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24326701 No.24326701 [DELETED]  [Reply] [Original] [4plebs] [archived.moe]

Why haven't you joined the Greater Good, Gue'la?

>> No.24326732

Because I am actually the Earth Caste who gives Shadowson her drones.

... and I don't think she would return my massive forbidden love for her.

>> No.24326769
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>>24326701

Because they changed shoulderguns for hand guns.

Chaos up in this motherfucker.

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>>24326701
BECAUSE FUCK YOU YOU FUCKING ASSHAT XENO ILL CUT YOU AND YOUR FANCY SUIT INTO TINY PIECES YOU DICKNIPPLE. AND ALL THOSE HIGH AND MIGHTY ETHEREALS YOU LOVE THEY ARE GONNA GET TURNED INTO CHOW FOR MY HOUNDS

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>>24326701
Too much fun setting up "cultural exchanges" with you naive retards.

>> No.24326837

>>24326701
Wait... what happened with the broadside's shoulder railguns...?

>> No.24326939

Because my name is Jerry, not Gue'la.

Jerry.

>> No.24326985

I've been too busy giving the greater good to your females. You know they prefer Gue'la men right?

>> No.24327023

Because I'm not sure if my primarch or the Emperor would condone it, and I can't do anything without their express permission because I am a mindless plebe.

Just kidding, it's because Space Marines are fucking awesome.

>> No.24327279
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>>24326939
You have to earn a personal name. For now you are Gue'vesa Nig'a

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>>24326985
>>24326985
>>24326985

>> No.24327653
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24327653

Only if there's a blueberry to win.

>> No.24327694

>>24326732
you could build your very own shadowsun out of drone spare parts, you know. All you have to do is join Slaanesh.

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>>24326701
Because I sold all my Tau and Grey Knights, and didn't buy the 6th ed rulebook.

Now I use my only remaining army to play pic-related.

>> No.24328229

>>24327694

.... I don't know if I would be able to get her righteous fury on my own, and what I know of.... Slaanesh's kin (I believe the man himself was killed in a fight with our forces), they can't get that down.

>> No.24328244
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24328244

Because your messengers won't give us any plasma weapons to attack the Imperium with.

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24328388

Because turncoat humans are usually these guys, xeno.

>> No.24328632

Honestly, because I find the new codex unplayable in my local metagame.

>> No.24328668

>>24328244
Lol... I just thought the nightlords would make the most realistic Tau ally army.

I can easily believe they would Merc themselves out for a fixed ship or a full haul of new human slaves.

Totaly doing this now with my farsight army.

>> No.24328702

We did.

Our GM was so mad

>> No.24328713
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24328713

because you cant beat them newcrons man

>> No.24328733

>>24328713
I catch you again posting a picture of oldcrons while saying newcrons are cool.

>> No.24328758

>>24326701
Already have. The auxiliary regiment covering your east flank? Yeah.

>> No.24328822

>>24328758
Oh shit, you're one of those guys? Drinks are on me during our 15 minute Ethereal-mandated break during the post-combat resting phase!

>> No.24328841

>>24328822
Too bad taus only drink sugar-free fruit smoothies because anything else wouldn't be healthy.

>> No.24328860

>>24328841
Doesn't the codex, or another source, mention a tau liquor that's pretty hard?

>> No.24328877

>being blue
>not being green

>> No.24328886

>>24328860
The Tau empire will never be as efficient as walmart.

>> No.24328955
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24328955

Aw, they still use FTL travel. How cute.

>> No.24328965

>>24328860
Ky'husa
it's best served warm in one gulp. Probably their equivalent of sake.

>> No.24329006

tell me if this is legal:

O'Shovah
7 Crisis Bodyguard, each model has Plasma Rifle, Plasma Rifle, ATS
Regular XV8 Commander with Command and Control Node, Multi-spectrum Sensor Suite, Iridium Suit, Onager Gauntlet

Deepstrike with no scatter and then shoot 30 Twin-Linked, Ignores Cover Plasma Rifle shots? Then Thrust away?

>> No.24329015

>>24328860

Yes, the first earlier Codex has Water Caste getting drunk with his human buddy in a bar.

Also there is a nother scene in the Codex where Fire Warriors drink a hot alcohol beverage called Ky'husa after they complete their bonding ritual.

>>24328841
>Didn't read any Tau fluff
>Yet feels free to make a false statement of.

WHY PEOPLE DO THIS!?

>> No.24329084

>>24329006
>Plasma Rifle, Plasma Rifle
You can't buy two of the same weapon. If you buy two, it just becomes twin-linked. And before someone says "BUT IT DOESN'T SAY YOU CAN'T HURR", it doesn't say you can't do a lot of things, but that doesn't mean I can plop a house cat down on the table and declare that any models it eats count as destroyed.

>> No.24329113

Sterilization.

As I guy who dreams of having a family one day, I find it abhorrent and disgusting that the Tau Empire would go to lengths to deny others the right to have children.

This makes them my most hated faction. Screw them, really.

>> No.24329132 [DELETED] 

>>24329113
the only people who don't deserve having children are those who want some. You have to be fucked up to want those things.

>> No.24329137

>>24329113

Not canon. The same game has Khorne Sorcerers.

>> No.24329174

>>24329137
the fluff is contradicting itself? IMPOSSIBLE

fuck you, Khorne sorcerers were mentioned in the first Warhammer RPG edition, and Khorne doesn't go prevent his followers from using magic, he just doesn't like it and sorcerers don't go sponatenously towards him.

>> No.24329251
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24329251

Because you would never let me as close to delicious Earth Caste blueberries as the guevesa in this picture.

>> No.24329267

>>24326701
Why would we join a coalition of inferior species?

>> No.24329292

>>24329006
Legal? Yes. The best/silliest you can do? Not by a long shot. I came up with this earlier today:

Farsight - 165 pts

Shadowsun and all three drones - 195pts

7 Bodyguards - 637pts
- 1 with Plasma, Fusion, Flamer, and two drones (91pts)
- 5 with Target Lock, Fusion, Flamer, and two drones (81pts each)
- 1 with Flamer, Drone Controller, Vectored Retros, Neuroweb, CnC Node, Multi-Spectrum Sensors, Puretide Chip, Repulsor Field, Onager Gauntlet, and two drones (141pts)

10 Sniper Kroot - 70pts

10 Sniper Kroot - 70pts

Space Marine Librarian Ally - 185pts
-Epistolary, Terminator Armour, Combi-Melta. Gate and Null Zone.

5 Marine Sniper Scouts - 75pts

Aegis Line + Quadgun - 100pts

Total: 1497 points

When it drops it fires 9 Melta Guns, rerolling to-hit, Tank Hunters, only three of which must be at the same target.
All the shooting are rerolling to-hit Ignores Cover, with 10 guns at AP 2 or better, and forces invulnerable saves to reroll.
It's escorted by 17 Drones. A few will be shield drones, but most should be gun drones (with BS3). They'll put out around 20 Pinning Pulse rounds.
Shadowsun gives everything a 4+ Cover Save in the open. More if there's cover, such as the wrecks of the tanks you melta'd.
It can teleport 24" each turn without scattering, from Gate+Farsight.
It carries 7 Flamers for baking infantry with, and turns overwatch into a living hell.
If it does get assaulted, it has Hit and Run at the Librarian's Initiative 4.
Everything not in the Bomb, Infiltrates. Generally into a little annual-snipers-picnic at the back on some objectives.
If you're worried about all the troops dying before it arrives, you can just deploy normally and teleport your way to the front.
Automatically passes LoS rolls, so keep the characters at the front to pass wounds to the ball of drones in the middle. A triangle formation works well.

So yeah. Farsight Bomb is always a thing.

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>>24328877
>why not both.jpWAAAGH

>> No.24329372

>>24329084

hott - i never thought about Null Zone to basically nullify the only save they would have left. props brah

>>24329292

I do have to ask where you reading that two weapons become 1 twin-linked weapon.

>> No.24329377

>>24329251
According to the Deathwatch material.

The Tau found a society of science loving humans and recruited them into their Empire. Now they work with the Earth Caste to produce SCIENCE!

Are you a scientist, anon?

>> No.24329416

>>24329084
Um. I thought it said in the rules "One price = Single Weapon" "Second Price = Twin-linked".

It then mentions Twin-linked = Takes up two choices. You can take three weapons. Which is interesting. I think Crisis Suits get 3 Choices of both weapons and Support Systems.

I was planning on a 1000/1500 Tau List with 1000/1500 Eldar Allies. Then 1500/2000 Imperial Guard and 500/1000 Sisters of Battle.

Going to get x3 Riptides at least. Ah well, going to work on a list and get my mate to do it for me...

Well, gotta wait on Eldar update after High Elves next month.

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24329425

but I did

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>>24326701

because my mecha is better than your mecha.

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>>24329425
>colored versions of all these
I'm hype,

>> No.24329466

>>24329372
Page 95:
>Where a weapon has two points costs, the first is for a standard, single version, and the second is for two weapons (counting as a twin-linked weapon of that type) . A twin-linked weapon counts as two choice from this list.

Shit son, did you even read the codex?

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>>24329440
Well thats just not fair. Nothing beats the literal-cockpit Orbital Frames

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>>24329377
As always, science shows us the way to a better tomorrow.

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>>24329481
Almost nothing

>> No.24329622

>>24329440
Yeah... once you start bending the fabric of reality just to store your extra weapons and move around faster, nothing else really comes close any more.

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>>24326701
I did but you dicks kicked me out just because I accidentally a third sphere planet.

>> No.24332016

>>24328955
Look at it this way, longear. They have a method of FTL that DOESN'T involve sailing through a ocean of living mindrape to get from point a to point b.

>> No.24332064

>>24327300
What are you? Mentally inept and undeserving of being called a man?
Closet cultists, the lot of you.

>> No.24332123

>>24332016
>Not travelling purely by generation ship
>013.M41

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>mfw my fire warrior's sprues are unequal to the torsos, 4 torsos and 5 heads, including the Shas'ui's head.
I fucked up, haven't I?

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24332143

Am I to understand that with the new marerlight rules, an individual token is consumed to increase the BS of EVERY units firing at it instead of one BS bump for one unit per token?

>> No.24332158

>>24332136
No, you're just given the option of giving some of your FWs heads without helmets
Generally the idea is to use these to make the Shas'Uis obvious.

>> No.24332161

>>24332136
>what is extra heads

>> No.24332174

>>24332136
each kit has enough for 12 warriors
>>24332143
a unit can spend the marker light to bump the units BS skill and unless the marker light is the super special one the unit firing the amrkerlight cannot spend it.

>> No.24332186
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24332186

No thanks, I'm already a member of a society using giant fighting robots split into five castes

>> No.24332207

>>24332136

They have those 'Ui heads in case you somehow believe that it's a smart idea that everyone would keep their helmets on in the heat of battle.

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>>24332158
>>24332174
Alrighty then.
I already glued four with helmets and Pulse Rifles, so what you guys are saying is, that at least one Shas'ui is allowed in a squad (team)? Pretty stumped right now, I should of went with Orks by now. inb4 I'm stupid for saying this

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>>24326701
Because your ignorance of things offends me, pitiful xeno.

Now excuse me, I have deamons to kill.

>> No.24332259

Because I like my reproductive system the way it is, thanks.

>> No.24332265

>>24332220
Yes, option of one per squad, as it says in the Codex. You can choose to give him a helmet or not. Don't confuse the limitations and allowances of the sprues with the unit's rules.
Orks have a sergeant of their own in the form of Nobz anyway.

>> No.24332310

Is it legit you think to get the pathfinder kit and make one of them into darkstrider. Since Darkstrider looks just like a pathfinder.

>> No.24332328

>>24332207
That is always the trick though, how to make your squad leaders stand out on the tabletop without making them look that they are just making the job of enemy snipers easier.

In my case, I have two shas'ui, both with helmets off, but both with reason to and still have their helmets with them. I took a few spare fire warrior heads, and carved out the back and inside of them with a dremel tool to make an empty helmet. One shas'ui uses the arms from a Tau tank commander so he has his helmet off to look through binoculars (the helmet is behind his head clipped to his backpack.) The other shas'ui has his helmet off so he can take a clearer look at the scanner in his hand (his helmet is held in his offhand, where I even painted a little heads-up display on the inside of it.) Both shas'ui have their pulse rifles clipped back to the sides of their backpacks so they are present but out of the way.

I think that this works because it is easy for me and my opponent to tell who is the leader in each squad, but they otherwise blend in with them and do not look like they are equipment-deficient or advertising their rank.

>> No.24332335

>£30 codex
>£50 for a six inch model

I really wanted to, I really did.

>> No.24332349

>>24332220
I don't even use the unhelmeted heads for my shas'ui, I just give them a different paint job. As long as they are distinguishable. And yeah, 1 shas'ui can (optionally) be in a team.

>> No.24332384

>>24332328
I like the new pathfinder kit, have his helmet off + he has the new bonding knife model on him + a spare pistol + a slightly different back pack.
Their is also another model without a helmet looking through binoculars while his other hand is fiddling with his atena thing on his head.

>> No.24332408

>>24332310
As long as you do a good job of the model and you're not playing with rule nazis, go for it

>> No.24332432

>>24332335
Well the Codex is a nice hardback now, so that sort of justifies that part
But yeah, find yourself a cheaper online store for your models

>> No.24332502

>>24332432
Sure it's hardback now, but there's still no option for a cheaper version legitimately (not an anti-piracy fag or anything, but I prefer physical copies) and I don't think going hardback deserves more than double the price of an old one (still thought they were expensive at £12).

>> No.24333413

>>24332502
>convert 30 pounds to my currency

Bitch that isn't even expensive. I pay that much for softcover codices. And buy at 25% off, ya git.

>> No.24333507

>>24333413
Well to me £30 for a 104 page picture book is pretty expensive.

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>>24332228

>> No.24333549

>>24333507

You should be able to get it for 22.5 pounds unless your country doesn't have 25% discount webstores.

>> No.24333563

>>24333549
Well £25 including shipping, which is better. But considering it's really a mandatory purchase (if you want to play the game anyway) I'm still not comfortable plunking down that much change for it.

>> No.24334256

What do Tau think of Astartes in particular? Wouldn't they seem utterly terrifying? Humans are barbaric enough, now double their height and stick them in armour similar to a stealthsuit in sturdiness and make them battle mad zealots who drop out of the sky on top of you screaming about their god figure.

>> No.24334276

>>24334256
>What do Tau think of Astartes in particular?
they think "wow that is a big hum-"
and then they get a bolt round through the brain.

>> No.24334279

>>24334256
>What do Tau think of Astartes in particular?

To them they are mythical warriors of the Imperium. The best of the best of the Gue'la warriors.

The Fire Caste are awed by them and respect their power which is why they are always excited to test their abilities against these powerful soldiers and prove themselves and the Greater Good superior.

>> No.24334288

>>24334256

I bet the first time they saw one take off his helmet would have scared them.

They probably thought it WAS a battlesuit.

>> No.24334308
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KHORNE CARES NOT WHERE THE BLOOD FLOWS FROM! SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE, BROTHERS! SLAY THESE COWARDLY CREATURES WHO CAN NAUGHT BUT RUN FROM AN HONORABLE CHALLENGE!

>> No.24334314

>>24334256
Their word for them translates to engineered human warriors.

They probably think they are monsters.

>> No.24334333

>>24334314

And the most monstrous space marines they've encountered are Black Templars...

Just imagine when they encounter Space Wolves or Flesh Tearers or Sons of Antaeus.

>> No.24334337

>>24326828
They did that once. Stop wanking, grimdark mcedgyfag.

>> No.24334338

>>24334333
>Wolves

They already encountered the Wolves Unda the SEA!

>> No.24334346

>>24334333
>>24334308

Wouldn't it be hilarious if Tau assumed chaos marines were Imperium soldiers?

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>>24334308
>HONORABLE CHALLENGE!

Dex says Spehss Marine captains consider them honorable combatants, worthy of respect.

>> No.24334351

>>24326701
Because you don't let me use those fucking awesome exo suits, xeno.

>> No.24334352

>>24334338

Oh, yeah, didn't they get violently assraped by burly vikings wearing SCUBA Terminator armor, so hard they left the damn planet altogether?

>> No.24334362

>>24334352

>scuba space wolf terminators doggy paddling

>> No.24334363

>>24334346
given their ignorance they probably think so.

they probably think they're from a spiker part of the imperium.

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>>24334346
Except they've already encountered the greatest of all space marines.

I doubt they'll be surprised by anything anymore.

>> No.24334374

>>24334352
Yep.

First time I knew that the Landraiders can double as Submarines!

>> No.24334375

>>24334363
>>24334346

>Tau arrange for some 'peace talks'
>Imperial dispatch arrives at the chamber
>Huron is sitting across the table
>he laughs and winks.

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>>24326701
because mine's bigger.

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>>24334348

A HONORABLE CHALLENGE IS FOUGHT BLADE TO BLADE UNDER KHORNE'S WATCHFUL GAZE, COWARD! SANGUIS EXTREMIS!!!

(This being said, indeed, loyalist Marines and Tau consider each other honorable opponents.)

>> No.24334412

>>24334398
Then explain the Teeths of Khorne, heretic!

>> No.24334415

>>24334348
It doesn't make sense because their idea of honour is the opposite.
Space marines is to keep pushing forward while taking losses. Tau is to run away and not take losses.

>> No.24334423

>>24334348
Isn't that just the Ultras?

>> No.24334478

>>24334423
i think that fluff was just in rumors. like that whole ultras protecting the tau.

was it ever confirmed?

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>>24334412

If by "Teeth of Khorne" you mean the various Daemon Engines and their ranged weaponry, it's precisely to deal with those that hide behind walls and refuse close quarters.

Khorne favors those who claim skulls at the blade of their axe, but that doesn't means he reneges a good cannon.

>> No.24334491

>>24334423
Nope.

Most Marines, I think. White Scars, Iron Warriors, Raptors etc etc...

All Marines who fought them.

>> No.24334495

>>24334314
>>24334256
>>24334279
>"Surgically modified human corpses animated by pumping them full of random chemicals with primitive and often cobbled together cybernetics. Impressive in combat but otherwise horribly inefficient and ultimately not cost effective."
From Fire Warrior.

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>>24326701
Nah, I'm hanging out somewhere else.

>> No.24334502

>>24334478
Nope because THE ZEIST!

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>>24334346
>I think that last target had more spikes than skulls.
>Neat.
Considering the Tau have a unified and efficient government and only offer to negotiate ONCE, if they thought chaos marines were imperium they'd just shoot them on sight without bothering to negotiate.

>> No.24334533

>>24334516
>ONCE

They offer you the option of joining them many times. Did you forget that they tried many times with the Orks before giving up?

>> No.24334564

>>24334495

What, they think Space Marines are servitors?

>> No.24334580

>>24334564
After vivisection and dissection of captured space marines, yes.

>> No.24334597

>>24334495
Sounds like description of servitors, to be honest

>> No.24334601

>>24334564

No, from their point of view it's pretty spot-on. Humanity has the numbers to cull the very best from a large base of candidates, and enhance them through a extremely complicated and costy program of biological re-engineering that takes the average Tau's lifespan to come to full fruition.

The word "corpse" in that sentence should read "body" btw.

>> No.24334605

>>24334580
Considering the damage one squad of Deathwatch did while trying to capture an Ethereal, I think they may be a bit off on the inefficient part, but then again these are the same critters that thought they killed the god of excess.

>> No.24334623

>>24334601
Not that many use cybernetics unless they lost an eye or limb though...or they're from one of the Mechanicus-affiliated chapters.

>> No.24334624

>>24334605

They probably mean inefficient in the sense of resources and time that goes into training them.

Course Tau never experienced GC humanity....

>> No.24334626
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24334626

>>24326701
Because I live in another segmentum and would have gone my whole life not knowing about some tiny clutch of stars apparently called an empire.

>> No.24334634

>>24334626

Is it only firstborn sons or firstborn in general on Vostroya?

>> No.24334641

>>24334605
>same critters that thought they killed the god of excess.

Why do people act they the Tau know who Slaanesh is? They thought they killed a guy named Slaanesh and didn't brag around that they killed a god or something.

In the Imperium only a few people know of Slaanesh. So blaming the Tau for not knowing who is Slaanesh is kinda silly.

>> No.24334662

Tau?
met them once, when they tried to make my tombworld their first sphere sept. Disintegrated them, went back to sleep.

>> No.24334665

>>24334495
Fire warriors a bit out of date isnt it? Is that even specifically talking about marines?

>> No.24334666

>>24334641
Should I bring up their dealing with the DE and the Necrons too?

>> No.24334672

>>24334626
Rumors of the Tau have reached all over the Imperium. Even the High Lords and the Inquisition are wary of them.

Chances are that your nobles have in their possessions all manner of Tau Tech. I doubt you are not using some right now.

>> No.24334681

>>24334634
She's not vostroyan. Just some Imperial Noblewoman.

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>>24326701

I have a question for you, xeno - dare you attack my demonic fortress?

>> No.24334695

>>24334665
Yes, it is.

Try Sanctuary of Wyrms to see a veteran Tau Fire Warrior reaction to the Space Marines.

>> No.24334703

>>24334690
>http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Forgefane#.UXEbwqL0kmk

>Masters of Siege they said

>> No.24334709

>>24334690

Perhaps, but the real question is? Dare you leave that beautiful forteress you've been sitting on your ass in since 3 millenia and actually take his fortress down?

Iron Within, Iron Without, Brother, but there are days I think you Iron Warriors should tink less about fortifying your assets and more about destroying our foe's assetrs....

>> No.24334729

>>24334709
But the Chaos Gods won't let them.

The last time the Iron Warriors wanted to make a grand army of Daemon Engines the Chaos Gods wrecked their shit hard.

>> No.24334731

>>24334703

Yeah, well, shit happens...

Anyway, notice how the fates have put a great distance between Chaos Marine infested systems and the septs of the Tau Empire.

Other then the Blood Tithe incident, the pathetic xeno scum had no good chance to taste how a warp fueled bolter round tastes.

>> No.24334734

>>24329377
Yes but i'm loyal to the bigger mind controlling empire of bureaucratic retards, they got a couple millennium more knowledge behind them.

>> No.24334755

>>24334709

Sons of Perturabo are masters of siege first, not masters of being besieged later. They leave their fortress worlds all the time to bring ruin to the works of the Corpse God. Hydra Cordatus, Medusa, Cadian sector.

>> No.24334761

>>24334703
>Forgefane boasted some of the most formidable defenses ever seen; massive citadels and bastions covered the landscape; each protected by miles of trenches, mine fields and razorwire as well as void shields and vast quantities of ordinance.

*raise hand* How the fuck could a handful of Chaos Marines handle that much fort? How big is a Grand Company anyway.

>> No.24334768

>>24334731
The Tau Empire has the misfortune of being next to a Warp Rift. That Warp Rift vomits Chaos Fleets and other horrors from time to time and the Tau Fleets take care of them.

>Other then the Blood Tithe incident

Dark Crusade and the Soulstorm!

>> No.24334799

>>24334641

>In the Imperium only a few people know of Slaanesh

Except for the bajillions of heretic cults.

>> No.24334800

>>24334768

other that video games examples? (that are never mentioned in any codex whatsoever?)

>The Tau Empire has the misfortune of being next to a Warp Rift. That Warp Rift vomits Chaos Fleets and other horrors from time to time and the Tau Fleets take care of them.

Sauce? 'cause I've been seriously looking through Chaos Marines and Tau books for some instance of any engagements between the two, and only found the Blood Tithe incident.

>> No.24334807

>>24334666
Should I bring up the fact that the main, if not only, source of information on "Xenos" the imperium has was written by a Necron Lord Deceiver for the express purpose of destabilizing the Imperium with misinformation. And the Imperium knows this. And still uses Xenology as it's "go to" reference on aliens because even though it's entirely made up of falsehood and lies, it's a better source of information than what they had before since the Necron at least used the correct names.

>> No.24334821

>>24334605
Considering one Firewarrior killed several hundred space marines, yeah, inefficient.

>> No.24334823

>>24334807
The only thing a true soldier of the Imperium needs to know is how to kill them.

http://youtu.be/4csrtUHiRYc

>> No.24334830

>>24334605
A titan is powerful. But it's a idiotic joke as far as efficient expenditure of resources.

>> No.24334834

>>24334807

I disagree. There are Magos Xenologists/Magos Biologists who study the alien artifacts/species themselves and then the Imperium use that data.

Many methods of fighting the Tyranid threat is based on their recent discoveries. And they have to be recent, considering the fact how fast the Hive minions adapt.

>> No.24334845

>>24334821
That never happened.

>>24334830
And yet these are the best linebreakers and terror weapons in the galaxy.

>> No.24334846

>>24334695
Could you describe that reaction?

>> No.24334855

>>24334821

Ok guys, let's forget about "Fire Warrior", ok? It's a video game, and an fps one. They are always about one guy killing hundreds of others.

Next thing I'll hear is that the Americans should have sent only one soldier to fight the WWII because that's what happened in the Call of Duty series.

Some perspective, please, even if we're dealing with a fictional grimdarkasfuck setting.

>> No.24334861

>>24334761
Anywhere from 100 to a few thousand traitor marines. It really varies.

>> No.24334863

>>24334800
>other that video games examples? (that are never mentioned in any codex whatsoever?)

I think there are mention of the Tau kicking out Chaotic forces outside their borders alongside the Hrud and other resistant Alien factions.

Gonna check it now.

>Sauce? 'cause I've been seriously looking through Chaos Marines and Tau books for some instance of any engagements between the two, and only found the Blood Tithe incident.

In the older Codex there is mention of a Warp Anomaly in the Perdus Rift. The Tau fleets guard that Anomaly because from time to time unspeakable things pass out of it.

>> No.24334877

>>24334855
when emperor hirohito first came to America after the war the person he wanted to meet first was John Wayne.

He said he wanted to meet the man who killed so many of his solders.

>> No.24334883

>>24334877

Hehehe, didn't know that.

But yeah, see what happens? lol

>> No.24334896

>>24334666
Should I bring up that the Imperium can't tell the difference between Dark Eldar and Craftworlders.

Should I bring up that the Imperium think the Necrons are not a threat and that they are just small remnants of a dying race?

There is ignorance all round. I don't see why the Tau should be singled out for it. Anyways, the DE and Necron bit happened because the Tau were desperate and they didn't have a choice in the manner.

>> No.24334903

>>24334896
matter*

>> No.24334907

>>24334729
yes but they were also acting like cunts about it, and you know how the chaos gods think about cunts, yes slaneesh loves them but you get the idea.

>> No.24334919

>>24334863

I think I do remember those things.

Do you parhaps know any fluff about Tau fighting Chaos Marines though? Concrete info, with the Legion/Renegade Chapter mentioned, where, whene, outcome, you know?

I've been searching for it since the new Tau 'dex came out, couln't find shit (again, except for the abovementioned Blood Tithe)

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>>24326773
>chaos
>xeno
mfw

>> No.24334928

>>24334907
>Want to enslave mortals
>throw a hissyfit when mortals enslave your children!

The Chaos Gods are hypocrites!

>> No.24334930

>>24334921

CSM still use the same terminology.

>> No.24334935

>>24326701
"Because good is dumb."

>> No.24334957

>>24334919
>Do you parhaps know any fluff about Tau fighting Chaos Marines though?

Well, Medusa is one exanple, but I don'y think its canon.

I do remember another example about them working with the Traitor Legions. The 3ED Codex had fluff about the Farsight Enclave working as mercs for the Traitor Legions.

That's all I can remember now.

>> No.24334969

>>24334807
My word. The absolute absence of any intelligence behind this post is staggering.

It's wrong on so many levels it would not be efficient to educate this person at all.

>> No.24334989

>>24334896
The difference between the tau and Imperium is that the tau has about 400 worlds and the Imperium has close to 1 million.

The Imperium has a population perhaps 1 billion times that of the Tau Empire and probably has more organisations dedicated to studying aliens than the Tau have battlesuits.

If you think I'm exaggerating those numbers, you should read up son.

>> No.24335002

>>24334921
Traitors still hate Xenos scum. Affiliating with Xenos is extra heretical.

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>>24334930
>implying they wouldn't just scream in glee and intangible utterances,
seething in the pleasure of your blood,
warming their skins with it,
letting it encrust and harden,
using it for trail mix,
flushed and full of the viscous red ambrosia,
content and at peace with the world,
the cycle of death and life,
no xenos here, just chaos enjoying the eternal procession.

>> No.24335014

>>24334989
i think if anything you are exaggerating the tau numbers and planets and lowballing the imperiums.

>> No.24335019

>>24335010

I said chaos space marines in particular. You forget that many of them have long and bitter histories with various xenos races. Why would they just magically throw away those prejudices for no reason? Sure they embrace chaos, but they're not going to embrace the quick xenos scum.

>> No.24335021

>>24334989
Yes yes.

The Imperium has thousand of years of experience and knowledge and ancient organizations dedicated to those stuff and they STILL GET IT WRONG!

>> No.24335023

>>24326701

You know, I was wondering.

Exactly what DOES that gun fire? Is that a twin-linked railgun? Because the slots are rectangular.

Is it firing...I don't know, discs or something?

>> No.24335025

>>24335023

Pretty much. All rail weapons are rectangular like that.

>> No.24335029

>>24335021

But at least they don't walk forward arms open hoping to engage in peace.

They don't know that much about their oppressors, but know a lot more about dealing with them.

>> No.24335041 [SPOILER] 
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24335041

Come now, the Greater Good does have its benefits! If you're brave enough to claim them, that is.

>> No.24335049

>>24335021
Every human on Earth is
a.) Atheist
b.) Male
c.) Below 20
d.) Chinese
e.) 5'8"

Correct? Because whenever one human is one thing, every human must also be that thing, as you have shown us oh wise one.

No, my point is that some get it wrong and some get it right.

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>>24335019
agreed.
they just don't care about them in the slightest.
even korne only appears to hate, in reality their soul purpose bloodlust, hate and anger are just avenues towards that end.
chaos don't give a fuck,
only the truly un-warped still claim to disavow the gods lack of caring by inanely maintaining a connection to the tainted.
remaining bound to the language of mortality rather than accepting the warps swathing embrace.
the true chaos do not identify or signify, they have no xenos, no hatred, only their singular purpose, completely devoted to their chosen god.

>> No.24335064

>>24335049
everyones white in 40k what are you talking about

>> No.24335066

>>24335041
dude not cool she's like 12

>> No.24335069

>>24335023
Its probably firing solid blocks. Slugs if you will.

>> No.24335072

>>24335066
>she
>age
>drawing
>dingus

>> No.24335080

>>24335049
As I said.

Despite thousands of year of interacting with Eldar, The Imperium can't tell the difference between both kinds of the Eldar race. The Imperium chooses to be ignorant of the Xenos and this leads to trouble.

At least the Tau learn from their first encounter mishaps and have more successes with Xenos than failures.

>>24335049
10K years Ordos Xenos.

Can't tell the difference between spiky Eldar and sparkly Eldar.

FAILURE!

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>>24335072

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>>24334957
FOUND IT.

Here is the anomaly fluff.

Also I was mistaken there is no mention of the Tau driving off Chaotic forces in the newer Codex just rebel humans.

>> No.24335110

>>24335093
Doesn't say what comes out though, it could be a spectacularly exotic xenos race or your average daemon.

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>>24335087

>> No.24335116

>>24335080
we had a discussion about that a few days ago.

there is 3 parts to the problem.
1 is the general willful ignorance of the imperium.
2 is the overly secretive nature of the craftworld eldar
3 is the dickishness of the Dark eldar who actively sabotage any chance the imperium has of working with the craftworld eldar sometimes going so far as to claim they are craftworld eldar.

it goes like this,
>Imperium commander: Why did your kind attack this planet!
>Craftworld Eldar: It wasn't us it was another faction of eldar!
>Imperium Commander: Wait, there are other factions of you guys? how many? and why?
>Craftworld Eldar: We can't tell you and you wouldn't understand anyway!
>Imperium Commander: Whatever I really don't care anyway
then a dark eldar runs in punches the Imperium Commander in the balls and yells "FOR THE ELDAR!" then runs away.

>> No.24335124

>>24335080
Do you really think that when Imperial Generals are collaborating with Eldrad about some defence of a planet they are thinking he skins people alive and feeds off pain?

Do you really think that when Salamanders marines crash a god damned strike cruiser into fucking Comorragh that they think they're fighting a bunch of hippies on a Craftworld?

The majority of the Imperium recognises that there are 4 different types of Eldar- Raiders, Pirates, Craftworlders and Primitives. This is correct. Some conflate them, many more make a point of saying that the despite first appearances the Craftworlders are just as treacherous as the Raiders.

Your knowledge is inadequate.

>> No.24335133

>>24335110
It's a gate to the Warp that vomits out nightmares that need an entire fleet to defeat.

It's either a Chaos Fleet or somehow Daemons have learned to build space ships.

>Xenos

What kind of Xenos lives in the Warp!

>> No.24335137

>>24335041
Why is this Tau cooch not Y-shaped?

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>>24334690
Nigga no one is going to attack our demonic fortress.
We should have though about that BEFORE building it in the eye of terror

>> No.24335140

>>24335053

And most CSM aren't like you described so you're supporting my argument.

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>>24335140
i did not expect your unrefined mortal mind to be capable of comprehending the true nature of chaos.

>> No.24335155

>>24335124
>The majority of the Imperium recognises that there are 4 different types of Eldar- Raiders, Pirates, Craftworlders and Primitives. This is correct. Some conflate them, many more make a point of saying that the despite first appearances the Craftworlders are just as treacherous as the Raiders.

LIES!

The majority doesn't. That's why relations with the Craftworlders are dismal and why the Imperium often confuse the Craftworlders for Dark Eldar and punish them.

>1 is the general willful ignorance of the imperium.

The Craftworld Eldar actually wish peaceful relations with the Imperium. So it appears that the fault primarily lays with the Imperium for being such hateful ignorant tools and secondary for the Dark Eldar for being such pricks.

>> No.24335156

>>24335133

Why exactly do daemons need spaceships?

>> No.24335164

>>24335146
that picture looks like it came right out of a Dr Seuss's nightmare. and i don't mean that in a good way.

>> No.24335174

>>24335156
because plot contrivance?

>> No.24335179

>>24335156
To get around, of course.

>> No.24335207

>>24335155
Craftworlds all have different views.

>> No.24335211

>>24335164
You should see the Slaanesh one.

>> No.24335218

>>24335207
And most of them don't want to be squashed by the Imperium.

>> No.24335220

>>24335133
>What kind of Xenos lives in the Warp!
Enslavers?
>>24335156
>Why exactly do daemons need spaceships?
a) to shoot things with cannons
b) to stabilize themselves outside of the warp, like every other posession

>> No.24335221

>>24335137
This is a good question.

Someone should do something about ít

>> No.24335222

>>24335218
That doesn't make them peaceful towards it.

>> No.24335223

>>24335133
>What kind of Xenos lives in the Warp!
The Saruthi. The Enslavers come from the warp too, and aren't classified as daemon. There are also those black balls of doom which I have forgotten the name of, they're not Warp creatures IIRC, but warp reality.

>> No.24335233

>>24335220

If there's a tear in the warp, can't they just get through normally?

Are bloodletters actually possessed rabbits?

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24335238

Tau?

Why yes, i have some of those chaind up in my basement

>> No.24335242

>>24335223
The Umbra.

>> No.24335243

>>24335223
>>24335220
>Enslavers?

Pretty sure the Enslavers were Warp creatures that got driven insane by the War in Heaven. Can they be classified as real Xenos?

>>24335220
>to stabilize themselves outside of the warp, like every other posession

Where is the Daemon BFG fleet then!?

>> No.24335249

>>24335223
Umbra?

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>>24335146
Word bearers pls go
FLESH IS WEAK

>> No.24335256

>>24335222
It makes them want to build a relationship of non-aggression or cooperation.

>> No.24335257

>>24335243
>Where is the Daemon BFG fleet then!?
never released since BFG never sold very well.

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>>24335139

...damn. Shoul have though of that.

Next one we will biuld on Kasr.

>> No.24335261

>>24335243
>Can they be classified as real Xenos?

They're certainly not Daemons. They do appear to be a (very strange) form of alien life, just one that happens to live in the Warp.

>Where is the Daemon BFG fleet then!?

There was a Daemonship model with its own rules. It was part of the Chaos fleet.

>> No.24335265

>>24335243
You can give ships daemonic possession in BFG.

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>>24334502

>> No.24335285

>Yet despite such worthy requests, all Earth caste attempts resulted in failure. Earlier prototypes were ponderous machines, not fit to enact the tactics of the Code of Fire, or they subjected their wearer (or the planet on which he stood) to risks beyond measure. What finally made the XV1 04 possible was the nova reactor, an experimental power-pack that fuses dark matter, producing energy on scales closer to small stars than conventional engines. Such devices have been used to empower the mighty fleets of the Air caste, but until recently, could not be reduced to a suitable size. Although still in the prototype stage, the nova reactor has proven largely stable, despite some problems in safely releasing the vast energies it produces.

So, what exactly could have made the Riptide prototypes dangerous enough to constitute a danger to the planet?

>> No.24335321

>>24335261
that ship was a possessed chaos ship. I think he wants a ship made by daemons

>> No.24335365

>>24335285
One of the entries in the Tau timeline mentions a "fusion reactor meltdown that destroyed Mu'galath's moon". Mu'gatath, IIRC, was where the Riptide was first used in battle, so it's possible that a couple of the older prototypes were used to bolster their attack.

>> No.24335383
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My name is Brother Eugenicus and I hate every single one of you. All of you are fat, retarded, xenoloving scum who spend every second of their day looking at stupid ass pictures. Don’t be a stranger. Just hit me with your best shot. I’m pretty much perfect. I was captain of a Death Guard squad, and first company after. What things do you do, other than “jack off to naked drawn xenos scum”? I also get straight critical hits, and venerate Nurgle. (A slaaneshi just blew me; Shit was SO cash). You are all xeno-lovers who should just kill yourselves. Thanks for listening.

Pic related: it's me on campaign.

>> No.24335390

>>24335321
Does a ship made OF daemons count?

>> No.24335435

>>24329084
You're wrong and you should feel bad.

>> No.24335459

>>24335390
NAH!

We got singular Daemons the size of mountains and bloody planets.

We want fleet made out of giant Daemons!

>> No.24335472
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24335472

Ethereals have nifty powers and no longer make half your army run away on dieing
Worth taking now?

>> No.24335551

>>24335472
Nope.

Any self respecting Tau player would roll with Farsight.

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>>24326701
but I have, sort of

I'm making a campaign for bringing the greater good to a poor imperial world

>> No.24335670

>>24335551
Meh, I'd prefer more gunz over a flashy sword
Also, I was thinking more of taking a commander AND an ethereal.
Storm of fire just sounds pretty fun, affects all units within 12. Two or three fire Warrior squads firing 3 shots in rapid-fire range, marker-raised to BS5...
Of course the enemy would have to be a bit daft to let you set it up

>> No.24335671

Hey guys. Is it true that Matt made Tau capable of fighting with daemons and heretics?

>> No.24335708

>>24335179
but they can just jump into the warp and take a ticket to wait for the next head pop to start.

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>>24335251
>"FLESH IS WEAK"
You best be fucking joking, that's an Iron Warrior you posted. The "flesh is weak" battle call is the IRON HANDS, who are a loyal chapter. You are the worst kind of person.

>> No.24335744

>>24335671
no they were able to ally with them before the WARD i think

>> No.24335989

>>24334845
a couple of nukes could destroy a titan pretty easily.

>> No.24336011

>>24335989
No it couldn't.
Void shields, nigger.

>> No.24336021
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>>24335989
The nuke crowd is expanding

>> No.24336035

>>24336021
You see, nukes solve absolutely every problem, which is why they are so widely used in modern warfare.

>> No.24336058

Would the Tau try and recruit Orks to the Greater Good? Or do they just kill on site be killed on site rather

>> No.24336063

>>24336058
They tried to in the past.

>> No.24336115

>>24336011
Send enough nukes to overwhelm the shields then.

I can 100% guarantee that the cost of nuking a titan to hell is a small fraction of the cost of building and maintaining a titan + crew.

>> No.24336133

>>24336115
Fissile materials are not cheap.

>> No.24336141

>>24336115
You could even wipe out a titan with just conventional artillery at a much smaller cost. An entire regiment of basilks vs a warlord titan for example.

>> No.24336148

>>24336133
Titans are priceless

>> No.24336157

>>24336141
Unless the Titan wipes you out first.

>> No.24336178

>>24336058
They always try at least once with every race they encounter for the first time

They even tried it with chaos

>> No.24336190

>>24336178
I wonder what that meetinng must have been like for the tau diplomats present, before their inevitable demise that is.

>> No.24336221

I wonder if the Tau will be able to bargain with the Necrons for some anti-warp tech.

Seriously, it would be a pretty sweet agreement for both sides. The Tau agree to leave certain worlds under the control of whatever Necron lord they are talking to the hell alone. In return, the Necron Lord gives the Tau the hints they need to start building warp-suppression tech.

The Necrons get left alone, and the Tau start going around closing up warp rifts (like Perdus) because they are dangerous and they have no use for them.

The Necrons get twice as much out of it as the Tau do, but the Tau end up getting a pretty sweet deal out of it as well.

>> No.24336243

>>24336190

I don't think the Tau got the chance. We know chaos has attacked them, and knowing Chaos I doubt any of the attacking forces would have been all that interested in listening to water caste diplomatic broadcasts.

That, and it is questionable as to whether or not the Tau even know where Chaos is "from", so its not like they could send letters home to ask for peace talks.

>> No.24336255

>>24336221

Oh man, if the Tau got something that effective to use against warp incursion?

The Imperium would be in a serious pickle. Not because that puts them at risk, but because they NEED that tech so bad it isn't even funny.

And the Tau, unlike the Necrons, can be bargained with.

The Imperium might actually have to suck up and admit that shooting first might not be the best plan for a while, and try to strike a deal with the Tau.

>> No.24336270

>>24336221
>I wonder if the Tau will be able to bargain with the Necrons for some anti-warp tech.
Last time the tau invited the necrons out to a party they all got flayed

>> No.24336275

>>24336255
That would just motivate the Imperium to shift the necessary resources to completely overwhelm the Tau

>> No.24336276

>>24336221
Why wouldn't the Necron's just close the warp rifts themselves? Why would they need a deal with the Tau to keep the Tau away? Why would daemons ever bother to bother Necrons?

>> No.24336279

>>24328668
using my tau as allies for my nightlords ...

>> No.24336286

>>24336275
>the Imperium
You mean a few radical inquisitors or rogue traders to get at each others necks. Whoever wins, the Tau lose

>> No.24336327

>>24336286
Good? The Imperium isn't going to start negotiating when they can just temporarily cede a couple sectors to Chaos in order to achieve a strategic victory.

>> No.24336347

>>24336327
>cede a couple sectors to Chaos

THAT SOUNDS LIKE HERESY, BOY. YOU'RE NOT A HERETIC, ARE YOU?

>> No.24336376

>>24335260
>build daemonic fortress
>waiting for someone to attack
>nobody even tries to attack
>attack somebody else's fortress
Build fortress, go on the offensive.

>> No.24336398

>>24336347
Hmm yase. I guess having an IG grunt die really is anathema to the Imperium. My mistake

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