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>kikestarter
>scamstarter
>ect.
Yup. That's us.

>> No.26696333

>>26696316
Really? Well, that's a bummer then. Well, you have the Potential to get Master Chiefs and Giant Robos.

>> No.26696354

>>26696333

I should take some cheese with my whine. I think I'm just still butthurt the mini-tanks don't look as Bonaparte as the concept art.

It'd kill for a nice 28mm scale mini-tank.

>> No.26696385

>>26696354
Yeah...I think the tank is okay, but a Bonaparte mini would be awesome.
There are so many things I'd love to have minis of - I wish I could sculpt, but I've tried to learn and I just have no talent for it.

>> No.26696467

>>26696354
I'm currently backing Tiny Zombies board game, Cthulhu's Chaos Dice Tower, Zero Hour board game, and The Agents card game.
Also Gothingham 2 & 3.'

Got my Bones & my Dice Rings
Kingdom Death & Incredibrawl are funded but yet to be delivered.
And Privateer & Shuriken were cancelled

There that's all of 'em

>> No.26696502

>the Dragonking doesn't breath fire, but controls radiation and microwaves survivors near it.
Sweet.

>> No.26696529

>>26696502
what ks link

>> No.26696531

>>26696502
Too bad radiation sickness has no immediate effect and can take weeks to kill, so it's not really an effective weapon if the target is a knight tring to off him.

>> No.26696541

>>26696502
Ooo nice - not sure I got the Dragon King - I ordered so long ago lol

>> No.26696555

>>26696531
phwoosh radiation all over a village, fly away back to your hidey hole for a few months

bam, free village. same with a knight, radiation that nigga and fly away. ezpz

>> No.26696564

>>26696531
There is a difference between simply irradiating people and microwaving them.
>>26696529
It is Kingdom Death. Long over.
>>26696541
I wasn't going to get it at first, but the pledge manager came and I had the extra money.

>> No.26696601

>>26696564
A lot of nice artwork in those - that's why I got them. I know I got the Lion one. Not sure about the rest lol.

Still have to figure out the best way to assemble them - I'm thinking magnets so I can rearrange pieces for variety

>> No.26696619

>>26696601
I'm going to try to get someone to do a little bit of casting. For the stoneface bases for sure, hopefully for the survivors as well.

>> No.26696643

>>26696619
Oh yeah, I bought a bunch of those - they look awesome - and creepy

>> No.26696698

>>26696643
Wish I had gotten in on Cthulhu Wars - but I ordered it on their web site - thankfully they're still going to sell it there

>> No.26696708

Here's a project that deserved more attention than it received. It had such potential, and we need more games of this genre.

http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/questria-princess-destiny

>> No.26696729

>>26696708
>ponies in disguise
Disgusting

>> No.26696765

>>26696708

I'd fuck those characters. Cute art too.

A pity it won't be fudned, I like Princess Maker games.

>> No.26696903

I can't wait till my Battletech Unseens...err Robotech Tactics comes.

>> No.26696920

Want. Four awesome-looking models, and likely a fifth awesome-looking model, plus extended campaign. So much want.

>> No.26697039

>>26696920
lol "censored will include optional shirt"

>> No.26697083

>>26697039
For some reason some tumblr femenists thought the game the game is sexist.

>> No.26697137

>>26697083
Yeah, I really wonder why.

On the other hand, tumblr get pissed over everything, so it's not like people should care.

>> No.26697147

>>26697083
They just can't stand how liberated she is
>Hmmnnnhmmn You go girl. Slash tjem monsters like it ain't no thang. You don't need no man to fight them for ya

>> No.26697200

>>26696531
Wouldn't his armor be a bit problematic in that situation?

>> No.26697237

>>26697083
I really hoped Kingdom Death would turn out to be shit because all it had going for it was tits and monster designs that, while some were really cool, were only about "look how off the wall and creepy this looks".

>> No.26697296

>>26697237
B-But the gameplay sounds really c-cool.
>>26696903
I got in on it, but I'm not sure if I'll play the game. I kinda just wanted them because I love Macross.

>> No.26697357

Personally I found that an rpg.net thread lambasting Busty Barbarian Bimbos for being unfunny sexist rape-culture dreck was quite helpful for elevating the project's visibility early on.

According to Kickstarter's dashboard a couple hundred dollars worth of pledges were from folks that had just landed on the project page after following a link from an anti-BBB flamewar.

The lion's share of early pledges were from /tg/ or unspecified direct links (which I internally attribute to /tg/), but every little bit helps when you're trying to crest that "credibly likely to get funded" threshhold. It wasn't till it looked like full funding would be achieved that any significant number of pledges from within Kickstarter's "discover" section started to come in. Until you're at the 15-30% mark, people looking through that site don't seem to pay attention to you.

>> No.26697362

Kingdom Death looks like a cool game, but I can't imagine the number of creepy "that guys" I would be stuck playing with because of the models.

>> No.26697406

>>26697237
>I really hoped Kingdom Death would turn out to be shit
We'll hopefully find out in november.

>> No.26697418

>>26697406
So glad I got this beauty.. But I'll probably turn his peen into another arm.

>> No.26697431

>>26697418
How cruel of you. How would you like it if someone did that to your penis?

>> No.26697432

>>26697362
Hey! I resemble that remark ;-D

>> No.26697440

>>26697406
From what I've seen, Kingdom Death looks like Corruption of Champions: Tabletop Edition. With less furries.

>> No.26697463

>>26697440
It pretty much looked like D&D 3.5 with cards and oversized figures to me

>> No.26697490

>>26697463
You have giant tit-demons and pregnancy monsters in your D&D games?

>> No.26697502

>>26697463
with Call of Cthulhu monsters - those used to scare the willies out of me

>> No.26697512

>>26697502
>willies out of me
Don't you mean into you?

>> No.26697525

>>26697357
As a backer, I'm glad you got as much success as you did.

So now for that same old question: how far along are you? When can i expect to get my book?

>> No.26697542

>>26697512
willies bajeebers whatever lol

>> No.26697588

>>26697542
I'm not sure I want to know what a bajeeber is...is that some kind of technical term for a hyena's pseudophallus?

>> No.26697595

>>26697362
Depends on the maturity of your local playerbase, and who you count as friends to play it with.
>tfw being a caretaker of a sunstalker infant fucking sucks

>> No.26697599

>>26697512
The real question you should have asked was "how many willies do you have?"

Your next question should have been "why is everyone putting their willies into you while you Call of Cthulhu?"

>> No.26697627

Here's what I've backed thus far. Already got my Endless Fantasy Tactics and By Fire and Sword stuff. Warzone should be shipping out by the end of the month, CoC 7th edition I should have in October, Mekton Zero in November, All Quiet and Robotech in October and then Wargods sometime next summer.

I was really tempted to get "The Agents" because it looks awesome, but I just can't be throwing money around right now. New house is making that difficult. Word is that September will have the Mutant Chronicles 3rd edition RPG which I will be backing, and then I'll certainly be backed Mechafront when that goes live early next year.

I really wish I had gotten a chance to back Wild West Exodus, but I just didn't have the money at the time(I already had two ending that same week which ate my funds really fast).

>> No.26697753

>>26696920
Oh god that picture is everything that is wrong with American.

Tits must be censored because they are offensive, but using a babies corpse as a foot stool is fine.

>> No.26697791

>>26697753
'murica

>> No.26697804

>>26697463
...really? I must have been playing D&D wrong then cause it never seemed to be about using monster ball sacks to make armor and building a settlement and learning to talk and dance.

>> No.26697832

>>26697296
>>26697237
Actually the word is that it does suck.

He won't let anyone play or review the game. This is very bad to the development to the game and lead many to believing that the actual game play isn't that great.

For it to really be a good game it would have to be fun to play with nickels and dimes as representation as it is with cool
Minis. They have failed to show and refuse to try to show that they have much more than cool minis.

>> No.26697850

>>26697832
>He won't let anyone play or review the game
Until release, presumably. I mean he's probably not going to let some random get their hands on the rules before the backers.

>> No.26697880

>>26697832
Well, the guy seems to like keeping things a secret, but I do agree that keeping a complete lid on things rather than letting some media review parts of it isn't a great idea. Maybe he is waiting until further along?
He does need to build hype and advertise.

>> No.26697913

>>26697832
The word according to who?

>> No.26697932

>>26697832
He's having people playtest it. He's made changes to layouts reflecting this because according to him the people playtesting it forgot to keep track of time which is an important game factor. I don't know how common it is to have games tested by journalists when they aren't even finished yet.

>> No.26697938

>>26697850
Well some random, no, but a respected outlet that will say it is a good game can only be good for it. If it is a good game why not?

>>26697880
The thing is how much further along can it get? He is making "expansions" before the game is even done.

>> No.26697939

>>26697913
According to the most reliable source on the Internet, of course.

/tg/.

>> No.26697943

>>26697932
Not at all common.

>> No.26697983

>>26697932
>>26697943
It is very common. It is called beta testing in some fields.

We aren't just talking journalists too. We are talking game design experts.

>> No.26697994

>>26697983
You seem to think the PnP industry is a lot bigger and more professional than it actually is.

>> No.26698003

>>26697994
But Monster isn't PnP, it's a board game, and those have much more concrete rules to them, see Catan, etc

>> No.26698022

>>26698003
He does have beta testers, but it isn't a very open thing.
I'm not sure if he has any pros. on the design team, but with as much money as he got (maybe) he hired one.

>> No.26698159

>>26698022
Nope. The "design team" is he DnD group.

>> No.26698560

>>26697525
As somebody that's already running late by two months, I'm reluctant to make more empty promises, but we're really damned close. Optimistically I'll have a proofs in three weeks, at which point a real decision to ship can happen.

>> No.26698833

>>26697983
He is "beta testing". Beta testing is not writing conclusive articles about the game quality. Beta testing can happen and you don't even know about it. You are asking for information too early. The game isn't even close to release for regular sale, there's no need for reviews and judgement now. You wouldn't have critics watch a half-finished movie.

>> No.26698837

>>26696531
One of the first major victims of radiation poisoning died within a few minutes.

During the Manhattan Project, two carts carrying uranium smacked into each other. He pulled the uranium apart with his bare hands.

>> No.26698879

>>26698837
Well, you would die too if sandwich-smashed by two carts full of superheavy metal.

>> No.26698917

>>26698879
>sandwich-smashed

>> No.26698942

>>26698917
Goddammit /tg/

>> No.26698945

>>26698917
>sandwich-smashed

>> No.26699002

>>26698879
But that's not how you sandwich things.

>> No.26699008

>>26698837

Jesus Christ you're all so stupid.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demon_core

>> No.26699064

WWWII Tunnel Fighting underneath Gibraltar? Don't mind if I do.

Also, none of this 'development time' shenanigins delaying other projects. Since it's a re-issue of an existing game, with plastic minis to replace the old paper cutouts/metal minis (which means most of the sculpting is already done as well).

(I'd link, but I clearly haven't lurked long enough to learn how to get links past the ERMAGERD SPAM' filter...)

>> No.26699080

>>26698833
What do you consider close than dipshit?

>> No.26699102

Red Aegis looks alright, they have some big names attached (Ed Greenwood). It's about playing successive descendents of your party.

>> No.26699116

>>26699080
After shipment for donators dipshit.

>> No.26699119

>>26699102
Oh, and you can get a hardcover of the rules for backing, which is essential for me.

>> No.26699122

>>26699102
Yeah, but $40 for a pdf, seems a bit much too be.

>> No.26699165

>>26699116
So like 90 days dipshit.
Plus if it isn't done yet, why is he making "expansions" already?

Because his game is shit and all he really has is a good mini making connection.

>> No.26699189

>>26699122
Don't worry, the PDF will be free, they're at 200% and there's definitely a fa/tg/it in there.

>> No.26699255

>>26699165
>Because his game is shit
Source?
>all he really has is a good mini making connection.
Source?

>> No.26699264

>>26699255
His source is the educated guess you just saw him make. Look up "conjecture" in the dictionary sometime.

>> No.26699281

>>26699189
Ah, bueno. I for one would be interested in generation-spanning campaigns.

>> No.26699293

>>26699165
What are you calling me a dipshit for, dipshit?
The expansions were done as pledge rewards and they are actually just extra monsters/quests, they don't change or add to the core functions of the game like expansions rarely do unless you are playing Civ 5.

>> No.26699366

>>26699293
Some do add extra beginning/ending scenarios, but they're optional ones (even when using the rest of the expansion).

>> No.26699384

>>26699264
>educated guess
I get the 'guess' part, but I don't understand the 'educated' part in this context.

>> No.26699420

>>26699384
Would you settle for 'plausible'?

>> No.26699476

>>26699366
Well that's not changing how the game works. It's not like he's releasing a military warfare expansion you can use when reaching a population of 1000 before having finished the actual game.

>> No.26699529

>>26699476
Ah, OK; you mean adding extra mechanics. Yeah the expansions are just extra gear, monsters etc that are already parts of the game.

>> No.26699605

>>26699529
Yes exactly. The adding mechanics bit seems to be what the Anon implied when he complained about expansions when the game wasn't actually finished yet.
Which was a misunderstanding of the word expansion. It's not any different from that Arena Rex game adding fighters.

>> No.26700179

>>26697627
I honestly doubt Mekton Zero will be November. November for the pdf maybe but they'd have to be shipping the proofs NOW for the hardcover to come out then.

>> No.26700308

>>26699064

>Also, none of this 'development time' shenanigins delaying other projects. Since it's a re-issue of an existing game, with plastic minis to replace the old paper cutouts/metal minis (which means most of the sculpting is already done as well).

That's what I thought with Lost Valley. Then Pandasaurus decided to A: Completely ignore working on the game for four months because another Kickstarter ran into delays. B: Completely ignore working on the the game for three months because they were getting ready to pitch another Kickstarter. C: Decide to rewrite the rules of a six year old euro people were perfectly happy with. D: Sperg out over Comic Sans and decide to redo art.

>> No.26701788

>>26700308
>>26701486

*shrug* it's actually the first KS I've bothered with - since I always liked the game's vibe, but found the cost of all the metal minis prohibitive. So I'm not going to comment one way or another on that.

I mean they sound pretty legit in the 'comments community' they have going on. But then... who is going to go to their backers 'HEY! WE'RE EASILY DISTRACTED AND CAN'T BE ARSED TO ACTUALLY FINISH THIS!'...

>> No.26701859

>>26701788

...how the fuck did that FoW thread link get in there...?

>> No.26703552

>>26701859
magic

>> No.26703848

>>26699064
Its funny that they thought their KS will be the next Zombiecide/Sedition Wars so they had stretch goals ALL THE WAY to 1 million

they arent going to hit anywhere near that, but thank goodness they pulled the image of their old stretchies

>> No.26704090

>>26696920
Wow, I can't believe I haven't looked into the game until now. I'm super stoked for this game now and a little crushed I didn't get into the Kickstarter for it.

>> No.26704148

How many of the models that are all out of stock now on the KDM site are actually usable in game? I saw somewhere that he said the pinup girls aren't, but I don't know about any of the others.

>> No.26704170

>>26704090
Welcome to KS mentality 101

Theres 2 categories of people

>Aww I missed it!

>Aww damn it I have no use for all the shit I bought!

>> No.26704412

>>26704148
In the shop:
Twilight Knight
The Scribe
King's Hand
Whitespeaker Nico
Great Game Hunters Male and Female
Lion Knight 2nd
Flower Knight
I believe both the Male and Female survivor
Sunstalker Infant I think
Butcher, Kingsman
Man Hunter
Gorm

>> No.26704581

>>26704412
Thanks bby

>> No.26705991

>>26704090
Missing out on the Kickstarter only costs you about 150 dollars in the long run if you get all the gameplay stuff. Although some of the stuff like the Messengers are going to be Con exclusives.

>> No.26706166

>>26705991
>Although some of the stuff like the Messengers are going to be Con exclusives.
Yeah, exclusive to people who got conned into Kickstarter.

>> No.26706176

>>26706166
That was actually funny.

>> No.26709065

>>26705991
I actually really liked the models for the 2 kickstarter exclusive Adam and Anna I think and I imagine they'll be super expensive on ebay now.

>> No.26709143

>>26706166
Dohohoho!

>> No.26709756

A 15 mm scale Leviathan next to a 28 mm scale stormtrooper.

>> No.26710159

Rolled 1

>>26704170
this is messing with me, your image. I dont. HOW

>> No.26710208

>>26710159
It's simple math.

>> No.26710245

>>26710159
You're missing the "so do you" part. Person A puts 20 into the box, and sells it for $30. Person B put $20 into the $40 box and buys it for thirty, meaning he contributed a total of $50 and only received $40. Ten dollars, net, are transferred to person A.

>> No.26710307

>>26704090
Hey, I might sell my stuff. Simply because I can't paint and haven't actually started to learn it like I intended to when I pledged and I really don't have the time or interest now. I'm sure other people will do the same. Some got copies of everything too.

>> No.26710348

I donated to the grim dawn kickstarter and I am really worried I will never get the game. They sent an e-mail saying that it has been delayed again due to costs??? Come on the term they used was budgeting too conservativly. Anyone else backed them?

>> No.26710714

>>26710348
tl;dr the kickstarter so correct me if I'm wrong with this assumption. They decided to make a computer game the size and scope of Titan Quest on a $537k budget? And the original goal was $280k? Yeah, no.

>> No.26710961

Has anyone in Australia received their Reaper Minis yet? I'm still waiting on a shipping confirmation.

>> No.26712348

>>26710961

My house mate has received his, but I haven't...

>> No.26713012

>>26696531
>and can take weeks to kill

Depends on the dose. With high enough blasts, you can be a shaking, ass bleeding wreck in minutes. Take Cecil Kelley, for example. He was mixing dissolved plutonium compounds in a tank, when they fissioned (the concentration was too high), causing a burst of radiation. The container kept most out, but Kelley was looking in through a small slit.

He fell to the ground and was disorientated. He ran out and was found in a state of ataxia and only able to say to them, "I'm burning up! I'm burning up!" Within minutes he was unconscious and his skin was turning red. Tests show he was exposed to 36 Gy of radiation. 5 is considered enough to kill. Within 6 hours his white blood cells were all but gone and 24 bone marrow biopsy performed after 24 hours indicated no red blood cells. Despite countless transfusions and treatment, within 36 hours of the incident, he died of heart failure.

>> No.26713946

>>26703848

Yeah, that was a teensy bit optimistic. But to be fair to them, they have been listening to feedback and rehashing the thing constantly ever since. Everyone is allowed to be new at something and fuck up once...

>> No.26715412

September needs to get here faster

>> No.26715978

woo hoo! With 4 days to go Zero Hour is looking pretty good to unlock the next to last stretch goal at least.

>> No.26716260

>>26715978
Ooo nice print of The White Lady in Zero Hour!

>> No.26716466

>>26715412
That's not how you spell 'november'

>> No.26719442

>>26716260
Ha! The game maker just made a couple new pledge levels with a PnP version of the game for people who wanted to play test before everything is finalized and sent out.

I just switched to it because I still get the same stuff + the PnP + I save $3.

Hey, three bucks is three bucks! ;-P

>> No.26722673

>>26716466
swag

>> No.26722772

>>26716466
All Is see when I look at that model's face is an owl face. It makes me like it even more.

>> No.26723061

>>26722772
Hoot hoot, motherfucker!

>> No.26725477

>>26723061
Painting this guy will be a blast

>> No.26726097

don't see anyone talking about Deadzone, I am thinking of upping my pledge to add the strikezone pack instead of just terrain. I've heard differing opinions about the quality of mantic's minis. So far most look pretty good, and I'd love to make the Marauders part of an ork army.

Thoughts?

>> No.26726124

>>26726097
One problem I foresee is mold lines

I hear Mantics Plastic Resin (the things all the deadzone stuff is made of) is a bitch when you're trying to get rid of mold lines

>> No.26726208

>>26697362
Just browse these threads and look at all the mouthbreathers who bought pin-ups. It's kinda gross.

>> No.26726350

>>26716466
God the KD minis are beautiful. I cannot wait til November. Also how hard do you guys think it will be the magnetize the PCs to make some things interchangeable?

>> No.26726648

TINY ZOMBIES!!!!!!!!!!!!

>> No.26728875

>>26726350
Very, as the limbs will be more or less truescale and thus very slim compared to the proportions of your avarage muhreen.

>> No.26729639

>>26728875
Resin - plastic - manchild

>> No.26731187

>>26729639

>> No.26731195

>>26729639
>>26731187
Godamn I love kingdom of death
shame I doubt I'll ever be able to play it

>> No.26731203

>>26731195
Same here.
>SadDragonSacrafice.jpeg

>> No.26731216

>>26731187
>>26731195
>>26731203
That's alright, the game is for 1-6 players. We can all play alone, together.

>> No.26731230

>>26731203
>dat chub
hnnnngh

>> No.26731233

This looks like a Demon's souls game made tabletop game

>> No.26731249

>>26731233
With monster hunter elements like killing bosses for scraps to make armour.

>> No.26731264

>>26731230
Chub is the best kind of cheesecake.

>> No.26732013

What do you guys think of Wrath of Kings? (Couldn't find any mention of it in this thread)

>> No.26732191

>>26715412
Only thing I know is coming in August/September is the second Darklands Kickstarter, What are you waiting for?

>> No.26732215

>>26732191
A new darklands?

YES.

I loved that game as a kid. It's arguably the reason I work in IT now. Though... that says more about the Packard Bell we had and some odd memory requirements than anything.

>> No.26732343

>>26731264
It really is.

>> No.26732363

>>26732013
I want to proxy the red dudes as daemons or warriors of chaos

thanks to the strechy, I can get 18 Ashmen per pack

>> No.26732481

>>26732215
Sorry, this Darklands is a darkage inspired miniature game featuring a lot of monsters

>> No.26733971

sooooooooooooooooooo
http://www.reapermini.com/forum/index.php?/topic/50930-bones-kickstarter-2/

>> No.26733995

>>26732363
>>26732013
I really like the way the underwater dudes look. I mean, they've got a giant crab!
I won't be kicking it, however.

>> No.26734033

>>26732481
That looks goofy and not very interesting, basically. Like 40k but more: is this a joke? Is it actually supposed to be dark?
Same as Kingdom Death or this other thing.
>>26732363
>>26732013

Why are all these kickstarters doing that?

>> No.26734034

>>26697595
>Depends on the maturity of your local playerbase,
Hah!
>and who you count as friends to play it with.
HHHHHAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!

I need new friends.

>> No.26734054

>>26732363
I really like those daemonettes...

>> No.26734077

>>26734033
>it is a style I don't like so it is a joke

>> No.26734088

>>26697595
Caretakers just need to clean and get barfed on. That's a fully grown one and the woman wearing the lion armor (?) was probably trying to loot it.

>> No.26734158

>>26734077
It's a style that isn't serious and I don't know if it's a joke.

>> No.26734175

>>26732363
Them thick titty oni! Do want!

>> No.26734180

>>26734158
How isn't it serious? KD, Wrath of Kings, and Darklands all look serious to me.

>> No.26734241

>>26732481
Ulric the Defiler is gonna be the name and look of my dungeon boss for my next DnD game.

>> No.26734367

>>26733971
I bump what this anon wrote, plus I add in the pic that was discussed in the thread. Question is, will No 2 top No 1?

>> No.26734377

>>26734088
>Caretakers just need to clean and get barfed on.
And avoid getting eaten.

>> No.26734405

>>26734158
W-what is a serious style for toys?

>> No.26734419

>>26734405
Spiky bits, scowling faces and bulging muscles.

>> No.26734422

>>26734405
If it isn't historical it is a joke apparently

>> No.26734507

>>26734367
I'll be pledging at the "best" level (like Vampire for the first one) day one. The faster they make the stretch goals, the more people will pledge, the faster they will make more stretch goals.

>> No.26734607

>>26734507
I wonder how it will be "bigger" and "better" considering how it went last year.

>> No.26734729

>>26734033
I think the monstrous stuff looks pretty sweet

Incoming images...

>> No.26734781

>>26734729

>> No.26734796

>>26734781

>> No.26734820

>>26734796

>> No.26734827

Holy shit CMON is run by a con artist; from Dakka
"New Wave Mail Order was run by David Doust. From 2000-2004 New Wave would offer things for sale that weren't in stock, overcharge credit cards, never ship product, and constantly lie about it (to the tune of having lied about someone dying three times in a year to delay shipping product). The business had literally hundreds of BBB complaints against them. Eventually Doust was investigated by the Georgia State Attorney, and eventually some customers got some money back. It was incredibly bad during the litigation as Doust would actually misquote or edit people's emails and posts on forums to sound like threats; the Editor of The Miniatures Page had to basically provide original unedited entries during litigation. In the end, hundreds of gamers lost money to New Wave and Doust. While this was going on, Doust funnelled the money into creating CMON. Any mention of New Wave or moneys owed were summarily deleted from CMON forums and for a period links to The Miniatures Page's several threads on New Wave were automatically blocked and users attempting to post about it were banned. CMON was founded on Doust scamming wargamers. Now that it's 8 years after that, many have forgotten or don't know about it, but many still refuse to do any business with CMON because they lost money to New Wave. Many also believe New Wave helped to destroy I-Kore (which became Urban Mammoth) as they were also the distributor for their products, making it nearly impossible for Void to purchases in some areas. Most of this is in the public record and there's overwhelming evidence still available on TMP, warseer, rpg.net, and many other forums. I don't believe Doust has ever apologized or tried to rectify in any way for the hundreds if not thousands of people that were scammed by him. PM me and I can send several links containing bunches of info that I sent to RITides when he asked me. "

>> No.26734840

>>26734820

>> No.26734850

>>26734781
Those Troll models are nice

>> No.26734903

>>26734840

>> No.26734935

>>26734903

>> No.26734953

>>26734935

>> No.26734961

>>26734953

>> No.26734979

>>26734180
Bigass goofy axes and people exploding with muscles, just speaking of Darklands. The designs are cartoony as hell but the actual sculpting style is... not realistic, but you know, detailed and careful. The result is kind of incongruous.

>> No.26735004

>>26734979
It is an art style choice. Not everything has to be "realism".

>> No.26735017

>>26734961
And they got a new kickstarter in september, so hopefully they will have some new interesting stuff to show.

>> No.26735023

>>26735004
I know that, and I like plenty of things that aren't realistic, but it's stupid to suggest art style has nothing to do with tone.

>> No.26735030

>>26734961
Is that KS going now? Name?

>> No.26735040

>>26735023
So they want the tone to be grimdark. It isn't my cup of tea, but I certainly wouldn't call them a joke because of that.

>> No.26735049

Finally! I just got confirmation that my stuff has been shipped!

>> No.26735088

>>26735030
Sorry, it's not live any more. But they got a new KS coming up in september

>> No.26735352

I thought Abstract Dungeons was a cool idea, at least the system definitely has potential. I feel like it would work great for a Gamma World type game.

>> No.26735531

So how are you Relic Knight bros going to paint your stuff?
I'm going with Storm Oni blue and White for the Noh, and for the Pirates I think I'll go with traditional Red and black.

>> No.26735542

>>26734607
The bigger could refer to the minis themselves... Vampire level was mostly medium creatures.

>> No.26735661

>>26735531
My Cerci Speed Circuit will be Candy Apple Red with NASCAR decal stickers all over the place.

>> No.26735681

>>26734607
Might be focusing on CAV, their giant robot minis line.

>> No.26735703

>>26735661
I like the sticker idea. Details like that make me really enjoy models. Like tattoos and stuff.

>> No.26735910

>>26734827
That's pretty screwed up, is CMON still run by that guy?

>> No.26735988

>>26735910
Believe so; it's the reason they brought it up in the Kickstarter thread on DakkaDakka

>> No.26736581

>>26735910
>>26735988
Is CMON running a kickstarter?

>> No.26736609

>>26736581
Yes Cool Mini or Not is making Wrath of Kings
>>26732013
>>26732363

>> No.26736737

>>26736609
Ah, better stay clear of that one then.

>> No.26736788

>>26736737
no no support titty models! I need them! Can't hold it against the man forever.

>> No.26737041

>>26736788
Well, I said to another anon in a previous thread the value of doing your own research on a company/person before backing a particular KS, to get an idea of their credibility. And considering if it is true what they say about the CMON founder then it is a point of extreme concern.

>> No.26737072

>>26736737
I don't know anything about a scam artist, but CMON seems to be a big thing lately - they've been very successful and have brought out many quality products such as Super Dungeon Explore, and Zombicide.

>> No.26737081

>>26737041

that is really unfortunate because I am liking Wrath of Kings a lot. It gives me a serious, serious Confrontation vibe...such to the extent that I'd be willing to bet someone who used to be with Rackham is working on it. and that alone is enough to make me interested in a game.

I hope everything works out.

>> No.26737119

>>26737081
I believe Confrontation artists/scuplters are working on this

>> No.26737126

>>26737081
Eh, I wouldn't backed it anyway, even if I didn't know about their credibility issues. Don't have the munies for it.

>> No.26737230

>>26704170
person giving 30 dollars is losing 10$ each time.

>> No.26737278

>ctrl f "toughest girls in the galaxy"
>*DING* NO RESULTS
>ctrl f "raging heroes"
>*DING* *DING* NO RESULTS

so what happened with that toughest girls in the galaxy kickstarter? Wasn't there a bunch of controversy surrounding it? It looked pretty neat to me, but i don't pledge.

Can someone give me the run down on it?

>> No.26737289

I wrote a few question to Mark Mondragon (Dreamforge founder, the one who had the Eisenkern kickstarter) on facebook. Maybe someone is interested in them and the reply:

Anon: I don't know if you are able to answer this, but where there more stretch goals after the Schwarze Witwen squad? And will you launch your game with the next kickstarter (and which I assume will be the second faction you mentioned)?

Mark: The game and the Shadokesh as well as a few more Eisenkern units to fill out that faction are on the drawing board...as well as a few other small suprises. I am not 100% if I will KS the next batch or not. If I do they will need to be 99% complete, i.e. on a boat heading to the USA, I do not want the delays we have now. The problem with waiting to have everything done is that, in this industry you are only as good as your last release, and if it ends up being another 7-9 month wait, that kills excitement and hurts sales.... so I am still punting around what to do.

>> No.26737334

>>26737278
It's been funded with almost 700k
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/loudnraging/raging-heroes-the-toughest-girls-of-the-galaxy

>> No.26737344

>>26696531
stick your head in a microwave and see if it takes weeks for you to die.

>> No.26737352

I think kickstarter is one of the worst things to ever happen to traditional gaming. Does anyone else feel this way?

>> No.26737386

>>26737334
I realize it was funded past its goal and did pretty well. What I was wondering was why was there so much drama surrounding it? I read of a lot of people pulling support near the end and heard a lot of whispers of vaporware. I didn't pay close enough attention to it though to really pick up on what was going on though. Does anyone at least have any info on release or where it will go from here?

>> No.26737387

>>26737352
It is just a giant pre-order platform.

>> No.26737430

>>26737386
Nope people knew Raging Heroes was cheesecake so the usual bitching didn't go anywhere. Questions of vapor ware probably comes from how many projects Raging Heroes has started (they canned their chaos gods project) The release is about a year out (that's 1 year 6 months in Raging Heroes time)

>> No.26737454

>>26737352
Why?

>> No.26737518

>>26737352
wut it's the best thing; it's allowed project that couldn't be done because of the high risk into reality.

>> No.26737560

>>26697357
Huh. Cool.

I guess press is better than no press. (I don't agree that there's no such thing as bad press, but people raging over stupid bullshit, like this or the Tropes vs Women thing kind of is in line with the thought that if you really hate a kickstarter/project, you should shut up about it. And that won't happen.)

Good to hear BBB got funded, anyway. I wasn't really interested in the game, so I gave the kickstarter a pass. Good to hear it still made it.

>> No.26737653

>>26734367
they seem to have lost the goodwill of all international backers, even including those close to the states in Canada. I don't know how much that will hurt them but I think it will have an impact with Bones 2

>> No.26737658

>>26737352
Quite the opposite, I think it has created a marvelous platform for small/medium sized companies to find a playerbase and growth.

>> No.26737746

>>26734367
>Reaper: "It's KS time!"
>My Wallet: "No Reaper, no!"

>> No.26737818

>>26737653
Eh, I just got the confirmation e-mail today, and so did another guy in Sweden.

So at least it's on its way. I might not be able to afford a new Bones KS though, or at least not the same level as last time. Maaaybe a vampire. Depends.

>> No.26737865

>>26737658
I tihnk most these games die before they have hit the shelves. The ADD gamer populace is only backing all these products to sate their "new shiny" appetite. What the rest of us have been left with is a totally saturated kickstarter market and game market.

>> No.26737903

>>26737865
Very few games are 'alive' even before KS. Gaming will always be niche and the best you can do is enjoy it with your circle

>> No.26737921

>People bitch at CMON

>no one bats an eye at Mierce Miniatures

SURE IS DOUBLE STANDARDS HERE

>> No.26737948

>>26737921
>Mierce Miniatures
Aren't they slav shit or polocks or something? No one expects an honest project out of them but their sculpts are good

>> No.26738057

>>26737653
>they seem to have lost the goodwill of all international backers
Ehuhheeeeuhm, yes and no. For me it was fine up until the countdown page was taken down. I got antsy after that. I did recieve confirmation mail today so it is finally on its way. That said, if Bones 2 becomes as good a deal as Bones 1 then I will still pledge for it.

>> No.26738084

>>26737921
Provide info so that we may bitch. I haven't heard about that company and have no clue what kickstarter they might be running.

>> No.26738117

>>26737948
>>26738084
Mierce Minis (the maker of Darklands) are the people who ran Maelstrom

MAELSTROM


And yet people gave money to both CMON and Mierce Minis

AND they have been delivering

Isnt that funny

>> No.26738164

>>26737921
Well Mierce miniatures delivered nicely on their latest kickstarter without any hiccups so not much to bitch about as of now.

>> No.26738207

>>26737352
I don't think it's the worst thing to happen to traditional gaming, but I think it's rather interesting reflection of the human condition to to see the sorts of projects that tend to get funded or overfunded - and the picture can be pretty dark.

>> No.26738993

>>26700179
I'll take it. It's better than nothing in my opinion.

>> No.26740391

Apparently according to a friend, the female power armor are about as big as a Light Warjack from Warmachine.

>> No.26740728

>>26740391
Sounds about right. Can't wait to get my minis. Still wish they had given us the option to buy the rule book separate, but oh well.

>> No.26740777

>>26738117

Hahaha I can't believe that shit funded
I guess no press is bad press unless they spell your name wrong
See also Crystal Dynamics

>> No.26743294

>>26740728
It isn't in the pledge manager?

>> No.26744679

WIERD WARS ROOOOOOME!
www.kickstarter.com/projects/545820095/weird-wars-rome-savage-worlds

Also, Part Times Gods KS is coming out sometime in September, which is wicked exciting for me.

>> No.26746043

>>26735910
IIRC CMon is run by some asian guy these days.

>> No.26748983

>> No.26751071

>>26748983

>> No.26751413

>>26748983
I wish I could paint nice looking gray/white like that.

>> No.26751617

Whats the best KS app for android phones anyways?

Sorry if this is more of a /g/ question

>> No.26754534

>>26751617
I have no idea.

>> No.26754683

>>26737344
Do you have a microwave that can be activated with an opened door or is cutting off your head part of the trial?

>> No.26754946

>>26754683
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jj5CG9kzDYY

>> No.26755041

>tfw it's still not November yet
My body needs Kingdom Death

>> No.26755063

>>26755041
wake me up when november comes

>> No.26755160

>>26755041
>>26755063
shiiit, I'm going to be getting a lot of minis in November. I only put about 150 into KD, but I'm supposed to get my first Rivet Wars shipment plus Relic Knights and Arena Rex that month. And maybe also more Dreamforge and shit.

>> No.26755450

>>26755160
>KD
>Dreamforge
My body will be so fucking ready

>> No.26755535

Ugh... there's this really cool board game I played a month ago - we played with the designer, and he swore he'd be ready to kickstart it by this point.

It's a game about robots on a manned spaceship who've had a bad software update, so they decide to test a few things, like what'd happen if somebody opened all the doors on the spaceship. Anybody know what I'm talking about?

>> No.26756047

whats the ETA on Trollforge

or is it "whenever"

>> No.26756705

>>26754534
could these be used for IG?

>> No.26756756

What is the deal with Dreamforge games. I always hear them touted as some GW rival that can produce better minis for cheaper, but whenever I look up their site they have like 1 product and some vaporware. DO they actually produce anything? Have they in the past?

>> No.26756995

>>26756705
gee I wonder

>>26756756
> DO they actually produce anything?

I dunno, ask these vendors

http://www.miniaturemarket.com/table-top-miniatures.html?cat=980
http://www.thewarstore.com/DreamForgeGames.html
http://www.waylandgames.co.uk/dreamforge-games/cat_1657.html

>> No.26757054

>>26756756
They're only just moving into plastics now. I have a few boxes of the stormtroopers and they're definitely on par with GW quality; maybe not so much into the fine detail but that's less a matter of quality and more of style/design. I really regret not pledging for one of the big robots, but from what I hear it's quite a bit better than what you get from GW at the same price.

>> No.26757219

>>26756995
thanks. they certainly are a lot cheaper! They should make more HQ type units and vehicles.

>> No.26761009

>>26757219
Everything is cheaper than GW

>> No.26761118

>>26734367
HOLY MOTHER OF THE EMPEROR!

I can't, i just can't. My wallet can't handle it...

Ok, if it has more non-fantasy stuff, and hopefully a lot of CAV stuff, then im on board. But if it's all more 90% pathfinder/fantasy/warlord etc, then most likely no.

>> No.26765285

>>26756705
They are 28 mm scale, so yes. However, GW use heroic scale and the Eisenkern are truescale so if you mix IG and EK it will look a bit wonky.

>> No.26765400

>>26756756
>>26757219
Dreamforge is still producing and delivering from the success of its kickstarter. Everything was broken down in three stages and currently only stage one has shipped (Stormtroopers, Stormtroopers accessory set, Eisenkern support weapon squads and the Leviathan (essentially a plastic titan with swappable weapons)), stage two (The Mortis (close combat titan, both 15 mm and 28 mm scale versions), six new weapons for the titans and 15 mm scale Leviathan) is nearing completion and will likely ship within a month or two. The third stage has Eisenkern Command Squad, Valkir Heavy Troopers (not-space marines), Heavy Trooper Support Weapon squad (not-devestators), Heavy Trooper Assault squad, the APC, a few upgrades for the APC, and female tank hunter squad.

>> No.26765417

>>26732013
Kind of funny/sad that it's not being met with as much enthusiasm as other Kickstarters.

I guess people are tuckered out.

Also, I don't think anyone besides CMON is involved in its production, so there's no way to avoid the "I will be giving money to the people responsible for New Wave Entertainment" feeling.

>> No.26766497

>>26738207

Right? I want to give every nerd that backed that Tentacle Bento game a righteous swirlie.

>> No.26767535

>>26766497
What would you do to the people that backed Schoolgirls Love Tentacles?

>> No.26768008

>>26767535
Is this an ERP hookup thread?

>> No.26768431

>>26732013
>>26732363

Looks pretty cool. seems kind of like Warmachine except killing the leader while a good idea isn't the be all and end all of the entire game. I also like that the turn limit is fluid.

Seriously think I might back this.

>>26735531

I was thinking blue and white for the Oni too, black for the Black Diamond obviously, not to sure about the Knights though. Pondering whether or not to do something different, and if so what or to just stick with knightly metalics.

>> No.26768462

>>26737352

>I think GW is one of the worst things to ever happen to traditional gaming. Does anyone else feel this way?

FTFY

>> No.26768561

>>26765417
>there's no way to avoid the "I will be giving money to the people responsible for New Wave Entertainment" feeling

Not giving a shit about internet neckbeard drama over how their hobby is a business like any other and not a giant hug box is a start.

The only difference between a con man and a business man is that one of them got caught.

>> No.26768626

>>26768561
The difference between a con man and a business man is the latter actually delivers the product you paid too much for and the other doesn't.

>> No.26770095

>>26768626
Well, good thing everyone got Zombicide and Super Dungeon Explore just fine.

>> No.26770686

>>26770095
super dungeon explore never went through kickstarter. WTF r u talking about?

Tentacle bento tried KS, but was removed for promoting rape.

Relic knights did a succesful KS, but is late, but this is perfectly normal for soda pop miniatures.

>> No.26770702

>>26770095
>Super Dungeon Explore

Was this actually on KS? i thought the whole reason Relic Knights ended up on KS was because Soda Pop had spent all their dollars on SDE.

>> No.26770950

I want muh stage 3 items

>> No.26771008

>>26770950

>> No.26771013

>>26771008

>> No.26771089

>>26771013
>a transport that actually has room for the ten-or-so occupants it's supposed to
That thing must be HUGE.

>> No.26771181

>>26771089
I got some measurments in pic related

>> No.26771186

>>26771181

>> No.26771193

>>26771186

>> No.26771202

>>26771193

>> No.26771307

>>26696531
Holy fuck guys, does no one know that microwaves are a non-ionizing form of radiation? Shit, listening to you guys, turning on a lamp would give you cancer. This dragon will just boil you from the inside and make all your metal spark.

>> No.26771471

>>26770686
>promoting rape
ThisIsATrollPost.jpg

Tentacle bento finished thru their own KS front and Indiegogo (making even more money lol censorship = viewers)
Same with Girls love tentacles.

>> No.26771478

>>26770950
See you in 2015. They barely finish shipping stage 1

>> No.26771674

>>26771478
Stage 1 shipped a few months ago and stage 2 will be shipped in another month or two.

>> No.26771712

>>26771471
Yes but it was on kickstarter first, but got removed because feminists cried. They then went and took it to indiegogo because that place has absolutely no standards beyond obvious nonos

>> No.26771765

>>26771712
>T.Bento got killed
>Kingdom Death stayed
Why?

>> No.26771859

>>26771765
Apparently t bento promoted rape culture, but kingdom death didn't.

I know right

>> No.26771952

>>26771765
>>26771859
However, there's now a consentacle game, so it all works out.

>> No.26771966

>>26756995
So that kit comes with 9 dudes, 3 bases and 3 HW per type, right? Don't know about the quad guns, but those autocannons and mortars would have a good place in my Guard. The rest I could probably sell easily enough.

>> No.26771986

>>26771859
I haven't read up on t bento so correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't tentaclesex/rape part of the game mechanics? Not that I care one bit if it is, I'm just saying that if my question is true then the femenists at least had a point this time around.

Again, I don't really care at all and I think they have bigger issues to deal with.

>> No.26772002

>>26771966
>not wanting the quad guns
Heretic, you just went full traitor.

>> No.26772046

Why mantic

why you take my money to make terribad things

>> No.26772079

>>26772046
Wow those are bad.

>> No.26772118

>>26771966
The HW kit, that is.

>> No.26772153

>>26772002
For what would I use them for? They're way too small as aegis quad autocannons (and I already got 2 of them), and a quad sabre...

>> No.26772181

>>26772153
I would use them as count-as heavy golter

>> No.26772188

>>26772153
Heavy Bolter

>> No.26772199

>>26772079
yup

mantic has some design issues

>> No.26772213

>>26772046

I like those...im sorry :(

I like their Skeletons and their Basilians, think those are pretty darned good models.

Hate the zombies, indifferent on the orcs, and wish the twilight elves were not just a conversion kit.

>> No.26772220

>>26772199
And I thought the first run Hordes werewolves were bad.

>> No.26772303

>>26771859
The only sexual gameplay element I can think of in KD is consensual sex for the purpose of reproduction. Showing naked ladies doesn't promote rape culture. The monsters with dicks and vaginas all over them don't actually rape anyone. The only mention of rape in the universe (not the actual game on kickstarter) is a female who will rip of your penis.
I don't know what tentacle bento wanted to be but bringing up KD is retarded.

>> No.26772311

>>26772181
>>26772188
I already got heavy bolters. I've been looking for an alternative for the autocannon. Those fit the bill perfectly. The shield also makes them visually similar to my quad guns, which I also fitted with shields like that.

Mortars are fine too, since I've wanted a more techy looking ones over the same old IG ones.

>> No.26772313

>>26696310
Did anyone here kickstart the Toughest Girls in the Galaxy?

I'm waiting on that and Project Eternity.

>> No.26772350

>>26772199
Where's the fur?

>> No.26772366

>>26772313
I'm afraid not. I wanted to but I just didn't have any money when it ran.

>> No.26773543

>>26771986
it's a card game, apparently akin to rummy.

there is no rape mechanic, you just have to "collect" schoolgirls
the player is supposed to represent a viscous tentacle space alien.
It is never said what you actually do to the captured schoolgirls.

>> No.26773580

>>26772199
You get what you pay for.
Mantic sells premium models at premium price.
that translates as:
We sell shit models on the cheap.

Why did you ever expect any better?

>> No.26773623

>>26773580
but they have proven they can do decent to good stuff

much like gw

>> No.26773921

>>26768561
I see you never had to deal with New Wave before they shut down.

There's a difference between "This company makes business decisions I disagree with" and "This company lists preorders as in stock and then doesn't ship your items until months after it's already shown up in other places."

>> No.26774804

Zero Hour: Survival Horror Card Game is in the last 29 hours!!!!

>> No.26777343

>>26774804
What about it?

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