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[ERROR] No.17841327 [Reply] [Original] [4plebs] [archived.moe]

What do you think about the new Necrons?
Any advice which units are worth buying?

I just got an Annihilation Barge. Thinking about getting Lychguards / Praetorians. Should I equip them with warscythes or shield + x ?

Got any good army lists?

>> No.17841359

>>17841327
Not a Necron player, but had some games against them. Lord in Command Barge is good, Scarabs are nice, same goes for Spyders, Wraiths are awesome. Warriors in Ghost Arks are good, though keep them out of CC at all costs. Lychguard and Pretorians aren't that hot for a close combat unit if you ask me.

>> No.17841379

>>17841359
Thanks for your input. Are warriors out of arks any good?
Still got like 80 models of them. Used to spam them when there still was phase out. Are monos still any good? Their point cost has been reduced to 200, but they cant tele units out of combat anymore :-/

>> No.17841384

Old necron player here,

FUCK THE NEW CODEX AND ITS BULLSHIT FLUFF!

That is all.

>> No.17841400

>>17841379
warriors are still fine without arks, but with arks they get better (i usually see people run large squads or warriors and just have the ark run along side them)

the monoliths great to protect warriors and other shooty units, just park your guys infront of its portal and dare people to get close.

command barges are great and so are annihilation barges (i run 2 anni barges, they are better then riffle dreads for less)

i got a box of lychguard/praetorians and used them to make crypteks and lords for the royal court.

other elites like ctan shards and trarch stalkers are better elite choices (and a deathmark squad with a abyssal staff and veil cryptek can destroy terminators because the ap 2 template gets to wound on a 2+)

scarabs are great against vehicles, but only vehicles.

>> No.17841403

>>17841379
They can glance vehicles to death at torrent of fire stuff, though they fail utterly against FnP units. And Arks add some mobility and survivability to your scoring unit. They are ok.

>> No.17841418

>>17841384

>> No.17841434

>>17841384
Cheer up!

>> No.17841435

>>17841400
Lychguard and Pretorians are only good if you play "Bounce a Trazyn"

>> No.17841440

>>17841434

>> No.17841447

>>17841435
good ol crazy trazy
yeah i concur with you that they only work well with trazyn

>> No.17841454

Those necron flyers (forgot their name) are pretty good.

>> No.17841457

>>17841440

>> No.17841477

What about Necron heavy support? Which units are good?

>> No.17841495

>>17841418
Just a bit..

Everything that was the 'Necron' is now gone. Awesome fluff, full of destruction on a galactic (universal?) level, gods that eat suns for breakfast, and a unending tide of ever repairing machines hell bent on removing life down to the atom.

And the monolith, oooh the monolith, the IDon'tGiveAFuck'olith. What that, melta/lance weapons? 404 errors on fucks. Deep striking 3 of these bad boys in a game was always going to ruin your opponents day. Now, they go pop faster than an ork trukk running into a land raider.

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inb4 haters gonna hate

>> No.17841503

>>17841495
>Awesome fluff, full of destruction on a galactic (universal?) level, gods that eat suns for breakfast, and a unending tide of ever repairing machines hell bent on removing life down to the atom.

are you sure you're not describing the NEW fluff?

>> No.17841509

>>17841495
3 Monolith build wasn't that hard to deal with, when I figured out that I can ignore them and kill-off your Necrons to force Phase-out. Usually my opponent was too busy using the Monoliths to teleport his guys away instead of shooting pieplates at me. And it was the only legit build Oldcrons had.

>> No.17841511

>>17841495
>hell bent on removing life down to the atom
[citation needed]

>> No.17841515

>>17841511
That would be the newcron destroyers, or the newcron scarabs.

>> No.17841540

>>17841509
5th ed fix that, When there are only 3 monoliths and a Nightbringer on the board with Warriors walking on board a couple of turns later, you find that the phase out rule was never really on your side.

>>17841503
Old fluff: Killed everything, went to sleep.
New fluff: Betrayed the C'tan, feel asleep for no reason.

>>17841511
See 'destroying all life' section in the 3rd ed codex/

>> No.17841545

>>17841540
>destroying all life
where in that codex again?

All they did was killing troubleshooters, and then capturing the remaining ones for the C'tans to devour. And the C'tans didn't even intend to kill everything, but to farm humans.

Killing everything was never never their goal.

>> No.17841552

>>17841540
Shooty IG can kill your monoliths and then nuke your warriors with all the shit it has. Remember, Ordnance worked against Monoliths.

>> No.17841597

>>17841540
>Old fluff: Old Ones killed themselves with enslavers, went to sleep for no reason.
>New fluff: Betrayed the C'tan, doing so left them to weak to fight Eldar so the went to sleep to hide out.

>>17841545
Funny how little Oldcron fans actually know of the old fluff, eh? It's almost like they only ever played Dark Crusade and listened to some guys on /tg/.

>> No.17841599

>>17841540
>Old fluff: Killed everything, went to sleep for no reason.
>New fluff: Betrayed the C'tan, feel asleep due to being left too weak to defeat Eldar.
fixed for greater factual a

>> No.17841701

>>17841597
>It's almost like they only ever played Dark Crusade and listened to some guys on /tg/
True dat. And I don't get it. Are anons like that actually Necron players who couldn't into their own fluff? Or are they pretending to be oldcron players to serve the higher goal of wardhate?

>> No.17841725

rolled 6, 11, 6, 18, 10, 2, 7, 11, 9, 7, 3, 14, 10, 15, 13, 11 = 153

>>17841701
Omnicidal robots just seem cooler, I think - and IIRC the Necrons did often show up and kill everything with two neurons to rub together - but other times they were more interested in farming people, perhaps depending on which of the C'tan they were working for. The Nightbringer does seem like it's interested in killing everything, while the Deceiver, being the massive troll he is, would be more interested in preserving at least some sentients, if only to bask in their suffering. I'm kinda torn on the oldcron-newcron thing myself.

>> No.17841729

>>17841725
fucking dice

>> No.17841738

>>17841725
Personally I like the newcrons, mostly because it's primary focus is not the C'tan, but still allows you to fluff your army as one of the rogue Tomb Worlds that worships them.

>> No.17841753

HEY tell me if Monolith is still great compared to the new other heavy supports

>> No.17841773

>>17841753
It's ok, though not as nearly unkillable as before.

>> No.17841789

>>17841773

Are melta and lance effective on monolith again?

whats its role now?

>> No.17841815

>>17841789

It's still capable of some shooting, and also deep striking and teleporting friendly units isn't that bad.

Even with it's huge immunities gone, AV14 all around is good protection.

>> No.17841821

>>17841789
Living Metal ignores shaken on 2+ and stunned on 4+, melta and lance work against it.

>> No.17841840

>>17841789
Its teleport ability has great utility, with no range restricions, allowing to shoot Particle whip and getting units from reserve at will.

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