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Kriegers.

>> No.22762547

on a side not... is anyone else' 4chan pass not working?

>> No.22762573

>> No.22762575

>>22762547
>buying 4chan pass

Completely_stoic_Kriegers.jpg

>> No.22762609

>>22762575
Better then captcha.
Speaking of which, after a bit of experimenting, the pass IS working, I can just still see the captcha.

>> No.22762673

>> No.22762839

>> No.22762871

I'm always game for Krieger.

>> No.22762875

>>22762575

>> No.22762938

>>22762875
So, /tg/. How do you like to play your Kriegers?

>> No.22762984

>>22762938
Quiet and ruthless like they should be

>> No.22763006

> poor man's steel legion

>> No.22763007

>>22762938
The completely monotone, "no hope" guy with unshakable morale.

>> No.22763012

>>22762938
Fey and prone to giggling fits.

>> No.22763028

>> No.22763038

>>22762938

>> No.22763042

>>22763006

>> No.22763047

>>22763012
Good god i think that would demoralize a bloodletter

Imagine charging a bunch of guys with gasmasks and greatcoats that are audibly giggling

>> No.22763062

>>22763047
Charge? Fuck that. I'd frolic with them.

>> No.22763070

>>22763007
Yeah, fatalistic but drawing strength from it. Like WWII Samurai

>> No.22763085

>>22762871

This one always gives me feels...

>>22762938

Shell shocked and ruined. Full blown PTSD...And yet still fighting!

>> No.22763088

>> No.22763094

>>22762547
>>22762527
>>22762573
>>22762673
>>22762839
>>22762871

Read dead men walking. Then you will not be so inclined for this sillyness...

>> No.22763103

>>22763070
>implying I would want to be part of an IG force made of violent criminals and gangs

>> No.22763117

>>22763012

>> No.22763133

>>22763094
>Implying Dead men walking isn't a shitty novel
>implying that BL novels don't contradict each other like fucking crazy (far more than FFG or GW shit) and are just popular fanfiction in terms of reliability

>> No.22763148

>>22763103
Whoops, meant to address>>22763006

>> No.22763171

>>22763088

>Steel Legion

>> No.22763172

>>22763094
>Implying that DMW doesn't make us enjoy the silliness all the more.

I played a Krieger in RT once. Was the seneschal of the ship, and he ran a tight one.

>> No.22763185

>>22763085
it looks like that grenadier is sticking his gun up a giant grenadiers nose.

>> No.22763203

>>22763088
That's the Steel Legion mate.

You can easily spot the difference between them. Kreigers dress in black black and act like no-hope teenage faggots, while Steel Legionnaires are professional fucking soldiers.

>> No.22763204

>>22763094
>taking grimdark seriously

You big silly sausage, you.

>> No.22763224

>>22763133
Oh don't get me wrong, it was abysmally written. But. It sure as hell set the tone for who the kriegers are.

>> No.22763227

>>22763204
There's a difference between grim darkness and grimderp, something that a few fa/tg/uys can't differentiate. Warhammer as parody can work, but it's definitely not the only way.

>> No.22763231

>>22763103
> violent criminals and gangs
> steel legion

Learn your Guardsmen son. Steel Legion are the best mechanized force in the Imperial Guard and made up of professionals.

>> No.22763238

>>22763224
FW and the Armageddon dex did a far better job of tone.

>> No.22763244

>>22763203

Professional? HAH!

Men of Krieg a born for war! Live for war! Die for war!

Steel Legion can't even clear Orcs from a single damn Hiveworld. With marine support.

>> No.22763253

I have a serious problem: I can't decide between Steel Legion and Elysians. They're both so cool.

>> No.22763255

>>22763231
Did you not read the IG codex or the 5th ed book?
It directly states that not only is the Steel Legion "thick with the ranks of conscripted hive gangers", but also home to some of the most dangerous gangs on Armageddon.

>> No.22763257

>>22763224
> It sure as hell set the tone for who the kriegers are

Two-dimensional cartoons?

>>22763227
Kreiger are inherent grimderp. Taking them seriously is a mistake, and only leads to faggotry.

>> No.22763264

>>22763172
Hogan?

>> No.22763274

>>22763253
Go Steel Legion.

>> No.22763277

>>22763203
>>22763231
>Kriegers
>Teenage faggots
>Emoting ever at all

I do like the Steel Legion, though.

>> No.22763279

>>22763257
Why? Their attitude bears a great deal of resemblance to the soldiers of Imperial Japan, which, imo, are full of badasses.

>> No.22763286

>>22763264
Nope, sorry.

>> No.22763294

>>22762527
Mordian Iron Guard called, just letting ya'll know we have better uniforms.

>> No.22763328

>>22763294
Sorry, what was that? I couldn't hear you over the artillery barrage shelling you to pieces while we chill in our earthworks.

>> No.22763345

>>22763294
Seriously Mordian, where the hell where you?

These ill-disciplined, pathetic excuses for soldiers are trying to act tough. You and I know where its at; we fight on a Night World, against huge hordes of Chaos, by our own. Kriegers just let themselves die, they performed horribly on Vraks, and the Steel Legion just ride around in tanks all day! We march like soldiers, we fight like soldiers, we die like soldiers. We stand when we face our enemy, and should it come to it, we die standing!

>> No.22763378

>>22763328
Kriegan dog, I can't hear you over the sounds of your planet still in nuclear winter.

We have artillery, we have tanks, we have mobile divisions; we just advance implacably. You are children who act strong, calling your cowardice 'siege warfare'. Us Mordians would of taken Vraks in two years; you took twelve.

>> No.22763379

>>22763294
Also, the point of dead men walking is that it lets you know that Kreigers really don't give a shit about their own lives. They feel guilty to a death wish extent. Just because the book is shit doesn't mean that you can't learn something about the death corps.

>> No.22763383

>>22763328
>actually bragging about hiding in the mud

>> No.22763399

>>22763328
>>22763383
See Kriegan? Even the Xenos witches mock you. You are a disgrace to an Emperor with a Heretic's past. We stood our ground and fought on for our world, and you blew your world up instead. Get out of here.

Mordian master race forever!

>> No.22763404

>>22763383
Imperial guard may be plebians, but they are plebians who will shit kick your titchy craftworlds.

>> No.22763408

>>22763279
The soldiers of Imperial Japan weren't very good, and were mostly suicidally brave because they had been tortured so badly during basic training they were terrified to disobey any order given by a commanding officer. They were boys traumatized and brutalized into becoming some of the most repugnant troops of the conflict.

If you were the idiot that called them samurai, you should kindly shut the fuck up on the subject.

They were rapists, looters, and ill disciplined shits kept in line by officers that thought nothing of shooting a civilian for looking at them the wrong way.

The Imperial Japanese Army was the opposite of a well disciplined military machine, and had more in common than the rampaging conscript legions of Soviet Russia than they did with 'samurai'.

> the navy and air force however, were brave, heroic badasses more in the tradition of the old Japanese warrior code

>> No.22763409

>>22763399
*disgrace to the Emperor, you with your Heretic's past.

I couldn't type correctly, I was too busy bayoneting Traitors like I do erry day.

>> No.22763411

>>22763378
>Talking shit about Krieger tanks
>Mfw
Our operators kind of suck, as you can see. Tanks are great though.

>> No.22763421

>>22763404
Why sir, are you daring to imply we are common folk? The Dragoons will never stand for this!

>> No.22763445

>>22763411
Your cloned mind can't even understand my Vox text correctly.

I do not insult your equipment. I insult your tactics, and I call you cowards.

>> No.22763475

>>22763203
>getting mauled by soccer hooligan monsters all day erry day
>professional fucking soldiers

Pick one before I krump ya oomie

>> No.22763477

>>22763383
>The filthy mon'keigh hiding in the mud are stealing your women

>> No.22763480

>>22763294
Trenchcoats will never die,

>> No.22763485

>>22763477
>They don't even have to try

>> No.22763488

>>22763408
>If you were the idiot that called them samurai, you should kindly shut the fuck up on the subject.
No, I wasn't. And, actually, I wish you would kindly shut the fuck up now, because you clearly have no idea how the Japanese army was in your own masturbatory fap-fest to your own country. It's funny when retards like you try to call other people out in historical inaccuracy when you probably can't even spell your own country.

>> No.22763499

>>22763421
Look at the most irrelevant and worthless regiment, look and laugh everyone.
Pack up and go home glory boy, before our tanks use you for "target practice".

>> No.22763507

>>22763485
That. That is cool. That I like.

>> No.22763521

>>22763507
You are now picturing Eldar Kriegers.

>> No.22763524

>>22763488
'MERICA! It must be nice having such propaganda generating teachers. Yes, the japanese were brutal, unacceptably so. But that does not mean that they were ill disciplined. And they were suicidly brave.

>> No.22763525

>>22763485
>>22763477
I'd agree with you.. if you weren't talking to a warlock. Witchblades get the bitches.

>> No.22763537

>>22763521
'm sorry, my imperial brain just instantly thought i t was a cadian. Or something. Not xenos. ELDAR MIND GAMES!!! PURGE!!!

>> No.22763547

>>22763408
>The Imperial Japanese Army was the opposite of a well disciplined military machine

lol'd fucking hard 7/10

>> No.22763548

>>22763477
>>22763485
You humans can't tell reality from your fantasy.

>> No.22763556

>>22763525
>>22763548
>Frilly, overly-gaudy nightgown
>Large bangles and pointless jewelry
>Effeminate body and hair
Face it. Your overly-emotional women love a strong, stoic Krieger.

>> No.22763559

>>22763547
No well-disciplined force goes around raping.

>> No.22763574

>>22763556
Or really any guardsmen. Curse you commisars! Curse you... bang.

>> No.22763576

>>22763547
Please see: Rape of Nanking, Rape of Berlin.

>> No.22763578

>>22763488

And what country would that be?

>> No.22763590

>>22763559
Guess the US Marines and Wehr weren't either then.

>> No.22763593

>>22763378
>would of
>of

Shiggy, they sure let standards slip in the Fag Brigade.

>> No.22763595

>>22763257
>40k is inherent grimderp. Taking it seriously is a mistake, and only leads to faggotry.

>> No.22763597

>>22763559
It does when they're given complete authorization to do so by their superiors.

"Disciplined" just means following orders. If the orders are horrible things that they'd do anyways, they're still disciplined.

>> No.22763598

>>22763576
Then what country's army do you consider "disciplined"? Every side committed its own fair share of crimes.

>> No.22763605

>>22763590
>What is conscription/the draft?

>> No.22763614

>>22763524
>>22763547
Not the man mentioned, but the IJA were barbarians. While on the battlefield against worthy foes, like their EXCEPTIONAL performance in Burma or the Dutch East Indies against the British/Dutch respectively, they were disciplined. Yet outside of the battlefield, they had a notorious reputation for being cruel, undisciplined, and almost villainous in their treatment of POWs and civilians. Unlike the Nazis though, who methodically butchered people, the Japs tortured, raped, experimented on, and pillaged civilian settlements, terrorizing people like the Gestapo did but on a larger scale. The Rape of Nanking, the 'Prostitute Army', and their various human 'Unit' research stations are examples.

>> No.22763617

It's funny that the two threads in this conversation are:

1) People talking about how dumb and unrealistic "grimdark" stuff is

2) People talking about the Rape of Nanking and other atrocities

Maybe you guys should, you know, swap notes?

>> No.22763620

>>22763556
>overly-emotional
Craftworlders are extremely repressed, emotionally. Like, they have to, if they want to survive.

themoreyouknow.jpg

>> No.22763621

>>22763590
Agreed. I think that all americans should just not be allowed to voice there "opinions" on history. There should be some auto block or something. The best part is how they all think it's true. Like a religion or something...

>> No.22763623

>>22763605
That doesn't address the point. What kind of (actual) army then, do you consider disciplined by your standards?

>> No.22763626

>>22763590
Guess not.

>>22763597
>behavior in accord with rules of conduct; behavior and order maintained by training and control

Just means their officers didn't practice discipline then.

>> No.22763628

>>22763598
I didn't say any of them were. I simply said that by the metric we're using, the Imperial Army was most definitely NOT 'disciplined' except in that they were beaten like dogs until their tails tucked.

>> No.22763629

>>22763614
>"disciplined" means "moral"
I don't even.

>> No.22763636

>>22763574
>bang

Thats HERESY *BLAM* Thats how you do it!

>> No.22763643

>>22763626
>behavior in accord with rules of conduct
"Rules of Conduct" set by the Imperial Japanese Army, not the Geneva Convention. There's more than one type of "lawful", idiot.

>> No.22763650

>>22763524
Not American.

And while they were certainly suicidal, I wouldn't call them brave. They were taught they if they surrendered they would be tortured to death by the enemy. They killed themselves for the same reason the civilians killed themselves rather than surrender. Bravery has nothing to do with it. They truly believed surrender wasn't an option.

They weren't entirely wrong. American soldiers did tend to kill any Japanese that tried to surrender, because some of them honestly -did- try to give up. A fair number were kept in POW camps in Australia and NZ.

But the Japanese Army wasn't a good one, and the soldiers were on the whole not very good. They had the good fortune of making impressive early successes and having a lot of bodies to throw at any problem.

The best ground troops they had were part of the Navy.

>> No.22763654

>>22763614
>Unlike the Nazis though
Yeah, it's not like they conducted their own experiments. And it's not like the Wehr did their own crimes.

>German historians Soenke Neitzel and Harald Welze’s book, which has been translated into English, lies in stark contrast to the dispelled narrative that the Wehrmacht (Germany’s armed forces) were not significantly active in committing acts of barbarism during the second world war.

>A passage from the book reads as follows:

>Zotlöterer: “I shot a Frenchman from behind. He was riding a bicycle.”

>Weber: “At close range?”

>Zotlöterer: “Yes.”

>Heuser: “Did he want to take you prisoner?”

>Zotlöterer: “Nonsense. I wanted the bicycle.”

>> No.22763655

>>22763576
>Nanking

Using the example being disputed as the example? Lel.

>Berlin

Red Army was undisciplined, in fact Stalin explicitly let them go wild for days in Berlin to punish the Germans.

>> No.22763656

Kreig is awsome
So is Steel Legion
And just about every other guard variant

But seriously though, there need to be more fan art for the other legions.

>> No.22763661

>>22763244
>Can't clear Orks from a single hive world
>Defeated the two biggest Waaghs since the Great Crusade
Sorry it doesn't take us a decade to capture a single armoury world.

>> No.22763666

I SWEAR TO GOD I WILL TURN THIS THREAD AROUND!

>> No.22763671

>>22763620
>mon'keigh has sex with repressed catholic school girl-esque eldar slut
>midway through the debauchery servants of She Who Thirsts materialize and chop his dick off with their lobster claws

>> No.22763674

>>22763636
Implying that that shitty las pistol would make anything close to a bang. Never understood why the commissars had laspistols in that game...

>> No.22763684

>>22763620
Which is exactly why Kriegers are a comfortable jump.
Besides, they're manlier than you. Look at that tiny instrument. I bet there isn't even a bayonet mount on your gun. You couldn't entrench an open field, you sure as hell can't properly entrench a woman.

>> No.22763685

>>22763524
>>22763621
Also, you should seriously stop stereotyping Americans. I'm American, and I'm an anon that was support the Jap army.

>> No.22763688

>>22763590
Mass rape was never an actual policy of the US Marines or even the Germans.

It was of the IJF.

>> No.22763690

>>22763674
Neither do i...dammit all...

>> No.22763700

>> No.22763702

Kriegers are smalltime compared to our glorious facial hair and hats

>> No.22763711

>>22763666
From really shit to just shit?

>> No.22763713

>>22763559
British Army during the Napoleonic era was very tightly disciplined, but lost its shit when it won the Siege of Badajoz, raping and looting for three days.

>> No.22763718

>>22763688
So how does that info (even if true) prove that the Japanese army was not disciplined? If the US Marines and Wehrmacht broke orders by raping people, doesn't that make them the people who lack discipline?

>> No.22763724

>>22763688
That being said, please see the LGOP rule.

>> No.22763725

>>22763378
Two years? Steel Legion would have taken it in a month.

Guard Regiment Tiers
>God Tier
Armageddon Steel Legion
Tallarn Desert Raiders
>High Tier
Mordian Iron Guard
Vostroyan Firstborn
>Mid Tier
Valhallan Ice Warriors
Cadians
>Low Tier
Catachans
>Shit Tier
Death Korps of Krieg

>> No.22763730

>> No.22763733

>>22763718
Conscript infantry, sir. Conscript infantry.

>> No.22763743

>that company was corrupt, it stole millions from people
>"nuh-uh! it was part of the company's official procedures to steal from people. that mean's it's not corrupt

>> No.22763746

I need more Death Korps.

>> No.22763752

>>22763674
i never understood why it had the cocking noise if its a laspistol

>> No.22763753

>>22763730
Thousands of them...

>> No.22763757

>>22763733
The fuck kind of defense is this? Are you trying to say the only serious war crimes that occurred were those done by conscripts?

>> No.22763764

>>22763752
Maybe las clip being awkwardly slotted in? idk, grasping at straws.

>> No.22763773

>>22763746
I'M TRYIN' CAP'N! I'M TRYIN'!

>> No.22763779

>Not fielding mechanized steel legion supported by entrenched death korps.
>42000
>ISHYGDDT

>> No.22763782

>>22763757
No. I'm saying that conscript infantry as a general rule is extremely ill-trained, ill-disciplined, and has a predisposition to fuck things up whenever it feels like it. Well-disciplined troops do not go off and start raping and breaking shit whenever they get bored--conscript infantry does, and tends to be held in check only by the fear of reprisal if they fuck something up. See Soviet Union, Imperial Japan.

Back on topic, KRIEGER.

>> No.22763787

>> No.22763793

ITT: "Huuuurrrrrr... XD"

>> No.22763801

>>22762527
Kriegers look awesome. However I couldn't bring myself to play as an army inspired from Germany. Mainly cause I want the Praetorians back. WHY GW? WHY?

>> No.22763805

>> No.22763808

>>22763787
I wonder how many times people thought she was a nazi.

>> No.22763810

>> No.22763814

>>22763684
>Besides, they're manlier than you.
Not really. When you get down to it, Kriegers are pretty detached from gender.

>Look at that tiny instrument.
You mean the blade that's the size of a grown man?

>I bet there isn't even a bayonet mount on your gun.
Why have a bayonet on your gun when all of your bullets are blades

>You couldn't entrench an open field
Conceal gives the same mechanical benefit as entrenching would, if you wanted to be pedantic. And a single warlock can conceal an entire platoon's worth of Eldar.

>you sure as hell can't properly entrench a woman.
Pretty funny coming from a dead man walking. You can't even perform an Eldar shocker

>> No.22763816

>>22763805

>> No.22763823

>>22763725
Based on looks

High
>Death Korps of Krieg
>Armageddon Steel Legion
Good
>Vostroyan Firstborn
>Mordian Iron Guard
Mid
>Valhallan Ice Warriors
>Cadians
Shit
>Catachans

>> No.22763826

>>22763801
Is that a striking scorpion or what? Why does it have some kind of active camouflage? Why does she have blood on both of her boots? Was she walking all over it or something?

>> No.22763832

SIR! We're runnign low on Sexy Kriegers, permission to dive into the other Regiments?

>> No.22763837

>>22763733
All WW 2 armies were conscription-based to one degree or the other. Even Germans, because without it they wouldn't have the numbers neccesery.

>> No.22763840

>>22763816
Chem-Chan! Reporting in!

>> No.22763844

>>22763832
Granted.

>> No.22763846

>>22763826
>implying it isn't proper to dance on the corpses of your enemies.

>> No.22763868

>>22763844
Permission acknowledged. Deploying the Lt.

>> No.22763872

>>22763832
Permission granted! Go! Go! Go!

>> No.22763879

>>22763823
Nah bro, Vostroyans are kings when it comes to looking cool.

>> No.22763882

>> No.22763885

>>22763868
There isn't even anything about that image that is related to 40k.

>> No.22763893

>>22763885
wat

>> No.22763896

>> No.22763897

>>22763868
The Codex Astartes says just because your junk still works doesn't mean it's not a gateway to becoming a noise marine.

>> No.22763901

>>22763872
Vostroyan Firstborn reporting in! Ignore filename sir! Somebody said I was a Mordian Iron Guard!

>> No.22763902

>>22763823
Based on Combat Ability

God
>Cadian
High
>Steel Legion
>Catachan
Mid
Everyone Else

>> No.22763910

>>22763885
I... what? Did... you know read the text? Did you not play Space Marine?

>> No.22763917

I can't hear you guys over the sound of all this freedom.

>> No.22763919

>>22763893
It's a woman wearing some kind of military style shirt. What is even the point at that rate? Just draw a naked woman with a plain background.

>> No.22763921

Top IG planets:
>Praetorian
>Steel legion
>Mordian

deal w/ it

>> No.22763922

Psykers are part of the IG, right?

>> No.22763925

>>22763902
>Cadians
>God
>Cannot even into WS 4

>> No.22763927

>>22763901
Can I keep this cape?

>> No.22763933

>>22763917
> torture-device

Is that faggot still being a faggot?

>> No.22763938

>>22763917

BROTHER!

>> No.22763940

>>22763910
Again, if you just take the aquila out there is nothing distinguishing about this. If you're going to shoehorn drawings of that kind into 40k you'd think they'd at least put some effort into it.

>> No.22763944

>>22763902
>God tier
>Cadians
The Cadians are undoubtedly the best Imperial Guardsmen ever. Yes, really! Thanks to the heritage of Creed and their myriad heroic deeds, the Cadians are the exemplars of the Imperial Guard. With a few fringe exceptions... all Guard reigments want to be like the Cadians and recognize Uskair Creed as their spiritual liege.

>> No.22763945

>>22763921
I whole heartedly agree, my dear chap.

>> No.22763948

>> No.22763951

>>22763919
It's Lt. Mira from the game Space Marine. Referring to the Codex Astartes.
Do you even know what Warhammer 40,000 IS?

>> No.22763952

>>22763940

It looks. Like the character. From the game.

>> No.22763954

>>22763814
>Not really. When you get down to it, Kriegers are pretty detached from gender.
I can assure you, Kriegers know very well how to take care of ladies. Very, very well.

>You mean the blade that's the size of a grown man?
No. The silly little doodad you had in your hand a moment ago. What kind of instrument is that? You can't play marching songs on that.

>Why have a bayonet on your gun when all of your bullets are blades?
Because shooting blades is wasteful, and thus so are you. I thought your kind were supposed to be almost as disciplined as we are?

>Conceal gives the same mechanical benefit as entrenching would, if you wanted to be pedantic. And a single warlock can conceal an entire platoon's worth of Eldar.
Conceal won't save you from the artillery being dropped on your head, or the wall of lead that an enemy gunline will put out.

>Pretty funny coming from a dead man walking. You can't even perform an Eldar shocker.
I don't see you with a knife-eared xeno in your arms. Maybe your shocker isn't so shocking after all?

>> No.22763961

>>22763244
All that jelly from not being able to afford chimeras

>> No.22763962

>>22763782
Doesn't excuse the fact that professional soldiers of all sides committed their own heinous acts.

>> No.22763964

>>22763925
It's based on fluff
>holding the line for 10,000 years against the fucking eye of terror

>> No.22763966

>>22763938

>> No.22763967

>>22763925
Do you even Creed?

>> No.22763969

>> No.22763971

Terranis Holds.

>> No.22763972

>>22763253
Chimeras or Valks?

>> No.22763976

>> No.22763977

>>22763919
>Implying that's not Mira
>Implying she wasn't about to jump on titus' dick before the =I= ruined it.

>> No.22763980

>>22763962
Jesus christ, no. It doesn't excuse it at all.

>> No.22763983

>>22763964
Anybody could hold the line for 10,000 years against this.

>> No.22763990

>>22763954
>Conceal won't save you from the artillery being dropped on your head
Yes it will? It's camouflage and cover all in one.

You do realize why that's a good thing, right? Why artillery batteries tend to have camouflaged positions.. right?

I guess it's too much to expect a krieger to understand trench warfare, though

>> No.22763995

>>22763969
Drookians! We need more!

>> No.22763998

>>22763782
So, what WW 2 armies do you consider "professional"?

>> No.22764003

>>22763964
Holding the line against what, an occasional Chaos raid? Steel Legion held their world against a daemon primarch and the two largest Ork invasions since the Great Crusade, without support until they halted them in the second war for armageddon.

>>22763967
>Do you even getting their entire high command sans Creed murdered by Chaos in one battle?
One competent officer doesn't make up for the incompetence of a dozen.

>> No.22764010

>>22763990
>Implying your Eldar definitions of 'cover' will save you from anything a Krieg regiment brings to bear

>> No.22764014

>> No.22764025

I need pictures of Pilots and Navy girls! I have none.

>> No.22764027

>>22764014

>> No.22764033

>>22764003
They're like the Ultramarines, since the guard and space marines have come out, they've been the best ever because GW said so.

>> No.22764036

Am I good at art yet? Should I start my own deviant art? More aquillas?

>> No.22764040

>>22763998
With the exception of certain elite units (SAS, OSS, possibly Waffen SS) I wouldn't call -any- army of the era professional. Like someone already said, they're all mainly conscript-based. I -do- however think that most other armies were held to a... I won't say higher here. A -markedly different- standard than the Japanese or Soviet militaries.

>> No.22764042

tfw when Ultramarines get ultraboners for cadians.

That's why Leandros called in the =I=, to remove the competition.

>> No.22764043

Vostroyan master race reporting in

>> No.22764045

>> No.22764047

>>22764036
Needs more purity seals

>> No.22764056

>>22764036
Needs skulls and pauldrons.

>> No.22764058

>>22764036
Just wanted to call you out as an asshole.

>> No.22764062

>>22764056
Obviously not as evidenced by this thread.

>> No.22764065

>>22764056
She's not a space marine, anon.

>> No.22764067

Elysians reporting in

>> No.22764068

>> No.22764070

>>22764058
That may or may not be true, but it doesn't make this tripe any less bad and lazy.

>> No.22764076

>>22763718
The Japanese took rape to a whole new level. They don't call it the 'rape of nanking for nothing

>> No.22764086

lets just plant the seeds of heresy...

>> No.22764090

>Steel legion in a nutshell
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oodTuhaLYpU

>Death korps in a nutshell
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fssPqRWx9U0

that's pretty much how it works

>> No.22764111

>>22764086
>mark of nurgle
would not touch without hazmat suit and the thickest condom I could find.

>> No.22764115

>> No.22764117

>>22764086

>> No.22764126

>>22764111
... You act as if that's the first time you've seen Chultist-chan.

>> No.22764143

>>22764090

... Pretty much.

>> No.22764150

You know I just realized.
Krieg parents are probably the only parents who want you to knock up their daughter as quickly as possible

>> No.22764162

>>22763998
Australian Army, NZ Army.
>>22764040
Waffen SS was conscript based as well.

>> No.22764167

>>22764090
>All my lulz, I remember that
.....
>All my feels, fuck you

>> No.22764176

>>22764150

Bonus...

>> No.22764180

>> No.22764181

>>22764150
I like the one on the left. He seems so sad.

>> No.22764205

>>22764162
Fair enough. But professional armies do not fair that well in large-scale conflicts.

>> No.22764211

>>22764181
Of course he's miserable. He should in his natural habitat, a hole in the ground shovel in hand

>> No.22764224

>>22764211
And delicious sensitive-eared xenos to entrench with

>> No.22764225

>>22764211
so basically a human mole?

>> No.22764239

>>22763954
So you like siege warfare, eh? We'll get along well enough.

>> No.22764248

>>22764205
Depends. For an expeditionary force a professional army performs far better, for home defense or near abroad conscripts are better, mainly because you can have so many of them.

>> No.22764253

>>22764224

>> No.22764279

>>22764248
Give me an example of low number professional army being effective in a conventional conflict.

>> No.22764281

I'm currently building a Bluhd Rahvens space marine army and was thinking of having Kriegers to represent chapter serfs. Good idea, bad idea? I can't think of 40k any other models/rulesets that would do it better and even then, it doesn't fit very well

>> No.22764288

>>22764253
10/10 would allow to reinforce my breastworks

>> No.22764297

>>22764239
I gave a good idea to represent Iron Warriors mortal servants with Kriegers.

>> No.22764300

>> No.22764309

>>22764279
Prussia. The Caroleans of Sweden.

>> No.22764312

>>22764279
Australian Army, Afghanistan and Iraq.

>> No.22764318

>>22764279
Gulf War (not exactly low numbers), 2nd Australian Imperial Force in North Africa, British army in Korea.
Not too many though.

>> No.22764324

>>22764297
It's not like they bolster their forces very differently

>> No.22764336

>> No.22764351

>>22764279
Does the French Foreign Army counts?

>> No.22764353

>that feel when no one cares about Mordians

>> No.22764355

>>22764312
>Afghanistan
>conventional conflict
Nope. Conventional conflicts are Arab-Israeli wars, Gulf wars, Korea to a certain extent, a war between to comparable powers waged by combined arms.

>> No.22764365

>>22764351
Foreign Legion, anon-kun. Foreign Legion.

>>22764353
Hearing about their shitty homeworld kind of killed the boner I had for them. I loved their Prussian feel up until that point.

>> No.22764367

>>22764353

Those who fight in full dress are full retard.

>> No.22764381

"Why do they call them Corpse-men, Sergeant?"
I remember the Imperial campaign on Saiga well. Everyone did. You can’t simply forget about the kind of things you see there.
"First, Corporal Cyril, it’s because these men are organize their units into “Korps”. And second, it’s because they’re about as human as one.
I saw Cyril chuckle briefly, remembering how much my own first impression mirrored his. But like his, it was only by word. Humor is man’s way of disguising his fear.
“Let me tell you something Cyril. When you look in a normal man’s eyes, Cyril, what do you see? His hopes, his fears? His dreams, his desires?
The men around me fell silent.
“There is nothing to see a corpse-man’s eyes. They have no hopes, for penance allows for none. They fear no man, for how is the wrath of any man worse than the heresy of treason? They have no desires, save for the one given to them. When you gaze into the face of a man from Krieg, know that what stares back at you is an intelligence utterly alien in thought.”

>> No.22764392

>>22764351
>Dien Bien Phu
True effectiveness right there.

>> No.22764409

>>22764392
>Discounting Mexico, WW1, WW2
>One data point
Don't be silly.

>> No.22764423

>> No.22764424

>>22764381
A black tide enveloped the horizon. There they came, silent as death. Every step in perfect concordance. Every soulless mask trained on the objective. We didn’t even see a breakin their lines when our entire trench line lit up with automatic fire.
Their steady march turned into a charge, and like a horde of insects, they carpeted the broken ground in their relentless advance. A mortar would detonate in the middle of their ranks, spraying viscera and mangled limbs over the sodden floor. The others would not even take note of the dying or the dead, as they were intent on one goal: to end our lives, or die trying.

>> No.22764430

>>22764365
...Considering most of them were criminals? Or atleast quitea bit of them were, looking for french citizenship after...FUCK forgot how many years of "service"

>> No.22764432

>>22764409
>WW 2

>> No.22764441

>>22764432
>Free French
They kept fighting long after they were whipped. Give them some credit for that.

>> No.22764450

>>22764430
>Realizing he corrected the Army-Legion

HERP DERP - i so need to stfu and sleep now...

>> No.22764458

>> No.22764462

>>22764430
Just because someone was a criminal doesn't make them incapable of being an effective professional soldier.

>> No.22764465

>>22764458
dammit Slaneesh...

>>22764462
Thats what i meant...till i realized my derpiness>>22764450

>> No.22764471

How come nobody loves the Harakoni Warhawks?

>> No.22764487

>>22764441
Still, the French army wasn't a voluteer army.

>> No.22764496

>> No.22764556

>> No.22764566

>>22763445
>Still believing Kriegers are cloned.

>> No.22764571

I remember when my beloved Death Korps where just chapter approved, and no one knew who they where...
hipster-derp

>> No.22764621

Needs more Chaos

>> No.22764632

Mobile support has arrived.

>> No.22764663

>>22764556
>>22764496
>>22763901
>>22763882


holy shit I just gained a new waifu.

This doesn't happen often, I swear.

>> No.22764705

>>22764150
>Go on date with qt Kriegette.
>Well... not that you can see past the gasmask.
>Drop her off at midnight as I promised.
>Jokingly say "Don't worry, Mr. Dunkelburg! No funny business happened."
>Mr. Dunkelburg pulls out a lasgun, "I cannot allow that, Anon. Come inside and take off your pants."
>mfw

>> No.22764707

>>22764300

>sniff

That would be me

>> No.22764778

>> No.22764789

>>22764705
>Krieg sex

>*thump thump thump*
>*slightly louder thumping, still no sounds from the two kiregs*
>*thump thump-silece.*
>Few seconds pass
>Krieigette: Hmm, well done.
>the next day she's the equivalent of three months pregnant
>Vitae-womb.tm

>> No.22764807

>>22764789
little bit o' this thrown in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQMhp8DxjiQ

>> No.22764842

>>22764778
Hey I know that picture

>> No.22764890

>>22764807
>recommended videos
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLV1R_j_gvk

I don't even

>> No.22764983

Frag out!

>> No.22765227

>>22763408
...
wut

Imperial Japanese soldiers were some of the best. They were tough, fanatical, and well trained. They'd do thing other nation's soldiers wouldn't do, on less than other soldiers, for less than other soldiers, and they'd do it without complaint unlike other soldiers. Their issue is that they were poorly equipped and usually led by morons. The average soldier would fuck you up, then fuck your wife because you weren't human to them. They'd been drilled into that since they were 13 and drilled a bit more when they were conscripted then drilled even more day by day. For all of its discipline it's still privy to the effects of morale. China was supposed to be an easy win for the Japanese buti t was longer and harder than they expected and morale was low when they got to Nanking. The Officers in charge chose not to restrain their men and instead promised them loot and women to bring up morale. When the actual commanding officer got to Nanking and saw what they had done he ordered an immediate halt to the whole damn process, orders his subordinates failed to carry out in a timely manner and the guy got hung for it after the war. He couldn't have the officers shot, it'd cause havoc in the command structure and would fuck up morale so he had to suck it up.

>> No.22765244

>>22765227
Ahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
no

>> No.22765420

>>22765227
Part of the evidence in that trial was movies of the soldiers killing/raping people, made for propaganda purposes. A horny soldier isn't gonna operate 1940s movie camera and package it for his CO without orders and organization.

>> No.22765929

bump

>> No.22765980

>>22765929
The thread is probably going to start to autosage in a few minutes, if it hasn't already.

>> No.22769742

>>22765227
they were some of the best that japan had to offer, which wasnt much given a low population, that was beaten by a massive amount of united states grade A ass kicking and 2 nukes, their suicidal charges got them killed more often than not, their weapons were shit compared to the durable and reliable american weapons

all their boats and air planes blew up, sank, or self destroyed, they were chased from hide-y -holes with flame throwers and artillery strikes from nearby ships and airplanes

they did a wonderful job of defending the civilian population, from firebombing white phosphorus attacks which burned down hole cities over night as the Japanese thought using mostly wood in home and building construction was a good idea

also the japanese commited a lot of fucking warcrimes by using a water treatment plant located in china to test biological weapons on the population in china, and experimented on russians, southern asians, chinese, japanese,americans and british

yup, japan sure was tough and fanatical all the way till weather made it impossible to nuke the emperor's palace so they went on to the next city, the very notion of japan existing today is entirely caused by poor weather, which protected that city from becoming an ashtray

lets not forget what soviet union wanted to do to japan and china after world war 2

>> No.22770731

>>22769742

>beaten by a massive
Ditto. Huge industrial advantage was the key important thing in that war. That, and cracking their encryption codes in time.

They had some excellent aircraft and naval vessels. Their hideyholes were repeatedly shown to take a vast amount of american casualties to dig out.

Wood was a sensible option. Japan is very prone to earthquakes, at that stage, conventional building methods just wouldn't have been safe, or remotely permanent, not to mention affordable.

>> No.22770773

>>22770731
well, its japans fault for poking a country that is looking for an excuse to boost economy

>> No.22770839

>>22770731
and the united states was also attacking germany at the same time

the japanese couldnt crack american codes thanks to the native americans we were using in ww2

hideyholes always take a lot of casualties to clear out,but flame throwers and artillery help

wood is not a sensible option when it allows a few ten thousand to burn to death from a small stove fire

ive watched the history channel since i was 5, i know world war 2

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