/tg/ - Traditional Games

Dumpin' & bumpin'.

>>27181239
Ah, the old CawBlade decks. Screeching Silcaw and Trepanation Blade made for a really stale Standard environment.

>>27181276

>>27181239

>>27181344

>"pillow fort" archetype
>what is actually happening

This makes me laugh every time. Dunno why.

>>27181365
More like "No fun allowed"

>>27181387

>No sweat, Clyde.

For some reason, it gets me every time.

>>27181409
>Drac O.G.

>>27181344

>>27181407
more like "pay 24 mana to attack with your 1 guy" AWESOME, amirite?

>>27181434

(gatherer comment)
The funnier thing to me isn't that he didn't know what a "lemure" is, but that he nailed it on "hyalopterous."

>>27181513
The fuck? That isn't what I posted.

>>27181519
Anyone can enlighten me as to Ral's and Jace's relationship in the books?

>>27181519
It's okay. The first picture was funnier.

>>27181560

Jace is investigating the maze, Ral's sent to stop him from mucking about in Izzet plans.

Jace makes a fool of Ral, Ral wants to kill him because ral's a douche.

>>27181560
Ral is a douche who wants Niv-Mizzet's D.
Niv-Mizzet wants to give Jace the D instead.
Ral haet Jace.

>>27181600
Eh, it kind of makes sense. You spend a year working on a project, then the boss passes you over for someone whose application he was just forwarded from a job search site.

No matter how much work Ral put in, no matter how hard he tried, he was ignored. And when something's big enough that it gets all ten guilds of Ravnica involved in it, it would sting like a bitch to get absolutely zero credit.

>>27181519

>>27181600
>Jace is being a fag
>Somehow Ral is the douche
Wizards Logic

>>27181633
The only problem is that Jace is the Mary Sue of MtG and therefore will always win.

God, I fucking hate the Planeswalker crew.

>>27181652
Is it that bad? I kinda stopped following the storyline when Time Spiral came around.

>>27181652
Don't you start with this nostalgia-tinted faggotry in this thread.

>>27181514
He probably had to look up hyalopterous, but thought he already knew what a lemure was.

>>27181644

>>27181682
The other guys aren't bad, but Jace is obnoxious.

>>27181682
Every block is basically Nicol Bolas sticking his dick in every single plane and the rest of our ragtag bunch of misfits having a big wacky adventure on the plane of the week until Jace comes along and saves everyone by being insufferably brilliant and edgy.

>>27181687
I will start that faggotry everywhere you whippersnapper! Don't tell me what to do!

>>27181705
Didn't mean to quote

>>27181633

I thought that was just because Niv hated Ral, personally, for being a douche who thought his physics degree made him and Niv equals.

Niv is a vain motherfucker, the only arrogance he appreciates is his own.

>>27181682
Not really, most of them are fine. The big problem is Jace is kind of a douchy dicksmudge and Wizards fucking loves his guts because the average bumblefuck likes him the most.

>>27181713
Literally no block since Zendikar has had any major Nicol Bolas intervention; his involvement in NPH was so little it might as well not have been there. He's done nothing in Innistrad and RTR.

>>27181734
Honestly, Niv probably barely notices Ral as anything other than standard-issue guildmage. Ral has kept it a secret that he's a planeswalker, so that isn't on the table.

Really, the fact that Niv doesn't notice him is part of what rankles. Ral wants to be recognized for his achievements, but the way Niv does business is to hand out pieces of projects to people at random and then shuffle them all together.

>>27181749
Well obviously I was exaggerating for dramatic effect. My point still stands.

>>27181749
Their market research says that Jace is the most popular planeswalker and that he is universally liked. That's why they stick him everywhere.

Basically, the only people that hate Jace are some Magic oldfags that complain a lot about the internet because they still get a raging boner whenever the word "Weatherlight" is mentioned.

>>27181809
b-but muh oldwalkers
;_;

>>27181809
Yeah, I know. I don't really like Jace but no more than I dislike other characters. Like Nissa, fuck her, the only good thing she has are her tits

>>27181778

>"Master Mizzet! I've concluded all five of the experiments I was assigned at once thanks to some space-time manipulation! What do you think?"

>"Who are you again? Nevermind, take this and see if you can get it working. We've got stuff to do, kid."

And people think Izzet is the "fun" guild.

>>27181809
Jace just appeals to the crowd of edgy 12-year olds who fancy themselves masterminds when they play a Counterspell the rest just likes him because nearly every iteration of him has been ridiculously good.

>>27181831

she packs in the tits department at least.

>>27181814
Magic can't be the same after 15 years. Characters change around. New storylines are being created. It's ever-changing, like the people playing the game.

Pic unrelated, even if not really funny.

>>27181851
Ah yes, the infamous Olivia's giant knee-dong.

>>27181851

This is my personal headcannon for that art. Maybe it's just me, but a bat up the dress is funnier than futa to me.

>>27181809
>stick him everywhere
He's been in three non-core sets. As of Theros, so has Elspeth.

Furthermore, in terms of actually being involved in the story, there's Return to Ravnica. That's pretty much it. His entire role in Zendikar was to show up at the Eye of Ugin and briefly fight Chandra. None of the planeswalkers in Lorwyn were actually there during the storyline.

>>27181864
>knee-dong

Both her legs are outstretched, though.

>>27181850
Yep.

>>27181884
I should have said holding-the-dress-with-her-hand dong.

>>27181889
Only elf I would ever rape.

>>27181904
Her fingers aren't even clenched. Try holding a dress like that. It doesn't work.

Jace got big creepy old man hands.

>>27181917
>What are the other three fingers on her hand
Besides, she can't even move her upper arms with her shoulder bullshit thing, and you're going to criticize whether or not her fingers are clenched the way you think they should be?

>>27181917
>pinch that shit between index finger and thumb
sure was hard

>>27181833
>izzet
>not the fun guild

>>27181904

For the N billionth time, Olivia's dong was an artist error. Her right leg wasn't supposed to be stretched out.

>>27181149
>Borborygmos in Wut
Well not in Standard decks, that's for certain.

>>27181963
We know. It's still funny.

>>27181951
Pinching her dick, that is.

>>27181963
faggots don't care, they love any chance to call something a trap. plus she's ugly enough to be a tranny anyway

>old magic

>>27181981

good ol' topdeckin'

>>27181981
>madness
>old
Odyssey was fucking awesome though

This is a pretty hilarious thing.

>palestinian

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18uFhD4rnxM

>>27182014
>still has the old borders
it's fucking old.

>>27182014
>>27182033
the originall rootwalla it's from 2002

>>27182071
>2002 was 41 years ago

>>27181724
I love that final panel

>>27181999
LSV and Kibler staring at each other with those looks. never gets old.

>>27182071
...that's the one in the picture?

>>27181981
That's not Madness.

Now this is Madness.

>>27182097
rootwalla is from the 2002, that picture uses the tormet rootwalla from the 2002.

>>27182099
That's like printing a sorcery counterspell.

>>27182071
>nobody remembers the true original rootwalla.

>>27182122
I remember it! It's like a nice third-pick in M14 draft.

>>27182122
people that play eternal only remember non-shit cards, if you remember that rootwalla you're having a grave case of stupidity/nostalgia or just searched rootwalla on magiccards.info

>>27182121
>what are spellshapers

>>27182122
I try not too, Troll Lizard is functionally more efficient.

A Magic humor thread? Can I join in?

>>27182121
>he never build UG Madness

>>27182147
ur shit

>>27182156
I figured it's some interaction, but I didn't even know Magic existed back then, so I'm not familiar with those sets.

>gentle eventug

Hasn't anyone got the screencap of when Snapcaster was first put on Gatherer?

>>27182147
>being this mad for no reason

>>27182222
Nice quads. What was wrong with him?

>>27182242

Nothing. Which is why I found the comments amusing.

I don't like neowalkers. They're artificial protagonists/antagonists.

>>27181962
That wig is hideous

If you ever wanted to tear up all your opponent's permanents into pieces, this is how.

>>27182284
Explain.

Especially seeing how some of them are actually pretty awesome. Like Venser.

>>27182332
They can just concede at any point.

>>27182342
>Venser
>Awesome
I like the neowalkers, but your opinion is shit.

Garruk, Caller of Beasts

>>27182358
I can only show you the way. You have to walk it alone.

>>27182368
that is one moe Garruk right there

>>27182367
What's wrong with Venser? He was all artificing and trying to make spaceships so that anyone could walk the planes.

Plus he combat teleported like a boss.

>>27182358
Best counterspell ever. That was a fun EDH game.

>>27182342
They're forced and cliched characters that detract from the settings as a whole. MTG's focus was on the societies and cultures as a whole, rather than character drama.

>>27182385

>>27182390
>Muh addiction
>People are objects, much less important than muh artifacts
Urza was a frustrating enough character the first time around. At least they killed Venser off before he had time to fuck the multiverse with throbbing metal cawkses.

>>27182420
>He didn't read the Weatherlight Saga

>>27182420
But they've had that stuff since Urza

>>27182284
B-but anon, market research shows the neowalkers are the hippest and most popular thing in the history of Magic!

And without them, Wizards would have to waste time putting actual work into block story lines instead of bringing us wonderful plots like "Jace enters a planar conflict out of bored curiosity and wins earning himself even more crazy powers: The Guildpactening"!

>>27182423
Where on earth are you getting your blessed implications?

>>27182428
Yes, but those faggots didn't become the focus of multiple blocks and try to make all of Magic into one coherent story. They died with the Invasion and that was it.

>>27182284
>They're artificial protagonists/antagonists.

What the literal fuck does this even mean?

>>27181519
Nothing at all
Nothing at all
Nothing at all

>>27182500
They're like Karn

>>27182516
OR he could have meant Tezzeret.

>>27182500
>artificial
It's /v/-speak.

>>27182525
Tezzeret's design look's ugly as fuck. Like a caveman with down syndrome that got rebuilt by Ikea using Tinker Toys.

>>27181344
this is cute

>>27182470
Have you even read anything with Venser in it?

>>27182497
....
The Weatherlight Saga was four blocks long, and it was originally slated to be much longer.

>>27182582
Yes? The stuff involving his quest for Karn, amongst others.

>>27182531
Could you trandlate the /v/tard for me then?

>>27182651
The typical /v/igger will often mutter "Muh artificial" about anything it doesn't like. It's more of a grunt of dislike than something with actual meaning

>>27182651
>I don't like thing, but don't know how to articulate it
>things is artificial

>>27182637
>Quest for Karn
Not the guy you're arguing with, but fuck you for giving me PTSD flashbacks to that horrible shit.

>>27182500
Get out of here Tigrex, you're a stupid T-Rex-cat and a poor excuse of a monster

Get Barioth in here, that guy at least looks like he could hang out in an arctic climate

>>27182147
Rootwalla is in m14 scrublord

>>27182599
Yes, but it introduced new settings and art that was actually sort of interesting.

>>27182841
You could have just said

>I am biased towards old settings because Magic was at its best when I started playing.

>humor thread
>people trashing the game and characters and settings and Wizards and everything else

tg in a nutshell.

>>27182841
>introduced new settings and art that was actually sort of interesting
...so, like everything since Time Spiral that wasn't a repeat? Even then, I'm only discounting the repeats because they aren't introducing new settings.

Magic is a visually and flavorfully vibrant brand at the moment. The flavor of the worlds in sets is much more apparent and tied to the cards themselves than it has been at any other point in Magic's history.

You just don't like it because change is scary.

>>27182682
>>27182683
The way I interpreted it was that they don't actually add anything to the storyline by their presence. The exact same conflicts could've been included using characters from Ravnica, but instead Wizards decided that since their established Planeswalker Corps was reasonably popular, they'd just insert them to play the roles of antagonist/protagonist.

Or maybe it really is just /v/speak, how would I know?

>>27182941
Hey, I think its pretty funny

I liked Lorwyn, but we will never get it again because "muh grimdark".

>>27183059
I love the dark atmosphere of Shadowmoor actually. It's one of the few sets I'm really sad I never played with.

>>27182945
If you honestly think Innistrad was a good setting, then you're dumb.

>>27183080
>this is why we can't have nice things

>>27183080
I don't, but I do think that the setting--boring and cliched though it may be--is better represented on the cards than Rath ever was.

Zendikar? Awesome adventure world. Theros? Awesome Greek world. Lorwyn/Shadowmoor? Gotta love them. Alara? Pretty interesting, except for all the non-Naya bits. New Phyrexia? Awwww yiss. Ravnica? Loved it the first time, still love it the second, looking forward to the third.

>>27182945
EVERYTHING after Alara is poo

I ... I just w-want my waifu back, /tg/.
Tell me she's coming back eventually. ;_;

>>27183091
Omg she's all wrecklass and mean just like a drug addict except she's addicted to black magic instrad, it's all like symbolic n stuff and also explains why she dresses like a harlot but shes strong cuz of her black magics and burly zombie servants to protect her from mean green muscle men who would otherwise punch her and abuse her poor exposed womynflesh

>Wizards in charge of making STRONG FEMALE CHARACTER without getting it completely backwards

>>27183128
New Phyrexia and Ravnica were unecessary cashins. Zendikar was alright, but not remarkable. I'm hoping that Theros is good.

>>27183074
Shadowmoor is the tits.
>that gloom
>those scarecrows
>those cinders
>that fairytale sense of oppression and hostility emanating from the entire world without being over-the-top CORRUPTION and PUNY MEATBAGS like new phyrexia

>>27183194
But don't forget Lorwyn, since it acted as a build up to it.

>>27183171
Even in the alernate timeline where crovax doesn't murder her, your waifu is gone

>>27183180
>implying people weren't fucking CLAMORING for a return to Ravnica

Mirrodin/New Phyrexia less so, but still. I'm not going to criticize them for doing something the players have been wanting since Ravnica first came out.

>>27183173
>hurr all strong female characters are supposed to be princess-soldiers dressed in retarded ugly baggy clothing that social justice warriors on /tg/ and /co/ love

>>27183244
>>>/pol/

>>27183217
It still hurts. ;_;

>>27183270
that has literally nothing to do with my post fuck you are truly retarded

Was MTG's lore ever good?

>>27183244
No, they're supposed to be covered in so much plate that you can't even tell they're female until they speak. Get with the program.

>>27183173
If there's any hamfisted moral behind liliana it's one about the price of self interest, not addiction.

Also she dresses like a harlot to look like a harlot. She literally sold her soul to stay pretty, that's not even being handwaved so no one notices the fanservice, looking like a tart is a deliberate part of her character.

>>27183180
People were basically begging to back to Ravnica, and they still are. We'll return again, because it's one of the most popular worlds they've made.

>>27183305
Some of it. Don't read into the lore or the books. Just read the flavor text, admire the art, and smile if it makes you happy.

>>27183221
Mirrodin was literally the best selling set for AGES. People loved that place just as much as they loved Ravnica.

>>27183464
And now it's dead and all the people with giant boners for phyrexia fap tirelessly to their new flayed skinned waifus.

Shit ending to a nice plane.

>>27183493
RIP Mirrodin we hardly knew ya and I honestly hardly cared for you.

RIP Melira and Jor Kadeen cause I know Koth is alive

>>27183493
There's enough Mirrodin sets that you can do double-block sealed with one booster from each set, same as Ravnica.

>>27183493
don't talk shit about my flayed-skinned waifu

>>27183464
People loved it, but didn't really think about returning to it in the same way. Plus, people get emotionally tied to guild identities more than they got tied to any aspect of Mirrodin.

That's why Mirrodin got Phyrexianized, but Return to Ravnica was about remaking the Guildpact.

>>27183080

Innistrad left untouched was interesting. Humans a desperate minority, losing out to werewolves, zombies, ghosts, vampires, etc. All the spooky stuff being real in the world was neat.

Dark Ascension and Avacyn Returns spoiled the setting, and the sortof 'story' for the block was incredibly dumb. The way the block currently is is boring. I liked a lot of the mechanics, at least.

>>27183091
CCCRRRRAAAAWLING IN MY SSKKKIINNN

>>27183582
You are now aware that, somewhere on your body, there could be a spider.

>>27183244
There was a fluff article back around the end of Innistrad that basically read "Liliana is black because of her reckless addiction to power" and then launched into a flood of blatant metaphors that served as DEEP BACKSTORY to her current gaunt, poorly clothed physical appearance.

By the end of it Liliana was a junkie, the Chain Veil was heroin, Garruk was the abusive ex-boyfriend coming after her for giving him a VD, and Jace was the cool-headed distant but smart and thoughtul guy who works in the firm across the street from her trashy apartment and he's SO DREAMY BUT OH THEY JUST AREN'T SURE IF THEY'RE GOOD ENOUGH FOR EACH OTHER

It wasn't very good for my opinion of the neowalker design, to say the least.

>>27183559
More like they had already set up for Phyrexia's return

Phyrexian bio weapon literally caused mirrodin to form as we know it. The starting idea for the block that would eventually become Scars was 'show new Phyrexia, don't reveal it's Mirrodin til the end.'

>>27181652
No, you hate Jace. It is literally impossible to hate best walker.

>>27183598
What the fuck.
https://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/stf/158
I don't want shit like this, I want stuff like this:
https://www.wizards.com/Magic/magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtgcom/feature/145

>>27183665
>stop.jpg
I, too, love this guy.

>>27183665
Yeah you just cannot hate Sorin.

>>27183669
You're not Every Magic Fan though.

>>27183598
Assuming you mean >>27183669 this isn't like that at all. It basically reads as her not giving a shit and being a terrible person, because that's basically what she's about.

>>27183643
True, but my point was that they could have had a Ravnica block about the fall of the guilds and the rise of the Gateless, just as Scars block was about the fall of the Mirrans and the rise of the Phyrexians.

The reason they did not is that people love the guilds. A lot. Guild identity is one of the biggest hooks they have, and might actually be stronger than players identifying with planeswalkers.

>>27183764
>might actually be stronger than players identifying with planeswalkers.
Of course it is, most enfranchised players give minimal shits about the walkers where just about everyone at least has 'their guild'.

I actually didn't like RTR block because in order to make the Gateless thing work they had to make all the guilds act like total assholes.

>>27183802
Well, to be fair, that also drove the necessity of there being a new Guildpact.

Fortunately, we have said new Guildpact, so Ravnica III: Son of Ravnica will be glorious and without Gateless bullshit.

>>27183680
Sorin would be best planeswalker if he didn't have a bizarre gender-bending/ZETTAI RYOUKI fetish.

>>27181638

>>27183729
The article I remember reading wasn't 'in-universe' like that link, it was a "here's what we wanted Liliana's personality and relationships to be like" conceptual design rundown.
I distinctly remember it talking about Jace as a brainy and well-to-do prodigy, and potential dream boyfriend if not for the whole "my soul is being held as collateral by a cabal of nasty demons" thing she's got going.

>>27183874
>Not liking absolute territory

Meganerd

>>27183809

Just use Damnation you daft vampire bastard.

>>27181652
Except he get's his shit kicked in by Garruk.

>>27183809
That's bullshit, that Nissa looks moe and she's a cunt who should look like a cunt.

>>27183881
Gonna need a source on that.

>>27183885
It's not that I don't like it, but Sorin programmed it into Avacyn as "Thing everything should have."

>>27183936
Are you guys talking about a penis?

>>27183643
That sounds significantly better than the hamfisted war storyline they put together.

>>27181999
That one faggot who decides to applaud a topdeck.

>>27183874
How is Sorin into genderbending?

Avacyn isn't his opposite sex clone, and even if she was, that would be twincest at worst, not genderbending.

>>27183907

>>27183936
He's doing god's work, man.

>>27183970
>implying Avacyn isn't just Sorin's goth schoolgirl fetish made real

>>27183936
Angels are female in the Magic multiverse, has been that way for a long time, probably will be until we get Planar Chaos 2.0 or a new Un-set. It's less a fetish or something he programmed in and more like "If I want to make angels, this is how they have to be."

>>27183598
I'd appreciate it if you'd stop saying bad things about my wife.

>>27183907
Sixten cannot draw non-moe

I really miss Lotus Cobra Is Evil. Best mtg comic except for PMO (which also doesn't update anymore, so fuck).

>>27183999
With thigh-high boots that leave that little patch of skin at the top of the thigh bare? Because that's a fairly common theme with Innistrad angels.

>>27183958
He's applauding an exciting game to watch, not a good play.

I liked Urza and Yawgmoth's scheming.

>>27183999
Zettai Ryuokki is a dumb Japanese fetish thing about leaving a strip of shown flesh between the skirt and thigh high socks. Avacyn and her Powerpuff Girls had it and I think some other angels too, which is weird given Innistrad is supposed to be cold.

>>27184043
>>27183958
It's one of the winner's teammates. He's just applauding that they won.

>>27184059
Given that Angels aren't flesh and blood, being beings of MAGICS, doubt they give a fuck. Just like the vampires.

>>27183862
An idea I had even before Ravnica II was a Ravnica prequel block, featuring the original parunes (including ones who didn't get cards like Svogthir and Azor I), the signing of the Guildpact, the hunting of the dragons and more Nephelim.

>>27184087
Angels are manifestations of pure mana. Vampires are dead guys. Not quite the same thing.

>>27184092
Reminds me of

>>27184092

>>27184103
Vampires of innistrad are just a result of a freaky experiment or something. Sorin used to be human.

>>27184103
I know. Neither can really feel cold was my point.

Why white mana would choose to manifest in such a way is a better question. White's chief principles are morality and order - which does zettai ryouki correspond with?

Or maybe that's just Sorin's black, hedonistic influence showing.

>>27183987
How would making an angel fulfil Sorin's schoolgirl fantasies? It's not like he's blue and can mindswap them.

>You control target player's next turn.
Oh I get it.

>>27184145
Oh yes, forgot about that. The original Innistrad vampire (Sorin's dad) was an alchemy experiment.

>>27184110
Is that Adjani?

>>27181149

>>27184170
>You control target player's next turn
Oh Sorin you dawg you

>>27184102
We're more likely to see the original paruns in a Commander product.

DO YOU HEAR ME, WIZARDS? IF YOU MADE TEN COMMANDER DECKS, ONE FOR EACH GUILD, I WOULD BUY AT LEAST ONE OF EACH.

>>27184155
Zettai Ryouki aims for the purity/innocence angle. It's suggestive without being obscene.

>>27184176
Yup. Ajani's gonna be in one of the later Theros sets. Rumored to be G/W

>>27184025

>>27183999
But anon, comp players don't buy joke cards, and Time Spiral block was the worst and most terrible block in the history of Magic (turns out casuals and new players can't stand thought-out references to past sets or intricate rules, thanks for clearing that up market research). I doubt we'll be seeing them again.

....I miss Time Spiral.

>>27184194
If they only did the ones without cards, it would be 5 decks, like a normal commander release.

>>27184221
So morality then. Take note, custom card fags, AT belongs in white's slice of the color pie.

>>27184176
Looks like it. Elspeth and Ajani are friends so maybe he's showing up later.

>>27183999
>Angels are female in the Magic multiverse
>probably will be until we get Planar Chaos 2.0 or a new Un-set
Here's holding out for a trap angel in Un3!

>>27184194
build them, faggot

>>27181724
being tibalt is suffering
i tried so hard to make him
i built a deck just for him for an fnm
i went 1-3
i never even had him out on my one win :(

Um, guise...

>>27184293
Check the set bro

>>27184293
>Planar Chaos

>>27184293
What?

>>27184266
Yeah, but then we'd have very unbalanced pairings. It would make much more sense to just do all ten.

>>27184276
>Implying I'm not just hopelessly begging for more Ravnica cards
Dem watermarks

>>27184307
I think it's been implied that there hasn't been one even in a PC-like product.

>>27184257
Time Spiral was fantastic, but it really was probably too much for the un-entrenched section of the playerbase. It was an art house block, and just like actual art house movies, the plebs don't get it.

There STILL a not insignificant portion of /tg/ who don't understand why Planar Chaos cards are the way they are.

>>27184235
GW Ajani would be pretty baller. if so maybe someday we'll gwet full Naya Ajani since he's already been RW.

>>27184345
>There STILL a not insignificant portion of /tg/ who don't understand why Planar Chaos cards are the way they are.
Point in fucking case: >>27184293

>>27184285
I built a Tibalt deck. Used Vexing Devild, cast from exile griffin, Skaab ruinator, and snapcaster mage with a lot of instants that drew cards. You only played him on turn two. He was discard fodder any other turn and he actually worked.

>>27182342
Venser was around before Neowalkers existed though.

>>27184249
Goddammit sixten stop making me sad that you don't so regular comics any more

At least he updates more often than PMO

>>27184338
You're replying, without quoting, to a post you "think" exists?

Next time, make sure it's real and reply properly.

>>27184345
>Time Spiral was fantastic
How?

>>27184378
In fact, its implied he was the FIRST neowalker, since Liliana, Sorin and Bolas are premending and not technically neowalkers.

>>27184378
No, Venser was actually the first Neowalker.

I don't get why people like him, though. He was really generic in the book.

>>27184377
I tried him in a U/R Burning Vengeance combo/control deck with 18 flashback spells and he was still bad in it.

>>27184420
What
Cube pack?
What

>>27184427
Dem flavor texts, man

>>27184194
I don't think the Commander or Summer Multiplayer products will introduce cards for known characters. So far the legends in them have all been new, just like the M13 legends.

Although we had wedges in 2012 and shards/slices this year, so if 2014 and 2015 are enemy and allied pairs respectively I'd hope to see at least a couple of new characters from Ravnica.

>>27184394
How was it not? Ravnica-Time Spiral is one of if not the best standard of all time. So many things you could do, so many super cool cards, great returning mechanics, etc.

It was just shit if you hadn't been playing for a long time.

>>27184421
He's a distraction or fodder. The best thing he does is confuse. The free card is fine and the fog is fine, but opponents ALWAYS had a little panic when they saw me play him with a straight face. He causes misplays because he's so terrible.

>>27184368
Is it really that fucking hard?
http://wiki.mtgsalvation.com/article/Planar_Chaos/Trivia#Timeshifted_references

>>27184467
What is even the point you're trying to make?

>>27184467
Apparently.

You have no idea how often I've seen people claiming color shifted cards or other general time spiral weirdness as precedent for out of color bullshit. It used to be even worse too, when magic threads were newer to /tg/.

>>27184456
>It was just shit if you hadn't been playing for a long time.
What if you played Standard to get away from the limitless options, so many cool cards and tons of old mechanics of Extended? What if you played Standard because you wanted an environment that was a little more, well, standard?

>>27184499
Wizards said that they themselves regret some of the timeshifted cards and future sight cards, etc. because they just confused the players who were not "in on the joke"

>>27184518

Then you are boring? And, apparently, not the target demographic, I guess. Maybe Block constructed is more your thing

>>27184394
Time Spiral referred to old plots and settings using rules AND flavor while still adding some really unique/iconic elements of its own - I'll never forget those 'lava bubble' monoliths in the island and blue art.
It also pooled a massive amount of rules and keywords from past and present and played around with them, showing what the design team could do given free reign to fiddle with complexity.

Of course, that went over about as well as you might expect with casual players and corporate, so now Wizards has New World Order to protect their sales figures from nasty things like complex rules interactions and excessive creativity.

>>27184518
Then I guess you have poor taste?

Seriously though it's not like Time Spiral suddenly made Standard into an eternal format or even into extended. Everything was still pretty tame, just weirder.

>>27184420
>no Stranglehold
It's like you're not even trying.

>>27184420
I've always loved the Null Rod quote

>>27184589
I like this version better.

>>27184654
>>27184589
As a judge and a templating enthusiast, I find these strangely cathartic.

>>27184654
That type line isn't as funny with tribal cards existing. Should be Enchantment -Gate or something.

>>27184689
they make my eyes feel weird, like those optical illusions that look like they're moving, my eyes keep noticing slightly sensical parts of sentences and then get confused when the rest of the line doesn't make sense

>>27184699

>>27184699
>RRR/Sacrifice a creature mana

I like it

>>27184695
Tribal Enchantment - Legendary

>>27184610
>>27184614
>Then you are boring?
>Then I guess you have poor taste?
Christ you're touchy. If I don't like overcomplex sets, I should skip a block?

>Maybe Block constructed is more your thing
What about if I'd like a bit more complexity and options than that. Say about twice as much. Plus a core set.

Is that too much to want from the format named "standard"?

>And, apparently, not the target demographic, I guess.
I thought Standard players were a target demographics for most sets?

>Everything was still pretty tame, just weirder.
Really? Because I heard it was full of so many options, so many complex cards, and more mechanics alone than Standard as a whole usually had.

>>27184726
*Tribal Enchantment - Legend

>>27184695
But it isn't tribal, so it can't have a creature type.

>Try MtG tatics via steam
>Wow it's so shit
>Try to uninstall it from control panel

Comedy gold

>>27184768
about fucking time someone did that alter

>>27184768
Have they printed a vampire nighthawk without the reminder text yet?

>>27184611
>It also pooled a massive amount of rules and keywords from past and present and played around with them, showing what the design team could do given free reign to fiddle with complexity.
>nasty things like complex rules interactions and excessive creativity.
A lesson in spacing out cool idea, I should hope. I don't think that's an unreasonable one, especially now there's supplementary products for such things.

Sets can't just be bundles of 2-5 cards with every cool idea.

Look at how they can return to mechanics now and do new things with them. No need to use all that up in multiple mechanics just for one novelty block.

>>27184740
Standard doesn't promise anything but a rotating format, broseph. Sorry you didn't like TS, but you're definitely in the minority amongst established players of the time.

>Really? Because I heard it was full of so many options, so many complex cards, and more mechanics alone than Standard as a whole usually had.
Wait, you 'heard'? You weren't even playing at the time? Fuck off and stop talking shit about an era you didn't even play, then. It was basically a normal standard for the time period.

>>27184815
If we're talking kicked, then that will be...
3 golems. Target one with Rite, + 5 x 3 copies
18 golems. Target one with Rite. + 5 x 18 golems.
108 golems.

>>27184815
I forget, how many is that? My math is terrible nowadays.

>>27184875
Yeah, forgot to calculate the ETB golems.

Fuck.

>>27184886

>>27183194
Honestly, Kithkin are one of the things that freak me out the most about Shadowmoor.
>Xenophobic beyond measure
>paranoid and will try to kill you
>every city has a deathtrap at the entrance
>have a freaky hivemind

>>27184837
>Standard doesn't promise anything but a rotating format, broseph.
Yeah, and boosters don't promise a rare and three uncommons.

There's things Standard is meant to be, and "a mechanic from every block in the last decade" is not one of them.

>Wait, you 'heard'? You weren't even playing at the time? Fuck off
I was sarcastically referencing your claim about TSP having those things being a good thing, back here >>27184456

>It was basically a normal standard for the time period.
So all that stuff about how wonderfully different it was was just a lie then?

>>27184887
Aaaaand also forgot the multiple copy triggers.

Yep, slow day.

>>27184915
Mobile doesn't show filenames unfortunately.

>>27185012
Let me show you.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1L_FIQrjBdh5J66KKAT2JJ2gTx1KfbXJUfXrdydjzhrY/edit

>>27185012
3,592,528 golems total.jpg

>>27184589
>Remove target creature from the game
Should be exile now.

Also, should be less complex at uncommon, regardless of mana cost.

>>27185041

>>27185041
So you're saying the card should read "Bury" and be a Common.

>>27185041

>>27185028
I cast Rakdos Charm.

>>27185157
>Everything was Tarmogoyfs and nothing hurt.

>>27185133
I really wish this was a thing.
A goblin test pilot deck would be so much fun to use

>>27185198
>>27185133

How does one quickly find a way to select from, say, 30 creatures/players at random?

>>27185176
It's a Tarmogoyf that pumps three of your other seven Tarmogoyfs.

It would hurt.

>>27185219
You dont

>>27185219
number them off, then random.org and/or dice shenanigans

>>27185234
>£5 from everyone
And what percentage of that goes to the EU?

>>27185309
Nothing; it doesn't have extort.

>>27185324
Zing!

"HA HA, I'M MADE OF WOOD!"

>>27185344
"If that guy's superhero nickname if Evening Chill, what's mine?"

And the award for the best art + flavor text combo goes to...

"If you're Havengul problems I feel bad for you son, I got 99 problems but a Lich ain't one."

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/22554414/
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/22556375/

Achived magic threads where they replaced a word from a flavor text with "dick". Hilarity ensues, especially with gems like Elvish Archdruid.

>>27185583
Oh come now, she could just turn her head sideways.

>>27183936

Maybe Innistrad angels are just into that style and Sorin wanted his creation to fit in.

...Yeah, still not sure if Innistrad had angels and Sorin created the greatest one or if Avacyn's the mother of all the ones we see on Innistrad.

>>27185627
I think angels are always a planeswalker's creation.

>>27183217
I unironically ship Mirri the cursed and ascendant evincar.

>>27184815
Searing blaze
GG

>>27185627
There were sort of angels, but they rarely if ever chose to manifest

>>27185654
That's false, though a few more important ones are.

>>27185672
You mean RR.

Also, Coat of Arms.

>>27184293
that's not an angel. it's a colorshifted ghost ship.

>>27185559
That was way funnier that has any right to be.

>>27185714
I sincerely hope you are trying to be funny.
>coat of arms
You're still dead

>>27184699
>dat money mana

>>27185829
>magic humor thread
Of course I'm trying.

But yeah, I'm still pretty dead. Unless...Mizzium Skin!

>>27184273
Forces players to use gendered pronouns for all cards, with a penalty for using the wrong one or calling a creature/planeswalker "it".

>>27185660
>I ship X with Y

What exactly does that even mean? Do you draw pictures of them? Do you write stories about them? Or is it just a pairing in your head?

>>27185957
It's the last one automatically, with the first 2 things peppered in. When someone says they "Ship" something, they really mean "When someone brings it up, I like to imagine they're together, but it honestly is not something I really think about or remember often until it's brought up again."

>>27184102
I want more nephilim. and scarecrows. I want a scarecrow/nephilim deck

>>27186878
I'd just be happy if the nephilim were errata'd to be legendary. I DEFY YOU to show me a deck that EVER had more than one of those fucking things in the field at once.

>>27187052
I rite of replication'd the sand guy once, 6 of them attacking was fun. but yea, they should be legendary

>>27184815
>Opponent is a smug motherfucker about his golems
>Just as planned

>>27184407
All the living oldwalkers got downgraded to neowalkers post-Mending.
Bolas will still wreck your shit.

>>27188119
>Using murder on 4 million golems at once
>not pic related

>>27184815
>I overload Mizzium Mortars.

>>27188577
Why?

>>27188310
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHwow.
I want to do this to someone now.

>>27188592
Because of the rest of the board.
You're not relying on the golems, surely.

>>27185559
>Dick, at any cost

God dammit Bob.