you can continue to apply significant pressure with your leg stretched out. Most humans can could hold stance against that if they are readied, its the damage to bone and organ that makes people faultier. In plate, the only bone getting hurt is yours.

Meanwhile, he swings through your kick and cripples you before you even start to regain your balance. Mace swings aren't slow like in games, once the pain comes for you it comes fast.

>> No.27982636
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Not very, but it gets the job done

>> No.27982646

Fine, next /tg/ meet up we'll do some testing, get your full plate ready and I'll get my legs ready

>> No.27982665

Did warhammers with brick heads ever really exist? Like, as actual weapons?

>> No.27982681

>If its enough despite the lack in mass behind it the person in full plate will topple
They'll stagger back some, at best. A human being is not a pillar that just falls over the moment it's delicate balance is upset.

>> No.27982684

I know this from actually doing Martial arts.

I've taken some serious kicks to my midsection and eve toppled over. I did lose my footing and stumble once, and that is because my stance was narrow(I was leaning in for a cross). I did have a rib broken though, that hurt.

I can only imagine that in plate I'd laugh off that shit.

>> No.27982687


Do you really think a kick would knock him down? Maybe if you could plant your foot on his chest and shove, MAYBE, but he'd have your leg off, by then. The point of armor is to absorb and distribute impacts, mang. Kicking a guy in full plate, even if you were Jackie Chan, would put the force of your kick 1) through steel, then more steel chained, then thick leather, then cloth, each with extremely high levels of flex, and also 2) directly back into your own foot, snapping that shit like a twig

>> No.27982696

it is when there's a ton of added weight to it, with restricted movement.

>> No.27982698


They're only about 3'x8', that's easily fit into my interior pockets.

>> No.27982702

Never, I meant never.

>> No.27982716

>Added weight
This is not a bad thing.
>Restricted movement
This does not happen with plate.
Just straight does not happen.

>> No.27982724

You're going to tell me that your movements are not going to be restricted even a slight amount

>> No.27982728

>a man in full plate is incapable of moving one of his feet back about a foot and a half
Sure thing kid.

>> No.27982736

If you have never worn it before you may tire more easily but unless the plate is not fitted to you properlly then it does not restrict movement.
Its just easier in games to say it does than try and figure in a fatigue system.

>> No.27982739


Are you serious? Do you think nobody ever kicked anybody in history until you came along? If it were the year 800, and some asshole KICKED Lord Saxe over, THEY CHANGE THE FUCKING ARMOR.

A) Armor is designed to distribute the force of impact B) People wearing armor train in that armor, its weight is second nature to them

But seriously, we can all tell you're a teenager because you think this would work.

>> No.27982750

None of the ones relevant to not falling on your ass.
You're not gonna be working a smartphone or anything, but you still have full range of movement in the limbs. Kind of a necessity to being able to fight in the shit.

>> No.27982770

The biggest problem with heavy armor was that it made you tire and it made actions such as climbing on a horse or getting through tight spaces more difficult.
But it was designed to let you fight and that meant swinging a sword at a pretty damn good speed and being able to raise your arms for a block as well.

>> No.27982771

Where's the deadliest warrior when you need em

>> No.27982772


I doubt it. I just like the look of it, you'd need to be a strong son of a bitch to use something like that effectively

>> No.27982774

>implying 1 gun is better than 3 and some bombs and missiles

>> No.27982776
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Well-made plate restricts you to suck a small degree as to be entirely negligible.
It's not even 95% range of motion, more like 98-100%

>> No.27982785

Well-made armour does not impede your flexibility much, if at all. You lose a little in the torso, but nobody's going to be putting their legs behind their head in a battle scenario.

If you see a man in well-fitted armour who looks a little clumsy, the main two reasons for it are:

a) He's not used to the added weight on his extremities. This can be overcome with time and experience

b) He can't look down properly because of his gorget/visor/helmet/whatever. Again, this can be overcome with time and experience.

>> No.27982787


You couldn't lifts your legs behind your back, or scratch your shoulder-blades (assuming you had a scratching-hole), but anything else is basically fine. You could do a somersault or a cartwheel, if you were strong enough.

>> No.27982798

He has to be 15 at the most.

This level of theory fighting, very low level, and inability to realize that he isn't the first person to have an idea narrows it down to troll or >16 years old.

>> No.27982802

>You could do a somersault or a cartwheel, if you were strong enough.
I need a gif of this

>> No.27982803

>You could do a somersault or a cartwheel, if you were strong enough.
And before you try and be "clever", anyone who wears it, is going to train in it, and be strong enough.

>> No.27982810

naw I give up, you people know too much

>> No.27982829

>Well I lied, it's not a fullplate

Also, I don't know if you noticed ( I mean, it's subtle) but those are drawings.

Pretty easy to cheat the laws of physics in a drawing.

>> No.27982837

I find it hard to imagine that there isn't at least a clip of a video out there somewhere.

>> No.27982843

Oh yeah, just cart around a fucking minigun. REAL subtle there, buddy.
Aren't you supposed to be Foxhound's warrior poet type guy?

>> No.27982850

I mean, Kenshiro punched a motherfucking tank to death. It was cool, but obviously unrealistic as fuck.

>> No.27982851

Your ideas are just bad.

>> No.27982876
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Dat elegance.

(I actually use a saber, and used to be on the top 20 of saber fencers in the Nordic countries)

>> No.27982891

Subtlety is a thing for philosophy, not combat. If you're going to kill somebody, you might as well kill them a whole lot.

>> No.27982896

>not riding on your bomb into combat
Do you even Major Kong

>> No.27982903

BRB gotta go reread Last Days of Foxhound again
That shit is headcanon for me

>> No.27982932

I'm still behind the physics that it would work though

>> No.27982940

What is this, what can you tell me about it, and where can I find it?

>> No.27982943


Well the problem is its not quite as easily as >>27982803 may have implied, shit still weights like 60 pounds.

Still, don't we get at least one plate cartwheel in Monty Python's Holy Grail?

>> No.27982956


>> No.27982972
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The Last Days of Foxhound is a webcomic that affectionately parodies the fuck out of Metal Gear Solid. Be warned, it takes a bit to hit it's stride, and the art is rough as fuck.

>> No.27982976

I see no helm there

>> No.27983000

Happy now?

>> No.27983008
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Are partizans elegant?

>> No.27983623

Man, I can't even count the amount of times I read that. Really makes me feel a bit bad about murdering all of them...

>> No.27983724

There was one soldier in WW2 who literally strapped a fighter plane machine gun to his M1 Garand. Pic related.

>> No.27984659


No seriously, I have no idea how that weapon is supposed to work

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