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[ERROR] No.19139278 [Reply] [Original] [4plebs] [archived.moe]

>finish reading this book
>enjoyed it
>get to the "acknowledgements" page

"with sincerest thanks to Heresy-Online, the bolthole, daka daka, the greatcrusade.co.uk, the elegan/tg/entlemen,the unexpectedly polite warseer, and the mighty bolter and chainsword"

>the elegan/tg/entlemen
>/tg/

You smarmy bastards, how'd you guys get involved in this?

>> No.19139293

>The Bolthole

What a horrible choice of name

>> No.19139295

I have no clue. Nice to know that someone at BL cares though.

>> No.19139311

Guess some of the BL writers come to /tg/?

>> No.19139326

Dude, ADB is one of the biggest fa/tg/uys. He does Q&A sessions here sometimes.

>> No.19139344

>>19139311

Now I have this wonderful mental image of Goto opening up /tg/ and then curling up in a ball under his desk and crying himself to sleep.

>> No.19139349

that's fucking awesome.

>> No.19139372

Reading Voidstalker atm, gotta say, I'm totally loving it.

>> No.19139379

OP here. so most of you didn't know about this?

then that's pretty fuckin nice of him to mention us then

>> No.19139388

Hah!

He's not one of us 'till he writes a novel about the Flesh Helms.

>> No.19139392

Well he didnt call us fa/tguys, neckbeards thats nice :D

>> No.19139394

>>19139372
is that before or after blood reaver?

Because i've read Blood Reaver, but I suppose that Soul reaver is first and Void Stalker third

>> No.19139395

>>19139379
The only 40k novels I read so far are the wordbearer trillogy, though I aim to read more.

>> No.19139401

>>19139344
Goto is god tier compared to ward shit.

>> No.19139415

>>19139394
Void Stalker is the third and last, yes.

>> No.19139426

>>19139388
How about an angry marines novel?

>> No.19139441

>elegan/tg/entlemen
>not corpulen/tg/rotesques

BOOOOWWWWDEEEEEEENNNNNN

>> No.19139444

>>19139401
Haha

Ha

Haha

Haaaaaaaa

>> No.19139451

>>19139401
Ward > all others

>> No.19139492

>>19139441
>not sno/tg/oobers

>>19139379
there's usually a thread on it whenever a book by him comes out. I think most of his have that mention, but it's been a while since I've looked at the books..

>> No.19139497

I've read The Soul Drinkers, The Space Wolves Omnibus, and some short stories.

Best Games Workshop book I've read wasn't 40k, it was The Enemy Within. It's a Fantasy book where a windmage investigates a Tzeentchian cult. Richard Byers dealth with chaos very well. It's the only one of those books I'd recommend to anyone. The rest are just SM fighting stuff.

>> No.19139499

Would you guys suggest Blood Reaver and Void Stalker if I liked Soul Hunter and Lord of the Night?

>> No.19139507

>>19139444
Enjoy your baby carrier,1000 man strong grey knights i a fuckin huge galaxy ,sister bashing,spiritual lige

Tomb kings who arent a real threat to imperium anymore,retard necorn lords saying move a fuckin planet wide civilazation in 40 days without any trace of your excistence left and go away.

And goto has multilasers on a land raider.

I can continue this all night.

Have at thee knave.

>> No.19139529

>>19139372
void stalker is out?

brb barnes and noble

>> No.19139535

>>19139507
Pfff, they're both smalltime. Abnett has a stormtrooper carrying an Assault Cannon.

>> No.19139550

>>19139507
>Enjoy your baby carrier

Nothing wrong with that.

>1000 man strong grey knights i a fuckin huge galaxy

Always the case.

>sister bashing

Awww, da widdle sistews got huuurt? Grow up.

>spiritual lige

No problem there either.

>Tomb kings who arent a real threat to imperium anymore

They're a larger threat than they've ever been before.

>retard necorn lords saying move a fuckin planet wide civilazation in 40 days without any trace of your excistence left and go away

Not retarded, just unreasonable. Which is fine.

>And goto has multilasers on a land raider.

And maybe Eldar kidneys, pools of ocean, muscle mines, sticks and stones will break your grav tank...

>I can continue this all night.

I can't, but I can stick around for a little while.

>> No.19139574

>>19139497

Fantasy novels i read are gotrek&felix and ulrika the vampire series and malus darkblade.

Gotrek&felix is well, standart d&d heroes kinda they do all kinds of shit and always survive, but they are good for light reading.
For malus darkblade, i kinda liked the first omnibus it had a very interesting approach to dark elf society and abnett really showed how cruel our hero can be. At the second omnibus well he got kinda softer no more torture and rape things , no backstabbing still not bad.

Ulrika is from gotrek&felix series, aa side char who got turned to vampire and got her own book series.
From what i read it is not bad at all. nathan long really did a good job at presenting us a female protogonist realistically.

As for 40k, fist 4 horus heresy books are god tier, i dont know about dark angels becouse they dont interest me. Thousand sons was really really good i would recommend it.

Generally imperial guard books are well written,if you see guard go buy them.

Marine books-well it knida depends on the author i think, ultras were nto bad, i heard woves were pretty good blood angels was, meh.
And dont get me started on space marine battles they are shit tier.

>> No.19139618

>>19139278
Simple, OP. He came on a while back and had an impromptu Q&A session, and during it said he'd throw that in there for us. Hell, it's on the archive if you want to read it for yourself.

And since I know you're reading this, ADB...shine on, you crazy diamond.

>> No.19139800

>>19139550
>Enjoy your baby carrier

>Nothing wrong with that.

Ah i see there is absolutely nothing wrong with a vehicle desing that offers no protection to user whatsoever,and if they get even more retarted by no wearing helmets(which they usually do) a single sniper rifle(not saying lasguns becouse there will be hurr lazgun iz weak marine head strong argument)
can take down an entire walker.


>1000 man strong grey knights i a fuckin huge galaxy

>Always the case.

Why make it more retarted?atleast we can say that well a single chapter is 1000 strong that is a foolish number but there can be lots of successor chapters divided across the galaxy.
And now the idiot is saying us that only relaible force against daemons that is uncorruptable and is needed everytime a major daemonic incursion appears must be limited to 1000 man for the whole galaxy?
That is pants on head retarted

>sister bashing

>Awww, da widdle sistews got huuurt? Grow up.

Look,i dont like sisters at all,i personally think they are bunch of zealots with no sense of strategy at all
But they are the emperors servants.
And ward says that uncorruptable grey knights neeed the blood of sisters to protect themselves from corruption? wtf khorenate shit is this?

>Tomb kings who arent a real threat to imperium anymore

>They're a larger threat than they've ever been before.

How so? with no ways of warp travel and now they are divided with every tomb world pursuing its own agenda?

>retard necorn lords saying move a fuckin planet wide civilazation in 40 days without any trace of your excistence left and go away

>Not retarded, just unreasonable. Which is fine.

And the reason for this much of rage is becouse retconing.
First you say this is water to people for years than suddenly you turn and say, what? what water it was wine all along? why would you think like that?
ps:also tehy are retarded :D

>> No.19139870

Oops forgot this.>>19139800

>> No.19139939

>Ah i see there is absolutely nothing wrong with a vehicle desing that offers no protection to user whatsoever,and if they get even more retarted by no wearing helmets(which they usually do) a single sniper rifle(not saying lasguns becouse there will be hurr lazgun iz weak marine head strong argument)
can take down an entire walker.
THERE REALLY ISN'T, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH 40K AS FUCK.

>but there can be lots of successor chapters divided across the galaxy.
EXCEPT THERE WEREN'T. EVER. GREY KNIGHTS WERE ALWAYS A SINGLE CHAPTER OF 1,000 MARINES, ALWAYS.

>How so? with no ways of warp travel and now they are divided with every tomb world pursuing its own agenda?
THEY NEVER HAD ANY METHODS OF "WARP" TRAVEL, AND THEY STILL POSSESS MEANS OF FASTER-THAN-LIGHT TRAVEL SO NOTHING'S CHANGED ON THAT FRONT.

YOU COULD AT LEAST COMPLAIN ABOUT THINGS THAT HAVE ACTUALLY CHANGED, LIKE THE BLOODTIDE (WHICH I DON'T REALLY CARE ABOUT EITHER WAY)

>> No.19140030

>>19139939
>Ah i see there is absolutely nothing wrong with a vehicle desing that offers no protection to user whatsoever,and if they get even more retarted by no wearing helmets(which they usually do) a single sniper rifle(not saying lasguns becouse there will be hurr lazgun iz weak marine head strong argument)
can take down an entire walker.
THERE REALLY ISN'T, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH 40K AS FUCK.

>but there can be lots of successor chapters divided across the galaxy.
EXCEPT THERE WEREN'T. EVER. GREY KNIGHTS WERE ALWAYS A SINGLE CHAPTER OF 1,000 MARINES, ALWAYS.

So you must be the all caps guy of tg
The number of grey knights were vauge at best before the 5th grey knights codex.There wasnt anything like they are 1000 strong etc.
Now there is.

as for marines here take a look.
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Loyal_Space_Marine_Chapters_%28List%29#.T7V9FVKSMng
Count how many are there and x with 1000, oh but dont forget chapters like wolves templars and many manyo thers dont even wipe their asses with girlymans codecks astatres so they will have lot more marines and scouts.

>> No.19140045

>>19139800
>Ah i see there is absolutely nothing wrong with a vehicle desing that offers no protection to user whatsoever

Terminator armour, and a force field.

>and if they get even more retarted by no wearing helmets(which they usually do) a single sniper rifle(not saying lasguns becouse there will be hurr lazgun iz weak marine head strong argument)
can take down an entire walker.

No helmets is a stylistic thing, you can still give them all the helmets you want.

>Why make it more retarted?

He didn't. It's equally retarded as it has always been.

>atleast we can say that well a single chapter is 1000 strong that is a foolish number but there can be lots of successor chapters divided across the galaxy.

Successors are not the same thing as their parent chapter.

>And now the idiot is saying us that only relaible force against daemons that is uncorruptable and is needed everytime a major daemonic incursion appears must be limited to 1000 man for the whole galaxy?

They're not the only ones, other forces can fight daemons, even if they risk corruption. You've also got to judge how rare massive daemonic incursions are in the Imperium.

>That is pants on head retarted

No more than it ever was before.

>But they are the emperors servants.

As are the Guard nthat get killed, the Marines that get mindwiped and the civillians that get sacrificed to sanctify the Grey Knight's bolts.

>And ward says that uncorruptable grey knights neeed the blood of sisters to protect themselves from corruption?

They've proven incorruptible so far, that does not mean that will always prove the case, so they take extra precautions.

>wtf khorenate shit is this?

Pro-tip; Khorne does not have a monopoly on blood, and he hates sorcery. So it's actually pretty anti-khornate.

>> No.19140053

>>19139800
>How so?

Read about all the shit they can do, about all the worlds they have conquered and the fact that they out number the Imperium. Old Necrons failed every time they showed up.

>with no ways of warp travel

They've got the webway, the same Eldar use and what the Emperor wanted to use.

>now they are divided with every tomb world pursuing its own agenda?

Every agenda goes towards restoring the Empire. Old Necrons had divisions amongst the C'tan.

>And the reason for this much of rage is becouse retconing.

I'm saying the Necron lord is being unreasonable. Not like the old Necron stuff didn't do it's fair share of retconning either.

>First you say this is water to people for years than suddenly you turn and say, what? what water it was wine all along? why would you think like that?
>ps:also tehy are retarded :D

It's more like they decided they didn't like horseshit and so transmogrified it into into something not so shitty.

>> No.19140091

>>19139800
>How so?
Tangible results. The previous Necron fluff implied they were going to be this great, galaxy-ending plague upon the living, but they never seemed to do much beyond short (but albeit destructive) raids and isolated invasions. The Newcron fluff is less...apocalyptic, perhaps, but they're actually achieving things now. Imotek having carved out a pretty large empire, for example.

>with no ways of warp travel
Yea, so they use portions of the Webway instead. It's never really hindered the Eldar at all, so I doubt it's much of a penalty for the Necrons.

>> No.19140093

>>19140030
>There wasnt anything like they are 1000 strong etc.

They were always a chapter, and since their numbers were never commented on, you should have automatically gone to 1000. If they diverged in that respect it would have been said.

Count how many are there and x with 1000, oh but dont forget chapters like wolves templars and many manyo thers dont even wipe their asses with girlymans codecks astatres so they will have lot more marines and scouts.

So?

>> No.19140118

>>19140091
>Yea, so they use portions of the Webway instead. It's never really hindered the Eldar at all, so I doubt it's much of a penalty for the Necrons.
Actually it's still canon they use inertialess FTL.

>> No.19140140

>>19140118
Not in the Newcron codex, where they're said to be doomed to isolation without the webway.

>> No.19140154

>>19140118
Insomuch as everything ever mentioned in 40k's fluff is technically canon, unless I missed something in the Necron codex? There's the bit about the Tomb World automatically slinging ships out to random destinations, but I don't remember if it specified the method by which it does so.

>> No.19140161

>>19140140
No, it says they got access to the Webway from one of the C'tan.

How exactly do you fight an intergalactic war without any way of using FTL?

>> No.19140183

>>19140161
Enjoy your thousand years from travelling from one system from another.

>> No.19140213

>>19140183
Cause that's how the Warp works too right.

Also not like the Necron finished science right?

Holy fuck you're so fucking dumb I should filter you for saying that.

>> No.19140224

>>19140161
>No, it says they got access to the Webway from one of the C'tan.

And that they'd be doomed to isolation without the gates.

>How exactly do you fight an intergalactic war without any way of using FTL?

Well even FTL doesn't have to be very fast on a galactic scale, but veeery slowly. The reason the Old Ones beat them in the first place was because of their insane manoeuvrability.

>> No.19140246

>>19140213
>Not filtering all tripfags anyway
>2011+1

I SCOOBY DOOBY DOO

>> No.19140301

>>19140093

>How so?
Tangible results. The previous Necron fluff implied they were going to be this great, galaxy-ending plague upon the living, but they never seemed to do much beyond short (but albeit destructive) raids and isolated invasions. The Newcron fluff is less...apocalyptic, perhaps, but they're actually achieving things now. Imotek having carved out a pretty large empire, for example.
>with no ways of warp travel
Yea, so they use portions of the Webway instead. It's never really hindered the Eldar at all, so I doubt it's much of a penalty for the Necrons.

Assuming that ctan carved a whole network of stable paths along every system in the galaxy,if not they are still a local threat that is isolated from their other brethren(now they have honor and communicate and even co-operate with humans pff)
Oh as for the tangible results milady the old necrons had their codex adn thats just it, there wasnt really any major necron threats mentioned in black library books, not even fw imperial armour books.They were jsut oh noes necrons are here, lets get out of here and glass the planet.
planet glassed day is saved.

And i for one dont think they will be using the newcrons in the books from now on.When asked about why he didnt use dreadknight aaron backhanded them and said,i dont think it fits the general feel of 40k.

The reasonable bl writers wont use either the new grey knights nor the newcrons.

>> No.19140319

>>19140091

Oops wrong quote.this one is the right one.

>> No.19140336

You can totally tell Ward wrote that part about the Webway to dick with everyone.

He doesn't even say sub light speed, he just says slow in comparison to the Webway.

Using direct Warp fleet is slower than the Webway.

However Battlefleed Gothic says their ships do infact have FTL, so it is possible they have both.

>> No.19140360

Oh and how can we forget the part when kaldor dragio carved the previous grandmasters name to the hearth of mortarion.

Seriously try and defend this.
WTF IS THIS SHIT?

>> No.19140362

>>19140336
The BFG fluff predates the retcon. Previously, the Necrons possessed FTL travel (and may have been the only ones to do so), but now they use parts of the Webway.

>> No.19140373

>>19140301
>Assuming that ctan carved a whole network of stable paths along every system in the galaxy,if not they are still a local threat that is isolated from their other brethren

They don't need a link to every system in the galaxy. Lord knows nobody else does.

>now they have honor and communicate and even co-operate with humans pff

Honor might be kind of new, but it is a rare commodity. They've been able to communicate with humans since xenology at least.

>Oh as for the tangible results milady the old necrons had their codex adn thats just it,

They got spanked in Damnation Crusade and Nightbringer.

> there wasnt really any major necron threats mentioned in black library books, not even fw imperial armour books.They were jsut oh noes necrons are here, lets get out of here and glass the planet.

Yup, they never accomplished anything.

>And i for one dont think they will be using the newcrons in the books from now on.

They've already turned in in Black Crusade as well as Fall of Damnos.

>When asked about why he didnt use dreadknight aaron backhanded them and said,i dont think it fits the general feel of 40k.

He's entitled to his opinion.

>The reasonable bl writers wont use either the new grey knights nor the newcrons.

Maybe. Maybe not.

>> No.19140387

>>19140360
The best daemon hunter defeated a daemon.
There's nothing to defend.

>> No.19140388

>>19140362
>I can't read the argument going on in the thread.

They aren't retconned per say, all the new codex says is they have stasis ships going at slower speeds than the Webway.

Still possible that they have FTL and don't travel through the Warp.

Hell the world engine is proof enough that they possess the tech to make FTL, along with labyrinth pocket dimensions and warpless teleportation.

>> No.19140424

Copy-pasted my response from another board

I figured the way it worked was that it took them a long time to get somewhere the first time, using ships, but that once they were there, they now had a two-way portal to instantaneously transport back and forth. In this way they had excellent transportation within an area they already claimed. However, during the fight with the eldar, they didn't have the luxury of time for a slow-moving ship to travel into enemy space in order to set up a stable supply line. So instead, they hijacked the enemies method, which was faster and didn't require them to have gotten to a location the long way first.

Now in M41, with their old portal method probably in ruins (or at least in need of serious repair) their choices are either to start over with torch ships, setting up new portals, or go back to hijacking the webway like they did during the war.

>> No.19140433

>>19140301
>they are still a local threat

The webway is huge. At its height, it covered pretty much the entire galaxy. The C'tan won't have needed to build new extensions onto it - even nowadays, with large chunks of the webway damaged or over-run by hostile entities, controlling a portion of it grants the Necrons a hell of a lot of manuverability. Even if their ships can't travel FTL, they'll still be able to cruise between planets or systems and remain a threat. Tyranids can't use FTL travel within a system, having to travel the last lightyear or two under their own power, and no-one says they are a 'local threat'.

>the old necrons had their codex adn thats just it

No, they popped up now and then. There was Nightbringer, one of the comics (don't know the name, it had Black Templars, I think), and a couple of the Caiphus Cain books. And you know what? They pretty much always lost. Necrons started actually being presented as really capable opponents in newer books, which regardless of prose quality, show signs they were being drawn from the work in progress Newcron fluff.

>> No.19140454

>>19140387

Really? Mortarion a daemon primarch powered by the nurgle.
Sits there still and allows one guy to climb up there ,open the chestplate, bring out the trusted hobby knife and carve a name in the damn hearth.

Ofcourse there really is nothing to defend here.
Just some guys uber kewl story when he is high.
-dude you know what would be awsome
-what man?
dude due lsiten there tehere is this grey knight you lsitenin-yeah
and and there is a daemon, no wait not jsut a daemon but lsiten lsiten , oh man mortarion
YEAHHH
Listen , he pulls the fuckin knife and and CARVES A NAEME ON HIS HEARTH UH YEAH
-SUPER COOL MAN YOU SHOULD WRITE THIS SHIT UP !
-YEAH

This is how it went i think between ward and his best buddy.

>> No.19140456

>>19139507
>retard necorn lords saying move a fuckin planet wide civilazation in 40 days without any trace of your excistence left and go away.
You do know that Biel-tan gave a century old colony a DAY to vacate a maiden world?
Then killed them all to the man when they told them it was fundamentally impossible?

>> No.19140465

Fuck you all saying they don't have FTL, you're all wrong.

Newcron codex even says they do.

Proof in pic, you can all deal with it.

>> No.19140487

>>19140388
Well, in the previous codex it mentions the existance of FTL that doesn't require the Webway, and makes a separate reference to how the Necrontyr previously had to rely on stasis ships that traveled from star to star the long way.

The new codex mentions that the Necrons have access to the Webway, and also mentions the slow-moving stasis ships, but makes no mention whatsoever that they still have the inertialess drives in their new codex treatment.

>> No.19140490

>>19140454
>Really? Mortarion a daemon primarch powered by the nurgle.

That's the one.

>Sits there still and allows one guy to climb up there ,open the chestplate, bring out the trusted hobby knife and carve a name in the damn hearth.

Draigo messed him up a bit first, and probably used his fucking anti-daemon sword to do the carving.

>This is how it went i think between ward and his best buddy.

I think you're just buttmad.

>> No.19140516

>>19140465
So...the Necrons can transport troops from Point A to Point B, so long as they have something with a portal already at both points.

So, how do they get the portal to Point B?

>> No.19140527

>>19140454
>Mortarion a daemon primarch powered by the nurgle.

Okay, while I agree that the whole 'carved his name on Mortarion's heard' thing is pretty stupid, I've got the sudden urge to try and defend it. Devil's (Ward's?) advocate time.

As powerful as the Daemon Primarchs are, they're still Daemons. They need a conduit to the warp to remain able to manifest physically. Without one, they'll eventually fade out of existence. The more powerful the Daemon, the more energy it needs to remain corporeal. During the first Armageddon war, Angron had to halt his invasion for several months while his servants built a huge monolith to channel the warp energy he needed to hold onto a physical form.

If Mortarion was caught in a situation where the phenomenal amount of warp power needed to prolong his manifestation was starting to wane, it's not inconceivable that he would be weakened enough that something like that is possible. It's also worth pointing out that it's not the first time a mortal has taken down one of the Daemon Primarchs - when the Thousand Sons attacked Fenris, Magnus the Red led them personally, but was taken down by a particularly powerful Space Wolf.

>> No.19140532

>>19140516
Make a wormhole.

Wormholes don't require anything to work. All that says is that they have a captured one that moves with the ship instead of being fixed.

They can make Wormholes and control them.

>> No.19140542

>>19140527
>heard

Er, heart, rather. Must proofread better.

>> No.19140557

>>19140516
Before the War in Heaven, Torch Ships.

Non-webway FTL that's not as fast as warp travel but a hell of a lot more reliable.

>> No.19140565

At first glance, I was sure the book said Blood Beaver.

Anyway, that's pretty cool.

>> No.19140581

>>19140532
They can make worm holes, but they still have to move one end of the wormhole into position.

>> No.19140587

>>19140532
How is this different than the gate in the monolith? Or the torch ships?

>> No.19140590

>thread about ADB
>derailed by the Ward Hate Brigade
>another thread ruined
Fuck you guys.

>> No.19140607

>>19140590
Okay. Anyone read the Emperor's Gift yet? Is it worth picking up?

>> No.19140623

>>19140581
Except that's not how wormholes work. They always have an end point.

The hard part isn't making a wormhole, it's moving the entrance. It's a hole in spacetime created by bending space and making it one point.

There is no difference in the distant when it comes to wormholes.

>> No.19140637

>Tachyon Arrow

They can make FTL particles even.

>> No.19140645

>>19140607
I bought it but I have yet to read it.
it did have Dan abnet's seal of approval though, so I'm not ashamed to admit thats the only reason I think it'll be good

>> No.19140656

>>19140607
Eagerly waiting on my copy. Early buzz is that it's quite good.

>> No.19140658

>>19140623
>Except that's not how wormholes work. They always have an end point.

Yes.

>The hard part isn't making a wormhole, it's moving the entrance. It's a hole in spacetime created by bending space and making it one point.

And they have to fly the entrance to where they want it, or else they wouldn't bother with Nightscythes. As it stands they must create a worm hole with both ends relatively close together, slap one on a ship and fly off to where they want to connect to.

>There is no difference in the distant when it comes to wormholes.

But for the ships moving an end of the wormhole...

>> No.19140660

>>19140433

>they are still a local threat

>The webway is huge. At its height, it covered .....

Tyranids are an endless mass of destruction,there are just so many of them that they can afford not to be mobile,i didnt read the whole newcron codex but the parts i read led me to believe newcrons could use that parts of webway thanks to ctans forcing their way through immaterium.
Now without ctans how are they managing to do that?
oh and btw like the eldar empire most webway paths are failing you know that dont you?


>the old necrons had their codex adn thats just it

>No, they popped up now and then. There was Nightbringer, one of the comics (don't know the name, it had Black Templars, I think),...

Damnation crusade i think, but i dont remember tehre were necrons there nevermind.
As for the nightbringer, yes it was in the ultramarines novel by mc neill.There was a whole book about it now what shall we do with it? Now ctans are no more,no void dragon in mars no nightbringer out from its grave stealing the power of the suns and getting powerfull with each year.
Just some fake copies of ctans used on the whims of newcron lords.
At cain novels they were silent death machines,sure they had thier own agendas(shadowlight for example) but there wasnt absurd necron delegations,sending love messages to planetary governors etc.

Well atleast you know how to debate in a civil way milady unlike most scum who go around
MARINES UBER,DRAGIO PAWNZ

>> No.19140680

>>19140030
>So you must be the all caps guy of tg
Oh boy, you're new here. I guess we could tell that since you have a name and no reason to wear one. Look kid, if you don't know shit, don't say shit.

>> No.19140685

>>19140527
It's worth noting that the name given to a Grey Knight upon the completion of his training is actually mystically significant, and designed to oppose the true name of a certain daemon. After the aforementioned carving, Mortarion was unable to return to the material realm for several years. So either the "Geronitan" is the opposite of whatever Mortarion's daemon name is, or it's simply powerful enough to affect him regardless.

And hey, at least Mortarion's now got a Supreme Grand Master kill to his name. His true name, even. Ha ha. I'm hilarious.

>> No.19140703

>>19140685
*ba-dum tish*

>> No.19140706

>>19140658
The whole purpose of the captured part of a captured wormhole means you can move said wormhole.

Other wise the wormhole stays in the place you made it.

So they could just tear open a portal in spacetime, and leave it there and come flying out of it.

Or they could use their tachyon based weapons and replace the piece of metal with a ship.

Considering they are super computer and can do millions of battles in nanonseconds as stated in the codex, it would make more sense for them to do either of these than jump through a damaged and possibly closing webway, as webways don't work well with ships.

>> No.19140721

>>19140685
>the "Geronitan"
Disregard the 'the'. Receive puritydiaper.

>> No.19140725

what.

ADB is a probably one of my most hated BL authors. He really cant write 40k fiction.

I wish he would go write for some other setting yet in all his books i cannot think of a single setting that he would be any good at writing.

>> No.19140727

>>19140590

Actually, it's pretty much just a single namefag. There's been a lot less Ward hate around since the Newcron codex.

>> No.19140728

>>19140607
At least you tried anon.

>> No.19140733

>>19140706
Yet they still use the Webway.

>> No.19140736

>>19140685

Wait, when does Mortarion go to the material realm anyway? Isn't Angron the only Primarch who's done shit in the past ~9000 years, since Magnus attacked Fenris?

>> No.19140748

>>19140733
True, because bad writing.

Also it leads right to the enemy base without having to find them.

>> No.19140756

>>19140725
>not liking ADB
Who DO you like then?

>> No.19140761

>>19140660
>Now without ctans how are they managing to do that?

C'tan taught them how to get into the webway, they don't have to force themselves through anything.

>oh and btw like the eldar empire most webway paths are failing you know that dont you?

Lots of the webway fell into disrepair, but there is still more than enough.

>Damnation crusade i think, but i dont remember tehre were necrons there nevermind.

The got raped off panel, probably didn't leave much of an impression.

>As for the nightbringer, yes it was in the ultramarines novel by mc neill.There was a whole book about it now what shall we do with it?

Assume it was a shard of the Nightbringer.

>Just some fake copies of ctans used on the whims of newcron lords.

Good, the C'tan were pretty pathetic as they were.

>At cain novels they were silent death machines,sure they had thier own agendas(shadowlight for example) but there wasnt absurd necron delegations,sending love messages to planetary governors etc.

They were also much weaker.

>Well atleast you know how to debate in a civil way milady unlike most scum who go around
>scum

How very civil.

>MARINES UBER,DRAGIO PAWNZ

Rectal ravaged.

>> No.19140769

>>19140725
I'll be honest. You are the first person I've encountered who just flat-out doesn't like his books.

Out of curiosity: what in particular do you not like?

>> No.19140775

>>19140725
ADB, stop trolling your own threads and get back to writing that next Horus Heresy book of yours.

>> No.19140822

>>19140706
>The whole purpose of the captured part of a captured wormhole means you can move said wormhole.

I agree with that. But because you have to move the wormhole over vast distances you need a method to get it their quickly in the first place.

>So they could just tear open a portal in spacetime, and leave it there and come flying out of it.

But they need to get 'there' in the first place.

>So they could just tear open a portal in spacetime, and leave it there and come flying out of it.

If it can work on that scale, and dependant on it's top speed.

>Considering they are super computer and can do millions of battles in nanonseconds as stated in the codex, it would make more sense for them to do either of these than jump through a damaged and possibly closing webway, as webways don't work well with ships.

Webwat works fine with ships.

>> No.19140826

>>19140775
You mean the Abaddon book. Because I can't wait to see /tg/'s reaction when their favourite BL author portrays Abaddaba as something other than - to quote the man himself - "an armless fucknut fuelled by failure".

>> No.19140829

>>19140725
>>19140775
Alternately, put your name on and banish the ward-hate bandwagon through introduction of something more interesting to talk about.

>> No.19140838

Out of curiosity, when ADB did a Q&A, was /tg/ asking him questions or was he asking /tg/ questions? Because I know form most BL authors the latter case is how it should work.

>> No.19140841

>>19140826
True, but I doubt he's been lobbying to write this series for so long just so he can take a 400 page shit on it.

>> No.19140843

>>19140756
>>19140769
>>19140775
My favourites are probably Dan Abnett and Graham McNeil.

Though Mcneils recent "insert 4th company or any ultramarine into any story i write" is getting old fast.

What i didnt like about ADB is that he seams to just gloss over alot of details and ignore alot of pre-established 40k cannon. Theyre okay books and stories, but they lose the 40k name pretty easily.

>> No.19140848

>>19140565

Same here.

>captcha: andscilk WINNER!!

>> No.19140857

>>19140822
>But they need to get 'there' in the first place.

You're not getting it.

That part is completely useless as when you make a wormhole you have to choose the beginning and ending points. You don't need to be there to make them though.

I could make one to the center of the galaxy and alpha centari without leaving Earth. All about spacetime bending man.

>> No.19140864

>>19140843
Well seeing as a lot of his 40k books are about the Heresy or chaos legions with little background it's sort of hard to not "ignore" fluff. Can you give us an example?

>> No.19140866

>>19140857
Apparently, they don't work that way in the Grimdark far future

>> No.19140877

>>19140866
Once again, the captured part lets them move the exit and ties it to the ship allowing them to pull troop straight to the ship instead of going to the wormhole and back.

>> No.19140880

>>19140527

>Mortarion a daemon primarch powered by the nurgle.

>Okay, while I agree that the whole 'carved his name on Mortarion's heard' thing is pretty stupid, I've got the sudden urge to try and defend it. Devil's (Ward's?) advocate time.

As powerful as the Daemon Primarchs are, they're still Daemons. They need a conduit to the warp to remain able to manifest physically. Without one, they'll eventually fade out of existence. The more powerful the Daemon, the more energy it needs to remain corporeal. During the first Armageddon war, Angron had to halt his invasion for several months while his servants built a huge monolith to channel the warp energy he needed to hold onto a physical form.

If Mortarion was caught in a situation where the phenomenal amount of warp power needed to prolong his manifestation was starting to wane, it's not inconceivable that he would be weakened enough that something like that is possible. It's also worth pointing out that it's not the first time a mortal has taken down one of the Daemon Primarchs - when the Thousand Sons attacked Fenris, Magnus the Red led them personally, but was taken down by a particularly powerful Space Wolf.

I dont have that much problem with a grandmaster greyknight banishing a daemon primarch .
(its not as foolish as that space marine battles novel where a marine beat an ork to death with his recently cut arm)
Hector rex banished a far greater daemon with a squad of grey knights in siege of vraks.

The whole carving name hurr thing just smells of a low brainer fantasy.Why the hell he couldnt leave it, and he banished mortarion and be done with it.
No becouse that wouldnt be cool enough,he had to do some ultra super duper dipshit move to look awsome.

>> No.19140900

>>19140864
soz most of my books hav emigrated to work. only got Outcast Dead, 1ksons, Thoseshitdarkangelsnovels and eisonhorn here.

on the other hand, Know no fear, or ravenor trillogy next? just finished The Outcast Dead (which was okay, but made earth feel less like a fortressworld that i wouldve thought itd be at this point)

>> No.19140910

>>19140857
>That part is completely useless as when you make a wormhole you have to choose the beginning and ending points.

Yes, but what if their choice is limited to left side of chamber 1 and right side of chamber 1? If they are on planet A and need to get one end of the wormhole to planet B to form a connection, then they need a method of reaching planet B that was not wormholes.

>I could make one to the center of the galaxy and alpha centari without leaving Earth.

Clearly they can't, or else they'd just do that, without the need of Nightscythes or the webway.

>> No.19140922

Apparently all the /tg/ trip-friends are in force today.

I just wanted to say that I noticed that as well and was very pleased by it op.

>> No.19140935

>>19140910
How do you know they haven't?

Absence of proof isn't proof of absence.

>> No.19140953

>>19140880
>Why the hell he couldnt leave it, and he banished mortarion and be done with it.

His Master just got killed, he was probably a bit mad and wanted to makes sure Mortarion remembered his defeat.

>No becouse that wouldnt be cool enough,he had to do some ultra super duper dipshit move to look awsome.

He could have made it much more by having Mortarion be banished as well, but he didn't, that was a failing on Draigo's part.

>> No.19140974

>>19140877
I understand that. The issue is that the ship/Monolith/nightscythe with the captive wormhole needs to reach the destination first, then it can transport things regardless of distance. So, how do the Necrons get the captive wormhole to the destination? Apparently, it's now via Webway travel.

>> No.19140983

>>19140935
>How do you know they haven't?

It says they would be doomed to isolation without the webway. Therefore it stands to reason that they can't open wormholes to anywhere they want and undoom themselves.

It would also render Nightscythes redundant if they could just open wormholes wherever and not need something to cart it around.

>> No.19140988

>>19140935
>Absence of proof isn't proof of absence.

But proof of an alternative already in place is damn good evidence of it

>> No.19141020

I've always wondered if Mat Ward has ever been to /tg/...

>> No.19141100

>>19141020
he has

>> No.19141133

>>19141100

What was the result!?

>> No.19141152

>>19141133
He hasn't. At least not publicly.

>> No.19141153

>>19141133
The Newcron Codex

>> No.19141163

>>19141153

:|

>> No.19141233

>>19141153
Except the newcron codex is [nospoilers] good [/ontg].

>> No.19141290

Well it is roughly 3 am where i live right now and my energy reserves are failing.
Good night eveyone

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTRQn-ijsrY

And remember, stay classy /tg.

>> No.19141342

>>19141020
Ward is TIDF.

>> No.19141356

>>19141342
Mind blown.

>> No.19141362

I read that first pic as BLOOD BEAVER and not BLOOD REAVER.

It didnt seem quite as serious at first.

>> No.19141652

>>19141362

That's the porn version.
ADB, you reading this?!

>> No.19144945

bump

>> No.19147594

>>19141362

So that makes BLOOD RAVENS OMNIBUS
BLOOD RAPERS OMNIBUS ?

>> No.19147598

>>19147594

That's hard to Swallow.

>> No.19147675

>>19147598
Talking from experience?

>> No.19147696

>>19147675

Your Jamesies rustled?

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