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Potential dumb question, but damnit I'll ask it anyways

If a librarian shows signs of possession, is their anyway too impede the process?(aside a bullet to the skull)

Be that through apothecary techniques, technology, or other techniques.

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>> No.18920826

You will have to be more specific here.

>> No.18920827

Id say it would really depend on how deeply posessed he was. Are we talking whispers in his head and mumbling, or full blown daemonic possession? I think the best would be a group of other librarians to purge it from him. Not sure how, but the Emprah works in mysterious ways.

>> No.18920844

Op here
Lets go with wisperings in his head, but to the point it can be guessed by people around him this is going on.

>> No.18920862

yes, you can get rid of those.
If the possessed librarian is too weak or unskilled to locate the source and kill it, he will either need to spend a long time meditating with a chaplain(and doing whatever else the chaplain tells him to do to repent) or he needs to get a few more experienced librarians to find the demon(s) screwing with his head and get rid of them.

>> No.18920884

There's not much of a process of possession, you're either possessed or you're not. Once possessed the daemon can be cast out.

>> No.18920885

cool thanks. What if the demon starts affecting his actions. Thus signaling a progression in his possesion

>> No.18920906

I will argue with you their. In the case of lorgar, he seemed to go through a progression of possesion. He at first was hearing the words of chaos and writing them down, then his form and actions started changing (and even then he couldn't bring himself to kill Guiliman at calth) then he ascended to demonhood

>> No.18920915

What about that Inquisitor from Space Marine tho? Wasnt that a gradual possession?

>> No.18920933

If it comes to the extreme you can always buddy him up with a null for a month or so

What? This doesn't work?

>> No.18920957

as long as he is willing to go through with the excorcism and as long as he lacks mutations, casting out the demonic influence has a non-zero chance of success. The deeper the demons dig into his mind and soul the harder it is to get rid of them without tearing the librarian apart.
If he is willing to get excorcised, but can't communicate his consent because of demonic influence, he is in deep shit and the odds of bringing him back in one piece are low. Not zero, but low.

>> No.18920982

This again is through, exorcism by librarian and/or chaplains?

>> No.18920998

No, the daemon killed him and posessed the corpse.

>> No.18921000

The inquisitor from Space Marine wasn't possessed, he was dead. Nemoroth killed him and then used his body in a ritual to put another demon in it, to further his goals.

>> No.18921022

None of that is possession though, just taint.

>> No.18921023

A regular old human can perform self-exorcisation by pain, an inquisitor did just that buy giving his power sowrd a big hug in the Daemonhunter codex. I imagine it wasn't a slaaneshi daemon, but that's splitting hairs. Also in the Hammer Of Daemons novel a Grey Knight was exorcised by a Dark Eldar Mandrake through torture, and even then all the Mandrake did was peel back the skin on one of the SMurf's arms and stick in some damned acupuncture needles. The pain was intense enough that when the SMurf went to ask what was going on he could not, because there was so much pain there was 'no room for anything else'. Including a Daemon, appearantly.

>> No.18921031

Thanks, thats something I'll keep in mind,

>> No.18921054


Smurf? I thought you said Grey Knight.

Also, Grey Knights are immune to the daemonic

>> No.18921075

It's Black Library. They don't gotta explain shit.

>> No.18921123

How can anything be immune to the daemonic, the only species that I would think is immune is the orks. Thats only because their philosophy make them incompatible to the whispering of chaos.

>> No.18921125

He had a collar of khorne on, it surpressed his immunity and all he had was his training.
Just like a SMurf, but that's beside the point, there's no reason a skilled torturer couldn't exorcise a daemon so long as it was still a seperate entity. Aside from superstition, dogma, etc, but that'd be something that would conscern the proles, not a space marine librarian.

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>> No.18921184

If they are so immune then why do they have to cover themselves in SoB blood for protection?

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>> No.18921190

seems like you have a specific example, what would that be?

>> No.18921194

They don't. But an extra layer doesn't hurt.


>> No.18921196

Them too, I'll agree their

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>> No.18921203

How does killing an allied force not hurt?

>> No.18921207

Chaos can taint machines though...

>> No.18921209

any battles, lore, or armies that would be an example of this?

>> No.18921212

Codex Daemon Hunters and Bloodquest.

>> No.18921218

Well then I stand corrected, was not aware of this

>> No.18921223

>How does killing an allied force not hurt?

They're expendable and going to die anyway. Holy blood magic helps protect you.

>> No.18921233

Well, when bloodtides are killing everything and ressurecting them to fight you, and you decide 'lets kill the sisters, and use their blood to *further* protect us, instead of just letting them die then having to kill them while they're daemonically possessed" It doesnt hurt.

Because god knows they're not going to walk away from the fight.

>> No.18921247

Orks' aren't immune, they just have an extremely effective counter-measure to daemonic possession, chaos cults, and genestealer infestations.

It involves an instinctual recognition of what's "Orky" and what's not, and an irrational violence towards any Ork that isn't "Orky". In other words, the waagh-effect allows them to subconsciously recognize when certain Orks aren't 'registering correctly', and fills them with an irrational desire to kill them.

Chaos Orks *do* happen, as do Genestealer Cult Orks. They just don't tend to last very long.

>> No.18921269

Thanks for the explanation, Had no idea this was the case. I had thought their mentality of whats orky and what's not orky had made them completely immune to the effects of chaos, not just resistant.

>> No.18921280

All Orks worship one of two chaos gods. It's just that those chaos gods are Gork and Mork.

>> No.18921305

Yeah, sure...

>> No.18921349

Anouther question, was their any example of a space marine in the traitorous legion during the Horus Hersey, after realizing what his legion was doing attempt to switch sides. If so to what degree of success, how did he do it?

>> No.18921387

Most Horus Heresy novel main characters, at least of the first few novels.

>> No.18921399

Loken? cause he didn't he stayed with the luna wolves/sons of horus.

>> No.18921411

They realised their Legion were bad dudes, also joined Garro and crew.

>> No.18921446

Well, a death guard marine founded the Grey Knights or Inquisition after escaping from the massacre of his legion, didn't he?

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There were also some inversions, loyalist legion members who joined Chaos because they thought their own Primarch a weakling.


>> No.18921520

The Exorcists chapter (who were a test daemon hunter chapter under the Grey Knights) have to be completely possessed and then exorcised as part of their initiation to full battle-brothers. The survivors are given "reconstructive surgery" to get rid of all the nasty mutations, and as well as massive daemon knowledge that they get from the possession, they become effectively invisible to most daemons in the warp.

>> No.18921641

he died with the last loyal sons of horus/luna wolves

>> No.18921651

Nah, he rolls with Garro's crew now.

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I am GAR for Loken.

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