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In a world covered in endless water...

Animal eared people reign supreme.

After a large ball of table salt hit both polar ice caps at the same time, the world was flooded with chlorinated water. The resulting swimming pool level of chlorine led nearly all life to become extinct.

Save for rock monsters, animal eared people, and some tenacious sea sponges, insects, and birds.

This is the world of Catastrophy.

Am I missing something from the last 404'd thread?

>> No.21206043
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Some "normal" sea life survived thanks to a few surviving human scientists genetically modifying them to be more tolerant to the new water, like the giant crab in the pic.
This may also be the origin of the animal folks maybe.

>> No.21206044

The ability to spell catastrophe.

Other than that, though, I am intrigued. Lurkan.

>> No.21206046

>>21206030
I think that's most everything. I believe that human technology was being discussed when the 404 hit? Genetic engineering, robots, all that good stuff.

>> No.21206051

Only details, but that was intentional, of course.
Artificially created sweet water pools and canals had just been suggested. For the dolphin and octopus girls.

>> No.21206058

More like Catasstrophy, am I right?

>> No.21206061

>>21206030
What evolutionary advantage do adorable animal ears have over normal human ears?

>> No.21206063
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Recap:

>A spaceborn ball of salt impacts the earth, causing massive flooding.
>Allege is dead, which leads to an ecosystem collapse.
>green plants on land allow insects, birds, and possibly grazing animals to exist.
>Animal eared people live in the ruins of post humanity having beach parties and fighting over energy drinks and cat food.
>rock monsters consume salt water and expunge normal water.
>Obviously, the animal eared people have nothing better to do then scavenge the old ruins for cool shiny junk.

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>>21206061

It's genetic science magic, I ain't got to explain shit.

>> No.21206075

I don't know the chemical formula for chlorine.

How is a massive ball of table salt capable of chlorinating the entire world?

>> No.21206083

>>21206051
I definitely think that at least some towns would have been able to pull this off. I also liked the idea of human scientists creating land and aquatic kemonomimi designed to be able to survive in the new environment.

>> No.21206085

>>21206063
The surviving people should have to rely on gas masks/breathing masks since algae produce the majority of the world's oxygen.

Also, seaplanes are the boss. Lots of seaplanes!

>> No.21206089

>>21206061
It drives men crazy and ensures that they procreate. What does evolutionary advantages have to do with anything, anyway? Beings become less suited to their old environments without going extinct all the time.

>> No.21206091

>>21206061
they make you able to drink chlorinated water. why? because SCIENCE!

>> No.21206094

>>21206083

I thought it was assumed humans died off?

>>21206085

Perhaps they needed too much oxygen, and animal people require less?

>> No.21206095
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>>21206030
> After a large ball of table salt hit both polar ice caps at the same time
>both polar caps
>at the same time

>> No.21206103

>>21206075
...
Salt is NaCl. That is, Sodium Chloride. That is, one Sodium atom bonded to one Chlorine atom. The bond breaks in water and the two atoms become ions. Na+ and Cl- if memory serves.

>the purnanym

Gotta call some location the Purnanym now. Source of delicious nyms for catfolk?

>> No.21206107

>>21206094
Afterwards, sure. But I don't think we've decided on an exact origin of our kemonomimi yet.

>> No.21206108

>>21206094
It was, but we actually have more than like 4 people in here now, and the new guys don't have all the details.

>> No.21206124

>>21206094
Birds, for example, have more efficient respiratory systems than humans do. They're also more vulnerable to unclean air, but that's hardly an issue. Maybe the ears and tails etc. aren't the only thing different?

>> No.21206128

>>21206107
I vote for them being created by surviving human scientists after the meteor impact.

>> No.21206135

>>21206094
Dammit, I wanted catgirls in gas-masks! D:<

But yeah, that makes sense.

Are we going to have tribes/cities be divided by "racial" lines, like one nation of fox-eared-people, one tribe of snake-folks, etc?

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>>21206107
I vote for the kemonomimi being leftover pets and playthings of a hedonistic, post genetic splicing society.

>> No.21206140

>>21206085
>>21206075
>>21206061
you guys are way over-thinking this. cat girls, swimsuits, endless beach parties. you folk are the ones who ask questions like: why is the cast of this sitcom spending 90% of their time at the bar/coffee shop? why aren't they slaving away in some cubicle somewhere?

>> No.21206146

>>21206135

You still need rebreathers and SCUBA gear. Hell, chlorine gas might even be a problem. Public pools often keep gasmasks around for a reason...

>> No.21206151

>>21206140
This is /tg/ my friend. We have fun by otherthinking things.

>> No.21206152

>>21206103
Yes, but only so much salt can occupy so much water. The rest supersaturates and becomes brine, which creates underwater lakes.

Or if you want to be really, really creative, the oceans can become supersaturated to a degree that it solidifies.

>> No.21206156

>>21206095
Clearly it split up into two pieces when it passed by Jupiter, and the two pieces managed to hit both of Earth's ice caps in a cosmic coincidence.

>> No.21206157

>>21206075
...Cl. Chlorine is an element. Naturally occuring, it exists as a gas, Cl(2).

Table salt is NaCl, which, when dissolved in water, dissociates into two ions, Na+ and Cl-.

The abundance of Cl- is what makes bleach (which is water and chlorine) toxic.

Also, another detail that was left out: the salt meteor hit the ice caps, hence the flooding.

>> No.21206158

>>21206103
The Purnanym is a small traveling caravan of sorts, based out of an old whaling boat. They trade goods in different areas, buying low and selling high, and will occasionally take on passengers, for a modest fee. Purnanym is named after the two people that got the old boat up and working properly; Purna the Catgirl and Nym , a fox-boy.

>> No.21206160

>>21206140
>>21206151
and dammit, we're going to think up a reasonable explanation for cat girls having endless beach parties in swimsuits, and also exploring ruined cities and such.

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>>21206140

Exactly. Cat girl beach parties were the inspiration. It was supposed to be light hearted animal people scavenging shinies from post human ruins, after all.

>> No.21206166

>>21206135
take your gasmask fetish back to krieg where it belongs

>> No.21206167

>>21206135
Maybe it's a seasonal thing? Other parts of the world could still produce oxygen, but when it's autumn-winter there the global oxygen level goes down.
This would also mean lowered activity during those months, so they'd have to stock up on food. This could be one of the more serious plot points: Fighting insect people getting to the crops and stores.

>> No.21206176

>>21206146
Maybe some spots in the oceans are more likely to off-gas chlorine clouds, and thus the locals there have emergency gas-masks?

I mean, they do go well with the post-apocalyptic motif.

>>21206158
I like it!

>> No.21206178

>>21206152
Perhaps human-made chemicals got out due to the impact and subtly changed the properties of the oceans?

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>tfw recognizing artist

Thanks for the update OP.

>> No.21206184

>>21206160
Cat girls want shinies. Dog people want to make sure their future litters of puppies have a better life. Foxes might just like the adventure.

All of them go down into the ruins for scrap tech, junk, and old snacks.

Someone said cats need Taurine to survive. Bam. Market for energy drinks.

Hell, old pet food might be a luxury.

>> No.21206189

>>21206176
Thanks, I was feeling creative, and then Inglip went and inspired me. Anybody else got some interesting captcha-fueled ideas?

>> No.21206203

>>21206184
No, Taurine is just for fun and games.
Don't forget pig girls want to wrestle in mud, dolphin girls want room to play, octopus girls like intellectual stimulation and bird girls... well, there are so many types of birds that there's a lot of types there.
Octopus girls are in charge of science! Fucking genius, me!

>> No.21206216

>>21206203
>Octopus girls are in charge of tentacle rape!

FTFY

>> No.21206218

>>21206135
The inspiration pictures (from the first two posts) showed different kemonomimi cohabitating, so probably not. It's also more interesting and adorable if they're working together.

>> No.21206222

>>21206184
>Someone said cats need Taurine to survive. Bam. Market for energy drinks.

Cats go blind if they don't get taurine. They can't produce it themselves. It's not present in tuna and other fish. That's why you can't just feed them fish.

You can get it fine from other meat, though.

>> No.21206224

Maybe you could keep embittered human remnants around in their oceanfloor bunker cities? Relying on failing equipment to keep the chlorine out while fighting each other over scraps?

Rapture City postapocalypse and Catgirl Beach Parties in the same setting!

>> No.21206226

>>21206184
Taurine also exists in poultry and fish. Also, it's not so much that they need it to survive, as lacking it damages their vision, and prolonged deficiency causes blindness. Energy drinks are just especially popular with cats because it's both rich in a nutrient they'd naturally have a taste for; I imagine all the different creatures might like it, though.

>> No.21206231

>>21206103
>>21206075
There's already lots of salt in the seas.

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>>21206189

One from the old thread:

>nyadorns council

>Well, there we go. Nyadorns Council wants the PCs to find the water chip. Are you a bad enough cat girl to save the vaul- I mean, village?

Based off that, why not have the Nyadorns Council be the defacto ruling body or something.

Led by a lion hearted cat-man with chlorine green hair styled into a mane, Flint Thickmane controls what is in effect a guild of treasure hunters. It’s the place to be for treasure hunters to get jobs and missions. There’s also an onsite junk bazaar, an inn that takes collateral in the form of ‘favors’ to the guild, and numerous gear shops and mechanists doing repairs and maintenance.

>> No.21206250

>>21206184
>catgirls on energy energy drinks.
>ohgodeverythingexploded.jpg

>>21206224
So that means animal-ear people can raid Rapture, steal their clothing and have Flapper Beach Parties and add ear-holes to cool hats to wear while adventuring! I approve!

>> No.21206252

>>21206226
But cats can't taste sweet things, they lack the taste receptors for it.

Energy drinks would probably taste like a can of seawater to a catgirl.

>> No.21206253

>>21206222
Cats actually don't eat fish in the wild. Like ever. They do in fact develop allergies to fish very easily, because of this. Nothing you can find in a fish is important to a cat without being found elsewhere in their actual diet.

>> No.21206259

>>21206094
>>21206061
>>21206151

how about something like the whole trigun setting. It's not quite earth, just looks kinda like it. due to local radiation people started growing cute ears and tails, a massive economic collapse (with most of the science breaking) everyone forgot what happened more than a generation or two ago. People are starting to rebuild... but sometimes get distracted by beach parties
>mfw now I'm overthinking this

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>>21206252
>>21206253

We're leaving cute cat girls doing cute things territory, guys.

They are also more human then cat. Think anime.

>the epstar

The name of the salt ball could have been the Epstar?

>> No.21206267

>>21206224
>embittered
I don't like it. This is a lighthearted setting. It's why none of the antagonists have been other animals, thus far. (Giant insects, aggressive rock monsters, and ancient robots.)

>> No.21206272

>>21206253
Catgirls are probably closer to humans than cats in their dietary needs.

>> No.21206275

>>21206051
>For the dolphin and octopus girls.
Am I the only one of the opinion that we should just stick to the picture and keep it as cat,dog, and bunnygirls and guys? It keeps things simple, trims out the fat from the creative process, and stops people from arguing for their preferred version of animal eared girl to make it into the setting.

>> No.21206279

>>21206222
Wait, maybe it's just tuna. Look, I just know you can't feed cats tuna as their primary protein, or they'll go blind from taurine deficiency.

A cursory internet search seems to say that other seafood has plenty of taurine, so . . .

>> No.21206280

>>21206259
You're also not paying attention to the original idea.

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>>21206216
lesbian tentacle porn.

>> No.21206284

>>21206275

I, for one, agree.

Aquatic life is cool and all, but limiting it to above ground animals would fit the setting more.

>> No.21206286

>>21206224
Or fuck the embittered thing: Maybe the kemonomimi are all clones from a vast genetic stock, and the few remaining human scientists are in charge of creating new ones? Meanwhile, the kemonomimi bring food to the scientists. The scientists are also clones, produced with as high a preference for scientific pursuits as possible, to ensure that they can learn the machines and keep both strains of beings going strong.

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3spooky5me

>> No.21206292

>>21206061
All scientists are crazy creepy old men and so the last remaining human scientists uplifted/spliced cats, dogs, and bunnies because like wizards, scientists have no sense of right and wrong.

>> No.21206295

>>21206235
Too much organization is kind of anathema to post-apocalypse, which is what this setting is; it's just a lot more lighthearted than something like say Fallout or Mad Max.

>> No.21206298

>>21206253
I mostly agree with this; my cats have always had a fondness for chicken, and dislike of fish. What about Fisher Cats, though?

>> No.21206300

>>21206252
So? They want the RUSH, not the sugar. And they can probably still get addicted to caffeine and all that.
>>21206265
No, we're just doing some fluff. They're still animal girls doing cute things in the sun.

>> No.21206302
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>>21206235
>green hair
>Flint

>> No.21206306

>>21206259
I personally love using remnants of old humanity as Big Bads in post apocalyptic settings. Though i can admit that it might be out of place in catastrophy due to non fetish.

>>21206250
Of course! Also, Rapturian Captain Nemo comes up from 10k miles under the sea to get culture shocked by cute catfolk!

>> No.21206309

>>21206176
>surface world is covered in chlorine gas
>cities are safe due to macguffins
>brave explorers must venture into the haze to bring back more supplies for their town and fuel for the macguffin
So basically, we just made Crystal Chronicles Catgirl Waterworld.

>> No.21206310

>>21206286
>>21206292

They could show up as a plot twist, but having humans outright kinda trivializes post humanity.

>> No.21206313

>>21206287
Nigga, you just went full grimdark.

>> No.21206316

>>21206302

>perfect image

Looks like Flint has a portrait now.

>> No.21206318

Might we be witnessing the birth of Harem Knights Mk.II?

But I love the idea of some crazy human scientists survivor living in a floating apocalypsepunk airship/ocean floor lab doing all sorts of crazy genetic experiments and occasionally cruising around in a seaplane/mini sub wearing some sort of Level A suit.

>> No.21206320

>>21206275
I think we should just assume all major landbased kemonomimi technically exist, but focus on cats, and maybe dogs, when developing the settings. I think having aquatic kemonomimi would ruin the idea of the water being shitty chlorine water that killed off all the marine wildlife though.

>> No.21206324

>>21206275
>>21206284
It was noted that a lot of sea-life was absent from the "Blue Apocalypse" pictures this idea was based off of. Having sea-folk would kind of go against that.

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How flooded is this setting any way? I imagine that places high above sea level are unchanged but places like Holland are fucked.

>> No.21206333

>>21206286
>>21206292

Those are funny, and seemingly lighthearted enough. Would explain why there are almost exclusively catgirls.

>> No.21206336

>>21206286
I really don't see how this fits into the setting. I say stick to no people and let the catgirls reproduce naturally.

>> No.21206349

>>21206030
>>21206043
why aren't there any boys

although that individual running the icecream stand could go either way

>> No.21206351

>>21206284
>>21206324
I was also referring to the pig-girls and foxgirls people are trying to shove in. Just keep it simple and focused on the cat/dog/and bunnygirls and guys, at least for right now.

>> No.21206353

>>21206298
What fish? The underwater ecosystem got fucked and replaced with rockmonsters.

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>>21206320

>focus on shit, and maybe shit

I am offended.

>> No.21206359

>>21206349
Clones, man, it would explain everything!

>> No.21206364

>>21206310
Just a few of them, unsuited to the open skies since they lack the knowledge to actually change genetic code. They just know how to keep producing humans and kemonomimi. So they're just a few people hanging in the shade, smiling at their benefactors. The kemonomimi are the ones keeping them alive, after all, while they repay them by not letting them die out.
I would imagine a 1-to-100 ratio of human-to-kemonomimi, or even higher. Just so we can keep all the animal girls cute and female.

>> No.21206366

>>21206359
but what's the point of a world without catboys?

>> No.21206369

>world covered in water and now populated by monstergirls
>ctrl+f "sharkgirl"
>no hits

You have failed me for the last time, /tg/...

>> No.21206377

>>21206349
>why aren't there any boys
see >>21206043
BoS Burger is run by a dogdude. Not a dogtboi, but a dogdude.

>> No.21206380

>>21206295

Well, think of it as a pirate guild. Just a place to sell stuff, get some rest, and get your new adventure.

It's not like the guild really controls anything, the world is a giant swimming pool anyway...

>> No.21206389

Guy that posted the original genetic engineering idea in the last thread here; I was thinking more along the lines of
>scientist survivors spend their remaining days engineering life to survive this new world
>they kick the bucket
>new life flourishes (giant crabs, kemonomimi, etc)
>no humans left

>> No.21206392

>>21206349
I'm pretty sure he's a dude, but butch catgirls are fine too.

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>>21206369

Better?

>> No.21206398

>>21206320
Why is options a bad thing? I think the whole idea behind aquatic girls was that they (the other cute animal girls) managed to build some sweet water habitats on higher ground. Because they're nice and cute and helpful.

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Also I don't know why the OP is only 850x566

>> No.21206406

>>21206380
...okay, thinking about them as a band of pirates works a little better.

>> No.21206413

>>21206396
Acceptable.

>> No.21206415

>>21206359
but there is a boy running the burger/icecream stant, and the cloning thing is unnecessary and detracts from the original idea.

>> No.21206423

>>21206351
Focused? On what? We've got all those things you mentioned. They ARE developed. Cat girls, for example, behave a bit like cats, like energy drinks, and enjoy sunbathing in bikinis. What more is there to say? If the setting is done once we've "fluffed" these few pictures, then the setting IS done, as is this thread.

>> No.21206430

Males of all the species exist. Males exist in the pictures, so they exist in the setting.

Not everything has to be cutesy, but this is a lighthearted setting.

Aquatic life has changed drastically; and not in the same way surface life has.

>> No.21206433

>>21206329
Ya that's my biggest concern, we really don't have enough water in existence to cover the whole planet. Does anybody else here know the exact number in increased sea level height for both poles melting?

>> No.21206435

>>21206369
The apocalypse happened because the ocean became uninhabitable. Though why dolphin and octopus girls were mentioned but sharkgirls weren't I don't know.

>> No.21206437

>>21206333
Exactly. Imagine, the last vestige of humanity
>Alright, eggheads, you guys are our last hope. Humanity is doomed, but at least we can leave someone in our wake, someone to learn from all we have done. Make something that can live in this new world and aware enough to know that we once called this earth our home.
>...is he gone yet? Good, I was thinking catgirls. Lots and lots of catgirls
>Fuck you, man, dogs are the best!
>....Ihappentolikebunnies...
>Guys, GUYS! Why not all of them bitches?
>...yes, this is a good legacy humanity will leave. This is definitely the best thing
And thats the story of how SCIENCE! created cat/dog/bunnygirls adapted to the Blue Apocalypse.

>> No.21206438

>>21206369
But sharks are predators and there's no life in the oceans. Dolphins were suggested for that reason.

>> No.21206439

>>21206389
>>21206415

I kinda imagined it as pretty much literally post humanity. Animal people have pretty much forgotten about humans and started their own civilization based off of stealing things from old runs they probably don't even know the purpose of.

Just think how alien the world looks to them. What gods could have made such monuments and tombs? Even scarier, what created us?

>> No.21206440

>>21206359
Clones wouldn't explain anything because there are no humans left to clone them, and the majority of human tech (including big clunky stuff that can't be easily moved, like cloning machines) was destroyed by years of exposure to sea water.

>> No.21206450

>>21206349
higher ratio of females to males?
I, for one, wholly welcome this idea

>> No.21206451

>>21206404
Thank you! I have never been able to find a bigger version of that thing.

>> No.21206453

>>21206437
>Guys... Why not fox girls?
>...
>Fuck off, Ted. Nobody even invited you to the staff end-of-the-world party.

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Had to dig through my landscapes folder to find it, but find it I did.

>> No.21206459

>>21206433
That would be significantly overthinking it. I say that it was flooded enough to put one or two stories of coastal towns underwater.

>> No.21206460

>>21206353
lookit the water in
>>21206043

>> No.21206463

>>21206415
Might. Just sad there are no humans around. I liked the idea of making them basically wizards with a lot of knowledge, few, slowly dying out in a hostile world but still having a place because of the kindness of the animal folk, their own children. Nothing to do but trying to enjoy live in the beachworld.

It has a certain bitter sweetness that i appreciate.

But if i am getting off topic i shall stop.

>> No.21206464

>>21206440
Easy solution.
Humans exist, in stasis on the Moon. However, the last researchers created a species to try and keep some sort of civilization on the Earth until they could return to retake the homeworld.

What if some group wakes up early and decides to come back.

Also, automated cloning stations.

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>>21206275
>>21206284


but...but the ADORABLENESS!!

>> No.21206478

>>21206433
Yes we do. We just need to get the tectonic activity down to nothing and let everything erode for a few hundred million years.
That would be kinda cool, if only there was a way to keep the cities intact during this time.
But hey! Maybe it wasn't salt! Maybe the impact caused enormous amounts of magma to pour up from the ocean floors, upsetting the ocean's ecosystem, everything died, and the vast amounts of lava pushed the water over the land level.

>> No.21206483

>>21206450
It could be that the guys and younger women are more likely to go off wandering and plumbing the depth of the Old World for new relics whereas the mothers and children stay back, shop in the market, and hang out at burger stands. Of course, its up to them to coordinate the welcome back pool/beach parties, so its not all fun and game, except that it is.

>> No.21206485

>>21206478
Or the meteor wasnt only salt but also lots of ice?

>> No.21206486

>>21206478
Well, the chlorine was responsible for the super clean water.

>> No.21206489

>>21206437
Almost perfect. I say instead of all women just like a 10:1 gender ratio.

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>>21206030
A whole bunch of catpeople.

>> No.21206497

>>21206489
what's wrong with just having a regular gender ratio?

>> No.21206501

>>21206489
>>21206450

>> No.21206503

>>21206489
I meant for it to be implied that these catgirls need something to breed with. If mankind is leaving a legacy, it needs to be one that doesn't rely solely on their old, forgotten tech to reproduce, after all.

>> No.21206505

>>21206485
Most comets and shit are mostly made of ice as it is, so this works really well.

>> No.21206508

>>21206497

HAREMS

>> No.21206510

>>21206440
Explanation has been offered: A low amount of humans are also cloned to keep the cloning legacy going. But it could also be as simple as automated cloning. Machines going long after their creators died.

>> No.21206514

>>21206463
They would have been around at some point at the same time as their kemonomimi creations, but not for more than one or two generations probably.

>> No.21206515

>>21206497
nothing?

>> No.21206520

>>21206464
That has nothing to do with catgirls sunbathing or looting human ruins. I don't like it at all.

>> No.21206523

>>21206503
Just make males rare.

Cat huntresses bring back food, treasure, and glory. Men stay home and become scholars, mechanics, and husbands.

>> No.21206525

>>21206508
you can still have harems with a normal gender ratio

>>21206515
good, then it's agreed

>> No.21206528

>>21206463
Remember, this is hundreds of years post-humanity. Maybe there are still stories told of the Earless Ones who guided their kind to Flooded Metro and taught them a thing or two about the old tech.

>> No.21206529

>>21206453

>THE WATER SHOULD BE FILLED WITH SHARK AND FISH PEOPLE!!!

>....... who the fuck invited Zorndyke?

>> No.21206530

Humanfags, get the fuck out.
This is meant to be a post-humanity setting, not some tale of how humanity rose from the ashes and fucked the apocalypse in the ass by banging catgirl harems HUMANITYFUCKYEAH.

>> No.21206536

>>21206497
Because horny neckbeard scientists designed them, and to reflect the gender ratio in the OP pictures.

>> No.21206538

>>21206486
I should have clarified, as I developed the idea away from the first sentence with the other sentences: The meteor was salt, but the magma also poured out. They two together killed the ocean life, which ALSO explains why there is no deep sea life, and ALSO explain the water level. Sort of. It's still absurd. But who cares?

>> No.21206539

>>21206520
>>21206536

Well, there would probably be implications on social rule if it was 10:1.

>> No.21206542

>>21206525
It is not agreed. You are paying attention to the one post that agrees with you and none of the ones that don't.

>> No.21206544

>>21206530

I see no reason why it couldn't be both.

this is a setting not a game and with all settings simply dilute to taste

>> No.21206553

>>21206530
This. Lets try to keep the HFY in check just this once. Hell, in the face of apocalypse humanity replaced their own kind with sexy, svelte catgirl beachgoers. It doesn't get much more HFY than that.

>> No.21206559

>>21206538
Salt/ice meteor makes more sense.
Shit's absurd enough as it is with it splitting and hitting both ice caps; don't need no magma fuckery to go with it.

>> No.21206560

>>21206530
Agreed. Having humans around really fucks over the whole "post humanity" idea.

>> No.21206561

>>21206520
yeah, i have to agree. And i am >>21206463.

Hm, a human doctor, last of his family, having not much to do but recording the history of his catgirl benefactors and healing occasional bruises would be a very nice narrator for some writefagging...

>> No.21206570

>>21206503
Even then, see lions, for example. Many females per male in a pride. Could also be an overpopulation thing, like they were created to fit a less advanced world.

>izienat sat
I like this name and this scenario. I shall adopt it.

>> No.21206576
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>>21206510

What's wrong with the last of earth's scientists teaching their first progeny the science that birthed them?

>> No.21206580
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21206580

>>21206523

No input?

I think it'd fit kinda well and give a reason for young animal girls to explore.

FOR LOOT, GLORY, AND MATES!

>eraphow tending

Eraphow best be tending the kittens...

>> No.21206587

>>21206536
In addition it could also just be a practical thing. A population can expand much faster with a gender ratio like that than a 50/50 one.

>> No.21206591

>>21206544
>this is a setting not a game
Exactly. At the point we are discussing, there are no longer humans. If you want humans AND catgirls, just set your game back when scientists were still creating catgirls.

>> No.21206594

>>21206561
I am now imagining the latest episode of Adventure Time, but with an old weakly scientist and a gang of scared and very confused kittengirls as he teaches the first generation about life. Years later, he looks around at the society that has flourished around him before he fades away on that old rocking chair they scavenged for him and he finds it good.

>> No.21206603

>>21206580
I like it. It also fits with the only male being the guy manning the burger stand in the inspiration pics.

>> No.21206612

>>21206497
hey guys, matriarchy... there are cat/dog/bunny boys, its just that they get the jobs the girls don't want like cameraman, and burger dude. If guys try to get the cool jobs like ruins explorer they distract us, because, well catgirls

(also would probably be cool to have catboys so it can be a cool fantasy world for the ca/tg/irls around here)

>> No.21206613

>>21206438
>dolphins
>not predators

Nigga wut

>> No.21206618

>>21206544
You are forgetting that it is a POST HUMANITY setting. The concept of the setting specifically removes humans from existence.

>> No.21206621

I just want to say to all of you screaming "IT MUST BE AS IN THE PICTURES" without accounting for or explaining the 25 to 1 something ratio of female to male: Figure it out. Meanwhile we'll do our best to do it as best we can. Besides, there are more than one bathing in the ocean, have fun now that the water's habitable.

>> No.21206622
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21206622

Howabout you just make them giants with breast expansion who have a thing for eating people and have massive horse futa cockes and fuckable nipples.

You know, for the story

>> No.21206639

>>21206621
>Besides, there are more than one bathing in the ocean, have fun now that the water's habitable.
You can also bathe in pool water; doesn't mean it's habitable.

>> No.21206643

>>21206594
This is the right kind of HFY for this setting (also in general). I approve.

>> No.21206647

>>21206621
It's pretty clear the water is like an indoor swimming pool's.

That's why they can scuba into ruins in the first place

>> No.21206650

>>21206613
They're at least more understandable with the setting! Sharks are predators and ONLY predators. I don't think anything points towards sharks playing or doing anything but hunting. Dolphins are like a hundred times more lighthearted.

>> No.21206652

>>21206622
Get outta here Fenoxo!

>> No.21206662

>>21206622
>I think they should have enormous cocks, even the women, and also giant breasts with nipple vaginas
>Goddammit Williams nobody invited you to this meeting

>> No.21206670
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21206670

>>21206553
HFY?
CFY!
Catgirls! Fuck yeah!

>> No.21206672
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21206672

Guys, OP here.

I hate to break up this lovely discussion we're having, but can we keep it to animal ear girls?

As in, girls with animal ears?

Also, post more of them,

>> No.21206678

>>21206621
I thought we already handled that explanation
>>21206536
>>21206587

>> No.21206687

>>21206647
>>21206639
True. You still need to explain the ratio and how it's sustained. Unless we're just saying "they aren't affected by inbreeding like humans", but then again, if you're going to go that far to keep it strictly as the pictures, we may as well stop explaining things altogether.

>> No.21206691

>>21206672
We tried, we can't keep the HFY guys out.

>> No.21206693
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21206693

>>21206662

>Ted, Williams you're fired.
>But the salt come-
>FIRED

>> No.21206702 [SPOILER] 
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21206702

>>21206672

Yeah, cat persons only

>> No.21206703

>>21206650
That's some serious pro-dolphin propaganda you're spreading there; you do realize there are many shark species that feed on nothing but krill and plankton right?
All dolphins, on the other hand, are carnivores, and some are quite violent and downright sadistic.

http://www.aardvarknyc.com/about/dolphins-rape-people/

Link related.

>> No.21206707

>>21206687
Wouldn't the potential dangers of inbreeding be nonexistent for at least the first dozen generations in a species genetically engineered from a healthy template?

>> No.21206711

>>21206687
I was the one saying that the guys are more likely to wander off from population centers which is why you don't see them in those two pictures. Of course, semi-harem with lots of interaction with nearby “prides” could work too.

>> No.21206714

>>21206691
The worst part is that they don't realise that the setting is already HFY.
Humanity created this glorious paradise with their dying breath, after all; what could be more FUCK YEAH than that?

>> No.21206715

>>21206693
don't forget to fire zorndyke

>> No.21206717
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21206717

>>21206672
Op again, animal ear boys are cool too.

I kinda like
>>21206580
as well.

>> No.21206723

>>21206714
Nothing. Nothing at all. Some people can't seem to fathom a setting where humans are more resilient than roaches.

>> No.21206725

>>21206714
I already said that up at >>21206553

>> No.21206727
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21206727

>>21206714
Again, catgirls, fuck yeah.

Raiding old ruins for riches, for food, and for husbands.
As if he wanders off and you catch him, he's yours by right. Until he wanders off and someone else finds him.

>> No.21206729

>>21206711
Only if we have a huge setting with many many kemonomimi settlements. Just a few hundred isn't enough to keep a population healthy. And someone mentioned it takes some generations: Sure it does. So what, this is a thing that lasts only that long and then goes to shit in a degenerated inbred orgy of simpletons? Ew.

>> No.21206742
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21206742

>>21206717

>> No.21206743

>>21206711
I like >>21206523 better

>> No.21206744
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21206744

>>21206672
>hey guys, can you keep this to things that I like?

Once you open Pandora's box, every idea is on the table. EVERY

>> No.21206749

>>21206729
The surviving human scientists genetically engineered these people to survive this new world; something tells me they'd have made sure to make enough to make sure it'd work out.

>> No.21206750

>>21206714
Again, explain it to us. As long as you're going "don't gotta explain shit", we're gonna "try to explain shit". Don't like it, don't read. I came up with cloning in the first place, and I have absolutely no intention of doing it HFY. HFY is a shitty premise that makes for shitty threads. Hell, I didn't even like Babylon 5's portrayal of other aliens because they were all so in awe of humans.

>> No.21206751

>>21206729
No, but by the time that it becomes a problem there's a diverse enough population base that inbreeding doesn't need to be worried about anymore.

>> No.21206754

>>21206349
>Why aren't there any boys?
Untrue,
Sexual dimorphism can be extreme, or unnoticeable to the untrained eye.

>> No.21206755

>>21206743
Works for me. I really dont care too much about the finer details of it so long as we can focus more on the ADVENTURE! aspect. Because I am ALL about the adventure.

>> No.21206756

>>21206729
Hm... wouldnt the ruins the catgirls get their stuff out collapse after some generations?

>> No.21206757

>>21206744
>Williams, why are you still here? Get your shit and get out.

>> No.21206767
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21206767

>>21206754

>catboy traps

>> No.21206768

>>21206750
This isnt about explaining shit at all, this is about the original premise being that humanity is dead. Deader than Batman's parents. Humanity is DEEEEEEAD.

Then we get to explaining why shit is the way it is.

>> No.21206772

>>21206750
Explain what, exactly?

>> No.21206776

>>21206755
Yeah the HFY argument has really detracted from discussion on the original premise of catgirls sumbathing and looting ruins.

>> No.21206784

>>21206749
Yes, but HOW? That's the point. I can buy it, if we establish that one, somehow there's a HELL of a lot of surface land to supply hundreds if not thousands of kemonomimi. Probably thousands, as you need something alone 700 or more for a healthy population even with an equal gender distribution. If you can explain this, I'll be happy. If not, you do your thing, we'll do ours.

>> No.21206792

>>21206767
>>21206754
>Thats it Williams, you're getting exiled into the Chlorine Miasma now. Enough is enough.

>> No.21206796

>>21206784

Can't we do the 'Unexplored lands' excuse? There are parts of the world people haven't been, or even know about.

Those parts might even have their own kemonomimi.

Fuck, this is like arguing GUYS WHAT IF YOUR DND KINGDOM DOESN'T HAVE ENOUGH DRAGON FUCKING?

>> No.21206798

>>21206768
So what are you going to do with this thread if everything is explained by: It's as it is in the pictures. Nothing else allowed.
I'll just leave this thread, because obviously there's nothing more to discuss, because... nothing is going to be added.

>> No.21206799
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21206799

>>21206767
Now we're cookin' with gas

>> No.21206801

>>21206030
>>21206043
>>21206063
>>21206074
>>21206138
>>21206163
>>21206672
I am so hard/wet right now for these. And I hate anthro, so I dunno why.

>> No.21206807
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21206807

>>21206801

Does this help?

>> No.21206817

>>21206801
Doesn't anthro mean humanized? These aren't humanized animals, they're clearly people with a couple of non-dominant physical traits in the likeness of animals.

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21206820

>>21206030
>In a world covered in endless water...
There are only catgirl sluts.

>> No.21206828

>>21206798

Here's the thing. Most of these snags are kinda inconsequential. We can assume interbreeding won't be a problem. We can assume humans are DEEEAAAAAADDDDD. We can assume the setting allows people with animal ears to live in an almost no oxygen world when a ball of salt split by Jupiter hit both icecaps at once.

Sometimes too much details detracts from the big picture. you know?

>> No.21206832

>>21206820
>There are only catgirl sluts.
LIES AND SLANDER.
These are pure maidens.
Probably not.

>> No.21206836

>>21206784
The last generation of man devotes its resources to creating genetic engineering labs in major coastal centers to mass produce kemonomimi able to survive in the new environment using a few distinct genetic blueprints that show up in the phenotype as the kemonomimi species. They use a high female to male gender ratio so that the population is capable of expanding quickly to create a new society on top of the ruins of humanity.

Is that the kind of thing you're looking for?

>> No.21206838
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21206838

>>21206798
Not at all. We could discuss what dangers wait in the ruins. What worthwhile tech there is to be found. We could flesh out everything from your typical flooded metropolises to the underwater bunkers where humanity spent its last days. We could even do something about giant predatory salamanders that look like >>21206287 that the catgirls must defend their city against from time to time.

Or we could keep arguing about how catgirls breed and trying to shoehorn some humans into the setting.

>> No.21206844

>>21206784
How? With SCIENCE! that's how.
Even with intense flooding, there's more than enough land because have you seen the size of the fucking world?
Not to mention boats and ships left behind by humans could provide extra space.
Also volcanic eruptions creating new land mass.
Now stop being a stupid shit and enjoy your god damned catgirls and ruins.

>> No.21206846
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>>21206832
If anything, the males would be sluts.

Can you imagine getting 10 treasure hunting wives fighting over your love?

Especially in mating season.

>> No.21206858

>>21206828
Hm... No, I don't know. Tell me of this big picture that isn't a collection of details looked at without understanding of how it works. And even then, it sounds to me like you have your setting all finished there, in a few short sentences. Why are you so against others wanting to explain/explore it further to suit THEIR taste in games? You're done here. Finished. You have a complete setting, except for rules, which will be taken from something existing and slightly modified. What else are you here for? The pictures?

>> No.21206864

>>21206846
>If anything, the males would be sluts.
>
>Can you imagine getting 10 treasure hunting wives fighting over your love?
>
>Especially in mating season.
> catgirls with sharp claws fighiting over the few males in the setting while driven crazy with hormones
Good grief, the rapes.

>> No.21206865

>>21206858
>You have a complete setting, except for rules, which will be taken from something existing and slightly modified.
You're a retard. A setting is not a fucking game. Get out.

>> No.21206866

>>21206846
I think the males would be unfortunate, because nobody wants to fuck that often. They may have what others want and need, but they have not the strength to keep them from taking it.

>> No.21206867

>>21206727
i like this. someone hand me one of those cat ear headbands. I'm moving

>> No.21206877

I think this setting would be best described as Neutral Bright

>> No.21206880

>>21206846
They would either have to be incredibly relaxed and sedate all the time or scared for their fucking lives.

>> No.21206881

>>21206844
Funny how you're leaving the trappings of the inspirational pictures more than anyone else in your quest to stop everyone from explaining things.

>> No.21206882

>>21206858
Dude, what is your deal? Why not discuss some of the things >>21206838 suggested? There are tons more things that can be fleshed out. If you don't want to work on anything except complaining about the things that are established for no real reason other than that it doesn't fit your preference you're welcome to leave.

>> No.21206895

>few males
>no males
>males are traps

seriously, maybe just keep standard gender ratio? Tacofest WILL get boring

>> No.21206899
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21206899

OK LET ME BREAK THIS SHIT DOWN TO YOU
It's far in the future and humanity has become masters of their realm. Gene-spliced catgirls and catboys form a "pet" caste under their human masters. Self sustaining buildings procure the ultimate in comfort and relaxation, whilst the food crisis has been solved by "ultravendors", vending-style machines with their own never-ending power supply that can synthesise food items from mere passing neutrinos.
But in the age of unparallelled science, disaster strikes! A meteorite, formed from colossal chlorine waste containers dumped into the asteroid belt, hit the Earth dead on the north pole. The subsequent water level rise was accelerated by the antarctic ice melting from the global temperature rises following the cataclysm. The planet, now covered in a warm, chlorinated ocean, was almost devoid of life, if it weren't for man's playthings. Though mankind was wiped out, his pet castes survived the event, and now frolic in the flooded ruins of Earth, sustained by Ultravendors and driven by the lust for adventure.

>> No.21206909

>>21206838
So basically we're looking at teams of catgirls going into old human ruins to find catfood, energy drinks, functioning tech and other assorted goods, right? That was where we left off before everything went to hell shortly after the new thread started?

>> No.21206914
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>>21206757

>Fine, I'll go to my OWN doomsday lab... with blackjack, and hookers.
>Williams creates his own race of catgirls with dicks and giantess and dicknipples
>Umpteen hundred years later, these races have degraded into ogres and goblins and the like because Williams was never really all that good at this stuff
>These things inhabit the last of the land above water leaving the normal races the shallow water coastal whatever areas
>setting is now DnD

>> No.21206915

Previous thread had silicon rock monsters in the ocean. Could you have cat/dog/bunny/whathaveyougirls be able to like, reprogram them or something?

>> No.21206917

>>21206895
I think it's pretty good where we're at now.

>> No.21206920

>>21206909
Just about. We could also invent some local future fauna if we felt saucy.

>> No.21206922

>>21206915
how do you reprogram living creatures?

>> No.21206923

>>21206881
I'm not trying to stop people explaining things, dipshit. I'm saying we don't need to know exactly how these people were made because it's of no relevance to the setting. The technology used to create them has long since been assfucked by the sea, and all humans who knew shit about it are dead, so explaining how it works is pointless.

>> No.21206931

>>21206899
... Okay? I am confused why the strike killed the humans but left the catgirls alive if they hat godlike technology like the ultravendors. In fact i even wonder how they failed to prevent the asteroid from falling on earth.

I think you should drop the superscience.

>> No.21206932

>>21206838
Dangers? I thought the water was empty and the setting geared away from combat. Tech can be virtually anything, feel free to write a long long list of technological items that exists already. Metropolises... yeah, we have those, just look at some pictures. You're talking about things you can come up with dozens of in a minute, and that really are just up to anything the GM can think of. It's just seriously boring.
Flashlights. Maybe sun panels to recharge them. New swimsuits.
On a much more interesting note, and since we're not allowed to discuss the fluff, I'm moving on to technology and social things. I think I'd personally make something out of windmills. Some smart Kemo found blueprints of small, efficient windmills for generating electricity. And is now exploring in order to find generators and transport them back, because seriously, generators ought to be above anything the Kemo can create. Then I imagine there'll always be someone to complain about the noise, and the... something. Some bird that thinks it interferes with their daily flight routine. And they have to be made happy to accept it.

>> No.21206933

OKAY GUYS.
FUCK CATGI- wait that came out wrong- I MEAN FIGURATIVELY
AND MOVE ON TO SETTING.
First: what kinds of junk are they searching for? And if they found it, how do they restore it? Libraries on surface? Databanks?
Second: What awaits them underwater? Why fishing for junk will be exciting for players? "we have catgirls! in swimsuits!" is not a selling point for a setting. For artbook, yes. But not for a setting.

>> No.21206936

>>21206922
I don't really know, someone mentioned something about it so I figured I would bring it back up on this thread in hopes of some sort of technobabble explanation.

>> No.21206941

>>21206920
I'll stay out of that. I'm no good at that kind of thing. I do think there's something to be said for the potential of trading between settlements though. I think a particular trade ship was mentioned at some point a while back.

>> No.21206949

>>21206882
My deal? We were throwing ideas around: You were the ones complaining how it wasn't acceptable. Why are you trying to make me the unreasonable one?

>> No.21206957

>>21206932
No man, the water is full of rockmonsters, and looting old deteriorating and waterlogged buildings is dangerous.

>> No.21206965

>>21206923
Okay then. I'm entirely fine with there being much vaster areas of land than depicted in the pictures. I just thought that since everyone was going "We keep it to the pictures" that such an idea would certainly not be okay, if not even a little background info with little to no effect on gameplay, other than as an occasional plot point, was okay. I accept your suggestion, it makes sense. I also say fuck sticking to the pictures, like you.

>> No.21206974

>>21206936
Someone else mentioned the idea of just taming the beasts. I think something about a particular kind that purified water? I dunno. I figure for the most part rockmonsters are just hostile or neutral creatures, and reprogramming gets saved for robots, done by those few who happen to be particularly interested in tinkering.

>> No.21206978

>>21206932
>and the setting geared away from combat
Correct. It wouldn't be “slog through 20 levels of watergoblins to get the loot” it would be more like you find out that this particular building is a nest of those salamander things and have to sneak by their sleeping dens or a single robot from the old world hunts you down during your excursion and you maybe eventually have to fight it. Danger does not have to mean murderhobo-ing everything.
>>21206941
Well, >>21206043 is a waterbus stop, so there is some form of regulated travel between at least three different towns, Pero Pero, Nekomimi Heaven, and Kemomimi Paradise.

>> No.21206985

>>21206965
I still don't understand why you're so mad. Do you want humans to be alive that badly?

>> No.21206998
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>>21206974
Why not use the silicon parts of the monsters (which make fresh water out of sea water) to make robots/upgrades. They're shiny enough to be made into currency as well.

Some guy last thread also thought up controlling them as drones or something using RC plane and car parts. Maybe mechanics can make slapped together tech?

>implying my fox wife won't being me the shiniest thing in the village this year.

It'll make all the other Kemo jealous.

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>>21206650

EXCUSE ME. Dolphins are notorious for being violent criminals and repeat offenders, whose sole purpose in life is to direct media attention away from their atrocities and towards innocent, kind-hearted sharks.

Dolphin crime has been on the rise for the past five years and continues to grow in the major cities. Studies have shown that 36% of dolphin males of age 25 or younger have already been incarcerated for a felony conviction. Dolphin families moving in devalue the property and increase neighborhood crime rates by up to 350%

Your claims of dolphins being non-violent have been through disproven by the National Shark Association, which can cite an increase in physical assaults and rapes by so-called 'murder pods' which operate from 'rape caves'.

I suggest you get EDUCATED on the dangers of dolphins today, before one of those fin-flippered freaks gets a hold of your dolphin-sympathetic ass and teaches you not to ever trust a cetacean again.

For the rest of you, do you part and PLUG A BLOWHOLE! Join the National Shark Association today to do your part in stopping the dolphin menace.

>> No.21207006

>>21206978
Ah, so I see. Looks like there's also mention of usamimi paradise, inumimi heaven, kemomimi love, and [...]odi.

>> No.21207014

>Catgirl Beachparty Thread
>People getting butthurt about details
Wtf.
Also, you guize keep pouring out ideas, i'm gonna try and build a super-simple system around this.

>> No.21207024

>>21207014
I think it's just one guy. I don't know what his deal is.

>> No.21207028

>>21206846
That seems like a one-way trip to Nice Boat land.

>>21206922
Biochips, which also help keep estrus cycles in check when needed.

Actually, what if 95% of their non-scavenged tech is based around reprogramming non-sentient life-forms?
It'd help with the 'clean' aethetic many people seem to be going for.
As well as introduce a somewhat darker plot hook if some groups would want to go for that.

>> No.21207031

>>21206957
While having certain amount of danger is okay, we don't need to make it overly lethal.

So, rock monsters generally don't give much of a fuck about squishies swimming around and start protesting only when they get on their nerves.

In a case of emergency (gear being damaged by monster) each diver has a flotation device which detects damage and activates, forcefully pulling its wearer from depths.

Old buildings are a lot more dangerous - and that's why divers act in groups - in the event of crumbling there should be someone to help.

>> No.21207036

>>21206978
I meant more that the very real and present danger of mutilation by unfeeling golems and monstrous, uh monsters, went against the lightheartedness. But if we're doing that... I think a dependence to things that said salamanders or whatever dozen monsters exists could work. Like their eggs, while unfertilized, contain some chemical that is needed to treat something or to breed the water-proofing (or salt-filtering) coral/whatever needed to safeguard buildings from collapse (or just to get fresh water).
A fire could happen, and important materials would go lost. Maybe their silkworm farms go up in flames, or just die from disease, and they only live naturally in the deep ruins. New ones are needed but monsters live everywhere.

>> No.21207039

>>21206998
I'm not sure about the whole drone thing, but harvesting them for materials is definitely a good idea.

>> No.21207047
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>>21207014
Why not just use Maid RPG?

Simple stats, roleplay heavy, already has a long list of silly items.

Hell, with that treasure hunter's guild, the master and 'maids' could be Flint and his retinue of sexy cat wives.

>> No.21207056

>>21207031
Oh yeah, I'm not saying that the kemonomimi will have anything to worry about just lazing around in settlements. Diving into old ruins will be the dangerous part.

>> No.21207058

>>21206985
No. I don't care about humans. As I said, I very actively dislike HFY. I wouldn't even have them live with the Kemo, just, create new ones and receive food from them. I just want something to EXPLAIN how it's holding up generation after generation, and the "more land than shown is above water" explains this, thus I've moved on. Sorry if I seemed mad. I wasn't. I just tried to argue against this "eh, it works because it works" attitude, because it leaves a setting more shallow and with fewer interesting plot alternatives.

>> No.21207060

>>21207031

A lifejacket that could be pulled by a ripcord would be useful. Hell, give it a 30 minute oxygen canister slaved to it for the stupid people that go ONE MORE ROOM underwater.

>> No.21207067

>>21206999
Yes, and cats are monsters as well. But their GOOD sides, like being playful, are much more prominent than the good sides of sharks.
Do sharks have good sides? I mean, aside from their positive effect on the ecosystem?

>> No.21207070

>>21206974
Alright, that makes more sense. I'm trying to get what I can remember from the last thread back up. What about the "water filtering fungi" or the coral that grew to make watertight walls so that whathaveyoupeople could move into the lower levels of flooded buildings?

>> No.21207071

>>21206451
Use Google image search you silly.

>> No.21207075

>>21207028
All I'm seeing is Mindcontrol ERP thank you, internet.

>> No.21207077

>>21207067
cheerful smiles?

>> No.21207081

>>21207058
Oh, well, yeah, were you actually assuming that there's only about as much living space as shown in the first picture?

>> No.21207091

Also, we will certainly need air purifiers.
Chlorine evaporation is... nasty.

>> No.21207093

>>21207070
It's dangerous to think alone, read this:
https://archive.foolz.us/tg/thread/21187097/

>> No.21207095

>>21207036
Well there has to be SOME adventure, otherwise there's nothing worth having a beach party over. And you cant have adventure without danger

>> No.21207106

>>21207081
Given that the counter-argument mostly (at least at first) was "We're sticking to only the variants and environments shown in the pictures", I assumed that was the case. I apologize if I upset anyone, that was never my intention and I was never upset myself.

>> No.21207114
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21207114

Take a page from Saturn's Children, maybe? (Well, more than we already have.) The kemonomimi are around not because they were specifically genetically engineered to live through the apocalypse, but because they're basically androids, designed to withstand a whole range of things better than humans.

(Probably the apocalypse had nothing to do with chlorination or salt, unless we have to work with that as Unquestionable Canon: it would have killed everything, even plants -- not just humans. My money's on an ethnicity-targeted bioplague that mutated away the ethnicity-targeted part.)

There are all sorts of pseudorganic robots left, ranging from the quasi-sentient like the Penguin Train to the fully-sapient like the kemonomimi. And, of course, the kemonomimi *are* kemonomimi specifically because they were originally Japanese-designed sexbots.

>> No.21207115

>>21207070
I think actually the main purpose of those was just an explanation for how old human buildings remained standing after sitting in supersalinated chlorine water for who knows how long.

>> No.21207117
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>>21207095
Ruins are dangerous.

Add robots that act like Reaverbots, and you have an adventure.

If you want romance, have the PCs fight over mates on land and party it up before their next dive.

Male PCs could even be things like SONAR techs or field support mechanics. That way, you have someone to make the gear, someone to use it, and someone to bring back MORE SHINY THINGS.

>> No.21207124

>>21206670
That... That doesn't make any sense. The harpy would most likely be much smaller. Square law, envergure and all that.

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>>21207067

That is an absolutely monstrous thing to ask. Do sharks have a good side?

Of course! Sharks are kind-hearted, hard-working and very fair creatures. They may be predators, but humans are predators as well. Sharks need to eat to stay alive, but they simply do it as a job. Dolphins play and torture their prey before consuming it - sharks do not mess around.

Sharks are noble, dependable, reliable, and rarely ever go back on their word. Dolphins, on the other hand, are sneaky, conniving, and inherently malicious, a side effect of their malign intelligence. I doubt a shark could even really grasp the concept of betrayal (except the females, those tend to be smarter).

All in all, I would rather stand in solidarity with a dozen sharks than a hundred dolphins, knowing that each and every shark values me as a brother, while each and every dolphin considers me a potential threat and a potential victim.

I can see the dolphin-controlled media has bombarded you with primitive notions that dolphins are the pinnacle of civilization in a seaborne world, but sadly, such is not the case. Dolphins are humans without morality, they are cunning taking to an animal extreme, and they must be feared.

DOLPHIN DELENDA EST.

Pictured: A brave shark soldier defending his community against the dolphin threat

>> No.21207127

>>21207091
Maybe there could be "chlorine storms" or something where clouds of chlorine gas pass over areas and the inhabitants have gasmasks handy in case of these things.
But to keep the lightheartedness, make it so they tend to happen far out to sea (which would be super-far-out to sea given that the sea is even bigger now), so cases of the "storms" hitting populated areas is incredibly rare.
Could have entire plot hooks about having to take a boat out to a chlorine-heavy area to dive for some lost ship.

>> No.21207129

>>21207093
Thanks for that!
>>21207115
That makes more sense, I was just guessing at a reason because I didn't have the archived thread.

>> No.21207134

>>21207114
Sticking to fleshy meat bags may be a good idea.

Too many robots and this turns into WHY ISN'T THE SALT WATER RUSTING EVERYTHING,

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>>21207106
Oh, well we were going off of more than just the first two pictures. Actually it looks like not all the pictures that were being used in the last thread got reposted. Let me get on that. I wasn't mad or anything. I just didn't understand what you had a problem with. I made a couple posts trying to fill out the details you were looking for. I didn't realize that you were worried about lack actual solid surface to live on.

>> No.21207153

>>21207114
The entire reason robots were brought up was to have an enemy that was entirely unrelated to the people in the setting, and now you want to make them the same thing? That's the dumbest idea in these threads so far.

>> No.21207160

>>21207114
I dunno, I think all life being basically gone and replaced by robots is a bad fit for a lighthearted setting.

>> No.21207169

>>21207126
What? I'm saying that we're taking the traits that we love about certain animals and giving them to a group of people! Many more would have an easier time relating to the playfulness of dolphins. I'm not suggesting that we can't have sharks as well, but that's certainly the first time I've heard them described as anything but unsocial (even in great numbers, like the hammer shark, they rarely do much but hunt together, or at least that we know). We could very well have shark people who are less playful and more stoic, though. Then again, many seemed against the idea of aquatic Kemos in the first place, even if they can't live in the oceans.

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>>21207067

>> No.21207173

>>21207117
You could even have a male PC be the guy who does the more “ladylike” work of spelunking simply because the whole process of being haggled/argued over and bribed with presents scares the fuck out of him.

And I just realized we created inverse-Yautja, which is kinda neat.

>> No.21207176

>>21207134
Why would the robots be made out of materials that rust?

>> No.21207179

>>21207170
... And from Epstar, harbinger of salty doom.

>> No.21207183

>>21207126
Can you take your furfaggotry elsewhere? We already cut all aquatic races from the setting for the time being anyways.

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>>21207129
No problem. Hopefully we can get the thread back on track.

>> No.21207201

>>21207114
>let's take our more unique setting and backstory
>and replace it with a straight rip-off of something I like

>> No.21207207 [DELETED] 

>>21207183

>>world full of water
>>no aquatic races
>>laughinsharkphin.jpg

>> No.21207217

>>21207207
Read the threads before posting.

>> No.21207221

>>21207031
>>21207060
Do you niggas even dive? Ever heard of timed ascensions? Decompression sickness can kill you just as surely as a ruptured tank.

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>>21207207
>chlorinated water
>world is a giant beach resort crossed with a swimming pool
>everything but sponges, rock monsters, grass, insects, birds and Kemos are dead.

>> No.21207227

Would the races have racial ability adjustments?

As far as I can tell we'd have a max of 5 variations, Cat, Large Cat, Dog, Wolf, and Bunny.

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21207230

>>21207184
With moar catgirls?

>> No.21207231

>>21207201
>let's take our more unique setting and backstory
Don't flatter yourself, it's Megaman Legends with less robots and more catgirls.

>> No.21207240

>>21207225

>Octopus, Crab, and Bass in the BoS burger image.

>> No.21207241

>>21207207
Yeah, I said "sure we could have shark people if people are okay with aquatic races living outside of the oceans in special sweet-water area", but we're not having ANY furry shit, regardless. At most, they'd be along the line of mermaids with some things pointing towards sharks or dolphins in behavior. Like the colour of their mermaid tail and stuff. No further than that, even if it's accepted.

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>>21207231
I for one welcome our new reverbot overlords.

>> No.21207245

>>21207207
Hardly even any fish, bro. Force your furfaggotry somewhere else.

Besides, it takes away from the theme of the ocean being the big blue unknown. Its scary, wondrous, and full of treasure. Having a race of humanoids living there ? eaceably detracts from all that.

>> No.21207249

>>21207231
Megaman had giant salty meteors getting cut in half by Jupiter and destroying the polar ice caps resulting in an extinction level event that wiped out most sea life and flooded most of the world? I don't remember it being so stupid.

>> No.21207263

>>21207221
This is true. Though, isn't the odds of dying from decompression sickness lower than dying from lack of oxygen if you're drowning in the ocean? Sounds like a bad-but-better-than-the-alternative "rescue" device... But I say fuck it, anyway.

>> No.21207271

>>21207240
See
>>21207217
Scientists engineered certain species to survive.

>> No.21207272

>>21207031
Salamanders aren't don't kill, they are just notorious hoarders known for stealing fucking everything they can, making them a terror on catgirl towns. They only fight in self defense and will leave an unconscious body well enough alone after they have picked it clean of shinies. We can call them Kleptomanders

Oldguard Robots use stun guns to nonlethally incapacitate intruders.

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>>21207243
Speaking of which, are weapons going to be spearguns?

How are normal chemically propelled weapons gonna work? Compressed air munitions, perhaps?

What kind of armor are we talking about here to survive a dive?

>and lowayea
...And the Lowayea, terrors of the deep?

>> No.21207279

>>21207227
I will never understand why we don't add as many races as possible as long as they're distinct and doesn't cross any kind of line where they get too animalistic.

>> No.21207280

>>21207227
Is there any difference between cat and large cat in kemonomimi?

>> No.21207284

>>21207207
>region full of coastline and shallows
>no aquatic races because catfolk can swim to the bottom (usually)
ftfy

>> No.21207296

>>21207279
There's no reason other than that some guy thought they'd get in the way somehow. I really don't see the problem as long as The spotlight is kept on catgirls so we don't have to flesh out everyone's favorite species.

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>>21207280
House cats vs lions and tigers maybe.

>temptation rxyagra

Ah, the Temptation of Rxyagra... The one female Kemo who has to beat mates off her.

>> No.21207314

>>21207278
Probably slingshots, bolas, rope arts, creative forms of avoiding harm, maybe staffs at best... Or am I the only one who wants to avoid lethal weapons and killing in general? That's why I suggested that many of the "monsters" possess something necessary, so we CAN'T kill them without endangering our survival. Like, we need their eggs, maybe their nets, mushrooms or plants that only live where they nest...

>> No.21207318

psst.
hey.
hey.
tentacle monsters

>> No.21207322

>>21207298
I suppose some difference might be visible between the two. Is it a big enough difference to be considered for different racial attributes rather than just some appearance and personality differences?

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>>21207272

>stun guns
>in water
>nonlethal

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>>21207318
Sorry bud, ocean can't really sustain life anymore.

Some more concept art courtesy the internet.

>> No.21207341

>>21207318
See
>>21206216
>>21206203

>> No.21207348

>>21207325
Would something that stuns a human on land kill the same person underwater?

>> No.21207354

>>21207278
>What kind of armor are we talking about here to survive a dive?
Modern day divers frequently wear some chainmail (not full chainmail, obviously, but like gloves and stuff) when studying sharks. Take that how you will.

>>21207318
Octopi mutated by the shift in salinity and possibly affected by the genetic engineering of some species it begins to feed on?

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>>21207325
Not everything has to be underwater.

>> No.21207365

>>21207322
I'd imagine there might be a height difference, and the shape of their ears and tail would be different, but I don't really see the point in giving them entirely different racial modifiers.

>> No.21207379

>>21207340
That picture gives me an idea. Why not make a village that caters to these divers with a town square where our divers meet to resupply and buy goods? This could also be a place for marriage festivals or special events. There could be other places people live, but this place is the Mecca of treasure hunting scuba divers.

There's an idea somewhere in the thread for one already, IIRC, too.

>> No.21207402

>>21207365
It could be a simple modifier.

Cats, bunnies, and dogs are weaker then lions, wolves, and wild hares, but domesticated animals care less about brute force and more about finesse.

>> No.21207417

>>21207379
>That bull-masked dude in the background

I'd like to see a city that's chock full of miles of winding canals like that, bristling with shops of all kinds and people milling about, spending their free time or waiting for a nearby storm to pass.

What are we going to do about storms?

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>>21207379
That's good, especially since, if people were to play a game in this setting, they would almost certainly be doing the scavenging thing.

>>21207365
Fair enough. Of course, we currently have setting only and no system design at all, so it's a moot point right now.

>> No.21207429

>>21207325
Not literal electricity. More like tranq darts and beanbag shotguns. I meant literally anything nonlethal.

>> No.21207431

>>21207348
There's an idea.

Can we somehow make a gun that fires arcs of electricity and adapt it for exploring? Short circuits robots, stuns enemies, all in one exploration tool.

>angles eersinfur

Angles Eersinfur: creator of the arc-gun.

>> No.21207434

>>21207402
-1 Strength, +1 Dexterity for domesticated; +1 Strength, -1 Dexterity for wild?

>> No.21207442
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>>21207279
Because the more races you add in the more specialized they have to be.

We could add in foxgirls, there probably is one in one of the images anyway, and maybe bear or something.

The worst thing to ever happen to elves though was making far too many of them. Keep it focused and not all over the place.

>> No.21207460

>>21207442
I don't really think so. Why does every race have to be very different from another? This is diversity for diversity's sake, not for the sake of combat mechanics.

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>>21207379
We could also have a town that scavenged more Old Tech than most and as such is sort of like Neko-Japan or Hong Kong, full of bright lights and more construction/infrastructure than most settlements.

>> No.21207467

>>21207442
bear dudes

prestige race

some cat boys grow up to find out they're not really all that... catty.

at least they found vindication for having their stubby tail made fun of

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>>21207431
>angles eersinfur

"Angles Ears'n'Fur"

I just daw'd at that name.

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>>21207442
Not necessarily. A lot of different kemonomimi could share the same racial template, or just have minor boons that don't really amount to anything. I think it'd be best fo just pay attention to a couple major races (cats, dogs and rabbits was the main consensus earlier I think) during development while assuming that there's actually a huge variety of kemonomimi species in existence to allow for a more diverse character cast.

>> No.21207506

>>21207464
>>21206235
>>21206302


Well, we have a base. Time to fluff it up.

What do divers need other then mechanics, a place to buy and sell loot and gear, and an adventure agency?

Perhaps that freighter/transport ship takes people to and fro or something?

>> No.21207509

>>21207460

Well then look at the origin. Going by the clone origin, scientists can only create so many things to start off with.

>> No.21207542

Sharks are indicative of healthy tropical coral ecosystems.

The small fish and other small sea-life that help manage and grow coral reefs are preyed upon by medium-sized sea life. When the medium-sized sea life is too great in abundance it actually damages the balance of the ecosystem because they eat all the small "maintenance" species. Sharks keep these medium species in low concentrations, which allows the small-life to flourish and therefore the coral reef to flourish. Most of the time the sharks are starving, but that's considered a good thing.

That's all I have to contribute. Someone can "cute-ify" this information for the purposes of this thread because I can't.

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>>21207509
You don't put enough faith in the scientists. Remember, all of humanity's resources were dedicated to this project in their last generation.

Here's >>21206163 in winter

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>>21207506
A hangout for after work?

>> No.21207566

>>21207506
Well, they'd need motivation.

But that's covered, considering they would be looting for shinies/necessary materials to woo mates/fix shit respectively.
Capital/food/supplies is covered by the agency
Mechanics maintain all the shit, maybe double as stock-keepers
Markets handle the gear

But you're right, we got nothing for transportation

I propose a charismatic and colorful owner of a transportation system, probably boat-based but maybe with some riding animals too? Giant turtles, flounders, maybe even birds?

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>>21207542
It's not much use, really, not much lives in the chlorine water. Sorry.

>>21207566
Not sure about the aquatic life riding animals. Birds might work. Boats are best.

>> No.21207612

>>21207566
>I propose a charismatic and colorful owner of a transportation system
If we're still taking some ideas from the pictures, the one in the second post in this thread has what appears to be the sign for a water-bus, so that's one kind of transport down?

>> No.21207618

>>21207566
Waterbus is one thing we already have. We could have canal taxis in the style of Florence for low distance traveling.

>> No.21207636

>>21207566

I assume submarines or even hydrofoils would work long distance. The waterbus is probably a hydrofoil or maybe even an old timey steam ferry.

>> No.21207655

>>21207566
>>21207590
ARIA-style gondolas.

>> No.21207688

>>21207509
I think cloning has been heavily debunked by now though, and I'm saying that as the guy who came up with it. But say we do cloning, as an exercise, there's no reason why they couldn't have an extensive library of samples.
>>21207498
I can agree on this, although... Somehow it feels like we should come up with a different set of "standard" variants, at least while developing it. Cats and dogs may not have very different requirements for thriving, so solving a problem for one solves it for the other. It would be better to focus on, say, land-living mammals, birds, lizards, and sweet-water aquatic beings. Because then we have a more solid base for detailing these very different but required systems for their habitation.

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>>21207636
I like to think it's a bit more oldschool since it's something they'd have to maintain themselves. Maybe not though, they might be able to keep a fancy boat patched together and functioning.

>>21207655
gondolas are good, but only for fairly short trips.

>> No.21207721

>>21207636
No submarines. Too hi-tech to be maintained. I think the consensus is that the Kemos are mostly living and using what's been left for them creatively, without being able to maintain it or create much new. At least not new and of the same level of technology.

>> No.21207726

>>21207688

Why don't we just say a ton of Kemo exist, maybe even more then what's been concepted out here?

That way, we can focus on the big 3 (cats, dogs, rabbits), but other Kemo can potentially show up in people's worlds?

We could even go as far and just do what >>21207434 did.

Each race gets a bonus and a malus relating to their animal counterpart.

Bam, people who want fish people get fish people in their games, while we get to focus on the Big 3 in the overall setting.

>> No.21207733

>>21207272
>Salamanders aren't don't kill, they are just notorious hoarders known for stealing fucking everything they can, making them a terror on catgirl towns. They only fight in self defense and will leave an unconscious body well enough alone after they have picked it clean of shinies. We can call them Kleptomanders
Still reading through the thread, but I wanted to say I really like this idea.

(I also liked the idea of old creepy scientists creating the catgirls after the fall of humanity because of how silly it is, but seeing how we're placing the setting well after their origins become irrelevant I'll keep it as headcanon. Just kudos to the anon who posted that.)

>> No.21207766

>>21207726
But even if those three ARE the big ones in terms of population, solving all problems for those three can be done by solving the problems any one of them encounters, and leaves a lot of Kemo types with many issues left to solve.
Oor perhaps that's exactly what you're saying, that we solve the issues that the most numerous ones face together, and we've solved the largest amount of problems for the largest amount of Kemos. Which works, I guess.

>> No.21207773
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>>21207688
Well I think land-mammals were being focused on because it was assumed that the player races would be mostly catgirls and similar races. That's not to say that we shouldn't flesh out other things, just that most wildlife besides the kemonomimi and rockmonsters went extinct. Also, when did the cloning thing get debunked?

>>21207726
I think this is probably the best way to handle the kemonomimi variety issue.

>>21207733
Oh yeah I hadn't noticed the kleptomander thing. That's pretty good.

>> No.21207789

>>21207773
I thought I was involved in a lengthy discussion about cloning that was basically me for and everyone else against? Or did I somehow completely misunderstand what we were discussing?

>> No.21207793
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>>21207766
I don't see how that's even really a thing when they're all living together.

>> No.21207795

>>21207773
I think he meant catgirls or remnant humans reproducing by cloning. I was pretty against the idea of either.

>> No.21207808

>>21207733
Kleptomander guy here. I also was one of the ones suggesting pervy mad scientists. I like that this thread has gotten back on track on that sort of crazy nonsense instead of the other annoying nonsense.

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>>21207789
>>21207795
Oh that bit, yeah. I wouldn't say debunked, but I don't think it really fits the light-hearted post-human setting.

>> No.21207834

SO, what we have, is there is NO dependence on food that would come from the ocean, because there IS no food in the ocean. This leaves hunting on land, raising domesticated animals, and agriculture. Domesticated animals... nah, that'd involve using more of the agricultural yield than the meat animals would return. On the other hand, cats need meat. Keep domestication to a minimum, focus on agriculture and hunting? And by agriculture I mean stuff like growing vegetables in pots and jars, hanging from windows and such. Well, perhaps base food like potatoes.
OR, if we have water purification and if sweet water lakes still exist, which I assume they do, they could have fish farms in unflooded bathhouses and pools.

>> No.21207851

>>21207793
Maybe not. Mammals and octopus girls may have different needs, but those parts are easy to solve.

>> No.21207857

>>21207834
Theres some oceanic food, just not enough to sustain large populations. Most food stocks are a mixture of light fishing/crabbing, minor agriculture, and whatever they happen to scavenge in their travels.

>> No.21207859

>>21207834
Well, we have the tech to purify water.

Grass, bugs, and birds exist. All of those have some nutritional value. Sure, grubs don't sound too tasty, but cubs gotta grow.

There's probably plenty of bird hunting going on, and divers probably bring back canned pet foods and such (along with energy drinks).

I guess if you really get desperate, there's the sea sponges.

Maybe we can make some sort of 'buggalo', an insect that is high in meaty protean and can survive in harsh condition?

>> No.21207878

>>21207859
Grass you need more than one stomach to benefit from. Please say we ain't going there, for there lies madness.

>> No.21207888

>>21207859

What about those auto replicators?

Maybe the Nyadorns Council or whoever rules a particular zone has a stock of those things and makes sure people get fed. In exchange, you get currency by protecting the place from rock monsters, entertaining, diving, maybe even working as a freelancer.

That way we solve our hamburger and fish problem.

>> No.21207901

>>21207834
By the size of the fish in >>21206043, just one would be enough to feed several people for a few days. Same goes for the crabs. Especially if these are catgirls who spend most of their days lazing about.

We could even include a stat for food consumption vs the amount of turns you get per round or something if we want to compare different races.

Cats - low food consumption, low energy
Dogs - high food consumption, high energy
Bunnies - moderate food consumption, high energy, low strength/endurance

And so on.

>> No.21207904

Fresh-water pond algea

>> No.21207911
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>>21207834
There's also grabbing canned food out of ruins. Though it's not sustainable long-term, I think that a period when a lot of the food being eaten is getting scavenged would be a fun period to play the setting in. Fish farms have the same issue as domesticated animals with the investment return. So yeah, hunting, gathering, and scavenging, with a bit of agriculture.

>>21207851
I'm still of the opinion that having water based creatures kind of detracts from the idea that the water is uninhabitable.

>>21207878
He probably meant grains and other edible plants.

>>21207888
You mean the vending machines. I thought that was a pretty cool idea, but they're probably old and unreliable enough that they can't be trusted to provide enough food for everyone to eat.

>> No.21207926

>>21207878
Granted.

And on the matter of diet, I agree with whoever said we can keep closer to human needs than their animal counterpats. Catfolk can need more meat and birdfolk have a fondness for seeds, but I don't think we need to be too strict. They're still humans with a handful of animal-like features, as far as I can see.

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>>21207901
I thought we were going with the idea that the water was basically pool water and that the ocean life was dead. I don't know about the consumption thing. All of them are almost human anyway, how different could their dietary needs be? Like >>21207926 says.

>> No.21207953

>>21207943
>I thought we were going with the idea that the water was basically pool water and that the ocean life was dead.
It was mentioned in the last thread (and the beginning of this one) that the scientists genetically modified a handful of sea creatures to survive.
That's where the whole kemonomimi being genetically engineered came from.

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>>21207953
Oh yeah, I'd forgotten about that, thank you.

>> No.21207973

>>21207943
>>21207953

For the sake of food (and sanity) we can assume that there could be giant crabs, or cuttlefish.

Imagine a team of divers taking out a giant squid whose SINGLE tentacle could feed the entire village for a month.

>desigag 1337

A single Desigag feeding a village for 1337 months? A bit much...

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>>21207973

>Giant enemy crabs
>Giant enemy crab meat
>No weak point

>> No.21208008

>>21207968
>books
I assume there wouldn't be many of those left, since any that would have survived the floods would have been ruined by the high humidity.
Is our new civilization illiterate?

>> No.21208010

>>21207973
Although this raises the question of what said sea creatures eat. Other then sponge and rock things.

Wait, there's a lot of sponges, right? Why not make a type of sea creature that thrives in deep water, eats sponges, and is coincidentally nutritious, plentiful, and hard to get so divers need to be employed?

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So considering that scientists genetically engineered kemonomimi and marine life, would they have genetically engineered kemonomimi marine life as well?

>> No.21208029

>>21208008

Maybe. Only few can read ancient texts.

>> No.21208033

>>21207943
Some things survived, its just not the ocean teeming with life that we once knew.

Maybe to replace algae as the bottom of the food chain, we have photosynthetic fish that are easy to raise, but not all that big or tasty. They travel in schools and are eaten up by the bigger fish like the ones near the burger stand. Just a thought.

>I don't know about the consumption thing. All of them are almost human anyway, how different could their dietary needs be?
I didnt mean it would be something drastic, just a little variability to make the game more fun and maybe to make food a resource you have to keep a track of.
For example

A catgirl will be fine with just a small fish, but don't expect her to do too much in combat. Shes great for exploring and average at lifting things, though.

A bunnygirl would only need a carrot or two every now and then and would be bouncing off the walls, but one hit and shes out like a light. Her small frame would mean that she wont be lifting much either. Good for scouting due to their speediness, but they lack the natural curiosity of cats that's make the catgirls s good at finding treasure.

A doggirl, on the other hand, is pretty much all about combat. Heavy hitting and more energetic than the catgirl makes her the tank of the party. Her dense frame also means she will be hauling most of the loot. Of course, that means shes gonna be eating an entire tankcrab per night, because lemme tell you, dogs can fucking eat. They also are the least curious of the bunch, usually leaving the treasure hunting to the cats and bunnies.

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>>21208011
We could just assume nature has done its thing and left a few things alive. Nature has a weird tenancy to not accept being stamped out easily. I bet there has to be the equivalent of sea roaches.

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>>21208008
I would assume so, there's still signs and other text everywhere, and at one point humanity and kemonomimi were alive at the same time. It's probably not an important skill, however.

>> No.21208038

>>21208011
This is a legitimate question, but I think I'll side with those who want to keep the oceans foreign, mysterious and uninhabitable for the main characters. Flavor-wise, it gives a better vibe IMO.

>> No.21208047

>>21208011
Maybe the reason they didn't just make marine kemonomimi at the same time as the land ones is because there were more problems in helping them survive, so they had to test the process on normal marine life first, but didn't have time to finish marine kemo before they passed away.

>> No.21208052

>>21208011
Mans vanity demanded that they create only land-based life.

Or not, I would just much rather keep it land-based to keep the ocean as its own entity rather than just another biome.

>> No.21208077

>>21208036
>>21208038
>>21208047
>>21208052

I have to agree with these anons.

The ocean should be a mysterious, somewhat even spooky place. You're basically robbing tombs. A race that calls the unknown home kinda detracts from that.

>> No.21208121

>>21207340
What really gets me about this picture is the fish swimming through the air as well as the water.

The more I look at these images, the less I think the apocalypse is even vaguely scientific in nature. It looks like Fairyland decided to annex the Earth, half-flood the place with magic preservative liquid that looks like water (but that algae and barnacles can't grow in), and quick-grow plants across half of everything.

>> No.21208141

>>21208121
Maybe that's what makes it so much fun.

>> No.21208162

>>21207278
Maybe melee characters can use spears and harpoons. Tridents are also pretty classically water related.

As for range... Harpoon guns and net launchers? Maybe gadgets that release ink?

>>21207431
Or something as crazy as an arc gun. I bet salt water conducts electricity really well.

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>>21208033
Okay, that's starting to sound fairly interesting. Would you be able to put numbers and balance behind that at all? It's not necessary for the time being, of course.

>>21208034
Even with such a sudden, drastic change in the water chemistry? Maybe, I guess.

>>21208038
>>21208047
>>21208052
>>21208077
I do agree that having sentients capable of living in the water ruins the empty ocean vibe. I like the explanation in >>21208047 for why it didn't happen. >>21208052 works as well.

>>21208077
Wouldn't there be plenty to loot above water level as well?

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>>21208121
HA HA! TIME FOR SKYWHALES

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>>21208168
Sure, you can loot stuff above ground, but that's not as romantic as slapping on a respirator, turning on a flashlight, and jumping into the unknown depths that await.

Hearing every breath would become unsettling. Maybe even more then knowing that you only have a stick or knife to protect yourself from whatever still lurks in an environment that'll kill you when you run out of precious O2.

>> No.21208208

>>21208168
>Wouldn't there be plenty to loot above water level as well?
At first, but those places would be the first to be emptied due to easy access.
If the society is in such a state that diving down to the ruins is the main way to gain tech and shinies, it's safe to assume that all the known above-ground ruins have already been looted entirely. Possibly even turned into settlements.

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>>21208162
I can see harpoon guns being useful.

Salt is a really good conductor so >>21207431 would be a really good idea too.

>> No.21208216

>>21208168
>Wouldn't there be plenty to loot above water level as well?
Since we said this is set pretty far in the future, I would imagine that most of the surface has been looted already and scavengers now need to search underwater increasingly to find the goods.
Maybe that's just me, though.

>> No.21208217

>>21208206
Or stuff above water is entry level and looted already. What separates divers from common scavengers is that they go the extra level and brave the depths.

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>>21208033
>Party of dog/wolf/fox girls and a bunny chef. Adventure!

>> No.21208294

This is going to need another thread soon.

>> No.21208299

>>21208238
Reminds me of that pic of the puppy, kitten, bunny and maybe something else with their classes written above them.

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>>21208121
>>21208141
The images are just for ideas, of course, but yeah, it would probably be more fun to say that some vague magic shit happened and now everything is flooded and perfectly preserved in a land inhabited by kemonomimi, but it doesn't take any work to say that. There's a certain charm in taking an idea and figuring out how to tweak it so that it can be fleshed out with at least a rather far-fetched sci-fi explanation. That said, when you're actually playing a game in a setting, it's easy to GM fiat something back into "It works this way and I don't gotta explain shit" mode if need be.

>>21208206
Isn't the setting supposed to be fairly light hearted and such?

>>21208208
>>21208216
>>21208217
Would they really run out of above water things to scavenge before getting an actual society of their own set up?

>> No.21208310

>>21208294
Is anyone keeping track of whatever we decide? Is this going on 1d4chan?
It's going to get offputting for newcomers to read through the archives to know where we're at.

>> No.21208321

>>21208294
>This is going to need another thread soon.
We're page six.
We can go on for another two hours or so.

>> No.21208334

>>21208304
>Would they really run out of above water things to scavenge before getting an actual society of their own set up?
If they're lazy bums spending most of their time throwing beach parties and sunbathing, maybe.
Then again, depends on how much of the surface is left (also considering there wouldn't be much tech/processed goods to scavenge in the mountains).

>> No.21208339

>>21208321
We might want some new blood though. Not many people pass the first page nowadays.

>>21208304
And what I think that guy was trying to say is you still have to manage your air and it's not like monsters will just give up loot. Might be light hearted, but the danger is still there.

Otherwise, everyone would be diving for shinies.

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>>21208310
I guess someone should track what the general consensus is on things so that we can record them. I'd be willing to make a wiki page for it.

>>21208334
Possibly. You also have to consider how large the kemonomimi population would likely be and how many of them would be actually doing the scavenging compared to the size of the coastal metropolitan areas.

>>21208339
That's true I guess. He just did an excellent job of making it seem dark.

So should we make a new thread soon? Are we going with the CATastrophe name?

>> No.21208453

>>21208406
>Are we going with the CATastrophe name?
I made a folder called post-apocatgirls on my drive to save a few of the pics, for what it's worth. I suck at names so I won't interfere.

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>>21208406
Sounds good.

>> No.21208518

“So this is it, huh? I don’t see any treasure.” Shansha took off her scuba mask and began scratching aggresively at her ears and wringing out her tail to the best of her ability. Those rubber straps always irritated her ears and the water did her no favors either.

“S’what the wanderer said. Said he didn’t have the gear to go down himself, but he could somethin’ shinin’ down underwater.” Marko stretched, also removing his mask and letting it hang around his neck. Their troupe just hit the air pocket on the old tower. He hopefully wouldn’t need it for a little while now. He liked the taste of this stale air the ruins captured. It tasted like…history.

“You met a guy wandering all alone? Why didn’t you bring him back to town?” J’kai cut in, ears perking up as she suddenly became interested in the conversation.

“Because I'm not evil enough to wish that upon even my most hated enemies.” Quipped, giving her ear a little flick as he walked by her.

“Hey! Meanie! ‘Sides, I never hear YOU complaining.” J’kai countered, rubbing her ear defensively.

“That’s, enough, ladies!” a woman, the only one still wearing her scuba mask, barked at the trio before remembering to add on a “…and Marko. We came here for a reason, so let’s get whatever it is you were looking for and get the hell out of here before any Oldguards show up.”

>> No.21208525

>>21208518
“You the boss, BB.” Marko shrugged. He seriously doubted there would be any Oldguard in this ruin. They usually only showed up in the ones with real shiny stuff. The only reason this place hadn’t been picked clean by other treasure hunters yet was due to how far off from any settlement it was. They would’ve never bothered to even check if it wasn’t for that tip. Of course, it was Bahi-Bahi’s job to be cautious, that eyepatch of hers was a constant reminder of what happens when you get careless while spelunking. Not that she’s any less aggressive than before. If anything, she got meaner and tougher from the encounter. You know what that say about porcupine dogs…

The quartet wandered around the ruin for a spell, grabbing an energy drink here and some catnip there, but never finding anything to make the trip worthwhile.

“I think that wanderer sold you bad intel, Marko.” Shansha smirked

“Nah, he seemed trustworthy enough. It’s gotta be around here somewhere…”

She only giggled at his denials “Face it. You got scammed, sweetheart.”

“Aha! There it is!” Marko’s face brightened as he ran forward and hugged a strange looking box with a glass panel on one side.

“A box? That’s what we came all this way for?” J’kai raised an eyebrow in confusion.

“None of you have ever stepped foot in the Archives, have you?” Marko sighed

>> No.21208530

>>21208525
“Reading about all that old stuff is boring when you could be finding it!” J’kai countered cheerily

“That’s men’s work. No reason to bother myself with it.” Shansha shrugged.

“I keep meaning to, but…” Bahi-Bahi offered weakly.

Marko let out another sigh. “Well, if any of you HAD bothered to listen to all the voices captured on the speakyboxes, you would know that the Earless used these things to store information, if I can only get it to–” he plugged a few wires into his portabattery and began pressing buttons seemingly at random until he was finally rewarded with a glimmer of light from the glass panel “–turn on. And there we go. Time to find out what the Earless saved on this one.” After typing on the tablet in front of him and gazing intently at the screen for a few minutes, much to the mystification of the three girls, Marko leaned back and pulled on his ears in frustration, letting them droop flat. “And the thing is locked. It needs a password, I think, but I have no idea how to figure out what, though”

“Well, if I was going to put a password on something, I would make it something easy to remember like ‘password’.” J’kai offered helpfully, entranced by the gentle swaying of a nearby dangling light

J’kai, bless her heart, was virtually every stereotype about her kind rolled into one. She was scatterbrained, as lazy as any of her kind in even the most dire of circumstances, it was damn hard to motivate her to do anything she didn’t want to do, and Bahi-Bahi would NEVER trust her with an arc rifle. And yet, when push came to shove, she was one of the best treasure hunters around. To this day, no one knows how she managed to lift an entire energy drink vending machine, much less swipe one from the middle of a den of kleptomanders without waking a single one of them up. Marko shrugged and decided to try her suggestion anyways. It couldn’t hurt.

>> No.21208544

>>21208530
“…It worked.”

“Hah! I'm a genius! In your FACE, Marko!”

Marko just chuckled quietly to himself and got back to work, removing various electronics from their waterproof containers and plugging them into the ancient machine and typing and clicking furiously, pausing occasionally to shoo away J’kai whenever her boredom compelled her to bat at his flitting tail. Finally he let out an exuberant cheer and began packing up his equipment.

“So what’d you find?” Shansha looked up from the rubble she had been occupying herself with, some nondescript object shining in her hand. “Some sorta treasure trove of old words?”

“Nope, something better.”

“Blueprints for some of the mechworks back home?”

“Even better.”

“Just tell us already!” J’kai interrupted frustratedly.

“Fine, fine, but only because you asked so nicely.” Marko hit a button on the speakybox he brought with him, prompting it to emit a bizarre noise.

“Is that…music?” Bahi-Bahi eyed him from her defensive point watching the door they came in from, lowering her arc rifle ever so slightly.

“Earless music.” Marko triumphantly corrected her.

“Oh man, this is gonna be the BEST pool party ever when we get back!” J’kai shouted before falling into jubilant gossip and planning with Shansha. Even Bahi broke down and started discussing what she was going do when they got back to town and who she was going to woo with her loot, her tail wagging so fast that Marko could feel a gentle breeze as he walked behind the group, silently praising himself for his decision of career change from mechano-historian to treasure hunter.

>> No.21208552
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On the subject of transport: what's the technology level of the setting?

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Sorry about that. Just a shitty little writefaggotry this thread inspired. Have a tropical boardwalk as recompense.

>> No.21208592

>>21208518
>>21208525
>>21208530
>>21208544
I like it!

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>>21208518
>>21208525
>>21208530
>>21208544

What kinda shiny does it take to become your mate~?

And make sure to repost this in a nonautosaging thread.

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>>21208552
My guess is that most things would be relatively low-tech, with a few pieces of Earless techno that they could get to work

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http://1d4chan.org/wiki/CATastrophe Okay I made the wiki page. Not sure what to put on there at this point. What all have we fully established?

>>21208552
I think the idea is that it's fairly futuristic, but most of it is old and losing functionality.

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>>21208602

Too high tech?

>> No.21208658

>>21208629
Not if it were to look old and patched together, I'd say.

>> No.21208661

>>21208629

That'd make for one awesome find in the ruins, a couple of those.

>> No.21208662

>>21208604
I think we need a disclaimer that we're focusing on a few main races (say cats, dogs and bunnies) for the time being, but that it doesn't actually exclude other animal types. Also explain why we have no sea creatures.

Maybe post summaries of possible justifications for the setting with a note that we're leaving that aspect up to individual GMs (there was the genetic engineering, something about clones, some guy wanted droids...).

Probably something about the fact there is some amount of land still reachable although they mostly live seaside.

Posting some of the images on the wiki with a mention that we don't have to limit ourselves to what is seen would probably be helpful.

>> No.21208671

>>21208662
We have no sapient sea creatures. Oceanic animals exist, there are just significantly less of them.

>> No.21208696

>>21208604
I guess we can put the basic info

>salt comet and how it hit earth
>humans last HOORAH was kemonomimi
>Williams was a terrible scientist
>Kemo people exist, the Big 3 are Cats, and Rabbits
>Society is matriarchal, men are scholars, husbands, and mechanics, women are hunters and breadwinners
>not uncommon for a male to have multiple suitors
>Old Gaurds and Kleptomanders guard old tech
>the merchant caravan Purnanym, operated by Purna and Nym.
>Arc rifles are created by Angles Eersinfur and see wide use
>Flint Thickmane heads the Nyadorns Council, which doubles as diver Mecca
>people dive under the waves for cool stuff

Anything I missed?

FOR SHINIES, GLORY, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY: MATES!

>> No.21208714

>>21208696
>>Kemo people exist, the Big 3 are Cats, Dogs, and Rabbits
Fixed that for you.

>> No.21208726

>>21208714
>using "fixed that for you" after legitimately fixing something for someone
I don't think I've ever actually seen that before.

>> No.21208736
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>>21208658

Too low tech?

>> No.21208742

>>21208714
>>21208726

And I don't think I've ever thanked anyone for fixing something for me, either.

Thanks.

>> No.21208746

>>21208726
I know, right? I felt really weird doing it and almost wanted to add in a disclaimer saying I wasn't being a smarmy little douche.

>> No.21208749

>>21208736
Not as something the kemonomimi built themselves, but in that case possibly a bit too well done?

>> No.21208774

>>21208696
You could probably cut out all of the named stuff. We could also work to flesh out their society a little more. I kinda like the idea of most towns acting like a sort of permanent tourist town, where everything is centered around relaxation and having a good time. There isn't so much an ordered government as there is a collection of people who just want to take it easy together.

>> No.21208776

>>21208604
>>21208696

Question is, who's a bad enough dude to put that on the wiki?

>carry sxparti

Yes, they'll be carried to a sexy party and probably get plenty of mates.

>> No.21208786
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>>21208736
I'm thinking more like

>> No.21208804

>>21208774

Well, unless anyone else has objections no sense throwing away things that can be polished into better things later. Considering we just got out of an argument that there was too much left to hand waving as it is.

... I am a setting making packrat.

>> No.21208808

>>21208776
I can put on the wiki what people agree upon here. I can't make any guarantees about quality though. I don't have much experience with this.

>> No.21208822

>>21208804
Fair enough. Most of that was just people being silly, though. And I see Angles Ears n Fur being a clothes shop more than a weapons manufacturer.

>> No.21208838

>>21208804
I think we should probably keep it, just put the more fleshed out specifics it in a different section than the main background stuff.

>> No.21208848

>>21208838
>>21208822
>>21208804

Why not just have a general setting tab and then a fluff tab with characters, cities, fluffy explanations and stories?

That way, we can have the best of both worlds.

>> No.21208859

>>21208848
I think thats what >>21208838 was after and it sounds good to me.

>> No.21208865

>>21208838
>>21208848
>>21208859
Alright going with that then.

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21208872

>>21208604

>> No.21208881
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21208881

>>21208872
>Cestree
>Catgirl

>> No.21208898

>>21208592
>>21208601
Dawww, thanks you two. Just trying to give back to the magic that is /tg/'s rampant imagination.

>> No.21208919

>>21208898
would you like for/mind if it got preserved on 1d4chan?

>> No.21208922

>>21208696

Forgot chlorine gas and storms, auto replicator vending machines, as well as cats loving energy drinks based off taurine content, pet food being a luxury, and how there may or may not be giant enemy crabs used as food.

>> No.21208954

>>21208919
Go for it.

>> No.21208956
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21208956

>>21208786

There's no biotech is there?

>> No.21208964

>>21208956
Well technically, the catgirls ARE biotech.

>> No.21208967

>>21208922
Do we still have the guy here who knows how the salt meteor chlorinates the ocean?

>> No.21208988
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21208988

Going with the tropical vibe, I'd go for something like a lateen sail with outriggers, at least for local work.

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21209004

>>21208967

Table salt is made of Potassium and Chloride atoms (NA-CL)

TLDR: Water breaks down the bonds, leading to the salt chlorinating the water. (NA and CL ions dissolving the bonds into the water.

... From what I remember...

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21209007

Maybe a brigantine rig for longer trips.

>> No.21209015

>>21208988
Any motorized stuff should have a clean look to it, too. Sure, the boat can be cobbled together out of scrap metal, but it shouldn't be belching smog and pollution to run.

>> No.21209021

>>21209004
So could I chlorinate my pool by dumping a bunch of salt into it? Why isn't the salt water ocean chlorinated?

>> No.21209037

>>21209004
Close, it's sodium chloride.

What happened to all the lost sodium?

>> No.21209045

>>21209037

Eaten by sponges and rock monsters. They need that stuff to live.

>> No.21209075

Did we decide why humans died? Was it the chlorine gas?

>> No.21209077

>>21209045
But it doesn't disappear...
do they have sodium shells?

>> No.21209080

>>21209075
names go in the name field, right.

>> No.21209083

>>21209075
Well human beings are sort of depended on the ocean right?

>> No.21209089

There must be a zillion sleek little motor cruisers around.

Probably battery powered now. Solar panels are a common sight around all settlements, and a status symbol too, being shiny and all.

>> No.21209090

>>21209077
Could it just be dispersed on the sea floor at that point?

>> No.21209100

>>21209077
I thought about that earlier but didn't wanna risk saying a load of crap. Science isn't my forte.

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21209107

FFS, getting the captcha wrong takes the picture off... one last try.

>> No.21209118

>>21209083
Not entirely. I'm sure it would be a problem for humanity if the aquatic ecosystem was destroyed, but I don't think it would kill all of them off.

>> No.21209119

>>21209100

Well, sodium is made of potassium and chlorine, right?

Maybe they metabolize the potassium?

>> No.21209122

>sodium shells?

For gods sake don't stand on them if they do.

Sodium is very reactive in water.

>> No.21209140

>>21209118
I think there was a massive world encompassing haze of chlorine gas, as well as the dealing with the whole world flash flooding and the impact of a meteor. Humanity just sort of dwindled away after that.

>> No.21209141

>>21209118
Lack of O2 making Allege? Kermos were supposed to use less air, which makes sense if they're also gonna be divers.

Efficient circulatory systems, perhaps?

>> No.21209149

>>21209119
Sodium is an element. Table salt is made out of sodium and chloride. Potassium doesn't get involved.

>> No.21209170

>>21209149
And that's why I stay away from chemistry.

>> No.21209173

>>21209140
>>21209141
Okay so it was a combination of the world just being fucked and the fact that lots of chlorine went into the air while oxygen producers died off? And then the kemonomimi were able to breathe that air? Okay I get it.

>> No.21209181

>>21209173
Humanitys last act was stabilizing the world to some degree and creating the kemomimi who could cope with the new world.

>> No.21209188

>>21209141
I like this, it ties in together nicely.

Maybe they can even breathe the stuff, chlorine is pretty reactive after all, but we're well into fantasy biology there.

I wouldn't reduce their oxygen needs too much though, or they'll be very inactive and lazy by nature.

Maybe they can store oxygen in their tissues and take a while to sleep off a good adventure and recharge.

>> No.21209206

>>21209188
We did already establish that they spend most days lazing about and playing in the water. They live a very relaxed life, these kemomimi.

>> No.21209212

>>21209188
Why not go a step further and say that some races use less oxygen then others?

Cats < Bunnies < Dogs

That way, you'd have lighter races not weighed down with canisters and it's pretty fluffy.

>> No.21209221

>>21209188
>or they'll be very inactive and lazy by nature
aren't they already?

>> No.21209239

>>21209149
Look, it's a meteor from space, maybe it doesn't have to be table salt.
Maybe we can just combine chlorine with a made-up element that just floats in the air when the chlorine comes lose from it
maybe killing all humans in the process?

>> No.21209256

>>21209239
Why not just make the meteor chlorine and then let the chlorine gas kill humanity?

>> No.21209257

Someone should also archive this shit before it dies.

>> No.21209305

>>21209257
foolz has it covered, and I'm working on recording what we've actually decided to keep.

>> No.21209330

>>21209221
Well yes, but I imagine them absolutely bursting with energy for a few hours, and then putting in a 48 hour nap, like real cats do.

>> No.21209347

>>21209330
would that not be possible under the proposed low oxygen use respiratory system?

>> No.21209365

Could some biofag come up with an advantageous
ability that uses chlorine?

>> No.21209372

>>21209256
What are the effects of a permanently chlorine sated atmosphere?
would the sky still be the same color?

>> No.21209378

>>21209365
It's a good disinfectant. Kills anything not resistant to it.

>super bugs and bacteria

NOPE

>> No.21209391

>>21209372
That is way beyond me.

>> No.21209404

>>21209372
I think we're over thinking it.

We can just assume that the enough chlorine was in the comet to make the seas a swimming pool and there's some storming sometimes.

>> No.21209427

>>21209378
They're savages so their medical knowledge is probably not to good anyway
I am seeing a short lifespan for these creatures

>> No.21209428

>>21209404
Under the current plan we also need enough for it to make the air unbreathable for humans.

>> No.21209434

>>21209347
Well, without sufficient oxygen it's hard to be very active. Oxygen, food and water are all critical for creating energy for biological processes. Try running around while holding your breath. (actually don't, you might pass out).

This is why I'd go for some stored oxygen biological faculty.

>> No.21209458

>>21209434
How completely bullshit would it be to just say that the kemonomimi breathe chlorine?

>> No.21209491

>>21209458
Chlorine is a greenish, yellowish gas.

Enjoy your haze over paradise.

>> No.21209494

>>21209378
Bu-but SCIENCE.

>>21209458
Well, why though?

>> No.21209496

>>21209458
Pretty bullshit. They'd need silicon lungs or something. This is pretty Star Trek level scifi.

I'd just say they're resistant to the stuff. They're not immune but they can deal with a level that the earless couldn't.

>> No.21209502

>>21209404
The ocean's pretty big

>> No.21209528

>>21209494
Haven't we set it so that the reason humanity died off was that the air was full of chlorine?

>>21209496
That works.

>> No.21209530

Could just say that the chlorine level was much higher when it killed off most of humanity, but has since dropped to levels more tolerable for the kemonomimi.

>> No.21209536

>>21209528
Of course, but that doesn't mean they actually use it as a breathing gas.

>> No.21209542

>>21209530
Worked for fallout

>> No.21209545

>>21209530
It's hundreds of years, so that works.

Could even be an interesting element to watch for in unbreached areas.

MASKS ON, EYES OPEN

>> No.21209561

>>21209530
Doesn't explain how they survived while the levels were high. Unless we decide that they popped out later, but that's not the case so far.

>> No.21209572

>>21209530
Wouldn't they still have needed to be resistant enough to it back when it did kill off humanity since that's when they were created?

>> No.21209616

>>21209561
Underground labs etc where they were made.

Chlorine is pretty reactive, as mentioned before and I suspect wouldn't hang around in huge amounts of raw stuff forever.

>> No.21209617

>>21209572
>>21209530

If bacteria can evolve to survive it, why not Kemos?

They could have stories of dark days when the skies turned yellow-green and people's eyes and throats would burn like fire.

Could just be presented as stories and myths.

>> No.21209654

>>21209616
Why would people make underground shelters capable of sustaining kemonomimi until chlorine levels decreased rather than for themselves?
Why can't we just say that the kemonomimi can handle the chlorine but people couldn't?

>> No.21209657

>>21209572
I thought the Kemos weren't created until /after/ most of humanity was already dead? The worst of it would've been over by the time the scientists actually suceeded in creating them.

>> No.21209701

http://1d4chan.org/wiki/CATastrophe
Okay, got a paragraph down for the premise. You can fix what I fucked up or yell at me and I'll do it.

>> No.21209718

>>21209657
Yes, but that's probably on a scale of months or years rather than centuries.

>> No.21209727

>>21209654
They were created in the shelters so that something intelligent would yet survive. They worked with what they had - already existing, easily modified, commercial artificial life forms.

I'd say it's because chlorine levels won't be low enough to sustain the Earless for thousands of years yet - they all died of old age still in the bunkers.

I'm going for "convincing provided you don't think too hard" here

>> No.21209753

Okay guys, what if the meteor that hit the north pole went into the water and dissolved quickly, but the one that hit the south pole remained on land and basically makes chlorine gas when it gets wet, like a chlorine tablet caught in the rain? Then the water would get super chlorinated fairly quickly, and the air would get fairly chlorinated and stay that way for a long time.

>> No.21209789

>>21209727
So then if it would take that long for the environment to become suitable for the kemonomimi, it would theoretically take far longer for it to become suitable for people and they couldn't make an underground shelter that would sustain them for that long?

>> No.21209830

>>21209789
What if genetics was literally mostly mechanical?

The Earless Ones could have like 1 month before acute chlorine poisoning took their lives.

So they punch in a bunch of stuff in the GENE-O-MAX SPLICER 5000 and left it alone to cook for a hundred years.

About that time, the Kemo wake up in tubes and make it out. Another 100 years and nobody even remembers past some vauge myths.

>> No.21209858

>>21209830
That's certainly a possible solution. It would make humanity much more mysterious to the kemonomimi, as well. Add some mystery to the whole thing and give them another motivation for looting human ruins.

>> No.21209883

>>21209789
Yeah, say it's an exponential decay curve, at least for now. Say the amount halves every 10 or 20 years. Levels fell quickly enough for resistant creatures, but the long tail of the graph means that it'll be a long time before things return to normal, if ever.

Chlorine is heavy and hugs the ground, where it's not too windy. Birds survived high up and flew to safety in the mountains, along with other stuff on high ground. Anything that couldn't escape the chlorine clouds slowly choked. Most of the life still around was also engineered in some way.

The skywhales? Nobody knows. Maybe they came with the asteroids.

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>>21209015

What's the story with aircraft? Microlights for personal transport? Airships for commercial transport (assuming that a flooded world means no runways)? City-fleets in the sky?

>> No.21209914

>>21209883
I like this idea. I like it a lot.

>> No.21209917
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21209917

Float planes are cool.

>> No.21209930

>>21209888

Seaplanes or Seacopters would probably be common to guild or affluent divers.

Blimps are often used by the real life navy to patrol coastal segements. Can you imagine a BBEG using a carrier blimp as an HQ you have in infiltrate, all the while the more harebrained Kemos panic about it being filled with nonflammable Helium...

YOU'LL KILL US ALL, IT'S FILLED WITH POTASSIUM

Heliu-

SODIUM

HELIUM! NON FLAMMABLE HELIUM!

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>>21209888
No liquid fuel means aircraft are going to be tough.

Maybe battery assisted gliders with long thin wings?

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21209969

>>21209957
Or the occasional old plane found that runs on water?

>> No.21209976

>>21209957
Blimps with solar panels might fit the deal if buoyant gasses are readily available.

I still think flight would be more of a high level/high prestige thing. An aircraft flying by would make an entire village turn their head and come out to see it.

>> No.21210018

I think we should consolidate the wiki and move to a new thread. This is starting to need new blood, stat.

>> No.21210083

>>21210018
I've been working on the wiki. I need to GM a PTA session soon though, so I'll have to take a break. I'll resume working on the wiki and rejoin the thread/make a new one when I'm done.

>> No.21210098

>>21210083
I'll set up the new thread then.

>> No.21210125

>>21210098
Link it here when you do, please.

>> No.21210168

>>21210163
New thread.

>> No.21210452

>>21209572
How about they are MORE resistant to it, but don't breathe the stuff?

How about humanity managed to SCIENCE! chlorine levels somewhat down to more manageable levels, but it was still hard for humans to survive, not to mention most of humanity was dead by that point?

How about between the few left over projects humanity let run their course like the kemos and some sort of organic air scrubber alongside life's natural tendency to find a way and adapt has caused things to exist in such a way where we don't need bullshit like silicon lungs to explain catgirls?

>> No.21210559

>>21210452
Yeah I was already going with the idea that they just weren't poisoned by it rather than actually using it for any biological processes.

>> No.21210584

>>21210452
also this discussion should probably be moved to the new thread.

>> No.21210601

>>21210584
I noticed.

>> No.21211054

Anon who suggested all of the Algae is dead here.

Glad to see that /tg/ is getting shit done!

>> No.21211132

>>21208956
humans are all dead (as far as the catgirls know) and they took their biotech with them

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