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[ERROR] No.21798486 [Reply] [Original] [4plebs] [archived.moe]

It is okay to want to touch it, /tg/. That is the natural response to a face so sexy.

>> No.21798529

>>>/v/

>> No.21798561

give me my face back you cock-gargler

>> No.21798602

>posting a Borderlands thread on /tg/

Big mistake. BIG GODDAMN MISTAKE!

>> No.21798631

>>21798486
It's okay if you want to look at it, /tg/. As long as you don't touch it. He touches you, not the other way around

>> No.21798674

>>21798602
We... we like Borderlands though. It's fun, the setting is cool, and everyone secretly wants a gun that shoots fucking acid-bullets, don't lie to yourself.

>> No.21798680

saging because /v/, but this has always bothered me . . .
if the mask is attached to his face, what happens when he moves his jaw to talk?

>> No.21798750

>>21798680

Always bothered me that in a game featuring regeneration systems, guns that rebuild once they explode, assassins that can turn invisible and psychic powers, he can't just regrow his face.

>> No.21798772

>>21798750
I took it as a stylistic choice of his.

>> No.21798801

Rolled 1

>>21798680
It moves with his mouth, the mask is some really advanced shit
>>21798750
He doesn't just regenerate his face because his face was never injured in the first place and its implied he was born really ugly

>> No.21798804

>>21798750

Oh god, don't even think too hard about what the instantly-rebuilding guns/people means for that game. ("Why can't I just teleport in the best gun ever?") Really not a game that holds up to any sort of scrutiny, not that that should surprise anyone ever.

>> No.21798812

>>21798750
and I died dozens of times in both games, but shoot Roland just ONCE through the chest when I'm not playing him and it's somehow permanent?

>> No.21798831

Rolled 4

>>21798812
He was taken out of the new-u system by jack when he killed him

>> No.21798842

>>21798750
Dood

There is absolutely no reason that anyone in the Borderlands universe should be doing anything other than sitting on their ass enjoying the fruits of a post scarcity society, much less living a life of constant murderhoboing

>> No.21798856

>>21798804
naw, it made sense for Teidore to sell a device that can only make one type of gun. Remember that these guns are supposed to be cheap.

>>21798831
then why the FUCK would he leave me in?

>> No.21798868

Rolled 14

>>21798831
He wants the pleasure of killing the vault hunters himself especially after you kill his daughter

>> No.21798879

>>21798856

He wants to kill you again and again, is the normal reason given. I might have dreamt it, but I think I read the developers wanted to make it clear that the new-u system was a video game artifact available to only the player - hence the sarcastic comments, and the fact nobody ever refers to it in-game.

>> No.21798883

Roland's only dead so he can come back in the DLC. Calling it.

>> No.21798904

Rolled 4

>>21798879
I'm pretty sure that its tied to the HUD claptrap gives you at the start

>> No.21798918

Except that as previous player characters, they've all New-U'd (repeatedly), too.

>> No.21798924

>>21798868
I have to say, I liked Jack much better than any other BL BBEG.
I mean, going back to Fyrestone almost physically hurt, seeing all the shit jack put there.

>> No.21798986

>>21798924
Most feels-worthy moment of any video game I've ever played:
When the evil, murderous, megalomaniacal bastard trying to destroy everything you know and love begs,
"Please don't kill my baby girl..."
I had to pause the game to think about what I was doing with my life.

>> No.21799018

I was actually disappointed to discover that Angel was a siren all along. Especially because she said outright on more than a couple of occasions that she was an artificial intelligence. It means that I have to go back and retcon my Angel/GLaDOS/SHODAN three-way fanfiction.

>> No.21799031

>>21798986
oh yeah, and then only after you think about his password to Angel.
"I love you."

>> No.21799049

Not Angel/EDI/Cortana? Really, >>21799018?

>> No.21799071

>>21798750
Because his face was injured by Siren powers
Also learn to separate the vidya from the plot, it makes things easier to parse

>> No.21799080

>>21799049
>Implying EDI is hotter than GLaDOS
>Implying Cortana is hotter than SHODAN

>> No.21799096

>>21798904
The one he looted off a dead vault hunter, you mean.

>> No.21799114

>>21799031
Entirely. I thought that was a little sketchy, but I didn't really put too much consideration into it. That twist tops almost anything in any game or movie or book I've ever played/seen/read. It completely retcons everything from the original, especially after you collect the ECHO devices. Add location of the Hyperion Info Stockade, and it's just too many feels to handle. The best game I own right now, by far.

>> No.21799124

>>21799071

Well, yes, I've no issue with it, just seemed odd that no reason was given. Even the respawn system was given an "Eh, don't think about it too hard and go blow stuff up".

>> No.21799143

>>21799080
EDI's got a better body than GLaDOS, who is a potato.

Cortana has tits. SHODAN is just a face.

>> No.21799173

>>21799096
>A poor dead vault hunter that had no money to give to Hyperion.
fix'd

You know what I miss?
The old company power-levels. Like a white Atlas would just straight-up beat a green or maybe even blue Vladov of the same level. Added more complexity.
Also I miss old Jakobs.

>>21799143
It's about the personality, nigga.

>> No.21799186

>>21798831

I thought the New-U system wasn't real. Not in-universe, at least. It's a fun and convenient way to restart without breaking flow with RELOADING LAST CHECKPOINT (handy in a sandbox game) but not a single person who dies in the game is ever brought back by one and nobody ever seems to acknowledge they exist outside of the moments you use one. Ergo, they don't 'really' exist, they're just there for you.

>> No.21799200

>>21799143
>implying AI sex isn't completely digital anyway

>> No.21799242

>>21799031
Yeah, I have to admit, at the end of that game I felt really... conflicted.

I mean, sure, Jack was an asshole and a sociopath, but he thought he was doing good. It's just that havine been literally born and raised by Hyperion, he was so fucking brainwashed that he thought anyone without a suit and five-figure salary was worse than human and dragging down society.

And when you think about it, while he was overzealous as all shit, he wasn't exactly wrong. There wasn't a single person on Pandora that didn't have someone they wanted dead. Even the most sympathetic charachters straight-up ask you to kill someone at some point.

In the end, there are no heroes, or good guys on Pandora. Only Bastards, Bandits, and Badasses. I suppose that out of the three, you're lucky you get to be the third.

>> No.21799322

>>21799242
Yeah, I never really felt bad about putting him down. To me, he was ruining Pandora; getting rid of the wild exhilarating lawlessness of it for mediocrity and boredom. Didn't help that I hated Hyperion weapons and that bullshit reverse recoil either.

Only worse guns were Jakobs ARs and Dahl snipers (fuck you I don't want to shoot 5 times when I'm zoomed it, dammit).

>> No.21799348

>>21799322
At least you're going to murder the fuck out of something with a Dahl. What in the fuck are you supposed to do with a single-shot assault rifle? Fuck.

>> No.21799384

>>21799322
THIS. Seriously, what the fuck is the point of a "burst while zoomed" sniper? The point of sniper, its epitome, is one shot one kill. So, first shot kills, the rest are bullets wasted? Thats absolutely retarded. I wonder what gearbox was thinking...

>> No.21799422

>>21798486
Pavi, you might want to rethink the whole, "face mask" thing. Its pretty weird.

>> No.21799459

>>21799348
>>21799384
The point is, Dahl and Jakobs make up for their single shitty weapons by having every other gun they make be great. Or at least usable. Think about what would happen if the company and gun were switched (Jakobs sniper and Dahl AR? FUCK YES)

Other companies make all good guns and one shitty one. Hyperion makes all shitty guns and one good one, their shotguns.

>> No.21799588

>>21799459

I'm a fan of their SMGs: a few stray shots, and you're pouring bullets into things dead-center. Though I do prefer Maliwan SMGs sometimes.

>> No.21799624

>>21799459
>Hyperion makes all shitty guns and one good one, their shotguns.
The Conference Call may very well be mankind's greatest achievement.

>> No.21799647

>>21799588
Their SMGs are great at sustained fire, but they suffer the same problem every other hyperion does. You still have to commit 3-5 bullets every time you reload/want to shoot something.

>> No.21799712

>>21798486
Wait, so Handsome Jack's face is actually someone else's face stapled onto his? But what determines handsomeness isn't the face itself but the facial structure beneath it.

>> No.21799755

>>21799624
>I have never beaten Terramorphous
feels batman.

>>21799712
His real face has the same structure, but it has one eye that's got a cataract and a scar shaped like the vault symbol. He got it from his daughter.

>> No.21799766

>>21799712

Moxi references him getting plastic surgery. That could have included improving the skeletal structure of the face.

>> No.21799881 [SPOILER] 

>>21799712
>>21799071
>>21798801

Jack's face was fucked up. His mask comes off after you defeat him.

>> No.21799919

>>21799881
Kinda funny that it looks pretty much exactly like his mask except for the scar and eye.

I thought it was a kind of Doctor Doom reference.

>> No.21799931

Wait, wait, so what was this about Jakobs having shit AR's? Stat for stat, they're superior to nearly every rifle of the same level.

>> No.21799990

>>21799931
The semi-auto function is pretty different from what you expect from ARs and I can understand it being jarring. They're good if you want to rely on critical hits though.

Plus I apparently have the clicking finger of the gods.

>> No.21800003

>>21799931

High Recoil, Single shot unless you want to tire out your trigger finger, tiny-ass magazine size... Jakobs doesn't make terrible ARs, but I always feel like I'm better served by a powerful Sniper Rifle.

I did find an epic orange Jakobs AR, though, served me well for about 12 levels.

>> No.21800009

>>21799931
Yeah but unless you have a macro, semiauto is shitty because you never achieve the firing rate advertised. And clicking fast like that jerks the mouse around enough to throw off my aim.

>> No.21800037 [DELETED] 

>>21799624
The Bitch is pretty good too. But as a rule if you want a precision gun, you don't get a hyperion weapon.

Handsome's Jack's face is the way it is is explained in the arid badlands logs. [spoilers] He originally was a lowly engineer, but the awakening of angel's powers burned his face. He got the only replacement he could find, and used angel to manipulate the events of BL1 [/spoiler]

>> No.21800044

>>21800003
>I did find an epic orange Jakobs AR, though, served me well for about 12 levels.
I hate it when you have to retire a long-serving weapon.

>> No.21800045

>>21798842
I think the joke is, that's basically what the folks in charge of the huge megacorps are doing (when they're not on suicide quests to conquer everything that doesn't dare submit to them) while making sure everyone else is worse off than them.

Borderlands is basically a sci-fi cyberpunk society from the POV of the equivalent of a third-world country. Does that make Pandora into Space Afghanistan?

>> No.21800070

>>21800044
>not putting it in Claptrap's Secret Stash for your next character

>> No.21800094

>>21800003
Idk about you, but I've never gotten tired spamming m1 before. I don't see how making 1 click repeatedly is too much of an effort. And I duno if it's because I'm using commando or not, but Jakobs tends to be quite accurate for me, at least far more than manufacturers like Trogue whose bullets spray like shit.

>> No.21800120

>>21800094
>not liking EXPLOSIONS in your SHOOTING
what are you, gay?

>> No.21800124

>>21800045
More like space africa, I've always thought.

>>21799624
The Bitch is pretty good too. But as a rule if you want a precision gun, you don't get a hyperion weapon.

Handsome's Jack's face is the way it is is explained in the arid badlands logs. He originally was a lowly engineer, but the awakening of angel's powers burned his face. He got the only replacement he could find, and used angel to manipulate the events of BL1

>> No.21800128

>>21800044

Retire it? I always just use Claptrap's stash to send it to my other characters when they reach the appropriate level. So far that gun has served my Siren, Mechromancer, and I should really send it to my Assassin next, he's leveled enough to use it.

>> No.21800162

>>21800124
It's really more Space Australia, convict labor and all. I was just referring to how every empire meets its doom when they try to invade Afghanistan.

>> No.21800237

>>21800128
>>21800070
Oh I still do this. I have a Torgue spingun that is about eight levels out of date by the time you get to sanctuary, but still works for another six afterwards. Just, giving up a great gun hurts. Especially when you have to splash around for a while with greens before you find a good one.

>> No.21800260

>>21800237
And then you get guns that you just keep for novelty value, like my Level 1 orange Tactical Hornet that I got from Knuckle Dragger.

>> No.21800376

It is totally Australia.

>> No.21800529

>>21799322
>To me, he was ruining Pandora; getting rid of the wild exhilarating lawlessness of it for mediocrity and boredom.

What is, "The march of civilization" for $500?

Lawless anarchy might be fun for a gun-toting badass, but it's hell for any sort of proper society. It's like saying the Wild West should've stayed lawless because it was cool.

>> No.21800595

>>21800529
It was cool. Also, do you really want to live in a place where the construction crew may have accidentally installed a miniature concealed turret instead of a miniature concealed camera while they were putting in your showerhead?

>> No.21800606

>>21800237

I do this with every orange item I pick up: never gotten rid of a single one (save for a few "Flames of the Firehawk" shields).

>> No.21800641

>>21800529
If I want to be in a Wild-west-like world with insane bandits and all too much GUN, I'd go to pandora.
If I want to be in a world full of blue-collar crime and boredom I'd go ANYWHERE ELSE.

>> No.21800690

>>21800529

If you want proper society you've probably got hundreds of settled worlds to go to. Pandora isn't so much a nascent settlement as it is a novelty world inhabited by the riff-raff every other planet doesn't really want.

The lawlessness is artificial because it's amusing for the powers that be, I wouldn't be surprised if they televised the wacky hijinks of Pandora for "Common culture."

>> No.21800740

Rolled 17

>>21800690
What is "Mr. Torge's campaign of carnage?"

>> No.21800749

There are five, count 'em, five galaxies referred to in Borderlands 2's dialogue. People travel from all over to come to Pandora and die horribly because they can't ever leave since the planet doesn't seem to have a functioning spaceport and Hyperion's materiel delivery system is strictly one-way.

>> No.21800758

>>21800690
canon-wise, Pandora is lawless because it is the land that eats corporations. Just look at what happened to Dahl. And have you ever asked Atlas corp what happened to them when they tried to Pandora? YOU CAN'T BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL GONE.
And now Pandora has endured and eliminated another corporation. Hyperion.

>> No.21800768

>>21800690

>> No.21800827

>>21800758
Technically, Atlas happened to Dahl, then the Vault happened to Atlas because hey, how were they supposed to know that it was full of Cthulu in a can?

It's not entirely clear that Atlas is completely gone. They clearly cut their losses and pulled out, but I'm not sure how a major intergalactic megacorporation could be ruined by one world. Dahl certainly wasn't. But facts are facts and Atlas is entirely omitted from the sequel, except to reference them fucking over the Crimson Lance.

>> No.21800882

>>21800827
Well, apparently in a DLC you murder the fuck out of Atlas's baws.

>> No.21800976

>>21800882
No, you kill the general who got sent there to deal with YOU. They were stockpiling for total war, but for some reason the board sent one of their nephews, a pre-teen named "Admiral Mikey" to actually be in command. Atlas lost so much materiel in your assault that they just said fuck it and abandoned everything they had planetside.

>>21800758
It's also pretty clear that if you need to escape the law, Pandora's the place to go, like in Axton and Gaige's cases.

>> No.21801250

>>21800976
Well, sure, because who the fuck is going to follow you to Pandora?

Wait, brilliant idea for a new character.

>> No.21801292

>>21800976
It can't be that hard to gear up for total war in a post-scarcity society. Also, Admiral Mikey was clearly in command because Atlas didn't give a fuck about the mission. Otherwise why would they have sent an obvious Section Eight headcase like Knoxx?

>> No.21801542

>>21801292
I think Pandora did that to him. If you listen to all of his dialog and Echo logs it's pretty clear he goes from a confident, skilled General to just being sick of the planet and being assigned under a kid. It literally wears him down to the point that he thinks suicide might be the only way offworld now.

And the Interplanetary Ninja Assassin CL4P-TP brings him back to fight you again

>> No.21804946

>>21798842
When those fruits include respawns, combat augs and acid shotguns, murderhoboing is probably the best way to enjoy them.

>> No.21805086

The best question to ask is: why the fuck wasn't Handsome Jack on the new-u system?

It's a freakin' Hyperion run service!

>> No.21805133

>>21805086
Angel probably had something to do with that

>> No.21805175

So dudes, did the Borderlands plot and overall universal depth got better with the sequel? THey so much potential for story in 1

>> No.21808638

>>21805175
Expanded greatly on the universe and characters while still leaving a fuckton of potential for growth but "better" is extremely subjective.

>> No.21808775

No talk about Maliwan sniper rifles.

... i love Maliwan weapons. I got me a shocking sniper rifle, a corrosive autopistol, a flaming SMG, and an explosive shotgun.

... yeah. You heard all that.

>> No.21810156

>>21799919

He's crazy, not egotistical.

>> No.21810971

>>21805175
"better" is most definitely subjective. But I'd still say 'Yes, definitely.' If you haven't played it yet, do so. And be prepared to lose at least 80+ hours doing so.

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