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I have never played World of Warcraft, but I know draenei existed and are "Blue tieflings" in that they are also redeemed demons. I also like how they look so I saved a lot of art from /tg/.

How similar is their lore to 4e tiefling lore in general? Is it a straight rip, or just coincidental.

I liked this art.

>> No.27922514

They aren't redeemed demons. Like 90% of their race became demons, but the dreanei are the 10% who never fell.

>> No.27922566

>redeemed demons.
They aren't.

Demons, or at least one of the kinds (one of the earliest) are corrupted Draenei.

As for them being a rip off of 4e tieflings.
>Burning Crusade Release Date: January 16, 200
>4e PHB release: June 6, 2008

Not to mention the two things are basically radically different.
One is a bunch of psudo-romans who made a deal with the devil way back when and now their ancestors live as travelers or Venetians and other such things.

Meanwhile, the Draenie are goat-Paladins from space.

>> No.27922584

iirc Tieflings are the descendants of a race that made a pact with demons way back in the day.

>> No.27922624


A race called...


>> No.27922642


>draenei with glasses


>> No.27922645


Such a bizzare and horrible creature MAN must be.

>> No.27922658

They were good all along, its the rest of their race that fell.

They're more like blue aasimar cosplaying as blue tieflings whose women all have horsecocks

>> No.27922679

>this is actually widely accepted as canon

>> No.27922705

You're thinking of mithra. Draenei actually have males.

>> No.27922723

I don't see your point

>> No.27922727


>Implying the "cock" isn't an extended and external vagina designed to have a penis inserted into the tip.

>> No.27922926

>blue aasimar cosplaying as blue tieflings

The same way 4e tieflings isn't tieflings?

>> No.27923306
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>> No.27923455 [DELETED] 

They do, but you usually can't tell by looking at them. The flat-chested, broad-shouldered variety are actually older draenei of both sexes. In mid-life, when they cease to be sexually active, they undergo radical changes to their physique. Younger draenei of reproductive age are commonly identified as female by native Azerothians, but in fact could be either gender. You really can't tell until the pants come off and the horsecocks come out. Strange? Maybe. It would be stranger to expect an alien species to be just like us.

>> No.27923584 [DELETED] 


go back to /d/ for fucks sake

>> No.27923608 [DELETED] 

suck on a horse dong buddy!

>> No.27923645

They need to seriously rework male draenei

Theres a reason 90% of all draenei players are made female.

>> No.27923684

Then why is it always drawn as a horse cock?
They're not fucking bugs or hyenas or some shit. Why are Futafags so desperate to shove dicks down everythings mouth?

>> No.27923699

ask hentai foundry fuck if I know

>> No.27923754

>Burning Crusade Release Date: January 16, 200
Remember to give thanks to the Romans for giving us BC.

>> No.27923799


Is it possibly most players being heterosexual men who love staring at the hottest race in the game?

Just throwing out theories.

>> No.27923827

>hottest race

Draenei aren't well made fem trolls.

>> No.27923837

>Is it a straight rip, or just coincidental.
WoW came before 4e.

So if it is similar to WoW (and not at all like previous D&D), then 4e stole it from WoW.
Which I'm certain is not the case, you are just being retarded OP.

>> No.27923848 [DELETED] 


>hottest race in the game

That's a funny way to spell Blooworgen.

>> No.27923862

Similar to Eldar and Dark Eldar? Dohohoho Blizzard and GWS

>> No.27923869

>That's a funny way to spell Blooworgen.

Surely you're joking.

Otherwise dangerously furry

>> No.27923891

OK, here's the deal:
You have the Eredar, who are this race of powerful mages from some other world. Sargeras discovers them and corrupts the majority into major demons. A small number rejected this and fled across numerous worlds until they got to Outland and settled there until the Burning Legion showed up. The exiled ones - the "Draenei" in Eredar - then escaped once again and crash landed in Azeroth.

>> No.27923929

Tieflings are a race of humans who intentionally hybridized with demons a long time ago.

Draenei are the original form of a type of demon.

So very different.

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>> No.27924557

Might I request a American Astronaut in his space suit with a whispy wraith like creature holding him like a puppeteer with his semi lifeless face able to be seen as he smashes things with his bare hands.

>> No.27924844

That isn't how you spell Pandaren.

>> No.27925382


>fat furries

>> No.27925479

Draenei are Aliens.

So are Orcs.

Both became corrupted by the same force.
The end.

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>> No.27925813

Thing is, the Orc's corruption was temporary and wore off after they were trapped in Azeroth when the portal closed.

Corrupted Eredar are full-fledged demons. And that happened a long time before Sargeras found Outland.

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>> No.27930195

There was this race called Eredar, right.
Then one day some sketchy-looking dude comes up to the top 3 dudes of the Eredar and offers them great power. All but one refuse.
This one dude goes and takes a bunch of his people and scrams.
The rest of the Eredar become the demons.

IIRC "Draenei" meant "exiled" or something to that effect

>> No.27930203

Because this is their fetish.

And it's a horsecock because majority does not actually know how a goat cock looks, so they figure it's something similar and slap it on to go with the hooves.

>> No.27930239
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She's a medic.

>> No.27930286
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Just think of the things she can do with that finger...

>> No.27930340

Why has no one pointed out that Tieflings existed before 4E?

Or that Draenei as they exist in WoW didn't come up up until 2007 when Burning Crusade came out?

c'mon /tg/, you're better than this

>> No.27930366
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>Tieflings existed before 4E
Yes, but they looked like THIS, before 4e.

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>> No.27930387

I'm not sure if I should look up what a goat cock looks like now.

>> No.27930395
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Or like this. But only if they rolled good on the what random ass demon features do I get table.

>> No.27930412

Point is, they didn't look like Hellboy until 4e.
I actually really like 4e from a gameplay standpoint, but the newTieflings still bug me.

>> No.27930422
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Ya, and here's what they looked like in 3.5

>> No.27930444

I liked it better when eredar were straight up demons and draenei were just another native race on Draenor who were clinging on to survival against the orcs and demons.

I mean I like the blue space goat women as much as the next guy but the snake-mole people design was just much more interesting.

>> No.27930449

yeah, if only...

>> No.27930454

Yes, it was far cooler thank the strange blue goatmen they pulled out because they thought regular Draenei weren't pretty enough.

>> No.27930474


I rolled on the random ass demon table and got a cat-ape. I was still sex in a bag as a Descartes-esque bard.

>> No.27930500

>tfw no Neeshka romance path

>> No.27930504

Use old fluff.

>> No.27930510

Well the Draenei existed in the fluff as far back as the Warcraft 2 Manual (circa 1996), IIRC. Although there was no art, and they were really just a punching bag race for the orks at that point, and they weren't fleshed out until The Frozen Thrown.

>> No.27930596

I do. But that doesn't mean I'm not allowed to voice my mild displeasure with the new fluff.

>> No.27930730

why goat girl so sexy

>> No.27930909

because they are.

no pic related because I don't have any spacegoats saved for some stupid reason

>> No.27930921
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Hooves, my friend.
"Single Draenei female seeks blacksmith with grinding wheel to take care of me and my gorgeous hooves."

>> No.27930926

Are all demons in Warcraft just aliens?

>> No.27930939

Yeah. There's essentially one big "original" demon who is a titan (Sargeras? I think he was called) and everyone else are aliens he recruited.

>> No.27930942

In the sense that none of them are from Azeroth? Yes.

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Would you like a spacegoat girl guide of the thespian for halloween, anon? It's only "slightly" used!

>> No.27930956



Fuck you autocorrect.

>> No.27930968

Hooves, tail, horns...

Not to mention that spacegoats are aliens, orcs are aliens, gnomes dorfs and humans are descended from robots cursed by some elterich monster and were originally created by the guys who said original demon used to work with/for. Only natives really are trolls, pandas, goblins, elves, and tauren.

>> No.27930981

>those legs
Fuck, who needs to stand? If she were real I could just kneel and crawl for the rest of my life

>> No.27930984

You seem to be forgetting that elves are descended from trolls.

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And even then, elves are descended from trolls.

>mfw when I discovered that elves are mutated radioactive trolls.
>I love it.

>> No.27930990

I never forgot, they're still natives, just natives who fucked in the magic pool too long.

>> No.27930998

So, aside from the pandaren, all the original, non-warped races are now members of the Horde.

...goddamnit, Metzen.

>> No.27931017

I miss back when Warcraft Goblins were actually interesting, and rather unique mercantile race that would tame wilds, and occasionally invent dangerous technology. Now they're a huge Jersey Shore reference.

I hate Blizzard.

>> No.27931034

I believe the story goes titans create the well of eternity, some trolls mutate into night elves, titans create humans and dwarves in their own image, IE magic robot thingies made of either bronze or some other metal I forget which, titans fuck off for a few centuries/millenia, return to find cthulhu ass rape monsters have infested Azeroth, they get rid of most of them but the biggest ones have merged with Azeroth in such a way that the titans would have to destroy the planet to get rid of them, they decide to put them to sleep forever instead, big nasties levy the curse of flesh upon the humans and dwarves as their final act. And that's how all the races of Azeroth came to be. Oh almost forgot gnomes, I don't recall if they were naturally occurring or titan creations that got curse of fleshed.

>> No.27931037

Let me break it down to one thing.

>> No.27931050

Tell me you're joking.
I've been clean since a little after Burning Crusade. But please, tell me you're joking, and that they haven't actually destroyed the Goblins like that.

>> No.27931067


It's more like "they're jews".

But weren't they always jews?

>> No.27931071

They were always Jews.

>> No.27931072

Draenei aren't human at all.
Tieflings are mostly human. Demon touched humans.

In WoW Lore(how it was last time I checked)
They were first known as Eredar.
Most of the Eredar were corrupted by Sargeras(Dark Titan, leader of demons, blabla).
The Eredar who fled called themselves Draenei and met up with Space Wisps and turned into Space Paladins.
They settled on the Orc Planet which they called Draenor.
Later on a Draenei Space Ship crash landed on the Planet of Warcraft and you can play as one of those Draenei in WoW.

Preferred it when Eredar and Draenei(while they were ugly) were unrelated.

>> No.27931085

They're still merchant barons that develop incredibly dangerous technology. They're also walking Jersey Shore jokes.

>> No.27931140


I love how people have nostalgia for something that never existed, and get buttmad when it's actually implemented.

Gobbos were always a jew stereotype, and they're still a jew stereotype. There's just now also a Jersey Shore joke quest in the Swamp of Sorrows.

You're the kind of person who gets buttmad just because you like being mad.

>> No.27931146

Yes, basically. Mainly Eredar and Nathrezim (the vampire demon guys)

But you know, 'denizens of lower planes' is pretty much aliens too.

>> No.27931400


>> No.27931722

The Gnomes were originally the Mechagnomes, a race of purely mechanical beings under the direction of the Titanic Guardian Mimiron. Their role, as I recall, was to maintain Titanic machinery and repair their oher constructs. They too were afflicted with the Curse of Flesh like the Human and Dwarven ancestors.

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>> No.27932040

Demons - the Eredar flavor specifically - are asshole draenei, draenei are not redeemed demons. They're also Russian, for some indiscernable reason.

They're also all female and at least 95% have dicks anyway, if the roleplay servers are to be believed.

>> No.27932051
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m-muh dik

>> No.27932068

Not really Russian. Greek words for titles, weird composite eastern European accent that defies placing. Even if they were Russian... Why not? It's not like blue space goats screams Italian, or something.

>> No.27932080

>hate draenei for being iconic of 'the beginning of the end' of Warcraft Lore
>still find them aesthetically pleasing

It's like they were manufactured specifically to be desirable.

>> No.27932106

It seems a little out of left field, is all. I guess comparing the femdraenei to Russian super models isn't completely out of depth.

I think of the draenei more as what dumped rocket fuel into the engine of shitty RP. It would be lore's turn in the rape queue a couple of expansions later.

>> No.27932264

Burning Crusade in general was a clusterfuck.

You'll notice that every expansion since has basically tried to ignore that it happened. I'm convinced that a major part of this was Draenei and how terrible they were.

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Is it bad that I thought NWN2 was absolute shit? I mean the story was strung out, the camera was annoying and GOD DAMN HOLY SHIT ARE YOU FUCKERS STILL ARGUING?! SERIOUSLY STAY OUT OF MY PARTY GOD SHIT WHY ARE YOU EVEN HERE

>> No.27932315

Or maybe because it sits in it's own planet completely out of the way.

>> No.27932426

Ugh, right? Velen's model was perfect - no clue why they didn't use it for the whole race and make Velen look like a starving ascetic instead of a regular dude.

Yeah, basically. Only difference is the eredar made a faustian bargain while the DE got fuckall.

>> No.27932444

Blizz also doesn't want to update it so it's basically Vanilla's questing ethic IN SPACE. And since they took the rest of Vanilla content out back and shot it, it feels really fucking dated.

To be fair, there is at least one reference to Outland ingame post-Cata/Mists. It's a book describing a warlock congress that mentions each warlock of said congress being part of some big boss battle. The book concludes with one member of said congress heading to Outland, and you have to go there to get green fire from him as a 'lock.

>> No.27932662


Well with the Burning Legion up for the next two expacs, the draenei and Outland will most likely get a lot of attention again

>> No.27932898

And my giant horsecock

>> No.27932944
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>It's like they were manufactured specifically to be desirable.
Thats because they were. Its the same reason female orcs and trolls are just green/blue humans instead of looking something like pic related.

Hell, even the female taurens got dolled up. In the beta, they were more hunched over and looked like their male counterparts, but Blizzard slutted em up so more people would play them.

>> No.27932995


No, the Orcs were still tainted until Grom Hellscream killed the source--the Pit Lord Mannoroth.

>> No.27933109


Nobody even plays the ugly faces that are available, so I'd say it was the right choice.

>> No.27933147

Plain old NWN2 was mostly just eh, yes.

It got points mostly for feeling like a parody of fantasy stories, but played it just a bit too straight to really feel that way.

Now, Mask of the Betrayer? That shit was amazing.

>> No.27933174
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mithra and draenei really do have too much in common.

>> No.27933185

I wouldn't really say that, besides superficial elements.

Mithra are as a race pretty fucking crazy, after all.

>> No.27933212

Not really at all.

>> No.27933259
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But I'm not talking about the race...

>> No.27933354

Would you become a draenei girl?

>> No.27933400

Who wouldn't?

>> No.27933419

Would you fuck off back to /d/ already?

>> No.27933424
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Is that a rhetorical question?

>> No.27933454

I do

How am I supposed to play a crone if I can't pick a face that makes my character look like an old woman?

>> No.27933464

A vast majority will be yes, mainly because-it isn't human. The temptation of an experience in an alien body is too great. Then we'll get bored of that and want to be lamias, and so on and eventually we'll end up as thri-keen

>> No.27933479

I would rather be an orc male
>and eventually we'll end up as thri-keen
Except not, because thri-keen a shit.

>> No.27933499

That's one of the few bits of Warcraft lore I like. Puts a neat spin on the whole fae races thing, the progenitors weren't the great angels or enigmatic nature spirits, they were these savage fucking monsters who ritually cannibalized eachother and invented necromancy and shadow magic before the first demon ever set foot on their world.

>> No.27933508

>the progenitors weren't the great angels or enigmatic nature spirits,

Well actually they're floating magical chandeliers

>> No.27933511

>mainly because-it isn't human
That's a really poor excuse since they are by all means humans with weird bits and skin color.

>> No.27933526

Only if I managed to keep being male.

>> No.27933528


>he thinks other people like kreen

>> No.27933541

Well most people with a draenei fetish also like dicks, so its safe to assume that his definition of female dranei is loose at best and includes cocks.

>> No.27933550

to be fair, the trolls were the "nicest" of pre-titan savage races. Since those races spent most of their time worshipping/mind-raped into slavery to whatever Old God lived in their local area while trying to genocide the worshippers of the Gods who didn't, necrormancy and evil colored magic wasn't really a big deal.

>> No.27933568

>Well most people with a draenei fetish also like dicks
That's more of a Warcraft-related fetish these days.
Futas of fuck everything nowadays.

>> No.27933580


/d/ stands for dickgirls. It's not even just warcraft. It's EVERYTHING

>> No.27933584

Draenei still dominate the WoW dickgirl market, though. Some even have quantum boners that are sometimes vaginas.

>> No.27933608

>Play Wow
>Make Dorf
>Go to party at Inn in human town
>Draeni btiches wearing the skimpiest cosmetic outfits in the game
>Make all the lewd gestures and cheesiest pickup lines I can for shits and giggles
>2 Other Dorfs and a Gnome join in.
>They get mad at us and demand we apologize for being rude
>Ignore them for the naked Night Elf dancing on the table
>Get 5 news friends and invited into a guild

I know it's autistic but random gatherings in Inns or the middle of nowhere were one of my favorite parts of this game

>> No.27933616

Go back to posting shitty sameface porn on HF DrGraevling.


>> No.27933623

Congratulations, you discovered Moon Guard's Goldshire. Enjoy your CTDs.

>> No.27933666

Crash to desktop?

>> No.27933673

They're not progenitors, they're missionaries. Very lazy missionaries that haven't done anything significant since BC, and haven't done ANYTHING AT ALL since WotLK.

>> No.27933677

At least it isn't as bad as that Incase faggot. Goddamn, that dude can only draw one fucking face and puts it fucking everywhere.

>> No.27933681
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Humans are the descendants of the Vrykul.
Dwarves were once made of stone and called the Earthen.
Gnomes were the mechagnomes.

>> No.27933685

>They're not progenitors, they're missionaries.

Except they saved the remaining uncorruped draenei and turned trolls into night elves. Yeah, they're not doing much NOW, but they were fucking around a lot back in the day

>> No.27933688

Cyber-Transmitted Diseases.

>> No.27933698

Azeroth must have been shit pre-titan.
You have savage Panda, Trolls, Tauren and Goblins. The Goblins are only smart due to radiation, Trolls are fucking stupid savages, and everyone else was some sort of bug worshipping some sort of old god.
I'm glad the Titans cleansed the world.

>> No.27933724

>you can't play as vrykul
I may be a little bit of a Norseaboo, but seriously, giants would've been cool. The male model is already setup to wear most armors in the game.

>> No.27933738


It was. You see the Dragonblight in the Siege of Wyrmrest fight? Most of Azeroth was basicall THAT. Giant outgrowths of horrible pustulant old gods consuming everything.

We're talking Cthulhu-style shit here.

>> No.27933758

Trolls evolved into night elves because of the well, not the naaru. And saving the draenei doesn't make them the progenitors of the race, it makes them pretty cool dudes for letting the homeless goats live in their spaceships.

>> No.27933768

I haven't played WoW but I did play the Warcraft series... Pandaren were savage, huh?

I guess that explains why they were both a savage Creep that wore nothing and a civilized race of awesome alcoholics.

>> No.27933810

Fairly sure that the panda furbolgs from vanilla WC3 were just easter eggs.

And frankly, I wouldn't trust Blizz on making consistent races. That with endless retcons since WC3 and choosing new player races out of pure fan pressure;

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Sorry, forgot my pic

>> No.27933832

>Pandaren were savage, huh?
The Pandaren Brewmaster was one of those neutral heroes you could recruit in WC3FT. They were jokes/easter eggs since at least WC3, though.

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They had a cool world going, but now there's no hope for another Warcraft besides a prequel, what with every single main villain dead and a clusterfuck of people running around with the strength to kill anything else Blizzard makes.

>> No.27933848

Saved a thumbnail, I am a fool. Was really tired last night though.

>> No.27933870

It's not too late for you to delete all those animu pictures you saved.

>> No.27933896

>every single main villain dead

There's still Kil'jaeden and Azshara. I'd say Ner'zhul too, but they confirmed that he "died" for good in that novel.

>> No.27934154

The mercenary heroes were just weird. Some of them seemed like they really were intended as part of the regular player races first and some of them were just straight up special enemies from the single player campaign.

>> No.27934234

>have a draenei fire mage
>list "chewing sofa cushions" as a hobby

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>tfw no blueberry futa spacegoat gf

>> No.27934560

Does having a horse cock mean they aren't tieflings?

>> No.27934622

>secondary nipples


>> No.27935086

I have two extra tiny nipples in line below my left one, it's not that unusual.

>> No.27936549

Although it is highly unlikely, Kel'thuzad may actually be around again at some point as well. We snagged his phylactery in Naxx the first time around, but it never got destroyed. Then who knows what happened after we "killed" him in Dragonblight the second time.

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Ask and you shall receive

>> No.27937622

Is the original one or is the one with the dick the original so to speak

>> No.27937671

You see that magical rune looking tattoo on her crotch beneath the see-through panties? She uses it to summon her dick
/tg/ is the one who gifted me this oh so wonderful knowledge, so I now pass it on to you. Maybe now I can forget such faggotry exists.

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>dem muscles
boner stop, your vile reign over my soul is over

>> No.27937854

Ah thanks for enlightening me, I mainly saw the dick version previously
god /wowg/ was/is a shithole

>> No.27937921

Can't remember if I've seen the dick version or not, my memory for porn is a touch fuzzy.

most of /vg/ is kinda shit, some parts are rather good but they are the exceptions to the rule.

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Actually, it can only float. It sort of teleports between dimensions but has to stay in the atmosphere of wherever it is.

It just sort of flew across the ocean (how fucking fast do those go?) while Nazi elves were slaughtering the children in stasis pods before it crashed into an island.

Now they're the shamans of the Alliance, with an occasional priest or paladin. Plus their racial leader, who knows the plan everything will go according to, is now the only living human king's personal healthcare provider.

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One of the ideas post-WOLK was that Vrykul survivors would join the alliance and become NPCs.

Sadly, Metzen has said some races will not be playable because they never again want a race that can't ride mounts, and doorways are an issue. He said that if there's ever a WoW 2, he wants playable Nerubians since they were his favorite of all the Warcraft races.

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Actually, the Draenei are mutations themselves. Too much fucking Light. The original race looks more like Velen and Archimonde (except not a giant like Archimonde).

>> No.27938204

as far as i know, they are the original ones, and belen, archimonde, and the third one are the ones that changed appereance because of sargeras magic

>> No.27938207
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So where are those high-res character models they promised us?

Supposedly with MoP launch, then shortly after due to a delay, there was going to be high res humans and orcs, then dwarfs and trolls (the new troll bosses in ToT are modified versions of that new model), then tauren and gnomes, then forsaken and night elves, then draenei and blood elves, then finally a touch up of the Cata races.

>> No.27938212

Pre-Titans, no real sentient life existed on Azeroth. It couldn't. It was pure roiling primordial chaos. Like Earth before it cooled and was able to sustain life above the microbial level.

It wasn't until the Titans came along and ordered shit that anything could survive.

>> No.27938257

It's not just "high res models". They're wanting to do complete reworks. New anims, new meshes, new textures.

That means all the gear in the game (and possibly the mounts) has to be tweaked as well.

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Because the Titans had granted the elements of the world life, resulting in Ragnoros Therezane Neptulon and Al'akir, to fight for their amusement.
Then Titans locked them up, banished the elements to their own planes (which Ther and Nep were happy with, but Rag just wants to burn stuff and was pissed an Al'akir is barely sentient since he's so chaotic neutral) and life emerged.
But Titans fucked with the new life and turned the Titan robots fleshy, so the Titans came back and locked them up even tighter and banished the altered races into isolation near or in the prisons of the old gods. They tried killing one, but that worked out badly so they kinda left everything as-is and went to fuck knows where.
But now they know what's going on in Azeroth and are on their way back.

>> No.27938279

I mean *old gods granted the elements of the world life

>> No.27938285

>Worgen can go on all fours as fast as a mount
This was seriously one of the cooler ideas they had.

>> No.27938290

>thighs strong enough to crush elementium

>> No.27938293

*Titans fucked with the new life

Fuck, I'm too tired.

>> No.27938299

Lets not forget how the FT campaign had an entire that went unused in multiplayer. Shame, too, since Nagas were pretty bitchin. Woulda liked to see their other two heroes, too.

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Nah, mang. Light mutates in its own ways. Everything in WoW has a corrupting influence.

>> No.27938310

>This was seriously one of the cooler ideas they had.

Yeah, until you realize you're going to be walking away from your screen potentially bent on all fours with your ass in the air in the midst of your average World of Warcraft player.

The ones that pretend to sodomize horses with broom handles.


You mean the Old Gods fucked with the new life, and turned the Titan-bots fleshy. But I get what you're goin' for.

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>> No.27938327

Wasn't that the original beta version of the tauren mount? Only without goin on all fours, just stampeding really fast with a dust trail effect behind them.

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Garrosh is pretty much a preview on what to expect for the Orc model.

The other races will probably be brought around the same level of detail.

>> No.27938352

Man, I liked Draenei better when they all looked like Akuma. THOSE guys joining the Alliance wouldve actually been neat instead of LOL, SPESSGOATZ

>> No.27938364

Fast as a mount man.
Always Remember
If they try butt fun then you better run

>> No.27938377

Nah, Tauren just ran fast. "Plainstriding". Mounts didn't scale, so you had things like nobody being able to ride the Gnome mounts except Gnomes and such.

Then after both complaints, and the devs never really liking the idea, they made the mount scaling system.

>> No.27938386

It was Plainsrunning, yeah. Only instead of a toggle, like Running Wild, you just had to run forward holding the W key for a few seconds, and it engaged the mount-speed.

...it was ... problematic for things like raids/PvP, so the idea was scrapped. Until someone went ...why didn't we just make it a toggle? 6 years later.

>> No.27938393

I'd have liked both as a cosmetic option.

Just like how I want playable dire trolls, and human mages who don't look like bodybuilders.

>> No.27938439

Not to mention the TFT ones had a way more interesting background, surviving in a world full of bigger, tougher more aggressive natives and also fucking demons just by being sneaky and cunning.

>> No.27938485
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>not liking male draenei the way they are


>> No.27938495

>I'd have liked both as a cosmetic option.
I wouldnt, because then that means the retcon that made eredar and dranei one species and turned badasses like Akuma into faggot spacegoats still exists.
And being at an eternal war with fel orcs. Totally gives em a reason to join the Alliance and kick even more orc ass.

>> No.27938530

>badasses like Akuma

Akama was the ONLY Broken badass. And he still is. The Broken still exist, they've been explained better, and the Ashtongue Deathsworn are still hardcore motherfuckers.

>> No.27938537

It's alluded to in the new lore, post-retcon, that Eredar were just magically and technologically advanced, which drew the attention of Sargeras.

Velen was such an OP boss though, all he had to do was pray, and the universe answered him in the form of the Naaru.

Velen gathered up like-minded Eredar (His ubersmench I guess), loaded them onto crystal ships, and off they fled. They renamed themselves Draenei in honor of this. During the long flight, they were instructed in the teachings of the Light by the Naaru - They were all like "Yeah, seems legit."

After a while, they settled on their new homeworld, which they named Draenor.

Everything was sodomy and gumdrops until Kil'jaeden corrupted Ner'zhul into creating the first Orcish Horde under Blackhand - who then proceeded to slaughter every Draenei on the planet.

Blah blah blah... Demon corrupted Draenor... Velen and whoever he could save steal the Exodar, in the process, leaving behind a lot of Draenei.

This is where the Broken are made. It's their loss of the connection to the Light through the Naaru, and then the corruption by demonic influences that plagued Draenor that created the Broken - and submitting to that corruption, losing ones mind to it, makes Lost Ones.

>> No.27938547


do you really want to go there?

>> No.27938639

>leaving behind a lot of Draenei.
Who were mostly massacred and their bones used to pave the Path of Glory running from Hellfire Citadel to the Stair of Destiny where the portal is situated.

>> No.27938643

Considering they're rebuilding the Black Temple as a place of worship without the help of the regular Draenei, that's pretty cool.

>> No.27938661

>Velen was such an OP boss though, all he had to do was pray, and the universe answered him in the form of the Naaru.

While I agree that Velen's an OP boss, it wasn't just "he prayed". He found Sargeras' offer a little dodgy. The Eredar on Argus were an advanced society of glorious magitech and big burly guys in mage robes like a refrigerator in a dress, and in their possession was the Ata'mal Crystal. It was a magical artefact they'd had since a time out of mind, and Velen and his bros would go commune with it. Velen went to go clear his mind and think on the offer, and being that he's The Prophet, received a vision of what would happen if they took the offer.

Conveniently the crystal belonged to the Naaru and they were there to save the day.

And there goes my dreams of seeing Karabor rebuilt.

>> No.27938710

there is a reason the one time I played one he was named Worf...

>> No.27938822

>have wanted a male draenei paladin since BC cinematic was released
>no friends Alliance side to keep me playing

So I draw them all day to compensate. ;_;

>> No.27939267

>play wow since a couple months
>ghost guild
>almost desert server
>help passingby lower level grubs from being murdered by mobs
>explore where you're not supposed to go
>hunt and collect rare pets
>put togheter bits of lore
>enjoy some awesome landscape view
>don't understand 80% of what happens in WoW threads in any board
I'm not sure why I'm enjoying this so much

>> No.27939314

Once you enter the fetish zone, there is no escape. You can dabble on the edge, but once you cross a certain point you just get sucked in.

>> No.27939362

>>don't understand 80% of what happens in WoW threads in any board
>I'm not sure why I'm enjoying this so much
you're aswering your own question right there

>> No.27939414

I've already ruined two threads today by arguing with Futafaggots on /co/ and /v/

Third times the charm right?

>> No.27939429

You mean, the deeper I go the most I'll miss the air?
that's not very encouraging you know...

>> No.27939528

Most of the wow 'experience' is the raid content

>> No.27939573

...there's no way I can avoid human interaction with that, eh?

>> No.27939580

There is nothing gay about wanting to be fucked in the ass by your boyfriend.

>> No.27939593

Well there is LFR, which uses the group finder. But normal and above level raiding will probably require you to find a group as the people trying to PUG it are probably shitters that can't get a group

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So you do want to do this?
This thread hasn't been all bad besides me having to learn a bunch of random ass theories about why Dranei females have dicks.

Alrighty then. That would depend on your own gender, and either way your a sodomite, and your "boyfriend" may be freak of nature.

>> No.27939694

whats a PUG mate
and I noticed that almost all PVPers I've seen are around level 90, so a 60 like me will be just discarded.
...wait, there's some level matching system somewhere, am I right?

>> No.27939737

PUG is pick up group, sorry. Basically using public channels to group with various players to do content.
PvP is done in level boundaries (10-20, 21-30 and so on) but is terribly balanced below 85, such that warriors can 2 shot you. I believe levelling through PvE before jumping into PvP is quicker but you don't get any currency to purchase pvp gear

>> No.27939775

Those draenei you're thinking of are also known as the "broken".

That suggested that they could have looked exactly the same as the eredar, just being fucked up by failing something.

I'm running all my knowledge from what i gleaned from WoWWiki years ago.

>> No.27939882

huh huh, I see.
and from what I gathered, pvp gear is fundamental at high levels. so I guess that going pvp when around 75 is a good intermediate choiche.
the hard part is the XDDDD people though.
I know they're mostly kids but damn...

>> No.27939936

Yeah pvp gear has stats which reduce and increase the damage you do and take, such that a 85 in the welfare greens from the start of pandaria are gonna get shitstomped by a 90 in full pvp gear

And the hardcore pve community is pretty bad too but just in different ways

>> No.27939950

Why people like Draenei so much, anyway?
chicks apart.

>> No.27939970

And once again, those are all retcons BC introduced to let you play as horsecocked spacegoats. In WC3, the Broken WERE the Draenei and Orcworld was THEIR homeworld first and there was none of that Naaru Space Odyssey bullshit.

>> No.27940034

>pvp gear has stats which reduce and increase the damage you do and take
I think I'm starting to understand how blizzard thinks

>> No.27940151

They look sort of interesting.

I like them, but I accept that is the only real
justification I have for it.

>> No.27940330

The chicks are by and large a major reason. It's generally thought that if you're playing a female draenei it's for fap material.

That and they're like the definition of Lawful Good Paladin, by Azerothian standards.

>> No.27940394

I'll be the first in a long line of people to admit they started fucking shit up when they started chasing their tail when it comes to PvP balance.

Resilience (the PvP stat) and the initial Arena-esports drive really threw a lot of shit out of whack.

>> No.27940395

Gotta got them subscription dollars anon

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Fucking aliens, taking our jobs and homes.

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>tfw you will never be so hardcore that you kill and consume your own gods to get rid of those damned dirty immigrants
Trolls didn't do anything wrong.

>> No.27940707

And then slowly collapsing as a civilization like a flan in a cupboard until the whole of Zandalar Island legit sinks into the sea.

The delicious irony being that the Darkspear, the tribe so small and insignificant they were kicked outta the jungle, is the one left standing.

>> No.27940735

Don' worry mon. Ol Vol'Jin be Warchief of da Horde now, and more Troll tribes be joinin' it as well. Is only a matta ov time before all de tribes be united again unda one banna.

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>based Vol'jin

I speak fa de Horde.

>> No.27940860

Didn't he use to wear pants?

>> No.27940934

Yeah, before they gave him his own model. Now he's rockin' the loincloth.

I hate his fucking ears. They look so retarded.

>> No.27941273

He's got a bitching neck beard now though

>> No.27941303

But can it be a neckbeard when the rest of you is *also* covered in fur?

>> No.27941376

>No major horde race can grow a mustache.

>> No.27941449

>they outright forgot to rig Gallywix to an animation of any kind

>> No.27941483

By dying it bright orange, so that all may revel in the glory that is the neck beard.

>> No.27941485

Draenei tails aren't that long.

>> No.27941512

That's not even *really* Gallywix. He's (according to the art from his story and I -think- his own face carved on the side of his big fucking house, at least) a fat fuck. Like, morbidly obese fat.

I can't be sure if it's a shitty screenshot or if they seriously didn't give him a pose for that scene. He does move in the cinematic, he takes his hat off to Vol'jin.

Troll hair/fur operates on that same weird mechanism as furries and hair.

>> No.27941524


They ought to be

>> No.27941530

Lor'themar looks like he's about to fall backwards.

>> No.27941548

They should be. And not for fetish shit either. They, like the goddamn worgen, look unbalanced without a long enough tail.

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You mean the same way 3e tieflings are just elves with teensy adorable horns and maybe a sexy tail?

>> No.27941673

Why do draenei females have larger horns than the males?

>> No.27941713

they're hornier

>> No.27941748

Males have forehead crests.

>> No.27941749


>> No.27941939

They've never adequately portrayed that aspect of Troll's IMO.

>> No.27942036

They just haven't given him a proper fat model yet. Remember when Sylvanas was a bouncy night elf?

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>> No.27942109

And bigger chin tentacles.

>> No.27944027

2nd edition pic.

>> No.27944723

Oh God, fucking Moon Guard. Just thinking about that unholy server gives me a fucking dozen PTSD flashbacks.

>> No.27944954

Oh man, I completely forgot that dude even existed, since he did a whole lot of nothing ever since he was introduced. Seriously, why is the Belf leader so useless compared to everyone else?

>> No.27945046

The lore in WoW has largely jumped the shark, repeatedly, but I'll give them this:

I have stolen WoW Trolls for most any D&D game I run, also Worgen have made some appearances.

I also rather like the aesthetics of Dranei.

>> No.27945119

>I also rather like the aesthetics of Dranei.
Makes sense. Legacy of Kain was a damned good game.

>> No.27946134

>I have stolen WoW Trolls for most any D&D game I run
I do the same. Of course I also include them alongside normal DnD Trolls and usually say that WoW trolls are the smart ones who have been known to raise DnD Trolls to be beasts of war. So along with their voodoo and regeneration Troll warbands usually end up being one of the more difficult things to permanently get rid of.

>> No.27946234
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Key note: Gallywix is supposed to be found in Gallywix's Pleasure Palace.
NPC dialogue, as well as datamined dialogue for him, indicates he's there.

But no fatty model was completed, so he wasn't added. Just like female fel orcs, female broken, incubi, etc.

>> No.27946239

WoW's trolls are pretty much the best. Voodoo and regeneration are just awesome as hell

>> No.27946247
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Pandaren can.
In all fairness, human mustaches look like shit.

But yeah, NElfs, dwarfs, draenei, and gnomes get badass lipfur.

>> No.27946257

I liked em better before the voodoo, personally. Voodoo is cool too, but Forest Trolls best trolls.
>wachu wanna keel?

>> No.27946280
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He's a regent for a royal bloodline that's died out.
He controls his people through drugs and magic mind control.

If you see him do something, you know shit has hit the fan.
Oh, and Sylvanas threatens to destroy the elf race and make them forsaken like her constantly if he doesn't do what she says. That may change soon, since he's got his knife hovering over her exposed spine right now and the Argent Crusade/Knights of the Ebon Blade are just LOOKING for an excuse to nail her. God knows there's enough Blood Elf paladins and death knights.

>> No.27946285

I don't remember shit bout the forest trolls aside from killing them when my first belf pally was leveling up

>> No.27946330

They were the original trolls to join the original Horde in WC2.

I have noticed a trend where it seems that the only people who actually like WoW lore are the ones who never played the older games.

>> No.27946347
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My Skyrim race of choice.

>> No.27946360
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'chu want axe?

>> No.27946396
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Dude, I fucking grew up on Warcraft 2. Then spent my teenage years in Warcraft 3 replaying over and over alongside Star Wars Galactic Battlegrounds and Age of Empires 2.

I like WoW. I just dislike the constant catering to the raiders. Dropping planned questlines to add a few more sparkles to raid areas and such.

I still want Azjol Nerub as a zone dammit. Plus, fuck the haters. Neptulon raid would have been glorious.

>> No.27946403

I never was one for those sort of games, but I've touched on some parts of the story of those games.

It's just been forever since I've really touched the warcraft franchise.

>> No.27946449

>that femtroll booty

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Shit, never realized she had glasses before.

Fuck the alliance spec ops troops were good.
RIP Socks and Gizmo.
You come get da voodoo?

>> No.27946487

Yes ma'm.

>> No.27946509
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I like how WoW handwaved the oddness of trolls suddenly becoming druids with chat dialogue.
>Ya should have seen deir faces when we showed up to da Cenarion Circle mon!
>I think da troll Loa could still beat da Loa of Elves.
>We used to follow da troll wit da biggest tusks, but den we got a look of Malfurion's horns.

>> No.27946527
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>> No.27946531

Hey, you know what they say
More Cushion for the pushin'

>> No.27946539
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More meat for the eating?

>> No.27946540

I have a thing for mohawks on girls.

Not sure why

>> No.27946568
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Just did a bit of research.
According to Blizz, new character models are only a third completed and they plan to launch them all at once.

Indeed, two of the four troll council fight are based on the new troll models. So these two herald the trolls to come.

Punk rock chicks ftw?

>> No.27946571


Plus the whole 'bunch of darkspears Zalazane drove out got taught by the equivalent of the jungle troll trickster-god how to shapeshift and shit'.

That's the backstory for my Troll Druid (my main since cata hit), she was a mage before she got driven out with that group, picked up the druidic arts, found herself drawn to Balance.

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>> No.27946594
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There's also this guy...

>> No.27946595

ehh more tribal chicks, I mean look at >>27946582

>> No.27946606
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...and this guy.
Maybe Blizz will finally give multiple options for character bodies?

>> No.27946635
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Only got mine to 63 when my horde guild fell apart and I jumped ship back to alliance with friends.
I usually make my background as I level, and so far I had my troll druid as being a criminal in the eyes of the forsaken, and that she'd talk like a female Jamaican version of Megatron from Beastwars.

>> No.27946659
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THIS is what a troll should look like.
I'm very suprised that there's never been much vore Warcraft troll art or fanfics.

In fact, the only thing I've read that came close was a Fred K.T. Andersson comic where a troll captures an elf, but after basting him decides he's a better fuck instead.
Also footjobs.

>> No.27946681

>that spoiler\
C'mon mon

>> No.27946702
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Would ya a troll, /tg/?

>> No.27946717

>TWF no one to roll play Death Knight Scarlet Crusaders with

>> No.27946722

That part made me feel warm inside.

>> No.27946735

Scarlet Crusade has been done to death by most RPers sadly.
Most people are cool to have one around, since it's a nice departure from classical paladin or death knight, but nobody wants to be one.

>> No.27946745

I just want to carry on my crusade, even in death, to destroy undead. ;_;

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Forgot my pic.

>> No.27946771

I doubt it. Much more work tweaking gear models to make it work.

They've just always had multiple Troll body types for NPCs.

>> No.27946774
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Let's face it: they aren't social people.
Your ghoul is probably more reliable than your footmen ever were, and provides more interesting conversation.

Now what you need is a warlock. They're great to have around, they can sense magic so you can use them as hunting dogs. You don't have to worry about teamkilling their hellish minions, and when worse comes to worse they can return you to your shattered husk with lots of neat new powers!

>> No.27946795

They don't really tweak gear too much. If you play around on the model viewer, some monsters (especially the WOLK skeletons and dire troll models) let you equip gear on them.

The way the devs design gear is so it can stretch around a model. They only need to tweak a few generic texture-less models to fit the race, then they've got hundreds of gears done. That's why Blizz increasingly just retextures, or simply adds a few details to a generic base.

>> No.27946797

Ah, a cheeky Warlock companion would complement my AAAAAAANGST nicely.

>> No.27946805
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Here's your warlock.
Beware: you'll never be first to loot and all rolls are need.

>> No.27946837
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What Warcraft dropped plot or no longer relevant group/race would you like to see picked back up the most?

>> No.27946849

Alleria Windrunner.

>> No.27946860

The problem with warlocks is if they bring a succubus with them, she is going to prioritize the warlock over whatever the hell you want to do.
I wouldn't mind any of the species the alliance/horde kicked around (gnolls, centaurs, quillboar, harpies) gaining some importance.

>> No.27946864

Stop, boner. It's the size of a child. And evil.
Boner, stop.

>> No.27946877

Is the warcraft tabletop rpg any good?

I've never met anyone who's actually played it before

>> No.27946882

>you will never have a threesome with a goblin warlock and her succubus

>> No.27946888

>and her succubus
>not a goblin
what are you, a heretic

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Blizz says they're holding onto that card, as well as Danath returning to rebuild Stromgarde, as well as Turalyon and Alleria's adult son, for future content.

So Burning Crusade 2: Argus.

>> No.27946902

Would love to see someone come by and unite the Centaur and Quillboar tribes against the Horde.

>> No.27946910


Nice trips btw.

>> No.27946911

Can I mention how much it pisses me the fuck off that every warlock is:
1. A blood elf or male Forsaken
2. Wearing that fucking Corruptor set
3. The villain of a painfully shitty plotline
4. The type to gloat in long paragraph /yells as a result of #3
5. Terrible at RP

>> No.27946913


Of ones that haven't already been mentioned: The Koltira/Thassarian plot from cata-upgrade western plauguelands.

In fact, Sylvanus' whole I'M A BIG EVIL BITCH plot.

>> No.27946915

Warcraft 4.

>> No.27946918

>The Koltira/Thassarian plot
that's a funny way of spelling "sexual tension"

>> No.27946924
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>Not a goblin and a gnome having competitive hatesex with you.

>> No.27946933

I'm tempted to roll a warlock who was only in it for the sick fires and the succubus minion.

>> No.27946934

Only if I can take this opportunity to bitch about how the only way to play Horde without being a Hunchback is to be an Elf or a grill.

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>> No.27946936

They're going to turn Sylvanas into a raid boss eventually. Possibly saving it for whenever they get around to bringing Alleria back.

>> No.27946961

I have a goblin girl warlock. She's pudgy, and pretty typical goblin as far as being a greedy capitalist bitch goes. She got into the whole warlock thing because having a bunch of unpaid slaves who don't need rest or even fair treatment is great for a business or when you don't feel like getting up off the couch.

Also her wrathguard goes by Big Tony.

>> No.27946970

I forget how many of Sylvanas' sisters are still kicking in one way or another. Getting one of them to talk some sense into her is probably the only way to save her from going the way of Garrosh.

>> No.27946975

You'd think after Varimathras they wouldn't need another black eye.

>> No.27946977
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"Disaster waiting to happen" human warlock straight from the Slaughtered Lamb in the blue corrupter transmog here. Used by whoever is leading the RP session to advance the plot via "I know that 'cause I'mma wizard" exposition before hiding behind something and shooting shadow bolts while the "main characters" do their work.

How much do I piss you off.

>> No.27946990


Alleria's missing and Vereesa hates her sister with a burning unholy passion, because her entire characterization is HATE THE HORDE and MARRIED TO A MARY SUE.

>> No.27946991

I hope we get to redeem her. I'm getting tired of killing bad guys that would make for great redemption plots (Illidan/Staghelm with Malfurion/Tyrande, Arthas with Jaina, Garrosh with Thrall/the memory of Grom).
Would be nice to see Sylvanas redeemed with Alleria/Vereesa.

>> No.27946992

Makes me love my Dwarf Warlock.

>> No.27947004
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i like you

>> No.27947015

>I hope we get to redeem her with my dick

>> No.27947019

I thought Rhonin was died.

>> No.27947028

So here's rooting for Alleria to do her sisterly duty.
Please tell me she's the sort to dress up the succubus in a maid outfit.

>> No.27947032

I bet that's not even him. I bet it's a shitty body double that he hired on the cheap, but everyone thinks it's him because he went so far as to carve his real face onto a goddamn mountain but he looks nothing like it so you'd think it was a body double, but everyone thinks it's actually him.


>> No.27947035


Yes, and since then that bit of her characterization has been replaced with I AM ANGRY THAT THE HORDE KILLED MY MARY SUE HUSBAND.

>> No.27947038

She's dead, anon.
But still, those hips - HNNG

>> No.27947039
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Wishful thinking. Knaak is the Matt Ward of Blizzard.

>> No.27947047
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She became a bitch for awhile and tried to wipe out the remnants of Lordaeron for being such fuckups.
But then Vereesa and Rhonin's twin kids got kidnapped and forsaken killed the captors. They were brought to Sylvanas, who suddenly became less evil and sent them back to her sister.
Then she became pretty evil again, then a blood elf PC brought her a locket from her time among the living and she threw a thunderous fit, but then mellowed out and sang a song from the elves but with new lyrics about the modern day.
Then she became super obsessed with finally killing Arthas and started fucking up by not paying attention to the super powerful minions she spent the last four years paying attention to because she KNEW they were planning on backstabbing her. She blamed it on demons pretty well.
Then, more evil than ever since she's looking at the lich king model for rulership but with improvements. She's also mind controlling dissidents within her own ranks, and turning more undead children than ever into abomination guards.
But on the plus side, she really likes her Val'kyr.

>> No.27947049


Nah, he died trying and failing to keep Garrosh from nuking Theramore.

>> No.27947057

You gotta look respectable. Ain't nobody got time for that "soul-sucking abomination born of mortal desires" shit. This is a respectable business.

>> No.27947074

I know it wasn't really in-game, but if you read the comics/novels the Varian Wrynn plot might sate your need.

>> No.27947076
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I'm tellin you mane
that big faggot Knaak isn't gonna let it fly

>> No.27947085
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>We didn't kill Gallywix
>Boss Mida doesn't become the goblin racial leader, to hang off Vol'jin's shoulder and constantly throw out creepy attempts at flirting

>> No.27947087

So there's hope for a happyish ending for our banshee queen?

>> No.27947092
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>implying Her Tallest needs anyone's shoulder

>> No.27947103

I've stopped just short of sticking Big Tony the Wrathguard in a suit.

I'm still considering it.

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Knaak doesn't trump Metzen, and Metzen swallowed his pride and made his favorite MS non-canon after the fan reaction to a mage/paladin/druid/shaman/rogue/monk quarter-orc quarter-draenei half human new Guardian of the Order of Tirisfal and possible inheritor to the title of leader of the Hands of Argus (yeah, that was legit for awhile).

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I liked those first 30 seconds where Blizzard made the Night Elves a bunch of psychotic forest Amazons who actually scared the hardest orc warriors in the Horde.

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I think his lap is more on her level.
Once he's restrained of course, the High Boss doesn't need someone distracting her while she blows off some steam.

>> No.27947126

>not being a demon-hating warlock, using demons to kill other demons, and sometimes even torture / kill your own demon yourself.

>> No.27947132

As someone who likes to play trolls, I've found it hard to take nelves seriously after learning that they were pretty much trolls who spent too much time fucking in the magic titan water.

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Oh, right.

That happened.

>> No.27947136

Oh jesus.
That fucking kid really ruined a good plotline, you know? Garona Halforcen was legit.

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Not to mention Grom got a boner for them.

Might be why the Warsong under Garrosh went so ballistic on the Night Elves, what with expending their entire fleet in a doomed blockade of the giant self-sufficient tree. He's mad his dad preferred the violet to his brown mammy.

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>> No.27947146

Mutating is the thing Trolls do, though. Does it surprise you that there's a magical troll sub-species?

>> No.27947165

BRB, gonna go watch all of the old Warcraft cinematics.
They were actually really good. Warcraft movie when?

>> No.27947170

See, trolls are the only credence all those people have to wanting a race recolor to be its own playable thing (dragonmaw orcs, quel'dorei etc.) because they're all really fucking diverse.

>> No.27947199
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Eh, Sandfury fucked in the sand, Frostmanes fucked in the snow, Amani used animal skin condoms, Gurubashi used poison for lube, Hakkari prayed while fucking, Drakkari killed their spouses after sex, Night Elves fucked in magic water, and the ShadowTooth wife-swapped with Night Elves. Zandalari probably just used artificial insemination for their genetically pure line of troll-themed trolls, and Darkspear are the Captain Kirk of the troll tribes.

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It's in production now.

Alliance perspective, but horde isn't the flat out villains.
Bruce Campbell will be in it by his own request. Sadly, so will Johnny Depp according to rumors.

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So post-Garrosh, how's the racial tensions going to be?
I think because of neutral organizations the only trouble groups would be dwarfs (dwarfish stubbornness only though), forsaken, humansVSorcs, and possibly some deforestation of Ashenvale still going on.

>> No.27947242

I hated how little she got to do against Arthas in WotLK. A few towns in the early zones, one actual attack that doesn't count because it was part of a fucking coup against her, and then nothing.

Didn't even get to TRY shanking him in the final fight.

>> No.27947250

It's kind of annoying how hard the writers are pushing the idea of the forsaken being flat-out evil now.

Non-evil undead are just way too rare

>> No.27947258

Wait, who's leading the Horde now that Garrosh is gone?

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>Johnny Depp

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>> No.27947306
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She was there in the 3 Icecrown instances.
She sent the players to go slaughter Cultists while she gathered her forces, then sent the players to start a slave revolt while she picked off Scourge leaders in the area, then finally got Arthas down to 67% (which takes a fair number of players and a LOT of tries to do back when) during which she learned how to beat him. Which may also count as her manipulating a major alliance figure into doing her dirty work and keeping the Scourge under wraps while she converts them one by one.

There's plenty of Forsaken in the Argent Crusade, noteable are a mad scientist and of course Leonid fucking Bartholomew who's leading the AC under Tirion.

Not to mention all forsaken characters created after Cata are former alliance, Scarlet Crusade, and Gilnean humans, many of whom are dissenters and looking for the chance to backstab the majority of the evil forsaken first chance they get. Plus the faction of non-evil forsaken who want to live like they did in Lordaeron, starting with converting the abominations back into children. Possible leader is Arthas's sister Calia Menethil, who was a forsaken Sylvanas had locked up and was rescued by a paladin and one of her old servants (a forsaken).

>> No.27947314

Da Dark Spear, mon.

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>mfw every blood elf roleplayer is a noble or a master assassin

>> No.27947328

Oh good, it's not Thrall

I would have preferred it to be Lor'Themar, but Lor'Themar will never get anything nice

>> No.27947334

>I roleplay the Blood Elf equivalent of a meth addict

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I was going to be a Blood Elf bandit bluffing ignorant orcs and tauren into thinking he was legit while trying desperately to learn magic to fake being a paladin on the side. With the help of a troll priest who thought having a blood elf in his debt would be useful in the future.

My troll bailed on me, so I quit the character. Ended up deleting him to make room for a worgen hunter I also didn't play, who was deleted for a dwarf priestess.

>> No.27947345

Getting shit on is kind of important to his (Lor'Themar's) character.

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>Remember Sylvanas, when you talked to me condescendingly so many times? It sounded just. Like. This.
>Kill her.

>> No.27947374


Wait, where are you getting that stuff about Calia Menethil?

>> No.27947381
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>mfw every forsaken is either an "evil doctor" stereotype sadist because god forbid they be something besides apothecaries or a master assassin

>> No.27947412

I rp'd a female human warlock who wore the comparatively understated D2 set when she wanted to be showy, the pvp recoloured T4 for actual combat and something that didn't scream "I AM TEH DARKNESS, PLEASE KILL ME" when she wasn't doing one of those things.

I was part of a cult-style guild on Defias Brotherhood which understood that we'd never be the winners of any RP plot involving heroes, and instead sought to be satisfying villains.

It died about halfway into cataclysm, and went downhill after a particularly good leader left.

I had some enjoyable RP, my main gripe with wow RP was how slow it felt compared to tabletop and live.

>> No.27947426

Your main gripe with WoW RP isn't how terrible it gets?

Either way that's p. awesome. Nothing wrong with villain locks, it just seems like people figure being a warlock will do the legwork for them.

>> No.27947428

To be fair, the forsaken have yet to prove that they're capable of kindness towards anyone but themselves, and in fact have done everything to prove themselves to be the Scourge 2.0

>> No.27947433
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There was a short story during vanilla.
Whether it was canon or not is up to debate. But a forsaken dupes a paladin into blitzing into the Undercity through a secret entrance. He becomes a distraction for the forsaken, who enters a hidden cell in the dungeons. He addresses the occupant as "Lady Calia" and the story ends.

It's from the same batch of lore that came out with the WoW tabletop RPG books which were all non canon (including such things as trolls in Panderia, Jaina having a half-elf half-sister who made herself queen of Kul Tiras and uses Jaina as a scapegoat to maintain rule (which Jaina knows about, it's a giant conspiracy), Vol'jin trying to kill Jaina CONSTANTLY, goblins enslaving an old god, Nerubians having a secret kingdom where the living ones still are and befriending mortal races (even joining the horde and alliance) to fight the war against the undead ones, giants living in Northrend, an Old God under the Undercity somewhere, etc.).

Most of those things became non-canon, but others have found their way into the fluff that came out later in various places.

>> No.27947439

Well, yeah, being a sociopath is one thing. But every one of them is a scalpel-twirling maniac with no sense of subtlety or sensibility, and the evil nazi doctor thing stopped being cool after the 1970s.

>> No.27947443

If I remember correctly, though, the prisoner WASN'T undead.
She was just a prisoner.

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There's been individual forsaken who have, from questgivers to the innkeeper in Brill who got a comic in Warcraft Legends (can't post it, only volume I don't have and can't find a download for) who actually has more humanity as a forsaken than she did as a human in the Scarlet Crusade.

>> No.27947472
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So, race tiers?
Dwarf, gnome, goblin, troll, Pandaren
Worgen, Draenei,
Orc, Night Elf, Tauren
Forsaken, Human
Blood Elf

>> No.27947503

I'm with you on god tier, but I'd swap out Worgen for Orc and Forsaken for Night Elf.

>> No.27947531
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post-cata Worgen are shit.

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I think where WoW started going wrong is when they changed the questing dynamic.
Horde was trying to survive a world that wanted to beat them down and crush them into the dry dust. Either because they've been downtrodden their entire existence, or because they've suffered a HUGE fall from grace. The play experience was forging bonds, mutual survival, and the like.
Alliance was about rebuilding, about reclaiming a lost glory and about a brighter future. About proving you're the motherfucking best.

PvP was just PvP, plot was "well, sometimes there's border incidents".

But having the same questing experience for the most part kinda fucked that. Now it became about the new groups and everyone getting into the neutral faction's story 90% (10% for the starting areas, which begin with your faction and the small sub plot in the mid level zone).

Then Worgen got the vibe of a horde race while goblins feel like an alliance race. Couple that with shoe-horned in faction conflict as the main plot that STILL disappears when shit hits the fan.

Welcome to post-BC draenei and for the most part Blood Elves (barring Battered Hilt). Goblins at least get the honor of being ever-present and having the fun quests.

>> No.27947562
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You know, I tend to hate forsaken due to not caring for their fluff while also still being bitter after all the forsaken rogues back when I bothered on a PvP server, but then you see one in a neutral zone with their helmet disabled. With a really cool face, and on the same quest you're on.

>> No.27947591

How is that teir-list set up?

Quality of npcs? Quality of players? Questlines? Appearance?

>> No.27947599

The story needed to develop.
You can't be reclaiming past glory forever, you can't be just getting by forever. That's stagnant.
Blizzard story moves at a glacial pace, but it does move - and it needs to.

Except for Gnomes. Fucking Gnomes, never do anything.

>> No.27947610

> Goblins at least get the honor of being ever-present and having the fun quests.

Every Goblin quest:
>Take the Explodomatron 9000 and test it
It will explode a lot
>OK, go get me ten things from nearby mobs to fix this
You get them
>OK, I fixed it, now take the explodomatron 9001 and explode me ten goats
you explode goats in a hillarious fashion
>Good job. Have this shitty piece of questing green stuff as a reward. Bet you thought you'd get an explodomatron trinket, didn't you. Ha!

>> No.27947617

Gnomes never do anything because no one likes gnomes, but no one likes gnomes because gnomes never do anything.

Sucks to be gnomes

>> No.27947630


I like gnomes.

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How much I like them.
Just flat out and partial.

>> No.27947645

I do too, it's way it's annoying that gnomes never do anything

>> No.27947650

I was talking about their design more than the neglected plot. Males were prettied up and the females look like chihuahuas.

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Same as gnomes. But you guys still get more exposure, gnomes are literally only around when they used too many magical explanations for things.

Hell, they don't even make up a significant group on the sky aircraft carriers, there's usually one or two but that's it. Apparently they get to build the damn things and that's it.

>> No.27947673

Sucks to be you. Be a Troll - same displaced homeland angst backstory, but they actually do something about it.
I like Worgen, but they have the Gnome problem, too.

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I like the males (I'd argue "prettied up" translates to having a higher res model), but the females needed much less dimorphic.

I still want "ugly" troll females. Gangly and such.
My inner Kirk demands it.

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Gnomes technically retook MOST of Gnomeragan. Thermaplugg had his lower body cut off, and he was put into a new robot body where he fled with his remaining loyalists into the trogg caves.

But since Gnomer has to remain an instance, it's not reflected. That being said you can notice a lot more on the surface now that indicates they've retaken it. In addition, Tinker Town is back to being just an embassy and an entrance to the Deeprun Tram in the fluff (according to Mekkatorque's short story, he built the prototype out of pie dishes).

>> No.27947731

Perhaps Mekkatorque and Lo'Themar could meet up and plan some sort of cold war treaty to stop everyone else from ruining everything forever because no one ever pays attention to either of them.

>> No.27947783
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Not as long as the Blood Elves are enslaving gnomes.
But it's in the fluff that nobody particularly dislikes gnomes, since their only times in the diplomatic arena are usually providing things to other races.

Also, the only grudges against Draenei are reflective of fear of them and their strange customs rather than anything the race has done or is doing. But the Draenei have enough of a grudge against the Orcs it'd take an act of Velen to get them in on the treaty. Plus, young Wrynn is a bro and is totally loved by them until Garrosh flipped the fuck out he almost brokered a trade deal with the horde of trees from the alliance for exotic furs and copper from the horde (as well as no more Ashenvale logging because of said sent trees).
As for Trolls, they mistrust humans and anything tainted. But they dislike forsaken as much (or more) as the humans so fuck it.

Draenei and gnomes meeting with trolls and blood elves, with Anduin being there because that's awesome.
Maybe involve Wrathion, say he manipulated the meeting to happen and that way players can kill somebody at his request while the meeting happens?

>> No.27947828

I can imagine that being a vaguely late game, but not end-level game, quest line only available to blood elves, gnomes, draenei and trolls, involving keeping the whole thing a secret from the other races so they don't fuck it up.

>> No.27947868

Meanwhile, the other races experience a quest line consisting of fighting each other before some mysterious events happen that prevent them from reaching a powerful mystical object made by the Titans.
Which was caused by the gnome/draenei/troll/blood elf players.

WoW promised they'd return class and race quests. I'm still waiting.

>> No.27947896

I miss my Druid flight quest.

>> No.27947930

I never got the raven mount, that still makes me sad

>> No.27947931
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Warlock mount too.
Nothing like spending almost a thousand gold (back when that meant something) to open a portal to Xoroth, the home of the Dreadlords, to steal a horse straight from the lord of the Burning Legion's cavalry, not even knowing if you can close it or not in the end, just standing there casting while your party (who thought they were getting a free run) has to fight swarms of demons before a huge fucking boss demon steps out of the portal and swears he'll drag you all to the Twisting Nether for eternal torture...while you just continue standing there casting.

Then fight the demon horse, get the mount, and there's 4 people who either fucking love you or will never talk to you again.

>> No.27947941
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You can still get it. Still a rare drop though, but now that almost any class can 2 hit the boss it's much easier.
Shaman totems. Learning about the spirits, traveling the world and learning lessons from them.
Now you pay 1 silver and FWOOSH you have the spell.

>> No.27947949

Wouldn't Tauren fit better than Trolls?

>> No.27947967

I wonder if they'll ever give locks/pallys their own flying mounts.

>> No.27947990

It took almost 10 years to get green fire.

>> No.27948000

I miss Shaman tanking, even if it was shit.

>> No.27948232
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It's funny, I stopped playing near the end of BC. My friends decided to try the game again during Cata on a private server. I thought they striped everything out because they sucked at coding.

Turns out, Blizzard just took the soul out of the game. I noticed they reorganized the spells to make it easier to solo your way to max level as well. All your buffs come late game now in place of your heavy hitting spells. I can't believe how many max level hunters I see who were never even aware of how to name their pets. It's really sad.

Anyway, I'll stop turning this into a nostalgia thread.

>> No.27948274

I just hate how little customization is available now.

Although apparently, liking techtrees makes me weird

>> No.27948342
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You guys weren't there for Wrath.
The whole system came tumbling down in Wrath, gearscore mattered more than your playstyle, even if your gear was shit and just equipped for the higher rating according to some bullshit website.

There was flat out "you must be this tree or you will fail" things. There was no good deep talent trees, everything was min/maxed to hell and back. PvP was unbearably balanced towards only a few classes in small battles, only a few others in the largest, and finally Wintergrasp was dominated entirely by one faction in most servers (sadly, because it's still my favorite of the battlegrounds).

>> No.27948343

I'd say it's the opposite.
Old talent trees had very little choice in them, as far as viability went. And they were boring as fuck, to boot, with +X Stat being the main type.
I do miss the variable damage types, though. I liked hunting for elemental resist armor pieces, and minmaxing the shit out of it to get the resist I needed for a boss while maintaining my basic tank stats.

>> No.27948360

It says a lot about how wow has changed that, even though I quit during wotlk saying I'd come back if we got green fire, I tried my free week of Pandaria and said "No. Nuh-uh. Not coming back. Not even green fire could make me want this game now."

And all of my accumulated knowledge of the old world is gone. I used to be able to do guided tours of the old instances people didn't do any more - BRD, Mara, DM, Strath, Scholo. I knew secret places to hang out, fun quest lines nobody knew about because they were a part of high end vanilla progression. I earned my dreadsteed like I earned my demons. I still have the Enchanted Gold Bloodrobe in my bank, I think.

All of that stuff is gone. Sure, the Cata world is easier to quest through, but it's not the same WoW I knew and loved, it's not the WoW that got me through a rough patch in my life. It's probably a more fun game for casual players, and they have a lot of them. I probably don't have time to play it like I used to, either.

but it's changed, and I can't go back to that crystalised joy from the past.

It's not just the lack of customisationg, it's the cutting out of so much other stuff. Where's Sentry Totem?

Why does my warlock have so few dots now? I juggled five DoTs on Heigan the Unclean, and now I can't be trusted to have Curse of Agony or Immolate if I'm demonology specced? Losing all the dots hurts.

>> No.27948374

At first, Wrath was great. They seemed to have tightened things up, Naxx was easy but enjoyable and Ulduar felt fucking brilliant.

The point where item level stupidity really took off, when gearscore became a big thing, and when everyone and their dog burned out?

>The Round Room

Fucking TotC. Have five encounters, no trash, no mental downtime from bosses, hardmode is not interesting, just bigger numbers, and you get to do it FOUR times a week. Fuck.

>> No.27948381

>You will never again be able to AFK during a raid because your only job is to Innervate the priest
Being a Druid sucks now. I'm expect to, like, do shit.

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Yeah, the Cata changes weren't for the better.
They bit off far more than they could chew, and dropped so much due to time restraints.

That being said, once you actually get to MoP it's the best it's been since vanilla. It's actually fun again.

>> No.27948463

>implying you can keep Hand of Gul'dan up competently

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Same here. I rolled a Druid in Vanilla expecting to be a hybrid like the game description listed, or even a specialist like in some forms of D&D.

Boy, was I wrong. The class was not even half-finished. Fucking auto attack in caster form resto-specced did more DPS than a feral-specced cat form. Druids were so rare that merely having one at level 60 guaranteed you a slot in a progressive raiding guild. Meanwhile, Rogues constituted more than 40% of some servers....

You couldn't pay me to go back to Vanilla.

MoP is the most fun I've had since since the Burning Crusade. In some parts, it more. I'm saying this as someone who's been playing since the Vanilla Beta.

>> No.27948525

Vanilla/BC hybrid was an exercise in sado-masochism.

>> No.27948530

Well now I want to play WoW again...

THANKS /tg/, I didn't need this money/time sink in my life and now my nostalgia for vanilla and BC is going to make me resubscribe to this shit

>> No.27948557

Oh please, I am already logging in to start anew on a new server

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Just grit your teeth and fight through Cataclysm best you can.

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I'm convinced the only people who had more legitimate fun in Vanilla/early BC were the pure classes and only when they played with an Everquest mindset. AKA "the Holy Trinity". Priests were THE healers, and drama queens to boot. Warriors were the only real hybrids, most two handers were made explicitly for them. And each of the pure DPS had a nice length of time where they were blatantly OP with the loot itemization to support it. Oh, and Rogues were virtual PvP gods. I'm convinced their current plights and population woes is penance for being the Eddie of Warcraft for so long.

Oh, and having a DPS alt just for farming and gold production was a requirement for healers. small wonder they burned out so fast.

To be fair, playing Warcraft usually means you'll save money on average. You won't buy many other games to play when your playing WoW.

You can buy high ilevel greens from vendors in Hyjal now as soon as you hit 80 so you can jump right into dungeons to power through cata content faster.

>> No.27948639

Ugh, I'd rather run through Vash'jir then Uldum than play Cata instances again.

>> No.27948645

I've not picked a server yet, kinda want to rp, but I"m not sure.
Vash'jir was that ocean place right?

I fucking hated that place, I REALLY fucking hate deep/open water

>> No.27948705

Funny, everyone hated that zone it seems, but after Darkshire it's my favorite in the game, followed by Stranglethorn Vale.

>> No.27948756

STV was cool before it blew the fuck up.

Really most of the zones that gone blown the fuck up were better off not blown the fuck up. Desolace is the only improvement i can recall off the top of my head

>> No.27948790

I miss the Salt Flats.

>> No.27948803

I've mained a goddamn Druid since BC and I hated Vash'jir.
Even in aquatic form it's a shithole.

Also, go with either Normal-PvP or Rp-PvP. Words cannot express how much I regretted starting on a PvE server - there comes a time when you just you had some open-world PvP to look forward to.

>> No.27948808

that's a funny way of saying "getting griefed while questing"

>> No.27948875

Cata made all the zones better as questing became far more efficient.

>> No.27948970

Better is subjective.
I agree with you, but some people feel that painfully grinding on wildlife was a good thing.

>> No.27949011

I was talking bout visually, and cata still loses points for fucking Vash'jir

>> No.27949072

That zone on a pvp server on release day was hell. Druids with the superswim buff and instashift to aquatic form could just moonfire you to death while being untouchable, and several major quest/phase chokepoints meant whichever faction got a stranglehold on them first could just halt progression for the other faction as a pile of them sat in certain caves instagibbing whoever came in.

Fuck that zone. Cata got *too* heavy on the quest paths. The zone plotlines are nice, but I prefer my MMO story to be a bit more passive except for occasional big plot quest, in the way The Secret World does it.

In fact, I pretty much prefer everything the way TSW does it. I'd pay good money for a TSW-style game with the wow lore and warlock flavour I love, but when TSW came out my blood/elemental chain-afflict-proc build made me feel more like a life-sapping spellcaster than wow has done recently.

>> No.27949101

TSW quest's are much more suitable for a single player game in many respects.

Fuck those puzzles, but bless the devs for giving us an in game search engine

How are warlocks doin anyways? I've been meaning to play one and the lore on succubi is appealing.

>> No.27949148

TSW's puzzles are what sold me on it. The point in the first investigation mission where I realised I wasn't looking for an in-game interactable bible to click on to tell me the correct codes, but was actually expected to open or google up a bible, work out the right passage and to interpret it for the code?

I logged out, bought the game and logged back in.

The ingame search engine is a great idea, given that you're meant to be working this shit out from clues and The Internet, but you need to put "-TSW -walkthrough" in all your searches to avoid the top result being the walkthroughs people have put online.

And yeah, TSW's PvE content is pretty much single player outside of dungeons, there aren't any group quests. Then again, the same is true of WoW from cata onwards - I don't recall cata having any quests that required me to group up to finish them, unlike some of the end-of-chain things in WotLK (like the Enki'lah quest chain). Outside of dungeons, MMOs have largely moved to content being soloable by the average player.

>> No.27949177

Yeah, play the Secret World™ a fun action packed adventure from EA™!

>> No.27949181

Playing an Arms Warrior in vanilla and BC was suffering.

>> No.27949258

"Hey bro. We need you to do two things. One, level a priest alt specifically for Instructor, and two, start collecting warrior T3 and be prepared to respec prot for the four horsemen.

>> No.27949369

Fuck, I remember that comic. It was good at first, but holy shit did it become retarded when that kid got the spotlight.

>> No.27949414

Wait, The Shitty Character Not To Be Named made non-canon? There is only one mage-paladin-shaman orc-draenei-human son of garona and medivh, guardian of tirisfal and hand of argus, personal slayer of cho'gall and c'thun that I know of... and he's worse than all the other lore changes put together.

if he's actually been erased from canon, I am pleased beyond belief.

>> No.27949420

>MMOs have largely moved to content being soloable by the average player.
Which is interesting, because all of the console games I once loved move to multiplayer only with a cursory, forced single-player.
And I fucking hate that.

>> No.27949431

People who want single player didn't just go away, they dynamics simply shifted.

>> No.27949817

I love how FFXIV:ARR rewards solo players for working together to clear the open world fights called FATEs.

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