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Any speculation for the 6th edition codex? What do you want to see in 6th edition?

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>> No.23694542

I would like to see phoenix lords make their aspects troops.

>> No.23694553

>>23694541

>> No.23694570

>>23694542

I'd like to see better Autarchs.

>> No.23694577

>> No.23694578

>>23694521
More focus on the Eldar as powerful psychics and mystics

More crazy, one-off relics in the style of the Newcron codex, but more magic/psyker flavored, something along the lines of that old collection of items associated with the different gods and heroes from that one book.

Better aspect warriors. I'd especially love better Swooping Hawks, I have a project in mind for them.

More plasma. It would give them a way to express their technological prowess, harnessing one of the more unsafe powers for the Imperium.

>> No.23694599

>>23694578

The problem with the Necrons is that they usurp the Eldar's place.

Advanced tech, mysterious, scheming and inscrutable

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>> No.23694628

Bone singers would be cool. Aspect Warlocks too, or just being able to buy Warlocks for aspects. Just no "Seer Council is an elite/Special HQ choice and you can attach locks to squads". That'd be dumb.

>> No.23694634

What I want to see.

Better Guardians
Better Psykers
Sturdier tanks
Cheaper units all-around.

>> No.23694635

>>23694599
Star Rifles for Storm Guardians! And probably also available to Hawk Exarchs.

>> No.23694642

Phoenix Lords as character replacements for Exarchs. Each gets a full page with actual stories.

Customisable Aspect Warriors, for example:
Fire Dragons with Flamers isntead of Fusion Guns.
Dark Reapers with Shuriken Cannons.
Dire Avengers with CCW and Shuriken Pistols.

Separate Warlord Tables for Autarchs (representing great tactical plans) and Farseers (representing prophetic visions of victory)

Venoms.

An actual non-phyric victory.

>> No.23694651

>>23694628

I think if they did something like the Necron Royal court, where you could attach Warlocks to your units would make the army even more powerful and viable.

>> No.23694677

>>23694642

Fire Dragons need their fusion guns. Besides, the Exarch can take one.

Shuriken Cannons are awful and can't kell MEQs.

Dire Avengers need their dakka.

>> No.23694700

Also, I'd like to see the Eldar beating the Necrons in the fluff.

The Necron race itself barely suffers any defeats, and they're supposed to be nemeses with the Eldar.

I'd like to see the Eldar exacting some bitter vengeance, like a huge resurgence of the Flayer virus.

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>> No.23694733

Phoenix Lords for the Shining Spears and Warp Spiders.

>> No.23694740

>>23694733

I'd like to see some new aspect warriors, or put in the Shadow Specters(With a price reduction)

>> No.23694741

An Alaitoci special character with an anti-Necron focus. Since they're meant to be the only Eldar actually bothering with it.

>> No.23694747

Swooping Hawks should have Haywire weapons.

>> No.23694760

>>23694741

I guess that would be Farseer Starbane, but he is extremely incompetent.

>> No.23694764

I hope Warp Spiders somehow become insanely OP.

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>> No.23694790

>>23694764

Just giving Death Spinners better range or an AP value would be helpful, or a slowing down/pinning web effect.

>> No.23694799

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>> No.23694818

According to BoLS that 'Autarch's select a path' thing that's been bandied around on /tg/ and elsewhere as a possibility might end up in the next codex.

Do you think it makes sense? How would you make sense of it? Do they only master a few aspects of war or is it something about how committed they are to a particular one?

>> No.23694825

>>23694651
But why not just both? For example, you can put a Veteran Sgt. in each squad in DA, which nets better Ld and special gear, along with having whole squads of those Vets.
Oh, and Solitiares. But like, they need to be the baddest 25mm t3 models in the game.

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>> No.23694846

>>23694642

>Fire Dragons with Flamers
>Dark Reapers with Shuriken Cannons

These would just be named as new aspects if they were implemented.

>> No.23694857

>>23694818

An Autarch has walked many Warrior paths, and didn't find himself drawn to any one. Instead, he was drawn to the path of command, so he understands how all the parts of an Eldar host work together.

>>23694825

Yes, that too, would be a good idea.

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>> No.23694866

>>23694846
Which makes little sense, as Aspects arn't about particular weapons, but the them. And their exarchs (and the reaper lord) can use those weapons.

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>> No.23694886

>>23694866

But the weapon of an aspect warrior help dictate what aspect of Khaine they manifest.

>> No.23694889

>>23694857
>>23694865
Seriously, these aspect warlocks look so cool. I can only hope that the concept spreads to Goodwin/Kelly, somehow.
Also, warlocks need a bump to Ld9, or get their reroll power stock in addition to another power.

>> No.23694905

>>23694889

With Grey Knights, I doubt they'll get a leadership bump, especially considering the hit Daemons took.

I think a reroll power is far more likely.

>> No.23694911

>>23694599

>pic of Shadow Spectre

Those are a step in an interesting direction for Eldar: exploring rare aspects found only on one or two Craftworlds. A cool concept, too: wraithguard in training, cloaked guerilla jetpackers who strike out of nowhere, combine their beams in a supercharged blast, and then vanish afterwards.

Has anyone actually used them? Are they any good?

>> No.23694919

>>23694886
Yeah, but both flamers and fusion guns can represent the utter firey destruction of the Dragon.
Both Shuriken Cannons and Missile Launchers (even the pittiful knockoffs Reapers now get) are weapons to bring doom from afar.

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>> No.23694924

>>23694866

Aspect warriors all have the same base statline. Armor, weapon, grenade type and exarch powers is what differentiates them. At least in the current codex.

>> No.23694932

>>23694889
Warlocks don't roll for powers. They're Mastery 0 Psykers after all.

>> No.23694938

>>23694889

Why does she have a human pistol?

>> No.23694949

>>23694905
>With Grey Knights, I doubt they'll get a leadership bump
What do you mean?
And I'm just saying, if it is going to be my Sgt. option, it needs to be improving Ld first, not potentially (unless, you know, I have ATSKNF and basically ignore morale anyway).

>> No.23694952

>>23694911

Shadow Spectres are so visually appealing, I can't help but want to run them. But they are sadly overpriced points-wise for what they do. I hope this changes in the future.

>>23694919

I can sort of agree what you're saying regarding flamers, but Shuriken Cannons with a 24 inch range is hardly death from afar.

>> No.23694970

>>23694952
True enough. It's more my actual problem is with Maugan Ra, who doesn't fit in with his aspect, and seems more like he somehow vanished and got replaced by a Death Jester. Given the whole shuriken cannon thing, and the armour looking more like theirs.

>> No.23694977

>>23694949

If that's the case, I can't help but wonder what affect it has on the unit price.

>> No.23694994

>>23694970
They need to refluff the Maugetar I think.

>> No.23694997

>>23694938
False flag operation?

Artist laziness?

>> No.23695001

>>23694970

His weapon is supposed to be occult, so I'd like to see more of that.

Plus he soloed a tendril!

>> No.23695010

>>23694924
But their Exarchs show that the weapons
mentioned are also a part of their Aspect.

Some minor differences and added variety
with in the shrines of the Aspects wouldn't
be against the established lore more so just
an expansion on it. I'm all for expanding on
lore specially when it brings variety of options.

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>> No.23695015

>>23694932
>Warlocks don't roll for powers. They're Mastery 0 Psykers after all.
No, no, one of their powers is a reroll failed Ld tests. But you have to pick it. So it's have the 25+ point Sgt buff Ld, or buff damage/durability. Not both.
>>23694938
You got me, so either it's A)artist mistake, B)swiped off of a mook, or C)a very special, extra heretical human.
>>23694952
>but Shuriken Cannons with a 24 inch range is hardly death from afar.
It's good enough for their founder.

>> No.23695036

>>23694857

Yeah but the rumour suggests that Autarchs will 'select' a path and then that one can be taken as troops.

>> No.23695044

A lot of this has been said, but:
>Phoenix Lords make aspect warriors troops
>new units with Guardians and Dire Avengers as bases
>better tanks
>a good AA flyer
>better non-psyker HQs
>Wraithlords and Wraithguard affordable
>Craftworld-based warlord traits

>> No.23695045

>>23695036
>Warp Spider army

I now have a boner.

>> No.23695046

>>23695015

A Phoenix lord needs to have the best weapons. Maugan Ra needs a to have his gun buffed up.

>> No.23695052

>>23695015
Ah, I see what you mean, sorry.

I've just seen so many people think they work like regular psykers that I assumed you were as well, my apologies.

>> No.23695053

>>23694952
Eh, Spectres aren't any more overpriced than anything else Eldar, for a fairly great statline (their IA11 statline, at least. The baseline was a little underwhelming)

I can't lie though, when I saw '3-6' and a combining laser blaster attack, I just wanted to buy a whole squad and paint them Sentai colors.

>> No.23695068

>>23695053
>The one in the blue.
Can't tell if male or female...

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>> No.23695072

>>23695053

I want that Blue fella's pants.

>> No.23695077

>>23695036
It could just be a focus for that battle. Having walked Path X, they know how to really make it worthwhile in this particular fight.
Now, if Autarchs are refluffed as having walked one, und precisely von, Warrior path, then yeah, it's dumb.
We need power gloves back too.

>> No.23695087

>>23695072
>Not green guy's comfy-as-shit pajama bottoms.

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>> No.23695092

Honestly, if I had to make a new Aspect, I'd have it be based on Khaine as the God of Murder and slayer of Eldanesh. Their Phoenix Lord would be really fucking crazy.

>> No.23695097

>>23695068
That's Joe, king of Hard Plastic Swordsmanship.

He's a dude.

>> No.23695102

>>23695077

Eldar power gloves are cool. Bring them back, I say!

>>23695087
>having shit taste

>> No.23695104

>>23694952
>Shuriken Cannons with a 24 inch range is hardly death from afar.

True, but they might not remain such, they might not be limited to that in the hands of the Reapers, or it might just be their weapon of choise when they are not allowed the luxury of distance and when mobility is in demand (fluff)?

>> No.23695112

>>23695077

Well, someone who can only see from one path is hardly the genius the Eldar need.

>> No.23695113

>>23695092
That'd prolly be Incubi and Arhra.

>> No.23695126

>>23694818
>>23694857
>>23695036

Warrior paths aren't just tactical doctrines, they're philosophical schools of thought on war and emotion.

By becoming an aspect warrior you are in a sense adopting a warrior trance that attempts to convey an emotion of the bloody handed khaine.

Perhaps Autarchs can master these different emotional mindsets, but for each battle can only channel one. After all, if they could embody every single aspect of khaine at once they'd have to be... well.. khaine himself.

Of course there will be a Kal'dar Drak-yo mary sue autarch who has mastered them all and makes everthing troops.

>> No.23695129

>>23695104

In that case, I'd rather make Dark Reapers relentless.

>> No.23695148

Give all Shuriken weapons a range boost to match their dark kin.

Hell, according to the gunslinger rules, Guardians would be better off dual wielding shuriken pistols, that way they'd have two CCWs as well as the same number of shots.

>> No.23695154

>>23695126

An Autarch knows all paths and turns away from them all. He is tied to the path of command now.

>> No.23695163

>>23695052
I have been meaning to ask, do you get deny the witch against their template power? I don't remember seeing it mentioned in the FAQ, and their powers are described as "psychic powers that are always on".
>>23695102
But they can't just be renamed power fists. Something like duo mode, S5 AP3, S7 AP2 specialist, or something.

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>> No.23695168

>>23695129
Course you would (and you might get that). But I want variety of options that change how units play and how I can change my game play and theme of the army, and not just for me, but for everyone, give them more choises, while still having the old established one present.

>> No.23695170

>>23695129
>Yriel
>That file name

Damn it all.

I'm just going to post more Shadow Spectre teams.

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>> No.23695181

>>23695113
On the contrary, Incubi are all about loyalty. That's what's so fucked up. According to Incubi legend, they killed their founder rather than let chaos claim him, that's how Loyal they are.

Now, an aspect based on Murder would probably be something like the Bloody Hand aspect. Armed with power-fists.

>> No.23695184

>>23695148
>Hell, according to the gunslinger rules, Guardians would be better off dual wielding shuriken pistols, that way they'd have two CCWs as well as the same number of shots.

Yeah they sure missed some thing there..

>> No.23695186

>>23695170

Noticed that the DevianTartlet that colored it got it wrong, but I never bothered to rename it to Iyanden.

>> No.23695190

Make Eldar skimmers flyers. Especially the dedicated transports.

Bring back the butthurt.

>> No.23695192

>>23695170

>> No.23695198

>>23695181

According the the entry for Drazhar, a flame of ambition still flickers in an Incubus, which is why he is so envied and hated.

>> No.23695201

>>23695181
>Bloody Hands aspect

God, yes. Rage-filled angry retards with Power Gloves.

>> No.23695205

>>23695154

By 'turned away' he means experienced but not lost.

That's what happens to exarchs, they experience a path and get stuck on it. Autarchs experience them all and continue on, thereby mastering them all jack-of-all-trades style (but never excelling at a particular path in the same way as an Exarch. Which is why they don't get access to all the cool Exarch gear).

Oh shit, what if there's levels of Autarchy too? Like a Fartach who can mix and match Exarch equipment?

>> No.23695206

>>23695190
Good ol' 2nd edition and EPIC pop-up attacks, how I miss you.

>> No.23695208

>>23695126
>Of course there will be a Kal'dar Drak-yo mary sue autarch who has mastered them all and makes everthing troops.
You make him doomed and psychotic and totally alienated from and feared by Eldar. He's an evil that's allowed to exist because they need him.
Basically when he shows up, everyone freaks out because a lot of people are going to die.
Oh, and overwhelmingly manly Scorpions. We need those too.

>> No.23695209

>> No.23695210

>>23695126
I'd like to see an Eldar who has mastered all Paths, but eventually got lost on the Path of the Dreamer or Path of Grief or some bullshit. Just so that the ultimate warrior-psyker-renaissance Eldar, whose genius and skill could probably save his species, is just busy sleeping or crying or whatever while they try to feebly get him to actually use his skills.

>> No.23695218

Make Eldar powerfists +2 str -2 I.

>> No.23695226

>>23695205

I'd like to see an Autarch lost on the path of command, who is utterly obsessed with war and tactics.

>> No.23695227

>>23695198
Just the hierarchs. They care too much about their political power than truly uphold the Dark Father's creed.

>> No.23695230

>>23695205

This.

Eldar who have trod the Path of the Warrior repress everything they experienced while on it once they leave it. Autarchs have learned to keep that knowledge of war without succumbing to rage and getting lost the way an Exarch does.

>> No.23695235

>>23695208

>You make him doomed and psychotic and totally alienated from and feared by Eldar. He's an evil that's allowed to exist

Or how about a cripple who is broken in body but pure of warrior mind?

The Stephen hawking of Autarchs.

>> No.23695239

>>23695210

>Path of the Potter

>> No.23695249

I want an Eldar RPG so bad.

Bonus points if a later supplement adds Dark Eldar, so the Striking Scorpion and the Incubus can fight.

>> No.23695253

>>23695239
That would be a sub-path of the Path of the Artisan. Sorta like the Aspect Shrines are sub-paths of the Path of the Warrior.

>> No.23695255

>>23695184
I'm not going to lie, those would be some cool ass shit.
Totally invalidates Storms though.
>This is why Defenders need BS4, and Storms need WS4

>> No.23695265

>>23695205

>Fartarch

>> No.23695268

>>23695235

I know that Eldar can do cybernetics. Yriel has that eye of his. But Eldar tech is very organic(based on Wraithbone, at least).

>> No.23695272

>>23695163
That's... a damn good question.

As far as I can tell, Rules as Written, no, they wouldn't. As the Warlock doesn't make a psychic test, deny the witch doesn't trigger (as it requires you to pass the psychic test)

>> No.23695277

>>23695268

>wraithbone cyborg

FUND IT

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>> No.23695288

Do you think Shadow Spectres will be mentioned in the fluff?

>> No.23695289

>>23695268

Most Eldar just regrow their lost limbs and other injuries with the aid of a fella on the Path of the Healer.

>> No.23695294

>>23695268
Well, that's the thing

Their 'cybernetics' are organically-grown psycho-reactive plastics.

Hell, according to IA11, shuriken guns don't even have a trigger. You just THINK bitches dead.

>> No.23695301

>>23695249
You do know Dark Eldar got a Rogue Trader supplement? It even got an online expansion with rules to let you play Incubi.

>> No.23695304

>>23695277

I think it would be thematically clashing with the Wraithguard.

>> No.23695309

>>23695235
So something like Kairos, only crazy unit shennanigans rather than psychic power/save fuckery? Could be cool.
>>23695249
Pretty sure one of the RT supplements lets you run a DE kabalite, or pirate, or something. But yes, I would like a straight Eldar book too.

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>> No.23695318

>>23695301

Yup! And it was damn good, too.

But I'm eager for playable Eldar that don't use the outdated RT rules.

>> No.23695321

>>23695304

Well how about a spiritseer who got 'lost'?

Like lost on the path of a spirit, and so incorporates wraithbone into his structure and becomes a mini infinity circuit?

>> No.23695346

>>23695249
I thought up of one with Corsairs.

Classes would be Prince, Void Dreamer, Blade Sworn, Ranger, and I dunno, Felarch? The setting would be a lawless sector where one or two Eldar Craftworlds dominate, but the Imperium of Man is slowly conquering it. Corruption wouldn't measure the influence of Chaos, but how much your soul is in peril of being eaten by Slaanesh.

>> No.23695353

>>23695321

I wonder if such a thing would be seen as Eldar necromancy.

>> No.23695357

Is it possible for an Autarch to have tread on the path of the seer too before moving on to the path of command?

>> No.23695371

>>23695346

Why not divide it into Paths?

Warrior/Seer/Outcast for starters, with others down the line. Warrior includes Aspect Warriors, Seer has both Warlocks and Farseers, Outcast includes Rangers and Corsairs. Add in Harlequins down the line.

>> No.23695372

>>23695053
>Sentai Shadow Spectres

Saim-Hann Red Ranger
Mymeara Blue Ranger
Iyanden Yellow Ranger
Biel-Tann Green Ranger
Ulthwe Black Ranger

...Who's the sixth?

>> No.23695378

>>23695218
Make use of the new special rules. Eldar Powerfists, instead of the doubled strength and unwieldy rules, instead get the Smash special rule, making them strike like monstrous creatures.

>> No.23695385

>>23694764
I hope they also get new models with that. It fits GW's MO, so please let this happen.

>> No.23695396

>>23695357

It's possible. But such an Eldar would likely be quite old, as he would've had to master many paths.

>> No.23695399

>>23695372
Ra's crafworld is Pink, so that one, I guess. Can't spell it, but it starts with an "A".
>>23695357
Why wouldn't it be?

>> No.23695414

>> No.23695415

>>23695399
Altansar.

>> No.23695420

>> No.23695421

>>23695371
Those are units from Imperial Armor's Corsair army list. Prince are leaders, Blade Sworn are elite guards of the Prince, Void Dreamers are warlocks/navigators, and Felarchs are squad leaders (I wasn't sure about them, but Black Crusade has both Chosen and Aspiring Champions).

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>> No.23695430

>>23695399
Altansar Pink Ranger, then.

Also I love those Titan pilots.

SO GLAM.

>> No.23695435

>>23695430

Titan Pilots are twins, right?

>> No.23695448

>>23695435
Always siblings.

Only twins in the case of the Warlock Titans, which are sometimes piloted by triplets.

>> No.23695454

>>23695421
You could make Four books out of it: Paths, Corsairs, Exodites, and the Dark Kin. Shit would be cash.

>> No.23695466

>>23695448

And the souls of the previous pilots are inside?

>> No.23695485

>> No.23695498

Avatars with some god damn wings. Or any kind of mobility really.

>> No.23695508

>> No.23695529

>>23695466
Previous pilots, famous warriors, powerful seers... Eldar Titans are like super-sized Wraithlords. The biggest ones are stuffed with enough souls that Slaanesh would put itself in a pleasure coma if it ever got ahold of one.

>> No.23695530

>> No.23695536

Craftworld Specific rules, kind of like Doctrines IG had in the 3.5ed Codex. Make different units troops, get preferred enemy etc.

Other than that, make units more cost effective, better Autarchs.

I'm not an Eldar player, but use some as allies for my IG

>> No.23695552

>> No.23695561

>> No.23695562

>>23695321
They already have armor that is composed of many spirits basically powering it and lending their knowledge to the user.

>> No.23695574

>>23695536

Autarchs definitely need a buff, but it seems they'll be getting one.

>> No.23695585

>> No.23695605

>>23695536
Autarchs definitely need a buff. So I can run the Iliad…IN SPACE!!!

>> No.23695607

>> No.23695619

>>23695605

You know, I have seen quite a bit of reference to the ancient greek in the eldar.

Like how Vaul the smith is a cripple and how they flew on sky-chariots.

>> No.23695636

>>23695619
What we need is a Greek Phaeston.

Best Greek hero, and with a theme that's totally Eldar - reckless arrogance and misuse of power leading to catastrophe borne out of noble purpose.

>> No.23695637

>>23695605
What would the Trojan Horse be?

>> No.23695671

>>23695636

The Dark Eldar Venom is said to resemble the Sky-Chariots of old.

>> No.23695677

>>23695619
Greek mythology/imagery is one of several aesthetics Eldar reference. It's pretty cool.
>>23695637
Well, Trojans loved horses, so that's why it was a horse. Imperials like skulls, I guess, so a giant skull that is made up of smaller skulls? Made from a substance whose molecule chain forms a skull?

>> No.23695703

>>23695677
Ah, but they also love thrones.

So some form of... skull... throne?

>> No.23695718

>>23695605

I would love that.

Captch: ancient scars

fuuuuuuuuuuu

>> No.23695720

>>23695677
I was thinking of a Trojan Gargant for the Orks, with a note saying "WE DONTZ WANT TO FIGHT. TAKE DIS GIFT. PEE ES: DIS IZ NOT A TRAP"

>> No.23695732

>>23695671
It's also the same basic chassis as a Vyper.

We also see what the craftworld version would be like in the FW corsair army list.

>> No.23695737

>>23695703
…Yes. But we better throw a two-headed eagle or two and a few thunderbolts on there, just to be sure.
>thisisthebestplanever.jpeg

>> No.23695757

>>23695720
PEE ESS ESS: IZ TRAP


(Now see, the orks will think the Eldar are pulling a double bluff, so will think they're outsmarting them by taking it in)

>> No.23695767

>>23695732

Maybe we can get a chariot aspect warrior, or something.

I would love to shower Lightning Bolts or Fire on my enemies.

>> No.23695815 [SPOILER] 

Perhaps they could have some units that are halfway between regular eldar and wraith units. Like a mix of flesh and wraithbone...

>> No.23695831

-More weapon options for aspects, so the unit can choose the same weapons their exarch can
-Exarch weapons getting revamped, so they can have limited customization
-Jetbikes for banshees, lance... lances for shining spears
-Autarchs that actually do anything
-Less guardians, maybe replace them with some robotic unit
-An aspect focused around vehicles and heavy weapons so I can field proper Biel-tan
-Expanded armoury with some powerful relics
-Eldrad wraithlord
-Fluff that makes sense
-Exodite and corsair units
-Themed lists, maybe centered around characters since that's how it works now

>> No.23695840

>>23695815

Such an Eldar would be seen as an abomination. But incidentally, I was working on Eldar Liches myself, with grown bodies and Wraithbone infused skeletons etched with runes.

>> No.23695886

Make more of a distinction between Steersmen and Warriors. Maybe have a "Storm steersman crew" upgrade, which gives the Steersmen BS 4.

>> No.23695897

>>23695815
>>23695840
They're called Farseers.

>> No.23695958

Craftworld minifactions. I want my black guardians back

>> No.23695972

>>23695958
>Iyanden list
>cheap spiritseers, effective Wraithguard, totally worth taking 30 Wraithguard
>Wraithguard are still $15 dollars per

IT PRINTS MONEY.

>> No.23695993

>>23695972
>paying full price for GW minis

>> No.23696016

>>23695972
Bette idea:
>Plastic wraithguard unit
>5 wraithguard, 1 spirit seer
>variety of shooting and close combat options, and all seer options.
>$50
That shit would sell like hot cakes. Chocolate Chip hot cakes.

>> No.23696026

Okay guys, got some extra details on the earlier Eldar rumors, specifically artwork and what everything looks like. Still no rules. Looks like the Xentarchs are indeed Exarchs, whether they are special Exarch's or just new remodelling is to be seen. We've also got names nailed down a bit more from translations.

With the recent release of the end of this year's schedule looking like Chaos and Dark Angels getting done, we might see Eldar landing early Q1 2013. This would be very much appreciated. Depending who writes it

Anyway, details below!
Eldar Warpspiders/Everguard
5 per box
Spiders: whole squad looks like the old exarch, no huge weapon, helmets smaller, but same shape, wrist blades, two small spinner weapons on rod mount from the back. Spider web like straps on the chest that hold the backpack (doesn’t look as broad as the old version), running, jumping and slightly cowering poses, exarch has extra pair of weapons on the cover, don’t remember the back pictures

Everguard: aspect warrior body with runes on the chest, same collar as warpspiders but no mandible arcs and gas masks, different more warlock-like face plate and small arc at back of the head, double bladed two-handed spears, very dynamic models, jets from the side/underside of the backpack, squad leader has larger head-arc, mantle hangs over the backpack, flies in the wind

Eldar Sky Charriots/Shining Spears
3 per box, look like small vypers, slightly larger than jetbikes. Two parts: an engine part with jetbike-like canopy but in the shape of a dragon, owl and hawk head, sideway jets, and a distinct winged chariot part, parts are connected by arcs.

>> No.23696039

>>23696026

Riders either warlocks but arms are not robed, spear, sword and staff; or shining spear aspect warriors with lances, shining spears have smooth canopies with gems instead animal heads, helms look very cylon-like, have collar-like shoulderguards

Eldar Jetbikes
3 per box, the same pose as dark eldar jetbike, guardian riders with smaller helmets or bareheaded with lots of flying hair (80s heavy metal mane) and without backpack, vyper-esque smooth canopy, jet and wings have the same design as a falcon grav tank, under slung twin shuriken catapults and/or serpent-shaped bladehooks, some riders have axes with a hole in the blade

Eldar Dragon Riders
3 per box, very slender lizard mounts not unlike slaanesh steeds, all female rider, no helmets, long braids, guardian armor without backpack, all have shining spear lances, sabres and/or sniper rifles as sidearms, the armor has no decoration, not even gems or small bubbles, only exception is a gem that holds a cloak that falls to the left side of the rider, very simplistic look, not aztec or tribal at all

Eldar Wraithguard/Cataphracts
3 per box, look like old versions but have two rods for upper arms and thighs instead of just one, some have feet, some hooves, large fins at the back

Cataphracts: float/fly, fluttering cloth pieces instead of legs, wing-shaped shields and spears, segmented/armored head

Eldar Swooping Hawks
5 per box, larger wings, not so stiff and two-dimensional, several straps of clothes from the loin, wrists and ankles, model stand on these straps, both shoulder plates have inbuilt missile racks, Exarch has two shoulder-mounted blasters and a scimitar in one hand and two optional rifles, one is the same as the old exarch had, the other is a small star cannon

>> No.23696050

>>23696039

The Avatar of the Young King
Completely new design, much smaller, only as large as a wraithguard, set of aspect armour where every piece is spread out and connected by a body of magma, looks like an fire/earth elemental clad in a suit of armour, dire avenger helm with fire from the eyes and half burnt helm crest, floats and torso pose looks like vader during his Noooo scream, hands are armored, blood is dripping from the left, the right is molten and transformed into a blade

Eldar Warlock
fits the current warlocks but sharper robe edges, hadouken pose but with staff in two hands

Eldar Spirit Warrior
wraithlord-war walker mix, trygon base, running bird legs with hooves, huge scaled torso, a dozen poles extend from the back (like wraithlord but three times as much), left forearm replaced with massive lance, right hand holds extra handle on lance shaft or a three pronged swastika blade. Lower back, left shoulder and part of the left arm are concealed by an impressive cloak, head is surrounded by scaled armour plating, large gem at the front, doesn’t bend upward towards the end but downward, whole model leans forward, chest can be opened, female pilot inside

Eldar Phoenix Lord Nuadhu, The Fireheart
nuadhua holds lance upright, one end on the ground, points with axe on something, shining spear helm with tail of hair, layered armour like dark eldar-armour but with smooth curves, can be placed on vyper-variant, looks very similar to a vyper, canopy more segmented and wings in falcon-style, one large jet engine, chariot platform on the back, two large pennants

Eldar Webway Gate
Two arcs that almost touch each other at the top, whole construct has hazelnut shape, pyramidal platform with oval basis, several destroyed columns, front columns are intact and carry swooping hawk and dark reaper statues, whole model is covered with thorn-twines (seems to be optional)

>> No.23696056

>>23696050

Eldar Howling Banshee Xentarch
golfer pose, bends forwards and slashs upwards with a sabre, stretches other arm straight into the air, holds tri-swatiska, has snakes woven into her hair

Eldar Striking Scorpion Xentarch
jumps forwards, holds two short but thick chainswords in front, back of armour has backbone-like element that looks like a scorpion tail, continued on the helmet and ends in a sting, stands on ornamented plate with roots on it

Eldar Fire Dragon Xentarch
knees almost, holds very long pike with two hands ready to fire, huge cluster of grenades on his back and his belt, helm ends in a dragon head

Eldar Lamia Strike Fighter / Moon Siren Bomber & Eldar Black Warden

>> No.23696063

>>23696016
Bring back the old stealthy ghost warriors and make them a dual-purpose kit such as those others GW loves these days.

>> No.23696073

>>23696026
>>23696039

I wonder what Everguard and Cataphracts are.

>> No.23696093

>>23696073

Cataphracts look like jet/jump wraithguard.

>> No.23696095

>>23696073
>I wonder what Everguard and Cataphracts are.
I know that the latter is GW ripping off Privateer Press.

>> No.23696107

>>23696073
Melee spiders and jumpy melee wraithguard, respectively.

>> No.23696116

>>23696073
They look like waterfalls, or small blindspots in your eyes.

Wait no, those are cataracts.

>> No.23696126

>>23696107
>>23696093
I meant lorewise. Everguard doesn't sound like a name for an Aspect Temple IMO, and Cataphracts don't fit in the Wraith Lord/Guard/Seer naming scheme.

>> No.23696142

>>23696126

I shall remain apprehensive, but what I see so far is good.

>> No.23696184

>>23696126
My guess is, if these rumours are accurate, the Eldar Codex is also getting a buttload of Exodite units. Everguard and Cataphractoi will be Exodites.

>> No.23696202

Plastic Warp Spiders/ Everguard ( sounds high elf)
Plastic Shining spears ( granted mostly plastic now but a new kit that's all plastic would be nice)
Phantom Wachter ( my Germans rusty but I think that's a spirit seer or maybe shadow specters, it translates to Ghost Guard or Phantom Guard. I guess that could actually be the plastic Wraith Guard)
Plastic Wraithguard ( this has me excited but I will believe it when I see it. Its a possible explanation why we havn't seen a finecast model though)
Resin Exarchs or Xenarchs as the name read.
Resin warlock
Resin avatar box
Resin Black Warden, looks like female Autarch or an Exodite leader
Resin dragon riders
Resin Webway gate( this has me very excited as it seems to point to Eldar having a Webway portal like the dark kin).
A flyer kit. Apparently crossbow shaped. This had a mix of weapons and what looked to be a distortion cannon in a dorsal mount position. I think there is a good chance of the flyer. It could be Eldar or it could be a Void Raven Bomber as there is an inbound flyer release including the Dark Eldar and Tau.
A Shining Spear Phoenix Lord is possible, but the Description and Name Niaduh leads me to believe that there is a new codex inbound and Niaduh Fireheart The famed Wild Rider Cheiftan of Saim Hann is making a return to the game. He was seen riding what looked like a Vyper bike.

Plastic or resin "Halcones Cazadores", which if my Spanish is correct is "Hunting Hawks" or in English Swooping Hawks. Granted the current models are finecast, but a redesign could be cool. There was also mention of Jetbikes. I know Jes Goodwin did a prototype for a new Eldar Jetbike like 3 or 4 years or more ago. If this was put into production I will be buying tons. Saim Hann army numbers.

There was also some Eldritch Raider models, which says to me that Prince Yriel's boys and girls will be making an appearance with the codex allowing you to run a Pirate list or what has me kind of excited an Exodite List.

>> No.23696211

>>23696202
Honestly new Hawks is the most exciting thing for me.

They've always been kind of crap, but I love the idea of taking some hawks, doing their main body in Iyanden Yellow, and then working upwards in various sunset colors until the very tips and edges of their wings are the bright blue of a clear sky.

>> No.23696223

Damn, no new Scorpions.

>> No.23696248

>>23696223

Well,I'm sure everything will get upgraded, since the Eldar codex is really old.

>> No.23696254

>>23694634

The problem with having better guardians is they would then overlap with the Dire Avengers too much, as it stands the reason why Guardians are "bad" is because the Dire Avengers can do what they're supposed to do better with well planned volleys of alternating Bladestorms aided by a farseer or two.

The guardians advantage is in how cheap they are and while that can be incredibly useful to meet your 2 troops requirement at low cost, a units main appeal shouldn't be "they don't get in the way of what you really are trying to do"

I'd say take out Guardians all-together if you are going to have Dire Avengers be a thing, or make Guardians better and take out Dire Avengers, alternatively merge the two together some how

>> No.23696265

>>23696211
I'd love them to bits if they could assault flyers.

>> No.23696269 [DELETED] 

>>23696265

Assault Flyer?

>> No.23696284

>>23696265
>tackle fliers in mid-air with Haywire Grenades

WHO'S FLIER EDITION NOW, MOTHERFUCKERS?

>> No.23696297

All of these rumors sound really promising. I can't wait for our codex. It's going to be a bitter wait.

>> No.23696320

>>23694521
Guardians that actually live up to their name. Turn them from cannon fodder to support units. Make them the civilians that support the actual warriors.

One example how this could be done:
Aspect unit gets charged -> Guardian unit gets to fire overwatch for them.

Also turn their rifles from crap to:
24", S3, AP5, Assault 1 and give them BS4 (come on, they trained thousands of years for this, even though it was only in their spare time)

>> No.23696325

>>23696265
Just give the unit Vector Strike.

>> No.23696336

>>23696325

With strength 3? Against side armor?

>> No.23696354

>>23696297
>implying it hasn't been a bitter wait for 15 years

>> No.23696365

>>23696354

I don't think the codex will ever get as strong as that.

>> No.23696375

>>23696336
Hey, they at least get to attack as they fly over, and then they can shoot from behind the craft.

>> No.23696398

>>23696365
I'm fine with that, but at least give us some gimicky fun to play with. Last two codicies have been dryer than a sand mummy's asshole. And it only dipped worse.

At least in that thinner than a magazine 3rd edition dex we got the goofy mandiblaster attack type of stuff. And the craftworld addon dex. 4th edition we got Codex: USE HARLEQUINS and jack shit since.

Our jetbikes and warlocks have models 20years old. Those models are older than a lot of the fanbase. I'll be as bitter as I want.

>> No.23696404

>>23696284
I've had it with those mothafuckin hawks on this mothafucking plane!

>> No.23696430

I'd like it if Banshee Masks could be used as weapons, with the concussive special quality.

>> No.23696432

>>23696398
I play Dark Eldar, I feel for you and I hope your codex will be just as good.

>> No.23696439

>>23696430
Hand flamer template. Because fuck scorpions.

>> No.23696449

>>23696439

Scorpions need pinning Mandiblasters.

Because fuck Banshees.

>> No.23696472

Scorpions can get Lightning Claws.

>> No.23696475

>>23696439
>>23696449

It sounds like soon warp spiders will be changed to teleporting supermelee.

Because fuck walking over to stab guys.

>> No.23696488

>>23696475
Melee wraithguard

Because fuck your toughness

>> No.23696497

>>23696475

Scorpions can already infiltrate, we're fine. And we get lots of attacks on the charge too.

>> No.23696503

>>23696439
Of course, the other benefit would be using them as a pair. The Banshee's concuss them at range, allowing others to charge them and gain a good init bonus that's usually the province of the Banshees.

>> No.23696504

>>23696488

But they're so expensive....

At least they can kill terminators, though.

>> No.23696520

>>23696504
Probably not. Letting them kill terminators would only make them more expensive.

>> No.23696528

>>23696472
Oh Rites of War, how I miss thee. Hawk and Avenger Exarchs in particular.

>> No.23696545

>>23696520

Wraithcannons can already do that. STR X(2+) AP 2.

>> No.23696601

>>23696528
Yeah, the armoury would also help give the Eldar some legendary items for their army like the other armies do.

>> No.23696681

>>23696545
I meant I'd bet they get AP3 melee weapons at best.

Probably AP4 actually.

>> No.23696698

>>23696681
I'd rather have them take non-power weapons with an S bonus.

>> No.23696747

>>23696601
By rights the Eldar should have some of the most artifacts, lore-wise.

>> No.23696773

>>23696698
Yeah, that could work. Makes them 'feel' different from banshees and scorpions.

>They worry about armour, but fuck your tanks.

>> No.23696818

>>23696773
Makes sense from a fluff perspective, too: they're kind of derpy and slow and it's easy to deflect of dodge their blows, but if they land a square hit you explode into fine paste.

>> No.23696832

I know the Tau players want their bone. And I respect that.

But even though I don't play Eldar... goddamn I just don't care about a Tau release. I want to see some sexy new Eldar models so I can finally start an army of them.

>> No.23696900

I hope the jetbikes get a revamp.

I find them kind of ugly.

>> No.23696965

>>23696900

Jetbikes are fucking awesome. Why would they change that?

>> No.23697002

>>23696965

As I said, I find the current models outdated. I want them to get a slight revamp, like the awesome DE reavers.

>> No.23697064

>>23696900
>>23696965
>>23697002
They're getting rersculps.

>> No.23697086

>>23697064

Source?

>> No.23697118

Khaine is a C'tan all along.

Khaine was the Burning One.

Please, GW, make it happen. I must be vindicated!

>> No.23697129

>>23697118

Khaine is a warp entity.

>> No.23697149

>>23697129
A Warp God with a physical form which was tainted by the essence of the C'tan driving him insane.

Also....he was sharded!

>> No.23697150

>>23697086
Jes Goodwin.

>> No.23697190

>>23694521
sorry im late guys.
taking requests.

>Exarchs = Stubborn, exarch powers are squad upgrades.

>HQ
Farseer = mastery level 1, can upgrade to mastery level 3, may take 4 powers. doesnt roll for eldar powers.

Pheonix lords = FNP, Fuegan gets 4+ FNP

Autach = seize initiative 4+, 2 warlord powers.
>Troops
DIre avengers =24" Assault 2 shuricats, Bladestorm is all weapons are salvo 2/4

Guardians = min unit size 5, defenders get bs4 and support weapon options(d-cannon/vibrocannon, ect), storm get ws4 and plas/haywire grenades

>Elites
Scorpions = stealth for 10pts

Banshees = furious charge for 10pts, ap 2.

Wraithguard = 35pts, FNP.

>Fast attack

swooping hawks = Skyleap = swoop like MCs, intercept = Vectorstrike with Haywire grenades.

shining spears = get s6 ap2 PW on charge, haave unwieldy maul afterwards

Warp spiders = Deepstrike without scatter for 10pts, Enter reserves at end of asssault-phase for 10pts(roll deepstrike mishap table)

>Heavy support = BS4 for 5pts for all guardian units(falcons,warwalkers, ect)

Dark Reapers = skyfire and intercept for 35pts

Wraithlord = twinlink is optional, FNP

>Vehicle upgrades

Shock field = 15pts gives assault transport can not be combined with holo fields.

Holo fields = 15pts gives shrouding

star engines = 25pts may flat out in the assault phase

>Weapons
Shadow Weaver= unit hit is in dangerous terrain.
Starcannon=36" S6 AP2 Heavy 3
Vibrocannon= causes ap- penetrating hits on vehicles.
Brightlance= 10pts cheaper

>> No.23697200

>>23697149

That doesn't make him a C'tan.

>> No.23697208

>>23697190

>eldar powers.

Considering Dark Angels didn't get any native powers, you're sure placing a lot of faith in GW.

Oh yeah, sure, chaos got it, but that's only to differentiate between marked psykers. They lost their ordinary undivided powers.

>> No.23697220

>>23697208
>eldar powers.
>Removing the iconic Eldar Psychic powers from the most powerful psyker race in the game because of laziness.
>any year

>> No.23697230

>>23697200
He was corrupted into one becoming the Burning One. The new fluff blurs the line between C'tan and Warp entities. The C'tan can consume Souls, gain access to the Webway, and command ''Warp Horrors''.

And there is hints that the Old Ones and the C'tan have some sort of shared history. I hope the Eldar dex reveals some of it!

>> No.23697238

some better color schemes/removing the color-coded aspects so it doesn't involve your army shitting rainbows

>> No.23697245

>>23697230
>I hope the Eldar dex reveals some of it!
I hope that wards shittastic fluff stays limited to his codices, and doesnt continue to infect glorious xenos races.

>> No.23697246

>>23697230

>The c'tan can consume souls

The fluff is still terribly indistinct here. It mentions 'life essence' but doesn't exactly elaborate. There's still nothing to suggest Khaine is a C'tan, and not just terribly injured by them.

>> No.23697252

I'd like to see a multi-part plastic autarch, shadow spectres and the FW Avatar of khaine introduced.

But we're gonna get more open topped chariot style transports and some kind of wraithlord dragon or some bullshit because GW is deciding to make 40k really cheesy for the wowkiddies

>> No.23697256

>>23696254
Guardians have stats like guardsmen, shittier guns than shootas and cost more than both.

At the very least up their shuriken catapult range to 18 so that they are at the very least on par with shootas.

>> No.23697267

>>23697238
>some better color schemes/removing the color-coded aspects so it doesn't involve your army shitting rainbows
>not enjoying the rainbow.

>> No.23697285

>>23697220

Well if DA didn't get their own, it won't make much sense for vanilla marines to get it to, which would mean the axing of the iconic Smite.

It's too early to tell, but it looks like the streamlining of psychic powers in 6th could be the 40k equivalent of the magic armoury looting going on in fantasy.

>> No.23697291

Just make all shuriken weapons rending.

>> No.23697294

need moar space elf waifu

>> No.23697300

>>23697252
>I'd like to see a multi-part plastic autarch,
Probbaly gonna happen.
>shadow spectres and the FW Avatar of khaine introduced.
GW has been avoiding adding FW units to codices, however their is a resculpt of the avatar coming, as well as 1+ new aspects.

>But we're gonna get more open topped chariot style transports
Naudhu fireheart aspect will be baller.
>some kind of wraithlord dragon or some bullshit
Nope.jpg we are getting 2 flyers one of which is basically the voidraven, the other is an smaller nightwing.

>> No.23697304

>>23697294

Too wide faced and cute to be an Eldar. Not creepy and uncanny enuff.

>> No.23697309

>>23697246
Deathwatch/Black Crusade books makes it clear. The C'tan feasted on the souls of the Necrontyr.

Only Warp entities or beings related to the Warp can do that.

>There's still nothing to suggest Khaine is a C'tan, and not just terribly injured by them.

Necron Fluff : Burning One grants the Necrons access to the Webway. He desires to spread his flame into the Webway and burn all within

Eldar fluff : Khaine was driven insane and turned on the Eldar during the War in Heaven and slaughtering them.

Hmmm....Both beings are fiery beings, with knowledge of the webway, and have a hatred for the Eldar. Is this all random?!

>>23697245
Don't you wanna know how it all started?

Or how the Eldar defeated the Necrons?

It's gonna be fantastic!

>> No.23697310

>>23697300

Isn't the nightwing a FW model?

>> No.23697312

>>23697294
GTFO elf.

>> No.23697316

>>23697310
>smaller nightwing.

>> No.23697344

>>23697316
>Smaller Nightwing

>> No.23697357

>>23697309

>they're both on fire
>they must be the same

Should we assume the Flame Falcon chapter are C'tan as well?

>> No.23697365

>shuriken cannons are assult 2
>no manly man eldar with big beefy arms wielding that shit like an 80s action hero

>> No.23697373

>>23697365

I love mandar.

>> No.23697380

>>23697309
>eldar's own god of war wants them all dead
>his avatar's constantly get butt molested by mehreens

Khaine is a shit tier god.

>> No.23697383

>>23697365
You think this isnt a thing?

>> No.23697385

>>23697357
>Both were on Fire
>Both were God like entities
>Both hated the Eldar
>Both have a working knowledge of the Webway
>Both existed in the same time period

No, just KHAINE!

>> No.23697389

>>23697383

>> No.23697398

>> No.23697411

>>23697398

>> No.23697412

plastic Warpspiders/Everguard
plastic Skycharriots/Shining Spears
plastic Phantomwaechter - these might be the shadow spectres?
plastic Jetbikes
plastic Wraithguard/Cataphracts
plastic flyer combi-kit - The flyer is pretty large and has a crossbow shape, two canopies, one fin. The main variant on the cover has some lances and a large dorsal distort cannon. The other variant has extra downward/sideway thrusters, but I don’t remember if it has a different weapon loadout.
plastic phoenix lord niadhau - For Shining Spears, appears to be on a Vyper jetbike.
plastic webway gate
resin box Avatar
resin Black Warden - The Black Warden looks like an female Autarch. She has a shurikencatapult and a feathered guardian helm with an eye on it.
resin Dire Avenger Xentarch - Appears to be a new English name for Exarch?
resin Howling Banshee Xentarch
resin Fire Dragon Xentarch
resin Striking Scorpion Xentarch
resin box Dragon Riders
resin box Eldritch Raiders - They look like guardians but have no helms and wear scarfs around the lower head and swashbuckle belts. They are very individually equipped, have all sorts blades, pistols and/or rifles. (potentially Storm Guardians?)
resin box Halcones Cazadores
resin Warlock

From Dakka Dakka.

>> No.23697502

>>23697412

Halcones Cazadores are Swooping Hawks.

>> No.23697527

>>23697385

Khaine loves the Eldar, he took arms to protect them. He may be a prick, but the Eldar are his.

>> No.23697563

>>23697412

>Everguard

Sounds kinda wood elfy.

>> No.23697566

>>23697527
>The Eldar are his
Yes, they are his to murder and torment.

The only thing that stopped Khaine from wiping out the Eldar was Asuryan.

He took arms because that's what he does. It's his purpose of existence as a God of War.

>> No.23697591

>>23697566

Khaine is not a C'Tan, he was made to fight them by the great ones. C'Tan are creatures of Gas and Necrodermis and hate the warp.

>> No.23697634

>>23697591
C'Tan are creatures of Gas and Necrodermis and hate the warp.

I wouldn't say that. They seem to love to devour the Warp essence known as a soul.

>Khaine is not a C'Tan, he was made to fight them by the great ones

Already made case about that in this thread. He might have not started as a C'tan, but the Living Metal/Nightbringer Essence might have corrupted him into one.

>> No.23697654

>>23697634

Taint doesn't mean transformed. Khaine doesn't feed on the Eldar.

>> No.23697689

>>23697591
Khaine wanted to wipe the Eldar out because it had been prophesied that they would bring about the death of the gods.

>> No.23697703

I want Dark Reapers to get their missile launchers back. Reaper Launcher was a bad idea from Gav.

>> No.23697711

>>23697689

Doesn't matter, C'Tan feeds on the souls of those around him. You say that Khaine is one, but Khaine has never ate any Eldar for food.

>> No.23697718

>>23697689

Pity he didn't.

>> No.23697725

>>23697711

Uh... technically the young king is sacrificed to him isn't he?

>> No.23697729

>>23697703

Is there anything that wasn't a bad idea from Gav?

>> No.23697731

>>23697725

But that needs a physical shard of him. It's more like a transformation.

>> No.23697735

>>23697654
He did when he was transformed into the Burning One, gave access to the Webway to the Necrons, and scourged the the Eldar.

>> No.23697741

>>23697731
The C'tan are sharded and so is Khaine.

To awaken Khaine you need to feed him the essence/soul of a Eldar!

It's pretty damning. Khaine is a C'tan!

>> No.23697745

>>23697735

When was he turned into that? Newcron codex says C'Tan were all sharded.

>> No.23697747

>>23697729
Craftworld Dex.
Also few remember but it was kelly who fucked us hardest.
He made a clone of gavs dex, and nerfed it.

>> No.23697766

I'd quite like to see some outside craftworld stuff show up (I know it's Craftworld Eldar, but it's not like the pirates or exodites are ever going to get their own list).

Maybe some additional units drawn from exodite worlds or reavers, and then maybe even an option to run a whole list as one or the other.

>> No.23697770

>>23697766

Corsairs have their own army list in Imperial Armor.

>> No.23697771

>>23697729
-Sisters of Battle
-Blood Angels
-Inquisitor

>> No.23697774

>>23697735

How is he both the burning one and himself in avatar form at the same time?

>> No.23697786

>>23697771

>sisters of battle
>not a terrible idea

>> No.23697797

>>23697786
Ward pls go

>> No.23697800

>>23697797

Not him, but they are. It's sexist and offensive.

>> No.23697815

>>23694521
A fluff rework to give them a new place in the setting because of >>23694599

also the /tg/ eldar asspain after release would be quite amusing

>> No.23697838

>>23697815

Barely anyone here likes the Eldar. Just fucking over the Necrons 5 or 6 times in any codex would cause tears.

>> No.23697861

>>23697838

>barely anyone here likes the Eldar
>implying

Plenty of people like the Eldar.

In part due to Nicole Oliver's sexy voice.

>> No.23697878

Wonder if they gonna expand on the Tau/Eldar thing or just keep it a mystery for a while more.

>> No.23697881

>>23697838
>Barely anyone here likes the Eldar.
This is interesting.
In 3rd ed Eldar players outnumbered everyone but marines.
and 2nd and 3rd ed eldar armies were retardedly OP, to the point that it became an object of every fluff writer in the last decade to worf them.
combined with 2 nerf dexes, and no codex in 5th ed they eventually fell out of favor.

I suspect that a new codex, especially a 6th ed buff dex would significantly change this.

>> No.23697901

>>23697881

Knowing GW, the Eldar are going to become buffed quite a bit, along with price raises for the models.

>> No.23697907

>>23694700
The filthy pathetic Eldar shouldn't even touch the Necrons.

Necrons are too awesome for that.

>> No.23697927

>>23697907

Yeah yeah, boring boring. Necrons are boring. They never lose. Many defeats would make the Necrons more interesting. Or at least less irritating.

>> No.23697946

>>23697927
If the Necrons gonna be defeated, then it should be done by someone worthy.

The Eldar are not....worthy.

>> No.23697958

>>23697946

3 codexes of nerfs can do that. 2 decades ago they were OP as fuck.

>> No.23697976

>>23697958
Excuses excuses!

Just keep your sharp ears away from my Necrons. No need to ruin their fluff for the sake of your faction.

>> No.23697983

>>23697958
pfft even with 2 nerf dexes 4th ed eldar were still the most OP army in the game.

>> No.23698032

>>23697976

>their fluff

Necrons were shoehorned into the setting, just like the Tau

>> No.23698038

>>23698032
And they are the best thing in the setting!

>> No.23698050

I miss pop up attacks.

>> No.23698051

>>23698038

>TOMB KINGS IN SPACE

>> No.23698065

>>23697881
>In 3rd ed Eldar players outnumbered everyone but marines.

Where the fuck where you at? I was literally one of the only people in my area that played and kept playing them through 3rd. A lot jumped on the Cron/Tau are new wagon. The other I knew quit.

>retardedly OP
In 2nd, yeah, 3rd? Nah. We had that targeting matrix on BS 3 ships and Wraithlords I guess. Everything else was vanilla as hell.

>no codex in 5th ed they eventually fell out of favor.
They were basically kept alive by video game appearances.

>> No.23698071

>>23698051
>ELVES IN SPACE WITH LESS OF THE AWESOME AND MORE OF THE WHINE

>> No.23698083

>>23698071

Tell that to the Dark Eldar.

>> No.23698084

>>23697976
>Necrons
>Fluff

Pfft. They were babby's first army.

>MINDLISS ROBITS
then their new shit by Ward.

Cool fluff, clearly better than the decades of Eldar fluff that got overshadowed and retconned for GW's wallet.

>> No.23698090

>>23698071
They even gave you little green sticks so you don't have to paint!

>> No.23698095

>>23698065
>Where the fuck where you at?
Australia
>3rd? Nah
Aliatoc rangher spam, biel tan fall of altansar lists, indestrucatble seer councils, starcannon spam, holofalcons.
>They were basically kept alive by video game appearances.
sadly true

>> No.23698103

>>23697190
I'll bite...

Got any idea on how warlocks will work?

Any new stats on basic catapults?

>> No.23698140

>>23698103
>warlocks
Same as now.
Hopefully they go back to being 11pts.

>> No.23698143

>>23698103
I'd expect warlocks to change very little, maybe a couple of new powers but atm they function fine.

Catapult wise increasing the range to 18" seems likely, I would like a option to swap them out for Lasblasters (which I prefer over cats on my Corsairs)

>> No.23698169

>>23698103
>>23698143
Personally I want catapults to go back to being stormbolters.

and I really hope shuriken cannons hit 36"

>> No.23698195

>>23697983

This is sorta true, Eldar were still stupid good until the 5th edition codexes started rolling in.

Remember when everyone screamed about 5th edition vanilla marines being overpowered?

Oh how we've crept since then...

>> No.23698221

>>23697800
>It's sexist and offensive.

> normal human women
> capable of holding their own against genetically modified men who exist only for war

Unless you're saying it's sexist against men you've got absolutely no ground to stand on. The Sisters of battle are shown in no worse ligh than any other faction in 40k. I can't even imagine what you could possibly be complaining about.

>> No.23698229

>>23696126
>>23696184
Everguard are a unit that has been mentioned in the fluff before (there's a picture of em in the current Eldar codex; they have very tall helmets, long cloaks and are armed with spears). Based on the context of the picture and the name, it would seem their job is guarding important areas of the Craftworld.

>> No.23698235

>>23698195
>power creep
its funny because late 4th ed dropped the power curve way back down, and then 5th ed jacked it back up again.

>> No.23698257

>>23698221

It's more the necessity of their existence in the first place.

>hurr marens are sausage fest
>how do we create the illusion of gender equality
>herp hamfisted VAGINA ONLY faction that exists because of a contrived clause derp

Personally I only care about the fact that we don't have enough female kits for guards. I couldn't give a fuck about the sisters.

>> No.23698258

>>23694570

I kinda like how utterly casual that murder seems; like this guardsman absolutely got the drop on him in the panel just beforehand and the next just cuts to this happening.

>> No.23698266

>>23698229

So it's just the Eternal Guard in spess?

>> No.23698282

>>23698266
Its these guys.
I just know they will end up being shit.

>> No.23698304

>>23698257

Are you really saying that the background for the sisters and even the entire in-universe reason why they exist isn't probably the most interesting and unique background for any of the factions in 40k?

Can you prove that what you said is the reason for why they exist? Furthermore how is it an illusion of gender equality and not just actual gender equality? How do you determine if it's illusory or not, at least to a degree where you can confidently say it's illusory.

> faction that exists because of a contrived clause derp

And Macduff only slew Macbeth because of a contrived clause in Macbeth's prophecy, and Eowyn slew the Witch-King because of a similarly contrived clause in the Witch-King's prophecy.

Contrived clauses aren't bad, they're a mark of good literature.

>> No.23698327

>>23698282

Holy shit. This is the image that defined my idea of the Eldar... are you sure that's not just an exarch?

If that really is an Eeverguard, I am hype.

>> No.23698334

>>23698304

>the reason why they exist
>interesting
>Hey guys, we're not allowed to have any armed men
>hey, let's arm women!
>top lel

>> No.23698336

>>23698327
>>23698282
Yup, I am really hoping we go back to 3rd ed Eldar, both fluff and stats wise.

Hell even playing with the 3.5ed codices in 6th edition would be better than the 4th ed codex.

>> No.23698392

You know something I'd really like? An Eldar SC known for his or her own somewhat unconventional style of war. They adapt to the battlefield in their own unique way, with the fluff giving the suggestion that they're on their way to becoming a new phoenix lord and founding a temple.

>> No.23698409

>>23695294

>Point gun at squad of Guardsmen
>DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE
>Move on

The best weapon.

>> No.23698421

>>23695294
mindbullets

>> No.23698474

I think I'd like to see the Hornet and Warp Hunter fom IA:tDoM make it to the new book. Warp hunter especially.

>> No.23698593

>>23697711
I never said that Khaine was a C'tan.

>> No.23698632

>>23697634
C'tan are gas creatures now? Just a few editions back they were energy leeches. Yesterday someone claimed that they are actually the laws of physics given sentience. And now someone claims that they're gas creatures stuck in metal bodies.

Can someone light the Neckbeard Signal?

>> No.23698839

>>23696063
I can see the future
>New Eldar codex comes out
>No more individual Aspec kits are sold
>Replaced by a single kit to make ten of any one aspect
>Costs $100 per box

>> No.23702401

The actual Everguard pic.

>> No.23702666

>>23702401
Huh, well, there you go. Although, seeing as I can't imagine the couple of Eldar blokes forgetting they they already drew Everguard, I'm not sure how well that would mesh with a duo-kit with Spiders, barring a total redesign, which isn't impossible.

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