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Greetings, fellow /tg/-goers!

THIS THREAD IS ABOUT 'ARD BOYZ.

More specifically, this thread is about helping me put together a list for the semifinals of 'Ard Boyz in approximately one month. I have several list ideas I would like to pitch you, and I would appreciate an honest comment and critique of them. I will add the lists in subsequent posts, but I'll give a summary of the lists here:

1. Vanilla Marines: Master of the Forge & Dreadnoughts
2. Vanilla Marines: Vulkan
3. Blood Angels: Descent of Angels
4. Blood Angels: Flesh Tearers & Dreadnoughts
5. Vanilla Marines: Drown Them In Plasma
6+. Whatever I come up with while this thread lives.

All of these lists are supposed to be 2500 points, so if I've screwed up the math, let me know.

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1. Vanilla Marines: Master of the Forge & Dreadnoughts

>HQ
Master of the Forge, 185pts
-Conversion Beamer, Thunderhammer, Bike

>ELITES
Ironclad, 190pts
-2 Heavy Flamers
+Drop Pod

Ironclad, 135pts
-Chainfist, ??

Techmarine, 50pts

Servitor, 10pts
-Note: Takes up no FO Slot, generally hangs with the Techmarine

>TROOPS
Tactical Marines 10, 260pts
-Melta, Lascannon
-Sergeant: Powerfist & Combi-flamer
+Razorback

Tactical Marines 10, 260pts
-Melta, Lascannon
-Sergeant: Powerfist & Combi-flamer
+Razorback

Tactical Marines 10, 260pts
-Melta, Lascannon
-Sergeant: Powerfist & Combi-flamer
+Razorback

Tactical Marines 10, 260pts
-Melta, Lascannon
-Sergeant: Powerfist & Combi-flamer
+Razorback

Scouts 10, 165pts
-Sniper Rifles, Missile Launcher
-Sergeant: Power Weapon, Sniper Rifle

Scouts 10, 175pts
-Combat Squad A: Sergeant with Powerfist & Shotgun, Shotguns
-Combat Squad B: Sniper Rifles, Missile Launcher

>FAST ATTACK
Land Speeder Storm, 60pts
-Heavy Flamer
+Carrying Scout Combat Squad A

Attack Bikes 2, 80pts

>HEAVY SUPPORT
Dreadnought, 125pts
-2 Twin-Linked Autocannons

Dreadnought, 125pts
-2 Twin-Linked Autocannons

Vindicator, 120pts
-Dozer Blade

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2. Vanilla Marines: Vulkan

>HQ
Vulkan He'stan, 190pts

Librarian, 140pts
-Terminator Armor, Storm Shield
-Powers: No idea.

>ELITES
Assault Terminators 5, 460pts
-Thunderhammers & Storm Shields
+Land Raider Crusader (with Multimelta)

Ironclad, 200pts
-2 Heavy Flamers
+Drop Pod (with Locator Beacon)

Ironclad, 190pts
-DCCW & Heavy Flamer, Seismic Hammer & Meltagun
+Drop Pod (with Locator Beacon)

>TROOPS
Tactical Marines 10, 240pts
-Flamer, Multimelta
-Sergeant: Powerfist & Combi-Flamer
+Drop Pod

Tactical Marines 10, 240pts
-Melta, Multimelta
-Sergeant: Powerfist
+Rhino (with Dozer Blade)

Tactical Marines 10, 235pts
-Melta, Multimelta
-Sergeant: Powerfist
+Rhino

Tactical Marines 10, 235pts
-Melta, Multimelta
-Sergeant: Powerfist
+Rhino

>FAST ATTACK
Land Speeder, 60pts
-2 Heavy Flamers

>HEAVY SUPPORT
Devastators 5, 155pts
-2 Multimeltas
+Rhino

Devastators 5, 155pts
-2 Multimeltas
+Rhino

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3. Blood Angels: Descent of Angels

>HQ's
Commander Dante, 225pts

Librarian, 125pts
-Jump Pack
-Powers: Shield of Sanguinus, Unleash Rage

>ELITES
Sanguinary Priests 3, 270pts
-3 Power Weapons, 3 Jump Packs

Furioso Librarian, 175pts
-Powers: Blood Lance, Wings of Sanguinus

>TROOPS
Sanguinary Guard 5, 250pts
-Powerfist & Infernus Pistol, 3 Infernus Pistols

Assault Marines 10, 235pts
-2 Meltas, Powerfist

Assault Marines 10, 230pts
-2 Meltas
-Sergeant: Power Weapon, Meltabombs

Assault Marines 10, 225pts
-2 Flamers
-Sergeant: Power Fist

Assault Marines 10, 220pts
-2 Flamers
-Sergeant: Lightning Claw, Meltabombs

>FAST ATTACK
Baal Predator, 150pts
-Heavy Bolter Sponsons, Dozer Blade

Baal Predator, 145pts
-Flamestorm Cannon, Heavy Flamer Sponsons, Dozer Blade

Baal Predator, 145pts
-Flamestorm Cannon, Heavy Flamer Sponsons, Dozer Blade

>HEAVY SUPPORT
Predator, 105pts
-Heavy Bolter Sponsons, Dozer Blade

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4. Blood Angels: Flesh Tearers & Dreadnoughts

>HQ
Gabriel Seth, 160pts

Librarian, 145pts
-Terminator Armor, Storm Shield
-Powers: Unleash Rage, Shield of Sanguinus

>ELITES
Sanguinary Priests 2, 140pts
-Both: Power Weapon & Meltabombs

Furioso Dreadnought, 170pts
-Frag Cannon, Heavy Flamer
+Drop Pod

Furioso Dreadnought Librarian, 175pts
-Powers: Wings of Sanguinus, The Blood Lance

>TROOPS
Assault 5, 150pts
-Melta, Power Weapon & Meltabombs
+Razorback

Assault 5, 155pts
-Melta, Power Fist
+Razorback

Assault 5, 145pts
-Flamer, Lightning Claw & Meltabombs
+Razorback

Death Company 10, 510pts
-Thunderhammer, 2 Plasma Pistols
+Land Raider Crusader

Death Company Dreadnought, 125pts
-Blood Talons

Death Company Dreadnought, 125pts
-Blood Talons

>FAST ATTACK
Vanguard Veterans 5, 230pts
-2 Storm Shields, Powerfist, Glaive Encarmine

>HEAVY SUPPORT
Predator, 140pts
-Autocannon with Lascannon Sponsons, Dozer Blade

Devastators 5, 130pts
-4 Missile Launchers

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5. Vanilla Marines: Drown Them In Plasma

>HQ
Master of the Forge, 120pts
-Conversion Beamer

Servitors 4, 115pts
-2 Plasma Cannons

Master of the Forge, 120pts
-Conversion Beamer

Servitors 4, 115pts
-2 Plasma Cannons

>ELITES
Techmarine, 50pts

Servitors 4, 115pts
-2 Plasma Cannons

Techmarine, 50pts

Servitors 4, 115pts
-2 Plasma Cannons

Techmarine, 50pts

Servitors 4, 115pts
-2 Plasma Cannons

>TROOPS
Tactical 10, 290pts
-Meltagun, Plasma Cannon
-Sergeant: Powerfist & Combi-Melta
+Razorback (with Lascannon & Twin-Linked Plasmagun)

Tactical 10, 290pts
-Meltagun, Plasma Cannon
-Sergeant: Powerfist & Combi-Melta
+Razorback (with Lascannon & Twin-Linked Plasmagun)

Tactical 10, 290pts
-Meltagun, Plasma Cannon
-Sergeant: Powerfist & Combi-Melta
+Razorback (with Lascannon & Twin-Linked Plasmagun)

Tactical 10, 290pts
-Meltagun, Plasma Cannon
-Sergeant: Powerfist & Combi-Melta
+Razorback (with Lascannon & Twin-Linked Plasmagun)

>HEAVY SUPPORT
Dreadnought, 125pts
-Missile Launcher, Plasma Cannon

Dreadnought, 125pts
-Missile Launcher, Plasma Cannon

Dreadnought, 125pts
-Missile Launcher, Plasma Cannon

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The last list is, obviously, a bit of a trollan' list, but it could also be really effective if my entire army doesn't Gets Hot! themselves to death.

>> No.15949651

Use one of the Nilla marine ones.

And unless I miss my mark, OP is from Fresno yes?

>> No.15949666

DEEP STRIKE SOME LANDRAIDERS!

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>>15949651
You do miss your mark. OP is East Coast.

>> No.15949711

are you perhaps talking about the martinsburg WV 'ard boyz tournament?

>> No.15949768

>>15949556
>Tactical Marines 10, 260pts
>-Melta, Lascannon
>-Sergeant: Powerfist & Combi-flamer
>+Razorback

You see the problem here right?

Lets just go through that again:-

>Tactical Marines
>10 of them
>In a Razorback

Guessing you've typo'd Rhino bro...

Razorbacks have a capacity of 6

>> No.15949803

>>15949768
OH WAIT, BUT BRO! BRO! AWESOME IDEA FOR YOU

Right, we take one of those troop choices and get rid of it, and instead take 3 more Razorbacks. Split the units into combat squads and have 3 units of 10 tactical marines in 6 razorbacks. Sexy stuff

>> No.15949839

>>15949803
Pretty sure you can't just take dedicated transports without having an associated troop choice. Unless you were feeling like REALLY pushing the rules, and taking razorbacks for your scout squads and other units, then putting the combat squads in there transports...

>> No.15949841

>>15949803

but you cant have 2 dedicated transports for 1 troop choice.

>> No.15949857

What is 'Ard Boys again? Forgive my stupidity, I've honestly never heard anything about it. Are there prizes?

>> No.15949888

>>15949857
It's yet another 40k tourney, but IIRC, there are no scores for force comp. As a result, 'Ard Boyz is popularly known as that one tourney where bringing cheese lists is not only expected, but ENCOURAGED.

>> No.15949907

>>15949857
I think you get a free army of the equivilant value to the one you just won with if you won.

>>15949841
Ah... I'd like to know if this has been explicitly written somewhere, before I rush out to buy $100 worth of razorbacks. Having your troop choices split into combat squads in razorbacks, each with there own little independant character sidekick sounds kinda fun.

Would work well with my Blood Ravens army idea

>> No.15949968

>>15949907
I'm pretty sure there's a rule against multiple dedicated transports for a single unit. I have NEVER seen a rules debate about that issue or any cheater trying to get away with it. However, you can't combat squad a SM squad and then buy two dedicated transports for them. Combat squadding only takes place during deployment. Though you can combat squad them and have one of the squads just pile into a non-dedicated transport during your first move phase.

>> No.15950022

No, you can't run Razorbacks without squads to purchase them, and no, you can't buy two Razorbacks per unit.

Not knowing shit like that means you will get rofflestomped at the Semis, no offense--go for the fun of playing, do not expect to win. Otherwise you will be severely disappointed.

The prize for winning the Semis is literally thousands of dollars worth of models. If you haven't been before (which I'm guessing you haven't) you can't really imagine the shit that goes down at the Semis; it's not like any other tournament.

Of the lists you posted, the Vulkan list is the best concept, but it's being poorly executed--Ironclad Dreads and normal Devastators are both poor choices for that sort of army, but if these are your options it's what I'd reccommend. The DoA army isn't super bad either.

>> No.15950045

>>15949907
It's right in the codex entry.

"Dedicated Transport: May select a Rhino or a Razorback."

'A' is singluar. You can have a, ie, a single, Rhino. Or a, again singular, Razorback. If you wanted to get really anal and rules-lawyery, you might be able to claim that they can take a Drop Pod in addition to their Rhino or Razorback.

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>>15949768
>Guessing you've typo'd Rhino bro...

Combat Squads, bro. On deployment, I split that squad in half. The short-range half goes in the Razor to rush for the front lines, while the long-range half stays in the back to hunt tanks and such.

>>15950022
>Not knowing shit like that means you will get rofflestomped at the Semis
Good thing I do know shit like that, then.

If not Ironclads (2 twin-linked face-raping weapons coming out of a Drop Pod on Turn 1) or Devastators (relatively cheap multimeltas that can get to half-court quickly in the Rhinos and shoot from inside until it's broken), what would you suggest in a Vulkan list?

Unfortunately, I do not have the option to run more than 3 Bikes (of any kind) or more than 1 Land Speeder at this time.

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Bumping my thread, doo-dee-doo.

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Did I do it right? 2500 points, 281 models. Yeah IG could do it better, but...

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>>15950447
Not bad, but you could get more models by using Ymargl Genestealers in the place of the Zoanthropes. Not certain how the points would compare, though.

>> No.15951249

>>15950711
What that picture SHOULD say is "Epic. Sorry we fucked it up for everyone."

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