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[ERROR] No.18085422 [Reply] [Original] [4plebs] [archived.moe]

Why don't the Eldar simply fuck their way back into dominance?

They're by a long shot the most advanced race in the galaxy, all they lack is sheer numbers to launch on a conquest campaign.

Even if they can't have sex due to that feeding Slaanesh or something, I think they could do something similar to what the Kriegs do, basically vat-grow new children.

>> No.18085429

They probably don't breed as fast as humans and orks, even if they try.

>> No.18085452

Inter-species breeding isn't reliable and clones degenerate into messes very rapidly int he GRIM DARKNESS of 40k.

>> No.18085472

>>18085422
>her left tit is almost twice the mass of right tit
>wouldn't fuck
>typical wife beating greenmarine image
>he was arrested for beating women
And you faggots complain about the nazi artist.

>> No.18085573

>>18085472

She's an anarchist nazi, that goes against all national socialists stand for.

>> No.18085578

Short answer? BECAUSE SLAANESH THIRSTS FOR THEIR SOULS!

Canonically, lots of eldar babies are stillborn because slaanesh tears their souls away while they are still in the womb. The Craftworld Eldar are really, really reluctant to reproduce, because they might, in a moment of passion, loose focus enough so that slaanesh can eat their souls.

Dark Eldar, on the other hand, are completely unafraid of fucking each others brains out... except i'm willing to wager any dark eldar child who reaches the age at which they can reproduce has already had her ovaries torn out through her fallopian tubes by means of some horrific masochistic ritual. And they probably enjoyed it too.

>> No.18085585

>>18085472
...wait, what?

>> No.18085744

>>18085578

Dark Eldar do reproduce fast, though after conception most babbies are grown at accelerated rate in tubes by the haemonculi and tossed to the streets of Commoragh naked afterwards.

>> No.18085794

>>18085472
greenmarine drew me an adorable kenku.
your rage spewing is invalidated.

>> No.18085796 [DELETED] 

>>18085422
Because it doesn't work that way.
Like everyone else the Eldar suffer from techno-entropy.
They use tech they don't completely understand, and lack the stability and resources to reclaim it.
They also basically exist in exile with a bare few planets held. The Eldar appear to be post-scarcity on an individual level; whether that's the same militarily is another question. They also aren't anything resembling united on any scale smaller then Threats To The Species.
Biel-Tan's about resurrecting the Empire, a task slated to succeed when the Eye of Terror closes of it's own accord.

Most of all, besides BT no one cares. The Eldar fight a battle for a very large set of stakes: the destruction of Slaanesh, and survival. Glory is ephemeral and ultimately pointless, as demonstrated everytime some Imperium psychophant crows about the greatness they imagine themselves heir to, without any respectful acknowledgement about them who came before.
Victor's don't write history, scholars do. And in a universe of Ignorant and Proud scholars are desperate short supply.

>> No.18085846

>>18085472
And technomancer hates women entirely and loves death porn. Your point?

>> No.18085902

Because not even they understand how their species reproduces. The male keeps adding genetic material over a long peroid of time, I think.

>> No.18085979

>>18085422
Because few of the paths of the eldar are conductive to feeling emotions required to "getting in the mood".
Most will be artisans, although the occasional warrior will enjoy sex to work out tensions.
Most other paths are highly unsuited to reproduction.
The fact that these paths just make it worse when it comes to trying to raise children is an issue.

Of course, in Commoragh, vat born children are common, although trueborn are much more valued, they are far more rare, given that to have one indicates that most horrifying of emotions... Trust. Given that one has to strip off most of their protective garments, and almost all their weaponry.

The Eldar with the most natural children tend to be Exodites. Given their heavy work days, they tend to rely on their exhaustion, and the fact that it's night when they do it to stave off hedonism.

>> No.18085987

rolled 4, 1 = 5

>>18085846
He's french, hence, he's evil.

>> No.18085989

Congratulations, OP, you have discovered one of the many plot holes in the background of Warhammer 40K.

The answer is that GW haven't really constructed a consistent setting and everything in 40K is just a poke at some fantasy or sci-fi trope (i.e. dying race of elves). This setting does not exist to make sense, it exists to be funny and ridiculous.

>> No.18086082

There are 2 survivial strategies for most species: K&R reproduction.

k = have as many kids as you can. Some are bound to survive (like a spider).

r = have as many kids as you can dedicate yourself to. You'll ensure their survival (humans).

R type animals will also tend to develop slower. Rather than instinctually knowing all they need to as soon as they're born they'll require more care and have prolonged periods of development before they're ready for adulthood. Humans are the most dramatic example of this: from the lowly negroid reaching puberty before double-digits to the dispassionate asian reaching adulthood in the early 20s.

Any fantasy race that takes 100s of years to develop should have a greatly extended period of childhood and puberty allowing them to become more intelligent adults. So the Eldar should naturally take a long time to reach maturity, have lower sexual drive, and produce less kids in general.

You can't change these facts by just saying "fuck more". It's biology. Whites have known they're outbred by lesser races for generations but have found it easy enough to rule other peoples despite inferior numbers.

Still, neither the Eldar of 40k, elves in Tolkien's fantasy, or any other similar bullshit like Asari from ME have their millenial-lived races depicted as kids for 200+ years like they should be. Just imagine, a decade of changing diapers. A century of teenage angst.

At most, authors say they think of the younger ones as children but that's a cop-out b/c if they're done growing (being adults in suspended animation for 500 years, have you ever seen a wrinkly elf?) they should start decaying.

>> No.18086097

Games Workshop does not believe in the need to create believable or justifiable societies.

Gav Thorpe described Dark Elves in a way that applies to Eldar too:

>This is where the difference between setting and story comes into its own. The Dark Elves and their society are an image, created to convey a particular group of emotions and thoughts. As an image they are free from any logic, their nature sustained purely by the needs of narrative determinism and internal consistency. Consistency is not the same as logic, and if one explores the image in too much depth then it will fall apart, just as if one examines a painting one brush stroke at a time one misses the whole painting. Now, this creates a limit on the amount of detail and story that can be injected into any given race or army or event, other than within its own context. The Dark Elves society works (for want of a better term) because that is what the image requires. If one attempts to justify the exact mechanics of this process it threatens to obscure the image. If one explains away one part of the image, it simply invites further question and analysis that the image is not designed to sustain, so that the image is eventually rendered down into the mundane.

>> No.18086109

>>18086097
>This is a tightrope that must be walked by all creators, so that the image still makes ‘sense’ enough to maintain a certain level of believability. Where such questions arise, it is often the case that the image is not strong enough on its own merits to ward away the inquiries. An image that maintains its purity and strength exists for itself and does not require further explanation.

>Is it truly possible for a society to exist in the state described for the Dark Elves? Probably not. Does it matter? Absolutely not. The fact is, it is unimportant whether or not Dark Elves really would need to be butchers and bakers and candlestick makers. What attracts us is the notion that they don’t have these things. This is often described as the Rule of Cool, usually in some kind of derogatory fashion. It is in fact nothing more or less than poetic or literary license to imagine what such a society might look like, rather than to work out the complex mechanics required for it to exist in reality. That is the beauty of fantasy!

So if someone wants to justify the workings of Warhammer societies, he is welcome to do so but should keep in mind that they were never designed with functionality and realism in mind, and in fact GW view is that they never should.

>> No.18086121

>>18085578
>>18085744
It's incidental for the Dark Eldar anyway, the entirety of the Dark Eldar make up about the same population as a large craftworld. As for the Eldar, I doubt they would ever "vat grow" out of respect for their own species. They are anal like that.

>> No.18086130

I, for one think the Imperium, minus the bulshit plot armor of Marines and heroes, is an entirely possible society, assuming we admit the existence of psykers, the Emprah, etc.

>> No.18086162

>>18085846

He might be evil, but he does draw things for us.

All of us are a little evil, right?

>> No.18086170

>>18086121
>the entirety of the Dark Eldar make up about the same population as a large craftworld.

You should probably check out the youtube interviews with Phil Kelly and Jes Goodwyn that were released along with the current Dark Eldar codex. They're much, *much* more numerous than that. A large Kabal has a population on par with a small Craftworld, and the Kabals sit at the very top of Commorite society. The Dark Eldar almost certainly outnumber the Craftworlders by a fair margain.

>> No.18086178

>>18086097

I happen to agree with him. Fantasy relies heavily on the willing suspension of disbelief, and 40K isn't so much "science fiction" as it is "Fantasy IN SPAAAAAACE!".

Tony Gonzales, the former lead writer for CCP Games and the author of two of the EVE Online novels basically expressed the same sentiment when I talked to him about it at Fanfest 2008. Oftentimes, trying to explain the *how* and *why* of something's function detracts from the experience when you could just handwave the details away and say "this is how it is. Fucking deal with it, I've got a story to tell."

TL;DR - Midichlorians.

>> No.18086182

>>18085422
Can they build more worldships? Do they still have that capability? If they don't, that would explain why their population doesn't grow.

>> No.18086198

>>18086121

Nah, Commoragh dwarfs the largest of Imperial hives and the Dark Eldar are according to the codex "more numerous than the Craftworld Eldar will ever know".

In contrast, Alatoic has just three Autarchs and twelwe farseers. Commoragh has Archons, Wych Cults and haemonculi covens beyond counting. We have zero reason to assume they're less numerous than Craftworlders as of their 5th edition codex.

Which is a good thing. Fluffwise tiny and irrelevant factions shouldn't get their own books to clutter the update schedule.

>> No.18086212

Eldar aren't a dying race because they can't make enough babies. Well they are, but that's minor.

Eldar are a dying race because THEY GET KILLED

and their idea of Teenage Rebellion is "FUCK YOU DAD I'M JOINING A SPACE PIRATE FLEET"

and their idea of a productive way of working out dem hormones is "Here's a high powered sniper rifle and camo cloak son, now you be careful wandering the dark corners of the cosmos and write home every century or so, y'year?"

>> No.18086221

>>18086182
Theoretically, there's no reason why they can't. Why bother, though? Each Craftworld has a fair amount of empty space on it, because there aren't enough Eldar to fully populate them.

>> No.18086225

>>18086198

So the craftworlders are vastly outnumbered, and tend to pick fights with the rest of the galaxy anyway. IF they're sufficiently few in numbers and long in childhood, that might imply that the rate of attrition in some centuries is just too much.

DESPITE the best efforts of the Farseers.

>> No.18086260

>>18086212
Well put.
It's strange that the Eldar do that. The Pirate/Ranger deal has got to be stupidly fucking dangerous. Working a merchant mariner is probably considerably better, but wandering around 40K solo with no (or soft) armor and a longarm is waaay beyond sensible given the number of things that hate the Eldar specifically _beyond_ merely finding anything bipedal and meat-filled tasty.

>> No.18086294

>>18086225

When the portents of doom and disbelief invade your mind, take a deep breath and read
>>18086097
>>18086109

>> No.18086321

>>18086260
>Working a merchant mariner is probably considerably better

It's considerably safer. That doesn't make it particularly helpful when you're looking to expose yourself to risk and danger in order to experience everything life has to offer. That's the point of an Exile - to experience the full range and depth of emotion available to an Eldar, from fear and rage to love and loss, so by the time they return to the Craftworld they're ready to settle down to a more sedate existance within the Path system. Pootling around on a merchant ship trading with Exodites probably doesn't really help with that.

>> No.18086332

>>18086198
>In contrast, Alatoic has just three Autarchs
And one of them's a woman.

>> No.18086335

>Why don't the Eldar simply fuck their way back into dominance?

>They're by a long shot the most advanced race in the galaxy, all they lack is sheer numbers to launch on a conquest campaign.

>Even if they can't have sex due to that feeding Slaanesh or something, I think they could do something similar to what the Kriegs do, basically vat-grow new children.

>
They're by a long shot the most advanced race in the galaxy, all they lack is sheer numbers to launch on a conquest campaign.

>They're by a long shot the most advanced race in the galaxy

Ahahhahhaah! nope, Necrons.

>> No.18086336

>>18086332
Fucking feminist agendas.

>> No.18086356

>>18086332

Heresy.

>> No.18086365

This is now an IG thread!

>> No.18086367

>> No.18086385

Dudebro, this isn't worksafe.
C'mon now.

>> No.18086391

Reported as this is a blue board.

Their reproductive cycle is fucked and requires multiple conceptions for a single child.

Vat Growing is seen as an abomination by the Craftworld Eldar, Dark Eldar are cool with it.

>> No.18086398

>>18086365
>This is now a cowards and weaklings thread!

>> No.18086401

Last time Eldar did sex they created Slaanesh.

Also if the Emperor knew about the empire fucking xenos he would sent a psychic wave of rage through the cosmos and the warp that everything gets fried. Even Khorne.

>> No.18086403

>>18086335
And in 10 years, Tau.

>> No.18086416

>>18085422
Each child needs a spirit stone lest Slaanesh eat their fucking souls. Know where you get spirit stones?

Crone Worlds. In the Eye of Terror. Covered in Daemons, and Cultists, and things that may once have been Eldar.

>Because few of the paths of the eldar are conductive to feeling emotions required to "getting in the mood".
Path of the whore
Path of the parent
Path of the Charlie Sheen
Path of the porn star
Path of the warlock
Path of the Dark Eldar
Path of the Gamgee
Path of the Rance

>sacrificed ntrdfoo
Fucking sacrifice/NTR porn. Fucking Dark Eldar

>> No.18086417

>>18086294
Except that the problem is suspension of disbelief is an inconstant state.
Recall the Spiritual Liege rage. At it's root the problem was the direction insertion of an idea that directly assaulted a basic pillar of the Space Marines: loyalty to the Chapter.
That was Suspension of Disbelief being directly assaulted.

40K is full of things that flirt with the idea, but ultimately are interesting enough to keep it's audience engaged. Lasguns, how DO they work? It doesn't really matter as long as they go pew-pew, shoot lasers and aren't very effective solo. Maugan Ra solos a 21 waves of Tyranids? Silly, but if he's the shootiest Eldar there ever was, it's not that offensive. Astropaths all communicate in metaphor and they all use different metaphors and SOMEHOW this enables the transmission of useful information. Lolz, but whatever.

Suspension of Disbelief is a thing to craft carefully and alter delicately, a concept GW neglects almost willfully.

>> No.18086460

>>18086398
>Be part of a chapter of traitors (Kyras) and retards (Boreale) on the verge of extinction.

>Call the Hammer of the Emperor cowards.

>> No.18086472

>>18086416

>Crone Worlds. In the Eye of Terror. Covered in Daemons, and Cultists, and things that may once have been Eldar.

You come for the soulstones, you stay for the buffets.

>> No.18086474

Kinda bizzare that, in the same race, one half can see the future and the other half can't...and the other half is thriving.

>> No.18086516

>>18086460
Hey now, suffering from a speech impediment doesn't mean you're stupid.

>> No.18086525

>>18086474

Knowing where you will place your foot will not prevent you from taking the step.

>> No.18086550

>>18086321
Hee hee, pootling.
But aye, I'll conceed this: much as it might rankle my jimmies, the Eldar aren't Vulcans. They don't want for brains, but their most potent racial drives are emotions. And _powerful_, all-consuming ones. So when some Ranger is queuing up at a Webway gate s/he isn't thinking about exactly how small the odds are that they'll ever see their home again or what they'll have to eat to survive or what kind of horrific diseases await.
No, s/he's thinking about how this'll be the Best Adventure EVAR and how that makes anything that follows worthwhile even at the potential cost of their soul being Slaanesh's latest toy for eternity.
...hmm. So almost completely at odds with the ice-blooded image of a hooded wanderer observing everything through an impassive visage the random Ranger/Traveler Eldar is probably almost hyper with an eagerness to DO STUFF RIGHT NOW, order everything on the menu, and wake up with a reality-splitting headache next to two Zoats and a very confused looking Kroot in the back of a wrecked Chimera.

pic related, it's a bundle of super-happy.

>> No.18086551

>>18086460
>Calls others retards
>Posts a picture of the Icon of incompetence and stupidity

>> No.18086590

>>18086525
Also being unable to hide in the perfect spot with all of the best toys of the destroyed empire probably has something to do with it.
Kinda like how no Fallout game ever spawns you out of Cheyenne Mt. with a full compliment of body armor, state-of-the-art weapons, weeks of light-weight rations, and a fucking tank.

>> No.18086601

>>18086416

>Path of the Rance

Note to self: request "Rance as an Eldar" from future drawthreads.

>> No.18086605

>>18086474
It plays into 40k's core themes. Of the two main Eldar factions, the one that represents the best of them is slowly dying away, while the one that holds true to the worst aspects of their racial psyche are thriving. That's grimdark for you.

>>18086550
>No, s/he's thinking about how this'll be the Best Adventure EVAR

Exactly. A prospective Ranger probably isn't going to worry about dying; if they think about it at all, it's a risk they're willing to take in order to experience life without rules or limitations, to understand what it's like to let themselves run wild.

>> No.18086623

>>18085472
>he was arrested for beating women
wait what?

>> No.18086632

>>18086605
>the one that represents the best of them is slowly dying away

No, the Dark Eldar are doing pretty well for themselves.

>> No.18086645

>>18086632

I see what you did there!

>> No.18086655

>>18086403

Doesn't matter because the plot won't ever advance that far ahead.

You're still wrong though!

>> No.18086662

>>18086590

Although the Eldar shouldn't have that much justifiable scarcity problem given the bonesingers can literally pull materials out of thin air.

It agains goes to suspension of disbelief.

>> No.18086678

>>18086662
>that pic
Did she forget to remove the price tag from her strip of red fabric?

/fa/ would have a stroke.

>> No.18086690

>>18086416
>Path of the Rance

Brilliant. I would play the shit out of a game about an Eldar Corsair Prince who sets out on a mission to leave no female untouched by his Hyper Weapon. Seriously, that is a five star character. Should be in the next codex.

Rha'ance the Unquenchable, Pirate Rake of the Sagittarius Arm.

>> No.18086692

>>18086678
No, it's the tag for a present. Notice the "To /tg/" on the tag.

>> No.18086710

>>18086416

>Path of the Charlie Sheen
>Path of Winning

Secret to final victory?

>> No.18086716

>Path of the Greater Good
>Eldar helpers

Please blessed GW make it so!

>> No.18086737

>>18086716

No.

NO.

>> No.18086739

>>18086716
Eldar already have proxies in the Tau Empire. They're called Ethereals.

>> No.18086755

>>18086716
Hmmm..... which emotion will win out, Pride or desperation?

>> No.18086762

>>18086710

Those on the Path of the Charlie Sheen can wield sonic weapons which blast WINNING WUB WUB WUB WUB WUB.

>> No.18086766

Path of the Scrillecs.

>> No.18086774

Is there a Path of the NEET or Path of the Roleplayer?

>> No.18086779

ITT: people who doesn't read fluff

>> No.18086781

>>18086766
>eldar dubstep
That sounds like an excellent idea, comrade anon. Surely nothing bad could come of it!

>> No.18086786

>>18086774
>Path of the Roleplayer?

Harlequins practice that one.

The Solitaire follows the Path of the NEET.

>> No.18086795

>>18085422
>I think they could do something similar to what the Kriegs do, basically vat-grow new children.

>mfw fa/tg/guys still believe Kriegers are vat-grown.

>> No.18086820

>>18086786

But...I just want to hang out in the webway and play Rance: the Conquering with my friends.

>> No.18086850

>>18086781

That wasn't so bad, was it?

>> No.18086855

>>18086774
>Is there a Path of the NEET

Actually, sort of, yes. Path of the Dreamer. It's entirely focussed upon introspection; those walking it spend their time in a state of idle relaxation, drifting through their memories to gain a greater understanding of themselves and where they want to go next in life.

>> No.18086857

>>18086795
There is just as much fluff supporting the idea as directly denying it.

>> No.18086858

>>18086850
where is the dick?
i smell a trap.

>> No.18086860

>>18086820
Goddammit Anon you're such a fucking embarrassment. All you do is sit on the wraithweb, browsing runechan, or slack about with those Pathless friends of yours. You need to get yourself a proper Path, boy.

>> No.18086875

>>18086860
>All you do is sit on the wraithweb, browsing runechan, or slack about with those Pathless friends of yours. You need to get yourself a proper Path, boy.
damn you i forgot to breathe for a moment.
so this is why the eldar decline.

>> No.18086885

Eldar hm?

Slaaneshi Hijack!

>> No.18086890

>>18086860

Which Path is the one where you run into machine-gun fire wearing bright red armor and swinging a sword? Cause I don't want that one.

>> No.18086895

>>18086875
Slaneesh is just a bunch of Eldar larpers who don't realize anything has changed.

>> No.18086896

>>18086860
>>18086855

Mooooooom, I'm on the path of the dreamer until I figure out what I want to do with my life, why can't you support my vision quest?

And buy more frozen pizzas, we're out.

>> No.18086918

>>18086858
Hey, daemonettes only have dicks 50% of the time. It's sort of a Schrodinger's Cat kind of thing; you can't tell what you're going to get until you get it.

>> No.18086927

>>18086857
[citation required]

Dead Men Walking pretty much established that vitae-womb doesn't clone or vat-grow children, but instead speeds up development in the womb, so Krieger women can pump out babies faster. An example is when the Commissar visited Krieg and noticed that nearly every woman was heavily pregnant.

>> No.18086928

>>18086716
I once played an Eldar corsair who was doing some mercenary work for the Tau. He, along with his warband, switched sides the moment the scales tipped significantly in favour of the Tau, because it was only really fun while they were the losing side and Tau women are ghastly anyway (ooga booga where da mon'keigh women at).

Just thought I'd put that out there.

>> No.18086941

>>18086918
rolling...

>> No.18086942

>>18086860

That is just, like, your opinion, farseer...

>> No.18086948

Hey Eldar, this friendly Marine has offered you to play you the song of his people!

>> No.18086965

The Pathless, or instead, the Path of the Anon: Wraithweb Superhero.

>> No.18086972

>>18086928
>He, along with his warband, switched sides the moment the scales tipped significantly in favour of the Tau, because it was only really fun while they were the losing side and Tau women are ghastly anyway

FUCKING ELDAR

WHY DO YOU DO THIS

FIRST URIEN AND HIS CULTURAL EXCHANGE, NOW THIS BULLSHIT

EVERY FUCKING TIME

>> No.18086976

>>18086965

Pah, flocking Eldar don't have shit on the AdMech

>> No.18087000

They do have sex but because they are long lived the whole being born / growing up process takes a very very long time.

coupled with the fact that the eldar as they are now arent in the best position to have an uber long life expectancy and they have a hard time making up losses.

>> No.18087003

>>18086976

AdMech Net. Complete with the Glorious Magos Stanislaus Roo, Principal of Data Moderation.

>> No.18087006

>>18086948

No thank you, he might find this fellow more receptive to his fine arts.

>> No.18087020

>>18086896
You've been on the Path of the Dreamer for years, and I've yet to hear a single introspective thought from you! You need to sign up with some Path Agencies; they'll show you what your options are and try to get you on the Path that's right for you.

You can't dream forever, Anon. I swear to Khaine, if I don't see some movement from you within the next decade, you're on the Path of the Outcast, if you catch my drift.

>> No.18087021

>>18086976
Get killed during AdMech DDOS
>sad_eldar.jpg
Become a plaything of Slaanesh

>> No.18087038

>>18086976

Admech? Those have hard time interfacing with their zippers in the bathroom.

>> No.18087047

>>18086170
>>
You should probably check out the youtube interviews with Phil Kelly and Jes Goodwyn that were released along with the current Dark Eldar codex. They're much, *much* more numerous than that. A large Kabal has a population on par with a small Craftworld, and the Kabals sit at the very top of Commorite society. The Dark Eldar almost certainly outnumber the Craftworlders by a fair margain.

Well that fucking ruins them. I liked them better when they were a big cult that raided everything but always got away. Like Jerry if Jerry kept raping Tom and burning his land. Besides, the idea of that many entities willing to wear such absurd armour is a stretch.

>> No.18087069

>>18087003

++++END OF LINE++++

>/YOU ARE BANNED/ *26.115.922.689:54*

>> No.18087079

>>18087038

Eldar are still whiney over the fall of ther civilization
Humans just fucking started again.

And I hope it feels nice to be beaten with Tractors and Heavy Duty maintenance suits, Wytch

>> No.18087083

>>18087069
The loyal fans are already close to servitors.

>> No.18087089

>>18087079

Good luck, mon'keigh. I'm behind seven proxies.

>> No.18087092

>>18086972
It's nothing personal. Tau just get sort of boring when they're winning.

>> No.18087094

>>18087047

You're pretty much alone on that one, I'd wager. Fluffwise tiny factions filling codex space is bad for 40k.

As for all wearing absurd armour, 40k isn't a super serious setting with its orks and spase marens and whatnot, it's not worse than what Guardians have been wearing anyway.

>> No.18087095

>>18087083

Hm..Xeno Servos...now that'd be nice to see

>> No.18087111

>>18087079

>Again

>> No.18087128

>>18087111

oops, just droped a soulstone. I'm so clumsy today

>> No.18087145 [DELETED] 

>>18087095

Please, Dark Age of Technology 2? That was a real travesty. You really outdid ourselves hiring Eni-Fer "the Helper" with high quality writing as exampled by, "I am hungry." Or, "I want to be a cyberdragon."

>> No.18087155

This is now an AdMech thread.

>> No.18087162

>>18085472
When did he beat anyone?

>> No.18087170

>>18087111
You just mad 'cause I'm gonna steal your souls.

>> No.18087175

>> No.18087185

>>18087095

>Dark Age of Technology 2
>Hired Eni-Fer "the Helper"
>Quality writing - "I am hungry," and "I want to be a cyberdragon."

>> No.18087205

>>18087170

You've already laid a claim on them, how do you intend to steal from yourself?

>> No.18087222

>>18087170

SLAANESH SINGS THROUGH US!

>> No.18087228

>>18087205
But the souls are currently inside Eldar bodies, and the Eldar in question don't tend to give over their souls willingly.

Hence stealing them.

>> No.18087240

I fondly remember my days on the Path of the College Slacker with a Guitar.

The weed was good. The tunes were good. The world meant something, and we were gonna change it for the better. Just like Cash, Cobainicus, Marley, Doomrider, and Horus.

Now I'm up to my ass in Tyranid guts and dead chicks. Go abroad, they said. Broaden your horizons, they said. Fucking Path of the Iyanden Inexperienced Necromancer.

>>18086860
Path of the Wanker.

>>18086890
Path of the Blood Angel

>>18086972
Path of the Troll.

>> No.18087262

>>18087222
>disemboweling a child
What the fuck, man? She could have grown up to be a debauched, drug addicted whore. But she died young and innocent because of you.

Shitty Slaanesh worshiper is shitty.

>> No.18087274

>>18087228

That implies the being of Eldar is separate from their souls which can be disputed.

The trappings of materium are but threads by which mortals hangs for a split second before the plummet.

>> No.18087286

>> No.18087302

>>18087286
i never understood that pic until now...
th...thanks /tg/

>> No.18087305

>>18087286
She may be laughing on the outside, but on the inside burns an envy that is matched nowhere else in the galaxy.

>> No.18087308

>>18087286

Be a friend and upload anything you have to the wraithweb?

>> No.18087320

>>18087286
totallyjelly.jpg

>> No.18087327

I heard about this new path called the Path of the Aesthetic. What do you fellows think about it?

>> No.18087337

>>18087308

Macha would be too occupied with her own issues and desires to ever get hands on material about others.

>> No.18087361

>>18087327

I heard about that exarch! Z'iz, right? He has a lot of admirers on the wraithweb.

>> No.18087369

>>18087327
Sounds good to me...

>> No.18087390

>>18087305
S'okay she just needs to find someone on the Path of the Horny Jackass With a Giant Cock.

Unfortunately that path is mostly filled with women.

>> No.18087393

>>18087170
Hmmm..... Existance within the infinity circut vs getting brutaly played with until I get turned into a daemonette

>> No.18087394

>>18087308
Boy, you're in luck. Give me a minute to upload the Love Can Bloom/Macha folder.

>> No.18087430

>>18087393

The Infinity Circuit isn't so bad, really. You can still communicate with the other wraiths, and sometimes even with the living but mostly not. Of course, thousands of wraiths who are unable to get laid and never get to leave their container, I'd imagine they're dreadfully bored and spend much of their time trolling each other. Basically, Eldar wraiths are stuck forever on an equivalent of 4chan.

>> No.18087440

>>18087302
Happens.

>> No.18087444

>>18087394
The collector lives! Long live the collector!

>> No.18087461

>>18087444
I never left. I'm ALWAYS around... well not tonight. In a few hours I'm going to the bar. With a lady friend.
Anyway, LOVE CAN BLOOM!
http://www.mediafire.com/?uzub2b6kgo9vw1f

>> No.18087463

>>18087393
The terrible irony of the Eldar is that existence within the Infinity Circuit is a miserably boring endless purgatory, while a soul taken by Slaanesh rapidly loses the sanity needed to experience suffering, and spends the rest of eternity in pure ecstasy.

The Eldar are basically fucking themselves over by resisting the call of the Ruinous Powers.

>> No.18087467

>>18087461

Looking pretty good, Miss Collector.

>> No.18087474

>>18087463
>while a soul taken by Slaanesh rapidly loses the sanity needed to experience suffering, and spends the rest of eternity in pure ecstasy.

Bullshit.

>> No.18087485

>>18087461
Long live the Collector!

>> No.18087487

>>18087461
>dat bird-like head
So you're a daemonette of Tzeentch? I should have known.

>> No.18087492

>>18087467
I stopped being surprised at how much '63 fanart there is. Anyway, back to your regularly scheduled Eldar thread.

>> No.18087493

>>18087463
>while a soul taken by Slaanesh rapidly loses the sanity needed to experience suffering, and spends the rest of eternity in pure ecstasy.

That would be nice, except that it isn't how it works. Like, at all. Slaanesh doesn't keep the souls around. Slaanesh *eats them*. The choice the Eldar have is either boredom or oblivion, where oblivion leads to a stronger threat to their family and friends.

>> No.18087503

>>18087487
Crows and Magpies have always been his motif.
He may not be the Big Bird himself, but he's defiantly a minion.

>> No.18087504

>>18087463

No, sir. I would rather minimize the risk entirely by wearing my spirit stone 24/7, never leaving my fortified apartment in Commorragh, and taking classes over the wraithweb/browsing runechan.

>> No.18087528

>>18087493

There's no such thing as oblivion in the warp, Chaos gods just absorb the tiny soul motes to their greater whole.

Interestingly, 2e Eldar codex said Slaanesh has created some Chaos Eldar in the Crone worlds:
>It is said that there are worlds where Eldar still live, the descendants of Chaos-worshipping Eldar of ancient times, spared or recreated by Slaanesh

>> No.18087550

>>18087504

>the best way to survive is to never get laid

and now you understand, /tg/

>> No.18087569

>>18087504
Is you Macha, virgin?

>> No.18087586

>>18087528
>There's no such thing as oblivion in the warp, Chaos gods just absorb the tiny soul motes to their greater whole.

For one, yes there is such a thing as oblivion in the Warp. There are ways to kill that destroy a soul forever. As for the Chaos Gods, you're arguing semantics. The Eldar soul consumed by Slaanesh no longer exists. It is absorbed and in doing so no longer is its own thing. It would be like us saying its fine to be eaten by rats because hey, we'll still exist as our flesh is digested and used to spawn more rats.

>> No.18087588

>>18087550
And therein lies the problem.

>> No.18087596

>>18087569

Macha? Who's Macha? I've never heard of this "Macha", before...

And I'm not a virgin!

>> No.18087613

>>18087596
Riiighhtttt.....

>> No.18087615

>>18087463
Sure is Chaos propaganda in this thread.

You're conveniently forgetting to mention the part where all that you are as an individual is torn away and you become an empty slave to the Dark Gods.

>> No.18087640

>>18087586

>yes there is such a thing as oblivion in the Warp
Nopes.

>There are ways to kill that destroy a soul forever
Which just translates to smearing it across the warp.

Ratflesh analogy is a bad one, souls are motes of energy in a sea of energy, drops of liquid.

>> No.18087672

>>18087615

What makes one an individual is on extremely shaky grounds to begin with, especially in Warhammer.

>> No.18087684

>>18087640
Well, I'd rather just have plain old normal existence, rather than a vague philosophical sense of continued existence in the Warp, getting raped by daemons and going insane.

>> No.18087687

>>18087640
So all warp energy is bits and peaces of everyone's souls?

>> No.18087694

>>18087613
I'm sorry, but is that a hot dog or...?
Yeah, yeah it's gotta be a hot dog. Alright, I get it.

>> No.18087697

>>18087687
...hence why the Warp is also known as "The Sea of Souls".

>> No.18087722

>>18087640
>Nopes.
>Which just translates to smearing it across the warp.
[citation needed], and here's the proof of your falsehood. You are wrong, and basing your opinions on that which is pulled out of your ass.

>souls are motes of energy in a sea of energy, drops of liquid.
Souls are neither, they are souls. Furthermore they have self-knowledge and can be distinguished from other souls. The flesh analogy is sound. Souls are as much a part of the Immaterium as the body is part of the Materium, they are, but within it they are their own thing, until they are not, which is a fate all wish to avoid.

>> No.18087778

Not proof. You're conjecturing everything from "killed forever" which does not convince anyone. Souls are warp energy and that energy is not going anywhere even if the soul loses its integrity.

>Furthermore they have self-knowledge and can be distinguished from other souls.

They don't have self-knowledge and can't be distinguished from other souls. The Eldar codex flat out states this happens immediately upon entry to the warp for non-psykers, before merging with a god.

>which is a fate all wish to avoid.
Pulling things out of your ass. For the Chaos worshippers that don't daemonify, merger with the god, which is just a big vortex of warp energy, is the goal as stated in 4e chaos codex. For others, they meld with the warp immediately.

>> No.18087811

>>18087778
>The Eldar codex flat out states this happens immediately upon entry to the warp for non-psykers
Every Eldar is a psyker

>before merging with a god.
Pulled out of your ass.

>> No.18087832

>>18087778
>Souls are warp energy and that energy is not going anywhere even if the soul loses its integrity.

If it loses integrity, it is not a soul any more, nor that person any more. Hence, oblivion. You seem to be forgetting what you are arguing.

>> No.18087834

>implying there is reliable 40k canon
>especially about the Warp
>even more so about souls in the Warp
Oh god, I lol'd.

>> No.18087869

Warp energy is still energy, and energy can't be destroyed it can only take different forms.

>> No.18087882

>>18087869
> Warp energy is still energy, and energy can't be destroyed it can only take different forms.

Matter is still matter, but if you're eaten you still cease to exist.

>> No.18087888

>>18087882
Not according to my vore vetishes.

>> No.18087905

Wooo porn on page 0, fingers crossed that no janitor or mod has replaced the last one.

>> No.18087916

>>18087905
This thread has literally been going on for more than seven hours. I think we're good.

>> No.18087918

>>18087888
>vetishes
THAT IS NOT A WORD!!!

>> No.18087921

>>18087832

Oblivion in the sense of cessation of existence, not the "cessation of sense of self".

If the latter is your definition, all souls go through it. Harlequins by becoming one with the Laughing God and all the others by coalescing into whatever warp vortex draws their energy, or in very rare cases turning into an independent daemon, which still is a reflection of mental traits more than an actual person. This is clearly laid out in the first pages in the Realms of Chaos books.

>> No.18087929

>>18087905
>fingers crossed that no janitor or mod has replaced the last one.

Damn it, now you've jinxed it by invoking He Who Must Not Be Named.

>> No.18087932

>>18087918
Sure it is.

I have alot of them.

>> No.18087934

>>18087916
No, you are a fag, I made this thread thee hours ago at most.

>> No.18087941

Fuck your shit I'm raping your souls, eating souls, and then auto-fellating so I can fuck while I suck and spew while I chew.

Love and Kisses,
Slaanesh

>> No.18087946 [DELETED] 

>>18087941

You mad, Slaanesh?

>> No.18087963

>>18087941
Love you too, Slaanesh.

But you can't rape my soul if I give consent.

>> No.18087972

>>18087916
It's been a little over four hours. Just check the timecodes.

>> No.18087977 [DELETED] 

>>18087941

You're just mad because The True Emprah earned Code S and not you.

>> No.18087981

>>18087963
Yes I can.

I'd share the details, but I don't want to spoil the surprise.

>> No.18087982

>>18087941
So tell us oh King-Bitch of the Eldar, Are they still them whil you do this to them?

>> No.18087999

>>18087921
>If the latter is your definition, all souls go through it.

Not those in the Infinity Circuit, nor Eldar souls pre-Fall for that matter, which were simply reborn into another body through reincarnation.

>> No.18088002

>>18087941

Good luck, Slaanesh. I'm behind seven wraithproxies.

>> No.18088040

>>18087982
I actually tend to empathically connect them to ever other Eldar everywhere and everywhen. Everyhow and Everywhy if I'm bored. Everywhat on Tuesdays.

So one could say I'm doing it to the entire race one soul at a time.

But that's all very Tzeentchian and while I'm always one for some 69ing I'll cut to the chase. Yes, them's still them, even when they's other theys.

>> No.18088088

>>18088040
Thank's for the clarification (I think) Bastard Queen of Space Elves.

>> No.18088147

>>18087722
Is it cheating to play a high-wounds psyker and explode after every encounter?

>> No.18088148

>>18087999

Even those in infinity circuit are merging if you believe in the Ynnead theory.

Reincarnation for Shamans and Eldar was possible in the calm warp but evidently the window for that passed as the god-vortices grew in size. What follows is speculation but probably the most plausible theory for that: if the development and pull of the warp vortices grows with the rise and fall of souled beings in the materium, reincarnation window of the calm warp would probably be available only in the universe's infancy and then be closed forever.

>> No.18088229

>>18088002

Sooner or later you will slip.

>> No.18088274

>>18088229
Hey Slaanesh, any special considerations for those of us who give ourselves willingly to you?

Like, more emphasis on the infinite delight, and less on being eaten?

>> No.18088283

>>18088002
Silly Eldar playtoy.

What do you think Wraithproxies made out of?

Hint: Not Cocaine, but correct color, effect, and origin.

>> No.18088301

>>18088274


I believe that's down to a whim.

Every Keeper of Secrets is different in appearence and modus operandi in fluff, depending on the mood of Slaanesh during its creation.

Petitioners better hope Slaanesh is in a good mood.

>> No.18088321

>>18088274
Pain, pleasure. Same thing really.

If you give yourself to me you'll enjoy it more. Maybe I'll be a bit more playful, turn your tongue into aphrodisiac scorpions or some romantic shit like that.

Also you might come back as a daemonette with giant tits. The Monkeigh and Tau seem to love that one.

>> No.18088408

>>18088321
Aww, that sounds sweet. Consider me a follower.

>> No.18088416

Eldar, you say? Would you like help using those visions of the future of yours?

>> No.18088429

>>18088274
>>18088408
>offering your soul to Slaanesh
Sure is heretical ITT.

>> No.18088450

>>18088416
Tzeentch hijack?

>> No.18088461

>>18088274
>watch 'hellraiser'
>watch 'cannibal holocaust' and porn at the same time while eating truffles
>you still aren't prepared for the sights Slaanesh has to show you
>expect 'special considerations'
>mfw

>> No.18088464

>>18087905
Should I start posting thri-kreen porn? There's only a little but it's extra-heretical.

>> No.18088465

>>18088450
>>18088416
If you two have more of sexy dude tzeentch, you certainly have my vote.

>> No.18088493

>>18088465
I wholeheartedly agree.

>> No.18088496

>>18088461
Hey man, all I'm asking for is a guarantee I won't be devoured and consigned to oblivion like the Eldar.

>> No.18088514

>>18088465
I only have the one, I'm afraid. I do save the ones that make me deeply question my own heterosexuality, but there aren't many of them.

>> No.18088528

>>18088321
Now I want to see a story involving a delusional daemonette commissar, who still thinks she's a loyalist and that the other daemons under her comand are her regiment.

>> No.18088530

>>18088514
That's Khorne, you nub.

>> No.18088538

>>18088465
>>18088493
There was a variant, but he lacks the smirking schemer look that's most of the draw.

>> No.18088544

>> No.18088545

>>18088496

Chaos Gods are equal opportunity so you're out of luck...or perhaps not because since Slaanesh can spare or recreate Eldar she can spare or recreate you.

>> No.18088549

>>18088528
I too wish to see this story

>> No.18088576

>>18088528

>> No.18088587

>>18086781

for the greater good we need sauce

>> No.18088677

>They're by a long shot the most advanced race in the galaxy

Orks are actually just as advanced, just not in a way the resonates "technologically advanced" with us.

Both were created by the same super race whatever their name is again and given pretty much the same tech, just in different ways.

>> No.18088772

Why is it that it doesn't appear that anybodies mentioned the decade long gestation period that Eldar children have? (a ctrl+f gor gestation came up negative)It's right in the damn codex. Eldar society is very demanding of it's participants and carrying around a baby for something like 9 years and ensuring it's survival in the in the midst of grim-darkness on top of keeping it's soul from being snatched up by Slaanesh at any given moment in or out of time, proves to be a very inefficient use of a decade. The costs of gaurenteeing the survival of the mother and her child while she remains more or less a burden on her craft-world prove to outweigh the benefits of gaining a single Eldar child, which then has to go through years of training and may just end up turning over to the side of the Dark Eldar or might just end up dieing anyway.

I mean fuck, it's right in the codex.

>> No.18088796

Nsfw tg tiem

>> No.18088803

>>18088796
Why sage?

>> No.18088809

DAMNIT /tg/

WHY ARE DAEMONNETTES SO SEXY

>> No.18088830

>>18088809
It's what they're there to do.

>> No.18088840

>>18088803
Sage so don't bump the thread. Every time we fall too far, feel free to do so, but I believe it's customary to let these sorts of hijacks linger out of sight. Save other people's sensibilities as much as possible, and all that.

>> No.18088841

>>18088809
I do my best.

Lolinette
Bustynette
Futanette
Meganette
Tsunderette
Orknette
Yanderette
Vanillette

You name it I made that shit.

Huggles and Anal Screws,
Slaanesh

>> No.18088842

To hide it, sage for safety!

>> No.18088845

>>18088809

Are they, really.

>> No.18088860

>>18088845

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_4Wqm_zhIY

>> No.18088877

Requesting more hot tzeentch demons, or just generally hot demons looking smug/scheming at the viewer.

>> No.18088880

>> No.18088905

Are the Eldar especially susceptible to attacks from the Warp? They have such strong pyker powers I would think that every last Eldar is like neon sign in the Warp for every daemon to see.

>> No.18088925

>>18088845
YES YES THEY ARE

ADOPTING SAGENOKO TO PRESERVE THE PEACE

>> No.18088926

>>18088905
Basically, yeah. That's why they hide in the Webway.

>> No.18088927

>>18088905

Their spirit stones provide a measure of protection, even while they're still alive. In fact, such stones are in demand among certain humans as well for their protective properties.

>> No.18088929

>> No.18088932

>>18088905
You ever see what happens when a bug hits a neon sign?

>> No.18088943

>>18088905

They either suppress their powers and do not use them, or use them on a path with crapload of protection like ghosthelms etc

>> No.18088945

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>> No.18089132

>>18089034
>ork boys face when

>> No.18089154

>>18088945
Gender equality in porn dumps? On *my* /tg/?

>> No.18089175

>>18089154
It isn't your /tg/.

>> No.18089201

>>18089175

The proper response is "It's more likely than you think."

>> No.18089209

>>18089175
Nor is it mine. It's moot's, and we just borrow it.

>> No.18089224

>> No.18089245

>>18089224
This disturbs me.

>> No.18089250

>>18089224
Then you ruin it, not vaguely /tg/ related. fuck off

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>>18085422

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My.bad

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>> No.18093466

>>18086710
I'm on a path called Char'le Shiiann
It's not available, if you join it once you will die
Your soulstone will melt off
And your squad will weep over your corrupted body, over your corrupted body

>> No.18093532

>>18093405
I cant fap to this.

This you can fap to

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>> No.18094446

>>18087778
>Souls are warp energy and that energy is not going anywhere even if the soul loses its integrity.
Losing integrity is the same thing as being destroyed.

Let's say I take a chair and put it through a wood chipper. The chair no longer exists as a chair, just as wood chips. Similarly, if we take an eldar soul and give it to Slaanesh, it gets torn apart and eaten. The warpstuff of the soul still exists, but no longer in the form of an eldar soul. The eldar is dead forever.

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