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26939409 No.26939409 [Reply] [Original] [4plebs] [archived.moe]

So I created this Space Commies propaganda poster

What do You think, /tg/?

>> No.26939435

Hmmm
Needs more gay.

>> No.26939446
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26939446

Why is that one guy looking away from the camera, and why is the kroot apparently floating? Nothing says "united" when everyone are looking in different directions.

>> No.26939450

They don't look very united. More like everyone is just doing their best to ignore the fact that the kroot just let loose a fart huge enough to launch him a few inches into the air.

>> No.26939470

>>26939446
Lol, that's because it's the screenshot from the actual game.
I paused in the ideal moment when those guys split away from their formations and the sudden idea of creating these come to my mind.

That corpse in the background is Necron Pariah. It can be seen in symbolical way as "look what happen to those who oppose the Greater Good".

>> No.26939491

>>26939450
hehehe

>> No.26939499

>>26939470
I can see it's a screenshot from the game, I don't see why you seem to assume I'm an idiot.

It still doesn't change that this picture shows the exact opposite to unity.

>> No.26939506
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26939506

FUCKING INCREDIBLE WORK

>> No.26939522

An idea of Tau propaganda poster is nice. Does anyone have a pic that already exists?

>> No.26939576

>>26939499
Sorry, Just few moment after i started the game again to catch if from the better ankle those guys scattered and came back to their formations. I couldn't do anything better than this.

>> No.26939599
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>> No.26939624
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>> No.26939653

>>26939599

>> No.26939675
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>>26939599
This is Tau'va!

>> No.26939681

>>26939624
I wonder how many flashlight-bearing cannon fodder they had to sacrifice just to get that one Shas'la

>> No.26939685
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26939685

>>26939624
Fear not guardsmen, Tau are merciful.

>> No.26939732

>>26939681
It's from the Jericho Reach so probably a few million.

>> No.26939763

>>26939685
Notice that it's a Sargent cowering in fear. These stupid loyalists.

>> No.26939790

>>26939685
>>26939763
Whenever I see that, I always think the Tau is saying "Nigga, chill the fuck out. We just gonna get you educated in the greater good. Stop smoking them rocks."

>> No.26939805

>>26939790
>Also we're going to castrate you, but don't worry it's no biggie

>> No.26939832

>>26939805
Since when are Tau castrating anyone? (Reminder that their DC ending is not canonical)
Pics or didn't happen

>> No.26939899
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26939899

>>26939409
rough idea, but maybe something like this, but with kroot, tau etc. weapons? all in blue and yellow-ish collors

>> No.26939914

>>26939899

colors*

>> No.26940037

>>26939899
If I only was good at editing... Unfortunately this was only a wild idea that came to my mind, hoped some of You might like it.

I've got pleny other screenshots that might make good propaganda, so I'll try to do something better

>> No.26940078

>>26939599
the guy on the left?

>> No.26940131

>>26940078
No, he's covered with imperial eagles and crosses. While the other one has Tau letters on his clothes. Hm, which one could be a Tau sympathizer? Think hard.

>> No.26940230

>>26940131
People arent clean in the Imperium, so it has to be the guy on the left

>> No.26940299
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>>26940230
>Not having your soap flown in from the other side of the sector where it is harvested from the fat of the Giant Carnivorous Barbed Venomous Death Worm, at the cost of millions of lives.

Peasants aren't really people, you know.

>> No.26940355

>>26940299
>not harvesting it from tyranid hive ships
Its like you dont even have a taste for the finer things in life

>> No.26940406

>>26940355
Tyranid soap would be glorious. Imagine washing your armpits with a lictor.

>> No.26940424

>>26940406
You mean you don't?

>> No.26940519
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26940519

MOAR TAU PROPAGNADA

>> No.26940629
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26940629

>>26940519
EVEN MOAR

>> No.26940642

We need more posters.

>> No.26940739
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>> No.26940813

Let's not forget the Tau dropped a rock on a civilian population center on Medusa V.

>> No.26940864

>>26940813
Source it, please. In which report did it happen?

>> No.26940868

>>26940739
Oh god, i can feel how it burns while it stares at me.

Seriously, that shits fucking terrifying.

>> No.26940884
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26940884

>>26940519
>>26940739
2berry4me!

>> No.26940909

>>26939409
it's very bad

>> No.26940942
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26940942

Allright, that's what I created right now quickly

Probably even worse than the first one, but I couldn't come up with anything better

>> No.26940960

>>26940942
>Tau'va Commissar

Haha

>> No.26940986
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26940986

You funny space blueberries. I shall chop you up into bite sized blueberries!

>> No.26941037

>>26940960
So what? You have to keep discipline in ranks of Gue'vesa as well. "You think that Commander Farsight is a hero? Heresy! *blam*"

>> No.26941044
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26941044

>>26940986
Oh no!

>> No.26941094
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>>26941044
Yes, this pleasing to the eye.

>> No.26941121

Look, I hate to break it to you OP, but the models from the DoW1 game simply aren't up to be used as a propaganda poster.

>>26939446

This looks good.

>> No.26941156

>>26941094
>I_have_the_weirdest_boner.jpg

>> No.26941255
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26941255

>>26941156

>> No.26941367
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>>26941121
Stylized propaganda is best propaganda.

>> No.26941590
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26941590

OK, not really the propaganda poster, but I'll post it anyway. I swear, this is the last one

>> No.26941678

>>26941367
Anyone knows what's the caption?

>> No.26941724

>>26941678
"We produce the steel that builds the Communist future" or something to that effect.

>> No.26941906
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26941906

>>26939832

>> No.26941981

>>26941906
Sauce? There's no word about it in Tau Codex 6th edition, and I believe that it's the most current and most reliable source.

>> No.26941986

>>26941678
As far as I know, see filename.
I have other Chinese propaganda posters in this style if you want.

>> No.26942002

>>26941981
Deathwatch.

>> No.26942008

>>26941906
That's from FFG. Usually when I bring fluff from there I get people jumping at me with ''Not Canon'' ''Third Party'' and starting a huge argument with me. Make up your minds people!

If you are one of those guys giving me crap recently over FFG, I swear I will somehow find you and strangle your hypocritical ass in your sleep!

>> No.26942021

>>26941906
Besides, most of the current sources state that Gue'la are allowed to confess Imperial religion under case of believing in Greater Good as well, so I'm 99% sure that Your informations are outdated.

>> No.26942022

>>26942008
Why are you assuming I am?
FFG is totally canon.

>> No.26942032

>>26942021
My "informations" are completely canon.

>> No.26942108
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>>26942022
>FFG is totally canon.

Or its canon when its suits you and not canon when I bring it up!

I am keeping my eye on you people. Be warned!

>> No.26942153
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>>26942108
Are you trying to have an argument with people who disagreed with you in the past, and most likely aren't even in this thread?

>> No.26942192

>>26942008
"By the second stages of a population· enm· into the Tau
Empire, more evidence of the Tau· presence can be
discerned. The distinctive streamlined ryle of Tau buildings
rise from the planet's surface in gleaming superiority.
Mechanical upgrades, cleaner air, and countless efficiencyaiding
devices are installed. Much of this equipment arrives
pre-fabricated, lowered into position by massive dropships
that descend from orbit. Planetary rule is maintained by
councils of the native race, although they will quietly report
to Tau advisors. Occasionally, their decisions are overruled
by the Tau, but such instances decrease with time. Native
customs are allowed and studied by the Tau, and so long as
they do not inhibit efficiency, they are allowed to continue.
Over the years, new customs are introduced and the cultures
show signs of amalgamation - although the one constant is
that the Tau are always treated as first amongst equals."

Well, as I said, 6th edition Codex claims something completly different... I think we have conflict of sources here.

>> No.26942193

>>26942153
They are always here.

They just choose to hide this time to vex me!

>> No.26942195
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26942195

>>26942108
Then this is cannon too!

>> No.26942286

>>26942193
*whispers* Step back from the monitor You morons, he feels Your presence.

>> No.26942328
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26942328

>>26939435
>Yissssssssss?

>> No.26942348

>>26942195
That's not FFG.

>> No.26942364

>>26942286
>*whispers*
*whips out dick*

>> No.26942419

>>26942364
>*whips out dick*
*gets on the floor*

>> No.26942440

>>26942419
*walks the dinosaur*

>> No.26942462

>>26942348
All fluff is cannon or no fluff is cannon!

>> No.26942463

>>26942364
>>26942419
*whips out dick too, but stays where he is since he's too beta to do anything more than watch*

>> No.26942489

>>26942462
Oh, it's canon. It's just not true.
The quote that mentioned everything being canon mentions that doesn't make it necessarily accurate to what REALLY happened.

>> No.26942503
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26942503

>>26942463
Either walk the motherfucking dinosaur right now or get out.

>> No.26942504

>>26942462
Anything posted in this thread is canon!

>> No.26942549

This thread got retarded quickly. I blame /v/.

>> No.26942563

OP here
I do not quite understend what is exactly going on, but keep it running

>> No.26942599
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26942599

>>26942195
USA USA USA

>> No.26942631

>>26942008
>"I'm the only one who can use FFG as fluff!"

How about you two fuck already and leave the rest of us out of it.

Also, I'm still waiting for that proof FFG is canon.

>> No.26942679

>>26942631
Keep in mind Warhammer and Warhammer 40,000 are worlds where half truths, lies, propaganda, politics, legends and myths exist. The absolute truth which is implied when you talk about "canonical background" will never be known because of this. Everything we know about these worlds is from the viewpoints of people in them which are as a result incomplete and even sometimes incorrect. The truth is mutable, debatable and lost as the victors write the history...

Here's our standard line: Yes it's all official, but remember that we're reporting back from a time where stories aren't always true, or at least 100% accurate. if it has the 40K logo on it, it exists in the 40K universe. Or it was a legend that may well have happened. Or a rumour that may or may not have any truth behind it.

Let's put it another way: anything with a 40K logo on it is as official as any Codex... and at least as crammed full of rumours, distorted legends and half-truths.

I think the real problem for me, and I speak for no other, is that the topic as a "big question" doesn't matter. It's all as true as everything else, and all just as false/half-remembered/sort-of-true. The answer you are seeking is "Yes and no" or perhaps "Sometimes". And for me, that's the end of it.

>> No.26942690

>>26942679
Now, ask us some specifics, eg can Black Templars spit acid and we can answer that one, and many others. But again note thet answer may well be "sometimes" or "it varies" or "depends".

But is it all true? Yes and no. Even though some of it is plainly contradictory? Yes and no. Do we deliberately contradict, retell with differences? Yes we do. Is the newer the stuff the truer it is? Yes and no. In some cases is it true that the older stuff is the truest? Yes and no. Maybe and sometimes. Depends and it varies.

It's a decaying universe without GPS and galaxy-wide communication, where precious facts are clung to long after they have been changed out of all recognition. Read A Canticle for Liebowitz by Walter M Miller, about monks toiling to hold onto facts in the aftermath of a nucelar war; that nails it for me.

Sorry, too much splurge here. Not meant to sound stroppy.

To attempt answer the initial question: What is GW's definition of canon? Perhaps we don't have one. Sometimes and maybe. Or perhaps we do and I'm not telling you.
- GW's IP manager

>> No.26942733

>>26942679
>>26942690
Saved.

>>26942631
See? It's canon especially the fluff about the C'tan and Chaos Gods!

>> No.26942770

>>26942690
>>26942679
>GW's IP manager

Apart from the fact that it's Marc Gascoigne, a BL publisher, do you have a source on that, because anyone could have just written it and posted it on an anonymous website as proof.

Because last time I wasn't allowed to use a quote by George Mann, the HEAD of BL, where he specifically says that studio fluff is canon and doesn't give two shits about anything else. Mainly because I couldn't trace it to a reliable enough source, while "everything's canon" crowd can slap that quote around just fine.

>> No.26942816

>>26942770
It was on ADB's blog.
Further, I don't remember that ever being said, since the only quote similar I remember is that studio fluff is the only fluff BL authors have to care about when they write novels.

>> No.26942878

>>26942690
My favorite is the story about the Lunar Cruiser named Lord Daros, which in one version was built from scratch in orbit over a feudal world (BLACKSMITH! Forge me a 'Gellar Field Generator', no it's not a horseshoe.) over the course of 11 years. In an other version of the story, the Lord Daros broke down in orbit over a feudal world and spent 11 years raiding the world for supplies until an Imperial rescue mission arrived.

>> No.26942885

>>26942679
>>26942690

If I'm understanding you correctly here, is that everything is true, based upon each other's point of view? That in a time and place where information can be near instantaneous and decades lagging at the same time, anything said is possibly true.

Can Space marines spit acid? Yes. Are there any instances that it has been done? Not to my knowledge, therefor, lack of evidence means it is untrue.
Do Orks have human "advisors" (not planet heads, but actual advisors, simply orks never admitting it)? Yes. Are they ever mentioned? No.
Are Blood angels brutal melee, but honorable warriors? The Space marines would say yes. Are they uncultured and uncivilized brutes with a twisted form of honor? The Tau would (probably) say yes. Both views are valid and true.
Are nurglings cute? Are slanesh warriors beautiful? The Chaos worshippers would agree and report as such back to our time, while the Imperium would disagree, painting them as wretches, and report that back as well, meanwhile, orks would find both amusingly stupid and easy to kill, marking them both as weak disfigured beings.

Do I get your point?

>> No.26942904
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26942904

>>26942885
Uh huh.

>> No.26942908

I'm sorry, but that poster just looks terrible.

Props for 3-d talent though. I thought those were models.

>> No.26942945

>>26942908
>It's a screenshot from Dawn of War.

>> No.26942946

>>26942599
dude, wtf?

cookie monster?

>> No.26942956

>>26942904
This is the first time I've ever seen a spess mereen use his corrosive saliva.

>> No.26942973

>>26942885
Yes, that's the idea. It's all true, but not necessarily accurate.

>> No.26942984

>>26942956

>Talos closed his hand around her throat.

>He could sense she was duller, slower, and the beat of her heart was quicker than it had been in the palace. The assassin was weakened from her escape and the recent battle.

>But she would kill him before his hearts had time to beat twice if he tried to hold her. Everything about this creature was engineered to end life, and with infinitely more skill and grace than the blunt efficiency of the Astartes. He was a warrior, but she was a murderer. He was trained for battle and war. She was bred only to kill.

>The same second his hand gripped her throat, he was already acting.

>Not to squeeze. Her armour of precious synskin would resist such trauma. He jerked her close, risking a headbutt to daze her. That was a mistake. The assassin leaned her head back like a recoiling serpent. Curse her, she was *fast*.

>Talos felt her fisted hand coming up to unleash the lethality within her rings – each one a digital weapon of some unknown configuration. He wasted no time.

>The Night Lord spat into her face, and hurled her away.

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>>26942946
Sesame Street's support of Al Qaeda has always been controversial even in best of times.

>> No.26942998

>>26939409

Wish I could play FoK, but it lags and freezes. Don't know why.

>> No.26942999

>>26942984
>She had not screamed in many years.

>It wasn’t that pain was new to her, nor even a surprise, but this was no neat severance of limb from the body – this was the dissolving of her eyes in her skull, and never before had pain eclipsed her senses so completely. Even through the agony, she imagined the wretched Night Lord stumbling away in his cumbersome armour, amused at her momentary helplessness.

>And she was right. In the darkness, Talos relished the sound of her scream. Even sweeter was the subtle, mellifluous hiss of acidic venom eating into the soft tissue of her beautiful blue eyes.

>Panting now, seeing nothing but milky white sunfire, the assassin swallowed the pain, remembered her teachings, and used the agony as a focus. Over the vicious tssssssshhhhh of her melting eyes, she heard the humming rumbles of his armour.

>He had to die. He had to die *now*.

>She launched at him to make the need become reality.

>> No.26943021

>>26940037
I think the problem is that screen shots don't make for very good posters.

>> No.26943029

>>26942984
>>26942999
Oh god, what is it with 40k authors and goreporn.

>> No.26943042

>>26943029
I'm pretty sure it's also brought up in the Salamanders books.
There's two sources for you.
You want something that's never used, talk about the Omophagea, which if I recall was only ever brought up in Space Marine, though there it was brought up in detail.

>> No.26943052

>>26940629
is that a tablet sketch?

you might get more detail if you scanned a pencil or line drawing. Also, tau probably wouldn't let humans wear their armor and use their weapons.

>> No.26943068

>>26942904
Strong independent marine who don't need no bio-scanner

>> No.26943074

>>26940739
sexy... hehe

you know that tau reach maturity when they are 14?

Giggity!

>> No.26943076

>>26943052
>Also, tau probably wouldn't let humans wear their armor and use their weapons.

Actually they do.

In Fire Caste, the Tau had humans who were trained to be Pathfinders.

>> No.26943082

>>26943052
They do "when necessary". Every human settlent in Tau space gets an auto-fabricator, which can mass produce farm machinery or primitive weapons like lasguns, when unlocked they can produce Tau level weapons like pulse rifles.

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26943093

>>26943068
I've always liked that bit.

>> No.26943095

>>26940884
rawr!

Kinda looks like a daemoness. Whats that shes carrying, an umbella?

>> No.26943097

>>26942816
Here, from that same blog post:

>Part of 40K’s appeal is the inconsistency. The IP folks have explained to me oh-so many times that 40K writing is about every author having their own sandbox, their own sectioned-off corner of the setting, to do with as they please and show their perceptions. It’s not Star Wars, with that same aggressive continuity shrinking the galaxy word by word, annihilating all mystery. Which is why when there’s something like Kharn getting the same voice actor in an HH audio drama and a 40K audio drama, I just don’t really care. My Lorgar isn’t Anthony Reynolds’s Lorgar. My Fabius Bile won’t be Jim Swallow’s Fabius Bile. My Logan Grimnar isn’t Bill King’s Logan Grimnar. And so on. I’m not bound by what they’ve done before, and they’re not bound by what I’ve done.

>That’s very much the point of the license as it was explained to me by George Mann, by Alan Merrett, by friendly folks in the IP department.

>The Heresy series is the exception, as it’s very much a different set of rules to usual 40K writing. Continuity matters a great deal because it’s a single storyline with multiple authors, with established beats and immense character crossover. But in 40K, as long as you’re not passing off core lore mistakes as personal style, continuity is very much not the point of the license. Individual perception, from gamer to reader to author, is everything. It’s what you see of the setting. It’s what you bring to it. it’s taking what you like, and throwing it into the mix. Reading the novels is about enjoying other people’s perspectives, and seeing how they match/contrast your own. Not about them feeding you drips of information to be slavishly obeyed.

This coupled with Mann said about studio fluff being the core, you can see that everything that's not from GW studio is basically just fanfic they published, not the word of god truth.

>> No.26943114

>>26942904
>not being able to bend prison bars w/o using acid.

Wow, space marines are pretty fucking weak. I mean there are real life Russians that can do that.

>> No.26943115

>>26941044
Wow, thats actually impressive. Kinda rapey though.

>> No.26943121

>>26943076
In Fire Caste, the entire world was Space Vietnam that neither side actually WANTED, and so the Tau were making sure the war dragged on interminably.
There was no Greater Good there.

>> No.26943138

>>26943097
This kinda sucks.
I liked more the original idea from ADB's blog about personal canon for everyone.

>> No.26943142

>>26939506
What the fuck did I just watch?

>> No.26943145

>>26941590
Thats better, but still not sold on the idea of using screen caps to make posters.

Maybe if you recorded the whole session and replayed it you could find some cool poster material. Not sure if dawn of war has a playback feature or not...

>> No.26943166

>>26943097
Uh... that's not what that is saying at all. It's literally stating that every single piece of canon is completely relative.
Did you fail reading comprehension?

>It’s not Star Wars, with that same aggressive continuity shrinking the galaxy word by word, annihilating all mystery.
>Part of 40K’s appeal is the inconsistency.
>That’s very much the point of the license as it was explained to me by George Mann

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>>26943114
How'd the space marine escape?
Donno, maybe he spit acid and melted the cuffs?
They can do that?
Yeah. It's not like we forgot to lock the door or anything, space marines can totally spit acid that melts metal.

>> No.26943174

>>26941906
Sterilization does not = castration

radiation, vasectomies, ect. all achieve the same purpose.

>> No.26943187

>>26942108
exactly, now you understand.

much like the REAL catholic church.

>> No.26943192
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>>26943114
He'd just spent several days straight being tortured by Fabius Bile himself.
Forgive him for being weak.

>> No.26943207

>>26943138
And how does that fuck it up? It says right there that each author is given their own freedom the play with the core elements of the setting. And in WD320 the studio said this:

>The Background exists as a context for the games that people play. Despite the occasional event, the background was never intended as an ongoing narrative that would be constantly updated. The back story presents questions, enigmas, problems, and conflicts. Gamers explore and solve these issues by playing games and developing armies. In short, the background provides the beginning, but the players provide the end.

>What is Cypher up to? Well, he's up to whatever you need him to be up to for your games and campaigns. What does the cult mechanicus have to do with the dragon? Whatever you want that relationship to be.

>The background should be like Schrödinger's Cat - Nothing is defined until the players look into the box by playing games and determining the outcome for themselves. Backgrounds should be full of possibilities to be exploited and expanded by players, not answers that limit the potential of the game and its setting.

GW fluff is the core, but everything that's not mentioned in it or is left hazy, is up for grabs. You can use BL, FFG or what ever to build your own view, but remember, it's still your headcanon. GW studio fluff (rulebooks, army books, codexes, etc.) is the set in stone shit, but even at best it's very bare bones.

>> No.26943215

>>26943121
Actually, the Imperium and Tau wanted it. The Imperium wanted to get rid of troublesome troops and commanders and the Tau used the world as a recruiting ground for spies and Gue'vesa.

The Tau had it good there and had a really good plan. But some Abel had to screw it up.

Anyways, it shows that trusted Gue'vesa ''janissaries'' are trained and armed as pathfinders.

>> No.26943237

>>26942992
What about Rambo?

He fought with Al- Queida in the 80's in afghanistan against the Russians.

>> No.26943242

>>26943192
You'd think Fabius Bile would know that space marines can melt metal with their acid spit.

>> No.26943247

>>26943145
Yes, it has and I use it often. Thanks for the advice. I only got one question - does anyone of You have idea how to hide the menu option, in order to make better screens?

>> No.26943259

>>26943215
No, they specifically didn't actually want it. Either side could have won the war if they bothered. It specifically said a few Space Marines could have taken the world in like a month. They wanted the war to drag out because neither side wanted to seem weak but neither side actually wanted to expand the front in that direction.

>> No.26943262

>>26943166
It's stating that every single piece of non-studio fluff is personal views of their authors with no correlation to each other (so in one novel character X can be like this and in another novel by another author he can be like that, and they're both valid from the viewpoint of the author's vision of the world).

HH is the only exception, where consistency is important.

>> No.26943269

>>26943242
Fabius Bile didn't really give a shit. He let his minion handle it.

>> No.26943271

>>26943192
Why didn't they just kill him right there and now?

I mean it takes longer time to take him to his cell and then kill him and dispose the body then what it would take to simply kill him and dispose the body.

>but they left like the same minute the put him in the cell!!!

Then why not just stab him till he was dead and leave him on the chaos-star he was on? They wouldn't even need to take him down from it.

>> No.26943273

>>26943262
Where does it mention that the studio fluff is what's set in stone?

>> No.26943285

>>26943271
Because the story would be over then.

>> No.26943288

>>26943215
Having a base in Vietnam would have given us a huge advantage in the pan-pacific theater.

>> No.26943319

>>26943288
sorry, i don't know where that came from.

>> No.26943331

>>26943271
We will lower him unnecessarily slowly into the giant tank filled with sharks with lasers on their heads...

>> No.26943334

The Betcher's Gland is also mentioned in Iron Snakes, if I recall. Specifically, the Iron Snakes can get bitten by snakes, isolate the venom, then spit it out their Betcher's Glands later.

>> No.26943379

>>26939805
You...do realize that sterilization and castration are two different things, right?

I mean, just asking.

>> No.26943400

>>26943379
Both serve the same purpose and end with the same result.

>> No.26943414

>>26943273
In the George Mann quote I mentioned, where it's stated that studio fluff is canonical and doesn't need to adhere to BL, FW nor 3rd party stuff, but others have to adhere to it or make their spin on the blanks left in it.

Even ADB says in the blog that with 40k, "You get the bare bones of a colossal universe, and that’s it." Or as the studio said in WD320, "the background provides the beginning, but the players provide the end."

Studio fluff is the core from which everything else grows. "Set in stone" was a poor choice of words, I meant that it's the foundation on which everything is built. But all that stuff, BL novels, etc., are just personal view of the bigger picture.

>> No.26943419

>>26943271
There's an imperial force on the way, all the minions there are toast anyway. Bile don't give a shit.

>> No.26943460

>>26943400

1 is a permanent solution to a temporary problem, the other is a potentially reversible condition.

Even at the bloodthirstiest the Tau have been painted, they've never been painted as rash or stupid. Castration would be rash and stupid...

>> No.26943461

>>26943414
Which doesn't make it "fanfic". The Star Wars AU is officially basically fanfics that they publish. The Black Library is more "this is something that might have happened". Which my quote specifically mentioned.

>> No.26943470

>>26943460
They're much like Soviets. Soviets castrated people.

>> No.26943513

>>26943470
No, they're much like Chinese. Chinese do not behave like animals when they don't have to.

>> No.26943526

>>26943470

1) That doesn't mean that they will.
2) It is unlike them to do such a drastic and permanent decision.
3) They are rather unlike the Soviets actually. Maybe the Vietcong. I don't see mass poverty, do or die, this is forbidden die, mentality anywhere in the Tau description. They are strongly encouraged and are valued as high as their rank, but not individually, comes, yes, but should they display characteristics that are unique and not in direct contravention of the greater good, they will welcome those traits (albeit with weary eyes).

>> No.26943530

>>26943513
>Chinese do not behave like animals when they don't have to.
Someone has never been to China.

>> No.26943560

>>26943513
No, they're much like Soviets, a la The Party.
>>26943526
>It is unlike them to do such a drastic and permanent decision
>do or die, this is forbidden die
top lel
Fire Warriors who fail their training disappear in the night and are never heard from again. Everyone pretends they never existed.
Same happens to transgressors against the Greater Good, same happens to everyone who talks about Farsight.

>> No.26943568

>>26943461
>40K writing is about every author having their own sandbox, their own sectioned-off corner of the setting, to do with as they please and show their perceptions.
>It’s not Star Wars, with that same aggressive continuity
>My Lorgar isn’t Anthony Reynolds’s Lorgar. My Fabius Bile won’t be Jim Swallow’s Fabius Bile. My Logan Grimnar isn’t Bill King’s Logan Grimnar. And so on. I’m not bound by what they’ve done before, and they’re not bound by what I’ve done.

>my quote

Your old quote. Marc left BL in 2008. Mann is the current head and ADB's quotes are newer.

>Marc Gascoigne said it best in an old quote
>when the license was in a different place, and stuff was published then that really wouldn’t get past the loremasters and IP hounds now. Black Library had… looser standards of adhering to the IP

>> No.26943587

>>26943560
That's the point. They're subtle assasins, not Khorne Berzerkers.

>> No.26943603

>>26943568
Bullshit, since The Chapter's Due, 2010, has a corsair who's specifically mentioned to be half Eldar.
Different place my ass.

>> No.26943618

>>26943587
Quietly having all failed Fire Warriors shot is pretty drastic and permanent.

>> No.26943648

>>26943560

>Fire Warriors who fail their training disappear in the night and are never heard from again.
Are sent back to training for 6 "months". Fail that again, another 6 months. Fail again, made supply manager in a warfield (something one would think would be a water caste duty).
>same happens to everyone who talks about Farsight.
So they murdered their entire fire caste? Mind you, the fire caste is it's own race, not like you can make a fire caste out of a couple of water caste. Yes, even after Shadowsun came to the field, everyone still talks/whispers about Farsight.

Might want to look at more than a single source anon.

>> No.26943663

>>26943603
>corsair who's specifically mentioned to be half Eldar.

I think she was speculated she was a Half Eldar because of her speed and beauty, but it wasn't thrown out there in the clear that she was a Half Eldar.

>> No.26943675

>>26943530

Mainland China is like fucking North Korea. They run over babies in the street repeatedly and nobody stops to help. Fucking organ theft is widespread. They just straight up jack your organs. One job was done when a Chinese American tourist went to a restaurant bathroom. They found her 30 minutes later with all her organs removed since I guess just killing her and gutting her entirely was quicker.

Look at Hong Kong or Taiwan for a less biased perspective. It's like calling Koreans shit and not considering South Korea and only looking at North Korea.

>> No.26943679

>>26943603
Where does it say you can't have half-Eldar? GW's own fluff has contained half-Eldar in both the old astropath as well as rumored in Inquisitor about one of the special characters.

>> No.26943680

>>26943648
It pretty specifically mentions that the Ethereals are trying to wipe out all trace that he ever existed, bro.
And yes, whispers, because those who aren't quiet about it vanish.

>> No.26943685

>>26943648
It's TIDF all over gain.

Sheesh.

>> No.26943707

>>26943679
Yeah, in rogue fucking trader fluff.
Also, you're thinking Necromunda special character, and Necromunda had Squat Miners as a faction.

>> No.26943718

>>26943663
She looked like one and pretty much everyone said "they say she's got eldar blood".

>> No.26943734

>>26943680

Trying to but, failing. They're NOT killing people for mentioning him though (at the very least not most of them). That would be drastic. There are simpler and more subtle and effective ways to achieve it. My entire point. They're still working on it, as it is hard to completely cancel out a former big-shot (kinda like completely destroying evidence of a Primarch in a SM chapter).

Again, logic and more than 1 source point.

>> No.26943761

>>26943734
So you're saying they're worse at it than the Imperium, since not even the Inquisition knows who the lost primarchs are.

>> No.26943812

>>26943761

Sure as hell that the chapters themselves know who their primarchs are, mate. And it's been a relatively short time, compared to when Farsight left (as well as him resurfacing every once in a while in big fights with orks), as well as his fighting style having to be taught in schools everywhere.

I suppose they are worse at it than the Imperium, which DOES involve "you are wrong, BLAM!" method of supression.

>> No.26943827

Everyone, apologies for shitting this thread up, got a bit carried away.

Back to recruitment for the Greater Good!

>> No.26943835

>>26943812
>the chapters themselves know who their primarchs are
But a bunch of them have no idea whatsoever.
Also, hasn't it been literally generations since he left? They really suck at this.

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>>26939409

>space commies
>unquestionable, unpassable caste system within their society

Ah, I will leave it to the worms to argue with filthy xenos scum.

GUARDSMEN, FIRE ME TO GLORY!

>> No.26943872
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>>26943827
Hell yeah

>> No.26943883

>>26943870
>FIRE ME
What, out of a cannon?
Shit, there's leading from the front, and then there's this.

>> No.26943907
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>>26943883

ARE YOU QUESTIONING MY ORDERS, GUARDSMAN!? I SAID FIRE!

>> No.26943924

>>26943907
Hey, your funeral.
You wanna go ahead and get in the Basilisk, then?

>> No.26943939
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>>26943924
>>26943907
>>26943870
>>26943883

>> No.26943956

>>26943707
That's the one. And squats are back, so what's the problem?

>>26943718
Who say?

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>>26943924

DON'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO, HERETIC! IT'S SUMMARY EXECUTION FOR YOU!

>> No.26943995

>>26943956
The Squats will never be a faction ever again, is the problem.
And from what I recall, most of the other corsairs mention that they hear she's part Eldar.

>> No.26944002

>>26943981
What the fuck, dude? How do you expect me to fire you out of a cannon, if you won't get IN the cannon?
Also your aim is terrible. That wasn't even me. The hell did Jimmy do to you?

>> No.26944023
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>>26943981
True barbarians of those Gue'la, shooting their own poor people... Drive me closer, i want to hit him with my sword!

>> No.26944030

Tired of fretting of the new Commissar and how he will execute you in the field of battle, if you don't get to him first? Come to the Tau, or leaders are reasonable, and you get to shoot the current Commissar all you want*.

*Offer valid until Commissar either turns or dies, so act fast.

>> No.26944035

>>26943995
>The Squats will never be a faction ever again, is the problem.

Faction in 40k the game. They can be in other place.

>And from what I recall, most of the other corsairs mention that they hear she's part Eldar.

I hear Obama's a Muslim communist Nazi.

>> No.26944064

>>26944035
The difference being Obama doesn't look exactly like a Muslim and doesn't express Muslim traits.
Unlike Kaarja Salombar, who looks like an Eldar and is Dark Eldar fast.

>> No.26944084
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>>26944002

STOP QUESTIONING THE WILL OF THE EMPEROR AND KEEP FIGHTING, HERETIC!

>>26944023

COME!! MEET YOUR DOOM!

>> No.26944122

>>26944084
WHY DON'T YOU FOLLOW YOUR OWN ORDERS!
BY REFUSING TO ENTER THE EARTHSHAKER CANNON, YOU ARE ACTING IN DIRECT DEFIANCE OF A COMMISSAR'S ORDERS! YOUR DUTY REQUIRES THAT YOU EXECUTE YOURSELF FOR INSUBORDINATION AT ONCE.

>> No.26944145

>>26944064
>Obama doesn't look exactly like a Muslim and doesn't express Muslim traits

Clearly you haven't been listening to right wing radio.

>looks like an Eldar

So she's pretty. Or a mutant. Or a pretty mutant.

>and is Dark Eldar fast

So was Ephrael Stern, apparently, seeing she could beat them in hand to hand combat in her underwear.

Didn't Salombar ally with Chaos, so how do we know she wasn't tainted and thus given unnatural speed, agility and beauty? Violet eyes isn't really a sign of a normal person.

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>>26944084
KROOT WARRIORS, CHAARGE!

>> No.26944207

>>26944145
>pretty
Dude, she had the specific inhumanly angular features of an Eldar.
Ephrael Stern was both a Mary Sue and a superhuman psyker.
Cadians and Elizabeth Taylor have violet eyes. You'd be better off mentioning that her hair is BRIGHT BLUE.

>> No.26944219

>>26944165
Oh sure, pass off the fighting to the vassal species, why don't you.

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>>26944122
>>26944165


YOU SEE THESE KROOT, HERETIC?! I DON'T WANT TO! FIRE!! SUCH IS THE EMPEROR'S WILL!!!

>> No.26944309

>>26944279
Right, fuck this. I'd defecting to Nurgle.

>> No.26944319

>>26944207
>Dude, she had the specific inhumanly angular features of an Eldar.

All the modern artwork and video games show Eldar as just tall skinny sexy elves.

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>>26944309

YOU SURE ABOUT THAT, SON?

>> No.26944352

>>26944334
I'm going die either way, but at least Nurgle will actually give a shit about me for a while before hand.
EMBRACE DECAY.

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>>26944319
There are a few that don't.

>> No.26944377

>>26944207
>Dude, she had the specific inhumanly angular features of an Eldar.

And you choose to believe and rage over the rumor she's a half-elf and not over the possibility she's a mutant or has been mutated through Chaos?

>Cadians and Elizabeth Taylor have violet eyes.

Cadians, who live right next to the Eye of Terror. And Taylor's eyes are not violet, they're deep blue that merely look violet in the right lighting. Only way to have truly violet eyes is through albinism (a mutation).

>You'd be better off mentioning that her hair is BRIGHT BLUE.

Hair can be dyed.

>> No.26944445

>>26944377
I'm not raging at all. I approve of half-eldar.
I'm saying that BL has hardly become more obsessed with lore.
Eyes vary a lot in the Imperium. You can end up completely naturally with things like vertical slit pupils and yellow or red eyes in WH40KRP games.

If her hair was just dyed, it'd not be taken as really fucking weird by a pack of Chaos corsairs.

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>>26944352

ALRIGHT SON. I WISH YOU WELL. MAY THE EMPEROR BE WITH YOU.

>> No.26944502

>>26944451
Uh, OK then, I guess.
I don't think he's going to be with me, though, on account of how I'm trying to destroy all that he's created now, but whatever.
Anyway, gonna stab you to death now and paint myself with your entrails, if that's cool with you.

>> No.26944520

>>26944445
>I'm saying that BL has hardly become more obsessed with lore.

Having an off hand mention that one character's a big like Eldar isn't exactly multi-laser Marines fighting Slaaneshi Eldar.

>> No.26944529

>>26944520
>big

*bit

>> No.26944548

>>26944520
Oh, you're talking about Goto fluff rape.
Well I happen to like Goto, and relatively recent fluff had a Chaos dreadnought get DROWNED.

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>>26944502

Why don't you take a seat? Right over there.

>> No.26944580

>>26944573
Or I could just stab you to death with this rusty fence spike I found.
Yeah, that sounds good. Let's go with that.

>> No.26944594
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>>26944502
Gentlemen, You realise that there's still a big horde of Kroot rushing against You, don't You?

>> No.26944615

>>26944548
>Oh, you're talking about Goto fluff rape.

I think everyone is.

>Chaos dreadnought get DROWNED

Well, if the sarcophagus leaks, the Marine inside isn't going to like it very much. And he's one of the types who likes to keep theirs open (the one in Daemon World) to feel the world instead of being locked inside a metal box. Or he's like that Dark Vengeance one where he's so mutated he's basically part of his dread, which wouldn't stop water from filling his lungs and killing him.

>> No.26944623

>>26944594
Hey, I'm not in the guard anymore. Are you telling me that your troops murder civilians?

>> No.26944639

>>26944615
>Well, if the sarcophagus leaks, the Marine inside isn't going to like it very much
The sarcophagus is already filled with liquid.

>> No.26944659

>>26944623
So tell me, dear civilian... Do You accept The Greater Good as the only legitimate way of life and want to join the Tau Empire?

>> No.26944693

>>26944659
The only truth is that everything rots sooner or later. Why bother trying to stop it?

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>>26944659
>>26944594

I LOVE THE SMELL OF HERETIC BLOOD IN THE MORNING!

>> No.26944715

>>26944693
I'm sorry Gue'la, but You give me no choice.
Kroots, continue the assult!

>> No.26944718

>>26944615
You don't get the issue.
Space Marines can breathe water.

>> No.26944733

>>26944715
Eh. Shit happens.
FOR GRANDFATHER NURGLE!

>> No.26944750
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>>26944639
Where does it say that? I've seen artwork of dude in one and it's just a cybernetic body in the middle of screens and cables.

And the dude in Daemon World wasn't suspended in liquid, from time to time he opened the sarcophagus and felt the wind and shit on his skin.

And then there's Mr. Vengeance.

>> No.26944796

>>26944750
Let me rephrase that, then.
MOST of them are filled with liquid, primarily as a shock absorber. It may also be oxygen-bearing so the SM inside can breath it, depending on the model.
CSM dreads are all very outdated models, they might have been made before that was a feature. Or maybe they just ran out of the stuff, I dunno. Lemme see if I can find where I read that from.

>> No.26944813

>>26944710
>>26944710
Haha, fools, You tought that ellemination of some Kroot give You any advantage?
That was merely a manouver to draw Your attention and surround You, because as always You don't give shit about tactics.

Now look back and smile nicely to this XV25 Stealth Team.

>> No.26944816

>>26944718
They can also spit acid. Sometimes. Maybe.

Very few chapters have all the gene-seeds working properly. The liquid could have also been devoid of oxygen (bodies of water can become so lacking in oxygen even fish die out).

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>>26944715

THE EMPEROR...

I SERVED 'IM...

WELL...

Ow...

ehhh...

>> No.26944844

>>26944827
>>26944813

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>>26944715
>>26944733
Show these "warriors" how soldiers win wars my Guardsmen...

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>>26939409
Absolutely heretical.

>> No.26944882

>>26943271
Because Fabius Bile is a sadist and decided that letting him live would be torment in its own way? The dude used to be in the Emperors Children and later studdied under the Haemonculi of Commorragh.

When you become a mad scientist and a Chaos Space Marine you pretty much become a Bond villain.

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>>26944827
So much unnecessary death... I'll never understand why they keep fighting instead of joining us.

>> No.26945010

>>26944921
Spite.

>> No.26945156

>>26945010
This. And pride.

>> No.26945391

>>26944921
because fuck xenos
terra4lyfe

>> No.26945408

>>26944816
Dude, MOST chapters have all their organs working. The only ones I can think of that don't are the Raven Guard and Imperial Fists and their successors.

>> No.26945660

>>26943242
considering he can also

>> No.26945704

>>26944921
>i hate it here
>i wish i was back with the sept
>my hooves hurt
>i think chan'vo touched my holy passage
>i dont like chan'vo

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>>26939409
C'mon OP, DoW can be more cinematic than that.

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>>26948504
it can be a lot more cinematic than that aswell

>> No.26954429
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>>26945408
BA got Red Thirst and Black Rage. White Scars are rumored (in Index Astartes) to have a chance of road rage (they go off their meds in battle) due to a possible genetic flaw. Index Astartes also rumors Iron Hands are obsessed with mechanizing their bodies to hide the genetic failures of their gene-seed. Space Wolves grow longer canines over time and have a chance to become a fucking werewolf. Salamanders turn into red eyed minstrels. And that's just 1st founding ones. Black Dragons grow bone blades out of their bodies, Fire Falcons are on fire!, Sons of Antaeus, Minotaurs, Lamenters... the list goes on.

And we have no knowledge what faults traitor gene-seeds have suffered since the Heresy, if they're even properly working after all that time or let alone what mutations Chaos has caused them.

>> No.26954728

>>26952806
Just tell me how to swich off menu in order to make better screenshots

>> No.26955047

>>26954429
Nothing you just mentioned has to do with organs no longer working.

>> No.26955206

>>26955047
Everything has to do with organs not working PROPERLY.

Salamanders are black and Raven Guard are white because one of their gene-seeds is not working properly. Black Dragons grow blades out of their bodies because one of their gene-seed is not working properly. And then there's individual problems. Not all Black Dragons got blades sticking out of their bodies, so some have more fucked up gene-seeds that others.

If a Marine has a faulty multi-lung implant, then he might be able to breathe with it, but he might not be able to get enough oxygen from water to survive. Maybe the mechanism that seals off his normal lungs in the event of this failed, his lungs filled with water and his body went into shock? Maybe he's so fused with his mechanical body that the small amount of oxygen he gets from water via 1 lung wasn't enough to keep his now massive body going?

>> No.26955234

>>26955206
That's still what I was talking about. Most Marines have all their organs. Simple as that.

>> No.26955458

>>26955234
All Marines have their organs, but that doesn't mean they work as intended.

>> No.26955508

>>26955458
Very few have ones that simply don't function.

>> No.26955950

>>26955508
But they can. And the multi-lung can function for breathing, but it's ability to siphon oxygen out of water might have been compromised.

Hell, how do we know the damage that ended up putting him into the dread didn't involve getting his extra lung blown off? There's accounts of Marines fighting with only one heart and shit. Doubt they felt like spending a gene-seed to protect a dude from toxins and water, when he's going to be encased in a sealed vessel for the rest of his unnatural life. Even less if he was entombed after turning to Chaos, as CSM consider dreadnoughts as a form of punishment. You don't cut off the thief's hand and then give him a prosthesis.

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